Episode Transcript
Kyota at Chelsea Daniels here, host of the Front Page.
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Speaker 2Kyota.
Speaker 1I'm Chelsea Daniels and this is the Front Page, a daily podcast presented by the New Zealand Herald.
French exchange student Elois Roland was last seen five.
Speaker 2Years ago today.
Speaker 1The then eighteen year old's disappearance has baffled authorities ever since.
Speaker 2Was it murder, a kidnapping, an accident?
Speaker 1Did he get lost in the bush, commit suicide or plan an escape?
Speaker 2Is he still alive?
Does he want to be found?
Speaker 1He searches Google Maps for directions to Peeh about five am that morning, walks for nearly two hours.
He turns onto Piha Road about nine to sixteen am, and at nine forty eight am the battery on his phone goes dead and then nothing nothing For five years.
Today, on the Front Page, Herald's senior journalist an Elise joins us as we take a look back at Eloi's disappearance, we'll also hear some clips from my conversations with Aloa's parents, Tieri and Catmine, and Bruno du Bois of A Cappella Productions, who directed a documentary series in France about Lawa's story and Elois disappeared five years ago.
Speaker 2Can you tell me a little bit about the investigation.
Speaker 3Initially, police were able to ascertain that after he left his host family's home, which was on the north Shore, he came into town and got on a train who was sent at Britomart, the big transport center in Auckland, and then he was seen again on camera in West Auckland, and from there they know that he's probably walked ten kilometers to the area of Peiha Road.
That's where his cell phone was tracked to and that's where it stopped.
They checked that area extensively.
They went through the bush, they went door knocking, they just did everything they could in that area to find traces of him, and there was just nothing.
At some point later on they found a T shirt and that was sent off to be forensically tested, but wasn't his.
Speaker 1There's been a lot of interest about his disappearance here, but also actually in France.
I've spoken with the director there, Bruno d'u pois of a Cappella Productions, about a documentary series he actually did, and he's told me it's gotten a lot of traction over there.
Speaker 4In France.
We heard a lot about this toy because at this time it was COVID.
I discover by Facebook and I was very concerned because it was very strange.
We don't heard about this do it?
And I think it was a very very big injustice.
And they start to work about this.
Toya meets the family and promised to help them to try to understand what's happened to Eloids.
And after we have to wait for two years before can come to New Zealand because you know use Alund closing border to her to wait is a long way, a long time.
It was very difficult for parents and as this time we can only work with internet.
With his family, we tried to find everything about his life in New Zealand by such a networks activity.
Speaker 1I think it's important to note el One went missing in the early days of COVID.
Hey the week after he went missing, the who actually officially declared a global pandemic.
This gives us some insight into how it's disappearance kind of flew under the radar a bit.
Speaker 3Hey, yeah, it absolutely did.
And a lot of people go missing in New Zealand and turn up later on.
So there's a lot of stories that we do, a lot of press releases we get from policing.
This person is missing and then a few hours later they've been found.
We knew that Alwa hadn't been found, we knew that he was still missing, but also this huge, big pandemic was happening at the time, and a lot of things just became sort of secondary, I guess in the headlines, and that must have been so frustrating for his family being on the other side of the world.
They can't get here to search themselves.
But the police have assured that they've just done everything they can.
They've chased every lead, any tip that's come in, they've looked at and if it's you know, if it's something they can work with, they have done that.
But it was such an unprecedented and unknown time in the world, and I think that the events of COVID definitely took this over for sure.
And again, I just cannot imagine someone in my family being missing on the other side of the world and not being able to physically go there and look for them myself and see the area and understand what might have been going on.
Speaker 1So Elua came to New Zealand to study English, and as far as his family was aware, he didn't actually have any previous mental health concerns.
But what kind of behavior did he exhibit while he was here, so there were.
Speaker 3No red flags for his host family.
He had planned to go home earlier.
He changed his flights to go home earlier in the month.
I think he was Judigo home in late May, and he changed his flight to the twenty first.
He told friends that he was homesick.
He felt very lonely here and he was missing friends and family.
He wanted to just go back to France.
And he was actually really excited because he had a test coming up to get into the Air Force and he wanted to go back and do that early and move on with that.
So he was a young person with plans and he was excited about his future.
But at the same time he was homesick.
He was, you know, speaking about loneliness, and you know, there were some other things going on.
You know, I think there had been a romantic situation that hadn't gone his way, and understandably he wasn't feeling great.
But even so, his friends that he spoke to regularly didn't have any sort of huge concerns about him at the time.
Speaker 1So Bruno, the director I spoke to, actually said from the videos that he had seen, they thought maybe it was schizophrenia, because you start developing those symptoms around that age.
But he did say that he's not a psychologist and it could have been something else like depression.
In the months leading up to his disappearance, he had apparently fallen in love with a French girl at his class.
She had a boyfriend who arrived in December.
His teacher said his mood changes, he started acting weird.
He was sacked from two restaurant jobs.
At one of them, security took a video of him ranting and raving after being thrown out, and he sends a video to his parents saying the owner of the hotel he worked at created the coronavirus and said that he wanted to quote kill him.
One thing though, for certain, is that Elois felt alone.
Speaker 4All those students start to judge him, has some strange guy and if you work very alone.
