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What is happening with this post here on Instagram from Ryan Reynolds is the mark with the mouth finally joining the Avengers?

You know?

Ryn Renolds shared this on his Instagram.

He didn't include any kind of caption because that's the kind of guy he is to get people's tongues wagging.

And certainly we're covering it here on the show.

But the photo you can see that it is almost the symbol there of anarchy over the Avengers.

And so what does that mean?

And Reynolds has been posting the posting an Avenger dot comment is filming is undergoing underway right now for Avengers doomsday speculation, then he could be preparing to announce his involvement in the movie is running rampant now and a lot of people.

Are excited about this.

But he did say that he'd never wanted Deadpool to necessarily join the Avengers or join the big teams that are there in Marvel, because why give him what he wants his wish fulfillment?

He doesn't he shouldn't have that.

So what do you think about this?

Is this hime teasing that he's going to be a part of the Avengers Doomsday movie or Avengers Secret Wars or is this just a little fun that he's having with everybody.

I honestly could go anyway.

I think it's smart for, you know, Marvel, to let this happen, just in the sense that even though Fantastic four has done well, it hasn't done the Gangbusters they were maybe hoping for.

Yes, I think this just gives you just more positive pr to do that, and I especially from a character that everybody genuinely loves.

I think on top of that, we needed to kind of wait for the lively Baldoni stuff to die off.

Yeah, before you try and get Ryan involved, just especially from the standpoint of like his movie was caught up in the lawsuit about the idea that Nice Pool is supposed to be a spoof on Baldoni, which if that's the case, I'm gonna be honest with you that's genuinely hilarious.

I don't.

I don't.

I don't look at that and go, Wow, that's so mean.

I go, you got roasted, bro you got roasted work because like nothing that was said in there was I would have had zero idea until it was brought up in the lawsuit, right case for most people.

So that's almost one of those things where you like rat it on yourself, you know what I'm saying.

So, like all that being said, I think I genuinely think that this was just a if if it is true, I think it's just good timing to get people re amped up about what's going on, because because you had that in Spider Man, like you've had the little feature at already for day one and yeah, that looked really good too.

So you're just you're just putting out good press for your stuff.

I think that's what this is all about.

And you touched on it and you're in the first part of your comments.

Marvel is taking it on the chin on Fantastic four.

I don't care how they spin it.

I don't care that well, we're gonna sell toys and we're gonna sell this to that, and that's gonna offset the box office.

That's totally fine, and sure the financial picture of Marvel is you have to you know, vector in everything if to get the result of what a film like that's release brought into your coffers.

But I get that, but looking at it as the film and it's box office, it is a disappointment, and Marvel, I think, is a little bit scared about how people are receiving their movies.

Three movies in a row now that have either underperformed or flopped, and you get a conversation now like, well, even when we do a good movie like Fantastic Four, people still come out, don't don't come out?

What do we do here?

So I think there is an effort there behind the scenes going to all their people, going like, can we get some positive energy back around the Marvel brand because we all benefit from positive energy around the Marvel brand.

So yes, as you said, the Spider Man brand new Day feature, Rett, all kinds of news dropping.

Sadie sinks first Day is apparently on set today or tomorrow.

So you got those that news dropping.

You've got the practical effects being used here with the swinging and the web crawling, all.

Of that to get people excited for Spider Man brand New Day.

And oh, by the way, here's Ryan Reynolds dropping a little cryptic post there to get tongues wagging and get people excited.

Because the last film that did well in.

The Marvel universe was Deadpool Wolverine to the tune of over a billion.

Dollars, so why not add his cachet.

And this also shows I think the kind of power Ryan Reynolds has in Marvel right now that he is just they used his personal account to put that logo on there.

He is Deadpool is owned by Marvel, by the MCU.

Now with the sale, they don't have to go through Ryan reynolds social media, but the fact that they did go through Ryan reynolds social media the kind of power that Ryan Reynolds is wielding around Marvel still because of the success of Deadpool and Wolverine, and so they want that that success to kind of rub off on the future Marvel films that are coming.

And Ryana said he only wants to if he comes back, it's going to be in someone else's movie.

If you want actors on actors with Andrew Garfin, So yeah.

I mean I will, I will push back a baby bit on the idea that Fantastic four spells trouble.

I think what really needs to happen is people need to take a step back and really reevaluate what box offices are.

Now there's there's like if you look at the ones that crossed a billion, they were full blown event situations.

They were typically tied to well known or already successful IP and on top of that, they all were legacy stuff with rare exception.

So Oppenheimer I counted as a billion.

It was close enough.

That's its own thing.

But that's Christopher Nolan's kind of crazy.

It was supposed to be like his magnum opus.

So yeah, checks out Barbie massive IP obviously on its own, we've never seen a Barbie movie.

The marketing on that was a one better than I've seen in a lot of other places.

And how that went and you were able to pull that off before the strike, but you really tapped into an audience that wasn't like.

The funny thing is is seeing the market share for both sports in for media, yeah, and how a lot of times they are not catered to the way that they should be.

And the minute you did, you busted out a billion dollar movie.

Most of the other ones that hit a billion kids movies.

So you're talking Leeloch, You're talking two Super Mario brothers.

You're gonna almost always win with kids movies.

Hell, like even How to Turn Your Dragon, which is almost a shot for shot remake of the animated one ye gang Busters, just by the nature of being a kids movie like that, like a family movie.

So I think we really need to take a hard look at it and stop immediately jumping to this as a failure.

Now, mind you, if they're putting out half a billion dollar budgets and pulling half a billion, then you really need to take a look because that means you did lose money.

But in this case, if I remember correctly, the budget here was like was about two and you're sitting at about half a billion, and we know that a large amount of the marketing was actually be able to be written off because they did a lot of collabse and a lot of product placement stuff and whatnot.

It's not going to immediately fix everything, but I think you just the fact that people still showed up and it's about to cross the half billion dollar marker.

I don't think that that or Superman is nearly as bad as people like to make it out to be.

Just because we do not live in the print billion dollar checks anymore, that does it.

That's not a thing that exists aoring a few exceptions, because I would even say, I look at the other exceptions are Avatar, but that is one of the most rabid fan bases I've ever seen.

So that's a different thing.

You can't count Spider Man because we really hadn't been for the most part back in theaters.

That was a twenty plus your culmination of everything of Toby, Andrew and Tom and all their villains and and all of that, so that was in its own kind of stratosphere.

And then Top Gun once again.

You you went and reached back to a thirty year sequel and it was a good movie, so you needed to do that as well.

But you really tapped into something special of every son wanted to go see that with their dad or vice versa.

Like everybody saw it, but like you specifically hit that nail on the head as far as that goes.

So yeah, I'm not surprised.

I like ravenew World makes sense because I don't think it was very good.

Thunderbolts and fantastic for first steps.

I'm a little surprised because they're good, but not so much as long as the lesson is learned.

We don't live in the same world.

Marvel's in trouble if we get to these Avengers movies and they're not pushing a billion, that's a problem, especially know what the price heg is to make.

These movies right box office wise?

Yeah, but I mean, but I think that's why.

I think you can look at the pattern that's emerging here and start to be worried about the Avengers films and start to be worried about Spider Man brand New Day, And I think that's why Marvel is doing these kinds of things to get people excited again about their successful characters.

Spider Man, Avengers, Deadpool.

These are the things that they're doing.

It feels like a concerted effort to get people excited again about the Marvel.

Brand because you might look.

I take your point, certainly, the idea of box office and what is an actual success.

I saw an article today is eight hundred million the new billion.

Is that how we should be quantifying things now going forward post COVID certainly fair commentaries to make in the analysis of it all, and we never really get the full numbers from the studios, the actual numbers whenever, unless you're shooting your film in London or England rather where you're supposed to tell them what the actual stuff they think so they can check it.

It doesn't happen in America.

So you get what you think the numbers are, and you look at the marketing and all that kind of stuff.

But so you look at it, but I it is.

It is fine, but it is not what I think they wanted it to do.

And I think where the issues of a little bit of concern come in when you're looking at the future of Marvel right now.

Real good to that point.

I mean, look, I every day would would hope that I wake up and I run into Florence Pugh and she's like, Yo, you cute you and your girl come with me.

Like, but if that doesn't happen, and I just have a good day, you know what I'm saying.

I make some money, I have a good meal, like you know, me and my girl like watch something funny.

I still consider that a success.

I think the main reason I keep saying that you really have to look at what actually hit a billion and what didn't in the last couple of years.

There are key elements to it that that that you.

Can't go into a billion.

I'm not going to a billion.

I think seven hundred to eight hundred was what they wanted Fantastic four to do.

I pruly believe that, and I think I don't the billion.

I didn't never.

I never thought they were going to get a billion, But certainly seven eight hundred is what I think they wanted.

And and and that's fair.

I would also throw out there that this is a problem by Studio Zone doing because they again have retrained audiences.

You've given them like kind of a Pavlovian response to I just have to wait forty five days and it'll be on streaming.

That that was a choice that studios made.

And so why are you surprised that your box offices went down across the board.

Yeah, Like there is no run, especially if you like, like for example, like I heard Megan two was trash, but I bet it would have had a slightly longer life if it wasn't immediately rushed out.

People would just be like, I'm bored, I'll go see it whatever.

But if a movie is bad or mid or whatever, and you're telling me it'll show up on Peacock or a Paramount Plus or HBO Max within forty five d Why why am I rushing to the theater?

That's that's that that adds up.

