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We are going to get into this drama here that is happening in our world of entertainment with the WB merger.

Netflix of course purchasing WB, but now Paramount this morning announcing that they're doing a hostile takeover a bit.

There were all kinds of things that were revealed in the SEC filing that's a little suspicious in terms of the people who are behind Paramount's bid.

Then you've got President Donald Trump coming out saying, listen, I haven't chosen a side on this.

Both of them have been bad to me, which I think is really funny.

And so now we're in this place where everyone thinks they know what's going on.

Everyone's pontificating.

All these high priced writers at these high priced sites are trying to tell you what they believe is going to happen and where it's going to all go.

But to be honest with you, I'll tell you what nobody fucking knows.

It certainly feels like it's going to be Netflix is, but then depending on the hour, sometimes even the minute, it feels like maybe Paramount is going to come through here and force everything to go down.

And I'm here to talk to you about the truth, which is to destroy those narratives you hear going on and try to give you some semblance of the truth.

Here with all the moving pieces and moving parts, and of course the truth tonight might not be the truth by tomorrow morning.

This is how fast this thing is moving nowadays, or the last few days rather with this story, and it's just insane to see how many moving parts on this.

Usually you go for something, you lose out, that's it.

You move on, You accept the l and go No, what we've got here is a lot of power players with a lot of money.

We're talking billions, tens of billions of dollars that are going to be funneled in to try to get Warner Brothers right.

Netflix for those you who don't know, maybe living under a rock for the last few days, but certainly Netflix has won.

Initially won the bid.

I think it was eighty two billion dollars.

I got my notes here, eighty two billion dollars of what they did here.

But there's much more that's gone on since that time, since they it's which seems like maybe a week ago, even though it was like forty eight hours ago.

Much more has gone on since that time to let us know where all of this is going to end up and where this all might be going.

It's a little insane to see how it's all playing out.

To be honest with you and where it's going to lead us to.

I will absolutely do my best to guess all of that as well.

So we're gonna get into that now.

I just want to let you know.

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We'll talk some Sydney Sweeney stuff and that apology.

We'll talk about Kelsey Grammer and the nonsense that dribble out of his mouth yesterday, and we'll talk about the Kennedy Center.

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All right, all of that should but it's been a busy day today, so I'm a little bit flying by the seat of my pants.

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So all right, So that's what we're gonna get into here today.

And as I said, anything you guys want to talk about, anything you guys want to get into, any subjects you want me to cover, I'm sure you send in your stream lab super chats.

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And if I have to look it up, I will look it up and we'll talk about it for sure.

But the first thing we should definitely talk about, let's get into it right off the bat, is what I alluded to here, the madness that is going on in Hollywood right now with the WB merger.

And that's those three gentlemen right there.

You see the power players in this whole equation there with David Saslov right there in the middle of Ted Sarados on the right and David Nelson on the left there, and you see that these are the guys that are moving around and the moving pieces to make this all happen.

And when last we left, just to give you a little bit of a background before we get too deep into the stuff.

When last we left this particular equation, Netflix was had absolutely won this thing.

Warner Brothers had announced they won this thing was like eighty two billion dollars, as I said, and they were ready to go seventy two billion, with about ten billion dollars that they were ready to go into this business.

But now what we've found out today is that Paramount has long a hostile takeover bid.

They are going to look at who, look at how much, look at the thirty dollars per share plan that they had already submitted before.

They are going in that direction.

They are going to they are going to value Warner Brothers Discovery at one hundred and eight billion dollars as they seek to derail Netflix's deal.

Paramount has offered.

Paramount's offer includes twenty four billion from Saudi Arabia, that's the PIF Fund from Prince Muhammed Bensilam Guitar and Abu Dhabi Wealth funds.

Ten Cent had been involved, which is a Chinese company, but ten Cent removed themselves.

Now a lot of people are like ten Cents no longer part of the equation.

Let me tell you something.

Let's deal with the reality, all right, the stuff living in fantasy land and candy land.

The reality of things are when this kind of money is involved, and when certain companies who have a reputation some would say nefarious, some would say suspicious, some would say honorable.

They have a reputation of doing business in a certain way where they kind of play with the rules and play with loopholes.

Just because they've removed themselves from themselves from the people who are part of the bid, it does not mean that their money won't find their way through loopholes or through shell companies or through LLCs to be a part of this whole situation.

And so I think that's something you guys have to keep into account when we look at this thing and when we look at what's going on with this particular deal.

But yes, it is thirty dollars a share that they are allegedly offering at this point, and they announced it this morning.

And the deal itself, though, which is really interesting is it's the same terms that were offered in a December fourth bid submitted to the Warner Brothers Discovery Board, the proposed transactions for the entirety of Warner Brothers Discovery, So Discovery not just the films and the IP involved with the film and the theatrical side of things, but also on the TV side with CNN, TBS, T and T and other networks.

Of course we know TNT with NBA basketball.

A lot of people chiming in know that.

We also know AEW is involved, a pro wrestling organization is involved with all of these things that have been going on because we know that AW does their pay per buws on HBO Max, So how much is that involved with this whole thing?

ONTs WB gets bought?

And if it's actually paramount, what are they going to do when they've got when they've got to AW, what's going to happen with that if they actually get it?

Or is Netflix going to get a But Netflix doesn't want the TV side of things, So Netflix is not going to have a conflict between WWE and AW because they have WWE, they don't have a AEW.

But I doubt they put them all under the same umbrella, because it's very clear that they're waiting for the split to happen, which is I think in April of twenty twenty six.

The TV side is going to be one thing, the movie side is another thing, and certainly Netflix is interested in the movie side, but Paramount wants it all.

And this is something that's really curious when you look at it.

They're taking their directly to WBD shareholders, and according to Paramount, it's an all cash offer that equates to an enterprise value of one hundred and eight point four billion dollars including the assumption of debt, with an equity value of seventy seven point nine billion.

Now I'm like you, guys, I hear those numbers and my eyes glaze over and I just start to fall backwards in my chair and pass out because that is so much money, And you wonder where are they gonna get this money?

How do they get this money?

Well, this is going to be an interesting thing as we go deeper into this story here.

But in contrast, the Netflix proposal entails a quote volatile and complex structure.

That's what they claiming valued at twenty seven point seventy five share in a mix of cash and stock subject to caller and the future performance of Netflix, equating to an enterprise value of eighty two point seven billion dollars.

That's how we got there, which excludes the TV business, and that's what Paramount said.

Paramount's decorating it this way.

Paramount is portraying the Netflix that bid this way volatile in all of that, Paramount said it's deals offer for WBD would close within twelve months, compared with Netflix's projected twelve to eighteen months for completing its DEALWBD is required by law to inform shareholders within ten business days whether it will accept or reject Paramounts Guide ounces thirty dollars a share offer.

Paramount's tender offer, which was approved unanimously by its board, is scheduled to expire at five pm ET on January eighth of twenty twenty six, unless the offer is extended.

Paramount David Ellison, you know, came out and NEPO baby.

David Elison came out and said our proposal is superior to Netflix in every dimension, he said on a call with analysts and investors this morning.

This morning, Paramount strategically and financially compelling offer to WBD shareholders provides a superior alternative to the Netflix transaction, which offers inferior and uncertain value and exposes WBD shareholders to a protracted, multi jurisdictional regulatory clearance process with an uncertain outcome along with a complex and volatile there's that word again, mix of equity and cash.

They now the Paramount's thirty dollars share offer is backed by forty point seven billion dollars in capital from David's daddy there, Larry Ellison.

Over to Oracle who was the co founder there, and Redbird Capital Partners, both of which put in money for sky Dance Media's eight billion dollar acquisition of Paramount Global.

How's that eight billion for Paramount eighty for a parentright, eight one hundred and eight billion dollars for WB.

That tells you the value of both of those companies at the time when this whole, when these bids are coming through.

Now, who is behind this bid besides the forty point seven billion from David's daddy there, Larry Ellison, Well, you've got yourselves the sovereign wealth funds of Saudi Arabia, Cutter and Abu Dhabi, as well as Affinity Partners, the investment company formed by who Jared Kushner.

Now, who's Jared Kushner.

Well, he's the president's son in law.

Listens, it's curier and curier, sir.

As you go drilling down in the details of these deals on both sides now already, and you've got the wealth funds from Sarady Arabia that is run by people who are accused of murdering Washington Post journalist Jamal Kashogi in a pretty brutal way.

You know.

Trump dismissed it in such a callous, in an offensive way a couple of weeks ago when he was in the White House with the Prince there, the Saudi prince, and it is such an interesting situation to have them involved with this.

Then you've got Jared Kushner, who had got two billion dollars from Saudi, remember remember that deal.

And then you've got Cutter and Abu Dhabi.

I don't know what their whole part in all of this in terms of their money and what they're expecting with all of this.

Now.

Paramount's offered for WBD as of December first included an aggregate twenty four billion in financing from the Middle Eastern funds that I just laid out.

Bridy had previously reported that the three funds were part of the latest bid.

Paramount also said as WBD bid will be financed in part by fifty four billion dollars in met commitment commitments from Bank of America City in Apollo Global Management.

Now let's let you know about something.

When this press release was issued this morning from Paramount, they did not have the Saudi Arabian money, They did not have the Abu Dhabi money, the Katar money.

They didn't list ten Cent because ten Cent was moved as the Chinese company moved two days ago.

But they only listed Bank of America City at Apollo and Redbird and Oracle.

So it's real interesting that they waited for the SE filing to come out before we found out, or that they refused.

They didn't name the Middle Eastern money, but the SEC filing is the thing that revealed the Middle Eastern money.

It was behind us.

Now, some of you have talked about the ten Cent situation that I posted about here, and you have to look at what is what's involved here with all of this.

I'm gonna read my tweet out here for the people supporting paramount getting WB this is who you are getting in bed with.

Just so we're all clear.

And on the same page, the US Department Defense added ten Cent to a list of Chinese military companies in twenty twenty five, alleging it collects data for the Chinese military and supports its quote military civil fusion strategy.

That is chilling.

That is very chilling to read that they were even involved at any stage of this process is an unsettling and chilling thing to read when we are so aware and afraid of military presence in our cities.

We're seeing what happened with the National Guard and sadly that one young lady was killed murdered as a National guardsman there in DC and the young man was sent to the hospital for those attacks.

You know, unnecessary appearance by our military in all of these cities.

And so here you have a people behind Paramount who are involved in this kind of energy.

Here the Chinese military companies in twenty twenty five that collects data, collects data for the Chinese military.

Isn't that the TikTok thing everyone's complaining about the TikTok collects American data, But here we are people are supporting this situation.

And so you could say, all they removed themselves two days ago, who gives a shit.

The fact that they were part of it from the beginning is super unsettling.

And if you really think, I believe, or a lot of people are stupid enough to believe that just because they remove themselves, they wouldn't find a way to still have their money be a part of this, because I guarantee you they weren't tossing five dollars into this.

It was quite a lot of money they're probably putting into this.

They'll find another way to get their money in there, because they clearly want to make inroads with Paramount, with Warner Brothers on that side of things.

Now, China is a big market.

I don't fault Chinese companies wanted to be involved in this situation because you know, China has made a lot of money globally, or they've made a lot of money with their movies.

We've made a lot of money Americans have with movies going over to China.

So we know that China is like the second biggest, well, I guess maybe it's the third biggest.

India might be there, so it's probably India China the United States are the big markets for movies.

So I'm not faulting in Chinese company being involved.

It's just that this company has a lot of nefarious shit behind it that's unsettling.

Then you get, as I said, twenty four billion from Saudi Arabia's public investment fund and Kushna who took two billions.

So these are the people that are involved in all of this, not to mention the Allison's being massive MAGA people.

And we see what Barri Weiss is doing over at CBS, and you go, that's the test case for what might be happening here if Paramount gets all of w B.

Now I see some of the some of my colleagues, so I respect it and admire some I actually love that's a really weird thing, but yes, but I see some of them saying things like, well, I don't you know, I just want people to work, and I want creatives to be able to get their shot at doing these things.

There's a bigger picture here.

There's a bigger picture here.

And I see some of you say that as well.

And I know I'm not faulting anybody for that.

You believe what you want to believe.

But there's a bigger picture here that I think people need to be aware of, and that it's a little more dangerous than you think.

Like Netflix, Okay, fine, they want to close the theatrical windows a little bit, they want to put movies in theaters for only a little bit of time.

I understand that that's I'm sure a lot of people upset about that.

We'll address that in a little bit.

I'm sure that people don't like that, and I totally get that, right.

But I think Netflix has at least has at least more of an entertainment point of view here than say, the people who are behind this Paramount bid.

This is unsettling the sea.

The kind of nefarious characters with really questionable ethics and moralities and morality and principles were involved behind this bid for WB and so.

And I see other people online, certainly people like from the CNBC from other places.

I went back and forth with someone from CNBC earlier today, like they're all just saying, like, oh, paramount, Paramount, it's a done deal.

It's a shoe in, don't worry about it.

Well, Trump came out today and said that he has not chosen aside in all of this.

Where's that?

Where's that article?

I want to make sure, Yeah, Donald Trump was it rails against this?

There is a Okay, there's another one.

I don't know where.

I guess I must have not put that link up here to take a look at it.

But let me see if I can find that, because I want to read what he said here about the situation and be accurate.

Okay from the New York Times.

So just to give a little background as we lead into this, Ted Serendus, the co chief executive in Netflix, made a stealthy visit to the Oval Office in November, chatting with President Trump as his company prepared an audacious bid to buy Warner Brothers and HBO.

It went well enough that mister Trump was soon praising mister Sarandos as quote fantastic and comparing him to the legendary Hollywood mogul Louis B.

Mayer.

On Sunday night, David Ellison, the chairman of Paramount, which is biding against Netflix, had his chance to make his case face to face because Ellison was spotted in the Protestant in the presidential box with mister Trump at the Kennedy Center Honors ceremony in Washington.

Hours later, Ellison unveil the hostile bid which I just told you about to block Netflix's acquisition.

The presidents are not supposed to influence the regulars who review major corporate deals, but we know that the president and Trump said this last night that he is going to decide who gets w B like he literally made it about himself, as he does with everything, but with the future of the he was entertainment in industries in the balance.

Mister Trump, himself, a film and TV connoisseur, has broken precedent by placing himself directly in the middle of the sale here by saying, quote, I'll be involved in that decision.

That's what he said on the red carpet at the Kennedy Center Honors, which ignores the norms that usually go about here with this situation.

And he said.

This is what he said about Paramount and what he said about Netflix when it came to the WB.

This actual quote from last night or today actually Monday today.

He said, none of them are particularly great friends of mine, either either Paramounts or Netflix.

I want to do what's right.

It's very important to do what's right.

And mister Sarahda's caution that a Netflix win the president lavish praise on mister Saradas, but also caution that a Netflix win could quote be a problem.

But then, of course this morning Trump also went after Paramount because it's the parent company of CBS for sixty minutes, platforming Marjorie Taylor Green to complain about Donald Trump, to accuse a lot of Republicans who support Trump as people who talk shit about Trump behind his back and only where the maga hat and kiss his ring in order to stay in power as politicians, as representatives or senators.

MTG said all of that, said the quiet part out loud, revealed all of that there on sixty minutes, and now Trump has pissed at Paramount and even tweeted out on truth Social since they bought sixty minutes, it's actually gotten worse, he added in a post here.

And he accused that the accused the old the current CBS ownership as being of being as bad as the old CBS ownership.

So you've got that going so to me, there's a lot of this madness that's going on here because you have two very important, serious and powerful men in Ted Sarando's David Allison who are trying to make this happen, and of course Larry Elison behind David as well as part of this.

And they've got to play to the whims of a guy who accepts phony, fake pals and FIFA ceremonies without without the FIFA bored approval or fake crowns when he goes over seats like this is the kind of thing that is maddening about all of it is that you can't even be serious about it because you've got to play to the ego of a president who turns on a whim.

And what you saw recently Trump welcoming Mamdanni to the White House, he basically threw Cuomo, Andrew Cuomo and Elisa Stevennik under the bus, who had been saying that Mamdanni is going to be essentially a despot, a dictator, ruler, and a support of domestic terrorism.

They said all of that stuff or inferred all of that stuff in their commentary about Mamdani.

And here he is, Trump is meeting with him, and he's almost like in all of him, like he's almost like a giddy child.

If you watch those videos, regardless of what Maggie is trying to paint that.

