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It's a green summer.

Yeah, we built differently.

He ain't watching the games.

I I'm watching it now, you'm outside.

We're alive.

That's when you stop.

We go back and we want.

So Look today, guys, I got a goating for you.

Had to tap in his Thanksgiving.

First off, happy things giving to everybody.

I want everybody to be safe out there.

But today was about Mike Bibby Team Dodge stingers up.

Yeah, I don't know.

They told me to shout that out right.

Well you look Sack State's coach is in full effect.

Man, I got the tap in with him.

Y'all check the seller.

What up, Mike nice?

What's going on?

You got going on?

The fund set up?

Might look like me, might look like me.

This is why we had to have kids, you feel me?

Look this why you gotta have kids.

My podcast shits set up in here.

I was trying to see if I could get on.

I'll not to flip this, mouk.

Look look you're looking like a dad in this.

Motherfucker.

Go get your kids can't even see your ass.

Turn away.

See look, turn away from the light, turn to look ship falling?

Look god the ball shot ball shot?

Sh oh ship?

Oh you know, broke this ship?

You don't get your kids, man, Mike, ship sideways?

Man, Mike, you gotta.

Are you.

There?

We go?

There we go?

There we go?

Did my phone get bit like that?

I'm not to hold it.

This is some production here, boy, your kids and what Look I feel seventy years older.

Okay, all right, I'm gonna try to come back in.

All right, what in the fuck is going Mike, I'll be down.

I'm gonna try it out.

Hey, listen, man, catch a flight right now and go a heelp Mike till Mike.

We be there in forty five minutes.

Man, what in the fuck is going on?

Cause?

Was it?

You know?

I need to down in back.

It's going down the back, down in back.

That's it down in back man?

Oh man, Mike, that's it down?

Hey, oh shit, just leave it like that like that.

Take it.

Look we're putting church on the flight right now.

Is it not that right?

Here?

Can y were just tapping in?

Man?

We ain'tn't even know shit, man, I just wanted to tap in with you.

You know what I'm saying, what's going on ain't nothing, man.

Just tapping in with you.

Man, know you got to see and stuff going.

I know you probably you know y'all had the game.

Congratulations on the game last.

Night, appreciate it.

The coach trying to get trying to get these kids to play the right way man, you know, to draw kick.

Don't want to tap that anymore these days, you know what I mean.

It's where it's like, you know, you know I can't you could, okay if I draw this, man, Ray Allen gonna have a wide open three over here.

The kids don't do that anymore, So we're trying to get them in the motive.

If you got three kids on you, you gotta be able to come in here and make plays for other people.

So the first time here, you know, we played six games so far, sorry eight, and that's the first game that we've done that so far.

As far as I think, we had like twenty something assists.

I mean, it was a D two school.

But the kids are throwing improving, you know what I mean.

So that's all you could ask for.

Man.

Earlier in this season, our big guy went down.

We don't know when he'll be back.

So you know when that when somebody goes down, you know, somebody got a step up, so we gotta look for somebody to step up.

Yeah, you know how that go though.

Opportunity is always with the man who waiting, you know what I'm saying for everybody on the team wants to play.

So yeah, So would you say a lot of your coaching is a lot of development.

When y'all go through drills, it's about just really putting it on the ground, playmaking playing the way y'all.

Want to play.

Yeah, that too, but they also got to I mean, we show a lot of film, but they also got to be disciplined.

You know, a lot of these kids aren't discipline anymore.

As far as we had to take her to the to the point of, you know, we do a drill, you know, after we'll run, we've had to change it to in the middle of the drill, y'all got to get on the line if she ain't going right, just to get them the mode of Okay, that's that's three methods gonna line.

Man.

The three run.

You got three sprints.

Now the kids get to like, come on, man, stop messing up.

Now now they get to the point of now they get to not to mess up so they could finish the drill.

When we first started, it was like, Okay, we run the drill.

I'm gonna count how many mistakes you make?

