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NLS 626: REVEALED: Explore UNKNOWN Realms Between LIVES; Your SOUL'S TRUE Origin & PURPOSE with Dr. Linda Backman

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Now today we welcome doctor Linda Bachman and we have amazing conversation about past lives, in between lives and soul origins.

Let's dive in.

I like to welcome to the show, doctor Linda Backman.

Speaker 2

How you doing, Linda, I'm doing well.

Thank you, Alex.

It's good to be here.

Speaker 1

Thank you so much for coming on the show.

I'm I love your work.

I love what you're doing in the world and helping helping awaken this planet.

In the way that you're doing it is beautiful with past life regressions and soul connections and between lives and all these kind of things.

So I have to ask you before we even jump in, what got you interested in this kind of thing?

Because it's not normally in the syllabus of a doctorate, if you will.

Speaker 2

That is, yes, my professors from years ago would probably just you know, cringe.

Well, I'll try to make a long story short.

I always say to people when I guide clients, they come in two flavors, and I'm one of those two flavors.

So one flavor of people that I work with are people that have known their soul.

They might feel past lives, they might feel guides from childhood on.

You know, they might say things like, yes, the grandmother that people talked about came into my bedroom twice a week, you know, in the middle of the night.

That's flavor A.

I am not flavor A.

I'm Flavor B.

So flavor B of people that I work with, and I am that flavor is people who come into spirituality, you know, midlife or even later than midlife.

So that's my story about thirty years ago.

I always say I was minding my own business as a psychologist in general practice.

I had spiritual interests, but I didn't understand soul or reincarnation.

I was in my middle forties.

My closest colleague, a man with whom we build a group of psychologists and psychiatrists, sadly died from a type of lung cancer in his early thirties, and when he passed, and of course it was very sad from a human perspective.

But when he passed, he began to talk to me from the other side, and part of me, Alex thought this is just crazy, and you know, what do I, as I'm a psychologist, what do I do with this?

And he began to show me past lives that we had shared, so part of me said, oh, you know this is not true and I'm making this up.

But I knew I wasn't making it up.

So I continued being very curious, and I decided I'd better tell my husband, who's still my husband of many years.

But my husband and I had been together for already twenty or twenty five years, about thirty years ago, and we're both, you know, pretty progressive kind of people.

So I asked my husband to sit down and I explained what was going on, and basically my husband looked back at me in a really calm manner, and so I said, you don't think this is weird?

Is that right?

And he said no, I don't and I kind of was shocked, and I said, why don't you think this is strange?

And my husband is a retired university professor, and so my husband said, well, I guess here's the answer.

He said, only now on this day, about thirty years ago.

Go do I remember that?

As a boy, My husband said, as a boy, I remember my past lives in detail when I was outside by myself.

He grew up in the country, he said, spontaneously, I started remembering my past lives.

And so my husband, whose name is Earl Earle, said, so, I've always believed in this, I just forgot So he said, look, if you want to learn about this, go for it.

That was great permission for me because it was a surprising but fascinating experience.

Speaker 1

Interesting, very interesting.

Okay, so let's get into We're going to assume that the audience understands what a past life is.

There's reincarnation that we come down every time to learn new lessons and deal with karma.

So let's talk a little bit about karma, which is a word that is thrown around a lot in the lexicon, but it is in the lexicon where it wasn't before, but it has definitely been in, you know, in the Lexiconso like instant karma, like you know, when someone cuts you off and then they get pulled over by a cop, you know, something along those lights.

Speaker 2

Right right, That really what karma is.

Speaker 1

That's just lovely, the universe being lovely.

But so my first question is how does karma manifest across lifetimes and what role does consciousness awareness or conscious awareness play in the balancing of.

Speaker 2

This karma when we come into body, when we incarnate, and I'll put it this way, when we incarnate on earth, one unique quality of coming here to Earth is that we have free will.

So we come into body with, to one degree or another, a life plan.

But what we do with that life plan we can alter based on human conscious choice because we have free will.

So we can say, well, I know I wanted to clean up that relation and ship with this soul that's going to be in my life today.

I know that I wasn't a very I wasn't a very good parent.

Let's just say to X soul in a past life.

So in this lifetime that soul that was my child, that soul is going to be my grandchild and I'm going to behave differently.

So that's the plan before we come into body, almost like a pre birth plan.

But when we get here, we can say, I don't really I don't really like this this grandchild broes me the wrong way.

I don't want to work on it, and so we make that conscious choice.

That's where we had karma in the past.

We bring the karma forward.

We can choose whether to work on it or not work on it.

So simplistically, that's the notion of karma.

Speaker 1

And we do choose the circumstances that we're born into, meaning we choose our parents, which is this is difficult for a lot of people to kind of wrap their head around.

We choose our parents, We choose our country, We choose our religion or community, we have one or we don't have one, our gender if we want to experience, because experiencing the world as a woman is very different to experiencing world of men, depending on what kind of we're in as well, and what period you're incarnating to, you know, one hundred years ago, little tougher for women slightly, you know, and than it is today, and vice versa, and so on, depending on the skin color and all these kind of things.

So we choose these things.

So for people who are listening to like, wait a minute, you telling me that I chose my abusive family or I choose this abusive relationship that I'm in or I chose to be poor, and you know, and like why I would have never chosen this?

Can you kind of explain to people what that is, because it is it's very easy, like, oh, I chose to be rich in this lifetime.

Oh I chose to have a loving family.

That's a much easier pill to swallow.

Sure, but the more difficult ones is a little bit more difficult for people.

So can you kind of guide us in why we would choose things.

Speaker 2

Like that for people?