We saw it with Arna.

It's what he was doing.

He's little smiling like he was in a whole other place with Mamdani.

Right.

Why is that?

Well, I'll tell you because a lot of people say said this through the years, I've come to believe it even more so now, and that is Trump loves a winner.

He doesn't give a fuck if you believe in his ideology.

He doesn't give fuck if you support him.

He likes a winner, and a winner who comes to the White House, a winner who goes and visits him.

That's the kind of winner he likes.

The fact that Ted Sarandos went to see him in November and understood, look, we're going to make a serious bit about this, I think that's amazing.

That is such a smart move to try to play to the ego of this president who needs his ego to be played to in order to get his approval.

So paramount pushing this narrative that they've got a slam dunk and they'll get it done in twelve months I think is actually wishful thinking.

Because Trump has made very clear here today, and listen, you take everything Trump says with a grain of salt.

But we're going with what he says here is that he's not a particular friend to either one and so, and he goes because Netflix had you know, they work with the Obamas, and you know Trump hates the Obamas, and they work with the Obama.

But Netflix also has the WWE Netflix which is gone very red state Triple h was at the White House acting a fool and blowing water out of his mouth to support everybody through allegedly took steroids about making America healthy again.

And then on the other and then they also have to kill Tony programs on Netflix, and those comics were supporting Trump.

You know, Tony Hinchcliffe like was at that crazy rally at MSG saying all those horrible things about Puerto Ricans, and so you see that he's there's a red state angle to Netflix.

So this idea that Netflix is like I saw people say Wope, Flix morons and saying all that kind of stuff because they have no idea what's actually on Netflix program there's a lot of red state content on Netflix programming if you do the research and go in there.

But there's also a lot of diversity in Netflix, and that's one of the reasons that I am in support of the Netflix situation.

Now, I get it.

The theatrical windows stuff is certainly troubling, and certainly today Ted Sarados came out to address that and said they are going to adhere to the Warner Brothers model of releasing movies the theaters and honoring those theatrical windows.

He said that now, he said yesterday that theatrical windows are evolving.

Right, He's in support of theatrical movies.

And I think that's not a bad thing.

And by that, I mean, if a movie's not performing, why are you forcing it to stay in the movie theaters.

It doesn't make sense, But you can get more attention for the movie moving it to streaming three weeks after it comes out.

If nobody's going to go see it, like Run the Running Man.

If The Running Man was tanking like dog shit after two weeks, why would you persist to keep that in three thousand theaters and pay to keep it in three thousand theaters and essentially take it as a loss.

Why not move it over to the streaming service, have it out there within and people will watch it in the hundreds and millions.

Right now, I know, I get it.

For some of you who are creators or the people who love creators, it's like, well they're short changed, that are residuals or short I get that, and that's what the I think that's the next hurdle is for creatives to go and work with Netflix.

They're going to have to work out deals that are favorable to what they want to do, favorable to what they want to create, and favorable enough to inspire them to create great art on Netflix.

And I saw some people shitting on Netflix, and they're absolute dopes.

There's a lot of great TV shows and great movies that have been on Netflix that rival any service, and the rival almost any studio that you're talking about.

And remember, fifteen years ago, we were getting these fucking discs in sleeves.

The fact that they have progressed to this point is absolutely stunning and should be respected.

Also, Ted Sarahus comes from a blue collar background.

His dad was an electrician, his mom was a homemade This isn't a guy like Ellison who has handed money, or like Trump who has handed money to start his life and spoiled.

This is the guy who worked his way up so he understands the value here and he understands what the people want.

And that's what the greatest thing is about Ted, and that's why he's been able to succeeed so quickly, is that he understands the public statetes.

Some people have their finger on the pulse.

You could argue Trump has this gift.

I mean, I think there's no way he would have got elected twice and lost to Biden, you know, by a few million if he didn't have his finger on the pulse of what people want.

And he may not be the people we necessary, it may not be the things that we want, it may not the things that we like, but certainly he was able to capture enough of the of the mainstream to get him into office twice.

And so you look at that with Ted.

Sarahis Ted Saraus is also a populist.

He's also a man of the people.

He understands like, hey, listen, I get it.

People don't want to go to movie theaters anymore.

And they're not and I'm not talking about somebody who love the seventy millimeters in the IMAX and there's nothing that replaces a movie theater.

You're one hundred percent right.

I'm never gonna say you're wrong on that because I agree with you.

I'm in that camp with you.

However, I'm also in the camp of reality.

I'm also in the camp of business, and that is, if you look at the situation here, theaters have been failing because people aren't going in large numbers anymore because it's too expensive to go.

And some of you go they should just get AMC A List or they should get Regal similar.

Well, not everybody can do that, Not everybody can afford to do that, right, are you gonna get it for your whole family?

So then it's another expense every month that you're paying one hundred and to say you have a five, five people family, right, I can't remember how if there's family discounts order, but like that's probably one hundred dollars a month to do that every month.

There's another expense you're adding on top of what's going on in your in your world.

Right with AMC A List or Regal, and it's it's great of them to offer those kinds of things.

I'm on the Regal one, although I feel like the AMC List, sorry, AMC A List is better, but I don't.

I don't.

I don't like the AMC there where I live, So I don't have that one.

I prefer the Regal much more, so I keep with that one.

But that's the situation you see going on here, and so less and less people are going so ted.

Sarah is looking at it and saying, well, we get to evolve the theatrical window.

It doesn't mean that a movie's gonna come out.

He's gonna be let's spend three weeks.

Fuck you.

I know it's making one hundred million dollars a week, but screw it, we're moving it right to Apple or right to Netflix.

That's not what I think he's proposing.

But I think he's proposing in saying that evolving is that it's a case by case basis.

We saw that recently with F one with Apple TV.

Apple TV put a streaming a movie that they made for their streaming service out into the theaters just like they would Napoleon.

Napoleon crashed and burned, and they moved that immediately out of the theaters and onto streaming a couple weeks or a few weeks later.

Right F one was able to stay out longer in the theaters because it was making money.

And so Apple saw the logic, the financial logic in leaving it out there.

I think Netflix will do the same thing.

I think Netflix will see, Okay, what do we got here?

Where are we going to go with this?

How much is it making?

Oh, it's making sixty million dollars or eight one hundred million dollars this week, or eighty million dollars, even forty million dollars this week.

All right, we'll keep it in the FETA a long.

Oh it's making thirty Okay, we'll keep it in the theater longer.

And then there's a threshold where it's like, okay, now it's not making that much, we can move it to streaming.

Warner Brothers just did that with Superman.

Superman was still in the theaters but was also an HBO Max and people were saying, like, why would you do this?

This makes no sense.

So what happened?

The numbers kept still kept a segment for Superman.

They did not drop considerably, and people got to enjoy it at home as well.

So this is where we're going.

And I get it.

I know creatives are gonna get crunched.

I know it's a shitty situation for creatives right now, But to persist in some desire to hold a gun to the head of movie theaters and to the head of movie studios.

To put movies out in theaters where people stop going for that movie after the second or third week doesn't make any sense.

Why would you keep putting a movie out there for five people to show up on a Tuesday at four o'clock.

It doesn't make sense, right, not anymore, not with the kind of money that theaters are charging for movies to be screened in their places.

And so to me, I think, and how can I say, a case by case evolving release window depending on the movie makes sense.

If they get WB of course they're gonna put out The Batman right or they're gonna put up Man of Tomorrow.

But they're not gonna be like, Okay, it's three weeks, toss it in the HBO Max.

It'll be much like what you saw with Apple, where they'll let it run for a few months and then they will wait a month and a halfter two months before they put it out on streaming.

I think that's actually what they're going to do now with the smaller, the independent, the medium level, the mid level, the smaller films.

I think absolutely a lot of those are going to go to streaming because most people are gonna want to sit home to watch it.

You know, I had a debate last night on my on my Patreon stream, which, by the way, you can join at patreon dot com.

Sized John Rouca and I do it.

I hang out with them every Sunday night from five to seven, usually five to six thirty, but it usually bleeds over in seven.

And we were getting into a big debate about whether the audience over the last few years has been trained to go to wait for movies to appear on streaming.

Well, I reject the term train and I said this in our debate back and forth, because training implies a loss of a loss of will, like you don't have self determination, and that is you're somehow removed from making a choice.

That's not what happened.

What happened was Covid and I said this on Movie Talks and on Collider Mailbags, that Collider has taken all of almost everything that I've ever hosted.

They've taken off their service because you know, Frosty's got a bug up his ass about me, and so so be it.

So I can't prove it, but I certainly said it before I know, I said it before, and somebody who watched those mail bags remember and movie talks remember me saying that they were going to that the audiences were dwindling.

More and more people were going to the movie theaters less and less.

There were a lot of studies that were done there in twenty eighteen twenty nineteen about the lack of attendance for moviegoers, for movie theaters rather by moviegoers, and COVID came along and just accelerated what was going to happen was already going to happen, and that is that the public more and more wants to stay home.

And let's be honest.

I come from a time where I watched classic movies on television, great movies on television before I ever watched them in the theaters.

I saw The Godfather on a twenty seven inch television, all right.

I saw Lawrence of Arabia on a black and white twenty inch television in the upstairs bedroom my parents' house when I was fifteen years old, Like this is was poor.

I couldn't afford a color TV at that time, and so I've seen so many films on TV when we were renting VHS's in blu rays or sorry, DVDs and VHS's.

We were watching great movies at home on shitty televisions, not even oled flat screen seventy seven inch, which is what I have now in the living room.

We weren't even having that access to that.

We were seeing it on the boob tube, right, those type of televisions.

And we saw them in four x three.

We saw We didn't see them in sixty by nine.

We saw them in four x three, you know, Adam Laback, correct me if that's the actual But we were able to see those movies and still appreciate their greatness.

So this idea that so many people have nowadays, and especially the younger critics who are like, no, the movie theater experience, it's not like watching it at home.

Actually, for a lot of the medium level and smaller independent films, it is okay to like watching at home, and it is okay to watch it at home because the stereo systems, the TVs themselves, they've gotten so much better.

You can really appreciate four K versions of these movies that they have available on digital to watch at home.

We're on four K.

You can buy the four K.

It's extraordinary.

If you've got a good television LGOL, it's some great deals on them.

On Black Friday, you will see an amazing experience at home and you can home theater systems have been around for so long, they're just now much more affordable for regular people to buy and have, and so you can see those movies at home.

And that's why people are staying home.

They weren't trained.

They want this, and Ted Sarahus knows this, which is why Netflix has blown up and becomes such a massive force in the world because they Ted knew this is what the public, with the public were telling him, this is what we want.

If the public was like, no, we're not going to see this shit until you put it in a theater, then studios would have adapted and be like, no, we need to extend theatrical windows because people want to see this in a theater.

But human beings, but sorry.

But the public nowadays does not.

They're quite happy to stay home.

They want to stay home.

They don't want to pay that much to the deal with the traffic, deal with the parking, and deal with the assholes who go to movie theaters now, especially the young people sometimes who are talking through the whole movie.

They act like they're sitting in their living room with their feet up on the fucking chairs, chomping loudly, talking to themselves, taking selfies, playing on their games, sometimes with the sound on during a movie.

You see that happen with young people.

I've been in a theater where young people were running from one set of seats to another in some stupid fucking game they made up in their hands.

And so you see that, and people don't want to experience that anymore, because the joy of going to a movie theater gets lost.

If you get one asshole or a bunch of assholes in there, you just lose, You lose the experience, you know.

And so I think that's the thing that's happening more and more is people are wanting to stay home.

And I see some people online, of course, lamenting the loss of the communal experience.

There is nothing you can do to make that come back anymore.

Nothing they're not people have.

People like being home, People like the comfort of being home.

Are there still extroverts who want to run out and be surrounded by everybody and experience things in a visceral way, in a crowd and in a game and at a concert or at a movie theater.

One hundred percent.

Of course you all are allowed to do that.

But I think to persist in some stubborn, obstinate way that somehow it's all these outside forces that are convincing people to stay home.

You're out of your mind.

People do what they want to do.

This is America.

People have free will.

And if they want to stay home to watch a TV show or a movie, guess what.

They're gonna fucking stay home to watch a TV show or a movie.

And then it'll give a shit that you're out here yelling at them to go to a movie theater.

They're not gonna go.

They don't want to go.

It doesn't mean that the movie theaters should go away and see some people going.

Some people said to me last few is like, you're you're advocating for the death of movie theaters.

No, I'm not.

I'm advocating for the truth, for people to accept the truth and that movie pattern movie going patterns are changing.

And to persist in this obstinate, stubbornness that they're to be like la la la la la la la la.

You're you're you're just hurting yourself.

You know what, I'm saying.

And so what I said on those movie talks, what I said on those mailbags, is that eventually the movie going experience will be more expensive because it'll be like Broadway to go see a play, you got to pay one hundred and fifty bucks.

Why because you're getting stars who are gonna come out on stage or perform for you live.

And you're there in the in the in the theater watching a live having a communal experience, watching these great stars.

And so I think what I had said back in twenty nineteenenty eighteen was that theaters were going to have to offer better options from the see movies, higher end options.

So like at the time the ipick was a big deal in Pasadena, and at the time that was reclined leather recliner chairs.

They brought you a blanket, they brought you food sometimes it was amazing.

And so that kind of experience is now much more common in some of the cities around the country and around the world, probably in experiencing movies.

So that's another way to elevate the experience.

IMAX, elevate the experience seventy millimeters, elevate the experience this division, elevate the experience, right.

I even went to c F one at a screening at I think Westfield UTC here in San Diego.

They had seat warmers.

I could warm my back or air condition my back while I watched the movie.

Now that I'll fucking pay extra for.

And so I think that's what's going to happen, is that more and more it's going to be the event films that are at the theaters and the smaller, more independent films.

They might get a one or two week or even a three week run depending on their box office, but then they're gonna go right to streaming for people to enjoy and watch.

And yes, it means that creatives are gonna get crunch.

They're gonna make less money.

The residuals aren't gonna be there.

Netflork is gonna pay up front, or paramoun' is gonna pay up front, or WB is gonna pay up front, And that's unfortunately for creators the way it's going.

But what are you gonna do?

Are you gonna force the public to do this?

And I see people say, oh, you can retrain them to wait for the movie.

No they won't.

There's a million fucking things for people to watch today from a million fucking channels.

The last thing they're gonna be like is, oh, I can't see that, well at studio, please show it in the movies.

I'm not gonna do that.

They're gonna move on to the next content.

They're gonna move on to the next thing.

There's so much great content from all these streaming services that are out there that of high quality, with great actors in them.

I'm in great directors behind them, that it's not a it's not a viable plan to all of a sudden studios go end mass, which is, by the way, collusion to be like, well, we're not going to show these movies.

We're not gonna put them on streaming for six months.

You've got to come to the theater.

Suck it.

Guess what people are gonna call them.

People were like, fuck, y'all wait out six months.

What's six months?

I'll watch other shit for six months until that movie comes out.

That's what's going to happen.

And then you'll lose money in the movie theaters.

Anyway, And again I'm not saying movie theaters should go away.

I don't think they should go away.

I love going to a movie theater.

It's amazing.

Still one of the greatest nights in my life.

For days of my life have been in a movie theater with people.

But I also understand the reality and that things are changing and that there will be less movie theaters because there's less demand for them.

We are a capitalist society.

We are a supply and demand society.

If the demand decreases, the supply is going to decrease.

That's how it works.

So unless and I see some people who get upset that tech bros and the CEOs of these companies, They're not the only ones involved in this.

It's also movie going audiences.

And you know, I've been writing some of these movie going audiences a little hard the last few months because people need to take responsibility.

People need to see what's going on out there and stop thinking that they are untouchable in their approach to movies and they don't ever insult the moviegoers or don't ever call out the movie goers.

Fuck off, man.

We're all able to be called out, just like those CEOs and those executives are going to be called out, so so are moviegoers.

Right, And if moviegoers aren't going, then they're not going to keep putting movies in movie theaters.

That's just how it works.

If a team keeps being shitty every year and people stop showing up, that team is going to move or sell to a new owner that's going to try to revive its fortunes.

But if it doesn't, they're going to move.

You know, that happened.

That's happened with a number of teams over the years, and a numbrous numerous sports leagues.

And so that's the thing at the end of the day, right, what happened with Zack Snyder's situation.

Zack Snyder did the movies, didn't make the money the WB was hoping they were going to make, and they move Snyder out.

