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Now let's dive into today's episode.

I like to welcome back to the show returning champion Marissa Eliza Bell.

How you doing?

Say, how are you?

I'm so happy to be here in the studio in Austin.

Yes, thank you so much for driving down.

Yeah, you drove down.

It was a self journey experience.

Yes, well, I'm so happy to have you here.

We've gone off to a late start because all we did was just chat in the other room for like forty five minutes.

So like so I was like, oh, we gotta get going.

Our last conversation people absolutely adored.

They love your energy, they love your authenticity, and they use that as a quotations.

You were joking about that because people think, like, well, how else am I supposed to be?

If I'm not authentic, should it be fake?

I don't get how like you're not supposed to be any other way?

Like, I really don't like what you see out there before we start here.

Yeah, same exact person, same exactly.

Exactly the person I just spent forty five minutes with out there as the same person who's sitting in front of me right now, and vice versa.

I try to be people came to people came to the Ascension conference.

Literally, they're like, I just wanted to see if Alex was real and like.

Like like a cardboard cutout, like.

Like like if I was real in the sense of like, is he really the person that I see on the show?

I'm like absolutely, like, I'm did you see another version of me out there?

I did, actually a little bit.

You're actually even more funny and more animated, not as serious like sometimes, but I think you're I even like, I even like what I've seen even more.

Yeah, because well, I usually this is just an instinctual thing.

When I interview people, I I match their energy, right, So when I had Gurunath here from India, I'm not cracking a whole lot of jokes because it's a very serious, powerful, you know, centered man and his message is very you know, booming, and yeah, he does tell jokes here and there, but it's not that energy with you.

I have a feeling it's gonna be a little different.

Well, let's make it that energy.

Absolutely, because life is serious enough.

I tell people, like the world my whole job is serious, like you need humor is healing, Laughter is healing, and so like you can't take yourself too serious.

Ab absolutely, So we are so normally like I usually have my iPad here with questions on anything, but I decided to go wow, raw dog, Yeah, I think just a little raw.

Actually, we're just gonna just enjoy this converse.

I do it every once in a while just to see where it goes.

And you have a whole lot of stuff to talk about.

But before we get going, can you tell everybody who didn't see the first episode, which was a big hit, thank you who you are and what you do just a quick like sixty seconds.

Yes.

So I'm Rose Eliza pal I am.

I'm a master intuitive channel and also a transformational mentor as well.

So I do a lot of work with intuition, but also a lot of work with somatic healing.

So I combine science now and spirituality so people can actually be free of their core emotional wounds and so they can actually step into their purpose because that's what the world needs right now.

So that's what we help people to do.

What I love about you and the way that you do what you do is it's a no BS East Coast vibe.

It's just like, I'm like, stop it.

Did you ever see that?

Oh god?

This is a great Saturday.

In a live skit from years ago with Bob Newheart back back in the day, it's a great when he's playing a therapist and this woman comes in and she's like, doctor, thank you so much for seeing me, and he's the dog he's sitting there.

He's like, oh's no problem.

The problem like it just takes months to get in here, and you know, they say you're the best.

He's like, well, thank you, thank you.

So saying that, she's like, oh, go ahead, tell me what's wrong, and she just starts babbling about her life and things like that, but not in like serious stuff like oh BS kind of stuff.

Yeah, And he's like, okay, yeah, it's good, good, good good.

He goes all right, I'm gonna give you a therapy here.

Right, this is going to change your life.

Right.

I need you to take a pen read this down.

Okay, stop it just jump just stop it, just stop, just stop it.

And it's the funniest I send it to all my therapists friends, because that's what a therapist would want to say to people.

Yeah, just stop it, And sometimes I do, and sometimes when you yell at them, sometimes it does.

I had to like pull it back.

I have some new people I'm working with that I have people that have been with me a long time, and then I'm like, oh, I can't be talking to them the same way I talk to the people that know me, because they say, I love your authenticity until that comes out, like you know, until it comes out.

Oh yeah, everyone loves the authenticity until it's aimed at them exactly.

Yeah, everyone wants to go ahead, but it's not a love.

It's not a love exactly.

And you know what, that's the thing I think is missing in today's world, especially in the spiritual space, is that people kind of dance around problems and the real healing happens when you go at it like you go head on.

And that's what you need to do, the shadow work, the deep work, the you know, I got to figure this stuff out kind of thing, as opposed to kind of dancing around it.

And by the dancing around it, then you say that you're healing or you're saying that you're getting over things, but the core problem is still there.

That's right.

No matter how many retreats you go, no matter how many books you read, you got to actually do the hard work and every once in a while you need And that's like some of the gurus on the wall who lived in the twentieth century, they no, no joke, They just look at you and like stop it.

Like they go, they go to the core of what your problem is.

And a lot of people, especially in today's world, can't handle that.

They're like what, like, what do you mean I have to do the work.

I'm like, can't I just wake up enlightened?

Like no, No, that's not the way it works.

Intellectual knowledge is not going to fix it.

No.

And we have so much information coming at us right now right And I talked about this on another podcast I was on a few months back, and I talked about an information crash coming where it's just where the darker energies are coming from right now, is they're trying to pull us in through the technology portal, trying to pull us down to where people are just in a trance, trying to get dopamine.

Just like in social media, social media, and if you're sitting on site, I'm going to just be upfront with that.

I don't care because I'm just going to say it.

That's right.

Love you.

So if you're sitting there on videos and just talking about what you don't like in the world and what you don't like about people, like you're not doing the job you're supposed to be doing, which is making an impact because that's what the world needs right now.

So if your whole time is spent watching the news, and I mean you have to be informed, but watching the news, commenting on socials, doom scrolling and writing negativity, like you're not helping the world at all.

There was a story you told me outside about someone who commented on something that yes, do you mind telling that story because I thought it was so beautiful what your partner said and how he dealt with it.

Yeah.

So you know, we we obviously have a few people that are you know, actually read our emails of people, and we have great people.

I'm really lucky've been doing this a really long time.

I have great people.

But you know, sometimes you just have somebody who is decides that they're in pain, which is where it comes from, and they need to like let it out, they need to just project it onto somebody because they're in pain.

Usually it's because somebody in this industry screwed them over fair enough, right, so they feel like they've been wronged.

And now everybody in the industry is the same way.

We're all frauds everybody, right.

But I said this, let me get back to that.

But I said this to somebody on a thread somewhere.

I was like, don't you realize that there's frauds everywhere, like every industry, like real estate, you have a real estate fraud.

You've got a car, you know, finance, you know, your priest whatever.

And it's like, why are we so focused on people in this industry?

Right?

But usually it's because they're upset because they've been scammed or taken over.

But then they think everyone's like that, which I get, you know what I mean.

So this was a person that wasn't even a client, wasn't even somebody that bought a product, you know, not in my programs or anything, just decided they want to just email the office and just talk about, like just say a bunch of stuff right about how they don't you know, like it whatever.

I don't.

I'm not going to get into it.

We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor, and now back to the show.

But luckily I have people on my staff that were just not like, oh, we're just gonna ignore you or we're just going to make it fluffy.

No.

He went in and was like, can you just let me know, like why you felt it was necessary to like decide to email us and say this like, and they actually had a dialogue.

He actually went down.

They had a dialogue till they got to the other side and and parted ways amicably, and she said at the very end, yeah, I mean it wasn't like a like a full on apology, you know, you know, but like she had said, I forget exactly what I think if.

I remember correctly, it's like, well, no, no one's ever I've never had any success in my life, so why should you or something along those lines.

Yeah, I did something along those like the why nothing every good happened to me?

Exactly?

Was it nothing ever gonna happen to me?

So why should you be happy?

It wasn't about saying it me directly being happy.

It was just kind of like, well she had something happened to her with a healer or something and felt like she paid all this money and I don't.

I don't know exactly because I didn't.

I wasn't the one responding to the emails.

But she's just like, why should I be happy?

Because nothing ever good happened and this stuff is all bs and you.

Know, but I got coured into It's like if you just keep asking the word why, why, eventually you'll get to.

The Yeah, we don't.

We're not like customers, like yet, we're great to our customers therapists, but like, if you want to be rude to our staff, like you're not, you want you want, nobody's gonna be me India, But like I allow them to have dialogue like why like why, yeah, why why do you feel it necessary to spend your time to reach out and talk?

Like I've said the same thing.

I'm like, there's a lot of things I disagree with in this world, right, And I don't go to the those channels or those emails or those websites or watch that content and then go in and go you know what, mother.

Like it's nice, I don't have the tech, don't go there.

I just don't go there.

Just don't go there.

It's just don't watch, just don't go there, exactly.

It's it's fascinating.

I have this belief like, because I'm a business owner, I'm really into supporting small business and people being entrepreneurs because I've been for almost thirty years.

Right, So even if I get really bad service, or even if something really like I believe wrong happens, like I will not go online and batch that business because I support small business.

I will go to them directly.

But when people say they support small business or there are business owners and then go on and try to like fluff it around and like, oh, I'm so nice and I'm just writing comments.

Oh, by the way, let me write these comments about a business.

It's just like you're not really supporting businesses.

You know, do you know what I'm saying.

I get it.

I know exactly those sayings.

Yeah.

One thing from our last conversation that you know I came out of our last comversation is when we were talking, Uh, you know, I told you, like, you know, I don't ask I generally don't ask for any readings.

You know that you did.

No, But wait, wait, there's a reason I generally don't because I have.

I have a lot of psychic friends, psychic Franks, and psychic friends network.

There's this lady called Miss Cleo.

But do you remember, of course I remember its Cleo.

Yeah.

Did you ever call the one?

I never called Miss Cleo.

I might have called some other ones, but I never called them Miss clear.

