Yo, what's up everybody?

Welcome to a brand new live episode of Spill the Tequila here on the John Roka Channel.

I am John Roky Jones is always by the man himself, King Swag Winston, Hey Marshall, how are you Winston?

I mean, Roc, I can't describe the feeling of waking up to the virtually the best possible news you could get, Like it's it's hard.

It's hard to describe the feeling.

Man, it is something that I think few people will ever truly understand.

But like.

He's gone, Nico is gone, and my god, the I have had so many jokes over the course of the day, seen so many other MAVs fans like also a lot of this, and then the people that are trying to push back and be like, y'all they're stupid, like he didn't even have time, you know.

Injuries.

It's like, well, first of all, what was the first thing we said about this trade to get rid of Luca and add Anthony Davis?

That Anthony Davis gets hurt And he's already had three major injuries since he arrived in Dallas, Like first it was his ab thing that he was dealing with.

Then he had his retina detached over the summer and now it's his cat, Like, nah, bro, absolutely not, And there's no hate.

There's no hate for the people on the team.

That was the whole thing.

Those fire and neco chants weren't about we hate you.

They were about this was a stupid decision ended up in the like and like Cooper Flag's a rookie that was not the plan, got lucky and if you didn't get lucky, collusion, Like.

It was one of the other.

Like it's either you were lucky as ship or collusion.

That's that's pretty much how that works.

So like, man, we it was a it was a great day.

The number of people being like, my brother didn't know about this whole thing like that he just goes, hey, isn't that Dad's friend because that y'all know, I've said this before that my dad is like golf poker buddies with Nico Harrison.

So that became a whole thing this summer.

And I was like, yep, and I'm glad he's gone.

And I've been trying real hard not.

To troll dad all day.

So yeah, man, it's it's it's been good.

It's been that's the best possible way to wake up.

I can only think of one other one.

I can think of two other ones.

I can think of two other ways to wake up that would be glorious, yeah, and neither safe for work.

Say one of them involves my fiance.

So like I'm not you know, we're just gonna chill easy.

Will definitely dive.

Into it more For those of you who maybe not don't know about that.

Nico Harrison was fired by the Dallas Mavericks, the guy who traded Luca Donches to the Lakers, and Luca got into you Divorced Me shape, and he is killing it with the Lakers right now without Lebron.

They're eight and three.

Amazing stuff.

But of course the Mavericks are slowly sinking into the quagmire.

So we will get into that certainly a little bit later on in the show, and some NFL stuff as well, but we got to start with some DC news and just a reminder of the stream lab of super chats our open.

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We sent all our love out to the veterans who are were honoring Veterans Day today and any of the family members and friends who wanted them as well.

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Much love to them apps as well.

But we're starting off with this oh so not this on this one, this DC stuff.

Let's get into it.

Man Winston, you know you're on CAPON.

Coll's I host geek Buddies.

We talk about things of superhero nature.

And apparently today they announced that the Jimmy Olsen series is a go.

It's coming to us from the American vand ol guys.

Who if you guys remember that docu series which was hilarious from Dan Pearl and Toni Ya Senda.

They are taking over to show run this series and we're getting a Viva Vendetta series.

Some of you remember that movie from a few years ago.

No, you remember that mask.

If you know, the Outlaw and the Viva Vendentta series is happening under James Gunns Auspices as an executive producer.

We won't be show running it, but he will be epeing it.

So fascinating duo of announcements here, Winston.

On the DC side of things, what stands out for you?

Are you excited about a Daily Planet series with Schyler Joson No, leading is Jimmy Olsen.

There probably won't be a Low's Lane, probably won't be a Clark Kent, but you get everyone else including Wendell Pierce, Perry White there and then they be for Vendetta series.

What are your thoughts on this?

I mean, dude, I love v for Vendetta, so I'm I'm here for it to like have a series of it.

I'm curious.

I feel like if there was ever a time yeah to talk about you know, revolution and standing up to the authoritarian rule.

Hey, like, by all means, I'm surprised they got greenlit at all.

Yeah, I'm gonna be honest with you.

And especially if there is this this actual push to have Paramount by Warner r R, that might be the first thing they canceled like GOA be honest with you, they might be the first thing to be like Redundant CD, it will be gone.

But yeah, man, I'm here for it.

I honestly, like I'm not opposed to the Jimmy Olsen thing, but I just I still stand by the fact that, like I really really liked Superman, I just felt like it was a little overstuffed as far as characters.

I don't think that there were too many storylines, but I think you were doing a lot and so it'll be interesting to see that kind of roll out and follow that.

But I'm more interested in, like I don't know if I missed that in your breakdown, Like have they said anything more about the Mister Terrific project they were talking about.

Because no, not at all.

Nothing has been said recently about the Mister Terrific situation.

I would want that infinitely more yes than a Jimmy Olsen whatever, because the jit Like I think that he Skylar did a good job for what he was asked to do, but like it was about her what having ugly.

Toes or something.

Yeah, it was it was a stupid gag that like it was more interesting to see mister terrific's like behavior and how he was handling situations and how much of a badass he was then to like follow Jimmy around as he you know, gets bitches and and and stallves crimes like I don't like, I don't know, I just okay, yeah, I mean.

It's a it's a fascinating decision.

I have to believe James had this already in his mind with the casting, because he casts pretty much almost all TV actors to play the roles in in the Daily Planet except for Skyler, who has done of course a number of films.

So Scott of leading the way that makes sense as Jimmy Olsen, people love Jimmy Olsen.

I imagine you're gonna get Eve test Maker back, You'll have Kat Grant, you'll have the other people who were involved, and you might even get Michael ian Black as the counter to the Daily Planet.

That could be interesting as the right wing sort of approach to it.

Could be curious to see how that goes down.

But I and they're gonna introduce, you know, villains that they're gonna throw into that place where Peacemaker is in right now.

So I guess it's a way.

But this is.

I guess it's fine, But this is also a situation where didn't James say you weren't gonna need to watch everything to get what's going on?

And here we go a TV series that is probably going to introduce some of the villains they are going to be showing up in the theatrical universe first in the TV series.

And I want to go back to your reaction to it.

I've seen this from a lot of DC people online.

They're not necessarily that excited to see a Jimmy Olsen Daily Planet series that is not gonna have Lewis Lane or Clark Kent be a part of it.

So how exciting is this really going to be?

You know?

And so I just wonder if they made the right decision here by playing it safe with a Jimmy Olsen series, because just because you like Scotlar Gizondo does not mean that you should build a whole series around him as Jimmy Olsen.

You know.

No, I agree.

I think the way to do it, to be honest with you, would have had Skyler work with like a writer or something like that, and to do.

A Jimmy TikTok series.

To be honest with you.

Oh, that's a great thing.

That would have been really unique.

Yeah, you could have had that in the like keep a cont like you don't have to run it all the time, like maybe you've run it the course of a season of television.

So if you do it for you know, you can you obviously.

Can pre record everything, right, It's supposed to be taking place within the world of DC, not in the real world.

So shoot whatever you need to shoot, have that be live for like maybe a.

You know, a video a week type thing until the next Superman movie or till Supergirl or whatever, and and and do something like that, because again you could shoot if the course of time it takes to shoot a movie a couple of months, right yeah, or a TV show a couple of months, I guarantee you could probably get all the shit done in about three or four weeks, right uh, And and just have that all be shot and then release and do it that way.

That would have been interesting.

But just a straight TV show about Jimmy and doing all this, it's fine.

But like you said, if if the point is to not give homework, you're doing the exact opposite.

And it's not that Jimmy isn't an interesting character.

But the truth of the matter is, of all of the characters involved in Superman's life, for me, at least, he's not super high priority, like it's it's Clark slash Superman, it's Car slash Supergirl, it's Lois, it's Hell.

I'm surprised I didn't do a Crypto the way they did that.

I am groot she didn't do some sort of kid show with like with Crypto's Adventures or something like that.

You know, I would be more interested in a Daily Planet show than I would just a Jimmy show, Like if Jimmy was the lead of it, sure, but like you tried to force all these Daily Planet characters into my life.

I would rather you give me a show like I haven't seen the Paper.

I don't know if you did, if it was it or not.

It's a fine show, but it's fine.

I think, attack the Office, but do it with the Daily Planet and just call it the Planet like that would have been hilarious.

And you've already have comedic g I mean, Skyler is very funny, yeah, Beck, Bennett and Bennett like you got you got Ballers and at any time, like it's.

Like, where's Lois where's Clark?

It could be like, man, you know they screw it in the in the supply closet, or I don't know, he said he was on a vacation, or you can come up with any number of excuses, and maybe the every time you don't see Clark, you just see a blur go by of like like whatever, It's like, what the hell was that?

Man?

They got to fix that draft, Like there are so many things you could have done with that that I personally would have found more interesting.

So I'm just curious, like I'm going to need more details because just off rip, I don't care.

Well, do you does the fact that they're focusing on Gorilla Grod?

Because and they said the first season, so there's an implication that says going to be a multiple season show.

The first season would be focusing on Gorilla Grod, who's yes, well known to the people in the comic book bubble, but isn't really that well known to the casuals.

So is this go?

And you look at the numbers for Peacemaker, The numbers for Peacemaker were not good.

The viewership numbers.

If you look at the viewership numbers, only the finale was able to break the Nielsen Top ten ratings or whatever, but the other numbers for the the show were not great.

So that's an issue that well, is TV where you're supposed to be introducing these characters that you're going to launch into the theatrical universe as you're leading to some crisis on Infinite Earth type of thing.

Is this really the smart move?

I think there's a question to be asked about this decision.

Yeah.

I think the other element to it that's interesting is the idea of I've always known Gorilla Grod is like DC villain in general, but more.

As a Flash villain.

So it's also weird to me that it's not to say you can't have the crossover or the bleedover whatever.

It's the DC universe.