If you don't make money, people are going to move you out.

That's the game.

And so when I look at all of this, my heart breaks for the creatives who are out there trying to pursue their dreams to be filmmakers and all of that.

But some people have gone on this thing of like, well, you're removing the ability of creators to create.

No, if you really want to be a creator, you'll figure it the fuck out.

And by that I mean you'll figure out where to put your stuff.

You'll figure out how to put it in your stuff.

It's supposed to be difficult, it's supposed to be hard.

It's not supposed to be doors open.

Come on in and do everything you want to do.

No, you got to earn.

In my opinion, you got to earn your spots.

You got to take the lips loops, you got to take the hits to get to where you want to get to.

And yes, some people will make it and some people don't.

I didn't have the strength to keep doing it as an actor.

It was after twenty years of not being able to accomplish things I wanted to accomplish.

I realized it wasn't for me.

I saw myself up on the screen in a movie and I was like, you know what, maybe I don't belong there anymore, and I'm okay, let's figure out what I'm gonna do next.

It actually was peaceful for me.

Not not saying people need to give up, but I'm just saying you all have a right to pursue what you want to pursue, but to think all the doors should be open for you and you shouldn't have to struggle to achieve it.

You're out of your mind, and look, some of you won't.

Some of you will find the right mixture of luck and talent and you'll get through that door.

But most people will have to struggle and suffer.

And look at Ria Seahorn, who has been acting since the nineteen eighties or early nineties, I think, and she now just now from breaking from a Bettercallsault and Pluribus.

She has now becoming a household name.

Got nominated for a Golden Global Critics Choice, I think it was.

But that's how it goes, you know.

And so my heart breaks for the creatives that are going to lose out on our sidiers, lose out on money.

My heart breaks for the unions.

And I saw the Teamsters union came out today to try to log their protest about the merger with WB and Netflix, and I totally respect that people are gonna lose jobs, people a gonna lose money.

I get it.

Even though Warner Brothers is saying that they're not going to lay off anywhere near the number sorry, Netflix is saying that they're not going to lay off near the number of Warner Brothers employees.

That paramount will who can say?

Who knows how it's all going to go down.

But I know that there's going to be consequences to the situation.

But the situation is not is unstoppable.

What are you going to force Warner Brothers to be independent and sit there like, no, make your movies, no make your TV shows.

It's America, man.

If they want to sell, they should be allowed to sell, as simple as that.

I get the anti trust lawsuits.

I get Elizabeth Warren who now played both sides because she came out against Paramount getting WB today after coming out against Netflix the day before, which is or on Friday, which is what Jeff and I said on the hot mic that she was or on Thursday.

I guess, I said, Jeff and I said on the hot mic that she was going to play both.

So, oh no, it was it Monday?

No, No, was it?

It was Friday?

Friday?

Sorry, Friday because we did that emergency episode.

And so you know, that's the thing that you see happening now and it's going to be And it's not bipartisan.

Christian said that this morning.

I respect Christon of course greatly, but it's not bipartisan that like it's bipartisan against definitely skintning WB.

No, it's bipartisan all around.

The only really bipartisan thing is that a majority of the people, whether Republicans or Democrats, don't want w B to sell.

That's the one thing that is actually bipartisan support is they don't want WB to sell.

But in the end, Zazov was brought in to sell WB.

And it was David Allison who launched this audacious bid thinking that instead of taking his time like a guy you know who can't seem to keep it in his pants, he had to go, I gotta get Paramount.

I'm not gonna read to Warn Brothers.

Instead of let's let's sit for a little bit of Paramount, Let's build up Paramount and let's see who we got.

No, there was the opportunity to go get Warner Brothers and CNN, and we can push our mag ideology on CNN.

We could, we could skew the movies to push our mag ideology in their characters and in their storylines and all of that.

And that's what to me, I think that is what is one of the reasons behind their desire to buy all of it, is they want to control Hollywood and push the right wing red state message through the content that they're gonna pump out.

That's what I think is a massive part of this whole situation.

Whereas Netflix is a bit more in the middle, having Red State and Blue State on it next day red Netflix has some of the most diverse content.

They don't bow to the people who are anti woke.

They tell them to fuck off, and they do what they want to do uh with their content, and they make it as diverse as they want to make it.

Gay shows, Warren shows, shows from countries where Americans are supposed to not like stuff from those countries.

Those are all here on Netflix.

There is so much to see movie wise or TV wise from all over the world, and there's a lot of diversity.

Spanish shows, oh the sorry, Latina led shows, black lead shows, white led shows, women led shows, women of color led shows, men of color led shows.

There are all kinds of shows like that all over Netflix.

But there's also Red state content.

So when David Ellison is out there at CNBC this morning going like, we're here for the middle, we want to talk to the seventy percent of the middle people, you're lying through your teeth.

Man.

We know you're a maga guy, we know you want to go to the red state route.

We know that's why you want CNN to control the narrative, just like Barie Weiss is doing at CBS, which is disgusting in corrupt a spot.

We know that's what you want to do.

So don't come out here and try to tell us that you're trying to take care of the middle.

Netflix is the middle.

Paramount is Paramount under Ellison is not the middle, you know, Cee.

CBS is not the middle.

What they're doing is not the middle.

And so this the thing where you see what's going on, you know, hosting a town hall with the wife of the sadly assassinated Charlie Kirk, that's not the middle.

That's definitely leaning towards the red maga, playing to that base.

And so this is where the difference lies.

And that's why I'm going That's why I support Netflix getting WB.

If anyone's going to get w B right, I support Netflix getting WB.

I don't think Universal.

I think Universal would fumble the ball.

That's why don I'm not behind the Comcast situation.

But Netflix makes more sense, you know, and I think I think people need to give it a shot, and I think people need to be patient to see what they do, because so many people think they know what Ted Sarah is going to do based on past comments.

The man is running a business that supports that promotes streaming.

What is he going to say, like, oh, yeah, I know we do streaming content, but I wish we did movies.

Movies are great, you know, and don't come subscribe to us go see movies.

That's not what he's gonna fucking do.

His job is to promote Netflix and promote streaming, and promote people subscribe to Netflix by saying it's a better experience than going to movies, by saying that certain movies if they showed on Netflix would be just as big as they were in the theaters.

That's all talk, business talk to get people to sign up to Netflix.

He doesn't really believe some of the stuff he says.

This is all just stuff he's saying to get people to subscribe to Netflix.

That's his job as the CEO of Netflix.

He's not gonna say, well, you know, it's cool to see movies on my service, but no, you should really go to the movie theaters.

Like he's not gonna do that.

That doesn't make sense business wise, and I'm sure the board, and the people who support Netflix in terms of the money they put into Netflix would not appreciate him promoting something else other than Netflix that people could spend their money on.

You know, that's business.

And so I see people like taking his comments and going like fuck this guy, and it's like, that's his job.

You know, it's no different just like some of you influencers who are out there, like you're promoting certain things because you've been paid to promote certain things.

You may not actually believe three quarters of the shit you're saying, but that check cleared, so you gotta say.

It's no difference, you know.

So I think that's the situation that people don't seem to understand about Netflix.

He's saying these things because that was his job to say those things, and now he's saying different things because he wants to he wants this sale to go through with WB and he's saying, I'm going to keep movies in theaters.

I'm going to have theatrical windows, and people like, I don't believe hi because the Stubby said in the past, well Stuffy said in the past was to support the fact that he was in charge of a streaming service and wanted to get as many people as possible to subscribe, and guess what, it fucking worked.

They are a kaiju in the streaming business compared to all these little sons of Godzilla's that are hanging out on Monster Island that don't compare it to Netflix.

So you're gonna argue with his tactics, You're gonna argue with his ideology, You're gonna argue with his approach to things when he's been this successful.

Doesn't make sense.

Doesn't make sense to me.

All right, I think I've been talking for a whole hour.

Uh, thank you everybody who's who's been in here dealing with me talking for a while, will get two hundred of people if you all hang it out with us.

Go like says, what do is it?

So messers a hun come?

South Park is a lot on Paramount, though, I'll tell you why, because they make millions of dollars for Paramount, So Paramount plugs their nose and does the deal with them.

That's why.

Uh.

And if south Park started losing numbers or started losing money, I guarantee you Paramount would ice would acts that show immediately.

Emediately right.

And that's the situation there with with with south Park, and listen, that's business, that's Hollywood business.

You can have any kind of point of view you want, and if you make money, you're going to find a home.

Even if those people at the home you you found yourself in don't support you ideologically or politically, you're going to be able to stay around because you make money for them.

That's how it works, you know, exactly, show me the money.

Yeah, and south Park gets the free pass because of that, for sure.

But I mean, if you were to put the Acolyte on paramount, I guarantee you, I guarantee you after the first two or three episodes, I wouldn't have been surprised if they in pair amount of canceled and not even air the rest of the episode.

So you know, these are the things.

You can have whatever point of view you want.

But if you but if you don't make money, they're not going to keep supporting you or putting you on their airways.

That's just how it works, you know.

So there you go, all right, let's see here, what have we got?

We got some super testent have come through.

I don't know if any stream labs that come there.

I got a few of those, So let's say, let's hit some of those before we move on to the Golden Globes and Critics' choice stuff.

Let's see here Dennis Haff and thank you, Dennis.

I love the new cutt Dennis, the new haircut.

Yes, love the truth, John, keep it comming.

Thank you, Dennis.

I appreciate that.

I will Jay Scotti, freal have you seen Mental Family?

I did heartbreaking out.

I'm gonna do a run of reviews over the next few days.

I'm going to stack them like three or four on one video because I want to get a lot of reviews out there for the stuff that is being nominated before it removed, it moves itself off the Critics' Choice out because I want to rewatch a lot of these movies and do reviews from there.

Made me cry a few times, but in a good way.

Definitely more my speed than the whale.

That's fair.

I respect that, surely.

Yeah, It's much more uplifting than the whale, even though the whale is to me.

I loved the whale.

I thought it was beautiful and glorious, especially someone like me who struggled with his way to majority of his life.

I really found myself falling in love with that movie.

But I know Rental Family was devastating and gorgeous, and I understand that and much more uplifting.

And I understand that as well.

John Wallace forty five fifty nine says, you are my escape tonight.

My wife is watching the Eagles game now, and if I even breathed near her, I'm kicked out of the room.

He respect and no respect.

I was born in Philly, but I'm not an Eagles fan because I was raised in Virginia, so I became a Washington football fan, and so hear but I hear you.

I know what it's like to be around.

I have a bunch of friends who are Eagles fans here and there in LA and I've watched games with them, and it is always a tense atmosphere, even amongst friends.

So I can't even imagine being with your partner who's a massive Eagles fan and is temperamental if you say anything wrong.

Dennis Hoffen says, not a fan of this deal, but I understand for WB.

Does this motivate Sony Universal to try to fill the assumed WB theaterle Also does Netflix even promote movies WB are tops.

Well, that's a fair point.

I think with the last line there, Netflix is not really known for being for spending a lot of money promoting their movies.

I think that'll change if the Netflix WB thing gets approved, which is probably not another twelve months, not for another twelve months.

And of course we still got the split coming in twenty twenty six with the TV sides on one side of the movie sides on the other.

But I think that's the situation when you look at it, and is that you have to accept the fact that Netflix doesn't do a lot of promotion.

So I think that would have to change for sure.

I think Netflix would have to make some changes and be able to put that in motion a lot better.

We'll see if that actually goes down.

And what you said there about Sony Universal trying to fill the assumed WV theater hole, that's exactly what will happen, And that happens all the time in Hollywood.

As soon as a void pops up in Hollywood, a company or a studio or a creative or a production comes in to fill that void.

Now, I've seen that happen numerous times over the year staph for decades in the years of Hollywood.

It is rare that a void pops up and remains a void in Hollywood.

A twenty four is coming on strong.

They've taken in more money to try to go after bigger films, and that's a possibility could fill the void focus features and then also prime videos now trying to do more.

Right.

They got James Bond, they got these ips.

They're going to fill this.

So there's a lot that's going on here that is going to fill the void of a Netflix WB merger.

And listen, let's tell the truth.

Two years ago, it was Netflix buying WB.

First of all, it would be for way less and second of all, people might be on board with it because it would mean that Netflix would be putting in fusion of cash into WB and helping WB grow and get better or save WB from bankruptcy, you know, because they were not doing well.

And so you see that.

So it's amazing two years make a difference to you, especially over the last twelve months the string of hits the WB has had that has changed the narrative about the situation.

So yeah, fantastics as I see in the near future, if the bid goes overwritten to paramount they will ask for a government bailot because they're quote too big to fail.

I would not be surprised.

I would not be surprised.

I'm just curious the Cushner side of all of this.

I'm curious, like, is Trump playing both sides and in the end he's going to go with Paramount or does he really mean that both sides have been not great to him?

So you know he's it's gonna be who's gonna have to who's gonna curry favor more with him?

That's the I wonder what the situation is because is this all just appearances and then in the end he's gonna go with Paramoun because of Kushner's son in law being involved, or is Kushner being involved here because you know he's got the money to spend.

Could be an interesting way to go down.

And it's all business, and you know Trump's about the business, right, And yes he plays favorites, Yes he puts his fingers on the scale, but he is about business and he respects business.

So just because Kushner wants to make the deal doesn't mean Trump will do it necessarily.

Look how he's tuning his kids in the past when they've tried to go toe to toe with him, he steps on them and crushes them.

It's exactly what if you watch that Vince McMahon documentary he did the Shape and so and a little bit to Stephanie.

These guys don't have the same kind of connection that a Norman Walkwell father and son or parent child have.

They're much more ruthless and they're more willing to step on their families faces if they don't come correct, and it doesn't guarantee that they'll go with their family.

So, you know, because what does you want Kushner to get even more power and somehow rival him for attention in the family.

I don't think trouble with you with that at all, well at all, Alan Smith, you don't worry.

I'm keeping thirty five millimeter projection alive.

I know you are.

Smith.

I appreciate you doing that.

It's very kind of you.

I know you're amazing in that department.

That boy, thank you, that boy for the superstick.

Appreciated brother Simon section eleven seventieses.

I'm with you, John.

I remember watching classic movies on videotape at the library in my college, such as On the Waterfront, godfather too.

What's a time in America?

The truth?

I agree with you, Bro, I did the same thing I used to I was.

I worked at a TV station in Charlottesville, Virginia, w NBC twenty nine in Charlottesville, Virginia.

I was the overnight master control operator.

What does that mean, Well, it means I put the commercials in.

Back in the old days, you couldn't.

You couldn't digitally program them to come in.

You had to take the tapes.

You had to put them in on it, hit the button to run right at the commercial break when when infomercial or whatever old show was showing at three in the morning.

That's what I would do.

I did that for a year, working overnight, four nights a week, ten hours a shift.

It was the most insane experience I've ever had because I am not an overnight person.

I am a night owl and I am an early morning riser.

I only need five or six hours of sleep to exist to function in a twenty four hour day.

But even I was getting pushed the limit working overnight.

Just to stay awake, I had to drink.

I had to bring a two liter bottle of cola and a bag of jelly beans, and that's what my sugar intake was for a majority of the nights.

Now at the time, I was still running and working out lifting weights and so I could burn all that shit off.

But like I was doing that to stay awake, stay alive.

It was I think it was in my late twenties.

I did that for a year.

Charles will live with Maurice, my best friend there and so and I would go over to the library at UVA at Uva Charles wil Virginia, Uva and I would sit there and rent movies on my days off and just watch movies all day.

I had a friend of mine who had just graduated film school at that TV station, and he was very kind because I never went to film school.

I studied film later at Florida State.

But he was very kind to create curate a list of great films for me to watch.

And sometimes it was themes, sometimes it was directors, sometimes it was actors.

And I saw Louis Bounuel movies, Kurosawa movies, Felini movies, Antonio Nini movies, and then I also saw a lot of movies from foreign countries that were about a certain theme or a certain approach, And then I would go through the afilist and watch movies from the AFI list there some of them on LaserDisc, that's old, I am, some of them on Blu ray, and some of them on DVD.

And guess what, if the movie was good, it still got me sitting in a wooden cubicle next to a bunch of other cubicles in an uncomfortable chair with headphones on.

So a movie is good if it's If a movie is good, it doesn't matter where you show it.

People will enjoy it.

People watch movies on the plane and are and become utter emotional messes because the movie is good.