If you're not an a list person or you don't have an AMC to do something like that with, then you pick and choose your battles and so that's it doesn't make logical sense for them to do that, But then they also have to deal with the consequences of their actions.

But you want, you want people to be excited for your film so that they don't wait for it for forty five days like you saw with Drassic World Rebirth.

You know, whatever your feelings are about the quality of that film, and I don't think it's great quality, but like for whatever reason, people gravitated to it and saw it to the tune that's over eight hundred million dollars now that film and so and I hear you about the installments, I hear you about the kids stuff, but I also think that there is there is an appeal factor here that that you have to factor into the whole situation.

Is that's what gets people off their asses to go to the movie is like the feeling like, well, everyone else is seeing it, I gotta see it so I can be part of the conversation.

But that wouldn't happen with Fantastic Four.

No, I understand it.

They wanted it to.

I understand.

It doesn't help that.

I don't think anybody thought that weapons would do that strongly out the gate.

I think that that that cutting into your weekend three like that is not fantastic no pun intended.

But I think we also need to take into consideration specifically, why say, for example, that it's an impossible Jurassic World actually did well.

Jurassic World Rebirth.

I will give it.

I will give it props for being the fourth highest domestic gross but it was beat out by Superman to first of all, so like anybody that wants to poo poo on Superman, like, there's that, then Lelo and Stitch and Minecraft Movie, and immediately below it centers domestically, domestically I'm talking specifically domestically, then Sinners immediately under, and then How to Train Your Dragon and then Fantastic Four.

So like the main thing, the reason why Jurassic World Rebrother is at eight hundred is because they did almost half a half a billion dollars internationally.

So that's that that that that is, which I under I understand, I totally understand.

But we also know that a China's pretty pissed off with us in the first place, so they've decided they're going to stop prioritizing American movies and that's why Ningza has blown everything out of the water as far as actual box office goes with NINGSA two.

But that is similar to the fast movies.

There is something very specific about Jurassic World that around the world people forge on go dinosils.

Even if it is dog shit, which it is, it's not good, like you know what I mean.

Like that's so that's that's the only thing is it's it's It is equally as important to look at what the domestic pull is and what you're doing for American audiences and then make an adjustment to see how you're faring internationally at this point because that has shifted, that genuinely is not what it used to be.

And that's kind of important to keep in mind as far as what we're going to do going forward.

You know, yeah, and I hear you, I just don't I don't see it.

People make the delineation being domestic and international, and I don't see that delineation.

It's a global box office.

And so if you if you want to split hairs and go, well, we did great domestically and we did not do great internationally.

That is an issue.

What is it about internationally that's not appealing about your movie that you're not getting across to the way that The Drastic World did or whatever.

I'm like, because sure, because this Fantastic Four is yes, it's they're American superheroes, but they're really the whole film is about them taking care of the entire planet, irrelevant of countries they're they're based out of what their version of America is you imagine in at Earth eight to eight, but it ain't necessarily an American connected hero like Superman.

I can.

I don't believe it, but I hear the argument about Superman and the international stuff and how this current administration and whether people want I still think people love America and they love things about America, and they don't see they don't go, oh, Superman is Trump.

I don't think they make that correlation to the numbers that people think they make that correlation to, but there's no way to quantify that one way or the other.

But I hear the logic, I don't necessarily agree with it.

I mean, the only reason I would push back just a little bit though, is just from the standpoint of universally here in the States, it has been deemed that Centers is a classic, that it that it did Gangbusters, it did eighty seven million overseas, right, And that has to do with a number of things that we've seen in the past of the fact that black folk, especially in places like China because of racism, don't even like they they're not interested, They're just they're said, like the fact that you did Star Wars and you took Finn off the poster because you were like, well, we know they're not gonna rock with black folks, so we're just gonna take them off here.

So I'm saying there there is something to be said totally that I think specifically, we just need to be able to understand that the market has changed domestically, it's changed internationally, and that means your worldwide box office is not going to be what it was in the past.

This is the longer.

It's funny, it seems weird that bringing politics and have anything to do with it.

It's not even necessarily Oh I see Trump in Superman, but the idea of China's pissed off and like you stop putting terrorists on his asshole and they're like, fine, we're just not gonna see your movie.

We love things out, we'll see it again.

Like there's no reason not to just do something like that.

So right, that's that's all well.

And there's also with Sinners, you know, that gets into the complexity of do Africans care about Black Americans experience in America?

Do Haitians care?

Like it becomes that kind of do British black people care about American black culture?

Like there's that cool of thing.

So it becomes even more when you look at it becomes even more delineated when you look at it in context.

But I hear you on the Center's argument for sure, because I think that film is extraordinary.

Regardless of whether it did well internationally or and did better domestically, it's irrelevant to me.

The film itself, quality wise, is a great film.

So like, literally the two best performing countries outside of the US was the UK at three million three point two million, and France.

Oh sorry, that's the opening.

The gross, the gross in the UK twenty one million, yeah, France, eight million, three point two in Germany, one point four in Italy, two point nine in Netherlands, one point nine in Saudi Arabia, two point seven in Spain.

But like, it just didn't do well in a lot of other places, like it's kind of tanked in Hong Kong, India, South Korea, Vietnam.

But again that you then have to take a look and see, yeah, how people are perceiving the content.

The stars like they turn.

That around and go like, look at how many Asian movies they get released here don't do well?

Is there racism towards Asian movies by American audiences?

You can also make that claim.

Yes, there's the occasional one that comes over and blows up, but there are a lot of Asian films that get released in theaters that nobody goes to see and don't make money.

And you go, well, is there a racism factor there as well?

So you wonder about that?

Is it about racism?

Is it about taste?

Is about an appeal?

So there's so much little I would argue.

A little of everything because part of the answer I would say there is I don't see a lot of marketing for these Chinese movies everyere, like with with rare exception like Parasite blew up because of the like it was a darling and then everybody went to see it was like, oh my god, this is incredible, and then it won Oscars.

If they're not being marketed, that's that's one thing.

And we know for a fact that they're not properly marketing a lot of black movies in China because of how people feel about it.

So that's the only thing that I would say is like there's at least some evidence that they're not even necessarily trying over there because they know people are not gonna respond to it.

I think here it would just because like I think back in the day, the number of like Jackie Chan Jetly movies that would come here and do fantastically well.

It doesn't need to all be martial art shit, That's not what I'm implying, But I am saying there was a push of certain things or certain stars out here that would help kind of elevate that.

Yeah, And so then part of it is like if you're not marketing it, then how are you gonna do?

Yeah, we'll see, Yeah, we'll see.

So but we started out talking about Darren oh O'didpool rather than Ryan Reynolds, and we'll I think he will show up.

I mean, I can't imagine he wouldn't show up, but you're probably right.

And to kind of like quiet to Justin Baldoni stuff a little bit that because that case goes up in March, Like, we're actually around the corner from that case happening just six seven months away, So are they going to settle that thing before it goes out there?

And maybe this is part of the move that there's talks going on about settling this thing and then Ryan can start doing his promotion or whatever, because yeah, I'm sure he wants to bring Deadpool back, maybe not in a full movie, but certainly as a as a recurring character.

And I do think they need that sarcastic energy because no one else has it.

And if Tony Stark is going to be Doom, He's not gonna be the snarky kind of comedic element that you need.

Right bringing in someone like Ryan Reynolds Deadpool can fill that void a little bit, not quite the same, but can fill it a little bit.

I'll tell you this right now.

If he does, I'm gonna be furious.

It better not be.

It better not if specifically, if Robert Downey Junior comes in, I should have clarified because he is very general.

If he comes in and starts cracking jokes as Dune, I'm generally gonna be pissed, like there should.

The only time that should happen is if he's trying to pass off for Tony Stark temporarily.

Oh yeah, right, fine, but that better not be the core at the character, because that's just not who Doom is.

I know.

It's just genuinely not like if anything, Doom at times is funny because he really is the straight man.

He's so mad about everything and that I'm the one that can fix shit.

He can't be cracking jokes.

He needs to be funny because yeah, he said something stupid like and like or something very egotistical and and something like that.

Not not because he's trying to be snarky.

That's that would be crappy for sure.

For sure, I agree with that one.

You don't want a snarky Doom.

All right, Well, let's move on to another story.

What else do we what else that I have on the list here?

Winston?

What are you feeling right now?

What do you want to talk about next?

Man?

Yeah, we did have a lot to get on.

I mean we can talk about I'll talk about the football stuff because there's a lot of football stuff.

Okay, all right, well let me hit one more entertainment thing and then we'll swing in the football stuff.

How about this?

Uh?

Did you guys hear this about Will Smith and about Alan Tunneck who sadly his Resident Alien series was canceled recently, which I was sad about because I liked that show.

But he was talking about I Robot.

If you guys remember I Robot from a few years ago.

He said he was on Tuned In with Jim Cummings, who was the voice of Winnie the Pooh.

Tutics said that they were doing test audiences with the movie and they score the characters.

And I got word back that Alan, you're testing higher than Will Smith.

And he said this a couple weeks ago, and then I was gone.

I was gone.

There was no publicity and my name was not mentioned.

I was so shocked.

I was like, but wait, nobody's going to know that I play the Robot and he does play Sonny in the film, and apparently this was the way this went down.

So what do you think about this?

Is this a Will Smith throwing his weight around type of thing, or is this the studio going Listen, we don't need Will Smith to be eclipsed here.

Alan Tonik is not selling this movie.

It should be Will Smith selling this movie.

What do you think about this?

I think the thing that makes me sad is the longer we go along.

And I've been in this industry.