This is years.

I mean, when I was in my twenties or.

I can't imagine you call them the one hundred psychic hotline.

I might have.

I bet you did that.

I might have one point or another to put the quarter in and you're like, well, at that time in my twenties, I was so obsessed about the future, was terrified and I just wanted to know when this was going to happen, when that was going to happen, and it was almost an addiction and needed to find out constantly.

I was always in fear, where now I'm not, I'm at all in fear of the future.

And the funny thing is now I have access to some of the greatest psychic and channelers in the world.

I could call at any time, I go, can you just read me?

And they would do it for me.

But I never I never do I never called them.

It was kind of like when I started my first my first podcast.

You when I first my first podcast was all about filmmakers.

I'm talking Oscar winners and directors and actors.

And then I get to know these people and I have access to them.

I never once called hey can you connect me to Spielberg?

Or hey, can you can you pitch me?

And I just didn't take advantage of it because I wasn't in that place.

Ten years earlier I would have been.

I would have been hounding them, I'm like, hey can you I would have been this desperation.

Because of the control.

You had such a feeling of being out of control inside correct.

You just wanted some relief of knowing what's coming exactly.

So that is a danger of psychic mediums and channelers and spiritual leaders in general, when the person gets obsessed or gets really addicted to needing to know well that you're now giving your power to something out side of yourself.

You should be looking within.

Now.

There are moments you absolutely need teachers, You absolutely need people to help you guide you along the way, and people can kind of show you, hey, this is what I've learned, or read this book, or take this course or something like that.

That's different because you're on your journey to go inside and understand these things.

But if you're constantly giving your power away, this is a problem you should look into.

Would you agree as a psychic medium.

Well, that's why I stopped for three years, right, because I realized it wasn't helping people to really really stop the patterning that was going on.

You told me that in the last one.

So the reason why I was going to I brought up the last one is because when you when I started, when we started, like, I'm not gonna ask you anything.

Yeah, you like what you started with that, You're like, I just want to tell I'm like, it's okay if you do, just let me know.

You're like, no, no, no, no.

No, I just don't.

But then we had this kind of report going on, and you were talking so much about what you like your time on morning radio, and you were like under the gun all the time, and you were like, really this fast, accurate psychic.

I'm like, well, I mean, let's have some fun, then let's see what you can do.

I mean, you're putting it out there and I've yet to I mean, I know a lot of psychics your ability is so fast and so accurate.

It was it was kind of fat.

It was kind of weird how fast and accurate, because you were like it was like a machine gun.

It's like a gatlin gun of information, like with this and this and this and this and this and this and this.

I haven't looked at our interview since we did it, so I don't remember the exact detail, but I remember the feeling.

I'm like, son of a how does she like Jesus?

And it's not one thing was right.

It was like bomomomoooo bom bom bom boom, and it was like really interesting to see.

I was like, wow, this is this is so much fun.

It was so much fun.

So it was it was really fascinating.

So you stopped for three years for a reason, right, you stopped doing readings.

Yeah, I stopped doing mediumship.

And I love how your grandfa A lot of people had emailed in actually about your grandfather's personality and how.

They love people.

People love love that.

Yeah, Yeah, you're the one that was when Grandpa showed up and he's like, hey, you know what, I'm tired of Grandma always taking up to eat.

I want some action, right, he came in and he.

Talked about the most random things.

Yeah, like is it my underwear yet?

And you're like, the way you did, I think.

My go tea?

He doesn't like to go tea because he was a mustache guy.

And he's like he was a Bobbys.

Your dollar he was giving you like and you're like, oh, yeah, he was real weird with his money.

He was.

He was very weird with his money.

And he said to me, he said to me that he's like, yeah, he's not like your underwear because he was a boxers guy.

I'm like, what what is happening right now?

Has happeness?

This is what happened.

People people did love my like the grandfather of Grandpa.

Yeah, grand because this whole personality came through, like that's how it is.

And Grandma was there, but she's just like, yeah, she just let him go.

She's like give it to him, because she's always the one that whenever a medium does like do a reading on me on the air, Grandma's usually the one that shows up and and my animals show up or something along those lines.

Those are the ones that usually are always there.

I assume she's here with me.

We're not I'm not gonna ask you, but of course I will later.

I'm joking but maybe not.

But I'm just not gonna believe, like, I'll just I'll just wait.

I'm just gonna like he could do anything.

It's just so much fun with you.

I just like, like, I love your energy so much.

So yeah, so that was a really really interesting experience for me.

So you stopped, Well.

I want to ask you something real quick.

Okay, let's let's do it.

Yeah, let's do it.

So sometimes I don't know if you wrote down.

Sometimes a lot of the details that come in you find out like maybe two weeks later, a month later.

Yeah, So did anything Actually, I know there were some things that were edited.

Help they got a little too personal.

But did some of those things make sense to you?

Yeah?

Yeah, absolutely, Yeah, absolutely.

I was texting you back and forth for a little while.

I don't think we talked about that.

Now you're talking about other stuff.

Yeah, yeah, it was.

It was yeah.

Because again, and people don't understand this about psychics.

They expect everything to be accurate right away, and sometimes they'll say something like do you know of a is there's horse, there's a horse.

There's a horse, and you're like, what is there's no horses, and then three weeks later a horse somewhere comes into play, like, oh my god, my dog was run over by a horse.

Like and all of a sudden that horse thing, dog.

Was run over by a horse.

I hate the first thing I thought of that would be a great it's dark validation.

It would not so much for the dog.

But the dog was run over by a horse.

I see a horse all the time.

There's a horse.

There's some something's happening on a horse.

I can't see anything else but the horse.

And you're like, I don't even have a horse.

And then all of a sudden, three weeks later, your dog is running over.

It's a very graphic way of looking at it.

But just in the wild West, it's just obviously obviously.

I had somebody write something in their journal.

Nine years later, they would they would come to me once a year, nine years later.

It happened years.

It's interesting, is it, Because that's the thing that people don't get, is like you're you're just getting impressions of things that are coming, and you really don't know when.

Sometimes the timing.

Is off, will be right back after a word from our sponsor and now back to the show.

But sometimes it's just like they the person getting the reading just doesn't get it at the moment until like I had to read.

I had a reading once that I was It floored me.

It was I won't say who it was, but he was on the show and he gave me a live reading and we're like, yeah, this will be fine.

Let's do with a live reading or something like that.

And so I think the first one I did on air and he told me stuff that three people on the planet knew me, my wife and my mom, and my mom had just told me the.

Story two weeks earlier, and he.

Said this, and it was it had to do with my my my relatives and it was a story.

I'm like what.

And I called my mom like right out after I hung up with them, I was like, you won't believe what this person just said, and she's like, are you kidding me?

And then when the episode came out, she's like, I can't believe it.

But if he would have done that two weeks before, I would have been like, I don't know what you're talking about, right, but that but the truth is there.

So it's just it's all relative like, sometimes the information is so advanced that you won't know how it means to you.

You're like, is there a Bob in your room?

Is there a Bob?

Like, I don't know a Bob.

Then you talk to your mom a week later like, oh yeah, uncle William.

I'm like, SAME's William.

His name's William, my bob.

So yeah, you see what I mean.

It's I call it psychic amnesia.

When people they come in they have all the jewelry stuff in there in their genes, they have the family photo, they have because they are already tunnel vision on what they want to hear, what spirit needs to tell them, what's going to come through.

And I'm like, if you just let it all go, magic's going to happen.

You know.

Plus, psychic stuff is very a AMFM station.

Psychic stuff is very different the mediumship stuff.

It's a whole different experience.

So if you're getting psychic reading or intuitive channel session, that's a whole different frequency than somebody coming through on the other side.

Very different experience.

But when you're getting psychic information, where are you getting it from.

If it's not from spirit, this is from.

The collective and from the Earth plane and from the energies that are going on and.

Your spirit guides and your higher self and those kind of things.

And your life map pretty much got it.

And then the medium is like Uncle Bob.

That's like you're sitting down and you're receiving energy.

So it's more like instead of speaking from a stage, you're in the audience and you're receiving.

So I could be sitting here talking to you and you think I'm talking to you, but really I'm really listening.

So it's like a reverse channel versus a forward channel.

I call it the AMFM station, so I could switch back and forth.

That Not all people that do psychic work are doing mediumship work.

It's a very different distinction.

And it's going to be a medium without being a psychic.

Well, you have to receive all sorts of psychic information, yes, but it's very different in terms of even how you would experience it.

Because when Grandpa came through, you're almost experiencing him his personality.

He's there.

I feel like I'm meeting him.

But with the other stuff, it's more like pure informational stuff that's between us on the earthplane.

My energy is going forward, where with the mediumhip it's going in reverse.

So it's a very different process.

Very different energy.

Well, even for me to experience it, I have to do a totally like ye won't You won't know that I'm doing it, but I'm actually tuning into a different frequency completely and the actual method is different.

Interesting.

Okay, so what they tell us they already have a have a full view of what's going on where the psychic stuff is.

It's more like the decisions you're making.

Then I could see kind of what's on that highway, what exit you're going off?

If you change direction, we got to look into a different lane, which I can.

And that's the thing about psychic right, is that you have free will.

Right, we have certain destiny.

We need to hit on this earth with our So I call.

A mild miker my mile markers on your path.

Yeah, but that's what the that's why I brought so much about the somatic healing work last time, is because you really have a choice of what type of experience you're having here in the world if you do the work you need to do.

It's not fun.

People think they're doing the work and they're like, you know, well, I've read all these books and I've done all this reiki and I've done gone to these spas and these retreats.

I'm like, well, is your life changing?

Well no, I'm still repeating these patterns.