This idea that needs to be on a seventy millimeter screen for you to really appreciate a great movie, I think is utter nonsense.

It's a way to add to your appreciation.

But you can appreciate a movie watching it on a fucking airport push airport seat monitor.

So to me, that's the way I look at things.

You know, I've had too much experience of enjoying great movies on small screens.

Aracks ninety six.

As America is in decline, modern conservatives, still unhappy after winning, are unreasonable.

They criticized messages in films, yet push at conservative message themselves.

Thanks Jean for speaking out.

Oh yeah, bro, the hypocrisy from the right side of things, from the anti woke fuck are is hilarious.

These are the same people that go like, well, bring back the white people.

I want white people in charge and the lead of white people need to be the lead of everything, or they hide behind this bullshit.

Just tell me a good story, make sure a white person is the lead, but tell me a good story.

Nonsense, fucking nonsense, because guess what.

There are a lot of shitty movies and TV shows led by white people, and yet they keep getting opportunities.

One black person or a couple of black people have bad TV shows.

A man, we don't need to be we don't need to have woke shit, missus woke shit.

It's like, what the fuck man?

So unfortunately, because white people are the majority in entertainment and white people enjoiny of the country, this is the kind of thing you encounter that white people are allowed to fail at larger numbers than people of color or women of color or women or bene of color or LGBTQ plus people or people with disabilities.

Those people have to come correct, They have to bring it every time.

It better be amazing.

You know, remember what happened X Men ninety seven.

All those anti woke fuckers like the Monkeys and a Zoo were on top of each other throwing shit at the wall, going like.

They made Chameleon a transactual transit.

Goddamn it, What the hell he likes both men and women?

What the fuck the woverine ain't gay?

That ain't my wolverine, goddamnit?

And all this shit and why is it storm or why is it all this cry baby shit?

Then next Man ninety seven comes out and kicks them in the fucking nuts with its greatness and shuts them the fuck up.

And that's what happens, right if you unfortunately, you have to bring it at that level to shut those voices up at least about your project because they're gonna move on to another project.

And started crying and complaining because they got a grift.

They got a grift.

They gotta make their money.

They got to concoct shit they're offended about, just like MAGA does so they can make their money.

So you know, I put I give two shits two cents about what they think but yes, the hypocrisy there is always just stunning to witness, right, just like a watching Laura ingram Lebron shut up and dribble.

Aaron Rodgers supports Maga.

Aaron Rodgers is a great man.

He should keep speaking out on stuff.

It's the hypocrisy of it, all right.

I saw Kennedy the mtvv Jan Kennedy on Fox News being hypocritical as fuck with her points of views.

No matter how bigger glasses are, she can't seem to see what the fuck she's actually Uh what the ship that she's shoveling out there?

You know?

Uh?

Fantastics is played?

Playtus uh Ko played this Kaiju metaphor?

Which streamer is play this Kaiju metaphor?

Which streamer is?

Gamera?

Uh?

Prime Video?

I would say Prime Video is Gamera.

Yeah, like MGM plus is like the son of Godzilla, like the little guy blowing the holes?

Uh, but yeah, I think Kamara is probably a Prime video because King Kong is is uh probably Disney right or Apple?

Well, Apple is Apple's more like Rodan, right.

Apples more like that they're gonna show up when they want to show up.

They're bringing to the way who's Who's.

Yeah, yeah, I think that's what it would be.

I think it's I think that's the correct thing.

But somebody correct me on that if you think it's different kJ seven four seven.

It's good, seem Boddy seven four five.

It's a fact that fans are going to the movies.

Last, can you name some of your worst movie theater experiences?

Well, can you be specific, like in terms of uh, in terms of getting into it with people.

I've had that happen a few times.

I mean, you know, and the outlo.

I never instigate.

I never instigate.

I just have one of those energies that people sometimes take things in a certain way.

I can't remember.

Yeah, I'm gona take a shrink because I've been talking straight from now.

I remember years ago when I went to see the somebody you've heard this story.

I don't know some of you heard this story.

But years ago, when I went to see The Great and Powerful Oz with James Franco, I went with an old friend of mine, Edgar and who we're not friends anymore, but we were friends at the time, and with my girlfriend at the time, her name was Jamie Jane, and we were going to see the movie they we had gone in early and got middle seats in a row, and I went to go get Recie's PCs, and when I came back, this guy was trying to force Edgar and Jamie Gan to move down three seats so that him and his family could come and sit there in the middle.

And I'm like, no, bro, we got here first.

We're going to keep the middle.

You can move to the left or right, but we're going to keep the middle.

And he got all upset.

And I think this was a husband trying to like show off for his wife and child or whatever.

And I was like, listen, Pale, we got here first.

We have a right to stay here if we don't want to move.

I at the time, I liked sitting in the middle.

I was young, I didn't have to piss so much, so I didn't mind sitting in the middle.

So I wanted to sit in the middle because to me, I was such a movie snob that to me, I had that was the only way to truly see the movie is to sit in the middle and have the movie play out for you exactly in the middle.

I mean, I was so anal that I would like measure out where I sat and some of you are like this, it will laugh at me.

Some of you were like and so I would have to visit.

So when I sat in the middle, I knew exactly what I was, what I was doing.

So I got into it with the guy, got upset, his wife got involved.

Try yeah, and it got verbal and it almost got physical.

And of course both my girlfriend at the time and my friend at the time were like sinking into their chairs because they were they were embarrassed by and then you know, rightfully so, but to me it was important at the time, and so I was like, you came in late.

You don't get to dictate where you sit, you know, And so that could happen sometimes.

But worst movie going theen experiences.

Yeah, I've had, as I said, had those kids run around in the theater.

I sat next to an influencer couple at a Gladiator two screening in San Diego.

It was packed.

I was in the middle seats in the press row.

These people were pressed.

These two twenty year olds were pressed in their fucking juicy sweatpants.

And the guy was talking all through the movie because the girl hadn't seen Gladiator and he was like giving her all the information loudly, and I was going insane, And then he went out twice to go get them food from the refreshment stand.

The second time, they brought ICs and they drank their icies, and as they got to the end of their icies, they were doing that slurping thing loudly two or three times while after they drank all the ice.

So it was like that loud ass noise.

And finally one of the movie critics, my fellow movie critics and the door was like, guys, can you keep it down a little bit?

And the dude's like, keep it down.

Why don't you tell me to keep it down.

I'll eat you outside of the theater.

We'll see how much I can keep it down.

And I was like, really, this is what we're fucking doing.

So as soon as he said that, I got up and walked out, And you know why, because I was this close to going like, let's you and I go fucking outside right now, because it was just so I was so upset, but I don't want to get into a physical confrontation with somebody because the salt battery charge go to jails.

No, it's not over a fucking movie.

It doesn't make sense.

So to me, I was like, I'm not enjoying the experience.

I'm gonna go to I'm gonna go see it in the movie theater by myself then and I left right and uh.

I went saw it the next day, did it out of theater reaction because they had a second screening for it.

But he was just like he it was so insane to me, how disrespectful he was in the movie theater.

When I went to see Ferrari, I had an old man snoring through the whole movie.

The whole fucking movie.

He snored, people trying to wake him up three or four times, went right back to sleep.

It's a mayora.

He paid for his ticket.

He's got a right to sit there and fall asleep.

Ibe once.

We just have to deal with it.

This is the kind of madness that you deal with sometimes when you go to movie theaters with people.

They have no respect, you know.

So that's some of the worst movie theater experiences, some of them.

I've got more.

Trust me, I've got more because I've gone to the movie so many times, I'm bound to have like some insane movie theater experiences, and that certainly a few of them.

Fran Tessa's platus was supposed to be great auto correct, oh great kaiju metaphor oh thank you?

Which streamer is gonna be?

Okay, So that's what you're trying to say.

Thank you, Fred, appreciate that a lot.

Let's see, let me get to these stream LPs and then we'll move on to other business.

I'm too fly Cams's thoughts on Nick quent as growing in popularity.

It seems the right is openly racist and embracing Nazis now.

Pierce Morgan had him on and this kid ran circles around him for two hours.

Dangerous days ahead.

This nut job is modern day Republicans now.

Thanks.

Yeah, I mean I don't watch too much of stuff.

I've seen him in clips on TikTok, and yes, you're right, he can run rings around people.

Smart kid.

Whether you like his message or not, and certainly I do not, the kid is smart.

He knows how to play this game, and he knows how to appeal to the younger generation and their DJF attitude about everything.

They don't worry about anything.

For the most part, what I experienced from younger people is nothing's a big deal and nothing's a small deal.

It's all just kind of the same.

And it's a fascinating thing.

It's a fascinating attitude because like for the last few generations, we have started to explode or expose the fallacy of the American dream.

Right.

Started in the kind of fifties and sixties.

Seventies were the protest against systemic racism and systemic sexism.

The eighties were this respite where people were caught up in you know, money and excess.

For the first time the country alone had money, and people were buying things and selling things, and they were just going for the wealth.

The yuppie culture, right, and then the nineties came around, yet a gangster culture, gangster rap yet all this kind of the harder edge stuff, right, and with the professional wrest in the attitude era, this idea of the gray I'm gonna say this, the protagonist that was a grayer protagonist, not black or white gray.

So I had some darker tendencies, but always trying to do good, but use some dark, nefarious tactics to achieve its goodness.

Right in the two thousands, we had a kind of a time.

We were progressing to a place where we were uh embracing sexuality, a bit more and being open with that and embracing that and having pride in that and talking about that and not and trying to remove the kink and the shame of that.

And of course the also the the LGBTQ plus culture becomes big in the two thousands and so it's about like diversity and openness and all this kind of stuff.

But for the last fifteen years that has changed, where now the new generation is much more prudish.

They don't give ash, they don't want to see nudity on screen, they're not as sexually motivated.

And as a but as a retort to that, the older generation is now like coming after the younger generation because they're the ones who are like, give me back my nudity, give me back my thist, back my sex and all this kind of stuff.

And so what you see now is the younger generations are in a different place about everything, and they have gone even further into looking at the hypocrisy and the fallacy of the American dream and the American society.

Nick Fuetes in a way represents that from the right side point of view, from the right point of view, because to him, even Donald Trump is fodder for what I mean, he's been going after Trump if you've seen some of those, cause he's going after Trump like because he doesn't care.

He's going to go after where he's going to go after no matter what.

And people have doxed him, people have come after and people put his addresses online.

He doesn't care, going uh, And he's growing in power because what people respect is a DGAF attitude twenty four to seven, and people people like that, people gravitate to that.

People see power in that.

Right.

So it's like the old generation sees power in Trump just being like, fuck everything and I'm gonna do what I want.

The younger generation sees power at d GAF, which is that kind of thing of like nothing's a big deal, it's all it is all cool, and they're gonna do what they want to do, and oh, you want me to wear it tied?

Fuck you, I'm gonna wear a tie.

Why do I gonna wear a tie?

I gotta wear a tie show to play some kind of game with you because of society says, I don't even shit, And so you see that.

That's what's going on.

Quentz represents that, you know, even though he even though he wears a suit jacket.

It's like a suit jacket is too big for It's that kind of subtle commentary about the expectations of society.

It's his way of thumbing his nose at the expectations of society.

And he has made a massive market out of that, you know.

And so I mean, I actually do not like obviously because he's he's a white supremacist.

I'm not a fan of the the dialogue, but I also objectively can't deny the fact that he has found a niche and he has found a lot of people to follow him into that niche.

Uh.

Sam's his thoughts on this year's college football PLAYFF and who do you think will win this year?

Uh?

I thought that the people that got in were supposed to get in.

I think the drum beat for note you name to join a conference.

I think this is the biggest indicator that they need to join a conference, because dancing outside of the conference is if you're better than everybody else, that does eventually catch up to you, if your record is a bit shaky, and in the end, the record is a bit shaky.

So I don't mind, and I love that Tulane and James Madison got in, especially because my best friend is a graduate of James Madison, uh and so I'm excited to see what they can do.

Who knows, James Madison, if they pull the upside in Oregon, who knows what could happen.

I mean, You've got you've got a ole miss team with a with without laying Kevin as a coach, you have a a some shaky teams in there, defensively or offensively, so anything can happen.

Upsets are going to be the norm in this particular college football playoff.

I think in the end, Ohio State is too strong to be denied, but Georgia is coming on, and if Georgia has figured their shit out, George Ohio State is an exciting final, but so is Indiana.

I still don't one hundred trust Indiana, but they can run the table and win this whole thing, and they will be one of the biggest powerhouses of the last twenty years if they run the table, because they are they are pounding people, they kick the shit out.

I don't know they beat Ohio State, but they they really manhandled Ohio State for majority of that game.

So I think it's going to be interesting to see what all, how it all goes down, fran TASiS.

Thank you Jay Rogan for speaking the truth.

The more I think about the Netflix purchase, the more I'm okay with it.

Watching the box office results won't be a big deal because Netflix movie releases aren't tracked because is not crucial to their revenue model.

That's for sure.

That's for sure.

It's one hundred percent for sure by the man.

So we will see how that all goes down.

But yeah, I appreciate you coming, you know, kind of seeing it from my side.

You don't have to agree with me, but you know, I'm just trying to convey a point of view about this whole situation that isn't necessarily the doom and gloom chicken little point of view you've seen from some of my colleagues online and some of the people like Josh Over Dennon nerds who were like swinging from paramounts dick about having them get WB.

You know, it's not a given in any way, shape or form.

Let's see here, Oh dog, what's up?

Dog?

Good to see man, he says, Hey, Rocca, what year do you think those anti woe YouTube channels become more mainstream became more mainstream.

I felt it was in twenty fifteen when Trump came into the political scene.

Do you think they'll fade away after Trump passes?

Well, I think yes, possibly they I think it maybe it was twenty fifteen.

I think it was a little bit.

I think it's twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen when I started to really see that that was a big deal because being a colle especially well maybe even after that, because it wasn't until after it was like twenty twenty one, twenty twenty two that I really saw some people change, you know, and and I wasn't even aware of some of those channels until I started going out on my own, you know, when when certain people came after me, I was like, who the fuck are these people?

Like?

I had no idea who they were.

And then I looked it up and I was like, oh, wow, they got a big following.

What is their content?

Oh, it's a lot of hateful shit.

I was like, well, I guess that sells, but I certainly didn't know it was it.

So I think it started growing in about twenty seventeenty eighteen, and then twenty twenty two, twenty three is when it really kind of just hit its peak.

I think there's less of them now, or at least I don't see them as much now because the market is saturated with same kind of channels just spewing the same kind of stuff, saying the same kind of things.

And I truly believe that people only have so much room in their heart for hate and watching hate, and they're not going to go to like forty different channels, most of them, to see the same message over and over again about the woke mind virus and all of that nonsense.

Do you think, though, fade away after Trump passes?

I don't know, to be honest with you, Uh Trump, I don't think.

I think the only thing that fades away legitimately when Trump passes is the MAGA movement.

And I think we've seen this a number of elections now recently, Like if Trump isn't on the ballot, Magan Republicans don't win usually, And so that tells you that's the power of personality.

And I think no one has the power to step in after Trump that has that same kind of personality.

Not Jamie Vance, not Christy nom, not fucking Hexath.

None of those guys have the Trump personality.

And so it's a unique, it's a one of one, and when he goes, I think that's where that movement fractures.

We're already seeing it fracture.

Today.

One of the reporters who covers The Hill said that twenty Republicans are going to retire this week.

Twenty.

That is an absolute shot at the leadership of the Republican Party.

And that's MAGA and Trump.

MTG was the beginning, but you're gonna see more Anapaulina Luna starting out to speak out against him.

Valentina Gomez, who was that nutty racist down in Texas.

Trump didn't support her, So now she's talking shit about Trump on her video.

So it's like, this is what you're gonna get is they're going to eventually eat each other.

That's what hate does, no matter what they say about their for America.

No, it's hate that they're spewing.

And hate must be fed constantly, and so you have to keep creating things all this.

Now it's the Somali immigrants, and now it's this and that.

Now it's the Afghanistanians who came over never mind who's trained by the CEA, and it's all that shit, and it feeds hate and more and more of the hate that gets fed.

Eventually the hate has to turn on itself and start eating itself.

And that's what you're seeing now is a magis the beginnings of a MAGA civil war that are going on between these people, and they're going to eventually gobble themselves up.

Now.

I don't think it's gonna happen on YouTube, because I just think what's gonna happen is as as people have less and less tolerance for hate full channels, you're gonna see those people pivot and claim it's a natural evolution of my mindset, which means I need to make more.