It is where it is, and he's font Superman plenty of times.

I just that's another thing that's just a little weird to me.

I guess, yeah, And I would also venture.

I guess it's not to say that these like super villains with crazy powers and stuff aren't something that Jimmy would potentially come across or anything like that, but there's something about Jimmy being able to overturn Alex Luthor's scandal, who's obviously a super villain.

But yeah, you know, you're talking about money and politics, which is more what journalists are gonna be able to do.

What story is Jimmy gonna write that's gonna overturn Gorilla Grod's grand plan?

Like, well, it'll mind scramble you and crush you like a soda can.

Like I'm not, It's just it's a little it's a little weird to me, unless he's like uncovering that Gorilla Grod was mind controlling the person behind something, in which case you've already ruined the fact that Grod's involved.

Right to me, I am not anti them rolling stuff out and putting stuff out there, But if you're just asking me about my interest and what I think about these kind of I'm they don't have me that excited because I just think there are better ways to potentially attack this, and I stand by the idea of and maybe the Jimmy Oulsten show is more at out the planet and it's just being Jimmy is the lead and that's the way you're going.

Okay, well, then I'll see that when we get the trailer or everything else.

But the initial announcement isn't isn't tickling my pickle at all, Like I'm chilling, Like I.

Know, I think of a content creator.

I went to lunch with recently and he told me, you know, the few weeks after Superman already been released, he was like, I still I'm gonna do one more Superman video and I was like, what people are still He's like, oh yeah, I got I can I can squeeze one more video out of it.

And this is what it feels like James Gunn is doing with his Superman saga right now, is that he's trying to like a content creator.

He's trying to squeeze out multiple videos but in this but in this case, there are multiple projects out of the success of Superman.

Let's get that sequel going, I've got Supergirl coming, I got to possibly miss a terrific series rolling through.

I've got I've got a a version of a Peacemaker season three, but it's gonna be something else.

And then I've got this Daily Planet show.

And so it's just like he's trying to squeeze everything out of this thing to create this saga, and I I don't know, I don't know necessarily people are going to be excited about it, and is it going to outstay its welcome?

You know.

The guys who wrote it or are going to write it wrote Strays, which was a fine funny movie, but there were some jokes that really didn't land in that comedy.

I loved every second.

Shit, Okay, your your cup of tea.

But I think the number one thing people and people are commenting in our chat saying it we want superheroes, we don't want this, and.

So that's the problem, right, That's that's the problem.

And I think that's where a lot of people would miss stuff.

The only time that that stuff works is like as a small offshoot and because it has a tie.

So I think about like some of the smaller things that Marvel did in like the the initial Infinity saga, like having the little short film thing where Thor has a roommate.

Yeah, the one shots, yeah, yeah, Like those were those were like interesting because like Thor was still involved.

You know, it's like so he's not you know, slinging lightning or anything, but the idea of him having a roommate of Mure being a.

Problem, like that's funny.

It's becomes a little fish out of water type scenario.

I even if it's like a comedy journalist thing, like I already you know that wasn't comedy, but I already watched the sort can show.

The newsroom already watched the morning show.

So like, again, this isn't necessarily a bad idea, but it's not exciting, you.

Know what I'm saying.

There's not that I.

Don't let me tell you how to run your studio, but you would think that like you said, we want Superhero, so put out Superman and then put out Supergirl and then put out you know, mister Terrific, and and Lanton like focus on the reason we're here.

Nobody nobody tunes.

In to Batman for Bob that you know, rob By two face, you know what I'm saying.

It's like they're interested in that storyline.

If he let me talk about the time I met Batman, and then the whole story is like okay, I gotta follow Bob around here, and it's like, oh man, and then you wan on this misaventure.

We have crazy you know what I'm saying.

That's why you're into it unless you're telling me that ultimately we're gonna see Hella soups involved in this Jimmy show.

Okay, yeah, you know what I'm saying, Like, I enjoyed Gotam for what it was, but I'm keeping at a book, like as interesting as Jim Gordon is, and he is interesting every day, we didn't have a Batman.

I was like, yeah, yeah, even when you're reading GCPD, which was a really good series, you wanted Batman in more, more of the series than he was and it just got a little at times.

We got a little frustrating.

So that's the things you run into.

And once you have the superheroes that are in their world, you've got to get them into a series.

So dude, I am literally imagining a Daily Planet show.

Shit, maybe I need to go pitch this a Daily Planet show again.

It's just like the officer doing a mockumentary style stuff or whatever.

Yeah, and it's like, okay, we got to get this deadline out.

You know, the the the Gotham Knights are playing the Metropolis Sentins and this is like the super Bowl Man, like, we gotta we gotta make it happen, you know, we gotta get down to the thing.

Oh dude, live Wire just came through it shorted out everybody's cars, like, we have no way to get to the stadium.

So then it's the whole sitcom episode of trying to get to the day thing.

They go to the they go to get on the train, the train shut down because live wire went through there too.

Like stuff like that would be hilarious and I would totally watch that because now you're you're you're taking what makes sitcoms funny.

Yeah, you're just plugging it into a superhero world.

That would be really funny.

But shit, maybe I do pitch this.

Somebody texts Coy, tell him I got an idea.

Yeah, so we'll see.

We'll see.

But the V for Vendetta one, I'm a little more excited about that, although I don't know.

I mean, I don't know too much about this dude's work.

Who is running the V for Vendetta one?

What is it?

Pete Jackson, not Peter Jackson, Pete Jackson, Death of Bunny Monroe, I don't know anything about that.

And the executive producers Ben Stevenson and Leeann Klein, of course, with Gunn and Peter Saffron, I don't know them too much.

But I, as you said, I love this series as well's.

I still have the first additions of the run, like I collected them, and I have them in one of my wooden boxes that I keep certain comics in because they were so precious to me.

And of course I bought the collection as well and enjoyed that.

So it's a really great story.

And you're right, the authoritarian approach for an hour, day and age is a fascinating thing.

But why do this?

Why do v for Vendetta?

Is this because you know, you made a lot of strong commentary and peacemaker about the authoritarian regimes and and even Superman to a degree, about the idea of what billionaires with power and tech bros.

So is this political commentary through?

Is that why he's chosen to be for Vendetta?

Because he wants to take a shot at Trump and the idea of what's going on now in our society.

It's a fascinating decision, especially because as is a very well known MAGA guy.

So for Gun to make this decision, I think is really curious.

And there's rumors, as you said, that whoever's gonna come in is gonna throw Gun out and start to see all over again.

If they sell Warner Brothers.

Is this gun trying to get this out before that sale eventually happens and he gets shut off, the off the DC brand, you know.

I mean we are coming up on the twentieth anniversary, so maybe that has something to do with it.

Yeah, yeah, it's it's it's just interesting.

I mean, they are supposed to be able to do what they want to do, so it is what it is, like, go for it.

But the air concerns, I'm I'm I'm concerned that we're gonna hear about this thing and it's gonna be super exciting, only for it to legitimately just be torn as under like the minute the sale happens, because it's been it's been straight up said yeah that they're done with the quote unquote woke stuff and we're gonna make it more MAGA friendly over here.

And and the the whole point like part of the thing is other then the idea of like, oh hey, you know, we want the ip of Warner.

That's why this idea of we're gonna ASTs all sorts of content.

I always thought it was silly that it was like, look, you by owning Paramount already and looking at CBS and how they've run things, They've cornered the market, and all sorts of stuff that people that are our Mega or Middle America or anything love, like, I mean legitimately, like every all the csis, the NCIS is Two Broke Girls when it was out, Big Bang Theory when it was out, What's the One now with Tim.

Allen and Kat Dennings Shifting Years.

There's a number of shows that that people love, So I don't understand the idea of not having a true media landscape board.

There's something for everybody.

This random idea of we're only going to show this one thing is kind of dumb, just because different people have different interests, have different belief systems, and the point of media is supposed to be this idea that you can not only see a reflection of yourself, that you could see other things.

Yes, this idea of clamping down on that, I don't think you should.

Like, I didn't rock with the Passion of the Crist when it came out, but I think it was there was a perfect place for people that that was important to them, you know what I'm saying, Like, that's the only part that's weird to me.

So I would love for this Viva Venetta thing to actually get made.

I would love for it to come out and whatever commentary would needs to be is going to be said out of it.

I think that that would be awesome, but I don't know if it'll survive it based off of just things that are going around now.

Mind you, a studio is not gonna stop announcing projects even if they didn't merger, you know.

So yeah, it is what it is.

Yeah, we'll see, We'll see what the end result is on these two shows, and we'll see what happens to the Paralyzed Law show that was supposed to be about them as Scara and the ladies there, the Amanda Waller show, you know what's going to go on with that.

So still some questions hanging around all of this stuff in these announcements, So we'll see, we'll see, we'll keep tabs on it.

Let's move on to this story.

What do you think about this?

Is this happened?

Sabrina Carpenter is apparently set to star and produce in an untitled movie musical based on Lewis Carroll's Alison Wanted to Land, which has been set up at Universal Pictures.

The original novel follows a girl named Alice who falls down a rabbit hole to land in a fantastic, nonsensical world of talking and human like animals, basically our work.

Previous adaptations, of course, the nineteen fifty one Disney one Tim Burton's One, which grossed over a billion dollars.

I still find that to be fascinating.

Hustler's writer director Lorenz Skafaria will penn and direct the film, while Mark Platt will produce alongside Leslie Morgenstein and at least a couple of its Dutton No word yet whether Ben Platt will have a role as a young child in that project.

And it's the project is to be passionate one for Sabrina Carpenter fashion project and she's been working on it for well over a year and what have you.

So I've seen her in SNL.

She's fine.

She's no Ariana Grande in terms of acting or whatever.

So it's just hilarious, Like arian is hilarious.

Yes, Ariana's great on that show.

Sabrina much less.