Well then then you're not doing work.

Like great job.

More information, especially now is not going to get you anywhere, Like just stop, just stop, just stop stop it, Stop reading the books, stop listening.

Then the more you put on there, the more you put on the plate, the more overwhelmed you're going to get.

Your nervous system is going to get it.

And I get I mean for me, like, I mean, obviously I do a show like this and I'm putting a lot of information out there, and there are moments in your path that you do need to kind of hear ideas and hear your stories and lead you down certain paths.

But when it becomes so much that you're not doing any of the way, Like if it's just edutainment and you're just kind of just watching it and just letting it wash over you, you're not doing anything with it.

Because we you know, this conversation will probably be a couple of nuggets of gold out there that'll be thrown out, but that's gonna cost work.

Yeah, are you going to apply it?

Are you gonna?

Actually, so the perfect first nugget is like, you gotta do the work.

That's but most people don't want to do because one there either don't want to do it.

Secondly, they're terrified of doing it because doing the work means you're going to have to go in and dig up all the crap, and all the things that you've been hiding, and things you don't even know are hiding will start to come to surface.

That's why ayahuasca and shadow work or dark medicine or dark retreats.

When you just sit in a room for a dark room for six days.

That sounds traumatizing.

It is, But when you're when you have nothing else to see but yourself and you have no togo, your brain just I mean it breaks down because now you're forced you would like this, You're forced to look at yourself in the mirror, and it's it's very, very impact.

And that's why like ayahuasca and psilocybin, these kind of things they force you, you know, that take you on a ride.

I mean, I've never done either of them, but I can imagine it's a yogi.

Once who's on the show said this about that about psychedelics.

He's like, well, when you take a psychedelics like taking a sledgehammer to the wall to get a window, to get a hold to see the other side.

When you meditate is like placing a window in it.

I thought that was so beautiful.

One's a lot longer, a lot more work, right, but you'll be ready for it.

It's a slow ramp up as opposed to a yeah, pludge in the face.

Or we could just do the middle ground.

Which is which is what I do.

Okay, tell me, Yeah, I talked about the last eleven years, like I do the channel transmissions.

And you're not a trans channel, right, are you transchannel?

No?

I don't do trans channeling.

No, you just channel.

Yeah.

I get I get the information about humanity, where we are, what's going on, and what came to me was very interesting in the past month about like where the earth is going, so like we're kind of screwed.

So I'll just put it out there right all right, I don't like whatever, Like I'm not going to be all like woo woo like in the clouds because it's not where we're at.

Even light workers now are being called to ground, right, Yes, don't be like you want to.

It's not time to go to a regie healing practice.

It's not time to go further out into the ethernet, the ether whatever.

It's time to come back home because the Earth is in trouble.

So this isn't about like your personal dreams and goals anymore.

It's about like the Earth is in trouble.

Humanity is in trouble, and the Earth is plummeting in frequency and discann We're going further and further down in disconnection.

Right, So a lot of people think there's a divide here, but really the divide is in frequency.

Right.

So right, So ten eleven, twelve years ago, the fear grids here and people are here that are elevating.

They're doing the work, they're doing the psychic mediumship work like what I was doing, and we could affect people here at the in the grid.

Right now, the fear grid is down here, right, people, people, you can't you can't even get to these people anymore because they're so spiral down into.

The grid frequency.

Yes, So that's where the Earth is going.

And for the last I call it the elevation years, the past eleven years, it was a period of time were highly sensitive people that were born highly sensitive and who had trauma.

This could be big ta, little ta traumas.

In the last eleven years, they have been trying to move through their patterns.

They've been trying to do everything to move through their patterns.

They've done personal development work, They've done it all, and so it was getting them ready for where we are now.

And I wondered, like, why do the universe want me to stop doing psychic mediumship work.

Stop it for three years, go on a sabbatical, go do the personal somatic expansion work.

And now I'm doing a lot more science, like with the vegus nerve work and helping people heal the trauma, all that stuff.

I knew there was a third part to it, and I'm like, it wasn't revealed, but it just was revealed about a month ago.

Why why we had to do this.

The reason we have to do this is because we have to go back through our bodies, through the chakras in reverse, move through all those layers of trauma to get the light body and the pillar of light body activated again, ground it to the Earth grid, and then then we could start back our work, the work that we're here for the purpose work.

Right, we need as many of those light pillars on the earth then to come back on.

We need all because they're going to be the leaders of consciousness.

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Right.

So my job is to get the people that are drawn to come and do this work, to help them step into their purpose by reactivating their somatic body into the like grid.

I know, it's like such a more advanced thing that I'm talking about.

We need as many of those pillars of light activated as possible to start to bring the earth back on.

Right.

It's the more people awaken, the better it is for everybody.

So my job is to bring leaders back into leadership.

But if they keep going back out there, I can't.

They need to come back home through the body.

That's interesting.

The one thing I've heard actually, this has been coming up again and again in conversations off airon on.

It's about grounding.

Yeah, the grounding of the energy.

The grounding of your energy is so important, especially on a spiritual standpoint, is to ground yourself because if you don't ground yourself, you're kind of this like loosey goosey thing energetically and like I ground myself with ground.

On a physical standpoint, I ground myself all the time.

I sleep with the grounding matt and oh yeah, and it helps.

It does so much, Yeah, so so much.

I gotta teach you some exercises after this.

Okay, I will teach me to Yeah, but you'll want to go to bed so well.

I mean I literally if you could see it right there on the floor and the other set I have, there's a right there on the floor, there's a grounding strap.

So I usually am grounded as much as I can when I'm working and stuff like that, and it's helped dramatically.

It helps with inflammation and all that kind of stuff.

But I never really thought about it on a spiritual standpoint.

And on a spiritual standpoint, I was talking to a guru the other day and they were talking about the importance of your energy and connecting to mother Earth and because it will stabilize it just like putting roots down.

Is that what you're kind of talking about.

It's more if I'm going to get back to my impact and purpose, I'm right now when the earth is where it is, like, my job is to help raise consciousness.

It's not about me given or reading anymore.

It's not about me connecting to the other side to give people hope.

Like we all know that that exists now, like we've already been through that period of the past eleven years.

My job is to get people back home in the body, because the body actually has the DNA in it, which holds our mission of why we chose this body to complete the mission.

But we got to come home, and so I have to take people down from up here because most people live up here, right, they're living in the mental space.

Sure, and I lived out of there for most of my career because I was uncomfortable coming back home, right.

So it' stop fair for a second.

So yeah, most people are living in their mental space.

When you say you're out of here, that means you're basically in the full woo if you will, kind of like are you like spiritually you're out there, you're like constantly searching for things outside or you know, reading too many books or getting to like is what do you mean about ouciated?

Disconnected?

Ah?

Yeah, just completely checked out to where like you're just not like you're not even you're not here.

You're not even mental.

It's like, now you're not even the mental.

Most people that have to do my work, we're comfortable not being in the body, right.

That's like a of course, of course, with my history and where I came from and everything else, of course I'm going to be more comfortable and more talented out of the body.

But that's not going to serve where the Earth's going right now, So all light workers right now are being called to come home so that we can we can get ourselves back down in the body, activate the whole light pillar grid, turn on the light, and then help others to turn on their light, because that's the only way that the universe is going to raise and contraction.

What do you mean by the light pillar grid?

Is that you means your chakras in general?

Leader?

Yes?

So can I talk about your energy?

Why not?

Okay?

All right?

So remember I told you you're stuck like right here, right, So what I would do, like if we actually went back down, It's like taking a jackhammer and going through those layers.

It's like if you if you have a paved road from the eighteen hundreds and you're trying to fix a pipe that's down there, right, you have to go through the layers of like pavement.

Sure, right, So some people are like here and they're like, I've let go of you know, they'll tell me I have let it go the people that hurt me in my life.

I'm like, well, your body hasn't.

Your body hasn't let it go.

The energy is still there.

So your full purpose cannot be realized until we take you down the chakras jackhammer all those layers all the way down and light up that channel, right, the whole pillar of light, because that holds the DNA, it holds the mission, holds your complete purpose.

We did that work with you, right, you would be doing something a little bit different, which is well, we have to see that's your journey.

Well, I mean I'm going to keep that.

This is obviously where I'm supposed to be.

But like it would, it would expand.

And so you being now I'm stuck here, correct, And so that means that there's energy here that I am not your.

Diaphragm, yes, and stomach.

Yeah, it's there's energy there that I'm not letting go.

Well, you're not deciding, of course, you you would let it go.

If you could decide to let it go.

A lot of people think because they've like, oh I've forgiven that person or I've let it go, right, But their body hasn't.

They just kind of checked out from it.

Do you know what I'm saying?

They really haven't.

We don't actually process things into like if you're if you go to like talk to your friend about a problem, it's not really going to solve the problem.

It helps to relieve some of that stuff, but we actually have to solve it through the body and how it can't mentally process that.

Those are the sematics.

That's where the science comes in.

Okay, So how do you like?

Okay, so give me an use me as an example.

How would I break through?

Yeah, I would give you a series of sematic exercises to do, like one exercise in intensity.

We would we would raise that intensity every month, right, and so I would say, here, do this for thirty days.

We would start you doing that sematic work sixty seconds a day.

But I have to know what state you live in.

It everybody's an individual, right, So I work with you and I'd say just do this for thirty days, and you would see things would just start happening.

Yeah, You're it's almost like Intuition doesn't work in a vacuum, so people think intuition is static, like, oh, I have a decision to make, I need to tune into my intuition.

Right, Intuition really is meant to be in motion, so as you're taking steps forward and moving toward your purpose, intuition consistently aligns as you continue to move forward.

Don't if you're just sitting there, it doesn't come in.