I need to make the money I was making, so I'm gonna embrace this.

Look what Megan Kelly did.

Megan Kelly tried to use sexual assault survivors and victims to save her NBC show, uh, and then she became irrelevant.

And it wasn't until she embraced MAGA and platformed MAGA and pushed that ideology more that she all of a sudden found new life.

And now she's out here ignoring the sexual the consent of teenagers trying to scoff and laugh at it as as it's and and say that it's not really underage and not really young girls.

And so that's what.

So for her, she embraced that because it led to power, and now she is stuck in that place.

In order to keep her power, she has to constantly be reaffirming whatever disgustingly sexist, racist, homophobic shit that the MAGA say, that extreme MAGA says, so that they keep listening to her.

So I think when the public says they don't want that shit anymore, that's what you're gonna see all these people change.

Again.

It's the public that it takes everything.

If people didn't watch or listen to it, they wouldn't keep spewing hate.

But people do you know, until and when they stop, it's going to change.

Massives McCall accidentally spill your drink, Accidentally spill your drunken glad Gladiator influencer, No I don't.

I don't know who it was.

I really don't know who it was.

Oh, accidentally spill your drink on the gladiator.

No, no, no, that's I don't.

I don't like to you guys might not believe this, but I don't like to get into confrontations in public.

I don't like to antagonize people.

I like to keep to myself.

I am an extra and I am an introvert, and by that I mean I'm an extrovert on here and talk with you guys and being on shows.

It's a lot of fun.

But when I'm out in the public, I really like to keep to myself.

I don't like to go out there and be a gregarious personality when I go to the movie I hardly talk to any of the critics here at San Diego.

It's not because I don't think that I should or I don't want to get to know them.

It's I'm just a private person.

When I'm out in public, I like to keep to myself.

But if someone comes up and talks to me, I'll have a conversation with them.

I met a guy recently at a screening who was a fan of The Outlaw.

I had no idea this dude.

And the dude has one hundred thousand subscribers on TikTok, and he works at a nursing care facility and he does reviews at night, and he's been doing anime reactions on his TikTok's amazing and I sat and talked with him for like five ten minutes before we were before the Running Man screen.

I think it's called Rob Talks Movies, very simple title, smart to the point.

And his tiktoks are great.

I watched them.

I wish I could do those TikTok.

It's kind of the goal in twenty twenty six, it's be more on TikTok and create more content of TikTok.

And he's one of the inspirations.

I saw what he was able to do, like I can do that if people watch.

Who knows, but I can do that, and so I will talk him.

But I don't normally go out of my way to talk to people.

So I don't like to cause any kind of trouble, you know.

I just like to be like Bruce Laye.

I don't want no trouble.

I just want to watch the movie, you know.

Dougalls says, Award season is upon us.

You, being a lover of Westerns and epics, what are your thoughts on Heaven's Gate and The Postman, both considered worst ever?

The Postman is not redeemable.

It's a bad movie.

I love Costner, I love Will Patton.

That is not a good movie.

Water World is better than The Postman for fox Sake, Heaven's Gate Heavens I have on Criterion.

I like Heaven's Gate.

I know the issues with Heaven's Gate, but I enjoy the characters and I enjoy the performance in this.

So I think there's been a reassessment of Heaven's Gate over the last few years.

I don't think it would be on Criterion if there hadn't been a reassessment.

And so I really love that movie.

So yeah, I like that movie a lot, and I think, well, not a lot.

I like that movie, and I think it's better than the people initially thought.

And I'm sad because Michael Chimino.

That was the end of Michael Chimino's a director, and I think you should have kept going.

kJ seven four to five seven says Superman.

The movie Special Edition is the superior version of the movie compared to theatrical version of my opinion, what do you think, otis Berg?

Uh, yeah, sure, I like the Superman movie specially.

I'm not as hardcore about the nineteen seventy eight Superman as some like my friend Michael Volgelnis right, Like, I've seen that movie probably forty or fifty times.

But if you're asking me to tell the difference between the Superman Movie Specially Edition and the what that came out in theaters.

I couldn't tell you the difference, so I appreciate your opinion.

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Right wing radio got bigger on two thousand and five ish.

Yeah, yeah, that that I do know.

The early two thousands is when right wing radio with Glenn Beck and Russ rush Limbaugh and God, there's a few Dennis Lahane I think it was.

There's quite a noh no, wait, that's an author.

I can't remember Dennis Dennis something, but there was a There was a number of them there in the early two thousands, for sure.

It couldn't get away from them.

And of course Howard started us the counter to those guys.

So I listened to Howard.

Mister Penguin eighty eights is, do you think fans will turn on Superol movie if it's too much like Guardians of the Galaxy.

No, I think some people will.

The people who have it out for James Gunn listen.

I'm an honest person about James got right.

I praise the things that are great about gun and I sometimes will come after some of his false truths, some of his massaging the truth responses to certain things.

But I'm honest about God, and I think there are people who aren't, and there are people who are adamant and they want him out because they're snyderburst people, or they just don't like his stuff, and so they'll find any excuse to not like him.

And so I think there will be some people who will say it's too much like Guarding the guy.

He's repeating himself, even though he didn't direct the movie.

Craig Gillaspie directed the movie.

But they'll come after Gun anyway, so we'll see.

But I'm looking forward to that on Thursday, that trailer.

I hope it's good.

And the rumor is Doomsday is going to come out the same day, which to me makes no sense.

Got to put dooms down a separate day.

I don't know why you would put it on the same day.

It makes no sense.

John d X Dragon says, Hey, ro good, thank you for always being bringing honesty and good character to your videos.

Thank you, don I appreciate I appreciate that question.

What are your most what are your most excited to see from DC and Netflix in the future, and what would you want overall personally?

Well, I think I would want Here's what I would want.

I want Netflix to not put their fingers on everything, because what I have seen Netflix do is they buy properties and people are excited.

Like Avatar the Last Airbender, not a great series, but enough people enjoyed it, then they got a second season.

But like they essentially ran off the original creators of the series, because what Netflix like to do is their executives like to put their fingerprints on the things that they buy.

And sometimes in putting their fingerprints on the things they've got, they offend people who come in with their stuff, and so I think that's an issue with Netflix.

So I don't want them to do that.

So the one thing one of the things I would like to see, when I want overall personally, is for them not to put their fingerprints on the DC universe.

Let Jim's gun cook with the DC universe.

If it starts to fall apart or has bad reactions from people, then okay, Netflix step in fix this, figure out what to do.

I like the excitement.

A Netflix Booster Gold show makes all the sense in the world to me.

A Netflix Blue Beetles show makes all the sense in the world to me.

Ted cord or hierirayas Himirayus rather, I'm down with that.

So I think there's a lot of opportunities to have shows because like the things you've been hearing from certain scoopers, is that HBO Max people or HBO people were kind of laughing at James Gunn thinking he could do HBO level quality shows with the DC universe.

Now Lanterns, I think is going to be an anomaly.

It's why they're comparing it to True Detective.

But I think there was a one to twin show or something like that.

There was other shows that gun was pitching, and from what I understand from people I've heard with sources that HBO they were kind of giggling to themselves thinking James could do those kinds of shows on HBO with the prestige that HBO has.

Netflix, however, makes all the sense in the world for those kinds of shows, you know.

And I think that's gonna I think that's gonna be fun to see if this all goes through.

I could see a Mister Miracle show live action on Netflix, couldn't you.

That would be a lot of fun.

So I think there's more possibilities to play with some of the smaller characters or some of the more interesting characters of the DC universe.

A Harley Quinn TV show.

Tell me you wouldn't see a Harley Quinn series that's six episodes.

It would be kind of fun.

So I think there's Harlequin, Poison IVY, live action h lethal weapon type show, Let's Go, you know, So there's I think there's possibilities there, and I'd like them to keep putting the movies on in the theaters.

I don't.

I want the DC movies, the ones that merit.

It should be out in theaters for as long as they can run and make money, and then of course moving too stream so people can enjoy.

So I think there's a lot that can be done there.

There would be a lot of fun with DC at Netflix, for sure.

I would love if they had a service where you could want you could read the comics on Netflix like you would just turn the page with your with your current with your Apple TV control or whatever control you Roku whatever, and you can read DC comics on on the Netflix on TV.

That would be a lot of fun.

But that is a sitution.

But make that happen as an app.

They've got those trivia apps that you can play.

Why can't you on a DC see umbrella select the title and booth you can read the title there on the street.

I think it'd be great.

John also comes in with I legitmly believe that spill Supergirl will be the winner for DC in twenty twenty six.

Craig g Leslie is the golden egg gun has right now and will surprise everyone.

Yeah, Craigi Leslie is amazing, So I would not be surprised if it super comes out and it's and it's fucking great.

I love his I Tanya, I think he's a great director, and I think he understands how to say use but I think he understands how to get the best out of female actresses and these and these characters, and so I am very curious just on the ten seconds I saw the energy of those ten seconds.

I'm like, yeah, I'm on board with this.

I'm on board with this.

So I think we're going to have a banger of the movie.

I agree with you.

And from what a lot of us are hearing behind the scenes is at these screenings that they've had already, these quiet screenings they've had for people on the lot at WB, the response has been really positive to that movie.

So I think that's great and I agree with you.

I think it's going to be a winner for DC in twenty twenty six kJ seven four or five cents?

Is do you still think about the questions you missed in the smow battles?

Oh my god, your performances were so impressive and inspiring.

That is so nice of you to say.

Man, you know, it's always weird to be reminded of it, because it's like, it's kind of crazy.

It was what seven years ago or six years ago, something like that, it was, you know, I guess it was five.

I guess.

Well, I don't know how long has it been.

It's been a bit, right, So I mean in person, I think it's been seven years.

Other than the shmownown spectacular, when I've retired online, I think it was a little bit less.

So yeah, it's been a bit.

But I still go back and watch old matches everyone and play because sometimes I forget and not even my matches, I go and play other people's matches and see if I can still do it.

Listen, I'm getting older.

Some of those some of those answers don't come as quickly as they used to.

So that's the truth.

I remember Matt actually said that to me one time.

We were right after we beat them, right top ten beat Rotten Tomatoes when it was him and Great Drake and Matt's and we went out to I mean, Matt's one of the best dudes.

Like I didn't know.

I didn't know if Matt was a good duke because he was kind of like aloof a little bit at times and could be playfully critical of things.

But one of the coolest things ever was like we went out after that match and I think Barney's Beanery, went up and just had some food and chatted because I asked him if he wouldn't mind have a lunch after the game, and we had a really nice conversation and we became friends.

And I like Matt a lot.

He's such a good guy.

And you know, he was always great to give me advice when I was starting out and how to approach this stuff, and he was never shy about it.

He always had called me, like call me, text me if you come into anything, I will absolutely guide you through it.

And it was like great.

One of the things he said to me near the end, I think Christian was there too, is that he said, like, you know, you guys love playing this game because you can let me tell you something.

As you get older, those answers don't come as quickly as they used to it, and you know what, he's fucking right, Like, I don't know if I could repeat my performances from back then.

Now.

You know, I watched myself some of those twenty sixteen twenty seventeen matches, and I'm like, who this guy's this guy is, this guy's a lot, That roka is a lot, and I just go, wow, I don't I that was that time.

You know, I was hungry, I was driven.

I was desperate to prove myself in the field of punditry.

And then the shmowdown, and I had a lot of people who didn't want me to succeed.

Some of the people that you guys watch or listen talked a lot of shit about me behind my back because I came in as the as the new guy, and I immediately wanted all of it.

I didn't want to wait.

I didn't want to sit behind people because I was older than and I didn't have a lot of time establish myself, so I had to use the time.

I had to try to do as much as possible, and you know, that stepped on some toes that rubbed some people wrong, but it was never from a place of malice.

It was always from a place of I don't have a lot of time.

I need to establish myself because I know I want to do this.

Uh And so you know, some people didn't like it, some people got upset about some people liked it, and a lot of you fans were very supportive of it, which I appreciate because you know, it wasn't always being It wasn't easy being the outlaw and blurring the lines between personal and a character.

But it means so much when people still remember it and talk about it, and it still makes me feel old because I feel old about that stuff.

But watching watching that that angry, driven, determined, aggressive roca like I remember the first few years of the shmool and Christian will attest to this.

I would pace back and forth some of the people who have we're in it, remember, like I wanted to play every match.

I was so hungry to prove what I knew about movies that I wanted to play in every match.

Like I would play matches in my head when other people were playing on the set.

I would just walk back and forth and yell stuff out to some of the competitors, you know, because I was.

I was kind of young and full of piss and vinegar and had my beliefs on things.

And of course I look about that behavior and I feel a little shamed about that behavior back then because I didn't know any better, and I was just like, you know, I just loved it so much, and I was I wanted to do it.

I was.

I wanted to I wanted to fight every I wanted to have a two on one match.

I wanted to fight a whole team by my on my own.

Like I just had this thing like I want to prove it, you know, And it was an extension of wanting to prove myself in the in the in the space of punditry.

And I worked hard at it, you know, And I worked a lot of years with no money, for no money.

I don't know how many shows I did where I never got paid a dime.

And so people come into the punching space now, like you need to pay me fifty dollars an hour.

It's like, what, you haven't done anything?

Who the fuck are you?

You know, people have this kind of entitlement too.

I did two years, two or three years where I was driving all the time up and down the road in between auditions, in between gigs.

It was at the time I was living off my acting gigs, so I was hustling, and I would go and I would hang out with Adam or Hector or Augustine or Danny or Ellis or Christian or the people over at Geek Nation, the people over at how was the other place geek and Sundry and the place that, like am a fife was a BuzzFeed and Lucas.

Lucas ran that place out in North Hollywood.

Fuck what was it.

Adam would do stuff there.

God, I can't remember the place.

And I would do stuff there, you know.

And I did it for free.

There are so many I did for free, you know.

And I I loved it because I was I was proud to do it for free, because I'm a guy who likes to earn my keep, and so I got to prove to you I can do this.

So I as soon as I did it, I'd be like, when can I be back?

I'd love to come back.

And then, you know, if I didn't hear from them for a couple weeks, I'd send that message or something.

I didn't mind.

I was hungry, you know, and so I wanted to prove myself and I wanted to test myself.

I wanted to see how I could get back as the only get better is to do it.

It's the truth in life.

You can be trained, you can train all you want, but you got to do it.

That's when you really learn how to do this stuff, you know.

And so for me, that was something that I was always driven by and I never had qualms about not getting paid.

It wasn't until later, like when Collider paid us.

I think it was twenty five bucks a show to host the Flash After show and the Walking Dead recap show.

That was like from was freelance and before I became full time.

I mean I was happy with that.

I was like, twenty five bnks, Sure, why not this experience I'm working people like Campia or David Griffin was real.

David is one of the best dudes on the business.

John wasn't.

We never had like a friendship John and I, but I was respected him and I still respect him.

But you know, we don't text each other or call each other, but we don't hear each other's shows.

We don't have that kind of relationship right for whatever reason, I don't know, what the reason is.

But for whatever reason, and but I always respected John because he was a successful guy who kind of paved the way along with Jamie and Stuckman and the guys from the Yeah and the guys from the beginning.

Is it Jamie?

Am I saying that?

Right?

Oh?

Fuck, my mind just went see what I mean?

I would get killed in this mone out.

Uh the dude with the Jeremy Jeremy sorry Jeremy.

John's yes, Jerry, Jamie, Jeremy, Yes, Jeremy.

I love Jeremy's my boy.

So uh yeah.

So you know, working with those guys, I got to learn so much.

You know, working with Ken Knapsock, I got to learn so much.

Uh.

Roxy Uh taught me so much.

Dan Murrell, I mean, that's one of my friendships that I'm very proud to still have, is Dan Murrell, you know.

And so there are so many people who taught me, uh and so many Lawn Harris.

I loved watching Lan.

Lawn was so smart about stuff and such a unique personality.

Who is the skinny kid at fandom who works the honest trailers with Lawn?

That guy was good.

He brought me on on a show to talk about nineteen eighty, I Betman and it was a great conversation with him.

And so Gray Drake, who was amazing, I mean, is one of the Gray is an angel in the business man Gray.

Gray is just such a good person.

Like if you if you're on the bad side of Gray, you've done something terribly wrong.

