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[SPEAKER_03]: Volt Rollers and Wastelanders welcome back.

[SPEAKER_03]: This is our wrap up for our rewatch of season one of the follow-up TV show.

[SPEAKER_03]: We were talking about episode eight, the beginning.

[SPEAKER_03]: John is back with me again and if you are just tuning in for this one episode, he's the guy behind the 40K Lord cast and he's my host for Retro Recall.

[SPEAKER_03]: John, welcome back.

[SPEAKER_00]: Hey guys, also why did you just pick this one episode?

[SPEAKER_00]: Listen to my voice is on all of them and I've a lovely voice I'm listening to me a multiple times.

[SPEAKER_03]: There you go.

[SPEAKER_03]: Mostly for his voice, but also, hey, if you're if you're checking out season two and you want some insight into some of the stuff and just to kind of remember what was going on Go back and listen through all the episodes that we've done because we've got some different perspectives than when we first watched them and you might too.

[SPEAKER_03]: So it's part of the fun, right?

[SPEAKER_03]: but here let's get into episode eight because we've got a lot to go through a lot of scenes flipping back and forth there's I mean this episode just goes it just gets going and it goes like a vertebraid with max misinit because that's the scene we're about to talk about and uh he's in the vertebraid he's remembering Lucy they're flying to Philly the radio says and I had to stop and rewind in order to listen to this but there's radio chatter behind him and [SPEAKER_03]: meaning that basically they've taken over Philly and killed most of the people there.

[SPEAKER_03]: And then Maximus is now in a scene where he's presenting the head to Elder Quintus.

[SPEAKER_03]: And Quintus, of course, is a shrewd fellow.

[SPEAKER_03]: And he's like, you lied to me then, just as you lied to me now, realizing it's not the same head.

[SPEAKER_03]: Mostly because Maximus is, you know, he was lying.

[SPEAKER_03]: He was tight as he was lying about bringing the head.

[SPEAKER_03]: He just doesn't trust him at this point.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I'll be this is this opening I'm not thrilled with not the show's bad.

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't like evil brotherhood I'm fine with flawed brotherhood, but this one felt a little bit too much like evil brotherhood.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and I think there's a reason for it though.

[SPEAKER_03]: because this group does not represent the majority of the brotherhood and that starts to play out right like Dane shows up admits that Dane caused the injury and it wasn't Maximus's fault basically helps him back up and then we cut to a scene where Quintus is walking out of the darkness to talk to Maximus tell me that the setting is not intentional that this is [SPEAKER_03]: Shady character who's leading a dark and very selfish brotherhood is now walking out of the darkness to talk with Maximus about what's going on, right?

[SPEAKER_00]: Like yeah It's just mayor.

[SPEAKER_00]: That's kind of my officialness.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you see like if there's a element of and this is again more Me playing the early games Where the brotherhood and they do actually address this and even in the fall even we get to fall out for the brotherhood still are [SPEAKER_00]: mostly positive.

[SPEAKER_00]: I know we're getting closer for those.

[SPEAKER_03]: It starts to shift from three and they're very specific agenda to kill everything that's not human and all of that stuff gets pretty dark and four.

[SPEAKER_03]: So I feel like it depends on the type of, well, the game and it depends on who's leading the brotherhood and the moral pendulum kind of leans one way or another.

[SPEAKER_03]: depending on what's going on.

[SPEAKER_03]: So you've definitely got that throughout the games, but I definitely, I too enjoy a brotherhood that seems to be a little bit more morally upstanding and a little bit more welcoming to cooperation and outsiders and those kinds of things, but they aren't always.

[SPEAKER_00]: No, no.

[SPEAKER_00]: That's what we're seeing here.

[SPEAKER_00]: And we get a nice explanation that in effect, the brotherhood, they're not used to be a great organization.

[SPEAKER_00]: They had the power to rule the wasteland.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I have to quote right here.

[SPEAKER_03]: Here.

[SPEAKER_03]: This is the exact quote.

[SPEAKER_03]: The brotherhood has lost as this is Quintus talking.

[SPEAKER_03]: The brotherhood has lost its way.

[SPEAKER_03]: We used to rule the wasteland, but power is taken not given, unless and you have learned talking to Maximus.

[SPEAKER_03]: You and I, we will take power and with it, we will start a new brotherhood.

[SPEAKER_03]: me as the head and the likes of you as it's sword.

[SPEAKER_03]: Now this tells me if you think first of all they are breaking from the rest of the brotherhood which really sets up the stuff that we've seen in the trailers for season two of some sort of internal conflict.

[SPEAKER_03]: He is trying to break away from the main structure and create a new brotherhood under his own ideas and his ideology.

[SPEAKER_03]: But then he also he doesn't say you Maximus will be my sword.

[SPEAKER_03]: He says the likes of you [SPEAKER_03]: Meaning that Maximus himself does not have a specific place in this.

[SPEAKER_03]: He is a tool to be used just like the suits of armor and everything else that they've been acquired.

[SPEAKER_00]: And that's the whole thing with this, is that this group of brotherhood and we saw it, they're cruel.

[SPEAKER_00]: We saw this in the very first episode.

[SPEAKER_00]: We saw it with actual Knight Titus.

[SPEAKER_00]: We've seen there is a cruelty with this.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's very well said.

[SPEAKER_00]: Shitty.

[SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[SPEAKER_03]: Why are they so cruel?

[SPEAKER_03]: I think that's the difference between them and different groups.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_03]: It's like even Max and's group in four isn't cruel the way that this group is cruel.

[SPEAKER_03]: You might have some dark intentions, but they treat their members well.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: That's the, the, the, the Max's group is brutal.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

[SPEAKER_00]: But they are not cruel.

[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[SPEAKER_00]: That's the, that's the difference.

[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, again, let's do another side of them, which case, my new crew.

[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_03]: Have you ever heard of me in the last one?

[SPEAKER_03]: And then they're going to be cool to you.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's absolutely.

[SPEAKER_03]: Um, but then the scene wraps up with a line.

[SPEAKER_03]: Your entire life you've been looking for a home, build one with me.

[SPEAKER_03]: This both implies that.

[SPEAKER_03]: It just shows us that Quintus is trying to lure him in for the base on the things that he knows that he wants.

[SPEAKER_03]: But it also reconfirms one of Maximus's most motivating factors is the fact that he still doesn't feel like he truly belongs anywhere.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, it's Emperor Palpenteen, but yeah, that's what this is meant.

[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, and then we get to the scene, obviously, as he's saying this of Maximus staring up at the brotherhood soldier in the power.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm a who saved him when he was in shady sands and as a child.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so then we get to Lucy.

[SPEAKER_03]: She's entering the observatory.

[SPEAKER_03]: This is where we know Moldeva is due to scenes in the previous episode That she walks through fields of corn and this is exactly like her memories of being a child with her mother Which reconfirms that they were out here.

[SPEAKER_03]: They used to be here in this very location.

[SPEAKER_03]: She just didn't know it because she was too little [SPEAKER_03]: And she notices some things, these people are living peacefully, there are humans and ghouls living together.

[SPEAKER_03]: This feels organized.

[SPEAKER_03]: This is way more organized and peaceful than Philly was, or any of the other places that she's been except for maybe Vault 4.

[SPEAKER_03]: And it's kind of, you can see it in her face.

[SPEAKER_03]: It floors her that this can exist on the surface.

[SPEAKER_00]: And what was interesting is, one of the ghouls is just won't stop staring at her, which is another hint of like, it's, is it her vault uniform?

[SPEAKER_00]: Or is it her?

[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[SPEAKER_00]: A better answer on that in a second.

[SPEAKER_03]: Right, are they recognizing her from when she was little?

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's a good question.

[SPEAKER_00]: Now, but now we start getting, we talked about the last episode, the hot flashes.

[SPEAKER_00]: That's right, hot flashes, the quick flashes.

[SPEAKER_00]: There we go.

[SPEAKER_00]: The quick flashes where, you know, in most of the episodes prior, you would sit on one scene for a few minutes or longer, maybe up to ten minutes.

[SPEAKER_00]: Now, where he starts flipping scenes because now really, and he makes you almost lean forward in your chair because like, okay, a lot's about to happen.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, the pace is increasing.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, increasing.

[SPEAKER_00]: to what he was describing, Lucy walks into the observatory.

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think she says a word.

[SPEAKER_00]: No.