Well, it can, but it's it's not like getting the answer Like people I've talked to a lot of people, Well, I don't know what my purpose is.

Well if I told you what it was, I guarantee you because your inner capacity is so limited that you wouldn't even be able to fathom what I'm saying.

Like, your true purpose is so much more than you even could even think of right now, you're talking about everyone, everybody, So it's like for somebody who hasn't ever really broken through some of this stuff, and I'm like, oh, your purpose psychically is to be this big speaker on a stage, And they're like, I'm sitting home with four kids doing laudery every day, Like what are you talking about?

Like they can't even fathom you know.

So it's kind of like you can get the information, but stepping into the purpose, stepping into it, taking the action is where you need the somatic work well.

Because again we'll use me as an example.

When I was I was told that I have to do this work, open up a spiritual podcast, and it's kind of craziness.

I was just like, no, you're out of your mind, you know.

I don't know.

It was my spiritual teacher told me to do it.

You're crazy, and she's like, no, you have to do it, and this is your mission.

And then she told me about a mission, and I'm like, what are you talking about, right, filmmaker.

I'm like, no, one's going to listen to me, right.

And then I did it and we went down the path.

And then three years later, we have a million subscribers and I'm like, what is happening?

And how did that happen?

Did it happen static or did it happen in motion?

Oh?

No, it's kind of well, this is this is what happened.

I had the show open for about four or five months, then I shut it down for three months, and a lot of people don't know this.

Early on I shut it down.

I was terrified because I didn't want to talk to weirdos like yourself.

So I mean, this is insane, but.

You're not a weirdo, right but no, no, no, no, no, no no no.

I love your alpha.

By the way, today, thank you.

It looks great.

This is a traditional guaya Veda.

It's a Cuban share from Little Havana in Miami.

I just didn't my other show.

Do you feel like the energy?

I feel like you put it on today and you were like the energy because you were you were going to pick out another one.

I picked out another one.

I got it from the dry cleaners, was my normal shirt, and people always like, why do you like because I don't want to think about stuff, So I just just put the same stuff on all the way and I and I was like, yeah, you know what, this didn't something happened in the directly and I didn't look exactly the way I wanted it.

I was like, you know, I kind of like this one.

This is a little bit more fun and it has a little bit more of a different energy.

But I appreciate the comment.

Thank you so much.

Yes, but I feel I feel like you changed the shirt I did.

Yeah, I know, I did I changed.

I went back.

I went to this because this is this.

I feel like this is a representation of like you're my Cuban incited, excited energy.

Yeah yeah, no, I literally I talked to my wife.

I'm like, did I get this in Miami?

So yeah, you got this in Miami when we were there last night.

Yeah, it's a little quia Veda.

So for all the Latinos in the in the crowded show, we'll get a few comments they're like, oh, Cubans, this is a traditional Cuban shirt, and I can tell you all sorts of stories about pockets and stuff.

It's I learned.

No, No, it's okay, it's fine.

What were we talking about before the.

We're talking about intuition, emotion, okay, and how like you had to start on the path to the podcast to get to where you are three years later.

So I stopped it.

So I did like one a week, maybe one every two weeks, and then I do it to once a month.

And if anyone knows the kind of content I put out, you know, I wasn't all in Okay, Well, I don't know.

I know I usually did.

At my peak, I was doing four to five episodes a week.

I don't know how you do it.

I didn't know, so but I stopped.

And then my teacher told me, hey, you gotta, you know, Pooper, get off the pot.

And so did that.

She literally did that.

And because this has to get done and if you don't do it, someone else is going to.

I was like, all right, I guess I gotta do it.

And then I took a leap of faith.

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It's a very important part.

It was a very pivotal moment in my life because I decided to take a leap of faith and just trust that God was going to take me.

You verse was going to take me on a ride and protect my family, protect me because all of my money was being made in my other shows.

Right, and talking to weirdos like yourself, Yes, could threaten that filmmaking world that I was coming from, because Hollywood, you don't do this kind of stuff, as wool as they all are.

You can't talk about God.

You can't talk about God in Hollywood.

Like it's very difficult, I know.

But if you say Jesus God, you're done.

You're done.

You just can't.

It's weird.

It's very weird.

Okay, So then I went all in and then then YadA, YadA, YadA, a million subscribers later.

But it was just this emotion was like boom boom, boom.

Boom, and you had to align as you went along, and you had to.

You couldn't have sat there like static in with no motion and have projected what this is today by sitting there and being like, I'm not going to start until I get the perfect answer or the perfect intuition about what to do.

Like you just had to go.

But you know it's fun, but you know it's funny.

That's exactly what I did in my making career for most of my film making career.

Yeah, because I would say there, I'm like, I need this actor.

If I can't get this actor, I can't make the movie.

I need seven million dollars to make my movie.

I'm like, you're out of your Like I look back, I'm like, you're are you stupid?

No one's giving you seven Well, the control.

You're talking about, you call the psychics for the control you had to control, right exactly.

So I was this whole thing.

But the moment I had this moment.

When I did my first movie, I was like, oh, wait a minute.

I just turned forty, I think at the time, and I was like, I gotta make a movie.

Thirty days later, I was shooting a movie.

Thirty days later.

I just didn't.

I just like, I'm I called my friend up, We're making a movie.

Yeah, call your friends, and we just literally made our first movie.

My first movie was called This Is Meg, which is on Next Level Sold TV if anybody wants to watch it.

And it's and funny enough.

In that movie, there's so much spirituality in it.

I had no idea I was doing it.

And now you look back, right, I look back, there, it's all there.

The opening scene, like our main character is listening to a guru on an iPad, like it's like a Tony Robbins kind of a cartole vibe.

It's a spoof of what a guru is supposed to be.

And then there's a nyahuasca scene in it, and there's like this Hollywood, Hollywood spirituality scene in it.

I was like, I look back, I'm like, oh my god, this movie is about spiritual.

Yeah, all the clues are there.

It's all there, all the glimmers all the little like diamonds is there.

But that was one of those things that I just went out and did it, and all of a sudden things just start right, just opened up.

That's how it's about work.

It's about you have to take motion, you have to take action.

And that's where the sematics comes in because people only have limited capacity.

You can make a million dollars a year and still have limited capacity in your nervous system absolutely and not be able to like, your body's gonna shut down.

It's going to tell yourself stories.

You don't have time, energy, money, whatever.

It's going to shut down.

It's going to give you anxiety symptoms.

But you have to know that if you're gonna scale the peak of the mountain, you're gonna get triggered more than you've ever gotten triggered, and you're gonna need the tools to get through that to the other side.

Because all of us have big work to do.

All of us have a lot of work to do.

And that's the thing that people don't understand.

Everyone thinks that I need to save the world.

I'm like, no, you need to save yourself.

And once you're able to do that, your example will start lighting up people around you, and that's how only that's the only way change really happens, because you can't say you can't save the world.

No one person really other than Jesus, No, no, but not one per or Bood, But not one single person can save the entire planet.

You can do your part, and you are an integral part of that process.

But the key is to awaken yourself and then not to try to convert other people, help other people.

But just your example, your energy, your vibration will start to ripple.

Which does that make sense?

Yeah, I can't tell you how many people watched the last show that we did and they were like, there was a missing piece that I was missing, And just that information shifts things.

Just that information that the somatics might be the missing piece for them will shift, will shift it instantly because now they know where they have to look.

You know, so many people have come to me and be like, man, I've been to so many therapists.

I've been so nobody ever told me this.

Nobody ever told me this in school.

Nobody ever told me that the nervous system is the key to like really what I call the second intuition, which is in this solar plexus.

Explain that, So explain that because the nervous system is really interesting too.

Yes, because I've I've done a lot of my own research on the nervous system purely because of the channelers and the psychic mediums that I've dealt with.

Because I've been explained and told that you have to kind of prime your system to be able to handle energies like that to come in.

It takes a minute for you to prime in.

So a lot of times smaller energies or training energies, or like let's say, if a channel a training entity, positive energy will come in.

Get you ready for the big boy that's going to come in or the big girl that will come in, because if they'll fry you, they'll fry you if you come in, the same thing with psychic medium shit.

But also in meditation, as you meditate, you raise your vibration slowly and slowly and slowly over the years, you're priming your your nervous system to handle higher levels of energy and frequency.

That's all makes sense.

It makes sense.

I think everybody just talks about it a little different.

Yeah, it makes it makes a lot of sense.

It's just like if somebody has just be I see a lot of high high achievers like this, people that are the doers of the world.

They're always doing, always going, always producing.

But everything looks great on paper, but they know that there's a void inside.

They're like, something's missing.

I don't know what it is.

And what they really need is internal space, not any more externals.

They need internal space because they actually are seeking connection.

That's what we all want.

We want to get back to connection.

Right, We've been living in disconnection.

Even with all of our producing, all of our doing, all of our going, it didn't ever scratch the itch.

There's always more, always needing more, raising the bar, doing the next project.

Well, that's why billionaires are like I only have two billion, I really need four billion.

I'm like, but you don't, you don't, you don't, you don't at all, Like at a certain point, how much do you truly need?

There's this kind of it's an endless some of these very famous billionaires, you just sit there and go are they happy?

Like?

Are they true?

I mean, because they're just constantly trying to fill a void that will never be filled with money, no matter the FROR system.

If if you're a trillionaire, which we will probably see a trillionaire in our lifetimes, which is the.

Same what they're looking for is.

And I hear a lot of people talk about this about people in Hollywood actors who are like, oh.

Yeah, I won the Oscar, not not what I know.

Those guys I personally, they can't even savor that moment or take space with that moment because there's no connection to themselves.

People talk about intuition, which is like reading other people, but like we could talk about safety or threat.