I've just heard a lot of different things about Will It really can be yeah, jackal or Hyde one way or the other where he can be the kindest, nicest person possible, but then he can also be greade a movie star ass Like I've literally heard both.

And if you go and look at a lot of the movie choices he made, he was mister box office.

I'll give him credit the number of movies he passed up because he was like, oh, that's not the main character.

I'm good on that.

Yeah, like it was supposed to be in the Matrix.

Nah, bro, I'm good on that.

I don't know, I don't do all that was and what ended up doing Wildball Weston said, I believe yeah, you know, was supposed to be in God what was the other one?

A django?

But he felt the Django wasn't about Django.

It was about uh save False's character, No Chris character, uh doctor and the Matrix right, same thing.

He thought it was about Morpheus, not Neo.

He thought that was about doctor Schultz.

He passed on both of those.

And look at those mega hits that those were, Yeah, and and the you know, the award acclaim and stuff like that.

There have been a lot of stuff that has come out over the years that like he can kind of be that dude.

So in the same way the Rock can't lose a fight and Vin Diesel can't lose the fight, have the same it's kind of the same thing.

So I'm not surprised.

But this especially because even though Alan Tudick is a fantastic character actors, one of my favorite actors ever, is you're dealing with an A list A list name.

Yeah, and if he decides he doesn't want you on the thing, and then you don't get on the things, that's it.

That's it.

If you're in the in the way, you got to get moved out of the way.

One hundred percent.

Yeah, I thought I thought it was a good commentary.

But it's an eye opening commentary because you know, sometimes we think movie stars are just movie stars, and it's like they're they've got they're just the sweet people and they really care about And the.

Thing is, it's a ruthless business.

It's a cutthrow business, and people do what they need to do in order to be the focus of campaigns because they want to establish themselves.

And you can say, on the other side, no black actor had done what Will Smith had done before he started doing that in the nineties, becoming this massive box office draw for action adventure type of movies and becoming a July fourth staple.

Until that was on, we'd seen Eddie do it, we'd seen Sydney Potier do it to.

A degree, but not to the level that Will was doing it.

It was like worldwide.

Box office type of thing where he created a name for himself in that way, and so I think there was a kind.

Of selfishness in that approach.

And I Robot was at the time when Will was starting to like slide out of his prime, so maybe there was a little bit of ego there as well that he needed to make sure he was still the focus to see if you get another hit.

So no, I mean yeah, because yeah it was.

That was about four.

So you had already done Men Well, let's see Bad Boys in ninety five, Independencely ninety six, Men in Black ninety seven, Enemy of the State ninety eight, Wa Well West ninety nine, Legend of Agadvance two thousand, got your Oscar nomination in Ali two thousand and one, did Men in Black two, which was fine, didn't do super great, but then Bad Boys two did great.

You were had a cameo in Jersey Girl, you know, four, but your main thing were Shark Tail and I Robot.

You were just I would say you didn't even fully hit a downswing yet because five was Hitch, which blew up.

Yeah, you had Pursuit of Happiness in six, another Oscar nomination.

You had I Am Legend in ro seven, and then even Hancock did well in eight and you had seven Pounds as well.

I feel like the beginning of the downfall was like the Karate Kid and Men in Black three, especially you hit After Earth that was a rap oh after Earth, it.

Was just yeah, yeah, I think it started to become much more mixed results with with the huah woh est and then you saw, like you said, occasional spikes, but then it really was after Earth with where he just kind of went into the other area until he came back with King Richard.

And then of course we saw what happened to the Oscar ceremony, which he was on all the smoke, explaining that again, got emotional again about it, which I gotta be honest with you.

I don't know how much of that should I buy anymore from Will And I don't how much of that is real and how much of it is And you know, I get it having to explain to a nephew why you slapped a man on the great on arguably the greatest nine of your life.

But how much that is true?

How much of that is.

Using for sympathy?

I don't know, man, but you know it is.

I understood it.

I defended it on that night.

Someone talking shit about your woman.

I get it.

But then again, you know, to keep talking about it, keep getting emotional about it.

It's like we can't seem to move on from me.

No.

I can see it going both ways.

I could easily see this as something he's using to kind of gain sympathy, but I can also honestly see it as a that's probably one of his most embarrassing moments in his entire life.

We're just calling a space of spaine.

That's supposed to be the greatest moment of your life that night, yep, And instead it will become the thing you may potentially, when it's all said and done, just because people are petty, that may be the thing that you get remembered for, which would be insane considering all of the content and laughs and tears and all that that will has given us over the years.

That would I would get emotional constantly too.

If my biggest f up was at the biggest moment of my.

Life, I know, and you can never change it, you can never take it back.

It is forever lore and that's what you're known for.

And yeah, because it's just a moment of a reaction that you think you are in the right to do in defense of your wife, But it becomes something completely different as it morphs years later.

So yeah, all right, let's move on from Well, let's get in, as Winston was teasing it, let's get into some NFL talk.

But let's keep it a little bit entertainment too.

Denzel Washington of all people, was on first take with Spike and they were talking about Highest to Lowest coming out this weekend, even though there's been no press for it, hardly anything out there for it, Winston, but it comes out this weekend, and he was talking about the situation with the Cowboys because Denzel is a big Cowboys fan, and he kind of raked him over the coals, Jerry Jones over the coals on it.

And they even use a tagline from the.

Film that I'm not all money is good money to kind of go after Jerry Jones on this because of the Micah Parsons thing.

So your thoughts on this and and your feelings on this as a Cowboys fan, yourself, my friend, and a Denzel fan.

Imagine I'm massive Denzel fan, and I you know, a lot of that just kind of checks out, like that's uh, that's that, Denzil went.

That is literally what Cowboy fans have been screaming at the top of our lungs is just pay the man.

What are you doing?

And Stephen ain't brought up in that segment.

I watched the whole thing.

He was just like one of the things that's kind of ridiculous.

They have had to restructure decks contract like six or seven times right over the course of the last like five ish years, which means Jerry is actually really bad at contracts, not only because he's having to pay more because he is out here in the streets waiting till the eleventh hour.

So the price yesterday's price in today's price, and that shit keeps going up the minute minute.

Justin Jefferson got paid.

Now it's gonna cost more to cut pay CD the minute you know Burrow got paid.

Now it's gonna cost more to pay Doack Like, that's just how that works.

So the fact that that's the case and you're gonna have to pay Mike of this money and then you're gonna be in cap hell trying to pay the rest of the team, that is nobody's fault but Jerry.

And it doesn't help.

Did you You didn't pull the clip I sent you of Jerry making comment, did he?

I don't.

I don't have the Yeah, I have the clip, but I don't know if I can play it because it's on first take.

I don't know.

If that's fine.

I'll just I'll just I'll just you know, summarize more or less.

Jerry said in an interview, he was just like, you know, we'll uh see, if we're not in the news, if we're not at the forefront, then I'm really good and making sure that we're at the front of everybody's mind.

I love the drama.

Yeah, ye, sell your house.

No, no, you're good the clip, but go ahead.

You just sent you was like, you know, I appreciate the drum and I know how to stir it up, so I do.

And that's the problem.

Instead of focusing on making winning a priority, you are literally about the soap opera that is the Dallas Cowboys.

That is why we are here.

It is not because you haven't had insane because like if you actually go and look at some of the teams that have been put together, one team a couple of years ago that had like nine all pros, there is no reason that team should have been able to schalac people.

That is one of the highest number of all pros in a single team we have ever seen.

And it's because Jerry makes a circus.

They can't actually focus on their job.

Yeah, this is this is what he said.

He said, if we're not being looked at.

Then I'll do my part to get a slop down.

The Cowboys are a soap opera three and sixty five, so it is, it's oh, it's wonderful to have the great athletes, have the great players.

But there's something more there.

There's sizzled, there's emotion, and if you will, there's controversy.

That controversy is good stuff in terms of keeping and having people's attention.

That is insane to me with that's insane.

That's literally insane because to that point, Patriots, I want to say, are like the fourth or fifth most valuable sports franchise, like in the world, right, Cowboys are number one by a large margin.

And then somewhere in that mix is like, man, you the Commanders, the Patriots, the Yankees in some order.

I don't know, but the Cowboys are always a couple billion ahead of everybody else.

I'll tell you right now.

Kind of like what Chappelle said in his last and one of his stand ups where he was like, yo, man, like fifty million and a hundred million, don't feel that different.

Promise you a ten billion dollar valuation and at seven point five billion valuation, do not feel that different?

And the Patriots did it by actually standing for something and being a good team.

Yes, cheat sometimes, but they but a good team versus the Cowboys.

Like you said, soap operas everything, I'm gonna make sure if I got to stir the pot, I'm stir the pot.

It's crazy.

You're not a chef, motherfucker.

You're a goddamn football team.

Do your job well.

I think this is something that is a commentary going on right now in our world across so many different forums or walks of life or venues.

Man the idea that these billionaires, these rich dudes at the top of the pyramid look at people's lives as toys for them to play with, and the fact that he is willing to cause controversy and drama and not care how it affects his team because he is focused on making money with his team and being the talk of the town three hundred and sixty five days of the year.

He wants people talking about the Cowboys, and he is willing to cause drama in other people's lives.

The employees and essentially a team, the players are his employees.

Because he owns the team, he is willing to fuck with their lives and their financial wellbeings and their futures in order to generate buzz to stay popular.

We're seeing this in a number of venues with billionaires who are wanting to fuck with people's lives in order to keep their names on the tongue, the tip of the tongue of a lot of people in news organizations and coverage.