[SPEAKER_00]: And then it cuts.

[SPEAKER_03]: It's just a set up scene that you would expect before a conversation and the end we don't get it.

[SPEAKER_00]: It was not, yeah, they just cuts for the goal.

[SPEAKER_00]: Who's also heading there in front of a very good sunset, says Burilla's side.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

[SPEAKER_00]: I did love that little moment.

[SPEAKER_00]: And again.

[SPEAKER_03]: nothing just yeah that it cuts again and he's remembering his trip right to Valtek and then so this is the scene where he pulls up in his fancy car he's dropping barb off to her meeting after messing up her oil change.

[SPEAKER_03]: She says most guys with rides this nice would be afraid to get their hands dirty.

[SPEAKER_03]: This is implying two things.

[SPEAKER_03]: One Cooper is very capable.

[SPEAKER_03]: He's a very capable individual, he changes his own oil, he doesn't need to, he's a fancy Hollywood star.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yet he still does, he grip on a farm, he likes to do things himself.

[SPEAKER_03]: Also, he messed it up on purpose in order to drive her to the office.

[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.

[SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[SPEAKER_03]: He's the kind of guy who could do an oil change.

[SPEAKER_03]: He didn't make a mistake.

[SPEAKER_03]: He's there on purpose.

[SPEAKER_03]: Bud pulls up.

[SPEAKER_03]: Also pretty hard to mess up an oil change so that you break a car.

[SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[SPEAKER_03]: And so maybe she doesn't know how cars work and so he uses this as an excuse or whatever.

[SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[SPEAKER_03]: So Bud pulls up in his little dinky convertible compared to his.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_03]: And he talks about Bud's buds, his plan to keep [SPEAKER_03]: moving centuries into the future, this idea to wait them out, why would Valtek risk ending the world in their own safety?

[SPEAKER_03]: The answer to this is because they have vaults and cryogenic technology which plays into his idea of [SPEAKER_03]: Well, if we just wait out the competition, we have the tech to do so, let's utilize that, which makes sense for many business standpoint, for many corporate standpoint.

[SPEAKER_03]: You look at the things that you have and you go, how do we utilize what we have and what the competition doesn't have in order to beat the competition.

[SPEAKER_03]: So his genius plan is we bring the end of the world, we hold up in cryogenic chambers and we just wait everyone out.

[SPEAKER_00]: Which plan makes no sense?

[SPEAKER_00]: The reality perfectly honest, like it makes no sense to me.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like, and even Dr.

House calls, I Dr.

House, sorry, Mr.

House calls it out.

[SPEAKER_00]: Actually, we're going to get that scene a little bit here.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, it just, I digress.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so the Pippoys act, if you can bar bench with the Pippoys act and up, she goes inside Cooper can't hear the clear signal, so he has to go in the building.

[SPEAKER_03]: Then we get the Fallout logo.

[SPEAKER_03]: This is the only logo that's just a black and white screen like on an old TV monitor.

[SPEAKER_03]: Then we're back to Lucy, she's meeting with Moldaver, and she sees her father, he's all locked up.

[SPEAKER_03]: Moldaver says welcome.

[SPEAKER_03]: We've got the glimpse at this really falling apart [SPEAKER_00]: She's strapped in, she's strapped in, she's missing one arm and she's strapped into the chair.

[SPEAKER_03]: But she doesn't seem to be trying to get out.

[SPEAKER_03]: She seems like, like, okay, I'm stuck here and she's not fighting it.

[SPEAKER_03]: But she also doesn't appear safe either at the same time.

[SPEAKER_03]: That's kind of this balance going on.

[SPEAKER_00]: The mold neighbor has not aged a day is the important piece from the scene we saw last episode.

[SPEAKER_03]: Or maybe it's hard to tell if it's just aware from being out in the wasteland or if it's age.

[SPEAKER_03]: She does look to my eyes she looks a little bit older, but that might just be the fact that we saw her in the past with makeup and a nice fancy outfit and her hair.

[SPEAKER_03]: You know, so like.

[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's it's always tough aging and actors and actresses because you're like, like, you know, do we just make them have me great?

[SPEAKER_00]: Basically, it might be, if they don't have gray hair, I assume that the attempt to us to have them not be aged.

[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I'm in my mid 40s.

[SPEAKER_00]: I have all the gray hair.

[SPEAKER_00]: So it doesn't, you know.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, and I've got less gray hair than you do, but, you know, people sometimes often mistake me for being younger than I am, but, yeah, it's hard to tell, right?

[SPEAKER_03]: It's, that's kind of the point.

[SPEAKER_03]: So Lucy was going to blow everyone up, she says I was going to blow everyone up, but that's not how it was raised.

[SPEAKER_03]: She was going to bring in a grenade or something, stick it in the head.

[SPEAKER_03]: But let's keep things civil.

[SPEAKER_03]: Now, please give me my dad back, right?

[SPEAKER_03]: So she's there for my dad.

[SPEAKER_03]: She's like, this is just what I'm going to do.

[SPEAKER_03]: Moldever takes the cold fusion out of the heads neck and tells her, she basically says, you don't realize who your father really was.

[SPEAKER_03]: He wasn't born in a vault.

[SPEAKER_03]: Like, there's things that you don't know.

[SPEAKER_03]: and seen, quick and seen, transition to norm in Vault 31, yep, he frees the robe of a little mini robe of brain from being stuck behind a broom.

[SPEAKER_00]: And the role of brain is hilarious because it's it's basically giving itself a pep talk as it was a mop because it was stuck in the house of mop.

[SPEAKER_00]: This is this way to freedom and then get stuck.

[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, not that one, not that one, not that one.

[SPEAKER_00]: It was a really nice, it reminded me a lot of the big M.T.

[SPEAKER_00]: And in New Vegas, some of the Vegas, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

[SPEAKER_00]: That might be of some of the robots in the Robo brains.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, yes, and it's bud, it's bud's brain using this robot.

[SPEAKER_03]: Why do you look great for both of us?

[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if you've volunteered to put his brain in a robot or something happened and that's just how we ended up.

[SPEAKER_03]: I guess we don't know.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, and again, it's showing us how this genius of idea of his is really working out because he's now a little robot stuck behind him up, right?

[SPEAKER_03]: Like it puts it in perspective.

[SPEAKER_03]: Like he thinks he's a genius, but yeah, look, look what he's now relegated to.

[SPEAKER_03]: And then he tries to poke him with a syringe, and just totally misses, nor just side steps it.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's a great idea, because he recognizes that Norm is not supposed to be there.

[SPEAKER_00]: And Norm turns to him and says, what is his place?

[SPEAKER_00]: And he's got his syringe, he says, I won't answer your questions unless you let me, unless you let me inject you with this.

[SPEAKER_00]: He really just, Norm just walks away.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he just kind of barely looks at him with just steps to the side.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and then he says initiate protocol 53 I don't know what that is a reference to but I feel like it has to be a reference to something or they just picked a random number Not really sure and then he's like don't go in there [SPEAKER_03]: And then it jumps to the next scene, Cooper, back in the past, at Vault Tech, they're having the big meeting, and he's like spying in with his listening device, right?

[SPEAKER_03]: The woman at the desk says, don't mind if I bring Henry in, he's a big fan.

[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, you got, you got some insight.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so, so what it was was I fault Vault 53 was a failed vault.

[SPEAKER_00]: And so it's a term in the game.

[SPEAKER_00]: So an experiment where the experiment was meant to break down periodically.

[SPEAKER_00]: That's Vault 3.

[SPEAKER_03]: 53 interesting.

[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, so there's a reference there.

[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_03]: I thought maybe and then I once just wasn't sure, but he's doing the research on this file.

[SPEAKER_03]: Look at that.

[SPEAKER_03]: Good job.

[SPEAKER_03]: So then Cooper's listening to the meeting and we have bud saying, talking about this group of like-minded corporations and sitting at the table we have big M.T.

[SPEAKER_03]: RepCon, West Tech and Rob Co.

[SPEAKER_03]: These are all representatives of those businesses, signs of intending to drop the bombs are basically there are signs that vault tech is probably planning to drop the bombs because there's a line where they say peace agreements have set us back.

[SPEAKER_03]: meetings.

[SPEAKER_03]: There hope was that war would happen so that the vaults would get used.

[SPEAKER_03]: And so they didn't have to do anything to make that happen.