That's that's part of the sematics that I talk about.

But then there's a second intuition, which is intuition for ourselves we're supposed to be doing, which usually if the nervous system is stuck, that intuition is turned off.

And that's for me, like I was reading thousands of people over my years, but for myself, my life was a mess for a really long time and I couldn't really turn that part on.

And so the sematic work helps helps you get back to your own intuition, so that you get back into your own alignment to your purpose and to that fulfillment, because that's really achievable in the nervous system.

It's called the ventral vagel state.

Something that I just had like a slight aha moment when you said that we're all going back to connection.

We're all thriving, striving for connection.

Yeah, it is.

It's such a simple idea but so profound because on the other side, after all the your death experiencers I've spoken to, yeah, there is instant connection to the one you are one.

The understanding of we are all interconnected is just such a of course, on the other side, here we're thrown into something and we have the illusion of this connection.

We have the louson that you and me are not connected in one way, shape or form.

But if I hurt you, I'm hurting myself and vice versa.

That is such a powerful thing.

And then what did we do?

We create social media as a kind of a faux version or a proxy to connection, because I could have a million followers, but that's not real connection, that's just likes.

And you know, it's back in like my MySpace days.

You know, when you're MySpace, like how many friends do you have?

Like how many?

How many?

But you're not connecting.

So we're more connected than we've ever been.

But the loneliest we've ever been.

Well, that's where the universe made a choice, because we've always been in a war of dark and light.

There's always been a war.

Yeah, But recently, after this eleven year period of what I call the elevation period, now, the people that were being primed to lead usually had trauma and moving through it, we're at the Earth did make a choice, and the choice is that it's going deeper and deeper into disconnection.

And if you look at you're going to see a lot of renovating happening in the world, a lot of construction, a lot of things that are brighter lights and bigger things.

Then you know, more monstrosities.

But you're going to go to some of these places and think, oh my god, there's no soul.

There's no soul.

And during this solo pilgrimage that I've just done really tested my system.

I wouldn't be able to do this five years ago.

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But where I found the connection and where I found the soul was not in the big cities.

It wasn't in the lights, wasn't in the sounds.

It was in the small little places off the beaten path of just meeting people and sharing my story or sharing their story, moments of connection.

And so right now, it's not about people's journey, it's not about individual journeys.

It's not even even about my individual journey.

I know right now what I'm supposed to be doing.

Their souls that are supposed to be guided to me, that I'm supposed to help get them back to their creativity, to their impact, to their purpose, help them to reactivate the light pillar, help their chakra system to become clear again so that they can channel on their own, and then get that li like grid turned back on for them, and get as many lights pillars turned on and the earth that I can, because those people are gonna lead into their purpose.

They're gonna be leaders for other people.

So we need to turn on as many of those switches as we can.

And so I want to call even the mediums, the psychics out there, the light workers, come back home, because your gifts are going to be even better and more in tune and more You're gonna know exactly what you're meant to do.

We're meant to have more elevation in the work it's not about giving people readings, it's not about giving people messages.

Now, it's about getting people where they're supposed to be to lead the planet.

And everybody has a purpose, everybody has a mission.

The problem is, and I'm a lover of technology, you know that, we talked about that.

I love tech, loved and I love it.

But when I look at this intuitively in a channeled way, that's where the dark forces are keeping people in a trance, inspiraling them down with media, with social media, with news, all that stuff.

So I tell people three things.

You want to shift your vibration instantly.

Stop watching the news for five days.

See what happens.

Absolutely watching.

Be aware of what you speak because a lot of people don't realize they talk negatively about themselves.

Oh, they speak about medical conditions and chaos.

That's how people feel that they connect with other people when they talk about chaos and drama.

That's how people think that they connect with other people.

Person, let me ask you, it's true.

You know, I know I'm laughing, because when do.

You have any real conversation about they're laughing.

It's all about all the horrible things.

I know.

The funny thing is like I have friends who they call their parents and the first thing like, well, my hip is out and funeral and I'm going to Bob died, Yes, Bob died.

Didn't believe Bob died.

He was so young and ye, and it's like, yeah, yeah, my gird is acting up and we don't need to hear.

I've caught myself doing that, you know, recently, not recently, but like within the last year or two.

Like you know, as you get a little old, there's certain things starting.

A couple of wagon wagon wheel start to wabble a little bit more than they used to.

Yeah, it's natural, But I started catching myself doing that, like I'd call, I'd call somebody.

But yeah, wait to hear that.

Nobody wants to hear it.

But I caught myself, what are you doing?

What are you doing right now?

It keeps you in a lower vibration, it does.

And I tell the people that come into my program, right, the people that I work with individually, like in a group, very small group, they have rules like and they're not used because it's people with chronic have chronic illnesses, they have chronic conditions, they have chronic trauma, whatever.

But they're very talented individuals, right, these these women that I work with, and I'm like, when you come in here, you can't mention medical conditions.

They're so used to talking about their you can't say my this.

If you start talking about a situation about another person, I'm going to raise my hand.

I'm like trigger.

No.

Like I teach them how to talk to their nervous system, you know, is trained, and then they go out in the world.

They think I'm like trying to not let them say stuff.

They go out into the world and it happens to them like with another person, Like, oh, now I know why you're telling me to not have what I call temperamental lingo.

It's like, do we need to give all the details of a chaotic situation and all the details about the surgery and all the details about the horrible things?

Like when somebody says how you doing, they don't want to They're not they don't want to hear that.

What you know is what I find fascinating about you is the way you approach the work that you do.

You're so no nonsense.

It's kind of like a good teacher, A good call a teacher rather than a ward of guru.

But like a good teacher or a good mentor is someone who's gonna call you on your crap in your face and do it with love.

Yeah, total love.

It's not judgment.

My my mentor my mentory is they don't they don't feel judged.

No, no, it's not.

Yeah, they don't.

But you're doing it in such a beautiful like the thing that popped into my head as you were talking, I was coming up with this question in my head was the scene and Empire strikes back with Yoda when he when he tells Luke, Luke's goes, what's in that cave?

And he's like, oh, you know, and he's like, you're gonna face yourself in there kind of something along those lines.

He's like, and he puts his gun and he's like, that won't help you.

And that's when he meets Darth Vader and he meets him and he essentially if anyone sorry for spoiler alert, he slices us Darth Vader's face mask off or something like that with his lightsaber and his face is there.

It was such a profound, profound moment moment in that movie.

I don't even know how they got they got through to be honest with you.

It's such a profound moment.

But it's but the way he kind of like forced like and that forced them, but kind of just told them, Hey, you know, this is what's gonna happen.

Yeah, be careful, you know, but.

You're gonna and only wait until it happens.

Do They go, Oh, that's what she meant.

That's what she meant.

Yeah.

And these are people that are older than me, like a lot older that are used to it doesn't matter, it doesn't matter.

But they're like, I can't talk about it.

I'm like, no, you can't write about it.

You can't write in the community about it, you can't share an a general way, say you know what, I'm having a hard time because family members going through something.

We don't need to know all the details of what it is because it brings down the group, and so we need to keep the group safe.

You can only heal in safety, and when all that stuff's coming at you, it's not safe.

So I tell people that was the second thing.

The third thing is be aware of what you consume.

If you're consuming activating stuff all the.

Time, I mean, like I mean visual consumption, no, I mean.

Like anything on social media, like whatever, Yeah, be careful what you write.

Like if you're writing on and read.

What you're watching and listening to and.

The news, turn it off, you know, don't watch it.

Well, it's a fear machine.

And I yeah.

And people that start to do this work, they start to become a lot very relaxed for the first time in their life.

They start to like exhale, and then they'll be like, why did I just feel relaxed?

And then all of a sudden I had to go and like call someone to hear about their drama, or I had to like turn on TV.

And I'm like, because your body feels uns safe, relaxing, that's what it's protecting itself from.

So you almost need to keep yourself just above level with some activation, to keep yourself in that state of fight or flight, in that survival state.

Which is horrible for you, which is just it's.

Keeping you here.

And that's a lot of the leaders, a lot of the high achievers are here all the time, all the time, all the time, and so they start to we start to bring them in and I could tell you this journey is the best journey I've ever been on.

And I'm still doing my work because the more the bigger the mountain is for me, the more team I need.

Don't ever anybody, don't ever listen to somebody that has no mentors and that doesn't have a team, because you have your plateaus.

But when you scale that mountain, that next mountain peak, and you're coming towards yours.

When I find fascinating is I have family members that like, all they do is watch news all day.

They're older and they just watch news all day.

And when I get on the phone with them, they'll they'll tell me, they like, do you know what happened with this and this and this.

I'm like, yeah, I don't know.

He goes, how are you not informed?

How are you?

And I always tell them the same thing, which is what the great Wayne Dyer.

Said back in the day, Wayne Diary.

I loved Wayne.

Yeah, he said, if the news is big enough, you'll get to me.

Right, somebody will tell you someone.

If it's that important, someone is going to tell me.

And do you really think people, you're going to change somebody's mind?

Do you really think if you go on the internet and start like debating politically, that you're going to change somebody's mind?

Right?

Now now just wasting time where you could be getting back to your purpose, your creativity and influencing the world.

You're wasting time.

And that's how the negative energy is right now.

It's not what people think.

It's not like an evil entity that's going to show up.

It's coming at people and in the trances they're putting people in a trance with technology information, that's where people are going down the spiral and then they're just vision.

But there is I mean, but there's a positive aspect of technology.

Oh I love technology, of course.

Yeah, but it's just the kind of what you're doing is scrolling.

Yeah, I mean I.

Didn't experiment with social media years ago.

