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Speaker 1

And now move the Sticks with Daniel, Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.

Speaker 2

What's up everybody?

Welcome to move the Sticks on a Monday, DJ and Baldi with you.

Buck is having some traveling difficulties.

Baldi, you made you made a great call in the in the group chat, which is so well put, is that they pay us for the travel, not for their work, but travels.

Speaker 1

We love doing the work.

Speaker 2

DJ.

Speaker 1

We hate to travel.

And there's that I was involved in.

Not as bad as Bucky here last night, but you know, connections, don't you know, don't go on time?

And I come back home last night, DJ, I'm in New Jersey.

Got eight inches of snow on my driveway at two in the morning.

You got to go get the shovel just to get in the driveway, you know, like it's uh, you know it's Was.

Speaker 2

It colder because we saw each other yesterday in Kansas City?

Was it was it colder when you landed or was it colder in KC?

Speaker 1

I felt like KC in the morning it was brutal.

It was really brutal in the morning.

It seemed like when the sun came out, I felt like it was it was pretty decent last night it was.

It was pretty rough.

It was probably like eight or nine degrees last night with the wind blowing, so dump d eight inches of snow in New Jersey.

So you know, it was a little bit to deal with.

But I felt like during the game, I didn't feel like the temperature was any kind of a factor at all.

Speaker 2

No, I definitely felt like too.

The way that it kind of worked out for the Chargers was that the sun was shining on their side of the field.

You have the shadows in the shade which is much colder on the chief side of things there.

But we'll get to that.

We'll get to that game, and just a little bit, baldy, I want to get big picture and then we'll jump into some of these some of these ball games.

But I was just looking at the playoff standings today, and if I asked you this, if I if I told you could have one field versus another field for who you thought would end up winning the Super Bowl.

And if I if I gave you the top division, the division leaders in the AFC, which is Denver, so you have your choice.

You get Denver, New England, Jacksonville, Pittsburgh, those four teams, or you get the Chargers, Buffalo, Houston.

Speaker 1

It's a great.

Speaker 2

Teams because it isn't that interesting.

Speaker 1

I take the second field.

Yeah, I take the second Fielduse I don't know anybody wants to see Houston.

Nobody.

Speaker 2

I mean, all these teams are gonna have to go on the road, and all of them are built to go on the road.

Speaker 1

Yeah, I mean defense travels.

So you know, Houston, I think you go anywhere and win.

Buffalo.

What they did to New England on the road yesterday, I mean it was it was more of the Josh Allen James Cook had a great game, but it was it was the whole, the whole effort, you know.

I mean all those tight ends of Buffalo had a big say in it.

That was a good game to study.

But I might take that second tier.

Speaker 2

That's what I was looking at.

It just kind of you know, you pick your head up a little bit and start looking at the seedings.

Yeah, this time here, so we go over to the NFC and then you look there at the top seeds of division leaders.

You've got the Rams, the Bears, the Eagles, the Bucks, and then those next three teams would be Seattle, San Francisco, Green Bay, and I think because of injuries.

You know, when you have Bosa and Micah Parsons out, I think that flips that balance of power more towards those division leaders.

Yeah.

Speaker 1

Yeah, I mean losing Michael ass And I mean it was just I mean, he's the one chess piece that you know, really made that made that defense special, all the different things that he can do, and to see him go down, you know, I was just rough yesterday.

I mean, we're we're a league DJ that's built on superstars, not star superstars, guys that can change the game every Sunday like mahomes and and Parsons can.

They're so rare to come by and to see him both go down yesterday was really tough.

Yeah, it was a whole host of injuries too.

Christian Watson went down.

Looks like hopefully he's going to be okay.

Davante Adams I think was a hammy, but you know it might miss some time, might miss.

Speaker 2

That looked.

Yeah, so we'll see how you know, maybe that's a playoff thing, uh when he gets back.

But man, injury is a big, big part of the day.

Let's uh, let's jump in into these games.

Well to me and we're calling the same game, So you're probably in the same boat as me, where you kind of peek at some of the scores they're in some commercial breaks and and I'm looking at the New England Buffalo game and I'm like, oh my god, New England, it's going to run them out of the state.

Twe mill flowing their doors off, and then here comes Josh Allen.