[SPEAKER_03]: But now there's peace agreements.

[SPEAKER_03]: And then there's this whole discussion about what it would be like to be up on the surface.

[SPEAKER_03]: This is what we talked about in the last episode where they are implying that people the surface dwellers are going to be lesser than human.

[SPEAKER_03]: There's a lot of that kind of talk going on.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so West heck is very concerned about about that.

[SPEAKER_00]: You also get a lot of, I do like it.

[SPEAKER_00]: I believe it was Mr.

House basically calls them out.

[SPEAKER_00]: And it's like, well, a bunch of rats inside of a maze will eat themselves.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, this is the quote I got back with too.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he says, who's to say your rats, meaning lab rats in the vault?

[SPEAKER_03]: because they'll be experimented on are going to survive better than those animals on the surface.

[SPEAKER_03]: Animals is traditionally language used to dehumanize people you don't like, right?

[SPEAKER_03]: Before that, we have what is the ultimate weapon of mass destruction?

[SPEAKER_03]: The question is post by bud, right?

[SPEAKER_03]: And Cooper responds time at the same time bud does.

[SPEAKER_03]: And then that's when he says, that's how we'll win the game of capitalism by out-leaving our competitors, which confirms the things that they discussed at the cars.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_03]: You can see that the other corporations here are doubtful of the plan.

[SPEAKER_03]: Barb looks at the character and the shadows above.

[SPEAKER_03]: This is interesting.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that's a key piece here.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

[SPEAKER_00]: This is the whole question because Barb is there with bud.

[SPEAKER_00]: And you said it well.

[SPEAKER_00]: It was the last episode that bud's kind of adult.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like, he's not, he's not this overly intelligent person.

[SPEAKER_00]: And so the question is, how can he be there?

[SPEAKER_00]: And I think my thinking here is that what we're getting is Bud is a figurehead.

[SPEAKER_00]: Bud is not until just why he ends up being the brain attached to a roomba later on.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, but you have to search.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, bud.

[SPEAKER_00]: is really just doing the actions of someone else, cough, cough, on-clave, who are really behind the shadowing the man up in the rafters, right?

[SPEAKER_00]: Whereas Barb actually knows who that person is.

[SPEAKER_00]: And so she looks, so it happens as the rooms getting aggressive, and people are kind of saying, this idea you have is stupid.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like right, like this is a dumb, why would we ever invest in this?

[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to have peace, also like, why would I invest basically in the end of the world?

[SPEAKER_00]: and Cooper is rooting for his wife.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he's hoping she's going to bring some semblance of sense to this and that she will be a voice of reason and morality in this in this scenario, and then she says how to provide a better future for our children, which makes us go, okay, that seems like a good motivation, but what does that actually mean?

[SPEAKER_03]: I think that you're onto something here as well.

[SPEAKER_03]: When you look at the there aren't named tags on the table, there are labels for the businesses [SPEAKER_03]: and that implies that that person for all of these other businesses began to repconment when we know those are the leaders of these businesses.

[SPEAKER_03]: We know that the people who are sitting behind the vault tech labels are bud and barb.

[SPEAKER_03]: but they both aren't the CEO, right?

[SPEAKER_03]: In fact, we don't know what their actual titles are.

[SPEAKER_03]: Are they just representatives?

[SPEAKER_03]: Is but a sales guy?

[SPEAKER_03]: And she's there because she's representing other interests like what is going on, right?

[SPEAKER_00]: Because she got a promotion.

[SPEAKER_00]: They're both there, but they're at best senior VPs.

[SPEAKER_00]: Something.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

[SPEAKER_00]: Right, whereas the other people there, Mr.

House is there.

[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, we know, because at the rest of them, we don't really know the people, the West Tech, Big M.T.

[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I've got their names later on, because here's a trick.

[SPEAKER_03]: If you pause the show on Amazon, you can see what the name of the actor and character is.

[SPEAKER_03]: So, I'll bring those up in a little bit.

[SPEAKER_03]: But so, we know that the assumption is that they are all in leadership, which is, [SPEAKER_03]: right pretty accurate but i think what we're also seeing is that barben but are not actually the leaders of they're they're not the person behind the scenes there's somebody else and maybe that's probably vault tech it's probably a CEO who's also an on-clave or you know it's definitely vault tech but it's definitely also on-clave i would think [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm listening to me it's on clay.

[SPEAKER_00]: I've always assumed that we got the real the on clay in Baltic world together at some point.

[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, absolutely.

[SPEAKER_03]: There are cross connections between all these different people and the allegiance.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's where we have them.

[SPEAKER_00]: But next, and what thing that Barb says is interesting here, is because we're going to the path, of course, we've diverted a little bit.

[SPEAKER_00]: But she talks about, like, I think about my family.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

[SPEAKER_00]: And then she's, but then she says, so we need to hedge our bets as what she says.

[SPEAKER_00]: So it's coming down the positive then she flips back.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, and that's that's where it stops there because we're going to come back to like enjoy that's how right yeah and then we flip back to norm I believe the norm in the vault third one.

[SPEAKER_03]: He says where's the rest of the vault it's just a bunch of cryo chambers and but says these are buds buds.

[SPEAKER_03]: uh we we get the line America outsourced our survival of this country to the private sector but it would have been insane to keep a failed nation alive so we kept vaultech alive instead which is like [SPEAKER_03]: One of the themes that plays throughout Fallout and through other shows and things like this is this idea and you see this a lot in New Vegas.

[SPEAKER_03]: This idea that Democracy failed in fact this is one one of the things houses real big about is like democracy failed and so therefore we need a better system [SPEAKER_03]: But the thing that they don't mention at any time in these games where they mention the failure of democracy, or the fact that the NCR is going to be making the same mistakes that the democracy before them made, is the fact that the democracy did not fail because democracy doesn't work.

[SPEAKER_03]: It failed because it was co-opted by a bunch of rich people who had agendas that were not beneficial to the majority of the population.

[SPEAKER_03]: That's a very different reason for the failure of democracy.

[SPEAKER_03]: Interesting.

[SPEAKER_00]: Well, yeah, what's interesting.

[SPEAKER_00]: The only thing with that line, which was odd to me, and again, I'm probably nitpicking and we'll get more of it later is, is that, you know, he's implying that we replaced the democracy with vault tech, which then becomes the question of what about.

[SPEAKER_00]: President Richard said in fall out too.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm Richard.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's right.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: As President Richard said, who implies that no, they did all survive.

[SPEAKER_00]: The president did survive.

[SPEAKER_03]: Right, but that was the, that was now the on-clave.

[SPEAKER_03]: The president was member of on-clave, which was also in Coots with Valtek, which means fair enough.

[SPEAKER_03]: Which I think is, is that connective tissue, right?

[SPEAKER_03]: Like so we got rid of basically what he's saying is democracy failed.

[SPEAKER_03]: So instead we're going back to some sort of authoritarian system with a corporate vibe.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's really what he's saying and it just baffles me how many people out there will respond to episodes where I will say like that's in dumb idea Because every time a authoritarian system is tried to do things in this world.

[SPEAKER_03]: They just make it worse for everybody, but yeah [SPEAKER_03]: For some reason, people think, oh, that's a good idea.

[SPEAKER_03]: It's better than democracy.

[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, yeah, I'm pretty sure that's like- But then we get the view of what fall out, 32 and 33 really are.

[SPEAKER_00]: And we did get a hint, I can't or when it, my timing is to get wrong, barbed in them when they're in the mean and mentioned vault.

[SPEAKER_03]: 30 what the measure their three volt planet 31333 maybe add for this before this like I could get there long let me keep going through and we'll get to that part yeah so so okay so we've got norm in the vault right talking to this guy this that scene wraps up um but even says the future humanity comes down to one word management that's his whole thing then we get to barbe in the meeting again we have a plan for three vaults but we have over a hundred [SPEAKER_03]: Let's divide these up.

[SPEAKER_03]: Each of you can run some and will compete to see who comes up with the best solution for survival.

[SPEAKER_03]: That starts to resonate with the group.

[SPEAKER_03]: Then we pan back to norm, vault 31.

[SPEAKER_03]: That's right.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_03]: So bud, planning to create super managers.

[SPEAKER_03]: His plan is to create super managers.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.

[SPEAKER_03]: Then wipe the surface clean.

[SPEAKER_03]: He very clearly says that the agenda for vault tech is to make.