And I think this is a real indictment of where we're at as a as a world, because it's happening in all kinds of countries where these rich men are purposely fucking with people's lives so that you're constantly talking about them because that drives up the value of what they own.

Because people love to watch a train crash or a car crack, a car wreck, and so they'll go and watch all this stuff.

And there are some people who support these billionaires because they like playing the villain, and so you have all of that coursing throughout this these this dialogue around the Michael Parsons thing that is just to me disgusting when you look at it.

Just the way he's so casual about it all, as.

If these people aren't even human beings to him, I think is a damn shit.

I mean, you had, you had the leaked audio of Jamie Fox hanging with him and he's out here talking about he's got a not specimen on him.

Yeah, that nonsense.

You have the fact that like he wanted to invoke Des Bryant's name and Des was like, I got like, that's where the stupid Nicki minaj beef started.

And that was all on Nicki.

But the idea of yo, he was playing with my name because he knew if he could rub my name in the mud, he could pay me less.

He specifically did that to like mess with me instead of letting the truth get out there.

I wasn't there.

I can't speak to it, but to be honest with you, seeing enough evidence of what Jerry does side of Dez, I very much believe him, Like I very much am Like that sounds about right.

He screwed over with Emmett, He's screwed around with IRV.

He has literally done this four decades and it's only gotten worse.

Yeah, it has only gotten worse over the years.

So I just it is incredibly frustrating to see something that you truly enjoy be controlled by somebody that really needs to go sit down and be quiet, Like like, truthfully, there's like what Jerry doesn't understand is that nobody is coming to these games for Jerry.

They are coming of these games for the team, for the players, And I think that just rubs him the wrong way.

And if you look at the evidence that that's something he wants.

How many people are always throwing questions in Jerry's face because of this?

How many times getting on radio shows and dropping all sorts of just offensive crap on like radio DJs just because they're asking questions of quote unquote the GM like the fact that he wants to go act and like you know, was on not Entourage but Ballers and like you know, yeah, you know that Tyler Cabolays rolled up like he really wants to be that guy.

And the problem with somebody that is that insecure and constantly wants to be that guy, you sacrifice the things that are more important in doing that.

Yeah, someone said in the chat, the billionaires want to be the stars now like in the past they were okay, sitting back owning the team and you know, reaping the success of the team.

Now they want to be the guys up front who are getting interviewed and getting the attention.

They like it in some nerdy way.

You know, I just saw a Naked Gun to day.

I went to see it for the first time today, good film enjoyed it.

Not a great film, but a fun film.

But there is a little bit of a commentary there about these people in charge of the world and and when they get on the motorcycles and look like morons because they think they're cool because they have money, they look like total dorks.

And so that's true.

You know, Jones is a dork, Dan Steins is a dork.

Trump is a dork.

But it's not just them bezos bezos, every single one of these dudes that hit a billion literally some of the biggest dorks you've ever seen.

Like because there's there's a really great video done by I've talked about this on my channel before, by Adam Conover.

He's a guy that was like in Adam Ruins everything.

He used to be part of Consumer He has his own channel.

He does something like our society is caving because of billionaires fragile male egos, and it talks about how Zuckerberg feeling, you know, emasculated one or the other started doing MMA and then like started making threats to elon, Hey, you want to get in the ring, man, like we'll throw down and oct goombe bro and then like paid all this money to be with I don't remember what fighter to be a part of the crew to walk out with him.

Everybody else is kind of walking around normally how they do.

He's trying to look all tough and shit, and people are like, ohh you look corny as shit, like stop it, stop it, like that's what you see it is.

It is mind blow I mean like I almost want to go back to the days when the dorks got bullied by the jocks, because at least the jocks weren't that smart.

The fact that you've got the dorks who have now become the people who are the arbitters of our society, are in control and find out that their proclivities are just as depraved as the jocks proclivities in stereotypical ways.

It's just like, well, shit, it sucks that you're depraved, you're.

A dork, and you're in control.

That there's almost no avenue to overthrow that kind of stuff, and you see it happening daily with some of the moves these people make the.

Cost thousands to.

Hundreds of thousands of people's lives to be disrupted by their every whim and it is a frustrating situation to see all around with all.

This, bro.

I love how how the opening euphoria doesn't just apply to Drake.

It applies to all these billionaires, to superpowers getting neutralized.

I can watch only in silence that famous actor or a billionaire once once new is looking paranoid and now spiraling.

You're moving like a degenerate every antiicus feeling distasteful.

I calculate you're not as calculated.

I can predict on every angle.

Literally, we know exactly what Jerry is doing, and we have said this, and now he finally said the quiet part out loud, and it only becomes more infuriating.

This is because the same thing could be said about Elon putting out all those polls of like, hey, if enough people voted, should I step down?

A CEO resounding like ninety percent pole, Yes, Well we're not gonna do that.

I'm gonna be here, so kiss my ass.

Because they're they're they they're they're little boys, yea, who he paid attention to when they were growing up.

There's a hole in their heart that they were able to feel by being very good at screwing people out out of their money, and then ultimately, when their ego gets checked again, they lash out, yes, and they lash out at people that don't deserve it, because it's literally you're doing that.

We're here.

It's nerd rage.

It's all nerd rage from these dorks.

Really, look all of them, you know, all of them.

Someone said in the chat you better not care call Aaron Donald a dork.

Why Aaron Donald is not in charge of stuff?

Right?

I mean, Aaron Donald is not a tech billionaire.

What are you mad?

Sometimes I think somebody hit you in the head with a brick before you come on here.

Man, I understand some of your comments anyway.

Yeah, it's just it's it's that kind of stuff, and it's supremely frustrating.

Yoah, damn it fabricate stories on a family front.

Because you heard mister Morale a pathetic master manipulator.

I could smell the tails on you.

Now.

You're not a billionaire artist.

You're a scam artist with hopes of being accepted.

Tommy Hill figures it out.

But FUBU would never been at your collection that last one.

Maybe not because none of them are black.

But you're not a GM, You're not a good You're a scam artist with hopes that people will accept you.

That is literally what every single thing that they do is just infuriating.

I gotta let it go.

I know it is infuriating because we do feel at times powerless to stop this stuff from having as a football fan, you have no choice, like just like I felt with being a Commanders fan all those years and having Dan Snyder just do the dumbest shit another dork, as I said, do this the dumbest shit.

You're like, man, do you have a human bone in your body at all?

And it becomes like there's nobody to call these people to task.

There's nobody to stop them doing what they're doing.

There's no system of checks and balances to restrain these people from their business practices because, as you said, he's done this to so many players, it's just standard business for him, and he loses out most of the time in the negotiations.

He has the money, but for him him, money is so whatever that he is willing to take a chance to pay the person less if the market doesn't match what the person is asking for.

But every single time he seems lately to get burned by it all and have to pay more to the people than he would have initially if he had just signed those contracts.

So yeah, it's a maddening thing.

But he likes the drama.

Unfortunately all of them do, and that's why we all suffer.

Yep, because they messy.

I know you're a massive manipulator and habitual liar too.

Don't tell no lie about me, and I won't tell truth about.

You, just like, Oh God, I love it, I love it.

I almost want to say to Jerry Jones, I think when you said that's a sexy red you think you stand next to too bad picture?

Like I just, I just I feel like that's exactly what he thinks.

Bro.

That's great.

But we I had two hundred and fifty of you all joining us live right now.

Thanks so much for hanging out with us as we talk about the things we want to talk about.

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Where can they find the stuff you're working on?

My man?

You can find me out the swaggy blurred on all platforms, YouTube, Twitch, social media.

I'm gonna have my relay out of the theater reaction.

I did recorded it yesterday, but I just didn't have time to put it up.

I went to the AMC screen unseen, so I'll put my thoughts on that out pretty soon.

You'll also see me over on Capes and Cows on Friday and then here every Tuesday.

You know, as long as we are good.

To go, yeah, absolutely or most one of this story, winz got needs you to help me through what is going on here between Cameron and Omar Gooding who Cameron called Omar Gooding Junior as a shot to his brother.

So apparently there's.

Dramas he booked him on a movie on purpose to mess with him and never put the movie.

Like what the origin of this beef in this feud man?

So it was it was essentially Cameron was talking shit about Omar Gooding and called him Omar Goodding Junior.

Omar Goodning got upset about because obviously Cuba getting Junior his brother, like that's the junior and all that kind of stuff.

So Omar Gooding started putting out a bunch of dish tracks against Cameron.

But the thing is, it's like, even though they apparently were like halfway decent, Yeah, he's never really been a rapper.

The only rap that he really did was on Smart Guy, as for like a couple episodes when they were like putting like either a rap group or an R and B duo together.

It's just not necessarily his forte.

Right.

So CAMRA's got beef after hearing these told things, and he goes, now, I'm gonna get I'm gonna get him because he essentially called him like a washed out like Disney actor whatever whatever.

Right, So he hires him to be on a movie he has other producers doing.

He's watching from behind the scenes, and you had Omar Gooding like signing the paperwork, flying out to Miami, being flown out to Miami, getting paid for it for a movie that just from the look of it didn't necessarily look like it's gonna be very good.

But he like did his role or whatever, and then Cam Cameron was out here making fun of him and all sorts of stuff, being like, yeah, that was meaning I was behind the scenes.

I was just making fun looking at me, got his titts out, got his man titt's in his gut out, just blah blah blah, trying to do some pushups, like going on and on and on about him.

So then Omar eventually responds back and he goes, not only have I got way more distracts for yo ass, because I know you're not gonna get in the studio, But on top of that, Okay, so I got a free trip to Miami and got twenty five hundred bucks for a shitty movie that'll never come out, and I gotta worry about.