Yes, so let me say a couple of things to start.

Yes, you're right, we choose all these things.

Our parents are born in you know, Costa Rica, born in China, you know, whatever, we make those choices to two important parts to that one.

When we're planning alive, we have a support team.

We have a you might call it a guidance team to help us make decisions about an upcoming life.

And it's like, well, it used myself as an example.

Well, okay, Linda sul you know you're going to clean up this and that, and you know you've got this long list of what you're going to clean up.

You know, guides are saying, that's a lot to take on into a lifetime and so we The point is with that, we have support and we have input.

The other part is like, for example, choosing our parents.

And I know people go, why in the world would I choose This person is my mother, this person is my father.

Those souls have to agree as well.

So when we pair up, as you know, mom and child are dad and child or whatever, there is, there's an agreement on both sides.

Then when we come into body, both sides both people in this example have to be willing to work on it.

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Speaker 2

But I'll just say I'll give you a very short story, but something I realized about my own past lives and it explained a lot for me.

So let me see if I can make this story fairly short.

My mother on the other side, I never had a great cozy relationship with my mother.

It wasn't awful, but it also wasn't you know.

I think we all sometimes idealize how a mother should be, how a father should be, how a grandparents should be, and so you know, I had a relationship with my mother, but not something wondrous.

When Mom ended up my dad had passed.

When Mom ended up by herself and in her late eighties, and she wasn't doing very well, I had this compulsion to make sure she was cared for.

My logical brain said, you know, talking to myself, Linda, are you know are you kidding me?

You're gonna you're going to try to take care of this woman that you've really not gotten along with very well for you know, years and years.

But there was this compulsion, Alex And what ended up happening that long story made short, is we moved my mother closer to us into a residential you know, facility for for seniors, and I was responsible for making sure Mom was cared for until the end of her life.

She died in her early nineties.

But during that seven years that she lived close to me, I uncovered a past life, a passive I didn't know anything about.

Previously I was married.

Let me see by maybe simple I was married to a man of some role in the era of time in India when India was becoming independent from UK during the Nehru period.

I married a man that I was deeply in love with.

He had political aspirations.

He was about ten years older than I was.

And we had a daughter soon into the marriage.

After the daughter was born, he basically left the marriage because he had these political aspirations, and I was left with the daughter to raise her.

The daughter had lost her father, but I got completely bogged down with my grief over losing my husband, and I basically willed myself to die when our daughter was ten years old, so she was abandoned, no father, no mother.

I made the choice.

I basically willed myself to be ill, and I died when she was ten.

The soul of that past life daughter, I've learned, is the soul of my current life mother.

And when I realized that, it was like, oh, now I understand the compulsion to make sure Mom's cared for, and I was given the opportunity to clean up some karma.

Thankfully, I stuck with Mom.

I cared for her.

I actually held her until she took her last breath.

I didn't know any of that when I committed to move her closer to where I live.

Speaker 1

It's funny because my wife and I we obviously we've been together for a long long time now, and we're you know, we're just meant for each other.

We know that, and we as you are well aware.

We talked to a lot of psychics, a lot of channels, a lot of people in this world, so we get readings, you know, when people are here and things like that.

They're like, hey, do you know you guys have had a lot of past lives together.

And my wife goes, well, I must have been in a hurry in this last one, boy, because I guess there must have not been a whole lot of other options.

I guess all right, I'll go with Alex again.

I guess.

Speaker 2

Again again.

Speaker 1

There's many like it seems excessive how many times we've been together, like the thing, but it isn't.

But I love the way you put it that it's a it's a choice, not just because of you, but also someone else has to stand up and go.

Another soul has to go.

Yeah, I'll play that part.

That's a really important but I'll play that part for you.

Yes, I need I need to learn empathy.

I'm like, well, i'll play the opposite of that for you.

So you have something to be empathetic towards, or I need to get over a struggle, or you need to get over this fee, I need to get over this phobia.

I'll handle that for you and they and then and then in another lifetime you can help me.

And that's what a sole group is, correct.

Speaker 2

Right, It's like, I'll agree, I'll give me the script.

I'll read the script because I'm gonna help you.

But really we're gonna help each.

Speaker 1

Other exactly exactly.

So the thing in regards to free will is also very interesting because you were saying, hey, we're planning our lives that we have a council of elders, if you will somebody there to kind of kind of like, hey, you know, I want to take care of all of this.

I'm like, it's a lot for one human life.

You're gonna it's gonna be pretty brutal.

Let's let's pair this down a little bit.

All of that.

People a lot of times talk to me about it.

They're like, hey, well, if I have free will, then if I planned everything, what's the point of this?

If I planned a life and I'm gonna be this person and this person and this is gonna happen to me, and I'm gonna this job and I'm going to live in this place, Like why am I even doing?

Like what's the point of the free will?

The way I understand it is that we plan mile markers along the way, and then how you get to each mile markers truly up to you, and that's where the free will happens.

But you will be born a woman in this life.

You will be born in this country, you will be born to these parents.

These are things that you have no control over.

It's free will is concerned because you have that free will on the other side.

But how we deal with the situations, how you deal with the adversity or the happiness or all of that stuff, or the fame or the success or the lack of that is where the free will lies.

And that these kind of mile markers along the way are how you get there is really where your free will is.

Does that make sense to you?

Speaker 2

Yeah, that makes complete complete sense.

We you know, we choose our when we're in body, we choose our behavior.

We we either choose our emotions or we choose how to deal with our spontaneous emotions.

That it's all choice, and you're right, we come to these you know the old joke about you know the Yogi bear, the joke about when I come to a fork in the road.