[SPEAKER_03]: powerful supermanagers, the kinds of people that should be leaders in this new world, and then we will destroy everyone on the surface.

[SPEAKER_03]: And there's nothing you could have said that was more on-clave than that.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_03]: That's yes.

[SPEAKER_03]: Basically, kill everyone who's infected with any form of FEV or anything at all who has been, you know, who is not one of us, destroy all of them and replace them with supermanagers.

[SPEAKER_03]: Of this is identical to Nazi eugenics.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it is, well, one in the same, what I'd laughed about was that he then in effect reveals that Vault 31 and it's a Vault 32 and 33 are just breeding centers for the Vault 31 people and that's what that's why in order to create super managers.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they bring them out of cryo, they then, you know, breed with with the locals, and then I guess go back into cryo.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, they seem to swap out.

[SPEAKER_03]: That seems to be one of the things normal learned on the role of who had served as managers previously.

[SPEAKER_03]: And it seems like they cycle in and out.

[SPEAKER_03]: And as once they're gone long enough for the current people to have every own generation.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that makes sense.

[SPEAKER_03]: They can come back out of freezing for, you know, decade and then they get put back or whatever.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I don't know if it's a decade.

[SPEAKER_03]: I'm just thrown at numbers.

[SPEAKER_03]: They were back to Barb's meeting, right?

[SPEAKER_03]: So now we're back to each of the different reps with their ideas for vaults, right?

[SPEAKER_03]: Fred Sinclair from BigMT is there.

[SPEAKER_03]: He says, over crowd of vaults, so people have to compete to survive.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, Julia Master 27.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't know what the name is.

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what the name is.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I know the vaults.

[SPEAKER_00]: That's vault 27, where they had 2,000 bulls that have 200.

[SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know them by number.

[SPEAKER_03]: They all get jumbled in my head.

[SPEAKER_03]: But we've talked about this before.

[SPEAKER_03]: How I have a hard time remembering memes and labels.

[SPEAKER_03]: Julia Masters from Repcon says a vault governed by a robot that based on the one that delivers milk to the front door that they're currently currently working on.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's about 51 to that over see or is a robot and then I kills everybody.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, yes.

[SPEAKER_03]: Leon von Felden from Westex says super soldier vault using illegal immigrants.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, absolutely happened.

[SPEAKER_03]: That's how super soldiers or 87.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the FPV virus.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, super means we're created that way.

[SPEAKER_03]: Also at Mariposa, I remember that word for some reason.

[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, so then pump psychorotronic drugs into the air supply is mentioned by a voice.

[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm not sure exactly sure who's voice that is.

[SPEAKER_03]: And first I thought it was house, but I don't think it is.

[SPEAKER_03]: I think it might be Fred again.

[SPEAKER_00]: Thanks, Fred again, because that's Vault 106.

[SPEAKER_00]: So that's the one where there are psychotropic drugs in the air supply.

[SPEAKER_00]: So that's one of the fun missions you get to go on.

[SPEAKER_03]: And then Julia says, again, from Ripcon says separate parents and she'll separate parents and children and the smartest kids or the only ones you reach adulthood, another 175, which game you're from in that one more year, 75, 75, 75, 75, quite a bit of a new Vegas.

[SPEAKER_03]: Um, no, there's a three.

[SPEAKER_03]: Somebody's somebody's going to comment on this episode and they'll be like, this is the one, and then house says funny deal a lot of, or basically points out funny funny, well, it was in fall.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the mold in middle school.

[SPEAKER_03]: That's okay.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah.

[SPEAKER_03]: Funny deal.

[SPEAKER_03]: A lot of earning potential with the end of the world, how can you guarantee results?

[SPEAKER_03]: Barb says by dropping the bombs ourselves.

[SPEAKER_03]: Now, a lot of people when this came out took it to absolutely confirm that Valtek are the ones who dropped the bombs first.

[SPEAKER_03]: But, she is only replying that this would be the plan to guarantee the results.

[SPEAKER_03]: This means that they are considering the option.

[SPEAKER_03]: It doesn't mean they necessarily didn't.

[SPEAKER_00]: Well, again, this comes like a question of vault tech on-clave.

[SPEAKER_00]: It is that sort of how far apart are they?

[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, because the other thing too is, we point it out.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like, people aren't living in the vaults yet.

[SPEAKER_00]: So you need to, if you're going to, [SPEAKER_00]: Again, you and I are not old enough to have lived through an atom bomb drop, not either nor are we in Nagasaki.

[SPEAKER_00]: So it really hasn't come for a while.

[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.

[SPEAKER_00]: What the point being is that it's, if your whole plan is the bomb dropped into the world's coming, if they get into a vault, that speed is going to be, it's a lot easier to get the vault when you know the bomb's drop is coming.

[SPEAKER_03]: right but they're like we know from the games that there was not warning at least for the majority of the population who ended up in vaults they just got word over the radio and air sirens and had to run into the vaults like we have scenes of that we also have the scene at the beginning of the season where Cooper and his daughter are not in a vault.

[SPEAKER_03]: If Barb has something to do with an understanding and knowing the plan of when to drop the bombs, then why would she have maybe she had a fallout with Cooper and they weren't getting along and they divorced or something, but why would she put her daughter in danger?

[SPEAKER_03]: That doesn't make any sense.

[SPEAKER_03]: It makes sense that she would have had a bring your kid to work day or something and then take her daughter into the vault for safety.

[SPEAKER_00]: Well, they would have been living in the vault already.

[SPEAKER_00]: We're already ready to test it.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[SPEAKER_03]: But that doesn't happen, which leads me to believe that the bombs dropped earlier than they planned.

[SPEAKER_03]: They may have been planning to drop it later that same day, or the next week or something.

[SPEAKER_03]: But I'm, I'm of the opinion that it's more likely that war [SPEAKER_03]: came to them before they expected it and the Chinese launched it, which coincides with Tim Kane's original plan for the reason why all the stuff worked in Fallout 1 and how it would have happened if he had continued writing the story, which he didn't because he only got to work on Fallout 1 and Fallout 2.

[SPEAKER_03]: So, some more details would go to work, though.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he did great work.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, great guy.

[SPEAKER_03]: Go watch his YouTube channel.

[SPEAKER_03]: He's got all sorts of insightful stuff about [SPEAKER_03]: We've got that back to Barb.

[SPEAKER_03]: Nuclear event would be tragedy would, okay, so these are my notes, and sometimes I write them in ways that I'm not, I'm just gonna share what I meant when I wrote them.

[SPEAKER_03]: I wrote nuclear event would be tragedy, but opportunity, perhaps greatest ever, no one left to fight a true monopoly.

[SPEAKER_03]: This idea that they can just destroy the competition outright.

[SPEAKER_03]: and then Hank enters.

[SPEAKER_03]: This is where Henry, the superfan of Cooper, is allowed to get to meet him because he's in the building and we realize Henry is Hank, the claim they're the same person.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, who has had quite the promotion from this moment for something somehow or another?

[SPEAKER_03]: Well, he's on the list of potential supermanagers, I guess, and yeah, ends up [SPEAKER_00]: And we also, at their point, if here at this, we get the line of war never changes from barb.

[SPEAKER_03]: That's I think that's coming up.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, yeah, that's coming up in just a scene because if Pivots back to Moldavers We reveals Hank has been around a long time Hank loves Cooper's character Start starting to the hard cut.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, setting shooting his enemy all of that stuff then we go back to Barb and the line is specifically This is our chance to make war obsolete because in our current societal configuration Which took shape without intentional guidance we have friction basically meaning like [SPEAKER_03]: Society evolved naturally without any guidance from anybody, but we could do a better job.

[SPEAKER_03]: Then she says, we have conflict and we have war and war will war never changes.

[SPEAKER_03]: So the idea here is not just, she's taking buds idea and fleshing it out more.

[SPEAKER_03]: Instead of just like, we're going to go vaults and out waiter enemies.

[SPEAKER_03]: She's explaining, if we can just wipe the slate clean, we can make a better system from the ground up.

[SPEAKER_03]: Mm-hmm.

[SPEAKER_03]: Which is absolutely in line with like every comic book super villain ever.

[SPEAKER_00]: Well, and it because it is the things they they're the America defend vault tech, but the concept here of a lot of what they're trying to do is [SPEAKER_00]: The end of the war is going to happen.