I was like, you know what, I'm just gonna watch positive like spiritual stuff and just what I just only only looked at that stuff, and I wanted to see what the algorithm, and all of a sudden, it would only feed me like you know, uh, inspire, inspirational stuff, motivational stuff, spiritual stuff, and it would just do that all so all of a sudden, my doom scrolling was like a spiritual scrolling like every everything yeah, really positive and that's what we try to do with our our social media is trying to help, and.

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But I can see, like if you, if you just and then the second the second I clicked, the second I click on something negative, all of a sudden, it just starts to feed you the negative stuff.

Yeah, it's it's controlling.

It's pretty insane what they've created.

But even people right now who are only listening to positive podcasts and stuff, it's still keeping them away from the action and getting more and more information and all like stick to one mentor for a while, stick to one podcast, stick to one source of.

This show is fantastic.

Yes, that's almost fun.

But it's almost like they think the more information they get, it's gonna move them forward.

From my personal experience when I was, you know, going at the beginning of stages.

So like when my mentor, I've known her since she was twenty three, my guru, and she's still alive and kicking, and you love her because she is very similar to you.

She from where's she from?

I don't know where she's from.

Uh, well she's from Florida, but she is Oh it's no, she's ninety.

Two Okay, so she doesn't care.

But she's been like that all her life.

Yeah, she just calls you like, you need to do this, you need to do that.

Shut up, get you know, pooper, get off the pot.

That's who she is.

So when she started being on my journey, she's like, why don't you read this book?

And you want to read this book?

And she just little things.

And I was such a baby at the time.

I didn't I needed information to just the basic foundation I didn't have, Like I didn't understand reincarnation.

I didn't understand you know, going going into reincarnation, karma shock or it's like real base level foundational stuff.

And I needed to learn that.

You're educating yourself.

You have to learn it.

Then she had to me yoga Autobiography of a Yogi, and I'm like, what is this?

Yeah, I don't understand any of this is just way too much for me.

Yeah, I'm gonna put that away.

I needed a decade to get back to it because when I start, then when I got back, I like, oh.

Yeah, now you understand.

Yeah, foundation, you need a foundation.

So there is moments on your journey that information is helpful.

Oh.

Absolutely.

But with that said, You're absolutely right.

At a certain point in your journey, you already know all the basics, so now you're just it's an echo chamber of the same stuff, or going to different podcast a different books, or different this or different that, thinking that the outside is going to help.

When you really need to watch a show, read a book and bring.

It in and then integrate it and do something about it.

You use it as opposed to just action.

Actually you have to spend the time, do the meditation, do the work within.

You know, for me, when I when I wrote my first book about me almost making a twenty million dollar movie for the mob that was so my god.

I cried when I was writing it.

I had no idea I was holding onto all that.

And that's an example of what you're talking about, Like this stuff that energy never left me.

I forgave the mobster who and the gangster who you know, threatened my life for a year and did all the horrible things that he did to me during that time.

But I didn't.

I apparently didn't let go of it, and I didn't know.

And this is really interesting.

Once I wrote that book, I realized, oh my god, that experience has been changing every decision I've made For the last seventeen years, I was attracting wrong people, wrong projects.

Why I would always get in the room with the big movie star and then wamp.

I'm like, I'm good enough.

Can the this damn thing go?

Because your capacity.

I wasn't I wasn't there.

You had limited capacity.

We can't change our Capacity's explain that.

Explain that.

I don't believe in the words self sabotage.

A lot of people use it nowadays because it's essentially shaming yourself, like you know better, But really a lot of this stuff is subconscious.

That's going on most most of it, right, So they're like, oh, I'm self sabotaging.

Well, if you knew you were, you wouldn't want to do it anyway.

It's more like I tell people, no, it's more like you have limited capacity and you don't have the capacity for it yet.

That's all.

You just don't have the capacity to reach the next level of vibration hold it and maintain it and keep it.

And that's why you see people like what happened with you?

You?

I call it blipping, where you get to that higher level and drops get to that higher level, drop.

O seventeen years years.

Right, But once you do, you come back in, you'll be able to hold it because now your capacity window.

It's it's like a little electric fence for dogs and cats.

Right, doesn't matter.

I love that.

It doesn't matter, like if you have a PhD you make five hundred grand a year.

It doesn't matter.

Your capacity and your nervous system, how you're born, how you were raised up till six to ten years of age.

That carries with you.

And that's a programming.

Yeah, it's programming and results in your decision making.

And the intuition, mostly for high achievers, is up here constantly scanning threatened danger, threatened danger, safety and danger.

It's I can most people that are highly sensitive who have trauma are able to their intuition is so talented, but they're I don't like that guy.

I don't like that they're able to put when it comes to themselves, you can't do it.

They can't see, so that they externalize then and they ask this person what they should do, and that person call psychic and do this.

But then their body continues to lead them down the familiar road.

Even though they know the red flags are there, they continue on anyway, because the body will always choose familiar over the unknown, even if the unknown is healthy.

Right, yeah, because it's that's the way that we're programmed for that, right, I mean, we're wired as a species.

That's right to say we want known, we want because if we do, if we go into the unknown.

The tiger will eat us, that's right.

So on a very reptilian, you know, primal if you're in fight or flight all the time, if you're in a ventral vagel state though, which is what people in Hollywood are really looking for.

They don't know.

It is a nervous system state, which is connection.

That's what all of us want.

But we're either in shutdown, fight or flight or in ventral.

And when you get a taste of ventral, you know, is that why?

Because you're you're a former film major, yes, correct, Yes, so you and I can talk a little bit about this.

Is that why we are?

When we were growing up in the eighties and the nineties, which was the best time ever, I mean, that's peak humanity?

Apparently, did you have garbage pil kits?

Of course?

I had the first series, second series, all of it.

Do you know?

I found somebody on eBay that has like the wax packets with the gum.

Of course they're still around.

Oh my god, I have to get some, I know.

Oh yeah, absolutely.

Sorry, I took you off track, So no worries.

So like in the eighties and the nineties, the movies that came out in those two decades were amazing.

But the thing about those films that is lacking I think in today.

I wanted to ask your opinion on it, and this is on a broader topic of connection, is that those films were made by filmmakers and had original ideas like the Goonies.

Yeah, you know the Goonies or et or Raiders or you know any of those other than Spielberg films.

But you know what a feeling they gave you, a connection of remlins like there was there was something that connected you.

There was there was an energy to those films.

Why would they why they are aging so oh so well, you know, I mean some of them obviously are dated, but those films, for whatever reason, in those decades seemed to connect even the cartoons we grew up with, there was a connection where now it's like this I've been watching on my Instagram.

I was watching the other day.

How McDonald's and all the fast food joints looked in the eighties and nineties and how they look now, Like, you know, a McDonald's back in the day was fun and there was a background and this.

Yeah, I mean, you had all this cool like and it was so unique.

A pizza hut the place.

We all know what a pizza hut looks like, and now pizza huts look like blobuster.

Yeah, but they all had very distinct looks and feelings, where now it's all just been homogenized.

And that's what I'm talking about.

So there's this and that's where I think a lot of the media that's been generated out there that's not conscious media is this kind of like just pale shadows echoes of what and they're literally shadows.

They're remaking everything.

Yeah, I mean, they're Masters of the Universe.

Is coming out for God's sakes.

Though I'm interested to see.

We'll see what they do because the first one was fun to watch with Dolph.

But but do you agree with that?

Do you think there was there was there was a level of connection that we had in the eighties and nineties and even the early two thousands, because the internet was still so baby.

It was.

Yeah, in the late nineties and early two thousands, dial up and all that fun stuff, that there was a connection that we had then that we don't have now in media.

Would you agree, Oh yeah, But I mean how many times you I don't know if you had this thought or whatever, but do you remember, like when your grandparents would take you to McDonald's or when you've watched you have a feeling, right.

Oh, pizza Hut, went on the Pizza Hut with those little with the lights, the lights and then and the little red the red cops and you absolutely, absolutely.

But you had you had a feeling when you would be told you're going, you had a feeling on your way there.

You had a feeling you were connected to yourself.

Yeah.

Right, that's what if you think about we're all trying to like go to these like going to Disney, and they're all making all these new universes, and what people are trying to do is they're they're thinking, well, if i'd go and do more and bigger, then I'll get that back.

I'll get that feeling back that I used to have as a kid going to McDonald's with my grandfather that's what people are searching for, right, they're searching for that.

They don't know it.

They think if they do something bigger, better and it's flashier, and it's going to know what they're you.

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So there's going to be a fifties land, a sixties land, seventy eighties land, in.

Nineties because that's where people The only way people can get connection today is by thinking about the past.

But that means they're not present, correct, and they're not moving into their future, correct.

So we have to get that connection back.

Now.

That's what I do.

And you're following the same pathway of the three step system.

The third part that I just got transmission about, you're following it as well.

You started with the love of film.

You started doing that.

Then your sabbatical, which you had to just like mine, was stop the medium trip.

You just stopped the film.

Then you're in the podcast.

Right.

I did ten years, right, and in.

My last ten years I built this up, this somatic healing program.

Right.

But now moving back home to the body gonna You're gonna heal the light body, connect to the grid, to the true purpose and mission.

And now you're gonna go back.

You're gonna have a third phase.

Which is what the phase I'm in right now, I'm going.

You're going into it.

Yeah, coming up in the next year and a half.

Right, coming up in the next year and a half.

Is this a reading?

Ooh ooh good?

Is this a reading?

Tell me tell me about my future.

Yes, but you're coming into the third phase where you're now going to be realizing, Oh, why did I have to stop film?

Why did I have to stop mediumship?

Why did I do this?

Why did I do science for ten years?

When I was a meeting?