Gray is such a loving, accepting person and she's great, you know, And in a business when so many people are jealous and envious and try to backstab you or sabotage you, Gray is one of the good ones that's out there.

She really is.

She's one of the great ones.

Uh yeah.

Working with the people at BuzzFeed, uh was great.

Yeah.

Joe Starr, Yes, Joe, Joe was great.

Joe was a lot of fun.

Uh yeah.

Or work with Dorena Mike Joyce said, Dorena.

Yeah, Drena was a blast at at Collider and when we did our politics show.

I had a great time working with Dorena.

She was such a good person, you know.

So there were quite a few and even you know, Perry was a great mentor for the first year and a half I was there, and then at times we were butt heads because I wanted more and she was already at that place, and so so I was kind of, you know, maybe possibly threatening what she wanted and all of it.

So it's it's you know, it's ass.

And Frosty's is a terrible boss who wants codependent relationships with his employees, and I was never good at that.

And Fernandez and I never had the greatest of relationships because Mark, I just I just didn't get that guy at all, and he didn't get me, and we just never really mixed.

I appreciated him hired me full time.

I'll always be grateful they hired me full and they trusted me to try to do collider sports.

I always appreciated that, But I never knew where I stood with him.

We never had like a warm relationship.

He never took me out for lunch or dinner or a drink or anything.

He would take other people out for lunch or drink or dinner, but he never took me out.

And that to me was always an indication of like where he saw me, and so you know, those are motivating things.

And then when he let me go, he tried to take me out to lunch, and I was like, what, why, why would you now want to take me out to lunch because you fucked up and how you fired me, and so I've never like, you know, I never really appreciated that, and so I never went out to lunch with him, you know, And he stopped after the first couple of weeks.

He stopped trying.

I tried to hug me one time and I was like, what are you doing?

Then, you know, it was it was weird.

So we just never blake got it along.

And you know, he took down all the collider sports stuff eventually, and so I've never been able to get access to any of that, so I have no footage of that anymore.

But you know, it was a mixed back and look, I'm sure I take response.

I'm sure my aggressive desire to learn and get better and study and do more rub people the wrong way.

You know.

I had battles occasionally with Thad because that would remember Thatad yelling at me one time he said, you want to be on everything, Roka, and I got mad at him and we went at it.

And you know, it was never from a place of like, you know, fuck everyone else, give me what I want.

It was more from a place of like, I want to learn and I need to be able to do this stuff to learn.

It wasn't an ego thing.

It wasn't like I want to.

You know, if I had an ego, I would be taking selfies and doing videos.

I would have a TikTok account already.

I just I don't have that thing to put myself on camera all the time, although that's got to change.

I just don't, you know, even convincing myself to do an episode of the Truth tonight, I spent all day trying to talk myself into it.

You know, this is how I work.

I'm not a person who necessarily I know, this is weird for some people to get.

I'm not a person necessarily wants to draw attention to myself, which is really an antithesis to be successful in this business.

And so I'm you know, should I do more reactions, yes, Should I do more videos, yes, But I'm not always a person who wants to get up there and put myself on camera, which is ironic because in the past, all I want to do was get on a camera so I could prove what I could do, you know.

So, yeah, I didn't always have the best relationships with some people there, some of the production guys didn't like me because they were constant editing my shit because I was on all the shit and maybe it was personal.

I don't know.

We never had a conversation about it.

But you see the people who invite me on their shows and the people who don't.

I should tell you where my relationships are with those people, I think.

And one of the guys who taught me a lot was Ken, I mean, Ken Knapsock.

I should reach out to Ken.

I want to come on his YouTube show or his Facebook show.

What's it called The the Flappening or I think it's called The Flappening or something like that.

I've watched a few episodes on on Facebook.

I like Ken.

Ken's Ken's great, great personality, great voice, great attitude.

And I always thought, I always lament the fact that we never did a show together because I think Ken and I would be a great combo because Ken is even more of a introvert than I am, even on camera, and I but I think like I could challenge him, We could have a nice like energy and chemistry going back and forth about topics overall.

But Ken's a slippery eel, like he will only give you as much as he wants to give you about what he really thinks about something.

You know, it's rare when you get Ken to crack open and give you everything he thinks about something.

And I think that's kind of the gift of Ken because people are intrigued by the mystery and they sense that he's holding something back, so they keep coming back to see what else he has to say about stuff.

I think it's it's his natural energy.

So yeah, the blathering, that's right, the blathering that's a Alan Smithy the Bladder, which I thought, it's a great title.

It's a very good title.

I was like, oh, that's a good title.

Fuck, I should have thought of that, but yeah, but yeah, I mean those were the Those were the days, and I learned so much from so many people.

Right, Christian Ellis taught me so much.

I watched them all the time, working with Snap right, working with John.

John was an interesting character, an interesting cat.

And I'm not one of those people that's going to take advantage of my relationship with John.

John was.

I was the producer, and I enjoyed being friends.

I would say friends with John, not deep plans, not close friends.

We didn't go on trips together.

I didn't try to attach myself like a barnacle to John Stepp.

I was respectful to John because he had established himself and done his thing.

You know.

I wasn't one of those people that tried to do that with people, and so I had a healthy respect for John.

And of course when what happened to him, I went to the hospital visit him a few times.

It was so heartbreaking to be in the room to see a man that size brought so small, but he still had that energy.

He's still I mean, just him lying in a hospital bed, he still felt like a tight let me tell you, like a titan.

And I'm gonna stress that second.

Te like in every definition of the word.

Even in a hospital bed with tubes in him and he's kind of in and out of it, he still was this titan figure in her room.

And that is just an exam a sample of the energy that was John Snepp, you know.

And Robert Meyer Burnette.

I loved, I love Rob.

I still love Rob.

I love to do more stuff with Rob.

I think Rob is one of the one of the best guys man.

I loved working with him.

Oh god, it, what's oh shit, It's been so long since I thought about her who was the co host on Heroes with Schnepp.

What was her name?

Amy?

Amy?

Right?

She was so sweet?

Is it?

Amy?

Is that right?

Amy?

I forget what her name is?

Oh, I forget what you lost?

Trump one Larry Allison on Random Yes, Amy Dallan, Yes, Amy?

Amy another sweetheart by the way, A sweetheart but deceptively strong that she needs to be you.

Amy is the nicest person, but if she if you cross her, or she thinks you've you've done something wrong, she will fucking let you know in a way that surprises you.

So I love that about Amy.

She was a sweet, art, very nice person.

But if she felt you were on the wrong side of things, or you weren't you weren't treating certain things right, she let you know.

I remember one time she had she had a harsh word for me because I was I made some comment about something and she said, well, that's what well, and I can't remember exactly what she said, but she kind of made me stop because she was just like, well, I think you should look at it this way, and that's what I like.

I Amy, You're absolutely fucking right.

I step back, You're right?

So yeah, So I mean it was it was an incredibly talented crewer on Riley of course, fucking Riley, of course Riley, Jesus Riley was the best.

I lament that my relationship is not as strong with Mark as it was when we were there at Collider, you know, because I think Mark is one of the best dudes, and for whatever reason, we just you know, haven't maintained our friendship at the level that it was before.

You know.

But I see everything he's doing.

I see as kids, there's child weather and you know, his relationship, and I'm happy for him and the things he's working on.

It's you know, Mark's more of the best.

So it was always it was always fun working and I remember when we both you know, when Collider did us Dirty and we both were trying to start our own channels.

We would go on each other's show, right, We would visit each other and see the studio setups we were doing at the beginning, and Adam came over and helped Mark, you know, and I think he came over and helped me once, and so it was like it was it was so fun to have those common experiences.

After Collider let us go.

But dude, you look back or doing the ladies.

You look back now, that was such a fucking talented crew, Like the talent in that team.

How did you fuck that up?

That's what you gotta ask yourself.

This is that was a great team.

You got to say, how did the manager fuck that up?

You had Christian Ellis, Danny As as a recurring guest star, app Sock, Riley me a Cougar, Roxy, Dorena uh Fat in production, the wangers doing things behind the scenes with Adam uh Schnepp, Amy Dollen like how that Yeah, Alicia Malone, Alisha Malone who now of course is at TCM, you know, so happy for her at TCM.

How was a hell of a crew, bro?

How did you fuck that up?

How did you not understand?

Like if we had had better managers who understood YouTube, understood what to do?

Oh yeah, Perry as well, who understood what to do when the writers, I mean, don't think of the writers.

We had Hayley Fouch, we had Goldberg, we had Adam Uh, we had what's his fucking name, Victor?

Is it Victor?

I haven't thought of him in a long time.

Sorry, I don't remember the names, but yeah, the right even the writing crew who was there with us every day.

He was fucking great.

Man's right.

Manz would come in and do do stuff.

You know.

The Tiffany right, Tiffany was part of the crew.

She came over as a recurring situation because she didn't go full time at Collider.

But yeah, that was a crew.

That was Frank right, Frank, that was a crew man.

We were a crew.

Wendy, right, Wendy.

Look at how Wendy is blown up.

I'm so there is no one I'm happier for out of the old Collider crew than Wendy.

League like nobody.

I'm not happier for anybody more than I am for Wendy, because she is too She's she's too good of a person to say this, but I will say this, and I'm and I and and I'm telling the truth.

There were people higher up at Collider who were making the decisions who thought Wendy he wasn't a good personality on camera, and I thought they were wrong.

And when I got into a position where I could bring her onto mail Bag and on the movie talk, I lobbied hard to have her on to mail Bag and movie talk.

And you know why, because I know what it was like for people to not want to put you on stuff because they don't think you're good enough.

Like I remember having that experience.

I wasn't on certain reviews, I wasn't on certain shows because people felt I would like, they wouldn't let me be on Collider Heroes as a regular, Like they were like, no, no, We're going to bring other people on.

And I was always hurt by that because I fucking know just as much.

And so it was that kind of thing.

And so I so with Wendy, they thought, like certain people Blue Mark only saw her as the secretary or the appointment person.

But I knew Wendy had her YouTube channel on the side, and I would watch some shows and I'd be like, this is what the fuck a y'all talking about?

And so I made it a point to get Wendy on my on the shows I was hosting, you know, because I respected her work.

And so to see how after everything went down with Collide in the way she was treated by the end as well, and what her and Dustin have built on the movie couple, I mean, fuck man, that is amazing.

I'm so happy for her.

I'm so happy for how she's grown.

I hope she becomes even an even bigger voice in the world of film because she's such a good person.

Also, Wendy's also a person who like for as sweet as she is, if she doesn't like something or she thinks you're doing wrong, she'll fucking tell you.

And I've always appreciated that about Wendy.

She was always so good to me man at Collide.

When I was nervous and I was scared and I was emotional when it felt like I wasn't good enough, Wendy would take me for a coffee or a walk and we would just talk it out.

She was always so positive man, because I mean it was it was an intimidating crew to walk into, because I had to.

I had to fight my way to become a full time employee.

You know.

I had to convinced Mark to hire me, and Mark to as I said, to his credit, Mark did hire me, and I appreciated that, right.

But everybody kind of a lot of people saw me as kind of Christian's boy, So there was that kind of thing of well, I'm connected to Christian, so therefore, you know, I might be spying for Christian or I'm trying to possibly undercut certain people because Christian doesn't like them.

So there's a lot of that behind the scenes drama.

For all the greatness that we were on camera, there was a lot of behind this prescene suspicion and egos and questioning that went on.

But you know that's going to go on with any great team.

That's going to go on with any great team.

The problem is you had a leader in Mark who was telling people to spy on other people, and that is a way that you don't develop a trust in your fellow employee and a camaraderie amongst people.

I don't care.

I don't know how many times he told me, are you is Perry really doing what she says she's doing?

Is is Riley really really doing what he says he's doing?

And it was like always uncomfortable to have those conversations.

And I was always, yeah, they're working hard, They're always working I see them, They're always working hard.

But I'm sure he had other people spying on me, and I'm sure people spying a Christian and it was like report back to me all this kind of stuff.

So that isn't the way you lead people, and that's how you fumble a great team.

That's how you fumble that amount of talent.

And the fact that almost all of them are still doing stuff in this space speaks volumes to how much you fumble that fucking ball.

And I don't care what he says.

I don't care how he defends it.

Oh and Dennis Dennis as well, Let's not forget Dennis, who was great.

That's another member of the team.

So you know there were so many where they fumbled the ball, where he fumbled the ball on the whole situation.

You know so well you say Bateman, Bateman wasn't part of the crew.

Bateman was a guest star.

So I wouldn't mention Ben.

I don't think Ben.

I don't I don't even know what Ben is doing now hold on my moment knows no.

By the way, here's an open call, uh, if Ben was ever open to repairing our relationship.

I think enough years has gone by from that shmowdown situation where I would be open to opening the door to Ben, because I think I blocked him on Twitter years ago because of all that shit that went down at the end of the morning, because I mean Ben kind of went off the deep end with a lot of suspicion and a lot of like questions about things that were going on.

And you know, I don't want to speak out of turn because I don't want to reveal some things that were told to me confidence, but like it was a little bit, a little bit out there.

But looking back on it now five years later, it's like, well, yeah, because the pressure was so the pressure was so high, and a lot of his like his status in the Action Army was connected to how well he did on the show, right, and so there was a lot of well, I've got to make sure that this is the optimal setting for me to be able to do my best right.

And so now as an older person, I can look back at what Ben was doing, and although I may not support some of the things Ben did, I can also say I did some shit to try to, you know, give me a competitive advantage.

Like I never fucked anyone over or tried to you know, question anybody's ethics about writing questions or whatever.

But I certainly had my own things about how I went about doing stuff that rubbed people the wrong way.

So I can say, like, as a competitor myself, I have to create grace for how Ben was and look, we legitimately did not like each other eventually, like we initially it was it was beef that was played up a little bit with Matt and I against them, but then it became real, you know, and well, and we patched things up to do the Horsemen, and we really were supportive of each other.

Like I went over to Ben's house after he had the surgery and I sat with him for hours quizzing him before the match.

But it was when they pitted us against each other with the Dan Merle Ben Bateman, and that's when I think the Atlanta Shmotea is the thing that fractured us.

And to be fair, I should take responsibility for my part in that because I was kind of envious at the time of the situation.

I was envious that didn't have the belt.

I was envious that I wasn't a champion, and so through Dan I was kind of grinding my axe.

And then we worked on the Shmotown show together.

It was always like Ben was always like, it's my show, it's my show, and you're just You're just the caretaker.

And being an older person, I took that as that I was offended by that, you know, and so I took that in a personal way when I think if I had a little more of the self esteem and confidence that I have now, I'd have been like, yeah, show, it's your show.

Whatever, man, it's cool, I'm rolling with it.

No.

But I was like, no, I've got to look good in front of the fans.

I'm the outlaw.

I've got of this.

So I got caught up in that, you know, and so it caused So I can take responsibility for my part of it, for sure.

But it was all about competitive competition, and competition doesn't always breed the best out of people.

You know, Michael Jordan watched the Last Dance again and see how much shit he did to try to be a champion.

You know, those Tom Brady commercials are amazing, those recent NFL Tom Brady commercials when he is showing, like when they're showing regular people what it would like to be Tom, what it would like to be to be Tom Brady, there's a it's funny, but also there's also an element of truth in it.

Right when the new one with the woman who is trying to do the trivia with the nursing home and stuff and she walks out feeling underappreciated, and Tom goes winning is a lonely business, you know, and that I saw it the other day on during watching the games, I was like, oh fuck, that hit me like a diamond bullet, you know, because I remember when I beat Dan, people congratulated me.

But then I went and sat on a couch by myself and I just was I felt so alone, like I'd done it, but I wasn't carried out like if I had done in a live event.

I think it would have had a much more right now, there were people in the studio audience obviously saw even Bateman was clapping for me because that fact that we were cool with each other, and Rachel and my friend Shannon from the Gee Buddies was there, and it was an amazing experience.

But to have done it, but to have beaten Dan at a live event for the Belt, I think that would have been where I wouldn't have felt alone, like I would have been carried out.

That would have been amazing.

Right.

So it's just those little so I get it, and so I think there's there was a little bit of my ego and my desire to win.

Also, you know, self esteem issues about like hey, who am I, you know, and of course in twenty sixteen, that's when like all that stuff caught up with me and I almost took my own life, you know, and so but yeah, I mean I think now, all these years later, I would be down to repair that with Ben.

Maybe have him on the show.