[SPEAKER_00]: We know it's going to the end of the world is going to happen.

[SPEAKER_00]: We know it's going to happen.

[SPEAKER_00]: We could choose when and by choosing when, we could choose to survive it.

[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[SPEAKER_00]: That becomes kind of the overarching theme of round fallout, but then falls apart with the weird vol experimentation.

[SPEAKER_03]: but but also we know from the previous episode that they had already designed a moldaver in her team had designed cold fusion power and would have solved the resource wars so and that vaultek had shelved the the plans for that so if they really wanted to stop the end of the world from happening they had the ability to provide unlimited power to the entire globe and they decide not to do it.

[SPEAKER_03]: Because they would rather wipe the slate clean and rebuild it from the ground up so that there's no conflict, there's no competition, none of that.

[SPEAKER_03]: And so to me, that shows that they took the path of, we will, we want to be rulers and powerful and it doesn't matter who we have to kill to do it, rather than the path of, well let's, why don't we make peace with the Chinese and help supply the ailing world with the power they need in order to have the resources that they need.

[SPEAKER_03]: Because that with the whole reason why everything was coming to a head is a lack of resources over time.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: So Alaska over oil.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_03]: Over oil.

[SPEAKER_03]: The fall of the European, the equivalent of the European Union.

[SPEAKER_03]: If I was called, of course, words fall out of my head.

[SPEAKER_03]: All of that stuff and the conflict with China.

[SPEAKER_03]: So now we're back to moldaver.

[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, I have written here.

[SPEAKER_03]: He never told you or your mother where he's really from.

[SPEAKER_03]: And then my next note is mother was like Lucy kind loving curious.

[SPEAKER_03]: You came to know why I took your father.

[SPEAKER_03]: She's basically talking to Lucy and kind of revealing things step by step as we pan back and forth.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_03]: Now we're back to Maximus for the first time in a while.

[SPEAKER_03]: With the brotherhood, he's suiting up.

[SPEAKER_03]: He thinks Dane is sent into this conflict as punishment we find out.

[SPEAKER_03]: Scared of going into the wilds, didn't mean they'd blame Max.

[SPEAKER_03]: basically apologizes like, hey, I put the thing in my shoe in order to keep myself from being sent out there.

[SPEAKER_03]: I was too scared to go do it.

[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't think they'd blame you.

[SPEAKER_03]: Max basically says, hey, it's fine.

[SPEAKER_03]: You're forgiven.

[SPEAKER_03]: Because it's sent him on this journey where he got to meet Lucy.

[SPEAKER_03]: That seems to be the justification there, right?

[SPEAKER_03]: And then, oh, go ahead.

[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, this seems to be, I like the scene because again, that's idea of the brotherhood is a grinder.

[SPEAKER_00]: And that said, it's a Dane, hey, I'm too afraid to fight and like, great, go fight.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like I don't, you know what I mean?

[SPEAKER_00]: Like that's how they go.

[SPEAKER_03]: Right, you were a soldier, this year of one job, go do it.

[SPEAKER_03]: But we come to find out that Max's motivation here is really to rescue Lucy at this point.

[SPEAKER_03]: Like he said in the previous episode before they left there, he was fined her again, that kind of thing.

[SPEAKER_03]: And he now believes that vaults are peaceful and safe and is still ignorant to that fact because Lucy was still kind of ignorant to that fact.

[SPEAKER_03]: Dane says there's nowhere safe and there's no leaving, implying like, dude, you're stuck and those vaults are not as safe as you think they are, then the vertebrates lift off.

[SPEAKER_03]: And then we get the next moldy ever seen with Lucy.

[SPEAKER_03]: Your mother discovered that something was siphoning the vaults water.

[SPEAKER_03]: This is moldy for explaining what's going on with Lucy.

[SPEAKER_03]: One clue she did is civilization returned to the surface.

[SPEAKER_03]: So she was wise enough to know, like, okay, something's going on.

[SPEAKER_03]: There must be people up there.

[SPEAKER_03]: Hank pushed back against that and she realized he was hiding things so she ran with her children.

[SPEAKER_03]: They went to shady sands.

[SPEAKER_03]: Hank went after her took the children and burned the city down.

[SPEAKER_03]: All of the stuff gets revealed which goes into the thing we just talked about in the last episode where she felt like, Oh my father would never forgive me for doing exactly that same thing.

[SPEAKER_00]: for people who are to save someone whereas Hank's a monster.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, this again, we talked in our last episode about these D&D character arcs, where Hank starts out as this lawful good and it actually turns out, no, he's pure evil.

[SPEAKER_00]: He is a lawful evil.

[SPEAKER_00]: He is this bad human being.

[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, so he's a, he enduged shady sands, which also may be think of something else.

[SPEAKER_00]: When Buddy is talking to earlier about how we're going to make a a vault full of the world's best managers and then wipe the surface out, that also explains, well, how did he nuke shady scents?

[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I think Vault Thick still has.

[SPEAKER_00]: No, absolutely.

[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.

[SPEAKER_00]: They still have all these weapons.

[SPEAKER_00]: They have access to them somehow.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, absolutely.

[SPEAKER_03]: Then we get this real banger of a line from Old Aver.

[SPEAKER_03]: That's how Vault Thick deals with competition.

[SPEAKER_03]: Just like they did 200 years ago, implying they're the ones who dropped the bombs.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yep.

[SPEAKER_03]: Then sketch about Cold Fusion, limitless power for everyone.

[SPEAKER_03]: The same tech that she was working on, all of that stuff.

[SPEAKER_03]: She just needs someone for Vault Thick to use the code.

[SPEAKER_03]: Um, then the question becomes, okay, what happened to Lucy's mother and it pans to the ghoul, she was clearly ghoulified by the explosion at shady sands and Lucy sees the necklace and just it clicks, she knows, um, and then Lucy says give, give her the code dad and he imputes it.

[SPEAKER_03]: The question here is, does Hank actually care to see realize that like he is in no place to negotiate at all at this point?

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think Hank at this stage is kind of, [SPEAKER_00]: broken because he's never the thing about the vault tech, the only person from vault tech we've seen that actually has kind of their stuff together is...

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, she's very capable.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, everyone else's mate is shown to be.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's a, a guy in a suit who's just, you know, oh, I got lucky and I work for the big corporation.

[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[SPEAKER_00]: Which is so true.

[SPEAKER_03]: Right, like how many, how many people in your life?

[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, we're both 40 some things, who have worked for corporations and major businesses.

[SPEAKER_03]: How many people have you worked with?

[SPEAKER_03]: Have made theirself to very high level positions in corporations, not because they are capable, but because they had good connections.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and it's the example I use with body when we had the whole thing where the goal is confronting about the fact that we have a virtual name is confronting about the power armor.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like here you guys made bad power on me, both, oh yeah, I'm not really big into QC.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, like, and now this guy's leading the organ is ain't right, but not officially, but it becomes that whole thing.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I think we get here is hand just kind of, [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I'm in trouble.

[SPEAKER_00]: Sure, because even if you look at the way they did Hanks make up, he's meant to look, obviously he's been exposed to a lot of sun, his face is sunburned, but he also looks weak.

[SPEAKER_00]: He's down.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's how the, you know, his make up is done.

[SPEAKER_00]: And it's obviously intentional, whereas Molde Ivour looks, we talked about a little bit force.

[SPEAKER_00]: She looks like she's been exposed to the weather, but she still looks confident.

[SPEAKER_00]: She looks proud.

[SPEAKER_00]: She has her stuff together.

[SPEAKER_00]: Right?

[SPEAKER_00]: Looks weak inside of the cage.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, yes, and we'll get to that other, but think it in a minute, but we go back to the norm and vault 31 who tries to lead, but leave, but says he can't leave, he closes the door.

[SPEAKER_03]: Can't leave until we go to the surface could be 100 years.

[SPEAKER_03]: So use your dad's cryopad pod to wait it out.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, which funny.

[SPEAKER_03]: So we go back to Lucy and Hank.

[SPEAKER_03]: Hank says, I did what was necessary to save our people and that woman over there.

[SPEAKER_03]: She's no different than me.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, which trying to drive these connections.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: Well, and this becomes this is coming.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's a little bit trope.

[SPEAKER_00]: Unfortunately, but it is this whole idea.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like, yeah, but I'm a bad person, but so is the other people.

