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I like to welcome to the show.
Speaker 2Ho.
Speaker 1Hey, okay, how.
Speaker 2You doing doing well?
Alex?
Thank you very much for inviting me.
Speaker 1Yes, thank you so much for coming on the show.
Sir, you are the first Cuban I've had on the show.
You are the very first.
Give I have a six hundred and something episodes.
You are the first Cuban other than me, of course, being on the show in every episode.
Speaker 2Yeah, I think I'm the second one.
You're the first one.
Speaker 1I'm the first giving you are.
Speaker 3You are second generation.
I'm actually fresh Cuban, made and assembling in Cuba itself.
Speaker 1But I am purebread, so I have both my parents cure pure bread.
Speaker 2Yes, I am a pup.
Speaker 1I'm a pure bread.
I'm not a mix so but I am.
Yes, I'm first, I'm first generation a year, born a year, but uh, but raised in Miami, so it's kind of close, right.
Speaker 3So Miami is like Havannah, North Havana.
You know, it's like it's like most popular or most Cuban city in the world.
Besides how yes, it's definitely important for us.
Speaker 1But my friend, I'm so glad you here.
You're here.
I wanted to I wanted to have you one because I've had another astrologers on, but I have not had an astrologer from your perspective, from the Latin American kind of angle of it, what kind of astrology do you actually practice or study?
Speaker 3Okay, so within the astrology we have different schools, and uh, within that school there are specializations like for example, my school is called Hellenistic or traditional astrology, so it's basically, uh, it's more rooted into second century till the seventh century type of astrology, the traditional, very conservative astrology.
And within that school I have my specialty is actually elective astrology.
You know, I'm a little bit nervous right now.
Okay, so this is a big deal to be in your show.
So I'm kind of struggling because of that because I'm excited to.
Speaker 1Trunk.
Relax.
It's all good, brother, don't worry about it.
Here, you're with family, my friend.
Speaker 2You're.
Speaker 3Thank you very much.
So Elective astrology is basically a branch.
No, it's not a branch, it's actually a practice or a technique where we find of specious time to schedule things to do, things to close a business, to open a business.
Also, I specialize in astro cartography, which is relocational astrology, finding the best places in the world where you can actually take advantage of the energy depending on the area of your life that you want to improve.
That's actually more like a falls more into the modern type of astrology, a modern technique more than anything, and electional astrology, which is finding auspicious time for anything.
You know, from the very beginning of astrology, one of the main purpose of astrologery is actually forecasting, you know, kings and the powerful.
The powerful in the world.
They wanted to know if we're going to be able to win a war, or make an important decision or avoid certain things.
So the astrology job at that time was actually forecasting finding the right time and also the right the right people to feed in for whatever project, the powerful, the novel, the king, whatever was was about to start.
Speaker 2Uh.
Speaker 3So, electional astrology is basically preparing for for the best time to start or to stop doing something that was also the exit is also very important.
Now Hellenistic astrology.
Uh, the difference between the Hellenistic astrology and the modern school is basically that we we give to the aspects of the planet.
We give in certain occasions we give a very narrow orb, which is a distance of one planet to another to form an angle.
At the same time, we also have another you know, we have an ample option because the degrees was was actually something implemented later on.
But we are more conservative in the way that we treat the angles, and we consider with certain skepticism the modern planets like Pluto, Pluto, Neptune, and Uranus.
So those are planets that we do pay attention to, but we don't give them the importance the weight of the traditional planets, or for example, we don't provide we don't give them a rulership to a specific sign like I'll give you an example, a Neptune.
The modern austrology call it the ruler of Pizis.
For example.
We do consider Neptune, but we don't give them rulership or Uranus is the rule of Aquarius.
But we respect that, we observe that, but there is not enough time to give the enough weight that we assigned to Saturn as the traditional ruler of Aquarius like for example, or another example will be uh brutal.
It's a new planet is recently discovered.
We're talking about three hundred years.
Astrology is a millionary uh uh millionary science.
And and that's another thing that we we pay more attention to Mars as the rule of Scorpion instead of Plu.
Speaker 2Now we do keep him in check.
Speaker 3We do pay attention to those planets, but again as a psychic to to provide context, not necessarily to give the full weight regarding also, for example, one of the things that we differentiate maybe from the traditional or the modern astrologers is that although other practices like the road and other divine or occultest practices, we see more astrology as a scientific or as a science.
If you if you google it or you check and chudgept whatever you want use.
What would be the definition of a science is basically the study through time, through our senses of an object.
Those findings must be documented and they have to be reproducible.
And I always explain that that astrology feed that criteria perfectly well.
Because history is actually like a blockchain for us.
You can quote any war, any any any any problems in the world, or any great event.
And we're always going to find a similar pattern with planets and and and the different type of relationship with between these planets malefical benefics that that confirm that astrology is actually reproducible, that is actually real.
As a matter of fact, that's another thing that I always explained, we are not psychics.
Speaker 2We are actually like a musician reading.
Speaker 3A chart, like like a like a party of musical notes, and that those notes or that bulletin board is actually published by the creator on the on the heavens and on the sky, and we read that chart.
And the reason why we can predict what is going to happen is because we have seen the same part and repeating in the past, producing those results over and over and over.
And because of that, we can actually say, hey, coming this year or this month or whatever time period, something similar is going to happen.
Now, yes, there are.
Speaker 2You know.
I think that astrology also.
Speaker 3Brings a perspective that there is a creator, And probably that's why other practices, spiritual practices or cult practices include astrology, because one of the key things that astrology has.
Speaker 2Is that it proves.
Speaker 3By amazement that there is a creator.
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Speaker 3And one of the wonderful things about that is that you can see that there is a synchronicity, a relationship between charts, like for example, events are happening for the life of a child is reflected on the parents' chart, and vice versa, and with your spouse.
So how come we can see that connectivity or that synchronicity between the charts of the relatives if there is no a supreme intelligence coordinating everything.
I think that that's the reason why the late eighteen seventeen hundreds Australia was Buddha side.
You know, there's in Europe the rationalism and giving more importance to the to free will and and the reason Buddhasia astrology because one of the things that that science does is actually that confirms that it has to be a creator.
There is no random thing.
Our life is actually very well coordinated and arrange in a way that has a purpose.
That's another point of Hellenistic astrology astrology.
We do a lot of emphasis in the eternal argument of free will or fate.
What is the real thing you know, hellenistic astrology will be more fatalistic in the sense that we don't believe in random or that you have the option to overcome or take that as a challenge and you can turn it into a complete turnaround.
We're more fatalistic in the sense that what we see in a chart basically describe your potentiality and also your capacities and your free will is limited by your ability, the one that is reflected on the chart, so there is no deviation that you you can actually become yourself.
Let's say a sport start a sport a start when you actually are not built for that.