So does do you want to see this?

Does it make sense?

I don't know if I remember her much in on SNL, Like I can only really see Sydney.

Yeah, unfortunately in my mind's eye, which bro the best I've did Sydney go Back on SNL, or it was just the one episode.

I think it's just that one episode because like the only thing I remember from that one episode that genuinely had me laughing was either the Hooters episode, which wasn't even her doing anything, it was just them being like titties money like, and then what bo and the Bowen is Straight thing, which was funny.

Yeah, I don't remember Sabrina Carpenter on SNL, to be honest with just.

A couple of weeks ago.

Again, I haven't.

I haven't watched a single episode this season yet.

I think I was so turned off by all the random firings.

I was just like, I'll get to so eventually I'll watch.

But but look, man, she started off as.

An actress and before she really got into music, because you know, she's doing all the Disney stuff because like what she was in What the Hate You Give, which she was good at that.

She was in the Girl Meets World series, So you know, I'm I'm willing to check it out and see what's going on there.

I just I've never been big into musicals.

Personally, I make exceptions, but I whatever, I don't need to.

Be so base about everything to day.

But I'm kind of like, it's fine.

Yeah, I haven't seen she hasn't impressed me in anything that she's ever done.

And don't give me Disney stuff.

I mean, come on, don't even it's not even actually a good child actress though, sure fine for Disney.

Okay, fine, but like that's not I mean, there's plenty of them, right, I mean, Brittany was good on Disney and know that or out.

The thing you look at this is that, well is it gonna is?

Can she make the jump?

Right?

And there was questions about Ariana Grande and then you saw a Wicked and we're like, okay, she can make the jump.

Will Sabrina be able to make the jump?

I think less so from what I've seen on ESNL in other places.

So I don't know if this is going to make sense.

But Scafario writing and directing it is very curious to me.

Considering what she did with Hustlers, which was pretty amazing, what is her angle on Alice in Wonderland?

And I now, I'm really curious to see where she's going to go with this.

I don't know what her experiences with musicals or directing musicals or what have you.

So who are they going to bring in to be the musical composer or coordinator for this, to create the lyrics and music and songs.

Will it be all Sabrina songs?

Will it be other people?

So there's questions to be had.

That being said, this is clearly a property that makes money.

I mean that the Disney film is one of the most revered animated films ever, and the Tim Burton one made a million a billion dollars, so there is a market for also want to lane.

I just wonder what a current adaptation, what the commentary is on it.

If Sabrina will be great, we will see.

I mean, I'm looking back at this man and because now I was like, okay, let me go and just check her, like go and check her stuff, Like first of all, yeah, Sabrina's got Sabrina's got some steaze, bro, because I forgot she was that.

I've seen every episode of SVU way too many times.

She was in one way back on twenty eleven, like she was young, but she was really good.

I do remember this episode and she did a good job that she couldn't have been older than maybe six, right, like something like that.

But she did good there.

But then beyond that the hate you give I do remember if I like, she was like the main kind of like white girl friend slash antagonist to the main character who was like deal like went to that white, super rich prep school and was dealing with like a bunch of you know, microaggressions and like racism within that school, right while dealing with like, you know, back in her neighborhood, like you know, family members getting killed and all sorts of stuff, you know what I'm saying.

So, like, Sabrina was very good in that too, man, So I I I am not as worried about her acting as I am about Okay, we're getting to Alice in Wonderland the last couple of these, let's dive back into Disney kind of classic princess stories haven't done so hot.

So like, I'm more thinking about snow White than I am worried about Yeah, Sabrina's acting, you know what I'm saying, Like, that's more where my mind goes.

Well, it'll be number one on streaming, as Rachel Zegler reminded us, earlier this week.

You know, so maybe that Alison number one is snow White number one on streaming for a little bit.

It was when it dropped on Disney, So you know, look, everybody, Look, that's the funny thing.

It's not universal, but if you were a big name project, whether it was good or bad, you're gonna be number one in streaming for at least a week because people want to go, Okay, what was it that everybody was talking about?

Exactly exactly?

Now, yeah, all the bad Marvel films come out and they're at number one in the streaming of that week.

We want to check it out.

So we'll see, we'll see what this happens with Sabrina and where it goes overall.

But all right, let's get into the thick of our conversation.

Man, let's get into Sydney Sweeney here.

Let's talk about her overall.

She was the talk of the town this week.

Christy came out over the weekend absolutely bombed at the box office.

But before it came out, she gave a number of interviews about the situ.

She gave an interview with GQ about the jeans ad and the backlash.

Remember she said she didn't want to talk about it when she was at Ida, think it was Venice or Toronto, And now she's talking about it, and this interview has become kind of a train wreck in terms of the reaction from people to this.

So let's play it.

Let's play a snippet of it and see what you all think of this, and we'll talk about we're sort.

Of talking around this American ego ad right now and maybe we should just talk about it.

So were you surprised by the reaction?

I did a gene ad?

Okay, were you surprised by the reaction?

Winston?

And her reaction is I did a gene ad Like it was no big deal.

Like the reaction wasn't like she wasn't involved in the writing and the conception of this, wasn't involved with the way it was put out and then people's response to it.

I mean, the reaction definitely was a surprise, but it was I love gens.

Oh, I wear jeans.

I'm literally in jeans and a T shirt like every day in my life.

Genes are uncontroversial, Genes are awesome.

I think I know how you're gonna answer this, but I'm going to ask anyway.

I mean, the president tweeted about the genes AD or she was social about the genes ad and that just seems to me like a very crazy moment for anyone.

And I wondered what that was like.

It was surreal.

It was surreal, all right, So what are your thoughts on this?

Winston?

I didn't expect a real answer out of her.

Okay, to be honest, like, I don't because she there was another part of that interview where she goes there was something I wanted to say, I would say it right, well, yeah, whether that is her or her PR team, they have done a very good job of letting the.

People that want to be all about her, Yes for it, yeah, but not.

It's so like they they're not going to ever directly acknowledge it, but they're not going to turn it away because the main thing that they're trying to do is to have her star rise.

And it's pretty clear right now in the public eye, she is more clout for the conservative base that's like she's blonde and got titties than like people that are like, man that Sidney Sweeney's a powerful actress, you know what I'm saying, Like it's even with because I've I said this about about Christy that like, I thought that her emotional highs were actually fantastic, and I thought that that would probably be enough to get her a nomination.

Where I take pause though, the moments where she's gotta be kind of even or like even be low energy, her accent was dropping.

It felt like she wasn't always engaged.

It felt like I wasn't watching Christy.

I was watching Sidney Sweeney talk to somebody else like that's so that was my little beef there, especially when you have a Ben Foster who was on a tear.

He did such a good job.

So again, if I'm grading her, I'm giving her like a BB minus on that.

Like, I don't think that she was like she was like bad, but I didn't think that she blew me.

But those moments that she was like, we really need this three pointer.

Oh she hid it from the logo like that.

I had those moments, But then when it was time to go do a layup, I was like, So I say all that to say that, like, I am not surprised because this is then on the flip side of this, I'm sure you've seen the tweets that have gone around about the PR team.

To bunk those tweets.

They've already been they've already been bunked.

Yeah, because that that isn't Paradigm's actual website address and signature.

So okay, critics have stacked out to say it was not true.

Great, it wasn't.

I wasn't sure one way or the other, like cause there I saw too.

I saw the one from Paradigm, and then there was another one of somebody saying, hey, it's positive on the popcorn meter like the Little Box Office.

That was also the bunk two.

Yes, okay, then then you know, I to that point, like I don't want to feed the beast.

So it is what it is.

That's why I just want to focus on her responses and her and and let's play the other one as you were mentioning here, Winston, which I think is also the part of the one that.

The criticism of the content, which was basically that maybe specifically in this political climate, like white people shouldn't joke about genetic superiority like that was kind of like the criticism broadly speaking.

And since you are talking about this, I just wanted to give you an opportunity to talk about that specifically.

I think that when I have an issue that I want to speak about, people hear so that is such.

So so here's the deal.

You got a factor in this one.

She's a young person, right, so you got to throw that in.

How many of us knew what the fuck was going on politically really well and in depth and incisively at that age is and especially someone who is working constantly on stuff.

You're right now, she may be maga, yes or no.

I don't know.

It certainly seems to feel that way, but we don't know.

But there was an opportunity here to say something about how people responded to the ad And to me, she is dismissing it and scoffing at it and laughing about it and trying to diminish it right and underplanned, and you had a few people respond to it aimily would put a vomiting emoji.

This photographer that I retweeted went off on her about not understanding it, and so I hear that.

You can say, well, she's unfairly being But there is a responsibility you have to speak about this stuff when you kind of broach the subject like this in the way that it was interpreted, and it's an easy way to just step forward and say I understand people have said about was completely not my intention.

I really was an insid ad.

But I will be you know, in the future, I will be more conscious of this kind of stuff because I respect all people.

What is really confusing about Sydney though, is that she chooses to do shows and TV stuff that are really left leaning.

She doesn't do right leaning stuff.

I mean, that was the thing that was interesting about Christie flopping if your quote unquote the Maga princess that the people are saying you are, or at least that she's been claimed between the Trump tweet and whatever else, they're not gonna show up to go watch a lesbian Lean's kind of like the lack of like butch, you know, like a butch lesbian fighter that's dealing with her domestic violence husband.

And it's kind of like talking about how the South and Christian way in which she was raised was like not you know what I'm saying, Like, none of that is going to align with the people that are caping for one way or the other.

So like that was an interesting Like again, I get why she did it.

It's good Oscar Baiten, Like again, I think she also did really well with the fight training and everything else that was also really well done.

It's just it's just interesting in that regard.

But I but I will say this there, well, I don't love that answer.

Yeah, I'm also of the mindset that, like as ft as that was, I think it got kind of blown so far out of proportion, especially considering some of the other things that were going on at the time.