[SPEAKER_03]: Right, which is exactly what bad people think is that everyone else thinks like they do, they're just pretending like they'd pretend to be a good person.

[SPEAKER_00]: And he does make a fair point that moldy were did murder a bunch of people breaking into their vault.

[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I truly, you know, true.

[SPEAKER_00]: No, there's not not the best person because she's also means to an end.

[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[SPEAKER_00]: Is where Maldiver falls a little bit more in?

[SPEAKER_00]: Which is, which is crazy.

[SPEAKER_03]: When you think about it, isn't that what war always does?

[SPEAKER_03]: Is it causes, somebody becomes the aggressor and is usually doing it for some negative reason.

[SPEAKER_03]: But then somebody has to defend themselves and has to do atrocious things, just simply try to write the wrongs.

[SPEAKER_03]: And it makes everybody a villain in some way due to desperation.

[SPEAKER_03]: And that's, and the wasteland kind of does that, too.

[SPEAKER_03]: It's that same war never changes.

[SPEAKER_03]: It's another reason why that quote makes sense.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: And then so as the fusion reactor gets going, now we get the fight scene.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, well, okay.

[SPEAKER_03]: So we go back to Lucy and Hank, Hank says, I didn't want to answer.

[SPEAKER_03]: I guess the fusion reactor going.

[SPEAKER_03]: Then he says, I loved your mother, but she stopped being your mother when she left home when she took you into danger.

[SPEAKER_03]: It just goes to show how much he believes that the wasteland is terrible and not safe and the people on the surface are not people and all of that.

[SPEAKER_03]: Um, they continue to talk over the battle.

[SPEAKER_03]: You've seen what it's like up here.

[SPEAKER_03]: Everyone's equally afraid and miserable forced to do horrible things to survive.

[SPEAKER_03]: I had to make a choice between their violent world and our peaceful one.

[SPEAKER_03]: And I believe, I know.

[SPEAKER_03]: And he says, I believe, I know.

[SPEAKER_03]: I made the right choice.

[SPEAKER_03]: And the irony here is that he and Valtek caused that exact horrible world.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_03]: That he is now having to make this hard choice about and justify his evil behavior.

[SPEAKER_03]: So it is their faults that their in a situation where he's continues have to have to be evil.

[SPEAKER_03]: It's like it's kind of like entirely his fault.

[SPEAKER_00]: And also the vaults are horrible too.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yes.

[SPEAKER_00]: He's in one of the good ones.

[SPEAKER_00]: The vault, 31, 32, 33.

[SPEAKER_00]: They are good vaults.

[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, the other ones are pretty rough.

[SPEAKER_03]: Right, due to poor quality control.

[SPEAKER_03]: Thanks, but yes, right.

[SPEAKER_00]: In all times, some intentional, I mean, woof.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, so.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so then we get the Brotherhood Max, they're on the vertebrates, missiles are fired, Max gets out, he moves in, it pans to Lucy.

[SPEAKER_03]: The song that plays is, I don't want to see you, I don't want to see tomorrow by Nacking Cole, and it goes on and says, unless I see it with you, again, laying up that romantic reason why he's coming back.

[SPEAKER_03]: And the lyrics here about tomorrow being a bright new day and sun breaking through, so there's like this hopefulness in the song, even though a trotist terrible things are happening [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I guess this fight scene was terrible.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's because of, and we talked about one of our earlier ones, I was on with you.

[SPEAKER_00]: The power armor is just too plasticy and clunky.

[SPEAKER_03]: You want to see people punching through people?

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, again, I also do, I do a podcast, mobile games on Warhammer 40K.

[SPEAKER_00]: So how much kind of a thing?

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_03]: Well, those soldiers are like, what, like, significantly bigger and taller.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there's a, there's a big, it's all of that.

[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't line up.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, it's basically, as a super soldier inside a super suit.

[SPEAKER_00]: But there's still an element of the, yeah, that, that's seen, it's, [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it felt cheap.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just gonna sell it as a TV show and they're budget.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, increased like you can tell Yeah, and he sees it.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm looking I'm looking forward to this season.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, what they can do it by over that that scene I was like, oh, it's this cool fight scene and I'm kind of like, oh, this is yeah, it's a team was like a TV show fight scene.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but anyway, that's fine.

[SPEAKER_00]: Then once they get away from, and this is just a more probably personal gripe, once they get away from the large scale fight scene, now we're going to do a small scale fight scene.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, TV can do great.

[SPEAKER_00]: Right now, it lights up.

[SPEAKER_03]: right right and so during the battle uh Hank we go to Hank and mentions the solution is to remove factions and leave only us which reconfirms of all techs and tensions previously.

[SPEAKER_03]: Then we have this machine gun scene with tears everybody down and like you can finally see like power armor soldier with you know mini guns and all that right um then we go to the Google fight scene this is cool.

[SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_03]: So the question here is he shows up in the corner.

[SPEAKER_03]: Everybody's in the small room.

[SPEAKER_03]: It's dark and he talks about how like, oh, they still have the flaw in the armor and they shoots one turns off the lights and the questions here.

[SPEAKER_03]: Of course are don't the don't those suits have light lights on them.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, they do night vision and they don't they didn't not in the game right.

[SPEAKER_03]: Why didn't they think to use that.

[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know, maybe they're not trained very well.

[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe maybe the goal realized that Maximus wasn't trained very well, maybe the other nights are trained very well in the many, either.

[SPEAKER_03]: Or maybe they're old suits that just don't work right.

[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know, but it did feel like one of the, one of those small moments in the show where they, it was like one to the creators.

[SPEAKER_03]: And they really think this is her who, like, they could just turn like you guys fight in the dark.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm wearing a helmet with a heads up display.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I put lights on.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I put that up great in my T.O.45.

[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[SPEAKER_03]: So, okay, so we have that fight scene.

[SPEAKER_03]: Then we're back to Hank and Lucy.

[SPEAKER_03]: Hank says, open the door.

[SPEAKER_03]: Let's go home.

[SPEAKER_03]: Lucy looks at her mom.

[SPEAKER_03]: The headless power armor soldier walks in falls down.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_03]: Which is fun.

[SPEAKER_03]: uh...

max walks in uh...

hank i'm her says i'm a father can you get us out max shoots the lock to let him out or loosey tells max his father was responsible for shady sands which of course changes in mind immediately uh...

hank takes the power armor while they're sitting there talking from the headless guy that was laying there uh...

says loosey you're coming with me punches max knocks him out [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and then Lucy draws the gun on her father.

[SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.

[SPEAKER_03]: And his responses, you see what this place does to people?

[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, that's the because he's completely unwilling to take any responsibility for any of his decisions.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, correct.

[SPEAKER_00]: Everything he does is correct, but look now like you're against your father and I've done nothing and he To his credit, he's done nothing to harm her Lots of things to harm people that she cares about loves, but nothing to harm her And his mind like what was so good while you upset with me right right and I like this this scene too Because it gonna make the maximum thing where he's like, oh, I'm here to be the hero And we get a little bit of glimpse back to like [SPEAKER_00]: You could either not put a knock on him of like, you know, where he just frees the guy who murdered his old family.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: Or it's one of the pieces of, there are no good people in the wasteland.

[SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[SPEAKER_00]: Everyone's got a backstory.

[SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[SPEAKER_03]: Also, he kind of, he's shows up to save her and then ends up doing the wrong thing, not knowing, you know, but basically takes the information, just trust him.

[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I'm his father.

[SPEAKER_03]: I'm her father.

[SPEAKER_03]: So, okay, yeah, I'll free you.

[SPEAKER_03]: You must like, we're, we know who the bad guys are, but he doesn't.

[SPEAKER_03]: And then, yeah, Hank continues to manipulate her, and then, um, the Google enters, shoots at Hank.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_03]: And we get the line.

[SPEAKER_03]: You want another autograph young Henry?

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, then he says Fio Fuertei Iformal, which is Spanish.

[SPEAKER_03]: It translates to ugly, strong, and formal, or dignified could be the translation, which I did some research on this.

[SPEAKER_03]: Turns out it's a eulogy that is used to describe a man of rugged appearance, strength, and honor, which plays back to his role in the movies.

[SPEAKER_03]: It would have been a line that he used in those movies, right?

[SPEAKER_00]: So Hank Loft, Hank was a huge fan of all of this movie.

[SPEAKER_00]: Right, delivering, he's delivering.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think that line may have been from in the movie, right?