Do maybe do an episode of the Truth with Ben and I reminiscing about our time in the showdown and maybe repairing our friendship or relationship at least to be you know, cordial or friendly with each other.

I would be I would be down with that instance the show becomes filled a team well you know, yeare fair fair, very fair.

Yeah, but yeah, I mean, I I don't but I you know, I don't know.

But I think Ben was on one of Christian shows, wasn't he on the Harlof show recently on in New York?

Like he was stopping by Because I think he's like really still knee deep into the magic the gathering stuff, right, He's still knee deep in the magic magic the stuff.

So yeah, yes, I mean, if someone, uh yeah, if someone wanted to, I'm not gonna do that, like I'm not.

I don't know where Ben is at with things.

So if someone wanted to broker that peace deal.

Someone wanted to be you know, bringing together the two powers of the Middle East to have a peace deal at Camp David with me and Ben.

I would be open to that.

Yeah, which is weird for me.

I didn't think I was going to say that tonight.

I didn't think I was going to open my mind up to any of that tonight.

But you know, I'm in that place where I'm getting older and like you're letting go of a lot of things that were frustrating for you at the time, you know.

So yeah, yeah, Ben does MTG right, exactly, the magic the gathering right?

Uh no, because then he gets all the financial benefit.

No way, if he was willing to pay us to do that, then I think that would be a lot of fun.

I think that would be a lot of fun to do that.

But no way, am I gonna let him get all the money from the reconciliation of me and Bet that he should totally host it.

But only if we like split the profits and all of that shit.

Uh well, this is Johnny's still friends of Mandels.

Oh yeah, I think yes.

I mean we never were friends when we were doing the show.

Like people don't.

People still don't accept that.

Like Matt and I never went out to dinner all the time.

I never went out to like, you know, movies.

We didn't text each other, hey, I saw something funny.

I mean occasionally we text each other about the NBA or stuff.

But no, Matt and I would never really like friends friends, do you know what I'm saying.

We were friendly, we're friends.

Like we worked on the show together.

We were respected each other's points of views, and we made the show work.

And but like when we went to Chicago, like we didn't go out to eat or go out to dinner or do anything.

And when we went to London, we didn't hang out after We hung out with everybody who to see us in London, but Matt and I didn't, you know, hang out after that.

And so we had a good partnership and it worked for the show, and I do miss that show.

I've thought about asking Matt if he would love to come back and do the Top ten again, like once a month on my channel, and I would pay him because we had such great chemistry.

But you know, in the end, he didn't want to keep doing a show with me, and I think he's happier doing the show he's doing, and our I mean top ten had fizzled out.

You know, I was the one that brought it up and said to him, listen, we got it.

You're happier doing the movie score show.

You should just keep doing that.

Whenever we're making on the Patreon.

Both of us can make up that money in other areas of our lives.

We don't have to keep doing the show and talking about the same movies, the same lists.

Because I wanted to change the show into what I have with Winston or what I have with with Jeff.

I wanted to have a show where it was me and at talking about the entertainment stories of the day.

I think that would have been the natural next step for us, and I think we could have revitalized the show and we could have started touring again live once COVID was over.

It's very possible.

But he didn't want to do that, and that's Matt's Matt's prerogative.

You know, I don't I'm not mad at Matt.

I don't fault mad at all.

He just didn't want to keep going with the show in that direction, and I think that's he has every right to make that decision for himself, you know, and in the end, it just was what it was.

And yeah, we'd had a couple we'd had a few battles through the years because Matt's a different personality than I am.

But Matt, I'll tell you this right now, Ndred, I give Matt one hundred percent credit for this.

I don't think the show would have achieved the things it achieved without Matt, like honestly, not just because it's co hosts.

Like Matt handled some of the business side of things that I didn't know too much about.

Because Matt was a touring comic.

So when we started doing live shows, Matt was great at like, let's set up these Facebook pages, Let's see how many people are saying they'll show up.

Let's see how many tickets we can, and then we can set up like a tour.

And then he was the one talking with the venues, Like he would ask me, like, what do you what do you want to have?

What do you want to do?

What's thisens look good?

And so he would run things by me.

But Matt was very much in charge of setting that stuff up and he was great at it, right, he was great at it.

Like we would have never toured live if it wasn't for Matt.

Like the LA Show, I think I took the initiative on that with Stacy.

Stacey was very kind to offer us that theater there for the LA Show.

But then the response from the LA Show people, I came from Canada, people came from New York to see us.

That gave us like the inspiration to try to go to other countries, you know, and it was great and Matt was I mean, Matt was great at that.

I'm in our of London Show.

I'm telling you, dude, listen.

I know people think sometimes I'm a cocky, arrogant person or whatever and all that shit, but I mean sometimes in certain things, yes, I will admit I'm a fucking saint, but the London Show, honestly is one of the most humbling things I've ever experienced in my life, Like utterly humbling.

And I also think we were we were in our fucking prime man.

I had have put our show against any show.

I had gone toe to toe with Howard Stern, Joe Rogan, all those fucking guys.

I think the Top ten show at its peak, with our chemistry, we would have beaten anybody.

I honestly believe that we had natural chemistry.

We never talked about the topics ahead of time.

Everything came up organically, Honestly, we never talked about shit ahead of time.

Even the London Live show, that all came up organically.

If you ever listened to the episode again, like none of that was talked about ahead of time.

Everything was off, like we riffed off each other really well.

And that and maybe in being not being like friends friends like fully friends, it allowed that to be fresh because we didn't know what each other thought about certain subjects as they came up, so we were naturally organically reacting to them in the shows and people love that, you know.

And I think we had a respect for each other and alike for each other enough to do the show, which is what came through in those in the banter, in the back and forth in the in the in the comments.

So but yeah, you know, and it was so much fun to do the show with him when we were at our peak, which is why like I ended the show when I did, and because I said to Matt, I said, in a straight up I said to him, and I probably said it to him to a bit too aggressively, but I just was like, Matt, you're happier doing Settle the Score, you should just keep doing that.

Like we're holding on doing this show, and it's neither one of us are one hundredercent happy about doing it.

We're hitting the bongos and all, like we're just going through the motions.

The last six months, six eight months, we've gone and our Patreon kept dropping and dropping and dropping, and so eventually the signs go, look they're not interested anymore and we're not willing to reinvent the show.

Matt was great at times.

I think we both suggested stuff to improve the show.

But Matt like suggested really interesting like the Golden Ticket, Settle the what was it.

I think it was called the Golden Ticket.

That was so much fun having the fans contribute and do it.

Like those are the ideas that he came up with that kept the show fresh and they were a lot of fun, you know, and fans loved I loved the show.

I mean people would send some of the most amazing things and sent some of the most amazing letters.

And remember when they were when you all were sending gifts, like when we were getting those gifts those were again, all of it was so supremely humbling.

But that London show I think was the peak at the top ten.

That was like the peak.

Everything after that was a little bit of a steady decline.

But like the London show, people from thirteen countries came to see a couple of idiots like me and Matt do a live show in London for foxing two hundred people.

We had two hundred and twenty people who came to see the show.

We sold out the place or we filled the place.

I don't know if we sold that.

We filled the place all the way to the back row, mind blow.

And it wasn't like a small club like we did in Chicago, like it was a big auditorium in London at one of the premier places in London to do shows and concerts.

You know, to this day, I still can't believe it happened and went off the way it did.

And we had such a great crowd, and again we played off that crowd really well and did our countdown, you know, and both of our significant others came with us to experience, and that was my first trip with the Lady Outlaw outside the country, and we had only gotten together a few months before, like a few months before.

And you know, Matt was there with his wife.

He was an amazing woman.

So you know, it was a hell of an experience for sure.

Uh says London was the shark and jump the shark.

Yeah, well I don't think we jumped the shark.

I just think we never could reach that peak again.

But it wasn't because we got cheesy.

Like that's what jump in the Shark means.

As they got cheesy, we didn't.

We didn't bring on a new kid, a new child to try to get the audience as sympathy.

We never did that, you know.

So but yes, London was the peak.

Yeah, the Golden Ticket, that's what it was called.

Oh my god, my friend Griffin just texting me.

Griffin, I hope you don't mim if I read your text.

He said, listen to listening to you reminists about the Collator days.

Man, you're reminded me so much of the personalities the shows I used to watch in late high school and throughout college.

You guys really were such an inspiration for me starting out, and the crew and everything you guys built, the personalities, the regular program, the Insight dude, you guys really were the apex of film commentary, news coverage, criticism.

I do miss those days, even when aspired to work it, even even aspired to work at Collider when it was the place it used to be before I really understood the business.

Yeah, all this is to say is that you should be insanely proud of your work there and on the Top ten show and continued work on the Centophiles.

Great to see you all prosper on your own in your own distinct ways.

But man, there really was something special about the mid to late two thousands when Collider Video was booing, Yeah, you're hundredercent r one hundred percent right, brother, And I'm proud to have you as a friend, and I'm proud to see your growth, bro.

I mean where you're doing the things you're doing over there at Film Theory and the other places.

Awards watched there with Eric All.

I think that's right, all the places you're doing stuff.

Man, I'm just really proud the interviews you're getting.

You know, Chris, You and Chris Killian are the two people that I'm like cheering for so much on the sidelines because I think you guys are good energies out in the space.

I think you really care about the creatives and getting good conversations, and also think you both have that kind of nervous humbleness about you that makes your videos have a real authenticity to them.

Now you can You've also very strong in your opinions when you're talking about movies, but with the interviews, there's a nice like kind of openness to you and what Chris does over at combook movie dot combook dot com.

So I appreciate watching you guys.

Uh shiit uh my battery is running out of my computer.

Uh oh, ship, y'all, I might I might have to call this hold on.

Let me see what I can do.

Let me put up a screen here because I know, let me see if I can find a plug.

I'll be right back.

Give me give me thirty seconds.

Okay yeah, h h h all right, christ has averted it is plugged in, so anyway, Yeah, that's very kind of Griffin.

One of a griff, sorry Griffin, and Griffin one of my favorite guys out there.

So uh yeah, I should probably intermission.

Well yeah, so there you go.

Listen.

I was going to talk about the Golden Globes and talk about the UH Critics' Choice Awards.

But I mean, I've been going for two and a half hours.

Will you guys be mad if I don't talk about it or do you want me to talk about it?

Let me let me know in the comments.

I'm open to it all.

No, not Griffin Newman.

Not Griffin Newman.

I never had a good relationship with grip Well.

I never had a relationship with Griffin.

I didn't really know Griffin that much.

But I've been talking with two and a half hours and I have no new super chets, none, none.

Wow, guys, I've been talking over an hour and there was no contributions to all the behind the scenes tea and stuff that I've been spilling here.

No superstickers, no card nothing.

Oh my god, I gave you all that for free.

Oh my god.

Let's see.

Yeah there's oh, Karen said one, and Karen's at John.

Are you looking forward the last episode of Welcome to Dry Persley.

I'm loving the show.

Thanks, Yeah, I'm looking forward to it for sure.

I hope the new one come.

I hope the I hope the boys can review it in the next couple of days, so hopefully we'll do it either tomorrow or Wednesday, and we'll also catch up on what do you call it, pluribus pluribus as well.

So yeah, yeah, so yeah.

Golden Globes.

I guess we can talk about it real quick.

If people want to send stuff in, I'll come back.

Yeah.

Golden Globes nominations were this morning, and so were the Critics' Choice nominated.

Uh I am a member of the Critics Choice.

I think the biggest the biggest things you can talk about is what went on with uh with Wicked on the Golden Globe side of things.

Wicked for Good not being nominated for Best Musical Comedy.

That is really surprising when you look at it.

Sidney Sweeney not being nominated for Best Actress in a Drama That should tell you everything you need to know about her quote unquote apology the other day about the genes that listen, this this situation.

You got to be honest about the situation, right, I mean like you got to tell the truth about the situation, and that is that she has had four flops in a row or three flops in a row, and if if the house was a housemaid and whatever it's called, housemaid doesn't do well in a couple of weeks, then that'll be a fourth flop in a row.

Uh.

And I think she was feeling herself with her math stuff and her you know, teasing the red State side of things, and people loving her because you know, she's attractive.

People find her atract I don't find her, but I know people do find her attractive.

Uh.

And so she thought she could carry the day.

Well, people aren't showing up to your movies, and guess what come, guess what the commodity is in Hollywood, people showing up to your movies.

If they stop showing up to your movies, you stop having power in Hollywood.

And so I think this.

I think what the apology that she'd give gave the other day was brand saving her going on the family feud, for God's sakes, the celebrity family feud is also pr brand saving to try to make her seem wholesome and relatable and connectable, because I think they know that that interview she did was an utter trade wreck, and her just looking at the reporter when she asked about the white supremacy thing like to come out now and be like, well, of course I stand against hate.

I'm not in support of hate.

I don't want to what the fuck man, that's all.

You could have done that right there in the GQ interview.

You could have done that.

When the controversy broke broke off, you could have absolutely come out and said, I want to say this from the beginning.

There was not an intention to have that be the message of the campaign.

For people who are taking it this way.

I hear what you're saying, but that wasn't where I was going.

Please respect.

I do not promote hate.

I don't like hate, and I would never say that.

But what I believe is that they did this on purpose her team because they were feeling their maga selves and they thought they could be that maga energy in Hollywood because they've seen so many of these companies Genue, Fleck and Bend the need of Trump.

But we were talking at the beginning of the show Ted sarahis visiting Trump to try to smooth the Netflix purchase of wb Over and Ellison.

It's definitely in bed with Trump.

The Ellison's in bed with Trump.

So and you've seen ABC pay Trump, CDs pay Trump, all these people pay Trump and give worship.

So I think they thought they could they could be the rebel outlaw in the Hollywood community and be maga.

And you can't be the rebel outlaw if no one's coming to see your fucking movies, because then at that point you're no different than Kevin Sorbo or Dean k.

No one goes to see their movies anyway either.

So that's the situation that I think she found herself in.

And so for her now to come out and go, well, of course I was againstate, of course I would never That's not my point.

She could have said that as soon as it blew up.

But they wanted to ride out the controversy for attention, for status, and it blew up in their faces.

And so now you see her, you know, asking for her the apology or you know, begging people to essentially come back and support her because of what Wentellen meant that it's not as it's not as liberal of a town as people think, but it's still a liberal town, you know.

Ja Kelly also not getting nomination I think was really surprising.

A lot of people thought Jay Kelly would be one of the dark horse candidates to slide in there and get a nomination, and it didn't.

One that I know, Jeff is going to talk about on the hot mic is the snubbing of the Is This Thing On?

That's a damn good movie, and I also thought it was one of those character pieces that could maybe slide in and get a nomination but didn't.

Now it doesn't mean it won't get a nomination or j Kelly won't.

I won't get an Oscar's nomination, but it is kind of surprising and didn't make the cut for the Golden Globes, and then Laura Dern, who was great in that movie, also didn't even get a nomination.

If you haven't seen Is This Thing On?

I highly recommend you don't have to see in the theater, although if you want to see a theater, told support you've seen in theater.

It's definitely a movie you can watch it home.

But it's a good movie and I really liked it, and I thought Brett.

I thought will Arnett pulled what we've seen other comics do, like Jim carry Rob Williams.

He played drama really well and in a way that was very relatable.

And so I highly recommend you guys seeing it.

If you haven't seen it, it's a damn good movie and the only person I don't.

The only character I did in one hundred percent like in the movie was Bradley Cooper's character.

But I mean, I think he had to put himself in the movie to get the funding for the movie, so I totally respect that.

But the character really was kind of a useless character in the film, to be honest.

His wife was much more interesting than he was, and maybe that was a choice by Bradley, like I'm gonna play the weird character who is kind of on the periphery of all of this shit, so I don't take attention away, and that may be what was going on there.

But I think the film has a great commentary on relationships and a great commentary on how we view relationships, how we interpret relationships, and it's a really it's a and how we can learn to listen to someone, even after we've been with them for twenty years, how we can find a way to learn to listen to them again and hear what they're saying and respect where they're coming from even if you don't agree with them.

And I think that was a really powerful message coming through the movie.

Superman being left out of the cinematic and box office achievement category was also surprising, especially because Avatar Fire and Ash was in that category and Avatar Fire and Ash hasn't even come out yet, so how can it qualify for the Cinematic and box Office Achievement category is kind of mind blowing.

Maybe I didn't know that in Golden Gloves you can be nominated for something you're going to do in the future, because I'm sure people think it's gonna make all kinds of money in the box office, so they're putting it in for the future.