Right, Like it's one of those things where if she had even said what you would suggested, the number of people that would have slammed her.

Oh, you're just.

Like if her point is to keep her brand up, that was Like, no, nobody, nobody on the left is really rocking with her that hard.

And that's what I'm saying.

I think she's getting fucked from button to learn, not to not to mean that in any way physical, but like she's in the middle of it.

I apologize.

I think she's getting I think she's in the middle of both, right, Like the mag of people are using her for their culture war, but they're not showing up to see her projects or her movies.

Like she's had four flops in a row in the movie theater, one of them directed by Ron Howard, for God's sake.

So she's at four flops in a row in the movie theaters.

You can argue is she's choosing the right projects blah blah blah.

But she does herself no favors even to try to curry the left with these answers in this interview.

By the way, I am so so tired of interviewers who sheepishly ask tough questions.

And I get it.

You can write I was gonna say that too, but like this, I hope it's okay if I ask you this question and.

I did not.

I did not like that at all.

Bro.

That made me uncomfortable because if you're gonna ask a hard question, I need you to be sure of yourself.

It's kind of this, without getting graphic, if if you want to do some kind of freaky with your lady, if you're like, would it maybe be okay?

It's like you, I don't know, Like if a suck to toast, like you know what I'm saying, if you're gonna make her feel awkward when you say it like that versus like a girl let me see them feet like you know what I'm saying.

Those are same thing.

If you're gonna get into the mix with the political question seeing Sydney.

This is gonna be kind of a rough question because I know it's kind of wild.

But jeans ad came out, there were people talking about eugenics and stuff like that.

Did you know what it was about?

Do you have anything to say?

Do you feel any sort of responsibility to go for it?

Yes, I'm just gonna mebi ask you had a know way you're feeling about it, So if you do any answer, I understands somebody do it anyway, like bro, come on, Yeah, And this is what happens now because you have the studios who are very hyper sensitive about who they allowed have access to their talent and their creatives.

Now they rarely let them go on shows, or they rarely go on shows that are gonna challenge him.

And James Gunn did this whole round of interviews.

He went on no channel that challenged him with some of his hypocritical statements or confusing statements.

None of them challenged him on any of that stuff.

And so they carefully pick and choose same thing here.

I think they vetted this.

GQ interviewer saw that she was gonna be like kind of cowed by Sydney, and she asked a very meek question and Sidney, rightfully so just kind of steamrolled her.

And you could have absolutely put her on the spot and had her answer the question and whatever if she walks out, she walks out, fuck her, like you've got journalism has to come back.

This is so ridiculous.

What's happening across the board that these people, because they can sell your lines really believably on a camera, all of a sudden, are revered in this way that you can't ask them questions.

They're fucking human beings.

I'd asked George Clooney, shit like you got to put people on the spot.

It's just so frustrating to see this kind of stuff.

And I get it because I understand that there is this quick.

Backlash that's happening to people sometimes when they asked said question.

So like you, if you're going to act like an ass, you're gonna get called out for being an ass, Like thinking about you know, the Julia Roberts Ada Biri, like you saying like that that journalist was an idiot because you decided to ask a gendered racial question to everybody but the one person who would affected completely one person that technically it wouldn't affect just being a white man, and then the other like yes, as a woman, but you also asked about black Lives matter, so like.

What are you doing?

That was bad journalism.

It's just as bad to go in with an agenda as it is to not be strong enough to actually stand by your convictions.

So if even if that, even if that journalist.

Had said, like going back to the AO thing, being like, I do actually want to hear your answer as well, but I want to ask Julia Andrew first, just because they're not uniquely tied to the scenario as you might be.

Ale.

I would love to hear your response to this, and then do you have anything that you feel differently about that would be the way you do that.

You know what I'm saying, but it's how she did.

She very clearly I stuffed the black woman.

So in the same breath, on the flip side of it, Now you've got a scenario where you have this opportunity to ask this quote unquote hard name question and the one controversy she was involved in, right, and you don't have the stones to just say it, Yeah, you made me uncomfortable asking that question.

And this is this is I saw someone to say, well, this is entertainment journalism.

No it isn't.

This is kat Stoffel, who is the features director at GQ magazine.

This isn't fucking screen ramp Rant or Movie Web or even Collider.

These are journalists who are going in who can ask questions that are incisive.

Right.

She's worked for Bustles, She's worked for the Heirst Digital Media.

She was a senior editor at Conde and Asked for three years.

So she started out at BuzzFeed when she started twenty fifteen, but she worked at New York Magazine for three years.

This is not a woman without an incredible resume of reporting and be and training as a journalist.

So to me, that's the thing that shocked me when I was watching it.

It's like, come on, you you're you're someone who has put people on the spot before.

You've got to be able to do that.

So this wasn't your standard entertainment journalism.

You know, this was a legitimate journalist who who and on and on.

Top of that, I try not to like be floating around in the comments and just focus on what we're talking about.

Someone saying well, why don't we stop asking actress political questions?

And it is active about acting?

Well, guess what this was about an ad that she acted in, So what are what are we talking?

What?

What are we talking about?

And when you're asking about Black Lives matter and me too, especially considering what the movie was about.

Yes, if you understood specifically what the movie that Ale and Andrew and Julia were in about sexual inappropriateness with a student and if it was real, if it was fake.

It is directly tied to what the movie is about.

Yeah, so it's okay to like, no, you should not randomly if I'm going in John Man, great to see you, bro, like amazing, Like you know, you're doing this movie about the Smurfs.

We're so proud of you.

So what do you think about the war and casa?

Like that?

Why does that have to do with the Smurfs?

That makes a little more sense to be like that seems like that's coming out of left field.

But literally, this is about something that she acted in.

This was not specifically about Christy.

This was about her and her career and that was a major project that she was in that got a lot of attention.

So it makes logical sense.

Come on now, Yeah, exactly, And yeah, I mean it's like you can question George Clooney about him writing that op ed about about Joe Biden.

You can absolutely question him in this situation.

I don't see.

I think the thing that the bag of playbook is to do something that is controversial and then act all sheepish about it, as if other people are reacting like we're seeing super saying with his ridiculous comments throughout our entire conversation.

Here's like manufactured controversy.

Magga told me it's manufactured, therefore I must believe it is manufactured.

And it's like it's that kind of thing, and it's like, no people legitimately saw what was going on here the coded language.

Watch Spike Lee's bamboozled to see the history of coded language in throughout ads and advertisements that gone on for years in our country.

And so this is the thing that brought up and they, of course the idea of eugenics, the idea of genes that goes all the way back to slavery times, you know, And so this is these things that this ad was touching.

Now, do I think Sydney Sweeney is some kind of incredibly intelligent and malevolent person who was manipulating.

No.

I think though that she was involved in something and then people maybe around her her team, saw that this could go in a certain direction, get attention for herself in a certain way, and kind of poke the political bear a little bit, which people do for attention nowadays.

And it's blown up in her face to a degree because look at the Christy box office, look at the the last few films she's that there is.

She's not a star in any way, shape or form other than on TV in Euphoria, and Zendaiya is the bigger star arguably than she is.

But I'll say this but clearly, I want to make it clear.

I think she's a damn good actress.

I think she's a damn good actress.

I want to make that clear.

But the thing is that this kind of stuff is so under Yes, I do think.

I think Sidney Sween is a damn good actress.

I do.

And I liked her in Christie more than you did.

I liked her in Christie more than which, of course is all subjective, so I'm not judging your opinion.

It's which is like you know, when I've seen her in Euphoria, but imculate.

I thought she was part of the reason why I love her.

I haven't seen Immaculates, I can't speak to that.

But part of the reason why I loved her in Euphoria is because that character is constantly out of ten.

So that's part of what But that's my whole point.

Yeah, yeah, she's better higher and she has three point shot her slam dunk.

Whatever you want to say is like the show body like man crazy handle whatever.

That's fine if you want to whatever analogy you want to use.

My problem is just the direct interaction stuff where I'm like, well, now I don't feel like you're in the world that you're in.

I just feel like you're just saying the lines and that that's that's where I want into issues.

With their acting.

But that's again different conversation for where like my point in that like my my best example of that outside of Christy anyone.

But you I don't think there's any reason that that movie should have necessarily been that bad.

Yeah, it felt like Glenn Pale was literally putting her on his back and dragging her through the movie.

So like you know what I'm saying, like that, like that's yeah, that's my whole thing.

I mean, Madam Webb was a bad movie as a whole, but like I also was like ah, Like I was like really, and you're trying to sell me on her being like some super nerdy, not attractive come on now.

So, like all that being said, again, if the stuff you're going to partake in, it's gonna have anything that is going to be tied to some sort of potential message, or even if you're not doing it, you're gonna be cheeky about something to try and poke the bear because controversy gets clicks, and clicks means money, yep, and that means it's all open for discussion.

There's plenty of ads that come out that are like awesome that don't intentionally flirt with the line.

Yes, that was why this became a thing.

You decided to flirt with the line.

I think it was overblown, right, You flirted with the line.

So that means you're gonna have to deal with what that means.

There's nothing wrong with people looking at something, reacting to it, and then you being asked about it, and you addressing that concern to scoff at it, to smirk at it.

To smile at it and say I'll speak about it when I'm ready to speak about it.

There is a sense of dismissiveness, condescension, and essentially coharrison undercutting of people's legitimate points of views or feelings about a situation.

It isn't the last thing you want to do.

If you're trying to brand yourself as a person who is good for everybody to watch, isn't the last thing you want to do is alienate people?

See the stupid fallacy MAGA has that they say over and over against Oh why do this?

You're gonna alien half the audience.

Guess what if you cater to Maga, you're alienating half the audience.

So there's no fucking difference.

So you want to be able to be appealing to all sides of the spectrum, especially as you're starting out.