One of the things that I actually I actually explaining my in my YouTube channel is that when you are born, that NATO charge uh that is reflected on the sky, that at that moment that is reflected on the sky is like a software configuration or a software that is done load or firmware that is injected into you, and that gives you all the potentiality or capacity that you have to become whatever you are.
Speaker 2The more you.
Speaker 3Become acquainted, comfortable accept your true nature, the one that you were designed for, the happier you become and the more successful you become.
Instead of fighting what you don't like about your life, you just use what works and then try to understand the reasons on why you were conditioned maybe not to perform as well in another areas.
It's sometimes I even use movies.
I like to use a lot of metaphors to explain how that works.
For example, I don't know if you remember, have you watched The Matrix the first part?
Speaker 1Stop insulting me, sir, please stop insulting me.
I talk about The Matrix on this show constantly.
Of course, I've seen that.
Speaker 2It's my favorite movie.
Speaker 3Well, I watch it over and over because the more I watch it, the more I discover things.
But there is a there is an important thing that I connect with astrology, and I'll tell you what it is.
The moment that Neil goes and talks to the oracle and she takes out of the out of her persont candy and tells him do you want candy?
Speaker 1And that would be the That would be part two, by the way, just so it's part too.
That's part two on the bench right before they start fighting with mister Smith.
Sorry, you're walking you're walking into my world now, my friend.
Movies, Oh, yes, that's part two.
It's very clear and a very important scene in his right.
Speaker 3Neil told her, listen, if you really if you're an oracle, you know why?
I mean, you know if if I will take the candidate or not?
And she als, of course I know, otherwise I wouldn't be a good oracle.
But you didn't come here to know whether you will make a decision to take it or not.
You came here to understand why you made that decision.
The same thing happens with Australia, and that's the perspective of Hellenistic astrology.
We don't come over here to try to be different, but to understand why we are designed the way we were designed.
Speaker 2And he has a connection with yeah, let me stop.
Speaker 1Let me stop you there for a second.
It because when you're saying you're designed the way you're designed is an idea that I talk about on the show a lot, which is like you and I are not going to play in the NFL or in the NBA.
We weren't designed to do that.
That's that physically we don't have the attributes to do that.
I'm not gonna be an astronautic because I can't do math.
Basically, you know, it's not something I was done, But what I am designed to do is what I'm doing, whether it be this show or movies or content or you know, creating media or things like that.
That is what I was designed to communication, exact mass communication.
That's kind of what I was designed to do, and I was given skill sets to do that.
Could I try to do those other things, sure, but I'm not gonna get far because I'm just not built that way.
I'm never gonna be Arnold Schwarzenegger.
You know, I'm never gonna be a bodybuilder because my genetics doesn't carry that.
I could probably do as far as I can, but there is a limit.
So when you're saying fatalistic in regards to your chart, what I find fascinating about that is that we all have this blueprint that we're laid out with and there things that will and this kind of goes into the near death experience sole blueprint idea where on the other side, you choose I'm going to be this person.
I'm gonna be that person, I'm gonna have this parent, I'm gonna be born in this culture at this specific time in history because I'm getting ready for whatever I want to experience that And I kind of understand that idea because just looking back at history, I'm like, well, I wonder what it would have been like to be in Rome.
I wonder what it would have been like to be growing up in the fifties.
You know, these kind of these kinds of ideas.
So I kind of understand that.
But the idea is that you're thrown into these in this environment, and certain things you have no choice over.
There's because we all have free will, but there's certain things.
So I didn't have quote unquote a choice once I got here, where I lived, who my parents were in this world.
On the other side, I had the choice of what I wanted, but once I got here, It's exactly what you're just saying with Neo and the Oracle.
You now have to understand why you chose this path and why these things are happening to you.
So a lot of things that have up to you, whether they be relationships, whether they be accidents, whether they be trauma, whether they be super you know you're super wealthy, you're born into a super billionaire family, or you're born dirt poor.
You have to understand why you were put in those scenarios and then kind of just the only thing we have control of is how we react to these situations and circumstances that life gives us.
And I do believe that we can overcome certain things.
But I can overcome my parents, parents are my parents.
I can't overcome that I was born in you know, in South Florida.
That's just what I want.
There's nothing I can overcome there.
Those are just facts.
But could I change things?
There is there's in my opinion, and please correct me, there is kind of a a little bit of guardrails up, but there is space for you to bump around within that scenario.
Does that make sense to you?
Speaker 3It makes sense, And later on we're going to connect it also with life experience, instance and diagnosis.
But yes, the reason, yes, there are things that you cannot and there are all the things that become actually a super power after you become a stronger.
I give you an example, Cairn.
In your chart, it might it might reflected the wound that you might be fighting your whole life to fifty.
But then when you become fifteen, you have your first and your last hole as you become a vampire or something like that.
But once you become fifty, that actually that return of Cairo becomes your superpower.
Is like before it was something to what is hurting you very much, and then it becomes the greatest gift that the God assigned to your life.
Yes, you have to work it out and become a master in that area.
That's one example I like to explain that.
The point is that in this life astrology astrology cannot describe what is happening before your life, this present life, and in the future in another plan, you know, another life after this one as surely it is about this world right now.
And I totally agree with you that before we are incarnated, we have absolute free will, well not absolute, but more like absolute free will.
And I will explain why I say, I don't think this is absolute.
But once you come down here, you have to work your contract.
So that's that's another thing that I always this like.
For example, I use names or metaphors to describe what is a natal chart, Like I call it the the script that you're about to perform, your your contract for this life, the software that was installed, a letter that is opening opening up a little but a little.
Speaker 2Uh.
Speaker 3The the older you become, I want to connect that to past life.
For example, one of the things that I always explain is that astrology cannot uh describe anything else from another world because there is no confirmation that is actually reality.
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Speaker 3You know, it's black and white.
There is no connection, a real connection between astrology and another philosophy of life or religion.
That's something that we add on later on because it's black and white.
But there are answers that are not in a chart.
And then we need to justify.
You're trying to find out why, for example, a person is not born with a lot more luck, why his life or her life is so challenging.
Well, that might be coming from another life, but astrology itself cannot show you that.
Now, there is another school of astrology called evolutionary astrology that actually tries to find those missing links with all the lives, but we don't have a real scientific information.
When I say scientific is that it has to be really documented and reproduced through time.
So evolutionary astronomy we have to assume that what they're saying is true.
But nobody had come from another life to come from you right, you are having these aspects in your chart because you carrying on some duties from the previous life.
Now regarding the other life experiences, one of the things that happened to me before I actually became became public as an astrologer is that I passed past a year long in a therapy course or and my last class, my last three months was actually trans personal hypnosis.
And it took me completely by surprise, because by nature I am very skeptical.
You know, I have mercury in aquarius.
I need to find out everything before I actually accept it as a fact.
So I'm like Saint Thomas, I need to test in order to believe.
And one of the things that happened in one of those experiences is that I actually had the opportunity, and that's the most beautiful memory that I have from my past live regression to plan my life in the in the in that time of between lives, right, I had the experience of planning, and I remember that I actually was selecting or trying to argue with that light being that was actually instructing me.