Okay, book me again, nigga, Wait, what up?

Book me again?

Baby?

Up?

What else you got?

I would love anohing to do another nothing movie.

That would be great.

Look, if my hater wants to pay me twenty five hundred dollars, give me a free trip to my I'm kind of down to let him do it because he thinks he's getting me, but it instead I'm just like cool, thanks for the free trip of the free money.

I don't like it's such an unusual video because Cameron starts out giving Omar Gooding credit for those distracts, like he said, those are actually good.

I get it.

So he's almost encouraging this battle between them and Omar Gooding.

I mean, like his response is fascinating to me, and him saying like, you know what, pay me to go do all it.

I'll absolutely do it again.

And he says like, thank you man, thank you.

I really appreciate.

It's a fasting way to try to diffuse a few it is to be like, thank you for this, thank you for all this, thank for all the stuff you're doing.

And then he says, I'm not done with you, and we're going to see what's up next.

And people are watching for what's up next.

So I have not listened to any of these distracts.

I have no idea what this is all.

I haven't listened to them either.

I've heard that they're actually not bad, but I just it's just really funny to me that he thinks winning.

I mean, I would say, if you've got Jerry Jones money, I know, I know, I know that, I know that I know that Cameron has made a good living over between his podcasts and sure like his his rap career and everything else like that.

But I venture he's probably worth somewhere around, Like call it fitty mil something like that.

It's just a stab in the dark.

You're gonna waste twenty Like even if you have fifty millis, you're gonna literally waste twenty five hundred to pay him that the money to fly him down there, which I'm sure was first class for the movie in the first place, and then to put to fund a fake movie, Like you don't have fifty cent money.

You don't have Jerry Jones money.

That seems I respect the petty, but that just seems like irresponsible petty.

There's other ways to do that.

You could have got him to do a cameo for like twenty dollars and then made him say something embarrassing of shit like that to me would have been like would have made more sense.

Again, you got Jerry Jones fit money by all means, do what you want.

Then then set up an entire Disneyland for his ass just to embarrass him.

But but you I don't know that.

That to me just seemed a little That seems like a waste of money.

Yeah, I don't disagree with you, man.

Apparently the beef started months back when Cam Cameron criticized actors like Omar on his show It Is What It Is, saying dudes were sitting around hoping for fifty cent to bless them with roles instead of making their own moves.

He even called him Omar Gooding Junior, which we alluded to, which clearly hit a nerve.

Man.

So this is fascinating because, like I looked at Omar's resume.

Omar works, and he, like Omar, is sitting around desperate for a job, like he was in five movies last year.

He's done a bunch of TV shows and he consistently works since he was at Nickelodeon.

So he's not a guy who's like necessary.

Well, he was at Nickelodeon and at Disney because remember he was on Smart Guy and that was on ABC, so like he was doing all of that.

And yes, he's got one hundred and twenty one projects IMDb reports as an actor and he has twenty three coming so.

Like mind blowing to this.

So he works.

Yeah, So it seems like an odd thing.

To go in on an actor who consistently works and isn't sitting around waiting for fifty cent to give him a role.

And I don't what has he been on at fifty cent produced?

I don't see any Power oh Power?

Okay, point because there because there's been a bunch of Power spinoffs as well.

So like there's there's the original Power and then four Power books so book one, two, three, and four.

So yeah, that would have that's five different shows.

You're gonna put them on.

But I've seen the White Guy spin off clips on TikTok.

There's a white guy Power spin off.

Yeah, oh you mean you mean you mean the white character in Power?

And yeah, yeah, I thought you meant white people had made a Power spinoff.

I said, bro, what white Power?

God damn, that's bro.

That actually is kind of a hilarious That might be a really funny TikTok sketch.

It'd be like guys were on a corner.

There's an untapped marker right now.

You know, Power did really well with black people.

We think that we have the ultimate answer to power, and we can get a demographic that hasn't been touched.

Great, what's it called white power?

Whoa whoa no, no, no, no, no, no, hear me out.

So here's the thing.

It's just like power.

And we also have a character named ghost.

See he even wears a ghost mask.

And that's what it's like.

Whoa, whoa, bro hold on, do you not see this?

Coming next week Fox Nation's first scripted series, White.

White Power, brought to you by Jerry Jones.

Oh man, that'd be perfect hotly god, all right, anything more to say on because I know we wanted to talk about that and have some fun with that beef.

Anything you want to say.

I mean that.

It was just really funny to me to see that.

I also loved that.

At one point Omar Gooding was just like, I got titties.

Man, I'm a man of my fitties.

You think I give a damn?

I got children and guest dad by a fool?

Who am I trying to impress?

I don't care.

And on top of that, you pay me to do some push ups.

I appreciate that, but thanks for having me get healthy?

Like all right, well listen, that was all the topics that we had.

So she would just get into the car.

We had.

Odell Beckham still, oh yeah, sorry, let's talk about obj Odell Beckham junior.

Uh.

There were rumors earlier today that he was retiring from the NFL completely.

There was some nice Adam and all this kind of stuff.

Adam Yeah, of all people, Adam Schefter did it on his Twitter and there was all kinds of calls, Oh, bro, what's the truth?

Holy crap, it is definitely a parody account.

Oh I'm seeing it.

It's Adam Shelfler and it said it very small, but like they did the thing where like the l is like one and all that kind of stuff, so people didn't notice.

But yeah, so people were like going at Adam Shefter because they thought he did this right exactly.

Yeah.

But but I'm dying at Odell's response, like he what did he say he said in the first when he goes lol, wtf when was that announced?

Aby who?

That's funny.

Appreciate the concerns, but this ain't over yet.

Yeah, and then you put another one out later saying no, seriously, please stop reading everything on the internet and stop texting me happy retirement before you piss me off.

That will get no response.

I promise you.

The day I'm done, i'll let you know again if you text me happy retirement.

I'm just gonna have to block you, thanks, because that's the thing.

This was a parody account, so people took it and ran with it though clearly, and we're reaching out to OBJ to the point where he felt the need to comment on it twice on social media because so many people aren't noticing that it was a parody account.

So that is funny.

I feel bad for OBJ to a degree.

That's but that's funny shit, Oh for sure.

Yeah, absolutely, Let's.

See we have the new mass You want to play that real quick?

When we play that real quick?

Yeah, we can also real quick.

Though.

I forgot the other thing that Jerry, that Denzel said about Jerry.

He goes, there's box Office and then there's Oscars.

Jerry, it's been a while.

Huh.

You ain't been to the show, so you wouldn't know what it is to win, That's what he said to him.

Yeah, I remember him saying that.

I genuinely just forgot that he said that, But yes, that was that was another It wasn't just not all money and good money, Jerry, it was he also hit him with it, you ain't been to the show, so you wouldn't know what it is to win.

That's crazy.

That's he's just picking the fight.

Now.

This will be a fun thing when it actually goes down.

All right, let's play this real quick.

Wits has sent me this, and I want us to bring more social media stuff onto the show, to have fo my favorite clips from TikTok or favorite moments from from Twitter or whatever.

But this is this was a this was put out here.

What's the accounts?

And so I want to give credit here.

Gustavo At senior man Kels posted this video.

It is clearly a TikTok video.

But here we go.

You have eighteen times fifty.

You could just half the eighteen and double out easier multification.

Here.

I can hear it.

I just can't see it.

Did you block it on purpose?

Oh?

Oh oh no, uh, there we go?

Can oh I see if I go full screen and blocks it?

Okay, So I'll just play.

This, Okay, If you have eighteen times pece, let's start.

You know, if you have eighteen times fifty, you could just half the eighteen and double the fifty.

Now you'll have an easier multiplication nine times one hundred, which gives the same answer.

It's nine hundred, so simple.

Yet somehow I didn't think of maget trips.

It's not only usual for math, but it can give us a deeper understanding of how multiplication works.

The idea is that whenever we have a multiplication, we can half one of the numbers and double the other and we get exactly the same answer.

But sometimes by doing this we find ourselves with a much easier multiplication.

Now, let's say we've got fourteen times fifty.

That might be one that would normally have you reaching for the calculator, but let's try our technique.

We're going to half the fourteen and double the fifty, so we'll end up with seven times one hundred instead.

It's a calculation.

There are faces between.

So we've got twenty five times sixteen.

If we double the twenty five and half the sixteen, we'll get fifty times eight.

That's okay, But I think we can do if we double the fifty and half the eight, we'll get one hundred times four.

But we don't have to stop there.

We could double and half again to get two hundred times to double and half again four hundred times one.

No one can argue with.

That, And all of these multiplications.

Is for when get update this method, I just like the technique.

It's something I can definitely take them to show my kids.

I don't like it.

I'm never gonna like I do my own cocklations.

I'll do my own calculations on.

My man said, you don't have to calculate money.

Right, I do my own calculations in my head.

I do not need this.

Oh that is crazy.

I just I literally like.

The funny thing is is somewhere deep down I knew that and I've done that in the past.

Yeah, but it's one of those things that with it just spelled out like that, I've just been thinking about in recent years.

Yeah, the hell did not just do that?

Bro?

Like, why why?

Why the hell did not?

Like I moved someal points around all the time to try and make math easier and stuff like that, Like I get that, but why did I think to do something as simple as that.

It's it's so easy, it's so easy.

It's mind blowing and they should be Oh did not teach this in the classrooms for years?

I don't know, because people have always had trouble with math in math class.

So, yeah, a little lesson for you all.

Which BT dubs.