Take it, well, we come to a fork in the road, and then we choose which way to go, which fork to take, and how to handle that that fork, and whether we cave in to anger or sadness or depression.

I mean, I know, obviously I've worked with clients doing this kind of work for around thirty years.

The stories are kind of amazing when we come upon someone who maybe we didn't get along very well with them last time, or maybe we did get along well with them last time, but this time they've agreed to appear as the nemesis, and what are we going to do about that nemesis?

Speaker 1

Now, this I wanted to kind of dive into about indicators of a strong connection to past lives.

What people can look out for as an indicator like, oh there's a connection here.

Now it's really easy, Like oh, she's the love of my life.

Oh he's the love of my life.

That's a real easy connection.

Speaker 2

Right.

Speaker 1

But I'll give you an example of something that happened to me and you kind of touched on it with your mom's story, that this compulsion to take care of her even though in this life it doesn't really make sense, like you didn't have the relationship to justify that feeling.

Correct, So for me.

There was a person that I met, and I mean, this person has done nothing wrong to me, has never said a bad word to my face at least, really have no connection to them other than distant family connection that they married into our into our you know, distant family.

I've met them twice.

Every time I meet them, I there is this this negative, just dark vibe to this person that is just like, oh, get this person away from me.

That they've done nothing wrong to me.

I found that.

So it's so weird.

They've done nothing wrong to me.

They've been pleasant to me for the most part, been pleasant to me other than their own normal neurosis and stuff like that, going out to dinner or something like that.

You see little things, but nothing to warrant this innate feeling I have towards this person.

And again, I haven't seen this person in probably eight years, but I've never forgotten it.

It was like, wow, this just it feels so toxic, it feels so dark, it feels like ugh.

And they done again, nothing to me, They have no relationship with me.

It's just those interactions.

Is that an indicator?

Speaker 2

I mean, I would hazard to say, you know, I always say to people, well, i'd rather learn this, you know, guide you in a regression and have you learned it through regression, because because that's you bringing the details forward intuitively.

But yeah, yes, but yes, when you have no explanation, you know, it's like the traveling somewhere and in current life you've never been there before, but you decide to go wherever, to Egypt, to France, to China to you know wherever, and you get there and there's a familiarity you can't explain logically.

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Speaker 2

You've been there before, you've I've even worked with people who arrive in a city, for example, and a number examples of this where they want to go fine, you know, they wake up the next morning after they've arrived in this strange city and maybe you know, countries strange to them, and they want to go to a museum or a church or you know, a historical site.

They don't need a map, they let their intuition guide them to the location.

They just go out on foot.

And I've worked with people who've told me legitimate stories of yeah, I walked right to that particular church.

Why because my past life memory told me, you know what street to turn on and how to get there.

Speaker 1

It's fascinating.

I want to talk about this.

Something happened to me and I'm curious to hear your thoughts about it.

We were traveling over the summer abroad and we were going to go to an area of the world where I know my DNA is actually from Okay.

And then talking to my family, they told me that all of my great grandparents and all that they're from this area.

Yeah, it's my I got two confirmations that this is where my lineage comes from.

Talk about generational karma.

In the second.

I was talking to a friend of mine who was a psychic, and I was telling her about my trip and she's like, oh, you you're gonna have to deal with some karma, some generational karma when you get there.

I forgot about it, didn't you, because it's just one of those things.

She's like, y yea, yeah, yea, yeah, I'll deal with it sure.

Day one of landing in that city, I sprained my ankle.

I sprained my ankle.

I've been walking all across Europe, yeah, and I sprained my ankle day one and then I had other other physical things that happened to me, illnesses and things like that that just brought me to my knees, brought me to It was painful, some of the most painful things I've gone through.

And I cleared it up and went through it.

But it was But then I remember my wife was there and she goes, didn't So and so say that you were gonna have a karma, deal with some karma here.

I was like, Yeah, I guess, I guess.

I guess she wasn't wrong.

So I've never felt that before.

I've never dealt with that before, like generational karma of a place that is your lineage.

Can you kind of dig into that a little bit?

And what do you think of that experience?

Speaker 2

Yeah?

Wow, Okay, Well, one thing that people don't think about is Okay, so here's my as you're talking about, here's my blood family, here's my you know, current life blood DNA, that blood DNA.

Let me see if I can think of a good example.

Usually our first degree relatives in current life most if not you know, many, if not most of them, our souls we've had lives with before.

So are the best way to put it?

And I can't talk without my hands.

Is that our blood DNA interacts with our soul DNA and it's all related.

It's all you know.

You may well be dealing with a past life issue when you arrived wherever you arrived, and yes, it's related to your twice great grandmother.

But that twice great grandmother is a soul you've had past lives with, So it isn't just blood, it's also soul.

Here's another quick piece I'll add in, and I know we're going to get into soul origin, so I'll clarify this even more specifically then.

But as a soul, when our soul is created, when we're a new soul, when we're a young soul, we belong to a small group of souls.

I like to call it a soul pod.

So we belong to a group of souls, usually at least about ten souls.

Those are the souls we have the most lives with, because those are the souls that we know well enough and we make agreements.

Okay, in this next lifetime, I'm going to be your angry step brother, and I'm going to push you to dig into your own strength and not let and not cave into me, because I'm angry, and we're going to make that agreement.

Because we've had past lives with each other, there's almost a trust level, and we're going to push each others and here's an important term, soul evolution.

We're going to push each other's soul evolution.

Speaker 1

Interesting.

So, so then let me ask you this when with generational karma, I've heard this from studying yogi's and ascending masters and things, that when a soul reaches a certain level of enlightenment, let's say that they can break the karma, they're done.