Speaker 2I called that light being.
Speaker 3Uh, my master.
I was actually to select some experiences that I didn't want to live, and some of them were allowed me to skip, but some of them basically this being told me, no, you have to go through it.
Speaker 2So in a.
Speaker 3Previous life or in between lives you have I can say that, based on my personal experience, you have the freedom to choose some of the things that are the themes that you're going to experience in.
Speaker 2In this uh, in this time.
But once you get in, once you come.
Speaker 3Back here, uh, the condition is already set up.
And I believe that the chart is actually uh the software that is install of the contract that you signed before you were born.
Then to perform here, to to develop it over here makes sense.
Speaker 1Yeah, it makes it.
Speaker 3I see it like like over here, we are limited by the abilities and the contract that we signed before we came here, before we came Astrology itself doesn't tell you that.
I'm assuming that that's the way, because I also had another experience where I can actually saw that we have some some level of choosing, some some capacity of choosing.
Speaker 1Yeah, let me ask you how old is this version of astrology, because this is a this is an arm of it that I have not I've not heard of.
Speaker 3It is actually the oldest version of astrology.
Hellenistic astrology is the blend of Babylonian, Egyptian and Greek traditions and it developed between the second century before Christ till seventh centuries after Christ.
You know our era, but it's actually the most documented, well known uh, and the oldest form of astrology from there, from those roots, at least in the Western world.
Because there is another type of astrology which is obviously connected to us, but their brand child with their own flavor, which is a vertic astrology.
Speaker 2Uh.
Speaker 3In our astrology, Yeah, Butanese astrology is not connected to ours.
Speaker 2Like vertic astrology is very similar.
It's the same.
Speaker 3Root, but they have different different perspectives, like for example, they we give more importance to the ascendant.
They give more importance to the to the moon, to the moon sign.
They have all the things that probably we lost because of the Christian in positions through the culture.
Like for example, we have a technique that was recently, very recently discovered or translated into the modern world which is actually very antique.
It's called so diaker releasing is a technique of timing where basically they we can actually see important events that are happening in your life like a schedule day by day, week by week, month by month, or year by year.
They're very castralogy because they did not have this problem with Christianity.
They've flourished and they have something similar to what we call so diaker releasing, but it's a lot more developed and.
Speaker 2More accurate.
Speaker 3If you want, I don't, I don't record right now the name of that technique.
Speaker 2I know the name is just right now.
Speaker 3It doesn't come to my mind, but it's similar to that, so that I a releasing and and I think that it was lost or they gradated a lot because of the burning of libraries and persecutions, so anyone that thought differently through throughout the two thousand years of Christianity.
But astrology itself, that the Hellenistic astrology is actually the more the oldest version of austrology that we have, and from there we have new branches like psychological astrology, we have evolutionary astrology, astro cartography.
All those are techniques or a school of austrology that are actually more recent.
You know, it's more it's more in tune to the New Age type of world.
And it's also mixed up sometimes a lot of times with more spiritual disciplines.
Hellenistic tends to be, although it does not reject the spiritual world and other disciplines.
Hele Anistic Australia had to be more into the more pure.
If you want, it's not a we our best.
That doesn't mean that.
It means that we are more like restrictive in what we include, more conservative.
Put it the way for a planet or anything as surely to be considered respected, we have to have a lot of centuries evidence, a lot of a study and observation through our many centric antic astrology is a millionary discipline.
The modern Australia and the modern disciplines are more like maybe two hundred, three hundred years, maybe less.
Speaker 1But I asked this to other astrologers.
I wanted to ask you, have you ever gone back to a master and followed their charts.
So obviously we don't know exactly when Jesus was born, okay, I use him, or Buddha was born.
We don't have those numes.
But we have someone like Yoga Nanda or many of these other yogic you know, being that were masters while they were year but they were in recent times, within the last hundred years.
They were alive, so there is actual records of when they were born.
Have you ever just done the exercise to go back to a master and kind of got see what the stars were saying and if it like.
Speaker 2Yes, yes, specifically Jesus Christ or Jesus.
Speaker 1Because we don't what's the day, what's the date?
Speaker 3Well, the exact day we don't have, but for example, we have an important date, which is the day of the crucifixion.
And that's the reason why we can actually go back to the date is because the Gospels has actually described what happened.
You know, there was an eclipse, it was before passover.
There are clues and science Israel they use a moon calendar.
We can see which one was the date or the time that this was happening.
I don't recall exactly the time because that is study.
Actually did it a couple of years ago and haven't touched it again.
But I remember when I actually was reading the chart of the time of the moment of the crucifixion, I had a mixed reaction of excitement, euphoria, laughed, laughter, I was laughing like crazy and crying at the same time of excitement.
Because my background is actually Christian dogmatic.
I started to be a Catholic priest.
That's another thing which is connected from astrology.
As a matter of fact, one of the modern systems house systems that we use Placidus.
It was actually popularized by a Catholic priest and in Italy classically carries his name.
But I remembered that because I couldn't understand the theological and biblical.
Speaker 2Part of it.
Speaker 3When I was actually seeing the chart of the moment of the crucifixion and the eclipse that was happening at the time, and all and everything that was going on, and all the positions.
I remember the key points that I was telling me the combination, uh, you know that the Son, the aspect that the Son was doing to Jupiter.
Uh, the opposition to Saturn.
Uh.
I don't remember all the details, but the position with the with Virgo, what was happening in the sound of Virgo reflecting the sorrow of Mary at the mother at the moment at the foot of the cross.
I mean, it was a combination of things that was telling me definitely, definitely there was something divine going on with this guy.
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Speaker 3I wish I can recall more details of that chart is a is a very clear uh, but I don't recall right now all the details.
If you want, we can actually do a second part just for that chart itself.
Speaker 2But I remember that it.
Speaker 3Was an explosion of joy and amazement and I laughed because God has a sense of humor.
That's one of the things that I actually learned, the sense of humor of the Creator.
And my mind exploded at the moment in many emotions, like I couldn't hold it.
He was very strong.
But yes, it is an impactful, an impactful thing.
And if you actually go back to thirty three years before, and that's another thing that we had to fight with the calendar when actually Jesus was born, it seems that he was born actually in the second century before Christ.
So when we look at the chart of Christ itself, although we don't have a completely defined date of his birth, the slow planets positions at the time that possibly the time that he was born was well described in an important person.
One key point that we do have about his birth is actually the conjunction of Saturn and Jupiter.
Uh sat on the wise by experience that represents also the evil side of the divine forces and Jupiter the wise by divine inspiration, the magnificent Jupiter.
And that's one of the things that actually was followed by by the Three Kings, the famous tream magic magis.
They were not kings, they were not magis.
There were actually three astrologers.
Matthew two actually reflects that as well.