The Buffalo Bill's thirty five thirty one.

What was your takeaway?

Speaker 1

Well, they didn't panic number one, you know, they got the touchdown before the end of the half to make it twenty one seven, you know, and then they just kept chipping away and Josh Allen, you know, he's just he's you know, I saw Mike Brabel, you know, somebody asked him about Josh Allen in the post game, and he just put his head in his hands and he's like, you watch the games like you just have to watch them, Like there's just nobody else like him.

You did a first down, he ran eight, really eight times.

He had a couple of meal downs, but he really ran eight times, you know, and four of them were first first downs.

And there's really nothing anybody can do when he wants to take off with it.

And then the way that he extends the plays.

He made a touchdown throw to Dawson Knox.

I mean, New England can't play a better defense.

They're two deep, five hundred, They've shrunk every zone there is, and the line does a pretty good job at the front four and Josh just gets outside the pocket and then he just just put that bazook up on his shoulder just to Dawson Knox.

Man like the defense didn't have a chance to react to it.

Speaker 2

You know what the offense reminded me of when I was watching it is it reminded me of kind of the Christian McCaffrey Stanford teams a little bit, where you know, with Andrew Luck being the quarterback, you know, I know, the kind of timelines were different.

But because you got all these tight ends out there.

Now you've got a back who's shifty, who can insert anywhere you want with them looks like they got a freaking parade up front with everybody on the line of scrimmage.

And then you've got a quarterback who anytime he wants can go just get yards.

And then you know, you got a big arm to be able to create some big plays.

But I was going through.

One of the things I don't know that we talk about a lot with Buffalo was the offensive line.

Speaker 1

Oh, no doubt they a couple of weeks they were.

Speaker 2

Denting the interior that defensive line.

Man, they were knocking them off the ball a lot of like they do a lot of stuff with their tackles, or they just get the down blow.

They just get the unload, you know, these down blocks and just wiping dudes and creating some big old creases there.

So I was impressed with what they did.

I thought they completely reset the line of scrimma in that game.

Even when they're down, they just stayed with the run.

Speaker 1

Now, they stayed with the run, and it was I posted a video of James Cook because he's you know, he's like literally twenty something yards behind Jonathan Taylor for the league lead right now in rushing.

So he has back to back runs and the second run takes the lead final touchdown the day, thirty five thirty one.

But he has a run before that.

He goes eleven yards up the middle, he comes to like a double stop, like he stops and he hops and he puts everybody in a freeze, and then he exploded for eleven, and then the next one, the very next play from the twelfth, he just smoked it.

He just smoked it like he saw it right away, and you just see like that burst of what he has and all the different ways that he can kind of beat you.

He had three touchdowns yesterday called a pass or touchdowns, So like when he's rolling like that, that really gives that offense.

Uh, it's really kind of difficult to stop.

It is tight end based a Dawson Knox.

Even Jackson Halls is a great blocker.

You know, caught a couple of key passes yesterday, But I didn't see any panic in a team down twenty one.

Speaker 2

Nothing.

Speaker 1

I got to ask you about Trevon Henderson.

Speaker 2

Though, I've got a note for you on that one.

Speaker 1

Okay, So right now, he's got five touchdowns of fifty yards of more dj yep.

Last year, Saquon had seven, which helped him get to two thousand.

But when he came out there was Quinn, Shawn and him, you know, it was a good it was a good back class.

Right.

We're seeing all of them out there, whether it's Monong guy, but we're seeing all the backs play.

But did you feel like he could do those kind of home run hitting.

Speaker 2

Oh one thousand percent.

I mean that was the whole.

That was the whole.

That's what he did in college.

It was just explosive plays, man, a collection of explosive plays.

He was an excellent pass protector and he could catch the ball.

But I was watching that tape this morning and I was looking at to me was the draw you see him out run everybody, But then the one where you run a toss and you redirect like that, You know what it reminded me of.

I don't know anybody used it with him, but that Chris Johnson used to do that all the time.

Man, like Chris Johnson in the NFL, and you see it even like on kickoff returns.

It'll drive you nuts because like, hey, you got to get north and south.

This is the NFL.

You can't.

You're not gonna out run everybody a lot.

Speaker 1

Yeah, when you.