Why are you're doing a podcast for ten years?

It's the period I talked about, the ten years eleven years of elevation.

So now we're coming out of that into year twelve thirteen, and that's when creativity with the people that are doing the work to get back in the body.

The creativity is the healing.

It's getting back.

I'm starting to do improv again.

I haven't done improv in like twenty years.

All the things are going to come back around.

So filmmaking is going to come back around.

But now you're going to be combining because it's your elevating you.

It was almost too basic before because it was coming from a place of limited capacity in your nervous system.

Not your talent, but in your nervous system.

You couldn't hold that vibration, so you couldn't hold it.

Now you've created space for yourself.

You've gone down this road.

I've gone down this science road, combined it with the spirituality right, created space within myself.

Now I'm starting to be able to hold more.

I have more space for myself, more space for my energy.

Most people that come to me, they're constantly caretaking other people, constantly living for others and being resentful and feeling obligated because all they're doing is caretaking.

Right, once you get the space, you're going to know exactly that you have to get back to the creativity.

That's where the healing is.

And you're absolutely right because when I started Next Level, so a lot of people were like, so what are you going to make a movie, When are you going to make a spiritual movie?

When are you gonna make a this or that?

And I'm like, Ah, one day I'll get to it one day.

I'll get to it.

Yeah.

People are like, when are you going to read again?

I'm like, my wait list has been closed for three years, and this is why reason you had to stop.

And I stopped for our arguably for ten almost not not ten years, because I did a couple of movies during the early part of that, but they were experiments and stuff like that.

But but now now when that's levels ol TV, when we launch that, I was like, oh, well, now it's time and now I'm now as you saw in the in our study.

Yeah, I'm very impressed with our studio and what we're doing.

We're shooting shows, we're shooting courses, we're shooting uh, you know series.

It's bigger than that.

What I see with you is bigger.

Oh, I know, it's bigger, And it doesn't it's like, this will still continue, but this is a this is another project and the name Edward is coming.

So there's something with somebody Eddie or Edward ed Edward.

No, not Edward Edward.

I have to look for an Edward.

Well, you don't have to look, it's gonna just show up.

Well, it could be a last name, first name.

Yeah, yeah, but you are on a okay, sorry, go ahead.

I keep seeing something about Venezuela, no idea.

Okay, okay, but you're on.

Like a beat.

I see you with like the director's chair, with the yeah, with everything, and you're like, but it's not the United States, and like you're in another country doing something.

Well that would make sense because I, you know, would love to go to Peru or go to you know and shoot at the.

I see you in the front of a beach, a beach like a body water.

Yeah, but yeah, you're doing something that is a it's it's a special it's a film, but it's a it's being funded by like a third party.

But it's not what this is all the stuff we talked about today.

This is remember the three stages you have your film, next level soul, this is this is your third creative combination.

There might be a horse in there too.

You don't know, right, the horse.

Your dogs dogs?

Yeah, your dogs do dogs dogs?

No.

But but that's the thing is that now we're combined.

I'm combining my filmmaking abilities with my conscious and spirituality and putting them together and we build.

But then you're not going to have to go after the actor.

You're not going to.

You're you're going to just when you're in alignment with the head in the heart, when the solar plexus opens and that that jack hammer goes down right and that all you'll actually feel it physically.

You actually will feel a rush of energy when that opens, and the things will just start coming and you'd be like, wait, now, I need to build capacity to actually step into this.

This is something I've been waiting for.

And you're like, well, if I'm going to do it, it's here, You're going to have to actually increase your capacity to step into it and to do it well.

Isn't it interesting though, that during during my other shows that I was able to, I apparently opened up enough capacity that the connect with like Oscar winning directors.

Where before I wouldn't, I just my my frequency, but I just was not there.

I couldn't, So that was I opened up.

So it's interesting the whole idea of capacity that you're talking about.

Yeah, so capacity expansion is internal, it's not external.

So the more that you do, the more accolades that you have, the more awards, it's not going to increase your capacity to really follow your dreams, to really go after which.

So right now we're like five hundred megabytes or five hundred gigabytes, and you need to get to a terrorbyte, two terabytes, three and start to grow capacity because you just literally can't hold anything.

You can't hold that frequency of something you really want because you're playing small.

And how do you open the freaking syon by doing the jacket?

Yes, but you don't want to jackhammer it, you know so much.

No, it's it's more like a lot of people are like, well, just get rid of it.

But I'm like, if you opened that dam with all of that energy, it's like it's like an instant pot.

Okay, this is this is the Okay, this is the best analogy that I have.

Imagine that your life right is in a pressurized instapot.

In every decade, all that pressure, all that stress, all the trauma, all the all the things that you've happened in your life are constantly creating pressure in the instapot.

What would happen if you just open that all a month a months, it would explode?

Right, So most people don't ever know that there's that valve up there where they start releasing releasing pressure a little bit of the time, right, But you need the valve.

Oh, without the value, you can't release the pressure.

Correct and you can't open the po So the somatic work is the valve.

It's actually I tell people where the valve is and we start to permanently release the pressure, release the pressure a millimeter at a time.

But it's permanent.

It's not like you go get a massage, you feel better, you go back to stress.

It circulates.

No, the valve releases permanent pressure activation because there's activation in the body.

And with all that activation, you don't have capacity for anything else other than managing all that anxiety overwhelming activation that's going on.

It takes a lot of energy to manage and control the internal chaos.

And I mean just taking this idea, these ideas that you're talking about, you start applying them to the masters that are like on the wall, like a Yogananda, who was a contemporary within the twentieth century.

I imagine that when they were younger, they were trying to figure things out, but then they slowly started to build their frequency, started to build the until they finally are able to get to quote unquote enlightenment.

They were opening it up so much that they become a walking master.

But I never thought about the capacity aspect of it of holding onto a frequency and like why can't I connect?

So there's like like perfect example.

So someone like Steven Spielberg.

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Obviously he's at a different frequency than other filmmakers, and he's been at that frequency for he's held it.

He's held it for decades, right in decades, So he wouldn't run into He just wouldn't run into a lower energy filmmaker like I was back at the day of like what's gonna happen?

When am I going to meet this?

That energy just wouldn't connect with him.

By the time you reach someone like him, you have, at one level or another, been able to raise your frequency to be able to even connect with him.

Correct, Like, he wouldn't even have to try to connect with him.

No, it's just it would happen.

And we've all had this happen where we meet somebody at a party and you're just like, oh, just it, can you get away from me?

Because they feel the desperation.

Oh you smell it.

It's like your car, you smell it.

That's survival mode.

Though that's not like a bad person, that's someone who's living in survival mode.

Absolutely, And so I help people break free of survival mode and expand their capacity to step into the life because I could tell you, Oh, Alex, this are your next steps, this is all the information, this is what you're supposed to do.

But if you don't have capacity, you're not gonna be able to do it or maintain it, or keep it or hold on to it.

And that's what most people don't tell you.

That's what most people don't tell you.

They think, Oh, if I go to a psychic, they'll just give me the answer.

No, it's gonna be superficial answers because even if I tell if you tell me like, oh, well, it's you know, in your future you're gonna work with Steven Spielberg, let's say, right, And I'm like, and when I had this, I did this ten years ago, I'll be like, I would.

I just wouldn't have the frequency.

I wouldn't have the capacity, but you wouldn't know that.

I wouldn't, but I would.

But that's my point, right, I wouldn't like it's useless to know.

They'd be like Oh you're crazy like that, wohldever, because your capacity is just like playing small in your world because that's the controlled world that you're used to.

Oh.

I mean people tell me stories or not stories, but to you know, giving me readings about things that are gonna happen to us and the company and what I'm doing and things like that, and I'm like, okay, yeah, got that.

Nothing Nothing is out of bounce for me.

I have a complete open idea of what is the potential of what we're doing in the mission that we're doing here at Next leves Ault.

So I don't I don't limit myself anymore.

Even if it sounds insane, I'd be like okay, but it's not.

A definitely I don't believe that's why I stopped doing them, because it's not like if you make a choice today, your pathway is uh, you're a different lane in the highway.

You're gonna be going down a different road, You're gonna be getting off different exits.

I want to start a podcast about jelly beans.

I think that's really what exactly jelly bean podcast, and we're gonna talk about jelly beans all the.

Time, all the time, all the time.

Orange jelly Beans, Orange Jelly.

That's one episode.

Then there's the black jelly Beans.

That was the one that really got everyone going.

But I could make that decision if you could, but everything in my body would be yelling no because it's just not the path I'm supposed to be on.

And a lot of people they hear the body yelling no, but they can't choose differently.

That's the problem is that they hear the no, well.

They feel it.

They feel it.

They're like, oh, I see the red flag again with this next person I'm dating, But I just can't stop because the brain is hardwired to feel attracted to that person because they're trying to resolve the loop.

So is the frequency of the people that you attract is the frequency that you can hold?

So pretty much right, So like if you have you know, I have a cousin of mine this years ago when we were young, in our early twenties.

He's like, Dude, every time I go to a club, I get in a fight, Like all the time.

Man, It's just like it seems like it follows me and I go.

Dude, I go to clubs all the time, and I never have gotten into a fight.

It might be you.

Yeah, like, what's the common denomination?

What's the common denominator?

Is you?

Dude?

Like you're either looking for it or it just comes towards you because you're just that energy is there.

And I never forgot that lesson.

I was like, Oh, he's just it's just he expects it.

So because he expects it, it happens.

So but that could be the other way too.

I expect only good things to happen for me, and that happens.

Well.

I think it's a little more complicated, yes, than that.

It's it's more of like we're trying to close loops constantly.

We're trying to resolve something that we couldn't resolve that had to do with another person a long time ago, and we will seek out similar energies.