I just wanted to go and check and see.

So according to the twenty twenty four rankings, this is Wikipedia and they were using Forbes as their as their source.

Dallas Cowboys valuation at ten point one billion.

On State Warriors are number two at eight point eight.

Los Angeles Rams are number three at seven point six.

Crazy.

New York Yankees are number four at seven point five to five.

New York Knicks are number five at seven point five.

Patriots are number six at seven point four.

New York Giants are number seven at seven point three, Lakers are eight at seven point one, Jets are nine at six point nine, which is crazy.

The Niners are ten at six point eight, Raiders are eleven at six point seven.

The Eagles are twelve, tied with Real Madrid at six point six.

And then so that's your first soccer team football team and the next one is Manchester United State TX point five to five.

So like, again, maybe it's because you just want to say I'm the best, but literally everybody clowns you.

I would much rather be the Rams who just won a title, the Patriots who just won like six titles.

Uh, you know, the Giants who won two and you know in the tens, the Niners who at least have been to multiple Super Bowls and the Eagles who have won two in the last like seven to eight years.

I would much rather be that much lower on the list and have some chips than to be like, hey man, we're worth ten billion, We're worth every other sports team.

Yeah, kiss my ass.

There you go, Well, said Winston.

Well said, all right, well let's get into.

The questions, brother, because we're getting We got to get into getting and out of here in the next thirty minutes.

Michael McKenzie says, hey, guys, here to help your nut.

Thank you, Michael.

Do you get the reference?

Yeah?

Wait, okay, okay, I wasn't sure if you saw it.

That's why.

Okay, man, that's that was a good episode.

But I was also sad and laughing at the same time.

Well because while the puppy stuff, no, all.

The ice stuff, like, there's gonna be people who join because they're in desperate financial straits and they're going to do things that are horrific because they have to pay bills or support a family member.

Oh and it's it's heartbreaking.

I guarantee you the lines she used in the show, they definitely have used it.

If it's brown it goes down, Like I clearantee you they have used that.

And the fact that like, and that's where south Park to me has always been so like top notch as far as straight efstrating somebody bro.

The fact that they went to heaven to try and bounce brown folk is crazy.

That is crazy, man.

Yeah, south Park is like the eminem of comedy.

Man, that really is.

Jim Once is well post pandemic hemics of impacts.

Sorry, while post pandemic habits have impacted all movies, Dune, Minecraft, Wicked are still hitting eight hundred million, so I think there is some brand damage to Marvel.

Yeah, I don't disagree, but I still stand by think about everything that you just mentioned.

So Dune that became a whole event movie because we haven't seen a Dune in however many years, so that this was a remaking plus villain Denny Villeneuve and it.

The first one did not do well because unfortunately it happened in the middle of the pandemic, so it just did not make money.

The second one did, but that's just because people had built stuff up.

So fine, Minecraft, I already said kids' movies did like that family stuff that's automatic pass and then Wicked.

Yes, did a huge thing.

But again you tapped into that audience.

I was talking about about women, like mainly women that were super into that, and you put out one of like a big ip that they're they're into and it did gang buzzles.

Now, they all had to be good movies, right, But like that, that's the whole thing versus Yes, I do think the brand damage has been done.

But don't sit here and tell me you only listed the successes.

Start listing other movies that had big names tied to them or big budgets and things like that.

They're expecting and bombed.

Indiana Jones is a great one.

You put way too much money in that.

You may nothing.

That's just another example of just genuinely the markets have changed and people don't know how to handle it properly.

From the studio side of things, Yeah, good point.

Chief executive Officer John Pipayaz says, one rule in life, do you follow each day?

Or try to?

Yes?

Do you try to follow each day or try to?

I don't know if I get that last party.

He's just trying to say to you follow each day with the next I think, Oh, I see yep, that's often says Fantastic four is great, but the sixty percent drops every week shows audiences don't want to get out.

If it gets five hundred and fifty million, I'd be shocked.

Feels like a failure.

Yeah, if it crosses five hundred, I'll be shocked, to be honest, at this point because of the drops and people were exhausted, like it was.

Weapons is something new, Freak Your Friday is something new.

But even those numbers aren't like the numbers are Fantastic four opening weekend.

It's just that those are alternate things that people can go see.

They're new.

I think people are exhausted from the summer.

They want a little bit of a break, and so here's something new like Weapons and Freaker Friday.

But yeah, I think Fantastic fours is cooked pretty much now.

Probably it's probably almost done.

I mean, truthfully, I do think they'll hit five hundred.

Maybe.

I agree five point fifty at this point will be a little bit of a shock, But yeah, I think it's pretty much done.

I think the other part of it is you're spot on that people gotta remember, like money is not doing well for folks right now.

People are holding onto your coins.

So like again, if it's not something that I absolutely must see or I payal this day, literally every black mama when you were like, Mama, can I go see Fantastic for Uh?

Is that gonna come out on Disney Plus?

How much might I pay for that?

Damn Disney Plus?

You try to go the damn movies, You've gotta wait.

You'll ask fort to five days.

Ain't playing a shit.

I guarantee you the number of families that have decided it will eventually come to streaming.

I'm good unless it's something they absolutely feel like they have to see, right right.

The worst thing is if your mom understands how to access your Q.

All the movies you haven't watched.

Look at all these movies you haven't watched.

Literally, that's the word.

Ah.

Why about of these video games?

You're trying to go to a damn arcade.

You gotta get in there and play some to Mario.

Ah, that game is like twenty years old.

I don't care.

I paid a good five hundred dollars.

So that's super Nintendo.

You ha'd plugged that shit.

Instance eighty four, the plastic is still on the game.

You gotta get in there and play it.

Bad sends to call Aaron Donald, who the hell called me a dork?

Still going with that joke.

I don't know what happened.

I don't know what that joke is.

Then someone needs to do with deep analysis of all the billion dollar films from twenty fifteen twenty nineteen and see what China counted for Studios typically only get twenty five percent of China box office.

Feels like comparing oranges to apples.

Yeah, I mean, I think there is.

I mean, Dan does a really good deep dive into when he does his charts show, But there is more to explore here.

I agree, and I think it is case by case.

It is filmed by film.

I don't think you can make sweeping generalizations about any of this stuff, really, because there are exceptions to every rule, and you're just looking at the patterns for certain films.

Yeah I could.

I will give you the top five of twenty fifteen and let me let me give you what the domestic in the foreign Remember what the number one grossing movie in twenty fifteen.

Was, Cikari?

No, I don't know what was Cicari.

The Force Awakens pulled two billion, did nine did nine hundred and thirty six domestically, it did one point one internationally.

I don't know specifics on China, but just just comparable, but like one is definitely bigger than the other.

Next movie, do you wild guess on what was the next?

I'm terrible at the movie release states.

Okay, Jurassic World the first one six hundred and fifty two domestically, one point h one billion internationally, Furious Seven only three hundred and fifty three million domestically, one point one six two billion internationally, Avengers Age of Ultron four to fifty nine domestically nine hundred and forty three million internationally, and then finally Minions, which did one point one five three hundred and thirty six domestically eight hundred and twenty three internationally.

So again, I stand by the fact that if you're not taking that into consideration and realizing that our relationship with the world and how things have gone have genuinely changed, the movie industry looks different, everything else that's been going on looks different.

And and if we're not pulling those numbers like we were internationally, you're not going to readily see billion dollar movies.

Right there, you go, said by Winston a Marshall because the closest the closest would have been Force Awakens and was at nine to thirty six.

They across the billion in America.

So yeah, and it's still the highest grossing domestic hall of any movie ever by Miles uh Matt Sims and McCall been up for thirty seven hour straight, So definitely Mania.

Yeah.

I can tell by the cor uh See Blacks his next three MCU films will make over one point five billion.

Debo just made one point four billion last year after the Marvel's bomb with the lowest box office.

Those two will be in the next two with downy x men og event.

Here's what I'll say.

I don't think anything is guaranteed, and if those films are not well reviewed, if they're mixed reviews, I think the idea of one point five billion is not possible because people now are burnt too many times by Marvel and if they start to see mixed reviews from these films that even are supposed to be the reliable films, I don't see them going out in the same numbers to support the films as they did in the past.

And look, Spider Man Brand New Day is a new director Deston, Daniel Kretton is not John Watts, and so we don't know what Deston's movie is going to look like and if it's going to be successful.

As good as shan Chi was.

Some people did have legitimate complaints about story structure and about the direction of that move.

Then you look at the Doom, you look at Doomsday, and you look.

At Sucre Wars.

They're bringing it back downy, which a lot of people have called a desperate move.

What if it doesn't work, what if it doesn't fit seamlessly, what if there are holes in what they're doing, that's going to affect the box office.

So I don't think one point five minute billion is guaranteed for any of these.

Movies, one thousand percent.

And just to further, just kind of just twist, the Knife Justice League in twenty seventeen still pulled six hundred and sixty one million only two twenty nine here and four hundred and thirty two internationally.

So like again, we are just in a different marketplace.

We can almost all universally agree that Jostice League was garbage.

Everybody, Snyder fans, non Snyder fans, Marvel fans, whoever, that it was just not good, and yet somehow it's still pulled six to sixty one.

And yet we're not like I think we can all agree that Superman, Fantastic Four, Thunderbolts is all a higher quality movie than Jostice League.

Oh yeah, but we are just in a different world.

Yeah, Reggie Brown says a new thing is to praise Weapons so you can trash Sinners.

I've been reading x comments how Weapons is superior while Sinners as woke garbage races.

That is such bullshit.