There is actually literally in Matthew two, Chapter two, there is actually a description of what would be uh a transit, a transits a consultation when Herold the King asked the three Magi, tell, you know, check really well stands when you're seeing you're watching the start and we know that Jupiter takes about a year to move from one side to another, their Saturn takes about two years and a half.
And noticed that a few verses down the keen order to kill anyone under two years old, you know, born within a period of two years, because that's the time frame of the conjunction of Saturn and Jupiter.
So that was that is you know, I don't have all the details in my head.
Speaker 1Now, Yeah, that's fascinating.
Speaker 3Definitely in that chart, that a proximity that the proximity of that his bird chart, and specifically that's the one that I studied.
The chart of the data of the crossifixion is mind blowing and definitely confirms that there was something divine about that person, something very special.
Speaker 1That's very that's actually fascinating.
It would be an interesting example exercise to kind of go back to different masters that walked around at certain times in history just to see what their charts are like.
But I'm assuming you've also gone back to just recent history and see if the charts lined up, so like when World War One starts wor World War two starts with you know this happened or that happened, the Civil War, these kind of I'm just using American wars vers as references because those are very large things that happened to humanity, especially the World wars.
Did you have you done that exercise and have you gone back and do things lined up?
Speaker 2Yes?
Speaker 3And that's one of the reason why I move out of the United States to Spain and now planning to move to Argentina.
Speaker 2So let me explain that.
Speaker 3So we are right now in a cycle that is repeating science the French Revolution.
So we have, for example, a planet like Pluto, a modern planet that moves or does a revolution every two hundred and forty eight years and now has returned to our aquarius, which is the signed that inspires freedom and rebellion from the people, from the chains, from the oppression of of the powerful.
There is also another aspect of that planet.
Plual is out of bounds.
I mean there is a road like like expressway or a road that the planet should go right in order to be considered in a normal position.
Let's put it away in a in aspect to the sun.
But when that planet goes above or beyond those boundaries, we call that they.
Speaker 2Are out of bounds.
Speaker 3And in this case, for example, the one that we are right now, like in the times of the French Revolution, Pluto is out of bounds to the south, which means that the long, slow moving planet, the energy that this planet is actually bringing to the world is actually a time of freedom from oppression, freedom from control.
Speaker 2And you see what.
Speaker 3Is happening right now, You say, how can that be happening when we see a lot more control building up.
Speaker 2Yes, there is.
Speaker 3Another planet, a slow planet.
It's a modern planet as well that was discovered recently Uranus that was actually line up or returning into.
Speaker 2Gemini.
Right, So let's go back to the French Revolution.
Speaker 3At that time, we had a Pluto in Aquarius and we also had Uranus in Gemini, and that's what gave birth not only to the French Revolution but also to the American Revolution Independence War.
Right now, after two hundred and forty years, now we are two hundred and fifty.
Pluto is back in Aquarius, bringing the same theme of a liberation from oppression.
But there is a cycle that is repeating it for specifically for the United States, that happens every eighty four year, which is the return of Uranus into Gemini.
The first time that it happened was the Independence War.
Eighty four years later we have in eighteen sixty one, we have the Civil War.
Eighty four years later we have World War Two, and guess what, twenty twenty six, we're gonna have again the return without going back of Uranus into Germani.
And that's gonna be a long period like eight years that is going to be working, but it's gonna be coinciding or touching or doing a conjunction with the native position of Uranus in the native chart of the United States, and later on by twenty eight.
It's twenty twenty eight is going to be touching the native mars of the United States.
So yes, the partent that we had during the Civil War, during the Independence and French Revolution, Civil War, World War two, we have it right now.
And you can see it reflected in the environment that we have within the United States.
Not only because the United States kind of like approaching or or playing with the possibilities with the international war, but there is also domestic like for example, all Another similarity is that during the Civil War we had a Neptune transiting in areas, right and that Neptune was actually doing an aspect of opposition with Saturn.
Right now, what we have is actually, in my opinion, worse than that opposition.
Speaker 2That we had during the Civil War.
Speaker 3We actually had the union the conjunction of Saturn and Neptune inside of the of areas, which is similar to what happened during the Civil War.
So I expect that because of that, uh, the tensions within the United States are going to grow even stronger and stronger.
But it's gonna be even more expanded beyond the borders of the United States.
Speaker 2Actually, it's going to be I think it's.
Speaker 3Going to be becoming a global conflict worse than what we have ever seen before.
And that's the reason why we're pointing down or looking considered in moving down to Argentina, because you see in the modern war and this is not astrology.
Remember I don't have psychic powers, but if you see the modern war, the modern wars, like for example, in Ukraine, you can see that today's war are not based on tanks and a lot of soldiers, you know, we see more like, uh, the buzzing of the what is it called the the the drones, the bossing of the dolls drop dropping bombs and finding artificial intelligence being used to detect and find the enemy and execute an attack.
Speaker 2And it could be even worse.
Speaker 3Remember Pluto is a planet that we also associated with atomic energy and it was actually discovered when men actually started playing with the energy for that purpose for military use.
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Speaker 3And we have it also in a sign that is actually doing that has a relationship with motor energies, is also forming a trind with Uranus, another planet that has to do with these type of energies in Gemini.
So We're going to see an explosion of energies that are more focused or connected to military military use.
Just because we have the same repetitions of our parties that we have in previous war, I can say that the North Heavi sphere, which has been basically the scenario of all the by wars in our history and basically in the last two thousand and three thousand years, I can foresee that something big is I mean, where United States is going to be may a mayor player.
And that's the reason why we move out of the United States a year before even we had the president administration, because I saw I told my family, listen, things are going to get worse and worse in the United States.
It's time to move out.
I always said that I'd like to be early, a year before than a day late, because I knew what is coming.
Now from Spain, we're actually watching what is going on in the United States and we I'm not amazed.
I'm just confirming that things are just warming up for a lot more tensions that will start specifically next year after you know, twenty twenty six, after April twenty twenty six.
From that, Uranus finally move into areas and we have the conjunction of Saturn and and a Neptune getting strong within areas and Uranus in Gemini.
We're going to see that the tensions, the social thing and the problem that we're we're gonna have within the United States are going to be increasing and getting more more.
Speaker 2Difficult to tolerate.
Speaker 3It's in my opinion, it's going to be an archaotic than that we really want or expect.
Speaker 1Now with all of this, you know again, I had I talked to so many different people for so many different walks of life that psychics, channelers, mediums, astrologers.
Nothing that you're saying is surprising.
It's all kind of like twenty twenty six, twenty twenty seven, It kind of it starts to cool off around twenty thirty two, is what I'm hearing.
Is that what you see as well.
Speaker 3Yes, twenty thirty three will be the day or the year that you might hope to return back to the United States, which is not going to be the same after that, because it does another thing that I've been analyzing for the next ten years.
Speaker 2We're going to see a complete decline of the United States as a world superpower.
Speaker 3And I see another empire of power rising up, which is China.