[SPEAKER_00]: Before he took out, yeah, he killed them.

[SPEAKER_00]: The movie, the movie he didn't like.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's the line he used in the movie before he kills the bad guy.

[SPEAKER_00]: He complains about the director in the beginning, in the very early episode saying, I don't think I should be doing this.

[SPEAKER_00]: But when he meets Hank, Hank starts quoting that line two here.

[SPEAKER_03]: And now he's quoting it back to him because Hank's the villain.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

[SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.

[SPEAKER_03]: It's great.

[SPEAKER_03]: It's this wonderful circle.

[SPEAKER_03]: And then he puts together the whole last name connection.

[SPEAKER_03]: He was like McLean.

[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't, you know, thought it was coincidence all that.

[SPEAKER_03]: And then Hank is slowly realizing who the goal is.

[SPEAKER_03]: And then the goal is to take where's my having family, which again confirms the goal's motivation to find his family.

[SPEAKER_03]: But he keeps saying family, which seems to imply both Barb and his daughter.

[SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[SPEAKER_03]: I'm guessing they're still on good terms.

[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe Barb, even though she seemed like she was a bad person during the Vault Tech meeting, maybe she was just towing the company line and she was internally fighting to make things better.

[SPEAKER_03]: When I, I used to do the show with my daughter before you probably tuned in, knew it was going home of the fall or cast.

[SPEAKER_03]: And we were discussing the OnClave in Fallout 4.

[SPEAKER_03]: And I asked her when you first finished Fallout 4, what, who did you side with?

[SPEAKER_03]: And she was like the hunk or the institute.

[SPEAKER_03]: That's who we were talking about, the hunk of the institute.

[SPEAKER_03]: And she's like, oh, I side with the institute.

[SPEAKER_03]: And I was like, why did she side with the institute?

[SPEAKER_03]: And her justification was, because I wanted to be the person in charge so I could make it not evil.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_03]: and i was like oh that's interesting so that makes me wonder is barbs motivation to actually try to make the system better from the inside but she still has to towed line during these meetings and things [SPEAKER_00]: Hmm, I don't know.

[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, my expectation is more he should try to find his daughter and his wife.

[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it's, or maybe he's finding his wife, mid-daughter because he wants to make sure she's alive and safe and his wife for revenge.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and he both, yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: Again, this scene does is a little bit weird because earlier, um, [SPEAKER_00]: I believe it's intentional, because as he goes to shoot him, Hank turns away and turns around the way.

[SPEAKER_01]: He flies off, yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: And he doesn't kill him, which implies, and I think we get it later, that he actually wanted Hank to know about it.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he says a line about it.

[SPEAKER_03]: So we'll get to that in a minute.

[SPEAKER_03]: The goal then says, war never changes.

[SPEAKER_03]: Look out at this wasteland.

[SPEAKER_03]: It looks like chaos, but there's always somebody behind the wheel.

[SPEAKER_03]: And that's who I want to talk to.

[SPEAKER_03]: That's where your daddy has headed.

[SPEAKER_03]: Now, maybe that was the shady character in the rafters in that meeting scene.

[SPEAKER_03]: We definitely think it may have something to do with Mr.

House based on the trailers and all of that, so we're going to have to see.

[SPEAKER_03]: But then his justification is that he plans to track him.

[SPEAKER_03]: It's not that he wanted him to survive.

[SPEAKER_03]: It's that it's easier to track somebody and follow where they're going than it is to ask them to tell them where they're going.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I like that they do over that line quickly because that's the thing.

[SPEAKER_00]: You're watching the show You're like did he just like you just killed everyone in power arm like it was nothing and this guy turned around You were like oh I'm possible and then yet become there's a reason actually track him.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah Yeah, he says your whole world was decided over 200 years ago And then so basically says stay here and deal with the brotherhood steel or the dilemma becomes Stay here and deal with the brother's steel or come with me and meet your makers is kind of the the thing that the goal presents to Lucy [SPEAKER_03]: Lucy picks up the gun points it, not at the goal.

[SPEAKER_03]: We think, oh, is she pointing at the goal?

[SPEAKER_03]: But now she puts her mother out of the misery.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, she's this terrible falling apart creature.

[SPEAKER_00]: No longer knows who she is.

[SPEAKER_00]: And Lucy is continuing the standard fallout character character arc.

[SPEAKER_00]: Where you are, you would now be coming this [SPEAKER_00]: You know, kind of cold killing machine out in the wasteland.

[SPEAKER_00]: Right, cause, right, still with good morals.

[SPEAKER_00]: But that's what I have to be.

[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I love the twist on this because if it wasn't for her experiences in the wasteland, she wouldn't have had, she wouldn't have been capable of putting, doing the kindness of putting her mother out of her misery.

[SPEAKER_03]: And so she does a good through violence that she would never have been able to do or learn about, except for her experiences.

[SPEAKER_03]: So she is growing as a character.

[SPEAKER_03]: And in this, in this violent sort of way, she saves her mother.

[SPEAKER_03]: which is kind of cool, if you think about it.

[SPEAKER_03]: No, I like it.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yep.

[SPEAKER_03]: So she has to leave Max.

[SPEAKER_03]: He hasn't welcomed back up yet.

[SPEAKER_03]: She leaves him with a kiss.

[SPEAKER_03]: And then she says the most sinister, Okidoki ever.

[SPEAKER_03]: Okidoki, Max wakes up.

[SPEAKER_03]: First thing he says is Lucy.

[SPEAKER_03]: And then he repeats it three times.

[SPEAKER_03]: That's how much he doesn't care about anything else that's going on this scene.

[SPEAKER_03]: He wants to find her.

[SPEAKER_03]: Because he wants to be with her.

[SPEAKER_03]: But I think he's also wondering if she's safe.

[SPEAKER_00]: That's why because the brotherhood is here attacking.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, her to save her from being collateral right not worse of the brotherhood.

[SPEAKER_03]: Right, Moldeva returns into the room.

[SPEAKER_03]: She says Rose, who sees mom's name.

[SPEAKER_03]: She's limping and bloody.

[SPEAKER_03]: She's clearly wounded.

[SPEAKER_03]: She activates the power.

[SPEAKER_03]: She's bleeding out.

[SPEAKER_03]: And to me, this was like this last action of hers before she died.

[SPEAKER_03]: She knew she was dying.

[SPEAKER_03]: She knew that they were going to get [SPEAKER_03]: the confusion.

[SPEAKER_00]: But this is her life's work, don't forget.

[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[SPEAKER_00]: Coming to culmination, culmination.

[SPEAKER_03]: She wanted to see that it was accomplished and worked.

[SPEAKER_03]: And then the skyline just lights up.

[SPEAKER_03]: The remaining grid that's still there plugged into lightbulbs and whatever lights up due to the power.

[SPEAKER_03]: And then she's bleeding out, right?

[SPEAKER_03]: She's done.

[SPEAKER_03]: She realizes she can't stop the brotherhood and so this is her final moment.

[SPEAKER_03]: We get this line.

[SPEAKER_03]: What would your brotherhood do with infinite power?

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe you can stop them.

[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe you can't.

[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe all you can do is try and then she does.

[SPEAKER_00]: And this I think is setting us up for season two.

[SPEAKER_00]: Maximus, as we said earlier, Maximus is supposed to be the sword to the leadership of this, but yeah, the thing about swords is swords sometimes are used to cut the heads off of kings.

[SPEAKER_03]: And so they can stab both directions.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

[SPEAKER_00]: And because what happens next with Maximus kind of starts to set that up because Dane comes in.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

[SPEAKER_03]: Dane says, Dane says, was that their leader you killed her?

[SPEAKER_00]: Didn't ask did you kill her proclaims you killed her and then raises his hand and has them all hail night maximus is a hero now right and that's the idea because this is the whole issue with maximus is that now As was talking about last episode he's character arc his his [SPEAKER_00]: is moved on.

[SPEAKER_00]: He's no longer the adult from the earlier, right?

[SPEAKER_00]: Like the adult fearful child he was before.

[SPEAKER_00]: And now he has a purpose and power.

[SPEAKER_00]: So now we're setting him up for the question.

[SPEAKER_00]: Do you go and pursue Lucy?

[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you're interest or do you go and save the wasteland?

[SPEAKER_00]: And that becomes, that's the choice that's kind of implying is coming down the pipe item.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, yes.