Seven mistakes at the end, we gotta run seven sprints.

And we changed it so it's a lot better once we changed it to where now after you make the mistake, now they see, okay, running right away is a lot better than running after the drill.

You know what I mean.

So, I mean, like the whole thing with them is like they're coming from a lot of different places kg to where no one really cared about them, no one taught them anything, and it's I mean, I've heard I've heard a kid on the team stays, I've never been taught to it.

I've never been taught to jump to the ball.

I've never been taught to to do nothing.

So I mean we're behind the eight ball right now as far as like, we started recruiting late and we've had a lot of weeks with them, but we haven't had everybody practice and stuff yet.

So we're working.

Man, I know, you got so many rules and stuff too.

Man, Yeah, I like your team though.

Man, you got a scrappy team.

Man, we got a scrappy team before the Big Fellow went down.

Man, I thought you had all the parts you need to be successful.

Give a shit of somebody a D two D four with the way to portal works and how talent is sporadic anyways, man, and so sporadic in different parts of the world.

You can play somebody who got some game in D two D three and you wouldn't even know it, You know what I'm.

Saying, Yeah, for sure, for sure, And I mean we got a really athletic team.

The way I want them to play is get in the passing lanes and get out in the open courter and use our athleticism, have the defense on their heels and play.

But you get these situations where it's like, why liquor man, catch the ball, the guy's looking to pass it to your guy.

He's looking at you to pass it, getting the pass and lanes where he can't maybe get a steal.

Now he doesn't pass it, he goes the other way.

You did your job.

We're trying to instill stuff like that into the kids who're like, don't let your guy catch the ball like the ball go right past the kids' face, and then he'll play defense.

I'm telling him, put this man out, you get a steal.

I want to ask you something, what examples y'all showing these kids of the stuff that y'all want?

Did you bring in I know I'm dated when I bring in Rob and I talk about pipping that talk about guys that I know this that unbelievable lot of a movement.

Right when you're talking about when you're talking about what you're saying in your mind, Mike, me and you talking here me and your mind, you're seeing the person that you're talking about.

So when I say, I want you to deny the wing like it's Scottie Pippen, or I want you to deny the wing like it's Draymond Green, I want you to, you know, be able to put that coventing defense on somebody you know, you know who you got in mind?

Like when you.

Speaking to these players, what examples are you giving these players?

Because you gotta give them some examples, Mike.

You can't just give them the liberty that they know what you're talking about.

You gotta show them.

You got to literally show them and check this check out Dinnis Robbins.

Watch how you deny this wing?

Watch how you ride to pick over?

Right here?

Watch how did A B and C?

You gotta do that today?

See, But like kids don't watch film, They don't watch guys of the old time day.

I don't even know if kids watch basketball anymore today.

K You know what I'm like, we have to like, we have to give them film.

We put film on the thing and and with us.

So it was like we gave all these guys these film.

You know what I mean?

They got playbooks KG to where it's like you gotta it runs the walk them.

No, man, you gotta walk these kids through it.

Do our kids?

These the kids that didn't want to get wooped.

We didn't whoop these kids.

He helped them up.

We didn't want to get hurt.

We spoiled the ship out of these kids.

Guess what, we gotta take them to the water drink and then show them out of drink.

Okay, you copy me, like that's if we're not showing somebody an example.

But these kids are are they They go off examples of how they're shown.

I'm telling you, watch man, we give them example.

Who you're talking about we do.

We run players for like thirty minutes, forty minutes and can't get it, you know what I mean.

It's like you put them in, you try to put them in the easiest situations you can for him, as far as dribble handoffs, try to make plays.

You put them in zoom zoom actions and stuff like that.

But as far like trying to cater to these kids, like with us, I'd be like, hey, gee, you got to be here because that's going to make the past.

Here, go this way, in that way.

We could, we could understand that.

But when you tell these kids today that, it's like, now I gotta see it.

I gotta I gotta see how you're doing it.

And we do it every day.