They're done here, they don't have to come back moving on to the next level.

Many do stay, like Jesus or Buddha, and they stay around to kind of guide humanity and help humanity.

I forgot that Bagavita, not the Bagadavita, but the Bogavita or something like that in the vein.

Speaker 2

Yeah, exactly, you're saying it right.

Speaker 1

They're staying behind to help other souls.

What I've heard in those studies is that when a soul reaches a certain level, it clears six generations forward and six generations back of karma for people in that soul family.

That is something that I heard, but That's one thing.

Secondly, can one person like I did in where I went to dealing with that generation?

I had to deal with generational karma.

I'd never been there before, I had nothing to do with it.

But I cleared generational karma.

So my generation, my kids, or other people coming down the line don't have to deal with what I had to go through in that space.

Does that make sense?

Can Can the soul clear karma for the general Like?

Can I clear like I don't want to Like, let's say I'm an alcoholic, I don't want to deal with addiction anymore.

I'm stopping it here.

It's stopping the the the movement of that karma generally, because if your grandfather was an alcoholic, your father was an alcoholic, you're an alcoholic.

You don't want your kid to be an alcoholic?

You stop it?

Can you do that?

Speaker 2

Let me answer that in two ways.

One would be you know, I say this and I don't mean this in any kind of arrogant way.

But for twenty eight to thirty years, I've been guiding soul level regression, usually multiple times a week.

That's how I've learned about what I know.

And I don't give the information to the client, they give the information to me, so I look for I mean, I learned from an original mentor as well many years ago.

I have not, And I think this is completely a valid statement.

I've never heard of a client telling me they automatically are healing karma for others.

But then I want to add in what I think is a possibility, and I think maybe likely is that you.

Okay, So let's just say you have two children, and they know the steps you took to go to wherever you went and to do what you could to heal karma.

You're serving as a teacher.

You're demonstrating, you're literally humanly demonstrating your commitment to clean up whatever it is you're cleaning up.

That is a teaching moment, you might say, a modeling moment for your children, your friends, your spouse, whoever it might be.

I think it's more exhibited in behavior than automatically snap the door closes and the karma's gone.

That's my take, simply because I've never heard any client tell me, Okay, I did this and I healed you know, six generations back and forth, generations since forward.

Speaker 1

But have you had a client who was a walking master, Well, so.

Speaker 2

There's that that I mean, that's a beautiful question.

Let me say a couple of things.

First, there's a lot okay, in my opinion, from learning through through years and years of guiding clients.

When we come into body, this I know to be true.

When we come into body, we bring a slice of our soul energy.

We bring a holographic it's almost like a pie.

We cut a slice of our soul pie, it's all holographic.

We bring that slice into our body at birth, and that's why we live and breathe.

When the umbilical cord is cut, the remainder of our soul energy is our higher self, is our soul that always resides in the higher realm.

The more evolved we are at the soul level, the greater our responsibility as a soul.

And at the soul level, we have roles, responsibilities, and commitments related to humanity, to aid humanity, doing what we can to serve as a guide to push humanity's healing.

And what often worries me, to be honest is I think there's a lot of I have a friend, a spiritual friend, that calls it matrix, and by that meaning what you might call the plastic matrix, the plastic perspective of spirituality.

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Speaker 2

That is something like, well, if I just love enough, I'll clean up all my karma or something like that.

Well, loving a lot is important, but also taking action to clean up your karma is also important.

So number one, when we if we reach the point that we no longer incarnate on earth, our soul continues to work in the higher realm.

So that's a really important piece of understanding.

And I work with clients all the time to connect with their higher self because your higher self holds all the wisdom, all the knowledge you've ever gained in any life, and your higher self is always one of your spiritual guides.

But it isn't like oh, poof, I'm done and I get to you know, eat pizza and drink beer up in the spiritual realm for you know, for the next two million years or whatever.

Speaker 1

So what do you think of what happened to me that in that country is what do you think that karma was?

If it's true that what the psychic told me was that I was dealing with generational karma and I was kind of taking a bullet for everybody.

Does that make sense in your experience?

Speaker 2

Yes, yes, I think that's completely plausible.

You're certainly cleaning it up for you and you're demonstrating, both literally as a human and energetically at the soul level, that you were willing to work on that karma, even if the karma has been handed down generation to generation.

Speaker 1

And you know, it was funny and I noticed this right away when it happened.

When I when I sprained my ankle, I was slammed downward onto one knee.

I was thought.

I thought, because when you fall, when you sprain an ankle, you fall, you're it's it's very kind of like cumbersome, you know, you you fall all that.

I've done that a thousand times in my life, but I've never had one happen where I was slammed down to one knee, almost like I was being brought down, humbled down, like in front of a king or a queen or something like that.

It was just it was literally first thing in the morning, we walked out of our hotel and we were walking down the street.

Four minutes five minutes into walking down the street, I sprained it.

It was fascinating, But that motion of being dropped it just in my mind the image that came up that was I was being humbled in front of a king or was being humbled in front because you bow you yes, yes means but it was just so profound.

Speaker 2

Well I think, I mean, I think it could mean one or both of these possibilities, that perhaps there was a past life tied to an authority figure, a leader, and you needed to, as you say, be humbled.

But I also think, and probably listeners, most listeners, I'm sure, kind of spiritually oriented, we at times have to be brought to our knees in order to work on things we need to work on.

It's like I'll get to that tomorrow, oh maybe six months from now, But it's when we're quote unquote and me too, I've had those experiences certainly for sure, when we're brought to our knees, we almost have no choice but to face it.