I was actually analysed in China's charge, and I see that all the events that are actually creating the decline the United States are becoming an opportunity to rise up even more powerful for China.
Speaker 2You know.
Speaker 3I'll give you an example, the return of Pluto.
Pluto when the United States was created, a creator or born in nine seventeen seventy six was in Aquarius.
And usually the empires fall when we have a return of Pluto, or we have at least the second return or the third return, the most right, the same happy with the British Empire, with the Roman Empire.
Speaker 2Well, guess what the.
Speaker 3United States already had because the retrogation retrogressions, we had actually two returns of Pluto.
We have Pluto coming to the axcept point of Earth, which is twenty seven degrees of Capricorn, and then later on we had another retrograd Pluto into that degree, which it signals to me that the times for America to be great again is a long time passed.
And this is not a political estatement, it's an astrological observation period.
So we're going to see the decline of the United States like any other empire with their footprint and power in the world.
Speaker 1So with that said, so something like the British Empire obviously, and for people listening that might be freaking out a little bit in regards to you saying that.
And again, nothing of this is surprising.
This is other astrologers have said the exact same thing, that in the way the cycle is running, that the US Empire will weaken while the Chinese Empire will strengthen.
That but the British Empire, which was a world power at a time, they're still fairly powerful as a country in this on this planet you and so is France, and so is many of the older empires that were world empires have have weakened, but there's still, you know, something to be reckoned with.
So it's not like tomorrow that the United States is going to turn into a third world country by any stretch.
That's not happened.
Maintain a certain amount of strength and power.
But it seems like they're eating we're eating ourselves from the inside essentially.
Speaker 2I see it this way.
Speaker 3No, the United States is not going it's not going to become a third world country.
That's not what I meant, you know, the empires.
Once they lose their power to submit and control others, they become legacy type of empires.
Like I'll give you an example right now, for example, the United States, because they might of.
Speaker 2The of the army or the of the of the military.
Speaker 3Military weapons, they can super word a baseless currency called dollar, which is the FIA dollar, which has not whatsoever backup of any kind but the full credit and good will by fear by force of the of the military of the United States.
I think that is going to change big time, like the dollar will have to find a backup with a real money like goal or something else in order to survive the new world, or we can actually become use another type of currency, but definitely something The capacity of the United States to impose sanctions financially in other countries is going to completely disappear.
But the power, the military power probably also will be not as determinant as dominant in the world like it is today that you can actually impose a lot of fears or control or have basis all over the world.
That is going to diminish, like for example, give an example, the British Empire.
The British Empire is not any more what it used to be.
But it's a legacy empire that has a common wealth, a common wealth that a lot of people share, culture, share, share self interest or history with that empire.
Or I give you the example of the Spanish Empire that has no meaning whatsoever military or or economically to any part of the world, but there is a strong connection with any country that expects Spanish and anything that was actually produced by the Spanish Empire during those centuries.
Speaker 2You can see it.
Speaker 3For example, when any of us hispanic returned to Spain our motherland, our mother or country land.
We call it a way, you know, we can see the similarity of the culture.
Speaker 2The fools, the religions there that connects.
Speaker 3So we have that empire like type of connection.
They have a strong voice because it's our mother but it's not anymore what it used to be.
I see United States transition into something like that, maybe another power of second degree or third degree, let's say second degree at first.
But China is becoming what the United States is today, Dominant in technology, dominant in the financial world, even dominant militarily, so they will be the ones imposing sanctions another when things don't go their way.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1So the other thing I wanted to ask you is the cyclical aspect of what you were talking about, like empires falling and you know every three hundred years or something like that, you can kind of see what was going on.
But there was an empire that ran, and there's many empires that ran for longer, but the one that's in the most recent history is Rome.
So the Roman Empire, to my understanding, wasn't power for over almost a thousand years if history serves me correct.
So cyclically, a lot of the things that you're talking about would have happened during the run of the Roman Empire.
But yet the Roman Empire didn't fall.
It might have faltered in you know, year three hundred, a year six hundred, if it's a cycle that goes in.
So what happened there was it just lack of other powers, And that's why I just stayed there.
There wasn't a China, there wasn't a Britain, or there wasn't a France that could jump in and take over the world power because Rome was a world power in the most recent years of the last two thousand years.
There were obviously longer with the Byzantine and.
Speaker 3Aria West, the eastern part of the empire.
Well, don't expect that it will fall overnight.
Speaker 2It's not going to be that way.
It's going to be.
Speaker 3A transition into another level or another degree, and then the other one takes over.
But I'm talking about it a range of fifteen years.
For the next fifteen years, it's going to be a lot more.
It's going to be sooner faster than what we actually want.
But it's going to happen gradually.
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Speaker 2Roman Empire.
Speaker 3Yes, disappear as an empire, but actually whatever they left it didn't actually completely was it raised from history or from you know, all the cultures, the barbarians and the different cultures that invader destroyed that unity that we call Roman Empire.
They actually accepted and adopted and actually in a way they tried to rescue it later on by calling you know, the new Holy Roman Empire and creating new ways of reviving that new empire, that empire.
Speaker 1So isn't it Isn't it true though, that the Roman Empire never actually fell.
It just turned into the Vatican.
It turned into the all that wealth, All all that wealth went somewhere.
All that gold went somewhere.
So the Roman that and I don't want to get into the go down the rabbit hole of the Vatican and the Roman, the Roman Roman Catholic Church and all that, but a lot of it went into Rome.
And because I was standing at when I was standing in the Vatican, and I've said this before and I'll say it again, it was the stupidest thing I've ever thought of.
I've been a Roman, I was a Roman raised, Roman Catholic all my life, went to Catholic school, the whole ball away.
I still feel guilty about it.
Speaker 2So Catholic.
Speaker 1I am a recovering Catholic.
But the thing is that when I was in Rome, standing at the Vatican, at Saint Peter's at St.
Peter's Basilica, I'm sitting there and I'm looking at it, and I go, oh, my god, Rome, Roman Catholic Church.
I never connected the Roman Empire with the Catholic Church, but that's what it was.
It was the Rome exactly.
Of course, I was a little slow on the uptake for me, but it was it was like, oh my god, Rome turned into the Catholic Church, and then all of this stuff, and then and then you start going into the council and you obviously studied or were going to become a priest.
So but how the Bible was written, the Council of Nicee Constantine and all of that.
Then I was just like, oh my god, this is this is so that's where Rome went.
The British Empire has turned into what it is today.
Very powerful, very powerful country, but it's not a world power.
It is a very I mean, you don't want to mess with with Britain, you know.
But if China wanted with Britain, Britain.
Speaker 2Really couldn't they themselves.
Speaker 1They couldn't, you know, they would need the help of the United States and pretty much the rest of Europe.
And even then I'm not quite sure what would happen.
We might blow ourselves up up at that point.
Speaker 3Right, right, yeah, Well, the Catholic Church basically, yes, it's the continuation of the Roman Empire, but more as a political cultural part of the empire.