Like we spend a lot of time drilling stuff, we spend a lot of time showing showing film, getting out there ourselves.

My son, my son even gets into practice just to show them the way of how to play, you know, he gets what the key plays with some of the kids on the team, just to show my dr He doesn't really shoot too much, he just I mean, he'll shoot, but he gets in the point of show him how to play, how to communicate like no one talks, Like we sit there and no one will talk.

Hey, so we gotta talk.

We got to communicate.

And there'll be a switch that we know we're switching and two people are They're looking at each other like do you go?

Do I go?

Do I go?

And it's fucking communicate.

It's simple, just talk.

And and what I remember about you all playing, you were talking.

You were talking on everything even when you weren't in the play.

You know what I mean?

And that goes a long way, and it shows people and to Guesst people aware, And like I said, we're I mean the kids weren't asdvanced as us back then, but I mean right now, but I'm trying to instill all these habits and break all the old habits that they had before.

This is why I see the summers being so important development.

Being able to do simple shit, dribbling behind your back, right hand, left hand, like stuff that you wouldn't even think about.

Right most of these kids wouldn't even understand getting on the treadmill, singing, being loud on the court, being able to open up your lung capacity so it sounds like you're at a base.

You're at the basics of basketball, of of IQ where you have to actually go in and actually teach a certain mentality versus you know, thinking some kids knowing now in that it does the way that you teach and they expecting of the basis, Is this how you're recruiting.

Are you recruiting older smarter players are trying to look for players who can understand certain or be on a certain IQ level or are you is this affecting your recruitment and on the player that you were starting to recruit.

Because with us, we saw we started recruitment situation kind of late because they hired me a little late and I got to see what I got to see film.

So a lot of guys I have are from just watching film and off that I mean, but going first, going moving forward, I mean, we just hired we just got a four star kid that first time in school history a four star kid has signed with the school.

And you know it was it was my pick, Like I went and watched this kid play at e Ybl and there's probably two or three kids at Eybl Eybl was like, I need that kid, and he was one of those kids and you could see it in them when you watch and play, you know what I mean.

If they know how to run plays, that they could spread the court, that they could space, if they know how to help and get back, you could see all that.

Like we we've been arounding the game a long time.

When we notice that and people are gonna catch, I don't want to see a guy that's just gonna go out there and dunk.

I want to see I want a tough guy.

I want a kid that don't care if he break his nose going in the front of rema or diving on the floor.

That's the type of kid I want.

You know, all the finest stuff is good, but I want a kid that's tough, that knows how to play and it's smart.

That's the kids that we're going.

For in the next in the next four years, in the next two years.

What would you like to add to this team that you don't have today?

Just you know, I mean the four and five stars don't mean no difference thing.

I want to get a team that people fear, you know what I mean.

We we we going to the thing.

We're a new team.

No one really give us some chance.

But that has that that people fear and that we have confidence like we played U, C, l A and CAL and I mean you could tell on the look of some of the kids' faces like wow, you know what I mean.

I want I want to come in there and just be like, shit, this is a game we could go take.

No one has us winning, Let's go take this shit.

I want I want kids mentalities and thoughts to be like that.

And I mean it comes off of us.

They're getting in that mode.

Like I said, we've had them, We've had them for a few months, but we're getting them to that grind mode.

As far as this is the way we what we expect from you, you have to go out and do it.

I don't care who you are.

This has to be done or you won't play.

You know what, you know what A lot of times I'll play and you know this, a lot of times teams take on their coach's character.

Yeah, if you was to say, in the perfect world, so one of my fasts, So I'm gonna just side not for two seconds?

Church.

What was that three summers ago?

How many summers ago was Bobby Jackson the summer league coach for the Kings.

I think he was a couple of years, a couple of years ago.

Yeah, a couple three years ago, right, You remember when they had little Mitchell.

I remember when they had Donovan?

What was yeah done?

No no, no, no, no, no, no no.

What's the little nigga from Baylor.

I know he's talking about he's in Miami.