I mean, Sinners is a bet?

Or is this good of a movie if not better than Weapons?

In my opinion, haven't seen Weapons yesterday.

There are holes you can poke in Weapons, which I did in a spoiler which I released I think tomorrow.

But to me, both of those films are effective and powerful.

What they're doing to compare them against each other is utter nonsense.

Without getting into spoilers.

Yeah, is there any relation to what is being discussed in Sinners to Weapons?

Is there anything about you know, liberation or connection to ancestors or anything like that.

Not really, No, just both horror movies, right, yes, just both horror movies.

One deals with clearly a lot of white people who are affected by what's happened.

There are black children who were taken as well in the movie, but they focus on the white parents just as Long, Justin Long Josh Brolin, and then the white teacher and then the white cop, so I think that's what they're looking and the white drug addict so, and the white aunt who comes in, so they're all looking at that.

And there's only one person of color in the main cast that's Benedicuong, and even he's with a white guy, So you have that element here.

So I see.

The other thing about it that's kind of funny to me is like, Sinners hasn't been in theaters for months?

Why you got my name in your mouth?

Are you that?

Are you that sensitive that all of a sudden you feel like you got to bring me up like like like that old fifty seventy Why is that?

Mefal?

Yeah, it's like literally I'm over here doing my thing, counting my money and just happy, like go get your bag.

Why are you bringing me into this?

Yeah?

Exactly.

Yeah, it's veiled racist crap that you're just so sick of seeing.

Chris Corcoran says outside Marvel DC or Star Wars.

What's the worst fandom worst?

I I want to say it, but I really don't want to get attacked.

I really I want.

To say passionate, not worst necessarily, so I would say the Game of Thrones people, the Walking Dead people at ONCET.

We're pretty insane.

I mean, I remember macuga stepping down from hosting The Walking Dead or Game of Thrones after show, and they asked me to do it because mccugar was getting all kinds of terrible comments and from people who are crazy about it because he was trying to bring a little levity to his hosting and people did not want any levity.

We're dealing with those those shows.

So yeah, it was an interesting experience.

I'm an equal opportunity offender pretty much every like Army Nation whatever.

For musicians, all of them, they're all They're all horrible, genuinely.

So, whether it be you know, Drake Stands or the Barbs or the Beehive or the Swifties or whoever, there is an insidious nature because of the parasocial relationship with those artists that it always comes to a head the ugliest part of the group, like behavioral wise, not not physically, but behavior wise always comes to the forefront the exact same way you see was or MCU, Bros.

Or whatever whatever it is.

So I would genuinely say, like the armies or nations quote unquote of musicians.

Yeah fair, I think that's fair.

Joys Romer says, can Star Wars Rebound.

Oh, I'll tell you it's an action army that was the worst fandom.

Yeah, suck it, Jesus Christ.

Eight years later, your bastards.

Joyce Romer says, can Star Wars rebound with Mandoin Grogu, I think it's gonna need more than just Mando and Grogu to rebound.

It needs to go on a run.

And so will the Ray movie be good?

Will the Mangold movie be good?

Will this star Fighter movie that they're lining up a lot of really good actors to be a part of because they need to get a run going in terms of getting people excited.

Yes, go ahead, Please tell me you see the comment that came up from Paul Hitchcock being like, nah, is the dull self censor?

This all goes in there too.

Oh No, I didn't say that.

I didn't say that.

Hello, All right, there we go.

What do you think winsy.

Can they rebound with mandol gorgor do you agree with me?

That needs to go on a bit of a run, and they need to go on a run.

But they But that's a step in the right direction.

It starts with one yeah, exactly good point.

Yes, it starts with one.

Fantastic fourteen.

I lived by this.

Good movies tanking the box office all the time.

But no bad movie has made a billion.

It means it wasn't.

Mentally, I agree, Draassic World Dominion made a billion, and that's a horrible fun even.

That movie, real bad bad.

I understand what you're trying to say, but nah, bro hold on, let me let me run it back, let me let me pull some stuff up here.

The Jungle Book wasn't good.

Uh, dungle Book is close enough.

Nine to sixty six.

I'll give it to it.

Let's see, original Jurassic World was fine.

It was fine.

It wasn't good, it wasn't bad.

It was fine.

Let's see those are all good.

That's a Fallen Kingdom, not very good.

Made one point three.

Acolman is fine, it's fine.

Venom almost there at eight fifty six.

It's fine at best.

But most people think it's bad and that made money.

Let's see the Lion King remake, where all scarily you're looking at animals that can emote one point six billion, Bro, you know what I'm saying.

I personally like the first Captain Marvel.

A lot of people don't one point one two eight billion Rise of Skywalker one point zero seven to four, and pretty much every Star Wars fan says that movie is Garbaum.

Yes, so like nah, it happens.

It definitely happens, but it doesn't necessarily it's not a good thing.

You don't want to start off with the bad movie.

You have a good one.

You're very kind to leave out the Transformers movie.

I just didn't even go for an effect to do it.

Kyle Wilson, which potentially buddy cop movie would you rather see?

Gary Busey and Dice Clay are Christopher Lloyd and Danny de Vito, both directed by James Gunn, which gard of Lloyd Danny Devita.

You're gonna get better.

Cold Lloyd and de Vito, But that man, they're both old me.

Yes, yes, get some current references, Kyle, No, no, no, I get it.

I just I just the funny thing with those last two like I just I hadn't seen Always Sonny in a while until the crossover, and I was like, oh my god, I love Danny Devita, but my boys age.

Yeah, I'm d voos.

Reviews don't matter.

Look at Fantastic Four versus Jurassic World.

Hype matters.

Well, I think, see, these.

Generalizations are really mean, are meaningless because they don't apply because there are plenty of films that when they.

Get reviewed well, people go see them and give them a chance.

When you're talking franchise installments, yes you could argue reviews don't matter, and it's not usually case specific, but when it comes to a lot of the other movies that populate the twelve month schedule of movies, reviews absolutely matter because that inspires people to go see these movies, and that's why there's a you know, there's that kind of connection between viewers and film still.

Well, because like the other thing about it is, I had heard more people talk kind of bad about Lelo and Stitch compared to the OG because of things that they ret conned and all that kind of stuff.

And again crossed a billion, like you know what I mean, Like it it did okay on the Tomatometer at seventy two percent, which is still relatively fine, but had ninety two with the audiences.

But I genuinely heard so many people say, you really ruined something special by taking this out or the other out of the movie.

Well to Billy, I.

Think Centers in no way hits the box office heights that it did without.

So many have to word about the same thing about Black Panther, even though Black Panther was well done.

It's the same thing the hype train.

What.

So, don't get me wrong, the hype train is very important.

I would agree with that the hype train for something is in incredibly important.

But I think to say, to throw out reviews and stuff like that, up to a point, it really depends on who we're talking about.

If we're talking about those reviewers that like turn their nose up at everything and they think they're better than everybody and all that, sure, nobody's listening to them, But like there's others that like come off as a little bit more even if they're serious, they come off as not so hoity toity, and people will listen, you know what I mean.

So I think people follow you for that reason.

I think people follow Dan for that reason, because like, you guys have something real to say about it, but you don't pretend like you're better than everybody.

Oh yeah, no, of course not.

What was that responsible?

Well, I don't.

I don't pretend to be better anybody, but I will call people out if they try to fuck around.

So some people I thought you were saying.

I thought that was a yeah, sure, No, no, some people.

I call them out, and that's not what it is.

But yeah, thank you for saying.

Let's hit these stream labs for you.

Rolling On Frantastic three fourteen says some tequila.

We have moved away from the first priority of movie going, and that's was I entertained.

All the reviews come afterwards.

For example, I really enjoyed Megan two point zero because I had a fun time in the theater, but I know it wasn't for everyone.

Uh yeah, no, I don't think we've moved past was I entertained.

Everyone has that as an element The reviews are did you entertain me?

Because you'll see a lot of reviews that you can see encoded language when they're trying to say, yes, didn't this didn't work for me?

This didn't work for me, This wasn't strong, but I still.

Had a good time in the theater because overall it entertained me, even though I can see the flaws in the construction of the film, and so I think they, I don't think we have moved past that.

Well, what do you think here was?

Yeah, I don't.

I don't think that we've fully moved past it either.

I think that it that is certainly something to bring up.

It's something to keep in mind, but you know it, that's that's because the first Megan honestly did well because people were entertained enough and it was something new.

Yes, if we're being honest, that first Megan was not good, which is entertaining.

So they tried to double down on the nonsense and it just didn't hit.

So I think, I think these studio heads need to not look at something the way that Like they looked at Sa Morbius and they were like, Oh it's morbid time, bro.

They love it go again, Like that's what it feels like sometimes when these sequels get green light and they're worse than they were.

Yeah, But as I said two weeks ago, if you if if the audience keeps going to these fucking sequels, then the studio goes, well, we'll just keep making the stupid shit.

And there's the thing.

And so all I was trying to say is people got to take.

Responsibility for their own movie going habits, as well as calling out the executives and the creators quad.

Fay says, Roca, stay with me.

Now, can you invite Winston onto the Cinophiles and get Steve to talk a hood classics such as Friday or Baby Boy?

Winston?

Can I see you?

Fam?

What's up?

That was good?

Well, we've had Winston on with Jay.

Yeah, we did Black Panther, which was over three parts.

It was an incredible It's still considered some of our greatest time.

Man.

Yeah, you guys were awesome on that show.

So listen, I would love to get I think Steve would be totally be down to do Friday, Baby Boy.