So I just found that to be inauthentic of her.

It isn't her opinions, it's an inauthentic response that didn't want to address the situation and say, Okay, I can hear.

I see what people are saying.

I don't agree, but I see what they're saying, and if they were offended, I apologist wasn't my intention.

There is nothing wrong with clarifying that.

And yes, if you say the bend to the woke mob, fine, but you didn't bend to the left mob.

And guess what, Nobody went to see your fucking movie but a lesbian who gets out of a domestic violent situation to embrace her life as a lesbian so she can be happy with her life.

And it was a good movie.

It wasn't a great movie, but it was a good movie.

It deserved a better box off was that it got.

But I think the last part of it is we got to take into consideration.

It was a.

Indie film, a small production company.

They did not market it very well.

Most people didn't even know it was out.

And you're in the midst of like Predator Badlands and you're about to hit Wicked, and you just came out of spooky season, so like five Night if Freddy's is about to drop, and and like there's a lot of stuff.

The only reason that I was aware that Christy was even coming up as both a for what I do for a living and B I happened to go to a screen unseen and it was the thing that was there, and I thought it was a smart thing to put it on screen un scene to try and get some buzz going about it.

But on top of that, that screen unseen was two weeks ago.

This was not like it just happened in order like the week of which a lot of screen un scenes happened.

They come out on the Monday, for it to drop on Friday.

It was the Monday, two mondays before the Friday came out, and therefore the box off off kind of probably took like all of the marketing steps fell off.

And I don't know if it's just they didn't have the money to go full tilt this is what you got or what it was, but it was a I would I would.

I would say that this was less like Chrissy didn't do well, less because of a political thing that went down, and more because of just missteps as a movie being presented.

You know what I'm saying, right, But I don't think you can discount it.

That's what I'm getting.

You can't discount it.

But I don't think it's the reason like that don't reason either.

I don't, but I think it's one of the reasons.

This way, if if, if, if your your quarterbacker now is what Marcus Mariota.

I didn't want to throw jade into it.

I didn't want to make it feel bad if Marcus Bardriota.

If Marcus Marcus Mariota throws four interceptions and they're in the red zone when you guys are supposed to be scoring touchdowns and you know, no points.

But then you have one dude over on special teams who fumbled and.

They got the ball back like early.

Yeah, that's part of the problem.

That's another turnover.

But one of your players accounted for four of them, and four times when you were supposed to be scoring, Like, I think that there's there was there were bigger problems at play as to why the movie didn't work fair.

Yeah, but I don't think that.

I don't even think marketing is the one reason.

I think the number one reason is nobody knows who Christy Martin is anymore, and they did a while through the movie.

I thought like, I literally didn't know myself exactly.

And I think that's the reason it bombed, is that no one knows her.

Just like the Smashing Machine, no one knows Mark Kurr.

They all fucking know the Rocket.

Even that film didn't do well because No one knows Mark Kurr and they're not that interested in the story.

No one knows Christy Martin.

Yes, guy, thanks for clarifying.

She's not a UFC fighter as a boxer.

Yes, thanks for clarifying.

Y'all can calm down now.

But like that's the situation there.

She wasn't that well known, and you couple that with the marketing, which I agree, Black Bear does not have the reach that Neon or A twenty four or Focused Features and these other more of artistic or art house type of approach would have even if it went into Warner Brothers or something like.

There's a reason all these studios turned that movie down because they probably sensed it wasn't gonna it was gonna be a hard sell and they didn't want to send their sink their dollars into it.

And in the end they were proven right because nobody went to see this movie.

It was I mean, and that was the thing.

It was indeed a hard sell.

Yes, just because you you you still have to take it in consideration.

Like one, people are not for the most part going to the movies.

There are except yeah, true, yeah, but they're really not.

You kind of unfortunately have trained them, Yeah, to watch it at home, So dramas watch it home.

Yes, unless it is Unless it is an event movie, people are typically not showing up and so that what would have been smart if you didn't have the market to really pump that out like that.

Yeah, maybe work out a deal where Christy drops on streaming first and if it's blowing up and people are loving it, then do what K Pop Demon Hunters it did, and then go back and put it in theaters as like a either.

Like, I know that the rules still exist for it to even be Oscar nominated, it does have to spend some time in the theaters.

I would have dropped it on streamers first and then in December release it for a week or so, right, But I think that was the thing they were trying.

They obviously want the Oscar noms.

They were trying to get some money out of this, and that I think is probably where you ran into a little bit of trouble unfortunately.

Yeah.

Look, she the first trailer when it dropped got seven point seven million views two months ago.

Right, If those seven million people or eight million people had gone to see the movie, we might have a better You might have had a better box office result, right, But I think what you're saying is correct.

People saw the trailer, maybe we're interested, and we're like, fuck it, I'll wait till it comes on streaming in a couple of weeks.

It was not an event type of film.

It's not I gotta go see it that weekend because everyone's gonna be talking about it.

Absolutely not.

And you're right, Predator, bad Lands, other bigger films.

They came out and absolutely squashed it, and so you see that as a as a result, and it's not the only one.

And I want to give credit with credits to Sidney Sweeney to say, you know, we don't in reaction to the box office and the floff, like I don't make movies just for numbers.

You know, it's for impact.

And if anyone who has survived or is in a domestic violence situation sees my movie and reacts and gets out of it, then I've done something good.

And I can't deny that.

That's actually a very sweet sentiment, and I agree with her.

I think that's great.

But I give her so much credit not only for that statement, but one of the things that I actually endeared me to Sydney going into the movie.

Yeah, was during the screen unseen she was like, Hey, I'm Sidney Sweeney.

You're good about to watch you know, Christy, Yeah, this is the type of movie, the movie that makes me not only appreciated love what I do for a living, but it encourages me to work harder and do all those things.

Like it was very endearing to hear what she had to say, whether it was prescripted or it came.

From the heart.

It was a smart move because I found myself watching it at that point being like, all right, girl, come on, this is it.

This is the moment that you become the champ.

Like your acting skills going hit like out of ten, let's go.

And again at moments like the powerful moments like the major domestic violence scene in the third act.

She is incredible, absolutely incredible in the lead up to in the actual during in the after, she was crushing it.

It would be stuff at like the dinner table at the beginning that I was like, okay, like you know what I'm saying.

That would be the stuff where I'd be like when she's needing to prove to Rodney King, not Rodney King, Jesus, oh my god, Don King just trying to don king that she's got the stuff.

I thought she was.

No, No, I got this and like like again heightened emotions, yes, stellar acting.

Yeah, it was when she needed to lower it.

And so like I just say all that to say that I think that this movie there was a bunch of random miscues.

But if their ultimate goal wasn't necessarily to blow the box office up, if it was just to get these actors and maybe this script or whatever on the map for for nominations, yeah they did a good job for that.

But that's that's That's about all you're probably gonna see out of this out at the end of the day.

Yeah, yeah, I think so too.

I think Ben it'll be lucky to get nominated.

He deserves to get nominated.

I don't think Sydney's getting nominated at all, unfortunately, But like I think this is what it's gonna end up.

As we'll see.

We'll see.

All right, Well, let's we're almost out of time, so we gotta make our left turn into sports.

Let's talk about it.

Do you want to talk about Nico Harrison is out as the m as the GM of the Dallas Mavericks.

This is happening.

He has gone.

The situation was untenable.

Fire Nico Chance breaking on the stands, as you said, and of course the Lukadancis trade, and as you mentioned earlier, the Anthony Davis debacle as he's been oft injured like he was playing for the Lakers, has come to bite them in the ass, and now he is out.

This is It's not necessarily a surprising tournaments, but I thought the speed with which it happened is really surprising because I thought they were gonna give him a full season to see how his moves worked out.

Because this is the guy who made moves, some bold moves that helped them reach the finals a couple of years ago.

So it is surprising that he's not being given like at least one season to see if this experiment.

Kyrie is not playing, so like there's I thought there was time, but clearly the situation became untenable.

Your thoughts here, man, I.

Mean, but see that this is where they had a problem.

Okay, It's one thing to trade the biggest star potentially in the league, if not the biggest top three, top five, like when you look at Jersey Sales, when you look at his international appeal, all that kind of stuff.

It's one thing to do that, another thing to do it in the middle of.

The night, and to try and sneak it out of there because like and the argument was what we had to because people would have been upset.

I wonder why they would have been upset.

Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

So there's all of that.

Then on top of that, this isn't the first quote unquote mistake that he made.

He had this whatever sort of vendetta that was anybody that was essentially quote unquote enabling or friendly to he got rid of.

Like, it's not lost on me.

The Casey Smith story that came out of the trainer who was like out of town work for his dying mother, and Nico sent a text talking about, Hey, I need you to come in the office.

We need to talk.

And he's like, I can't do that right now.

I'm at my mom's dying Okay, Well then I'm gonna set up a video conference call.

This will be quick, right, dude.

That, Like, those are the.

Type of things when you hear those stories, people are like, oh, there's no humanity here.

You went kind of you went kind of like in and then you have the audacity to laugh in our faces as fans, to be like, you'll get over it.

Winning fixes things, like you guys, just the fortune favors the bold.

I didn't know they cared about Lucas so much.

Those are the types of things where I'm like, so you don't understand what half of your job is.

One half of your job is to put a team together that can go and win stuff, And the other half of your job is to put a team together that people want to buy jerseys and they want to buy season tickets and they want to go and root for their favorite player.

There were certain things that you did that made a lot of sense, like going to get Kyrie.

People were a little confused because Kyrie had some like troubling stuff before.

And all that kind of stuff.

It was a baller, but ultimately pairing them together ended up being fantastic, and people were talking about, is this is the greatest backcourt we've ever seen?

Like those are the conversations that were being had at the time.

So it's this weird mentality and there's stuff that I know because of my own connection and stuff.