Speaker 1

Very true, very true.

Now, let's dive into soul origins because that's something I haven't really heard before with all my conversations.

Can you dive into sole origins and earthly incarnations like what those mean?

Speaker 2

Sure?

So let me say that you know often people think about past life regression, which, yes, that is a type of work that I do.

And when I guide clients to discover a past life, the past life is chosen at the soul level.

I don't choose the past life, and the guides and the higher self of the client choose the past life.

The primary work that I do is stepping in, guiding a client to step into a past life, discover the details of that life, move all the way to the final scene of the past life.

And then what makes the regression unique beyond past life is that then we work at the soul level of the client.

We follow that natural journey that happens every time we pass.

That slice of our soul leaves the body leaves the past life body that's no longer living, and that slice of our soul is almost like a a homing pigeon, knows how to elevate and reconstitute back into the higher self, and then the client learns about who they are as a soul.

So, given that, what I've learned over many years is that there are we might say, three types of souls that agree to come to earth, and I'll just kind of give the shortened version of explanation.

The bulk of humans are what I call what I've been told to call through regression, earth based souls.

And I always want to be sure people hear me because often people think I'm saying earth bound.

That's a different term, as a different spiritual term.

An earth based soul is a soul that was created to grow and evolve lifetime to lifetime, sort of over and over and over in body on Earth.

It's like we go to school here in this earthly laboratory, which, as everybody knows, can be challenging.

So a based soul primarily comes to Earth embodies on Earth, and the more evolved we are, and we can get into this a bit later if you want, but as we grow and evolved at higher levels, we agree to aid humanity, we agree to aid the evolution of humanity.

So that's an Earth based soul.

There are two other types of souls that may choose to come to Earth, and I've learned this from guiding so many regressions.

So, oh, I don't know.

Maybe seventeen eighteen years ago I started realizing that my regression practice was about fifty to sixty percent clients coming to me who were discovering in their regressions that they are a soul that did not originate basically in the spiritual energy of Earth.

That they are a soul that originated in the celestial realm outside of Earth.

They come if they choose to come into body on Earth.

They come from a healthy culture somewhere in the broader celestial realm.

It could be a planet, It could be a star system, It could be a non dance and interdimensional location.

It could be a spacecraft.

And this information has come through the regression.

I don't prompt it, the client tells me, I don't tell them.

So the second type of soul that can choose to come to Earth is what I call an interplanetary soul.

People can exchange that term.

It means the same as et, it means the same as star seed.

It again, is a soul that doesn't have a lot of Earth incarnation experience, but agrees to come to Earth because that soul comes to Earth from a healthy culture and they bring their healthy perspective to aid humanity.

A lot of interplanetary souls, well, let me say this differently.

Interplanetary souls always have some advanced skills because they bring those skills from elsewhere.

Inter souls often struggle with allergies, digestive disorders, chemical sensitivities, autoimmune disorders because they're not used to this human container and the air that we breathe and the food that we eat and that sort of thing.

But they're wise souls and we need them here.

So that's an interplanetary soul.

So Earth based souls interplanetary souls.

Last type of soul I work a lot with these kinds of clients are souls that come from the angelic realm.

So the angelic realm of souls, that group, that cadre of souls, that community directly serve source.

They directly serve whatever we want to call it, the divine great Spirit.

There's a Sanskrit term called Themanu.

But angelic souls are the emissaries of Source.

And when I work with those clients, the signature energy of those clients is love, compassion, non judgment, that higher order of behavior that that source exudes.

And so those are what I call angelic realm souls.

Speaker 1

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So let's dive into the angelic rom souls.

For a second, because I am a recovering Catholic, so as a recovering Catholic, angels are part of our lexicon for sure.

But to my understanding, angels don't ever incarnate according to the Catholic way of looking at things, that they don't come in and you know, become a become a person, their their their soul doesn't ever incarnate.

They're always there behind the scenes, they're always helping us.

Uh, but they don't incarnate.

So uh.

And then you know, certain movies like City of Angels or Wings of Desire come into mind, whereas an angel who really wants to you know, and there's many other ones, having the Worn Baby movie.

Speaker 2

Back in the day, Kevin can wait.

Speaker 1

Yeah, those kind of films about incarnation.

So how does that work?

How does an angel?

Now we're really getting into the deep end of the water, how does an angel soul work, Linda?

How does that work differently than a human soul like or an earthly balance old like?

How does that work differently?

And is it something that they can come in and come out of?

Do they have karma or are they just here as an ary?

How does that work?

Wow?

Speaker 2

Okay, good questions.

Well, okay, so many things.

This could be a three hour conversation, which of course it's not.

Okay, So think about the world.

You certainly know this.

If we look at Western spirituality, the religions based on Abraham, and we look at Eastern spirituality and philosophy, one thing we know basically is that Eastern all Eastern teachings teach reincarnation.

Yes, modern Western teachings, and there's a history to this which we could talk about if you want, but modern Western teachings by and large don't teach reincarnation.

Now, the Sufis of Islam do teach reincarnation, the Cobbilists of Judaism do teach reincarnation, but by and large there's kind of a split.

Well, who's right and who's wrong.

So I think the answer is humans start, I'll just say, watering down and almost writing their own understanding, writing their own rules.

We know you can study this on Google, and you can study this in history in the beginning of Christianity, which of course was Roman Catholicism in the beginning, in the beginning of Christianity before about and I always forget the date like three point forty something AD or what we if you take it out of religion ce Common era.

In three forty two, let's just say AD there was a meeting of the fathers of the Roman Catholic Church and Constantine at that time was the head of the Roman Catholic Church.