Right still has the persuasion from a political perspective and historical perspective and psychological perspective that the Roman Empire has, and as a matter of fact, it has the power of unity that the Roman Empire had around all the cultures that were within the Roman Empire.
The same thing happened with the Catholic Church.
You can go anywhere, whether it's a Catholic church or a Catholic community, you're going to see a very common team pointing to Rome, right, with their own distinctive but very very much Roman, very much like the Italian Church.
I mean it's not far yes in that sense, yes, but I don't think the United States has the rich and the power that the Catholic or the Roman Empire has.
For example, Spain, Spain was actually a country that was actually conquered by Roma, right, But today the Spaniers they feel proud to be descendant or or share the Latin culture, the culture of the Roman Empire.
Uh, you know, the conquerors suddenly became not the enemy, but they became actually something to be proud of.
Again, it didn't happen overnight, because I'm pretty sure that when Romans came into into the Peninsula, into into Spain, the native were not that happy.
But the transition progressively was turning that culture into a new era.
The same thing probably will happen with the world in general.
The United States will uh will lose up a little bit there if you want their pride of being the greatest and the best country in the world, which is not.
Speaker 1Listen, we're number one where listen, we're thirty second in math, you know, twenty seventh in science, but number one in confidence.
That's right, that's right, But that's but that's the that's the propaganda.
I mean when I was I was raised here, so you got here at seventeen.
I was raised so I was pretty insulated for most of my life until I started to travel the world.
And when I started to travel the world, I started seeing other cultures, start seeing other countries, and then looking back at the United States and the propaganda, not the propaganda, but the media, the Hollywood.
I come from from that world.
That's what we exported our culture.
And for a long time, the US culture, American culture.
Everybody wanted KFC, everybody wanted blue jeans, everybody wanted everything that was America.
Where now other countries, I mean, look at Korea, for God's sake, South Korea, the k pop revolution.
You know, it's insane in Spain, sending out, sending over you know, amazing content on Netflix and things so all these kind of thing.
Now other cultures are starting to take over popular culture.
When the Americans had it locked down for I'd argue probably from the fifties on.
Yeah, I'd say from the fifties on, they had a run about fifty sixty years that everybody was all about American culture.
But now there's this mixture of so many other different different countries that are starting to put their culture out in the world place as well.
Speaker 3And I see that happening in the United States after year t one thirty three, where America is gonna it's going to open up to older cultures, languages, and be more tolerant.
And I actually celebrate like Spain now celebrates the conquerors Rome.
Eventually Spain, I mean, the United States will be also like for example, when you see, even though the American has a lot of influence too with Hollywood and music and all that in the world, when you see, for example, from the perspective of Europe, that America is only is so focused on English only, when the beauty of speaking more than one language is such an amazing improvement for your mind and your soul.
I mean, it's laughable when you see that America or English only like for example.
That's another thing.
I think that America is also going to evolve into being more like Europe, more tolerant and open.
The reason why I think that way because the new society that is coming after these, the our times that is approaching, is going to be more focused on the value of humanity, not on the value of might or power, things like that.
Plural in a quir is going to bring, like in the French Revolution, going back to astrology, it's going to bring a sense of freedom from whatever is oppressing the world.
Speaker 2You know, I say, you know people, they see a.
Speaker 3Lot of control digital id uh CB, you know, the digital currency, to control how you spend your money, social credit, that kind of stuff.
Yes, that is gonna to a point, is gonna bring the world to a point of I can't take it anymore, and then we're gonna become free of that.
Why because Pluto out of bound to the south in Aquarius is gonna turn all the technical oppression and the oppression from the world, from the from the superpowers or the governments into a revolution where we're gonna be inclined more into respecting our fellow human looking for something more transcendental in our life, not necessarily just this.
Speaker 2Life, or or being only very individualistic.
Speaker 3That's another thing that I actually experience when I moved to Spain, uh, walking away from thirty five years of mindset in the United States that you have to be successful only for you and by your own effort, and then you understand the world from a different perspective.
Not necessarily communists, no, no, no, but having compassion and having a consideration or all all everyone around you.
I think the world is moving into that direction.
But before we had to go through this process of transformation, not necessarily through a good means.
Remember that, unfortunately history have proven them.
We men do not change onto something drastic really happened, like a war, like a mayor pandemic, something major has to trigger that we become more sensitive.
I'll give you an example that two thousand and one, when ninety eleven people went to the churches and everyone became more American and more civilized with everyone and more connected with the divine.
Something like that is going to happen in the world.
There is a transition.
We're going to be more tolern The United State is not gonna appear, it's just going to transform into something less.
Less ultra nationalists and close minded to one language, one form of way of being to consider everything else that is out there.
That's what I see is coming.
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And the funny thing is that this country was built.
It's an experiment the United States.
It's an experiment of every culture around the world that built this country.
All cultures built this country, as opposed to Spain or France or England, which were very native, you know, specific kind of language and country and people.
We have.
We're a melting pot.
That's what we were built on.
That's how that's why we became as powerful as we are because we opened our doors to everybody and we worked with everybody, and that's how we were able to this scrappy little country built up into a world power.
And after World War Two, when Europe was just devastated, we were fine, and we were able to build an economic engine that my parents' generation took advantage of, you know, and then my generation has taken advantage of it to a certain extent.
And then but it's gotten weaker and weaker to the kids who are coming up today, I feel habit a little bit tougher in many ways than we did growing up and have stresses that we couldn't even comprehend.
Then.
God, social media wasn't around when I was growing up.
I can't even imagine, you know, just for the evidence alone of the things I did in high school.
So to make sure that there's none of those videos out there, but it's it's I think we all we all can agree the things that we would not want to see shown that we were like in he what we were wearing.
Speaker 3A lot of a lot of things wouldn't be tolerated today's day, for sure.
Speaker 1Oh No, And you can kind of go back and look at I was talking to someone today this morning.
I'm like, I was like, I saw a clip from All in the Family, from the seventies show All in the Families was the number one show in America for years.
Very oh my god, the stuff that was coming out of his mouth.
I was like, oh my and I remember watching that show growing up, and it was just like, oh my god.
Things have changed so radically, Hodie, I want to ask you, with all of these changes that are coming, and obviously we're kind of going through a Dark Knight of the Soul as as a species, as a consciousness.
That's what these next set and eight years are going to be.
I've been talking about it for a few years now, kind of not scaring people, but trying to let people know, Look, this is coming, and it's It's not that it's good or bad.
It's just going to be what it is.
Kind of like when you know, you go through a heartbreak, when you lose your job, when you you know, when you get divorced, when you have a breakup.
Those are very painful things that happen to you, but those are the things that you grow from.
Those are the things that elevate you and push you forward.
Without those extremes, you might just keep coasting through life.
So that's what we all kind of need that wake up call as a society.
But with all of the all of the kind of negative stuff that we've been talking about, I also want to put a spotlight on the positive.