Are you guys back, because I thought you guys had retired the show.

No, my god, No, we've been going ever.

We've been going strong for No.

We'll take a couple sometimes we'll take a week or two off or a week off or whatever, but no, we've been going strong.

Right now, we're doing we're recording our Jaws we're revisiting Jaws fiftieth anniversary.

Yeah, we just did nineteen seventy eight Superman with Vogel, So yeah, it's strong francising three fourteens is on the satistical statistical side of things, It's funny how the crime statistics in DC go up when he's in town and down when he leaves.

I think there's something there.

I mean, I actually heard a pundit that said specifically him doing this yesterday, especially because everybody can point to it and go, the numbers have actually been down.

What the hell are we turningving about?

Yeah, you can turn around after a week or two of it being like, look at the numbers, they're so low.

It's because we sent him in, sent him in, and the numbers went down.

Nobody's ready for it, because clear because the problem is he's just he's continuing to test the waters.

Because the other thing that got announced today was it's not just that going on in DC, but putting a mandate in to be able to uh mobilize the National Guard at any moment's notice and have a response within an hour for any sort of protest.

Oh yeah, this is what he wants.

He's so sensitive he's such a little, a little cry baby that he needs to have a guards on hand to go and counter any protest because he knows he's getting smoked.

He is getting some molked, and that's why he's doing all of this authoritarian shit.

And also to distract from the up STEM files.

Yeah, I know Cuomo's on there to release them.

I'm planting on there to burn him to.

I don't get him.

I agree with my favorite comment I think I saw this week was oh, oh, and by the way, release the Epstein files.

Just to everything.

Oh and by the way, release the Epstein files.

It's so frustrating.

A man, do it?

Do it?

Do it?

Johnny Boy and Winston ranked these sports commentators from best to worse.

Mike Breen, Jim Nance, Ian Eagle, Kevin Harlan, and Gus Johnson if you all know him, Eric Collins.

I'm not familiar with Eric, but the other ones I am am.

I kind of need to see all that in a row.

Yeah, I can't, I can't, I can't.

Off the top of my head.

Can you read the one more time?

And I'll just pick my favorite.

An my screen, Jim Nance, Ian Eagle, Kevin Harlan and Gus Johnson.

I guess Jim nance yeah, even though he's like homes.

Yeah, I think Nancy's number one as well.

Mike Breen is probably two, Gus three, Ian Eagle, and then Kevin Harlan for Mink.

I love Gus and people too many people criticize Gus.

Gus is amazing, Samuel says.

With the UFC signing a deal with Paramount, thoughts on the UFC starting to become a Trump rally, with Trump appearing a lot of the events and Dana White floating the idea of an UFC event in front of the White House signed a former UFC fan, Well, remember you know, Paramount paid that or CBS paid that essential.

Bribe to alleged bribe to make the merger go through.

So the guy who owns Paramount, Ellison, he is a Trump supporter himself, So it makes sense that they would sign a deal with UFC and all of this.

They want to be in business with that dude.

So yeah, I'm not surprised anything that.

Ye, No, I'm not.

I'm not surprised either.

It is what it is, man, I mean, look, you got that.

I think I'm more disappointed in the fact that it sounds like NFL network is getting absorbed by ESPN or something like that.

And the only thing worse is because ESPN just put out their betting platforms, so like it makes things look worse and worse.

I don't love it, oh man.

The more they go into betting, the more these like look at how many athletes been caught in the last few days.

A few weeks Michael.

Porter Junia was on a damn podcast talking about how he was like, you know, my cousin guy, you know, like a thousand on me doing this and something like that that and then you know, all of a sudden, I got stomachache.

Man, Like toda, everybody get a little bag.

It's so stupid to me that these people who make money off this bets, like these rich billionaires were part of the NFL.

The owners are sitting there chastising the players who don't make anywhere near what these owners make for doing these things or being tempted to do these things.

It's ridiculous, man.

Anyway, Doug Developer says, hey, guys.

Richard Jefferson said on Garry Owens podcast they would never play for the Jazz because Utah is the most boring state if you were an NBA player, which three cities would never would you never want to live in and play for?

Are you crazy?

I'm not answering that.

What's wrong with that?

Essentially asks us to have fans in those cities hate us for saying we would never want to be in those seas.

Didn't know the blood feud that was going on with me in Oklahoma City?

Do you remember that from Dame Time?

Bro?

You forget so.

After Sophie Cunningham for saying shit about Detroit and she was like, I wasn't trying to say so, I'm.

Well because well because what she said.

And it doesn't help that she is known as Maga Barbie bro like like because people like had kind of called her out on some stuff.

It sounds like you should have said, anybody's trying to play that black ass city Like that's bro, that's kind of crazy.

Like I don't know.

I think it's also different because we're not actually on sports teams.

So like, I'll answered enough in that I wouldn't.

I don't have an issue with Sacramento as a city, but I would not want to live and play there just because I have been a Sacramento a couple of times.

It reminds me a lot of Fort Worth.

It's just farm town.

There's not much to do.

So it's not it's not because I'm like Sacramento.

I just am like if I'm gonna be in a city, and especially as a celebrity, there's a certain level of like, yo, let me be like the celeb of like even Cleveland a little bit better than than Like I'm not trying to play for no Browns, but I'll play for the Cavaliers like that.

That's kind of fine, you know what I'm saying, Like that's that.

It is what it is, Like, I'm not trying to play in Jacksonville.

Jacksonville there's too many hurricanes and I've seen way too much just kind of nonsense down there.

But enough with the Florida, you know what I mean?

Miami, Like you know what I'm saying, Like it just it just depends.

It's it's it's again for me.

What can I do when said city?

I can tell you this, I'll just go in sports, my sports teams.

Right.

I would never want to live or play in Dallas because I don't like the Cowboys.

I'm a I'm a Commanders fan.

That's great, and Grain did in me.

Although I love that.

Never mind, I'm not gonna.

Mean I wouldn't want to play in Philly either, for that the same reason, bro, New York York is fine, like the DC is fine.

I really wouldn't want to play in Philly.

I'm gonna be honest with you.

I don't.

I don't.

I don't vibe with them burning cities down when they.

Win, like eating horse crap when you win.

And listen.

I went to Florida State, so I wouldn't want to represent Gainesville as a.

As a seminole.

I wouldn't want as a Gator town.

So you know, that's as far as I'll answer that question, because I think if you've got a city, if you've got to see this, got a Target and a best Buy and an Olive Garden, I'm set.

I'm good.

I don't need anything else.

That's my city.

I got to run here in a minute, but I'm dying.

In some of these comments, someone goes Sacramento Mills love the Brothers.

I'm just saying.

Somebody else said, my friend losing Sacramento, make it sad.

Sacramento noises.

And then cow bells.

Joyce Robert says, may the forced me with you guys.

Have either of you played.

Of the Old Republic?

Is that what it is?

I've played Knights of the Old Republic, but I never played the MMO the Old Republic.

I heard it was good, but I just I didn't have a PC at the time.

Yeah, I think that missed me at the time.

I did not play it myself.

But thank you very much for the comment.

Joys Uh And whilst one here Chris Corcoran, did you see Culomo had a secret call with Trump?

Yes?

Also I heard he might be in the Epstein files of Winston reference.

How long before the dem establishment endorses Cuoma Man, I hope they don't.

They better not.

I hope they do.

They're gonna They're gonna permanently lose like a generation of those voters.

We got the wrong people in charge of that that fucking party.

Man, like the wrong I told you.

I'm as I'm I'm agist.

I'm tired of these old dudes that are not gals, that are not going to be around.

I'm making decisions for the people that will be like just just taking back cuts and making us look terrible worldwide for a world they will in a country.

They will not inherit.

We have to inherit their bs.

We need to be.

Maga on the other side, So we need to have aoc Jasmin Crockett Moscowitz and so I mean like the other side.

Like what I mean by that is that Magag found these young people to roll through and get into positions.

Well that's the anomaly.

But everyone else, right Steven Miller hag said, these are younger people and they rolled into these positions.

Mtg Uh.

They all rolled into these positions that have gotten some words done.

We need to get the young blood back involved in the Democratic Party and in charge of it.

And maybe will lose an election, but we've lost in election many times before as they age into their roles, but then they'll be in powers.

I understand what you're saying, but I caution about saying we need to have an inverse maggot just for this reason and this reason alone.

One how many times have we seen the movie, whether it be like Dune or stuff in real life that you were attacked by the monster, but then you become it.

That's the last thing that needs to happen.

Well, I.

Know what you're saying.

I think the young blood thing is spot off.

But I'm not I'm not no, I'm not trying to find the inverse Marjorie Taylor Green.

That's actually not something that I think is like a good thing.

I think the young energy.

I think that people in general need to look at every politician individually and see what they actually stand for and what they actually do and hold them accountable and nothing otherwise.

So yeah, that's the way it should go.

I agree with you.

Is the guy in Texas, the young kid in Texas.

I like that kid that bring him into the forefront as well.

We need youthful energy in the DEMN Party and we need to be in motion on that.

The old bones need to roll on out of you, for it's a drastic world is over.

Get out of here, all right, let's uh let's move on from there.

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Jamb said it perfectly well.

I think roka means someone aggressive and doesn't give a fuck energy instead of these currents find list jellyfish, which.

Which is which is fair?

But the only thing is that they're so I don't give a that they do really dumb things.

That's the only reason I'm always very careful.

I think we need to have people be passionate, but I need people to use the proper judgment assessing these politicians instead of just automatically giving them thumbs up.

That's a fair point, totally fair.

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