Up until three forty something AD, reincarnation was taught in Christianity.

Then it was struck out of the liturgy.

It was struck out of the teachings because humans decided to remove it.

So the point is, what choices do humans make in terms of teachings in this case angelic souls and what's valid.

I can tell you I have worked with clients who I know are angelic souls.

I didn't tell them.

They told me.

The reason we need angelic souls on the planet is because we don't have enough love and compassion on this planet, and we need this soul energy of pure high frequency.

We might say when I guide a regression, and you know people in many ways, I'm not saying everybody in the world needs to have a regression necessarily.

When I gide a regression, the client goes where they need to go.

And I have clients, actually a client yesterday, They go directly to their home location in the spiritual realm.

In this case, this particular client from yesterday went directly home, if you will, to where their higher self resides and began to describe to me where they come from.

That's how I learned about this.

I didn't tell them, they told me.

I have no doubt there are souls from the angelic realm that come to Earth now at a couple more pieces, just because listeners might be interested.

Jelic realm is headed by or coordinated by the archangels.

The lead archangel.

This has come forward in many regressions, and I'm not teaching religion.

I'm this is spirituality.

The lead archangel is Archangel Michael, but there are many other archangels.

Some of the archangels continue to incarnate.

Speaker 1

Some of the ch was an Enoch and angel, yes right, Metatron, Yeah exactly.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

So some of these souls I've studied ancient Egypt.

I've guided tours of ancient Egypt with a colleague of mine who lives in Luxol, who can tap into the portals of ancient Egypt.

In some cases, some of the archangels were incarnate in the development of the Egyptian dynasties.

That dynastic period had Egypt being the one of the three oldest civilizations on the planet.

Speaker 1

Current current ones at least.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker 1

Interesting, Okay, very interesting.

So let's let's dive into life between lives, which I find fascinating because we all have heard of past lives, maybe even heard of future lives, which we could dive into a little bit if you're just if you have any information about future lives.

But in between lives.

I've actually spoken to multiple people who've had They remember the moments in between lives.

So when they died, that whole part with the council of the Council of Elders, planning out the lives, making contracts, agreeing, they remember all of that.

What is your experience with your clients about in between lives?

Speaker 2

That's exactly the kind of regression that I guide.

So when the client leaves the past life, leaves the deaf scene of the past life, that slice of their soul, and they describe it in great detail.

Sometimes it's colors, sometimes it's intelligent communication.

The client experiences the return journey that literally happens every time we pass, but it happens in the regression.

The client experience is connecting with her higher self and in between lives is confusing and in some ways is a misnomer because if so, people will say to me, well, which in between lives am I going to in this regression?

You know, am I going to in between the life three hundred years ago and the life two hundred years ago?

Well, the bottom line is that our soul energy exists at all times, and so if we're if we're not incarnate, you could say there isn't you know, an in between life period.

But really a what I call a between lives soul regression is connecting to our soul level and our soul is always in.

Speaker 1

Spirit beautifully said, do spirit guides assist us in our soul evolution during lifetimes?

Because we talk about the spirit GUIDs before, but are they handed?

Like you know, we talk about guardian angels.

I've spoken about spirit guides like you have a team with you that's kind of guiding you through the whole process.

What is your experience with your work?

Speaker 2

We always have at least a spiritual guide.

We always have a primary spiritual guide.

That guide, you know, resides in the higher realm and is present and available to us at all times.

We forget to connect with that guide, but they don't leave us.

It's we need to be the ones to be conscious and open to ask for support and assistance, so we always have at least a spiritual guide.

An earth based soul has a lead spiritual guide, a senior, a primary spiritual guide, and usually a team of guides.

An interplanetary soul and an angelic realm soul are usually guided by their higher self.

And the reason for that is because for called IP interplanetary, for IP souls and angelic realm souls, they are so advanced that they're so evolved that their own soul their higher self.

When I'm working with an IP client or an Angelic realm client, their higher self is their primary guide.

Because their higher self is quite advanced, that's their guide or never without a guide.

Speaker 1

It's interesting.

I had had a guest on the show who took me not through a regression, but aid they guided me to basically meet my spirit council, which was fascinating.

And in there you would I just met He's like, who do you see in the townsle and I would see different energies and there was one that was very almost warlike, like he armor on and spikes out and looks scary, but he's the guy who was He's like, Oh, that's your that's kind of like the person who protects you.

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And I asked him, like, have you ever incarnated on Earth?

And the comment that came back was like, I would never, I would never degrade my soul in that manner to go downtown to her.

I just thought that was really funny, because this is a tough school.

This is this is the Oxford, this is the Harvord of Right of Soul schools.

This is a difficult place to be your experience as well.

Speaker 2

Oh totally, totally.

And you know, I've had clients who at times will say Earth was created as an experiment.

And so then I say to the client, you know, tell me more as an experiment tied to what And it's like, as an experiment to see if we can use our free will and use our consciousness to make healthy choices to move this community we call humanity.

To move humanity forward to a everybody gets their needs met.

We don't denigrate one group over the other.

We don't ignore the needs of animals, plants, minerals, we take care of this planet.

That and I'm not so sure.

I don't agree that that Earth and the fact we have free will is because are we going as we as incarnate souls?

Are we going to be conscious enough to make healthy choices on this planet?

I think that's our job.

Speaker 1

Very true.

Are we going to be able to make these choices?

Is the question, isn't it?

Now?

How do we become a little bit more sensitive to the messages or the guidance coming from the other side.

Because we all have gut instincts.

We all have the little Oh I felt it in my stomach, I get butterflies, make a left instead of a right.

We kind of got those things.