I'm saying his name.

I'm saying that he's in Miami right now.

Listen, listen to me.

When I saw the little homie get on Sacramento for the summer League, I saw a bunch of little Bobby Jackson's and he was all playing like Bobby Jackson.

Anybody don't know Bobby because Bobby old.

Now your a little.

Round ball, he a little baseball.

She was asking the back shout to my dog, Bobo.

You know what I'm saying.

You know I love him.

But when I watched that team, Mike, they were playing like him.

They had took on his personality at one point.

Are you looking to put on your personality?

And because everybody sees you as Mike with a nice smile, Mike, Mike baby is team dom.

You know everything you know?

Hey, you know?

But I know you was a savage, my guy, and I respect you, and man, you played on the highest levels man, how do you Yeah, I guess a two part of like how do you put your personality onto your team?

Just the coach of the coach of is put tough love on them, you know what I mean.

I cuss that in my get out there, but you know after that, make him under head, you know, smile with them.

Hey, make sure you guys.

If you guys ever need anything, called me.

You could talk to me whenever.

But I want them to be tougher.

Like I'm telling them, I don't give a shit if you get a moving screen.

I don't give a shit if you if you take an elbow to the chest or elbow to the thing and get a foul, be tough.

I want you to be tough.

I was tough, like I don't care.

I'll get in there and get it and put them up with anybody.

And that's the way I'm trying to get these kids to be.

I think once we're tougher, then everything's gonna take care of yourself.

Because we're not really tough yet.

Like we get pushed around a lot and they think like, well that's the foul.

That's the foul.

Now foul that motherfucker back.

You know what I mean, it's just the mindset we got to, Like I said, habits for these kids, they've been doing the bad habits for so long.

It's going to take a little while to get it out of them.

And once we get it out of them, I think we're looking up.

I like that.

I like that.

If it's one matter of fact, if it's one or two players right now in the next one or two years that you can have on your team, who would they be top recruits out here that you're looking at.

I don't think I'm about to talk about that.

KG you we're not allowed to talk like.

There's so many rules with that shit.

Man.

Hey, hey, my eligibility is available, Okay, I just I just want to throw that out there.

I got a naming likeness.

We can talk off camera with all this, you know what I'm saying.

I would rebound.

I can talk.

I hear your problems, right.

I don't want to go there.

But it's a list of us out here.

I got a bunch of guys in the back, you know what I'm saying.

So yeah, I got you question.

How much is NIL changing all this?

Bro?

It's the money in front of the love?

Are we do we still have.

Players who really love it going to gym, you know, treated like a girlfriend, spend a bunch of.

Time with it.

Do we still have Jim Ratts?

Or is the money in front of the love right now?

I think it's I think it makes it harder because you know, I got a few kids that recruited and the first thing to ask is like how much money are you giving off?

Okay positions?

Like there was this one kid, I'm not gonna name his name, but he the first thing he asked me.

I talked to him, good kid, I mean, was a center.

And the first three things he asked was are you gonna recruit over me?

How much am we paid?

And who is gonna be?

Who am I?

Am?

I gonna be going against anybody for the starting spot?

So soon as soon as he throws three questions he asked, I told him.

My guy said leave him alone.

I don't want them because you I mean, like even with me, when even when I was coming into school, you know, Jason Terry was there.

My I've never thought one time that, hey, am I gonna be playing ahead of him?

Do I need to ask the coach what's going on?

I came in there and was like I figured I was gonna I figured that was my spot and with no with no questions asked, I was gonna come in there, and I figured, like that was gonna be me.

You know, it ended up being me.

But I've never that never crossed my mind of Damn, am I gonna play.

It's just couldn't happen because you get all it like that that goes with that goes with the h with the ni L and the transfer fo old too.

That's killing it because if I don't like it here and I don't like what's going on here, I could go somewhere else with no problem.

And that's kind of like how the AAU is too, to where it's like, Damn, I don't like what the coach.