There are large amounts of people awakening around the world.
This show is a perfect example of it.
I've said it before and I'll say it again.
Ten years ago this show doesn't get these numbers.
You know, the years ago I would have been laughed out.
You know, I couldn't have a conversation with an astrologer, a Cuban astrologer who's in Spain talking about craziness, you know, or a psychic medium or a channeler channeling higher beings like those conversations would not be allowed.
But now, for whatever reason it is, it is something that people are looking for.
They're leaving the traditional paths that are not serving them the same way, the more dogmatic religion, the more fear based religions, and now they're starting to look for more spiritual, looking for answers within themselves, looking for paths to go on.
You yourself, we were talking a little bit about that.
Can you tell a little bit.
Can you just tell people what the show did for you as an example of to illustrate what we're talking about.
Speaker 3Right, I had to go a little bit back, like, Okay, I when I was a teenager, back Inqua, I actually enter a seminary to start to be a catlibrist.
Speaker 2Right.
Speaker 3I thought I was going to be a Catholic priest.
Even when I moved to the United States, immgrated with my parents.
My father was a political prisoner, so we looked from Havana to Miami, and I thought that I was going to continue, no problems, no big deal.
Speaker 2It didn't happen.
Somehow I got.
Speaker 3Involved into working making money things and started doing well for me, and uh, life in the United States took over and I was able to excel financially.
I started to be an it guy, and I, you know, I was very happy with everything knew that I was discovering, but I also was moving away from my original vocation.
I remember that the reason why I wanted to be a priest is because I wanted to be like an embassy of freedom, an escape of freedom, and a powerful weapon to help my people that were dying in drying and dryness.
Speaker 2You know.
Speaker 3So when I came over here, I dried up becoming successful by myself.
Speaker 2But I got a like.
Speaker 3A big stop in twenty twenty.
That was something that really like completely shook me to the point that where I've been going, Why do I keep doing things just to paying money when I know that I'm not happy.
My life has no meaning whatsoever.
My original vocation is not in use at all.
And I feel horrible because then guys started to read take more time and one of the things that I did is actually I got involved into hymnosis, you know, learning more about my mind and the superpower of power mind, which is I call it.
Speaker 2He knows, is a superpower.
Speaker 3So I got enrolled into a school in Tampa that they were doing a program for a whole year and we have a you know, different courses, and I specialized in clinical and then later on transpersonal.
But at the same time, during that time, I was actually dealing with my father.
Speaker 2He had a.
Speaker 3Very strong health condition, you know, heart condition, heart failure, condition, congest her failure, he was going through dialysis, and at the same time I was having a tough relationship with him.
Speaker 2He knows.
This was actually helped me to.
Speaker 3Finish brush up all the bad aspects of that relationship to the point that I took over and created for the last few months of his life, a wonderful relationship with my father.
I was so grateful about that.
Then I got into transpersonal and my father, my father already died and I got into this trans personal I was like always a very skeptical person that doesn't going to happen to me.
Nothing is going to happen to me.
I'm not a Napoleon or Cleopatra.
I'm not an a special guy.
I'm not going to be seized Roman Roman Emperor.
Speaker 2That's yes.
Well let's take the class.
Let's see what happens.
Speaker 3So I remember doing my first regression, you know, me being the subject in class, and it took me by surprise.
I only visited one time, one life, one past life several times.
Speaker 2But there is one particular.
Speaker 3Regression which is the most treasure delightful memory that I have, which is the time between life and life, between one life and the other life, in between, a lot in between and in between a lot of things happened in that regression, and I remember that one of the things that happened to me there is actually that I was able to telepathelictly talk to a light being that was right in front of me.
I couldn't define whether it was a male or female or their name.
When I was asked, I knew that that being was my master or the Master.
I didn't see Jesus or angels.
I just saw this bright light that it was so bright that in this world we could never resist.
But in that experience, I could see through the light without being affected in a negative way, and I was able to actually see plan together with that person my present life.
I remember discussing some of the things that I wanted to do or not But at the same time, I was shown the last few moments or years perhaps of this current life that I'm living, and I noticed that what I was doing was great, was actually impacting many people.
I remember seeing, like, for example, I was on a stage and I had a lot of people around and they had like a light on, like when you turn on the flashlights of your cell phone, and they were waving from the stage.
I was actually able to feel it, the collective gratitude and enjoy because of whatever I was done, I was doing in that future life that was going to incarnate, and I felt a rush of aphoria and I started screaming, I'm ready, I'm ready, I'm ready, because I wanted to be the moment.
And then I was lay I fell back and I was laid into my mother's room.
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Speaker 3There is a lot of things that happened in that a lot more details.
Remember that, Like a month after I had that experience, I found your channel, specifically a video about one of your guests that he was for forty five minutes.
He had a near death experience, and here recounts what happened in the afterlife.
A lot of the things that he was describing, I actually experienced it, and I never read about her or actually checked into it.
At the same time that I was watching that video and that I was battling with the big question, So we reincarnate, there are other lives, so there is no heaven and hell, so we have a continuous progression of our life.
Remember, and coming from a dog Mardy background, very strong dog Mardy background, So I have so much pain in my mind and fear because at the same time that I wanted to believe that experience, my dog Mandy background that was so rooted into my mind was fighting a strong what if the devil was actually taking over your mind and making you feel or imaginable things.
Why this is all crap and you're just being full into something new that you know you can't believe that.
But then when I watched that video in particular, and then some others in your channel, I started losing up.
How can that person have the same experience that I have?
How can I know what he lived when I never read or watched a video like this before, but we have common details about the experience, and mine was only was only a regression.
His was actually a real thing, you know, like in the ear the experience and also the other videos that I that I watch, they start softening up my or down my soul, the rebellious part of my soul.
And then I start realizing our lives on my life has a bigger meaning than just this eighty sixty whatever years we're going to live in this plane.
There is more than that.
Our life is actually eternal.
I start realizing that our live is actually eternal, but we just in a continued learning process to understand why we are who we are while we do the things that we do, what is our real true vocation.
And that's what actually happened.
And that completely started changing not only my theology which was completely wiped out, most of it was actually wiped out, but also turned or change the way that I also relate to people around me, Like for example, I became more tolerant.
I was very obsessive of vehement with whatever I believed, you know, like a like a whole inquisitor.
But my truth was the truth but now because of this transition and these videos and the testimony that you were reflecting in your channel, my soul was actually souftening out with the sweetness.
Or actually I stopped and listen and consider others and instead of seeing seeing them opposing parts that I had to rebottl, now I can actually see that there was a compliment, that something was fitting in that we were actually pieces of apostle, that it was not you or me black and white, it's actually we together.
A lot of things it changed.
All combined with astrology, of course, as surely also is very revealing, but your channel was instrumental to make me uh be more tolerant and understanding with my wife, my children, their transitions in life, there, their moods or whatever, all the people in general.