I guess, so whatever.

But Jacob Elordi getting nominated for as a creatre and Frankenstein, I was very happy that.

I love Jacob.

I thought he was great in the movie.

I still think it's Sean Penn's to win, but I mean, Benizio seems to be coming on and I wouldn't be upset if Jacob won it because I think he's he is.

Frankeustein is good.

I love Frankenstein regardless of my on Gelmrad Torris speaking about movies and theaters while we're giving for Netflix, frank Stin is an excellent movie, and I think a Lordie is the person to get nominated for that movie.

For sure, although I think Ascar does a great job, but he is the most incredible part of that movie and what he does and how he progresses through the film all the way to the end.

He's heartbreaking as the creature, I mean heartbreaking.

That scene with him and the old man, that whole sequence was fucking amazing.

And then the scene at the end, I mean the father son stuff at the end, Jesus Christ.

I was in tears, tears at the end of the I've seen the movie three times now because of I just love the majesty of Gammel del Toro telling this story, and the costume design, the sets like Crystal Walltz is great, and then you get to that and then the progression of their relationship, and just like I was talking about earlier, you know, the the arrogance of competition, the drive of competition when you have a hearty belief in yourself, and the humility that you must learn to embrace when the thing you created has brought out the monster in you.

And that is amazing, you know, And so I thought that was a great message from the movie as well.

Yeah, A House of Dynamite didn't get any nominations from for Catherine Bigelow for Netflix.

That was really surprising.

I liked that movie, you know, I know the third act is some people don't like the third act.

I didn't mind the third act.

I like movies that are ambiguous.

But yeah, that's a big surprise that it didn't get nominated either, because people like Catherine Bigelow people, especially in the industry.

So but maybe that's a Netflix thing.

Maybe that's another shot at Netflix, you know.

And that's another thing about the merger.

Maybe this is a way for Netflix to finally get a little bit of credibility.

If they buy Warner Brothers, no all goes through and they start putting out Warner Brothers films in the theaters and respecting theatrical windows for the big films and maybe some of the medium sized films.

That could change people's attitudes towards Netflix in the industry.

For award shows, and no matter what Netflix acts like and what Sarando says, they want oscars, they wouldn't be submitting their films for oscars that they didn't want oscars.

They want to win them.

And so maybe by being a part of the old Hollywood system with w B, they'll borrow some of that credibility for themselves in their project, and they find themselves winning awards in ways they didn't in the past.

That's very possible because people vote.

People in the industry vote for them.

And so if you're gonna threaten their industry by shortening theatrical windows by sending a lot of movies to streaming, you're not gonna get nominated for shit and you're not gonna win shit.

And it's just the honest truth.

So I think this is a way of maybe just repairing those bridges a little bit.

We'll see.

We'll see.

Yeah, no Gilded Age nominations, which is surprising for a lot of people, Like it's that HBO show, especially Kerry Coon is so great on that show.

And then Amanda Seafree get nominated for Long Bright River, which I didn't see on Peacock, but I hear good things about.

I should give that thing a shot for sure.

Helen Mirren get nominated for mob Land, she was fucking great and then settling it Moblin, I don't think.

Yeah, women Masako being snubbed for Sinners, that's frustrating.

I thought she was great in Sinners, so I don't understand why she was snubbed in Sinners, and I also don't think, yeah, I don't, I don't know.

I might put her in over Tiana Taylor, you know, not that I need to move out a black woman for a black woman, but like thinking, right off hand, I love Tianna in the movie, but I just feel like she was only in a little bit of the movie.

Now.

I know time doesn't matter, I get that, but it's not like Judy Dench.

It's a different type of thing.

Although Judy Densher is not in the movie for more than what nine minutes and Shakespeare in Love, the energy of Judy Densher is all over that movie the whole time, and it's not quite the same thing in One Battle because Chase kind of fills that role.

If DiCaprio had spent a majority of the movie trying to find Tana Taylor, then that's a whole another ballgame, because her energy is all over the movie.

But she disappeared such a long stretch of time, whereas Woman Masako was all throughout Sinners.

It is an essential part of that movie working, you know, so I think she deserved it more.

Blue Moon earning a Best Picture nod, that one from Mitchell link Lend with Ethan Hawke really surprising for me.

Rachel said, it didn't make the cut for I Love LA.

I'm not surprised.

That's a divisive show.

It has its fans, so it's getting a second season.

But you know that show is a tough watch for those of us who are of a certain age.

It's like either PTSD from living in La or these characters are not that not characters you necessarily want to watch on the show.

So yeah, K Pop Demon Hunters gets a nod for box office achievement, even though it was only the box office for a couple of weeks.

So very weird.

Golden Gloves are so weird.

Like I don't want to talk too much shit because I hope one day I could be hired to work for the Golden Globes to be a critic on the movie though, because that's like six figures and you watch movies all year.

Heybe, I'll do it in a heartbeat.

But yeah, it's confusing.

Catherine Nas and Sean ANDOZI snub for the pit right.

A lot of people were surprised by that because Sean.

I think Sean won an Emmy for his work on the pit.

But I think maybe as a director or producer, not necessarily as as an actor.

So yeah, Third Knives Out movie didn't make the cut again, possibly a Netflix slub.

The Girlfriend was nominated and Robin Wright as well.

Ashley Walters was nominated for Adolescence.

That was good to see because she was so great as the mom.

And I recently saw, because you guys know, I'm an anglophile, I recently saw a show that's on to be if you guys have to me, and that's free.

That's an app that's free.

You can download an Apple TV on Roku.

It's a great show called Wolf that is on to b W O l F E and it stars the actor from from Alien Earth, the guy who played the cyborg.

Is that right, the guy played the sideboard.

He is the lead of that show Wolf.

What's his name again, Yes, Bobus.

He is great on that show.

And Natalia Tenna from About a Boy and Harry Potter, she is his wife slash ex wife on the show.

And he's leading a team of detectives on the show.

And Ashley Walters is great on that show as someone who has an interest in him but also someone who is calling him out on his bullshit throughout.

So it's a fun little six episode detective show.

But there are they are forensics people, and so the way they approach crime scenes are completely different.

But it's an unusual show that I really like.

So so yeah, I enjoyed that.

Now what about critics choice?

Let me see, let's let's finish off with critics choice.

Is there critics a choice thing where they talk about some of the snubs?

Oh?

No, here we go, yes, yes, is that right?

Although theo's that's a golden glow.

All right, let me find the critics choe stuff and then we'll wrap up here.

Also because I put it in a rundown Kelsey Grammar.

Yeah, what a moronic thing to say, to say that Trump is one of the greatest presidents ever.

I mean, as I tweeted out, the man's got to toss salad and scrambled eggs for brains.

Now to say stuff like that.

And I love I love Frasier like Fraser is probably my second or third favorite sitcom ever.

Like ever, I still watch reruns all the time because that's such an incredibly well written and well acted show.

Tight show.

But yeah, it's to say dumb shit like that.

It's just I don't know.

It just didn't make any sense to me because there's been a lot of divisiveness.

His poll numbers are going down, and so it's just a shame, all right, So I guess there's not okay nominations.

Yeah, I mean the critic's choice is pretty much spot on.

Christian and I covered it don the Christian Harlove Show, so if you want to see her thoughts on that, it was pretty spot on.

I'm happy for Marty Supreme.

That's I think Hamnet one battle after another and Marty Supreme my top three right now that are battling for position.

And I think, in my opinion, if either one of those three wins Best Picture, I'm not gonna complain.

I think there are issues with Sinners.

I think there are issues with I don't know how we can for good.

I don't understand that.

But whatever it got nominated for Best Picture, I don't understand that it will not get it out.

If that gets the Best Picture Oscar nomination, I'll be surprised.

I'll be really surprised.

Charlamague for Best Actor.

Absolutely, I think he's gonna win this thing.

Although I'm very happy to see Joel Edgerston nominate for Training Dreams.

If you've got to watch the Man that's on Netflix, highly recommend Trained Dreams.

It is such a moving piece.

For those of you who might be Terrence Malick fans, it's Terrence Malick, but with a through line.

It's not Terrence Malick all over the places as recent films have been.

It's Terrence Malick with a through line.

Superiod piece for Listeny Jones.

Is Dan Good in it as well, And it's a commentary on living life when you've come from a situation that isn't that great.

And he's a character who is very quiet as he processes and progresses like he observes life, and then he loses or experiences some tragedy, and just where he's about to get swallowed up by that tragedy, he discovers a new appreciation and so highly recommend the movie.

It's so good.

Yeah, Wagner Mora for a Secret Agent might win.

A lot of people think he's a dark horse.

Best actress Jesse Buckley certainly is going to win in my opinion, but a lot of people thought rose Byrne give a run for money.

So we'll see it to pre be those two battling it out.

Best Supporting Actor one battle after another.

Del Toro is coming on a lord's grave, Mescal, Yes, Sean Penn Adam Sandler's Guard's guard.

Yeah.

I still think Sean Penn's to lose, but I wouldn't be surprised now, Like as Jeff has been saying for quite some time, that Del Toro made slide in and steal this thing from it.

It's very possible, especially when you watch that Actors on Actors with him and Julia Roberts.

Oh, that was a bit of a train wreck.

Best Bording Actress el Fanning, Ariana Grande inga Ib's daughter Lily as from Sentiment of Value, Amy Madigan weapons I the game you should win.

I don't know what people are talking about.

I think that's a damn good performance and it should win.

The Oscar good to see, Woomy Masak would be nominated for Critics Choice, and Tanna Taylor, so I like that all of them are in that category as well.

Best Director pta Ryan Coogler, Del Toro, Josh Safti, Joaquing Trier, Cloju No surprise, those are all the best films of the year, So no Surprise are nominated for Best Director.

Yeah, and so good stuff.

They're good, I know, not really a lot of complaints about critics choice.

Very proud.

Not everything I voted for got in, but a lot of what I voted for got in, and so I'm very proud of that list overall.

All Right, Well, I think that's Amy Amy Amy, Yeah, yeah, Amy Madigan exactly?

Is haimnt good?

Yes, it's fucking excellent, dude, It's excellent.

Heiman is excellent.

All right, So adel Roy, though I would have liked to see him, I thought he was snubbed too.

I would like to see him get in there.

Delroy is so good.

I don't disagree with you.

I think you move.

I think you move Paul Muscalat and move Delroy Lindo.

It not that Mescal didn't do a good job with him meet, but I've seen Paul act in other things, and I think Paul delivered a solid, strong performance.

But it was there to elevate Jesse Buckley, and I don't think what he did separate was necessarily as powerful worthy of a nomination.

I'm not complaining.

I'm just saying that I don't necessarily think it was better than what Delroy did in Sinners, which is a much more attention for everything.

All right, let's see these last super chats streamlains, we'll get on out of here.

Is I've been on for two overs four to three hours for Fox's sake, Jay Scott a real supersticker that you, Jay, I appreciate you, brother, Dougan o'nims says, I love this trip down memory lane.

Do you see yourself pulling a Dan and Christiana returning home to Virginia and doing your show close to the family.

No.

I love my mom, I love my sister, I love my brother and my family.

That's there.

But Virginia is not the state for me anymore.

I'm happy where I'm at here, and I think, honestly, the next move will be overseas.

I think that's something the Lady out I have really talked about a lot.

Moving to England is very much a real possibility for us, but it would have to be the right situation.

We probably have to plan out for the next five years to make that happen.

So I think that would be the plan going forward if that happened.

If that happen, I mean, that's such a pipe dream.

So many more things would have to fall into place financially for us to make the move to England and work wise as well.

But it's certainly something we've considered and talked about.

But no, I mean, unless something happens with my mom that I need to move back, it's not really something that I'm thinking about.

I think about moving back to LA and more than I thinking about moving back to Virginia for sure.

Drew S is thanks John, this is all great content.

Oh thank you, Drew.

I appreciate that.

John Wallace just says hello, thank you, johnppreciate you, man, thank you for saying hello.

John Burkhardt from one former Master Control Operated to another.

Respect Yeah, you remember the salad days of that shit man commercial hit the button commercial them, Oh it got stuck.

It's not playing shit shit shit, Oh man, those days.

John also says you need to you need to talk louder because my wife is yelling at the Eagles.

Yes they are losing.

Oh shit, did they lose?

Did the Eagles lose?

I didn't even see.

Oh no, they're winning right now over the Chargers.

Oh thank god.

It didn't start Herbert tonight and I started, Well, then I gotta started Patrick only got eight points.

Uh.

Secular Monk sixty five twenty seven says, what if the future of physical media if the Netflix merger goes through as a physical media collector, losing WB and alts movies will kill Blue Rice bro It's been going that direction anyway.

Like, I don't know what to tell you to hold on to things that are I have lived through eight tracks and laser discs, you know, like those things go out.

I remember, remember when Spielberg and Lucas had a program where you could buy a disc and watch the movie, and after twenty times the disc would stop working.

Remember that.

I remember that technology.

I've lived through it all man, And if people are no longer buying it, they're going to stop making it, just as if people aren't no longer going to movie theaters are great numbers, movie theaters are going to start closing.

It's always about the public demand.

And so you may you may want this to keep going, but the truth is there aren't a lot of physical media people.

And no matter how much people yell about physical media and yell at other people to get physical media, if people don't want to get physical media, they're not going to get physical media.

No matter how much you yell.

And so eventually it is going to die out.

It's going to be select titles.

It's not going to be everything, and it shouldn't be everything, by the way, and that's the way it's going to go, you know.

And it's unfortunate.

I am a collector of physical media.

I do not own anything digitally except for like, you know, Top Gun or something on the computer, which I got years ago.

But I think it's like seven.

I have The Town, Top Gun and like The Incredibles and four other movies.

I think Apple USA is on there randomly.

I've got like seven eight movies digital on the computer.

But everything else I have is physical media.

And I will be moving those bookcases behind me so that we'll have a physical media kind of display behind me as well in the near future when I finally buy the wall slats and make the move for the look of the new look of the of the of the studio.

But yes, so eventually it is going to go away, you know.

I mean best by the fact that best Buy isn't like completely got rid of their physical media, that should tell you something.

Costco stopped selling physical media years ago, and so those are those indicators.

It's not because they're like, we don't want to give it to you.

It's because not enough of you are buying it, so why should we keep sinking costs into making it.

That's the unfortunate truth of things, and that's where it's going right now.

You know, physical media is for everyone.

I know it is.

I know it is, all right, and let's seef we've got any so many super any streamlines that come through.

No, no on the streamlines.

All right, let's wrap it up here.

Thank you guys so much for hanging out with me tonight.

I went way over what I anticipated.

I only want to go on for two hours.

I went to two hours forty five minutes.

But I hope you don't mind it.

And as I said, this is start preparing yourself.

This is going to be a regular occurrence.

Hopefully a lot of you will start showing up consistently when I do these live shows, because I essentially want to become like drive Time for you guys, like Christians in the morning.

I want to own the drive time slot, maybe three to six every day or four to six every day, because I don't want to stop by six so I can go to screenings but that is kind of my thought pattern as we go into the new year.

It's a challenging decision, but it's something I want to kind of challenge myself to do and see how far I can take it, and challenge myself to create new segments, bring on guests, talk about other topics.

This is the truth, so it isn't just entertainment, and I want to be able to because I think our world is becoming a much more melded world where the lines are much more brelerry or between politics and entertainment and sports and all this stuff, like I think and the world affairs.

I think all of it is bleeding into itself or seeing that now.

So talking about all of it, giving myself a place to talk about all of it and hearing from you all, I think it would be great.

And that might be a way to explore YouTube memberships as well, which is something I really want to open the door to as well, another avenue for doing that.

It's good.

So yes, So thank you guys.

You guys have been amazing.

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I appreciate any help I could do for you guys.

So yeah, one hundred percent.

So we will see what So look for announcements coming soon and I'll probably fold Spill the Tequila into it, so it would be like the job would be the truth and then spill the Tegula would come on like an hour after the show started, and then Winds to Night would do our regular Spill the Tequila show, and then I would stay on like a half an hour afterwards to kind of wrap things up after Winston left.

So that would be the plan.

Now.

I think the only night we wouldn't do that is the Hot Mic night, which is Thursday night, so that'll stay its own thing.

But every other night, I think I'm going to try to do a live show, and on the weekends, I'm going to try to do content for the weekends as well, like two videos a week, two videos a day on the weekend as well.

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