That's why the coaches don't teach it nothing, because if I tell my my superstars something, he gonna go somewhere else to where a coach is gonna them be free and do what he wants and have to have questions asked, and I don't.

I don't coach like that.

I'll let him know.

I'll let these kids know from the beginning to seize it.

If you're not willing to get on this boat.

Ride.

Let us know.

Now, we'll let you off with no problem.

But this is how it's gonna go.

Wow, you like the portal options like you like now.

I don't like that because you never want the castle for me.

I played my same team two years in a row.

That's why we were so good.

We wanted my freshman but we were so good my sophomore year that we should have won.

We end up losing Utah.

But you got to get them to come raader with the guys.

You got to be able to play with guys.

You don't want new guys every year to where it's like, see, but let me see if these guys even play together.

You know what.

I think it's hurting in that aspect.

And I mean, hopefully something gets fixed, hopefully something changes, but we'll see.

Man, you like the options of being able to sign your own players to extending years after four years if you.

Can't, I didn't even know that, Like I'm still really, I'm.

Just talking about the possibility.

I think college needs this.

I think if you're going to start and not even worry about the freshman no more, I think this freshman class is very special.

I think you have the exception, right, but years to come.

I don't hear the buzzing like I hear like now right, what if I'm hearing, and this is what I'm hearing in college, that more people are going after the two year player that junior college who's a more experience, more stronger, more developed versus the freshmen.

If that's the case, then if you're not better than freshman and guys coming in, then you should go ahead and figure out a way to take you're a fourth year player and get him two more years on your team.

That's two more years continuity, two more years of offense, two more years of defense, two more years of terminology, two more years.

Away of life.

You know what I'm saying.

So what's that?

What's your I would like that too, But I mean, I have no problem with freshmen.

You could develop freshman better than I think an older guy that's setting his ways.

We got a few freshmen on here already, but I mean some have came from other schools.

But I think I don't want to mind a junior college maybe point guard that's been in that situation, you know, compared to maybe a high school point guard.

And just I mean, just it depends what you're really looking for you know, I, like I said, you gotta from nowadays.

You got to put your eyes on them, you know what I mean.

You get a lot of I get a lot of messages here, Mike, watch this video, watch this video.

I need to see him.

Can he come in here and work out?

Can I go watch him work out?

You know, and just watch him in the game, in the game setting.

And I mean like, but I don't.

I don't turn my nose up to any freshman cage.

I know some freshmen out there that are going to get looked past, that are really good, that could come in here and play right away.

That's real, that's real.

Are you watching the Kings?

Are you keeping close out with Doug and all the Kings doing?

Yeah?

I love Doug Man.

Doug's doing a great job.

I mean they're like it's in disarray, like you know, there's so much shit going on with the team, which I don't think is any of Doug's fault.

You know, Doug was putting this disposition with the trades he got and this and that.

Now they're trying to they're trying to move everybody right now, you know what I mean.

So you know how that goes and when your mind, uh ship, they want to trade me.

So now you kind of go on the back burner now, like you know what, I just I'm gonna chill till something happens.

What kind of advice you're giving them?

Man like coach to coach, Man.

Like some advice from him?

He like he I asked questions.

I went to the training camp just to try to get some just to feed off his brain.

And you know Bobby's there, Coach Wilson's there that I had in Atlanta.

So I'm just getting them.

I'm just trying to get as much information that I can.

I've always been like that.

I'm always learning, even when I was in my last couple of years playing, I'm trying to pick and learn and see stuff that I can still learn.

And I'm always learning.

Case that's how the ship goes.

Man.

When you when you when you can't learn no more, that's I mean, the sh it's over with man.

That's real.

That's real as hell.

That's real.

Listen, man, I know it's I know it's Thanksgiving even stuff.

Man.

I got to ask you, man, do you got any Thanksgiving or family traditions that that you're in that you're embarking on.

I know y'all working.

I know y'all playing games and stuff during the holiday and stuff.