At this time, he start to the publication on Facebook and Mastagram, strength very long, very politive about his bad feeling, his sad feeling.
He was as sick, but he said a lot, he said a lot in the social network.
Everybody around him, especially for those students in US school, rejected him and don't help him.
And I think there is something with more kind of kindness.
Maybe somebody can help him and say, Okay, you are sick.
We can go in the hospitality or doctor and we will help you.
That's what happened.
Speaker 1You think basically he was acting strange.
He may have developed some kind of mental health condition, like perhaps schizophrenia, and that kind of explains his rational behavior.
What clues did you find by looking through his social media accounts.
Speaker 4We found a lot of things and a lot of mysage message he was very alone.
He feels very alone, and nobody else helps him.
He sent a lot, a lot and a lot of message and story.
And when somebody do that, obviously it's for to caull help.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 4In one message, he's said by a voice message, everybody can see I need help, but they don't.
He said it what is also very sad that he understanding himself.
He has some trouble.
He wondered himself about what's happened to him, and he said it.
He said it a lot on story by voice message, but everybody wiljecting nobody had.
Speaker 1And what have police said about the investigation into Elwa's disappearance.
Speaker 3Look, they've said all along that it remains open, that they will follow up any line of inquiry in it.
You know, in cases like this, they don't stay active on a daily basis.
You know, police can only do so much and then they have to sort of move to the next phase of an investigation.
So while this is never closed, there's not a whole team working on it every day.
They have promised though that if there is new information, they'll act on it.
And you know, it's a hard part of New Zealand when someone goes missing out on that west coast.
And I don't think a lot of people understand that the area our bush is intense.
It's not just a little forest, it's not just some trees.
It's really heavy forestation and it's a really precarious sort of you know ground and terrain, and police can only do so much they employ search and rescue professionals, they use dogs, they drones now and heat seeking drones, and they've got so many ways to look for people and they employ all of those in a case like this.
They've always said they won't close this case until or unless they, you know, have really good reason to.
There have been other cases of people that have gone missing in that area, and after a while, the only sort of logical conclusion is that they have passed away, and those cases have been referred to the coroner.
Aloa's case hasn't yet, and police have assured his family and us, you know, multiple times that in any new information they will act on and it remains open and anyone with information is encouraged to come forward.
Speaker 1So documentary filmmaker Dupois and the Rolands, they think that there are endless scenarios about what could have happened to Elois.
Speaker 4We already can't know what's happened to you.
We already can not because we have no information, no clues.
So I'm not sure.
I think maybe my conviction is Issues is shoes to live.
But probably it went bad, I think in first issues, but probably it went bad.
But I'm sure you know suicide and maybe what he's missing.
Now it's a criminal investigation, but we have no fact that investigation, but we have no fact for missing, for suicidal, and the fact as a believer as a bush.
Speaker 1So the detective in charge of the investigation told The Herald in twenty twenty two he thought it was unlikely that Aloa made it to the Black Sands of Piha Beach.
He said, my thoughts are still the bush.
He's potentially tried to take a shortcut to the beach and didn't realize how far that would be and overestimated his abilities.
He said, it's pretty gnarly in there.
It is possible he's just thought, well, it's like a straight line down there, so it shouldn't be a problem, and maybe he's gotten into some grief in the bush somewhere.
Speaker 3The police have always told me that they're keeping an open mind.
Obviously the area Aloi has gone missing in or was last seen, and is that really intense bush sort of area.
There's lots of places out there where people can slip and fall and have accidents and may not necessarily be found quickly.
Now there's people out there that have never been found, unfortunately, but police are open to any any theory or any you know, they've not shut down anything.
There's no signs of foul play, there's no signs of any sort of kidnap or you know, suspicious circumstance.
But equally, if someone came forward with information, you know, the police have said that they will investigate that.
I just can't imagine what it's like for Aloi's family to, as I said, not be able to come here and to know and have that closure.
There's just so many unknowns for them, and you know, unsurprisingly, they must constantly think about different ways and means that he's gone missing, and that must be absolutely torturing for them.
Speaker 2Thanks for joining us, Anna, Thank you.
Speaker 1I spoke with Aniwa's parents, Tieri and Katerine, and they came to New Zealand in twenty twenty two.
They appealed to the public for any information about their son, and they told me the five years since Elawa's disappearance just feels like five days.
Speaker 5We are we are very we feel very heartbreaking, very worry.
On the It's very difficult since it's disciplined every day, every night, really think to a war.
It's very difficult because we have not news of the war because of the investigation.
Police are very difficult for home, it's not easy to communicate and every every day, the week, every month, we try to keep the contact with New Zealand the authority.
Speaker 2What do you think happens?
Speaker 5In fact we always it is safe and in good health, but it's very difficult.
We have done everything to keep open police investigations.
Speaker 6The police did a lot of such in the area where i Wa disappeared, but she didn't find anything and we we still don't know what what happened.
Speaker 1I have spoken with police and they say the file remains open and to the disappearance of al Wir el Wa is still a missing person and police continue to follow up any news.
Speaker 2We are very greatful.
Speaker 6We are very grateful because for us, it's very important that I war stay in the in the main and the main of of the people on the world, on the earth.
The most important is that the people remember ill war because perhaps y yeah, do you have a testimony?
Speaker 2We don't know.
Speaker 1That's it for this episode of the Front Page.
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