But again, there were no arguments that were being made that made it enough, especially when you decided if you really feel defense wins championships.

You had a couple games before before Anthony Davis got hurt and has been out.

They were the worst defense in the league before the injury, and then they got worse.

Yes, so your grand master plan of we got defense, now you don't.

You can't score to save your life.

I understand that everybody was hurt, but like, we had.

Almost a full season of this plan of yours because it started back in February.

Anthony Davis instantly got hurt and didn't play for like what five weeks or whatever the hell it was, and then kind of played a little bit at the end.

And then the one thing you kept talking about with Luca.

All day was he's fat.

He's fat.

That and the star you traded for came back overweight and like his whole thing.

I get it.

He was like, Hey, guys, come down, I get it.

That kind of happens the off season.

I play into shape.

You know why that doesn't sound good because that was the same thing that was said about Luca.

He plays his way into shape over the course of the season.

Because a lot of the conversation was, man, if you can only come into the season that in shape that he was knew that this would be a different confience.

Like all the things that you made excuses as to why this was such a good plan, none of that was panning out.

And you were the last in the league when you had just gone to the finals a season and a half ago.

So like, nah, bro, like I.

Do I feel maybe a little bad from a completely take me out of my fan based mindset that he didn't get to see his plan fully into fruition.

A little sure, yeah, baby, bit that the human logical side of me, but everything else as a fan, as somebody that doesn't like being talked down to, which is what it felt like Nico was doing the people for questioning his logic.

Here, you're no better than Kevin Stefanski.

If you really got beef with Luca like that, just say it.

Look lucas an asshole.

He was doing this, that and the other, and then slam him and then and then do it if you really, if it's really like that, then layout receipts.

If Kevin Stefansi's got something on Shador, he doesn't work hard enough, he's not doing this, he's not doing that, he's not ready, then put it out there, but instead you keep tap dancing around it, so you look like the ass and therefore no sympothy can be had for you because you're not making a case to defend yourself.

Yeah.

Yeah, I think the quizzical thing for me is that the owner seemed to be escaping any blame, and I think that needs to stop too, because it wasn't like Nico could do whatever he wanted.

The owners are like, we're so blind, we have no idea, We'll just take your word for it.

No, these are guys who are spending the money they signed off on the trade.

So I think Nico is in time.

Is yes, arrogant, condescending all of that, concede all of that, But I also think he's a little bit being made the fall guy for what the management wanted to do, which was to save money.

So they're using this guy as the fall guy because they didn't want to pay Luca the max extension.

They save that money.

But now they fucked their own team.

So let's fire Nico because Nico is the one who's the face of this whole thing, because we made him the face of this whole thing.

But eventually that the anger has got to turn on the owners as well, who approved this kind of thing, because once Nico's out of the way, guess what, you don't have a buffer to stop people being upset all for the rest of the season for your decisions and doing this.

So now it's going to be about turning their anger towards the owners, and I think that's going to eventually happen as the season goes on.

I think it was a mistake to fire Nico.

Now keep him on for the whole season, Let him be your let him be your shield against people's anger until the end of the season, and then boom money.

Yeah, they would have.

You would have never had time to do that because of money, because because the problem was not only were you having these chants completely throughout these games, at these home games, you were the laughing stuck the internet was constantly every single loss.

And if the point is to try, I would also not be surprised if there was something along the lines that Nico maybe even took himself out of, Like if he still believes in his stuff that much, it needs to come off as a firing because then it looks like whatever.

And then on top of that, I believe these guys can do it.

You have to take out the distraction.

You were the distraction.

So I say all that to say that, like again, it wasn't just the move going down, it was how he then decided to write and how he defended it.

And I and my brother, who really doesn't follow basketball like that, Like and I mentioned earlier, was like, oh man in that Dad's friend blah blah, bah blah blah.

I told him.

I was like, this is one of two things.

Either a he made a bad decision that he thought was a good one and therefore deserved to lose.

His job for it.

Or if it really was the owners came you said, we're not paying Luca, figure out how to get rid of him or to solve this problem.

You allowed yourself to be a pawn for this, in which case you were a weak willed individual.

And neither of those things look good.

You're either you either had some dicey moves previously is a GM that worked out, and then you made a real you You decided to go all in on a pair of twos when they were showing three threes out of the thing.

You're like, I got a full house, bro, not even thinking about what if he has a higher pair of anything and has a higher full house.

What if it like like you didn't even you even.

Remotely try to pretend to do that, including the idea that supposedly like it came out that supposedly they were gonna get too first out of the whole thing.

But Polinka was able to be like, look, bro, we gotta keep it secret, we gotta move fast.

I'll give you one like which, then again, what what is your negotiations go in?

What world do you trade a twenty five year old just starting to get into their prime for somebody who is at the tail end of their prime.

Then they maybe have a couple more years, but it's already injury prone, and you get one first for him for someone who was first team All NBA like six out of his seven seasons.

And Rookie of the Year.

Are you out of your mind?

Yeah?

It just across the board.

Even if you put all these pieces together that add up and make some grand defensive stand of a team, every way this was handled was wrong.

Yeah.

Yeah, I don't disagree with you all across the board.

All across the board, I don't disagree with you here.

It is everybody I think that I did know Luca was important to the fan base, I didn't quite know to what level.

Yeah, that's which is the world.

That's utter nonsense.

Like people who aren't even gms of the Dallas Mavericks understood regular fans understood how important Luca was that.

How can you not understand that being in the building, seeing every game, being in the building for the games, how can you not understand how important Luca was to the fan base.

It's nonsense.

It's it's it's a nonsense narrativity's floating out there.

That is utter bullshit.

He lined through his team.

He lies averaging thirty seven of the game.

He's averaging almost ten points more now per game than he did at the height of his abilities with the Mavericks.

Thirty thirty seven point one points a game, forty nine point one percent from the field, thirty three percent from three, nine point four rebounds, nine point one assists, one point one steals, and point four blocks.

So even his defense has gone up after all of the crap you wanted to give him about that, Like, I just.

Yeah, he's the situation, that's the thing.

They blew it all across the board with that, We'll see what happens going forward with them.

Oh, let's get to the NFL.

So I know, we got some questions to get to here.

Winston Real Quick.

Week ten in the NFL, the Broncos sqreaked by the Raiders and one of the ugliest games you ever gonna see.

The Colts came back and open time overseas to beat the Falcons in Berlin.

The Bears came back on the Giants, which cost the job of Brian Dabole.

In the end, the Dolphins shocked the Bills and made everyone wonder about Josh Allen.

The Bills as pretenders to the throne.

The Ravens continue their winning ways, now just a one game back on the Steelers for the lead in the APC North.

The Jets got their second winning a row, beating the Cleveland Browns, So Jetsy.

The Patriots beat the Buccaneers in probably the premier game of the weekend.

The Saints won against the Panthers, who now look like pretenders again.

The Texans came back and beat the Jaguars.

Trevor Lawrence, where are you?

The Seahawks crushed the Cardinals.

The Rams crushed the forty nine Ers.

The Lions crushed my commanders.

The Chargers beat out these Steelers, and Aaron Rodgers looked every bit of his forty one years old.

And the Eagles squeaked by the Packers after a terrible sixty four yard field Goalkay was skewed left in overtime, right in regular play rather to get the victory.

Say in Green Bay, So your thoughts anything big sto up to you from this weekend?

What do you think which I'm gonna do like a quick thought on each one, just to kick through it all.

Broncos have no offense.

Their pretenders.

I think they're gonna go down.

The Coults are literally Jonathan Taylor, he deserves to be m VP.

You have two hundred and forty four yards and three in touchdowns.

And I think Daniel Jones, the Daniel Jones experiment will ultimately fail.

Yeah, Dable should have gone.

It is what it is.

He was putting Jackson Dart in multiple concussion protocols.

That's nonsense.

Yeah, that's absolutely crazy.

Not entirely surprised by the Bills.

Josh Allen really doesn't have like he has James Cook.

But you don't have any receiving help whatsoever.

Yeah, and it is a division rival.

You always have to be careful about division rivals, even if they're the worst team in the division.

Ravens are on a tear.

I think they will ultimately bounce back and win their division.

Are we surprised the brown suck?

Just in case Pat's listening, the Patriots actually look like the deadliest team in the a f C.

That's bad news for the Saints because I'm sure they at this point wanted to bottom out so.

They go get another quarterback.

The division game again Texans and Jaguars, so it really could have gone either way.

Seahawks, to me.

Personally, I think they look like the deadliest team in the NFC, but it'll be interesting to see.

You got division game Seahawks at Rams going on Sunday.

I'll come back on Tuesday.

I don't think the Niners have enough sauce to go the distance, but they're still a force until someone knocks me out.

Of the playoffs.

You guys are gonna bad until you get your quarterback back and get rid of all those old people next season.

He shouldn't even come back to play this.

He shouldn't.

He shouldn't.

He should take the rest of the season off, are saying something because I need him in fantasy Chargers are gonna be the Chargers that this just reminds me of the Philip Rivers era over and over again.

You're gonna be good enough to get in the playoff and people go, oh shit, but yeah, somebody better are going to come along, And I go back to I know two flags, two flag Camra is in here, maybe El Boogie is.

I do not fear the Eagles.

I don't.

Why are you?

Like I get the Packers defense is a force, But how do you have Davante A.

J se Kwan?

Oh my god, who's the tight end Dallas Goddard?

How do you have all those weapons and you can only squeak out ten points?

Even like, because it's not like the Packers defense is the defense in the league.

They they do have a very good defense, but that's not the defense.

So like, how did that happen?

You know what I'm saying?

There's like that was part of the concern I put out about the Eagles in the first place.

Is this random idea that like, you're for being the defending champs and favorite.

I need to see you to be able to move the ball and some weeks you can, but then some weeks it's like what's happening?

Yeah, So we will.