Yeah, I won't have my family with me this this time is probably the first Thanksgiving I don't have my family with me around.

But you know, I have my son out here.

My son's helping me coach.

Tomorrow, we gotta practice in the morning.

I'm gonna take me.

I'm gonna have the kids, you know, a fun practice, nothing too crazy, where they get up you know, some shots, play against the love each other, and then take get them a Thanksgiving dinner to the kids that don't have anybody here family wise, could just go in there and eat, hang out, watch some football, watch some basketball.

See what we gotta do.

That's what's up man.

You know, and don't forget man.

You everybody's big brother.

Man them.

I know them kids look up to you.

I know you got stories for them.

Man.

I know how much is yeah, how much of.

You know, development off the court, you know, helping these young men be solid young men.

How much development goes into that.

It's a lot.

Because I care about these kids, you know, I'm not telling them.

They could come to me at any time asking what I've been, where you've been at you know, I mean, all that stuff that you're looking for right now, if you really put your time in it, it's gonna be.

It's gonna be when you get there, ten times full.

You know what I mean, The money, the cars, whatever you want, whatever you like, the jewelry.

You like jewelry, it's gonna be ten times fall.

You get to that spot.

You know you like the cars, it's gonna be there.

But you can't think that it's just gonna that you're just gonna show up and it's gonna happen.

It ain't gonna happen like that.

Man.

You gotta showing man showing that team down footage.

Man with y'all stunt, let's bring I think Mike was the first guy see with the maid bag.

You know what I'm saying.

Do they know who you are?

Do they know who you are?

Do they know who you are?

Yeah?

They?

I mean they say that.

Tell them to watch the film and stuff too.

But I mean, like with them, I mean they'll get there, man, They just gotta be pushed.

No one's like I said, no one I think has really ever cared about them as far as like Hey, man, I love you your death.

No matter how I talk to you out here, it's tough love.

I'll have your back no matter what.

And these kids know that.

Anybody signs you up, anybody want to play ones against coach.

Now.

Look, so I used to play at the beginning of the season, right, oh shit.

Right, get it in show you trying to keep them lists going.

No, I'm just trying to try to get in there, trying to show them the right way to play, make you know what I mean.

So we got on a fast break one time.

The kid kids saw me and he just took our full speed at that foul ship out and I said.

Look, look, get your out of here.

That fact I'm out here to try to help y'all play.

I don't think that y'all get me one on one and you're gonna clear the court.

I'm a foul shit out you you know what I mean.

So I told her, and that was on the last times I play.

I was like, I had to let him know, like, y'all ain't gonna sit there just I throw me to death.

Look that's what you do.

They saw, They show you as a win coach.

I saw a coach.

I saw a house.

I saw my chands, I saw I'll fuck with him for that.

I saw my chance.

But look, I'm the ref though that there ain't no foul.

You know, you can't even win in this man like you ain't ship man.

Hey, listen, I gotta say this, man.

I've been watching Sack State get more attention for the football, for the goddamn concerts, for the for the UFC, for andre Ward coming out there?

Man, what is going on in Sack State?

Man?

Talk about the environment of diversity amongst not just sports, but I mean arts, music, What y'all got cracking up there?

Many change the likes, man, I need the likes to be the goddamn sting of green Man.

Right, stringers up?

God damn it?

Right?

Right?

Look, so doctor Luke Wood is changing everything man, maybe a second, second, or third year here.

And you know, just with the hires that he made with football, the how he made with me and basketball, bringing in shack with us, bringing in shacks, andre Ward, You riding up.

There, y'all got Brad belt up there?

Yes, I mean we're making moves in the and it's all because doctor Luke would like he's making things happen.

He knows that with athletics is going to bring a lot of stuff.

People are gonna want to come here for the attention that they're getting.

And you know, like I said, I think I thank God for Luke, you know, and and Mark or give me a chance to start my career here in Sack.

And you know, I have my best careers here when I was playing the NBA, and to start my career here for coaching.