It might not look like that person, might not be that person, but we'll consistently seek out similar energies in our work and our relationships people we hire.

Well, that's the problem I had with That's the problems I had with my film industry.

My film career is because of that incident with the mobster.

I just kept searching out the wrong people to searching out the wrong pride, searching it was just I just to resolve that.

Yeah, it was conant with somebody like that who will probably do the same thing.

Yeah, I never had anyone that bad again, but there were versions of them.

Oh absolutely, there were versions of it.

Oh, we're trying to resolve it.

Up until like ten years ago, I had friends who would treat me like that and I would allow it until I finally said that's enough.

And the second I said that's enough, I don't at track those kind of people in my life anymore.

Well, something must have happened in the body, of course.

Yeah, yeah, so there must have been something.

But yeah, there's a lot of times you will get the red flags.

But there is also a higher subconscious state that says, I need to resolve this, So I need to go into it because I need to.

I need to know I'm okay that I can resolve this with the energy that hurt me.

I need to resolve it with the familiar energy.

And you can't ever really resolve it with the familiar energy because unless that person's working on themselves, you know too, because you're just going to constantly keep looping.

But we need the capacity to move past.

That, and then people sometimes will leave their environment, move to a new city.

Move to a geographic cure.

Yeah, the geographic cure.

And to a certain extent, I understand the mentality behind it, because you're changing your surroundings, but the core issue hasn't gone away.

But so there is some value to like, your entire world is different now, but you're still going to attract those kind of people.

Like when I left Florida to move to La the first person I met, who was a friend for a while, was exact duplicate of my mobster, your mobster.

I called my gangster, my mobster.

It was the exact same, abusive but under the guise of friendship, right, you know, and I had that.

I had that guy in high school.

But that was familiar to you, so you knew that road.

I just kept going and kept going until finally with him, I stopped it and I and I just said no.

And even then I was tested.

A few years ago, a guy came in and I guess the universe was testing.

He's like, let's see if you actually learned this lesson.

And it's it's harder to close the loop than it is to go back into the loop.

It's harder to close it.

Well, but when that person came into my life, I ooh, like so quick, so quick, and I boom and it was like, okay, done.

And I haven't had to deal with that kind of situation since.

So it's interesting a lot of the things you're I'm just using me as an example because that's the only thing I can use.

Thinking about the things you're talking about, it's fascinating, Mersa.

You're you're not just a weirdo psychic medium.

Of course I am.

What's Grandpa saying?

No, I'm joking.

We'll talk about the Grandpa later.

Yeah, it's under world, Okay, Yeah, I hope.

So, I don't know.

It's funny with the medium ship.

I don't ever have any real like people come up they're like, do you remember when you said this and this and this, And I'm like, no, it's not.

It's not coming from me, but like through you.

It's coming through me, but it's not my own thoughts.

So it feels like somebody's telling me somebody else said it.

So before we close up today, because I could talk to you for hours, but we we have things to do, what would you what would be like a thing that everyone needs to hear right now?

Who's listening to this podcast now and in the future.

It's really right now about going back to what always inspired you, what always made you feel like, what you're always drawn to, the creative work, the creativity and going back to some of those things you always loved to do and revisiting them.

That's going to be really important right now.

That's where you're going to get the connection back, is by really going back to your truth and going back to the things that you love.

It's not about pushing more or doing more.

It's about doing less.

It's not talking less.

It's about less information.

It's about simplification, simplifying your life.

And that's scary for a lot of people because that leaves a lot of room to be with themselves.

They don't want that.

Yeah, it's but when you experience true space, you get very guarded with it.

Like my world has gone from this to this because I know I want reciprocal relationships in my life.

Today it almost seems like you have to get small in order to get big.

Correct, you need to yes.

Come back in.

But once you get to that certain point, it bursts exactly because now you can hold this and you don't have.

To ever control anything.

Ever, again, the reason why people control is because they feel out of control.

Yes, inside, they have internal chaos that just won't shut off, and so they try to control the outside because they feel so like this all the time inside and that requires space internally to do.

We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor, and now back to the show, MRSA.

Where can people find out more about you and the amazing work you're doing.

In the world.

Well, I'm sure it's in your show notes.

But Maurs Eliza Pel, dot com, connection beyond dot com, Maurusseliza Pel, just google me, You'll find me.

You're not hard to.

Find, not hard to find, that's all.

Yes, But just just get off the internet, like, just really start getting into life and start playing, start doing things, start making a difference, making an impact.

Choose choose what goes in your ears, choose what you consume.

Yeah, and choose what you say.

Be mindful about what you're writing, what you're speaking, what you're saying about yourself, what you're saying.

So right now, let's have a message for the for the troll that's watching at the moment.

I love the trolls because there's a I'm sure there's a troll the pain.

They're in pain exactly.

So if there's a troll watching, right, and I won't use the word troll, but someone all right, So that person who is right now going through something and needs is watching this and is disagreeing with you, holdheartedly and is about to write a vicious comment or does not like my shirt or anything about you or anything about me.

Yes, because there are people who just don't like you.

Stop it.

I like you, stop it.

It's okay, I have teddy bears in a car.

Good, thank you.

Disturbing but cool?

Uh?

For that person, what would you say to them right now?

Like I'm about to write, I just finished watching this thing.

I'm about to write this scathing comment or even worse, a scathing email towards us.

What would you say to that person right now who is obviously in pain and we're not joking about it, right, and that's and they are in pain, and this is the way they are lashing out or dealing with it, and they do it to not just us, but everybody from the Starbucks barista to the checkout person at the supermarket and yes.

Projection, yeah, yeah, what would you say to them?

Well, the reason they do it is because they weren't seen, heard, or understood in their life by somebody.

Somebody hurt them, and this is their way of being like, if I'm not going to get positive attention, I'm going to get negative attention.

I don't care what kind of things.

Yeah, I don't care.

Yeah, And it's it's more like the thing about it is that will come back to you if you put that out there, that's what you're that's what you're doing with your time.

You're wasting time, and it will come back.

And it's just the way that the universe works.

So put your time into consuming things that are going to bring you joy and realize who is that like?

Because when you really ask people why, why why why, it really comes down to somebody who hurt them in the past, or somebody you remind them of, somebody that you know did something similar with their job that you do or whatever, and they just they're not connected to their purpose as they they're bored.

This is why they're doing it.

But usually people who are writing this stuff they weren't heard, seen, or understood.

They didn't have a voice, or their voice was silenced, or their you know, somebody didn't want to listen to what they had to say, and now they could do it behind the comfort of a computer and get to experience their emotions of anger or frustration or fear whatever.

They get to be able to express themselves freely without any consequence.

Maybe in their childhood there was a lot of consonoquence to that.

Maybe they were bullied or maybe you know, but they weren't heard.

So they want they want to be heard.

So go out and do something more creative with your time and make it positive and get back to your purpose, because that's where you're gonna feel fulfilled.

It's not going to be from writing comments.

It's not going to be from hurting other people.

It's going to be getting back to your purpose and your creativity.

That's going to bring you joy because you're just wasting time.

It's going to come back, well said Mersa.

Well said, thank you so much for being here.

I mean, thank you so much for having me.

It's so much fun.

I mean I could talk to you for days and days.

You're going to keep talking, oh, I know, to keep I know we're definitely going to be keep talking.

It is such a pleasure having you.

Thank you so much for being this this just battle hardened light warrior that you are, and you're going I don't know if I would say I'm a battle hard you listen, you've got some shrapnel.

Yeah, there you go, your battle hardened that I'm a.

Hardened Okay, I got the I got the r.

You've got armor on, a thick thick a thick armor on.

Yes, but but you are you're trying to do amazing work in the world, and you are doing amazing work in the world in your unique way.

Yes, very very beautifully unique way.

But I appreciate you and everything you're doing in this world.

Do I get to next level?

So hat to if maybe because I love that hat we have, we might have a hat here.

She came all this way just for merch.

It's like I could have just said to you, I.

Tell you that like me coming here and taking this solo journey when I was supposed to be coming down with like other people being being a lot simpler, really was a capacity.

Like it really stretched me, pushed me to my limits, and I was I learned so much about myself from likeeing different part parts of the country and alone.

It was I couldn't do this, so I didn't have build a capacity to do it.

Well, it was your walk about.

What it's a walk about?

You know what a walk about is, right?

A walk about is what the Aborigine do.

Aboriginy in Australia do something called a walk about.

Where I think it's if i'm and please correct me if I'm wrong anybody in the comments.

But when a man, a young boy gets to a point where he has to become a man, they send him into the hell pack and he has to go into a walk about.

And that's basically what you're alone with your thoughts.

It's Jesus in the desert.

It's all this kind of stuff.

And you did it on a road trip and you were able to open yourself up into a way and just be with yourself.

Yeah, and to really connect with yourself and open your capacity to do those things.

And that's what it is.

It was your walk about.

Yeah, it was definitely because when you identify as like, you know, your leading and your business of your family.

You have a role of a parent and you become consumed with your roles that you're playing.

And when you are alone for that amount period of time on the road, like you have to eat at some point you gotta sleep, you gotta you know your your body just will let you know like you're out of capacity.

Like and so it was testing because I really thought I could go further times than I did and do more and I'm like, no, my body is letting me know what its limits are and how I'm not paying attention and taking care of myself.

So really cool stuff.

Really cool.

You will get a hat.

So thank you again for being here.

I appreciate your thanks for having me.

This is so much fun.

And I'm so glad that it wasn't a little like you know, office in what I said imagined it would be, because I had known closet when I came outside.

Yeah, I appreciate you.

Thank you.

It's so nice to be here.

Thank you for spending this sacred time with us today.

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