Speaker 2Uh Like.
Speaker 3For example, one of the things that uh that that happened to me because of the things that I saw, my experiences and also the compliment of the videos that I saw on your channel, is stopping bottling or fighting with other people about my truth or what is a defined truth.
Suddenly I became more like observant and respectful of together.
Combined with the swingness, another thing is guilt.
Speaker 2The guilt and fear.
Speaker 3I had a lot of gear because fear and guilt combined because I had to be a certain ways.
I don't behave a certain way.
Then I am evil health and I got to help.
Then I realized that actually even my because of your shows and some books that I also read, even the bad things that I can describe as evil or uncomfortable or not good at all in my personality was actually mechanism or defense or simple tools that was actually used for good, to form me, to bring me to awareness.
A lot of things change the respect to myself, the consideration to myself, Like I became a lot more embold and and and fearless.
One of the by products of your show and the hymnos it he knows this was the confrontation.
Speaker 2With reality which brought me to a crisis.
Speaker 3Your show Easy Down, Easy up my attention my sphere and made me relax.
Because of that, I actually was able to open or there to start my astrology channel Astrogia, which I started in June twenty twenty three, June twenty third, twenty twenty three.
Before that, I wasn't there to do it.
Why because you know, the high school friendships are like forever friendships, right, well, my friendships are friars, frist Diackens, nuns, and one bishop.
On top of that, I actually taught leaders, Catholic leaders about Old Testament evangelization for the actually diss of Miami.
So coming in public as an astrologer was a social It was a social cost that I was not willing to pay.
I couldn't I couldn't dare to go above that because of your show, Because of all these experiences that happened in twenty twenty three, specifically that that video of your guest that was I had an experience for forty five minutes near that experience.
For forty five minutes, I was actually I found the boldness.
Speaker 2And the.
Speaker 3Valor to say, I'm gonna talk what I know is true.
I'm gonna start coming out instead of conforming.
I'm going to start doing my thing.
At the beginning was rough and difficult, and I have to learn how to talk to a camera and how to do anything in YouTube because I never done that before.
But it was a challenge that I couldn't do before this experience that happened is especially when I was able to lose up from the guilt and the fear from religion coming from you know, the.
Speaker 1Catholic Yeah, the Catholic dogmatic background.
Thank you so much for that.
That's so beautiful to hear.
I mean, I do the show, and you know, I put it out in the world, and I have no idea sometimes what it does to people watching, but it is service that I'd like to do.
But the reason I wanted to bring that up is because it's an example of you awakening.
It's an example of millions around the world who are starting to awaken.
And that is the hope for all of this, because what you're seeing in twenty thirty two of an America that's a little bit more open and a little bit more kind and a little bit this or that.
It needs people who are awakened to start doing it, very similar to you.
So with and this is something that and I'd love to hear your thoughts on this, but this is something I've always found when there is a great negative, one of the laws of the universe is a great positive will go up to balance it.
So World War two, a great negative came up, but then the ally forces came up to meet it.
It's never, it's never.
Darth Vader completely knocking you out.
There's always a look, there is always a Yoda, there's always another force to balance that out, and this is another example of it.
Yeah it's gonna look dark.
Yeah, there's gonna be some rough patches over the next seven or eight years, but there is a very positive force coming up at the same time.
We might not see it all the time, but it's there underneath it all.
Kind of like the negative is.
Over the last twenty years, say twenty twelve.
From twenty twelve on, which is a very significant year, from twenty twelve on, all the things that were underneath, all the anger and the resentment and the racism and all of that stuff started to bubble up and started to come up.
So it's always this balance.
It's always these cycles that keep going around and around.
That's the universe.
I mean, the solar system itself.
Our solar system is an example of reincarnation.
Every so many years.
The planets come back around every you know Haley's comment, I was alive.
You were alive when Haley's comic came.
Now most people here don't.
I got to see Haley's camera.
I was in sixth grade.
My teacher told me to go outside and look, and I saw Haley's comment.
So I actually saw Haley's COMPA Haley comic comes around every seventy five years, right, and I might see it, who knows, I might see it in my lifetime again.
But it's cyclical, and there's so many things in our universe that are cyclical.
This is one of those cycles.
Is that all coincide with what you're seeing.
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Speaker 3And not only that I agree with you, but in addition to that, it is necessary because coming out actually makes people later on realize what I have done.
If you look at your past past years, when I look at mine, I can see that everything that we're now seeing the collective right now, the rage and the hatred or the intolerance that we see right now very much reflected in the American society.
Speaker 1And around the world too, by the way, and around.
Speaker 3The world as well, but we're talking about United States specifically now.
I mean I can see that in a bigger or smaller degree.
I also have done it in my own personal experiences.
So because I had done those horrible things, or say those horrible things that I said in the past or I heard someone.
The memory of that, or becoming aware of what I did and said was actually made me realize, and then a change in my soul was produced, more to be to become a more sensible, more tolerant, more respectful, and also more forgiven with myself and others, just because I remember I also was there.
I also did similar things in the biggers or smaller degree.
So the thin things, the same happens with this society.
You know, whatever is happening right now in the world, America or any part of the world that is negative, it is necessary for the collective to wake up, to see their darkness and say, there has to be a better way.
Speaker 2Yep, how can I be like this?
Like World War Two was actually a big wake up for the whole world.
But we have enjoyed.
Speaker 3We had the generation that actually enjoy a lot of years of peace and a more a society, more focused on education and multiculturalism, understanding other nations.
You nighting also becoming a more global world just because of that ultraannationalism that was an in tournagance that was as a theme of the World War two.
Well, the same thing will have it over again.
We will be better because whatever is going on right now.
Same in the personal life.
Speaker 1Hodie, Where can people find out more about you and the amazing work you're doing in the world, My friend.
Speaker 3My website is Astrogia or astrogia sometimes people pronounce that like that is astrogia dot net and the YouTube channel.
I have the same name Astrogia in YouTube, Astrogia in Instagram.
I'm also opening now the English channel, which would be astrogia end.
And that's another thing that was a challenge for me.
You know, let's let's take over now, let's start to bring this to the English.
Speaker 2World as well.
Speaker 3I know there are many out there that do Australia in English, but I kind of felt that I had the confidence now to say, you know what, I also have a lot of a lot to give in in this language, even when I have my Antonio's Mandera accent.
That's a that's a defense that I use against my fear of my own accent.
Speaker 2But it's very nice.
Speaker 1It's very nice about it.
Speaker 2I laugh about it, Okay, I I'm Antonio.
But yes, as Trogia do net, that will be the website.
Holda.
Speaker 1It has been a pleasure speaking to you my friend.
I love your energy.
I love the work that you're doing and what you're trying to do to help awaken this planet.
So I appreciate you, brother and uh mucho Mucco Veneciones, and you may you continue to do the world the work that you're doing, my friend, So thank you again for being on the show.
Thank you for spending this sacred time with us today.
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