I mean, I'm blessed.

Man, I'm blessed.

Man.

Man everything, Man, Yeah, y'all on your way.

Man, y'all got y'all something special.

Man, I see what I told Chus.

Man, We're gonna have to come up and catch a game live.

Man.

Let me know.

Man.

Plus man, you know what I'm saying.

And then yeah, man, waiting you got to do that might be be a documentary to man.

Man, we're working on.

We got to get you and I want to get you to a game.

Man.

We're gonna get you to one of the best games out here.

I tell Mike, And we get you, we get a job.

We need jobs.

We need your presence out here.

And let you talk to these kids and give them give them a real spill, you know.

What I mean, listen, do me a little favor because we're fans, right, so when we watch I don't know any of your player's names.

I talked to church As.

I call one guy little Kawhi, a little Klay Thompson on there, right, I don't call Mikey nothing.

Mikey's just Mikey.

You know what I'm saying.

And it was it that ship, you know what I'm saying.

So and then big Fella.

I like big Fella cause he like a little cat.

He like a little can't any you know what I'm saying, Like a little cat.

You know what I'm saying.

I like.

I like young fella man before he got hurt, I was watching me man.

But when I'm watching your team, man, y'all scrappy.

You need to get some And this is just suggestions.

Well, sometimes helps is going to get footage of some not necessarily your favorite player, but one of them guys he left handed, He doar skined.

I think he got dreads, but he plays like Herb Jones.

He got his hands on everything.

He in the lanes, and he's right handed.

But when I'm watching him, he's so Herb Jones in so long like these are the examples when players see themselves.

Did I think that would help kind of bridge the attitude and mentality of what you want and give a description.

Because a coach telling how I want you to noty a wing like Scotty Pippen.

I looked at Flip.

I was like, what what do you like, Scotty Pippen?

What the fuck does that even mean?

Then he showed me Scotty deny in the wing.

I was like, oh, you want me to done or note wing like that?

Yeah?

You see how he look?

Okay, look like look at Robin and I was like, do not a wing like Robin?

What the fuck is that?

Look like?

Did he show me did this Robin?

I was like, oh shit, yeah, what is this?

And he was like, this is how gods play defense.

And so when I needed an example of I mean, whether it was level, whether it was you know, knowledge and how he was hot three quarter when he spun he just turned this, whether it was stuff that that was intricate, stuff that I can get just off the visual.

Man.

That helps.

I'm telling you.

Try to see man, I'm gonna get on that today.

Real talk man, but I much want to uh not only thank you for the for the for the convroo, Bro.

But thanksgiving to you, Bro, you and your family.

Man, tell your son, I said what up to the house.

I said it up.

Nephews, Tell all my nephews, Jaalen and everybody else said it up.

Man.

It's good to hear from you.

Man.

I will appreciate you having me on.

Bro.

You got we're gonna get you out of you.

I se my dog, my dog.

I think Mike's gonna do well up in sax State.

Man.

He has some vision.

He has, you know, kind of an ideal of what he wants.

And you know, you got to go into a program thinking, you know, foll eight years.

You know what I'm saying, being able to you know, what kind of impact can I make while I'm here?

So you know, it sounds like he really wants to develop players from a from a from a from a basis like understanding, like the makeup of basketball and going back to the you know, the original confiance of how you learned the game and you know how to throw a pass and all that stuff.

Man, like true development.

You know, when you look at Damon Stoudamar, when you look at Rod Strickland, when you look at all of the guys.

Gary Payton, point guards make some of the best best coaches just because of their their ability to bridge knowledge, to bridge direction, you know what I'm saying, Like, Yeah, I've always here, I've always thought, Yeah, I've always thought that point guards make the best coaches just because they're they're coaching as they're consolidating the game.

So yeah, man.

Shot the mic, bed Man sack State Man, gotta come up and fuck with y'all.

Man.

Good luck to ship Man.

Yeah go stingers stingers up.

Yeah.

Nah Yeah,