Ultimately see if they're able to hold it down and repeat, but I think there are much deadlier opponents out there.

Yeah.

Yeah, next week's gonna be fun.

Though.

I think next week's gonna be a lot of fun when you look at the matchups here because I think Lion's Eagles is gonna be a lot of fun.

Chiefs Broncos is gonna be a lot of fun.

Don't count out the Browns against the Ravens.

They always seem to shock them in random ways.

When you see the Seahawks, Rams is gonna all the after one o'clock games on the West Coast are gonna be a lot of fun to watch.

The Chargers Jaguars.

Who's the real pretender between the two of those.

That's gonna be interesting.

Will the Bears handle the Vikings?

Will the Vikings bite back Bill's and Buccaneers bro in Buffalo?

That is going to be the game of the morning in my opinion to see that, And I think the Page is gonna kill the Jets here on Thursday, so it's I'm not looking forward to that game.

But Yeah, the Patriots are scary.

They're becoming scary.

Now.

I know vrabel is not doesn't have a great track run in the playoffs, but like, these Patriots look like they're ready.

Wouldn't that be amazing if that's the team that knocks out the Chiefs yet again from trying to go to the Super Bowl.

It would be the Patriots in that in that final game.

We'll see, we'll see.

I mean, dude, they're they're they're genuinely scary, yes, and they're getting that they're scary.

And their schedule is like, if I remember, it's pretty cupcake.

Bro.

You got the Jets, the Bengals, the Giants, the Bills, who now all of a sudden, it's like, are are the Bills in trouble?

Yeah?

The Ravens, who are on their climb up but technically are still like a below five hundred team, So we got to see if they get to full form by the time you play them.

Then the Jets again and the.

Dolphins again, Like let's just assume let's play Devil's Advocate you lose to the Bills.

In the Ravens, the two teams that are like the preminent team one two, three, four.

That's five more wins that you could lose to anybody, Division rivals, all that shit, But technically that should be five layup wins on already?

What's their record?

Eight and two, thirteen and four by the end of the season, like they most likely are gonna get the number one seed and get a bye yep.

Oh, Like, why are we already back in the Patriots era?

This is stupid.

Just when it looks like Kansas City is starting a creater, here come the Patriots again.

Yeah, exactly, it's crazy and he's only a second year quarterback.

That should piss everybody off.

He's only a second.

Year quarterbaight, But I will give credit where credit is due Alberdie bringing it up.

As far as like their schedule, we do kind of have to look at who they played and who they've beat so far.

Now, mind you, the Panthers are better than they're putting on, but that was a she lacking the Bills now look kind of sus So it is what it is.

You be the same to beat the Titans, you beat the Browns, you beat the Falcons, you beat the Bucks, which the Bucks at one point looked good, but they riddled with injuries.

So they're not the same team that they were, and Baker's not playing out of his mind anymore.

Your two losses to the Steelers and the Raiders, one team that's not good in one team that's sus so like it's not there.

There is something to be said about the strength of their wins there, right.

But so you know, Drake May, I think the main thing to look at it even if you played these kind of middling teams, Drake May looks like he's been doing this for years.

Yep, Like not just hey, I played in college in high school and all that.

I mean, he looks like he's been an NFL VET that's been to Pro Bowls years.

That's what's scary is that you were still as bad as the Browns are.

They are the best defense in the league.

I believe.

Yeah, and you and you trounce them, ye Like you know what I'm saying, Like that's kind of crazy.

Yeah, Asco says, the Jets are gonna f that boy up.

Yeah, I'll now Jets are gonna be lucky to score ten points.

I'll tell you as forty five to ten is my prediction.

I think the Page is going to crush the jets just crush.

But we'll see.

We'll see, all right, so we get these questions.

Win I we have limited time, so let's go dance.

The dog sixty says as Jack Rby kicked off the quote fourth World Series in the pages Jimmy Olsen, which led to the New Gods.

I'm into this Gods and Monsters with gun Okay, okay, okay.

Respect Also a great show as always, gentlemen.

Thank you, Dancy Dog.

Appreciate that.

Trump Bacon live forever.

Just saying we're not advocating anyone's death on this show.

For God's sakes, I want to make that clear.

Very sensitive time.

So okay, that's fair, and no one lives forever.

So yes, you're correct, but we will see Simon's extually, says mister Roka.

Thank you for your service.

Thank you, Simon.

Have you seen a Dirty dozen film where a black soldier who was a sniper was racially harassed by an Italian who at the end said that he was okay, I hated that film.

I have not seen that film.

I don't know.

That sounds like a story of so many people that I know that are not considered the quote unquote status quote where the norm or whatever it is.

Every black person probably got a story like that if they didn't face it, somebody they know did.

Every woman has had.

Been like a girl and then like at the end being like you all right there shook it like something like you know what I'm saying.

But but that sounds like a rough film.

I'm I'm good on that.

I don't know what that movie is.

But Simon, if you're still here, let us know in the regular chat, I'll highlight it if I've seen it or not.

Cowboy's fan, what's up?

Cowboys said?

To your point, John, I agree one hundred percent.

It's gotten to the level of piss taking when it when it comes to journalism being too clean while asking tough questions, both with politicians and celebrities.

Oh yeah, I agree, although I do want to give credit to Laura Ingram actually pressing Trump on Fox News, which I didn't think I'd ever seen in my lifetime.

I thought that was impressive.

I was actually was impressive that and twice now I've been shocked because if anything, I was like, so you actually know how to be a journalist, because neither one was.

Tucker Carlson, pushing back on Ted Cruz right after the whole bombing, and like Iraq earlier on and and everything else.

I was like, so you remember how to do this?

Why don't you do this more often?

That's the frustrating part.

Like when you're watching MTG now and all these interviews, you're like, so this this has been there all along.

You have been a sane, rational, middle of the road person all along.

You just played the MAGA thing for attention and popularity and establish yourself.

But now you're going toe to total with Trump and you're actually saying logical stuff in your interviews.

I don't trust you, but you're saying logical stuff in your interviews.

You could have been All of this stuff could have been avoided if more of these politicians said we're not going to fucking cater to the Trump and his bullshit.

We're going to stand up to him and push back on that.

That would have been the way to go.

But now we're seeing it and it feels like too little too late, Brom, too little too late.

Yeah, it's Doc six, he says a Sidney Sweety better be careful, she'll end up with Kevin Sorbo's career.

All she had to say was the ad was just a joke.

Anyway, she needs better pr red.

I don't disagree with that, Winston.

I think she needs better people around her all round, picking her projects and handling her pr you know.

Yeah, And I think that that was that felt like a PR answer of when there's something I want to speak on, i'll speak on it.

That that felt very pr rehearsed.

Yes, and I think she was trying to listen very intently as to where that question was going again, delivered kind of awkwardly, which then would ultimately.

To you know what she's doing.

So yeah, Victor Gardy says, Hey, Washington Wizards fan here, it's hard to take Winston's NBA points.

Seriously, you don't know pain, sir.

I just don't know Roku.

I think you might have an idea.

Yeah, well, Victor, real quick, just be for real quick.

I don't know Wizard's history.

Did you ever trade a top three generational player that you would be lucky to ever have on your tea away from the team.

No?

No, So then we're not the same, right.

I think he's saying that you've at least gotten into the finals and had some success with Dirk.

We haven't had that since nineteen seventy eight, when Wes Unseld led us to the title over the SuperSonics.

So we haven't sniffed a fucking a finals even, you know.

And I think we went to the East crowd finals once with Arenas and then the Celtics wiped us out.

So yeah, which is which is?

You know?

I can I can say that, Like I remember, there was a big moment where I was in like doing network meetings to like lead a show.

I've told this story a few times.

No, I don't actually know what was worse having to negotiate a contract to see how my life was about to change, have to meet with these execs and shake all these hands and think, holy shit, this is it for that to not work out or to just never be in that position in the first place, because one of them is like damn, but the other one is like you you you were there, you were literally stepping your foot in the door, and all of a sudden the whole thing is just gone.

Yeah.

So yeah, Paul Hedgecock says, Roca Sweeney is getting it from both sides right now.

And I don't mean anything sexual, but she's in a real Eiffel Tower situation, Jesus having to live that Devil's Triangle life figgers nice, I get it.

It's that's supposed to be you, since you, since you, like when you originally said she's getting for both sides, that's supposed to be you trying.

To say the whole thing out there.

That's good.

That's good.

Well done, Paul, Well done.

Dok developer says, thank you for your service.

Roka, thank you, Doug.

I want to recommend the Netflix show Boots.

Yes, it's about an eight year old kid and basic training.

Thought about you instantly when the title card nineteen ninety flashed on the screen.

That's why when I started serving in nineteen when you started serving, Oh yeah, nineteen ninety to ninety eight, that's when I served.

But yeah, I've heard about Boots.

The kid is I think the kid is gay, and so it's about what it's like to be training in the military at that time and be gay.

So yeah, I'm curious to watch the show.

I have so many things i'm watching right now, I can't put that on the I mean, plorabus right now is consuming me.

So but I have to definitely watch Boots at some point for sure.

Victor Garrity said, I know you guys won't talk a lot of college ball, but how wild was it that Wake Forest be Virginia?

Thus last weekend Yes shout out to Mark Ellis, graduate of Wake Forest.

The Demon Deacons totally derailed Virginia season with that victory.

Fascinating as Virginia was set to be in the ACC Championship game.

They might still make it, but they were set to be there and then possibly get into the College Football Playoff, but now not so much.

Doug Delger also says prediction Eagles or Rams will represent the NFC.

Only NFC quarterbacks I fully trust are Jalen Hurts and Stafford.

Maybe Baker, but his team is too hurt I don't.

But see, that's the thing I will give Jalen credit.

I've always said this for he somehow figures out a way to win.

It does He's a winner.

But it genuinely makes me nervous to just see these subpart of performances that backpedal into victory.