[SPEAKER_03]: Also, Maximus has spent this entire season being somebody he's not.

[SPEAKER_03]: And the season ends with him being proclaimed the person who killed Moldaver and to hero of the Brotherhood, which is Still somebody he is not he is still living a lie at the very end, which is like he's trying to get out of that and is now pulled back in even more Then we get the song this one shows up in the fall of games.

[SPEAKER_03]: We three my echo my shadow in me And there's a line there that says we three were all alone living in a memory [SPEAKER_03]: So poignant.

[SPEAKER_03]: I also feel like this ties into the three main characters who even though like Lucy on the Guller together at the end of this all of them are still fundamentally alone.

[SPEAKER_03]: They are they are have not really connected to other human beings yet.

[SPEAKER_03]: They're still searching for their humanity.

[SPEAKER_00]: But I think that's the overarching story of Fallout.

[SPEAKER_00]: You know, your Fallout companions are [SPEAKER_00]: Not annoying at best, because they've got a lot better in four, but in most of the games, I mean, even dog meat was a pain in the budget there.

[SPEAKER_00]: around with you like that was how do I not shoot this person why you why can't I enter this room oh it's because you're stuck somewhere trying you're running to a door yeah that was the thing yeah that's true history and but we start to get like character arcs and new Vegas for your companions and then they really flesh them out a lot and fall at four [SPEAKER_03]: Where you have your relationship with your characters with your companions can grow and blossom into you Oh, it can.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's like a hated playing with them next to me.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like Yeah, yeah, but like oh, they're next to me.

[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, this is gonna be so much harder.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's how it always was [SPEAKER_00]: Yep.

[SPEAKER_03]: And then this show ends, right?

[SPEAKER_03]: We've got the Hollywood sign sponsored by Valtec.

[SPEAKER_03]: I thought that was interesting.

[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, that was you.

[SPEAKER_03]: Death class call the new the view of New Vegas with the damage.

[SPEAKER_00]: We get the review.

[SPEAKER_00]: We get the big reveal, which I think was their way of saying.

[SPEAKER_00]: This is a super John theory here, but my theory is they wrote the show.

[SPEAKER_00]: and the people behind the game went, hey, this isn't great.

[SPEAKER_00]: The show's good, it's not great and I'm worried that the Fallout fans may not be a huge supporter of it.

[SPEAKER_03]: Almost like the show's like they're catering too much to the people who don't know if Fallout is instead of people who don't know what Fallout is.

[SPEAKER_00]: Why do they do they say, okay, [SPEAKER_00]: Everyone went through the show, the show is good, don't get me wrong, but they're like, that's not that fallouty.

[SPEAKER_00]: So what do we do?

[SPEAKER_00]: I know, we'll take it to Vegas.

[SPEAKER_00]: Because at that point, you take every fallout fan, and we all jump out of our chairs when we see Vegas.

[SPEAKER_00]: Because this is, again, I love fallout, I want to love fallout too, but I would never fight that fallout new Vegas is not the best version of the game.

[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[SPEAKER_00]: That's a battle that you auto lose.

[SPEAKER_03]: So I also, that's yeah.

[SPEAKER_03]: The contingent of the fanbase, who believes that, is the most of vocal and loudest and picky contingency of the fanbase on line, and it made sense that they realized as the creators of the show that they needed to play into that group.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, well, I think they did get their approval.

[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's the idea.

[SPEAKER_00]: And so where by moving it to Vegas, you get so much out of the game that, yeah, obviously, I just I full support that that's my theory on why it's going to be based couldn't have they could they could have gone to a new setting.

[SPEAKER_00]: You couldn't make anywhere, but the fact they picked Vegas, they brought Mr.

House makes this very interesting and also it's kind of cool.

[SPEAKER_03]: It also gives anybody who's a fan of any of the fallouts, the ability to go back to a game and play a game and go, oh, okay, even if they didn't play Newvex, maybe you're somebody who just started with fallout four, played 76, you could go play Newvex.

[SPEAKER_03]: You could play Newvex, you could be sure.

[SPEAKER_00]: Sure, you could play Newvex, if you had not played Newvex, you should go play Newvex.

[SPEAKER_00]: Right, right.

[SPEAKER_00]: I always used to play fallout one in fallout two, but like you need to go play Newvex.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but to my point, they could go back and play that, have that experience and then prepare themselves for seeing things that are now familiar in the next season, which completely plays up that the buzz online, which tells the people who are not plugged into the games.

[SPEAKER_03]: Something cool is going to happen.

[SPEAKER_03]: You should keep watching the show.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_03]: So it makes sense from a marketing standpoint.

[SPEAKER_03]: It makes sense from a making sure that the fan base is on board with its standpoint.

[SPEAKER_03]: The only dilemma then becomes how do they how do they play out the events of season two with or without confirming which ending is canon and one of the things they've traditionally done is try not to confirm a definitive canon for a previous game.

[SPEAKER_03]: They will they will take certain characters and bring them back.

[SPEAKER_03]: or they will take certain plot lines and further the plot lines, but it's very rare where they will go, okay, this is definitively the canon ending for this previous game.

[SPEAKER_03]: That's very, they try to avoid it.

[SPEAKER_00]: That's one of them excited about because I don't see, [SPEAKER_00]: effectively, they've put themselves in the corner here.

[SPEAKER_00]: If they do the lame, they're actually was no conclusion that everyone gets furious.

[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, we've seen in the trailers that Caesar's Legion is there.

[SPEAKER_00]: Some of you know, Caesar's Legion's there.

[SPEAKER_00]: Also, we did an entire season here with no NCR.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yep, well, which is minimal NCR.

[SPEAKER_00]: Well, this sense of like, you know, the NCR God.

[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I think they got blown up at shady sands.

[SPEAKER_03]: I think the people fighting back against the brotherhood and the final scene would have defined themselves as having been members of the NCR, either currently or previously, because she finds the flag, right?

[SPEAKER_00]: And when she's in the, wherever the vault was it vault four, which was wonderful.

[SPEAKER_03]: In fact, NCR flags were flying at the observatory.

[SPEAKER_00]: where they, okay, I believe so.

[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe I missed that.

[SPEAKER_03]: So I think they're, these are MCR remnants if nothing else.

[SPEAKER_00]: And basically this way, if we go to New Vegas, we get NCR, we also still haven't seen the on clay, which we know is coming, obviously.

[SPEAKER_03]: Well, we saw the little glimpse with the scientist.

[SPEAKER_00]: And like, but that was just very minimal, but it's okay, but we don't know in the sense of like, the on clay because this, on the scientist, the on clay looks independent, but we're not seeing the true delicious.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's all tech the on clay, right, right, just simply put, you know, it's worth it.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I think the next season's going to be really exciting because they do get to do a lot of these reveals plus give us cool things like a death claw.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: And they give us markets.

[SPEAKER_03]: And see our power armor and maybe Marcus.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and that hate was not Marcus.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to be very upset and be honest.

[SPEAKER_03]: What if it was another intelligent, super-meant named, like, um, just Matthias?

[SPEAKER_00]: There's no reason not to do the Marcus.

[SPEAKER_00]: There's so many potentials there that it's just going to be.

[SPEAKER_03]: I think we'll get the little glimpses of certain characters.

[SPEAKER_03]: If people have pointed out, like, oh, I want this character to show up, and I want this character to show up.

[SPEAKER_03]: And I get that everyone has different favorites.

[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think he wouldn't make sense to cover all of the ones who could potentially show up.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm excited.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like I said.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: Awesome.

[SPEAKER_00]: Awesome.

[SPEAKER_03]: Well, John, thank you for joining me for all of these.

[SPEAKER_03]: This has been super fun.

[SPEAKER_03]: Going back over this thing.

[SPEAKER_03]: And anything else you want to share before we wrap this thing?

[SPEAKER_00]: Thanks for having me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Really from our youth stuff in the 80s and the 90s.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought back, I'm like, well, you know, whatever.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm in my forties now, you know, suck at Mega Man 2, it's not 9-year-old John.

[SPEAKER_00]: Freakin' Dragon, it's 4-4-year-old John, it's still struggles with a stupid game.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: I see, but come check those games out, we really do have a wonderful time.

[SPEAKER_00]: I am, and yeah, I just have a blast playing these old games and dying horribly over and over again.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, fun times.

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