Everyone feels that at one point or another.

Generally, how can we become more sensitive to more guidance from the other side?

So many of us feel lost.

You know, it's like you said, it's not easy.

You know, we need some cliff notes down here for this college.

We need some sheet every once in a while because it gets a little gets a little hairy down here.

So how come a little bit more sensitive to that guidance?

Speaker 2

Yeah, I mean I would say a couple of things, Alex.

You know, when you talk about cliff notes, it's like the example you gave when you were traveling and you know you sprained your ankle and you know, fell to your knees.

The cliff notes are this is not you know that there's a book from long ago which you probably know that.

This is not bad things happening to a good person, right, this is uh, listen up, this is pay it, you know, like a great big sign, pay attention.

You're not ill or being hurt for no reason.

What is the purpose of what's going on?

So first of all, trusting and that's easy to say, but trusting what comes forward is one answer.

And then the other is and you know this as well, if not better than I do.

As humans, we're not taught how to tap into our intuition.

We're not taught to trust it.

We're not taught how it works.

So I say to people, and I'll just say this briefly, but ask yourself, people that are listening, how am I most often intuitive?

Do I get pictures in my mind?

I don't know where they came from, but I ignore them?

Or you know, imagery or what we technically call clairvoyance.

So am I imagery based with my intuition, eyes closed, eyes open, do I get pictures?

Am I very sensitive and pick up on emotions?

Emotions of someone else, emotions of you wake up in the morning and suddenly you feel sad or anxious, and you know, you go to the new and you see, oh, there was an earthquake halfway around the world, and you're if you're Clare sentient, you're picking up on the emotions of those people that are going through that incident.

So are you more emotion based with your intuition?

Is it your body that picks up sensation?

Some of us get like a minor headache and it's like, oh, that's the sign of the earthquake that happened halfway around the globe, or that's the sign of your closest friend is having a challenging day or they're ill or something like that.

So are we Claire so madic?

Or this is really common for me?

I can be very mental.

My guides talk to me through my thoughts.

They talk to me through a sense of knowing, and as humans, we can just cast that aside and say, oh, I just made that up in my head.

But oftentimes no, we didn't make that up in our head.

We're Claire cognitive.

So everyone ask yourself, how do you tend to be intuitive and then trust it?

Speaker 1

That leads into my next question is how can you tell the difference between your imagination or true spiritual contact?

In other words, because that perfect example I gave you of my my, my counsel of Elders, I could have made that up, but it doesn't like I wasn't like things that were popping into my head were not that.

I kind of felt that this was something different.

But for many people who might not have that training or that understanding or that feeling that like, no, this seems real, how can you tell between something that's made up and something's not.

And I imagine in your work, you're like you're sitting with someone, I'm like, I'm in Atlantis.

That's right, I'm in Atlantis.

I'm riding a giant crystal.

You know, Like, how do you know they're that's just making it up from what they've read or is this truly a past life regression?

Speaker 2

Yeah?

Yeah, yeah, I mean I train people to guide regression.

So there are various things you look for.

One, how quickly the information comes forward, This sort of sudden spontaneity of information that comes forward where basically you basically you didn't have time enough to ponder it and think about it.

It's just here's an image and it's just there.

And or the spontaneity of emotions.

When I'm guiding regression, the client's giving me details, they're moving along, they're you know, pretty balanced emotionally, and suddenly they pause and suddenly they're scared, suddenly they're sad, suddenly they're tearing up.

It just comes on with no explanation because it's real and or level of detail, level of specificity.

Here's a location, it's in the spiritual realm.

But they can describe what's being said to them.

They can describe the imagery in minute detail.

They're not you know, famous artists, they're not famous writers.

But it all and this makes more sense for people, you know, beginning to guide clients.

But the pieces have to fit together, interviewing the client has to fit with what comes forward.

And to be honest, regression is a bit of a science in the sense that certain colors mean certain things, certain images mean certain things.

It's almost like this is not mediumship or channeling.

But I think most of us know if we've ever been to a channel or a medium.

Each capable channel or medium has their characteristic skills.

It's like, if they see pink, it means this.

If they see a gold door, it means that.

It's like it all has to fit together.

So there are all kinds of indications of validity.

Speaker 1

Perfect example, now, with the world the way it's going right now, it seems chaotic systems are breaking down, and I've spoken about all of that at nauseum on the show.

From your point of view, as as past lives and karma, it seems that humanity as a collective is going through an awakening.

There's no question that that's happening.

We are evolving, and we've probably evolved more in the last one hundred years than we have in the last thousand.

It's sped up, not only technologically, but also just on a spiritual level.

I just see it.

We all kind of see it.

This conversation wouldn't have been possible fifteen twenty years ago.

Nobody would have been watching, right.

So these things are happening.

But with all the things that are happening outside right now that it seems like everything's going crazy, and there's wars, and there's this or that what is it?

What is humanity dealing with karmically?

And is that a thing?

Are we, like, you know, dealing with what we are we sowing what we reaped, you know, with the Earth, with the planet, with each other, all of these things.

What did your take on it?

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Speaker 2

Well, I mean, I certainly think we're being shown, we as humans.

We're being shown all kinds of examples of what we as humanity have not yet accomplished that I think was intended in the beginning of this culture called humanity.

But we've not yet accomplished.

And you know, it's hard to make it simple, except that I think one simple way to look at it is are we going to be self serving?

Are we going to be oh, this is all about me, me, me and my needs and my need for power or control or money or belongings or you know, whatever it might be.

Or am I going to care about you know, you know, my fellow member of humanity, you know, what what are we learning about?