Like that's what I'm saying, What do you do when you then have a Stafford who can actually just ball out?

You know what I'm saying that Like, is that kind of stuff that makes me go what.

But at a certain point I almost think it's not like I still give Jalen credit, but I as much shit as we give Sirianni.

Sirianni must just have some in the water.

Bro.

I don't know, like as a coach, he keeps figuring out ways to make this happen.

Jalen is an unusual guy because he's got an unusual personality.

He never gets too why, he never gets too low, so you don't know quite how to It's something it's very reminiscent of don V McNabb.

You never sensed that McNabb was ever in trouble or was ever succeeding.

It's just so such the same thing.

So it's interesting.

And also el boogie in here'd be like Stafford wing four against in the last four games.

I was like, okay, well do we want to look back at those last two games that literally went on a hail Mary of a field goal block like touchdown return or the fact that the almost got your ass whopped in the snow, which LA has no business and all that, and I don't even remember what the play was, but it was something like minor that like, yeah, changed the course of everything.

They're acting like the Rams didn't take it to the Eagles both times and you lucked out of that.

Yeah, it was a throw to the tight end in the snow.

I think that he dropped.

Yeah, yeah, but I think I think you're discounting the Packers, Doug.

I think the Packers ever real shot to represent the NFC as well, Doug DAEs and prediction Patriots won't make the Super Bowl May is a playoff version.

They rarely make the Super Bowl, Burrow and Cat being exception since two thousand and one.

Sure, but you know, he's a second year player.

And guess what second year player took the Patriots to the Super Bowl?

Uh, and that was Tom Brady.

So it's very gonna be It's gonna be interesting because there's a lot of legacy stuff on the line here.

So they look like the most dangerous team in the AFC.

But if the.

Bills figure it out, if the Ravens figure it out, if the Chiefs stay the course here, yeah, they called you know, they jokingly called the AFC Championship the Arrowhead Invitational for a reason.

And you throw in the fact that, like.

There are so many question marks about Josh and Lamar for being this good and not being able to get it done.

So it's not to say that the Patriots can't go on a tear here, but like once you get in the playoff territory and the edges one, they might be starting to play lights out because they were like, I am not gonna let my legacy be tarnished by some nonsense, you know what I mean.

It's true.

We'll see doctor mel Rowlse says stafford Is at twenty five touchdowns, two interceptions with twenty four hundred passing yards.

Won't be surprised if he's worn MVP as part of the Swan song, like when Newman won the Oscar.

It has to be Jonathan Taylor.

I'm sorry, I don't even think it's close with any like I was saying this last year about Saquon, But here's the difference.

There would be a few games where Jalen would go and make aj Brown look like the superstar that he is and make the Varta the superstar that he is.

Daniel Jones is literally proven that if you take Jonathan Taylor out of the game, he can't get it done.

He is the most valuable player by a mile.

I don't disagree with you.

That team doesn't win with that.

Daniel Jones right with Conton Taylor.

Sorry sorry, yeah, uh, I too like Bill's Packers, Jags Bears, Steelers equals fake Demons.

Certainly Steelers, certainly Bears, Jags.

Yes, Packers, I don't think so.

I think the Packers are for real.

They just had I mean, they took the defending champions all the way to the last field goal.

So, but I've got so many questions about Jordan Love many.

I have more questions about Jordan Love than I do Jalen Hurts well, sure, Jalen and shown he can win the Super Bowl.

I think with Jordan there we got to see.

I don't know, of course, is Jordan's the team that I have issues with, you know?

And so we'll see on the offensive side of things, because I don't think those receivers are that strong and I don't think that run back is that strong, and so that's my concern with the with the Packers.

But I think Jordan's a good quarterback.

Chris a says thoughts on the Dems caving for a handshake deal.

Oh yeah, I already tweeted about it.

It's it's craven as fucking I hate it and fed them and go fuck himself, Like these eight Democrats that have signed this thing for the promise that they're gonna look at it like, it's just so ridiculous.

In what world do you look at that and go, you know what, they're good people.

Yeah, we could just go out of a handshake that they'll come back to this totally.

There are people of their word, because the other side of this, too is this weird deal of like, yes, yes, people are genuinely suffering, but you just made them suffer like that so that they can suffer worse than the worst one.

It's just, yeah, so dumb temporary solution, and especially when you've got them on the ropes after the elections last week, Why the hell would you when you've got him on the ropes.

It's crazy.

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Daniel song, what's with your redskins?

I'm being being asked this year JD five needs some creatine stat Well, the whole team is just I mean, we lost a bunch of players for season ending injuries and McLaurin hasn't been able to play.

So what do you want us to do?

Nothing that we have no players to try to win games.

So it's a shame.

And I also think Dan Quinn there's questions to be asked here at the end of the season.

Karen, what's up?

Karen says, what are your thoughts that the president wants the new command stadium to be named after him?

I say, no freaking way.

You saw you saw.

Somebody put out a TikTok right about this, and they go, oh, what was the TikTok?

Was it?

It?

Specifically said, Well, I don't know if he actually wants that, because there's only been two presidents or like two politicians that have ever had stadiums named.

After them, and that is JFK and RFK.

And what had to happen ye stadium?

Is that?

Is that what you actually want?

Like know, like I don't know, I don't Yeah, I hate it.

I think it's horrific because you should have nothing to do with politics, and this naming him now would be about politics.

That'd be a young boy.

Get out of here.

RFK and JFK were assassinated, right, Trump was not assassinated, And I think it would be stupid to name the stadium after him and more Ego and Hubris uh and and you know it's terrible.

But by the time the stadium is built, he'd be out of office hopefully uh And so would you have to adhere to that naming?

I don't know.

It depends all right, Let's see the stream of super chats here stream labs.

Fran says, Hey, tequila spillers, showing my support.

Quick question, has the NFL entered a new way to develop washed out Acaba with the success of Sam Donald and the emergence of Daniel Jones and the other Jones kid also on Predator bad Lands was awesome?

What's Aqab?

What's Aquaba?

I don't know what that means?

Aqab Aqaba?

I don't know what that means, So say that read the beginning again.

Has the NFL entered a new way to develop washed out Oh maybe he's just saying washed out quarterbacks.

With the success of Sam Donald and the emergence of Daniel Jones and the other Jones kid, Yeah, Mac Jones.

So has the NFL ended a new way?

No?

I just think these players have gone to teams that can coach them up better than the teams they were at.

Dave Ball is not that good of a coach, and that's why I was fired.

He was running Jackson Dard in the ground, basically doing the top Thibodeau of the NFL, and Dane Jones was suffering from that situation.

Now he's in a better situation with a better coordinator, better coach, and he's doing better.

Same thing with Mac Jones over there in San Francisco.

And I think Sam Donald does.

Sam Donald balled out Minnesota, so he's bawling out now in Seattle.

And because the Jets are a fucking dumpster fire, you don't want to learn how to be a quarterback out of that organization.

That's what I think.

When Yeah, I think it's more just you're seeing there's a reason these guys were drafted, why they were drafted so high.

It's just there are a lot of teams actually have a good way of ruining confidence and building in bad habits.

Like Sam had to get as far away from you know, the Jets as possible, had to go kind of through the Carolina and all that kind of stuff.

Yeah.

Yeah, you essentially need somebody that is bulletproof two.

Bad environments, and that's when you end up with the Cam Newton went still goes down to Carolina.

But because Cam is such a beast, he can kind of power through how bad of a like organization they were, you know.

What I'm saying.

Yet to see a quarterback of that caliber end up in Cleveland.

So anybody with even some like Monokram of talent is ending of being trash or leaving and then going to be good.

Yeah, agreed, Fred said.

Fred Tasko says, Heavy Veterans Day, Roka, thank you for your service.

Thank you, Fred.

Appreciate your brother.

Appreciate you every week, brother man, even when we don't agree.

Samuel says his thoughts on UFC President Dana White, saying that he's not political and that protesting is the dumbest waste of time yet the UFC is hosting an event in the White House.

Yeah.

Uh, Dana's an asshole.

He has always been an asshole.

He likes to poke and prod people just and likes to smack around his wife, So you know, fuck him, and he's lying through his teeth and he's just doing this to get a reaction out of people, because people like him get a a spider monkey jacket himself off.

Kind of a joy out of doing that kind of shit.

So that's my response.

I don't really speak on it because I don't know enough about Dana White or even what he said.

I just saw people were where it was trending.

I just want to say to Haskell, I didn't say Jet's fan, but yes, the Jets ruined them, because you just said we had shitty coaches, no weapons to help him in no O line.

You know who did all that.

Your organization, So not you, as in a Jets fan who is a die hard.

You had nothing to do with that, but your organization, whether it be the coaches coaching him badly, the GM's not getting him protection, the GM's not getting him weapons almost.

Thre then, come on, I'm two play m Last One.

Saince Winston was saying Dak was playing at an MVP level.

Laughable.

He then gets c D back and stings up the joint.

Dak is a jag, just another guy.

Meanwhile, Seahawks, looking to lock up the NFC West shout out to Pistons being number one seed in the East too.

No, I said the same thing that I said previously, in the same way we were talking about Baker Mayfield and all that.

At a certain point, unless you have truly unlocked like one punch Man Goku level god status as I play this all the time.

Yeah, the Buccaneers have injuries galore that eventually caught up with them.

The Cowboys have no defense.

So at a certain point, if a game is gonna come along that Dak could not put up thirty points and then what happens and so like that's I don't know.

I don't think I think that the MVP talk is over for both of them unless they go on a tear to finish the season.

But they were playing at MVP levels.

You just had things holding you back.

Daniel Jones was playing at an MVP level.

Until people realize, no, it's Jonathan Taylor like you know what I'm saying, Like it's.

It is what it is.

It's true, it is what it is.

All right, Well, there you go.

That's all the questions.

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