Do we get drawn into uh misrepresentation of what some leaders going to accomplish?

You know, I'll just give a quick example we do not need to walk way down this road.

But you know, supposedly last week, based on the news, there was going to be a meeting of the leaders of three countries and they were going to solve the sovereignty sovereignty or lack of sovereignty.

Obviously I'm talking about US, Russia and Ukraine.

Thus far, I don't see any eating that's gonna happen.

Now, who knows.

I don't have a crystal ball.

But so what self serving and what is for the benefit of all people?

Speaker 1

Before we close up?

Doctor Backman, you've done so many past live regressions, I have to ask how far back have you gotten?

Have you been to Atlantis?

Have you been to Lamaria?

Have you been to something else?

What?

What are the what are the most interesting stories that you have heard about?

How far back we go?

Speaker 2

Mm?

Well, I've certainly regressed clients who went to the cultures of Lamia and Atlantis.

So and and what I love about the work that I do is I learned something every single time.

But I've regressed clients back to prehistoric times when people lived in caves and sort of lived hand to mouth and it was very simple culture.

So, because I also work with interplanetary souls, I learned about the development of planets and star systems and some of the cultures in these locations.

So it's hard to say how far back, you know, it's hard to you know, put a number on it, because we're talking about souls and we're talking about life here on Earth, but we're also talking about life elsewhere.

Speaker 1

So what out of all of the past life aggressions that you've seen, which is the one which is a story, which is the past life that you were just like, oh my this this blew me out of the water.

You know, was it Atlantis?

Was it on another planetary system?

Was it another culture?

Like what was the one that really just oh my god, this isn't amazing.

Speaker 2

You know, there are many, but what occurs to me Alex to share is my own experience about six eight months ago co leading a group to Egypt and being in the King's Chamber in the Great Pyramid.

And a lot of people talk about the King's chamber in the Great Pyramid.

Our group had a two hour private visit and getting in getting into the King's chamber is through a very narrow shaft.

It is not I don't know if you've been there or not, but you know, you have to pay attention to where you're putting your feet, you have to be bent over, and there's some narrow spaces, and so it's a commitment, is my point, to do that.

But once you come into the King's Chamber, it is huge and vaulted and a sizable stone, open stone room with a psychophagus that is empty.

But the energy in that room, the initiatory, you might say, yeah, the best way to put it would be a portal to a higher connection is profound.

And for many of our group, they were spontaneously remembering past lives.

Many were being pushed to make changes in their life because we have these locations on the planet that are, you know, fairly old and sin on old.

Not just the structure, yes, the pyramid is an old structure, but sin on land that was intended for that structure.

We're tapping into wisdom that has existed for longer than we probably know.

So I found that to be an amazing both individual experience for me, but group experience.

Speaker 1

Beautiful story.

And then I'm gonna ask you a few questions.

Ask all my guests, what is your definition of living a fulfilled life?

Speaker 2

Hmm boy, good question.

Living alfilled life, I would say, would be following the sole agreements I made for current life, and I would tag onto that and not being afraid of the tough stuff, because the tough stuff, the emotions that are tough, the maybe health issues or people that are tough.

Look for what the purpose is and stick with it, and that would be living a fulfilled life.

Speaker 1

If you had a chance to go back in time and speak to little Linda, what advice would you give her?

Speaker 2

Yeah, I mean I feel it.

Let me see if I can put words to it.

You know, I would say to little Linda, you may think you're just one person in a sea of many, many people on the planet.

Hold fast to believing in yourself, hold fast to knowing you have not a purpose but purposes and that will be shown to you.

Don't don't give up.

Speaker 1

And what advice would little Linda give you today?

Speaker 2

That disconnect Linda?

Little Linda would say to today's Linda, that disconnect you had with a couple of close loved ones when you were when you were a child is also purposeful and again, if you stick with it and trust, you'll learn the meaning and it will help you to grow.

Speaker 1

How do you define God or Source or the.

Speaker 2

Divine that high frequency energy Source comes forward at times in regression.

Source is a highly evolved group soul the degreed to do what they could to guide humanity on our love, on our compassion.

And know that even you, as a single soul is important and can serve the aiding of humanity with the guidance of Source.

Speaker 1

What is love?

Speaker 2

Love is purity.

Love is what Source desires for us to have for ourself and for all other living things.

Speaker 1

If you could ask God or Source one question, what would it be?

Speaker 2

You know, it's interesting, Alex when you asked that, the first thought is what do I need to be doing that I'm not doing?

And then quickly I sort of renig on that question because don't feel like the right question, And I would just say support me and I will do my very best to make the best human and soul level decisions I can.

Speaker 1

And what is the ultimate purpose of life.

Speaker 2

To grow and evolve the community of humanity?

Speaker 1

Beautiful answer?

And where can people find out more about you and the amazing work you're doing.

Speaker 2

My website and so web address is raven.

Raven like the bird are a ve n heart like the Heart in your Chest Center Ravenheartcenter dot com.

Speaker 1

Great, and everything's there, your books and everything else you have.

Speaker 2

Yeah, absolutely, And.

Speaker 1

Do you have any parting messages for the audience.

Speaker 2

Trust your gut, trust your intuition and your guidance, and know that you always have support and guidance from a spiritual guide.

Speaker 1

Linda, it has been such a pleasure talking to you.

I feel like I've gone through my own past life regression in this conversation, but I appreciate I appreciate you and everything you're doing to help awaken humanity and this planet.

Speaker 2

So thank you again, Thank you Alex for having me.

It's been a pleasure.

Speaker 1

I want to thank Linda so much for coming on the show and sharing her knowledge of wisdom with all of us.

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