Speaker 2

See a toss in the NFL and a guy redirects and out and boat races everybody like that doesn't happen.

Like Chris Johnson's did that all the time and it looks so it just reminded me of that.

Speaker 1

Even further.

DJ I played with Eric Dickerson.

I remember we played in Cleveland on a Monday night one time, Municipal stadium baseball field like baseball infield.

It was just ugly and he did one of those where he runs up in the back of the line.

We're not getting any movement.

He's you know, his feet don't stop, but there was no place to go.

And then he just went out the back door and just outran the whole defense.

You know, dirt's kicking up off the you know, the infield.

Uh.

And then just watch Drake May just to see his speed getting out.

Speaker 2

Was rolling and he ended up getting the block.

He was really you kind of see his breakaway speed because over twenty miles per hour on the GPS would put out.

Speaker 1

I wouldn't it doesn't, I don't, you know, it looked like it.

But you know, honestly, in some of his runs, and obviously both touchdown runs, there is there is a part of his game that does remind you of Josh.

And he's not as big, he's not as probably powerful, but there is a part of him that when he puts the ball down, he takes off like he's difficult to stop.

Speaker 2

Yeah, And I think also with Josh I think if you took you know, with Drake, if you put a golf club in his hand, if put a basketball in his hand, a baseball, like, he's going to be one of the best athletes.

You can just see the way the way he plays obviously the brothers, in the basketball background that he has.

It's an athlete, man, he's and it's rare, especially in the era where in now Baldy, I think more so where these guys are.

You know, you've got the quarterback private quarterback coaches, and some of these guys can become a little bit robotic.

Speaker 1

Yep.

Speaker 2

It stands out when you're like, oh no, this is an athlete, man, you know, an old school athlete.

Speaker 1

I thought at one point he scored a second touchdown run and at one point I thought he was going to go and dunk it, like it looked like he was ready to take off, and instead he just you know, he gave it to one of his guys to like, you know, go pound it into the turf and spike it.

But I think he gave it to like, you know, uh, you know, Jared Wilson or somebody to spike it.

But I honestly thought if he if he started jumping that ball was going to get dunked over?

Speaker 2

Who was And they did that when they and they had to recalibrate the goal post.

Speaker 1

Hanging on it, Yeah, hanging out the whole thing.

Take the God to take that out of the game because too many guys that were going over that thing.

Speaker 2

That's funny.

All right, Let's let's get to the game that we were at here, uh sixteen thirteen the Chargers they ended up knocking off the Kansas City Chiefs, and a lot of different ways we can go, but I'll give you my key play of the game.

Yeah, okay, my key played to the game, bald.

He was end of the first half.

It was the kickoff return by Kim two yards, get some get some past the forty.

I think if they're inside the thirty, I think it was only yeah, they might just want to get to the half of it.

Not everything had gone wrong.

It was like they knew they were going to get the ball coming out in the third quarter.

Hey, let's not let's not turn it over, let's just get to the half.

But he gets a nice return and so that's the that's the key play to me in the game.

And they hit Trey Harris on a go ball, and then Candriy Lambertsmith ends up scoring a touchdowns.

Not only do they steal three, they actually steal seven.

But that doesn't happen if you don't get that kickoff return.

Speaker 1

I agree with that, and uh, just the whole rookie class for the Chargers.

I mean, at one point it was ca Andandrey Lambert Smith, Okay, touchdown, but another play it was Trey Harris, it was Arondi Gadson, it was a Marion Ampton.

Like all those guys are out there on the field and they're all making key plays at some point, and some of them were like back to back to back.

I remember just being down the field before the game after I saw you and I was just kind of hanging out down and there was watching the kickers.

I go, this is going to be a kicking game.

There's no win.

The grass is really good, it's the sun's going to melt the ice.

I just felt like, you know, Camberon Dicker, you know what he could do, and then you know on the other side, Butker, I felt like it was going to be a field goal game, and that's kind of what it became.

And even all the way to the end where the Chiefs had plenty of chances to go down at least tie it up.

And you know, Durwin wait, you know, made the play, you know, to play to close it all out.

But I felt like he ran that route better than Travis.

Kelsey ran that route like he's probably seen it so many times in covering him over the years.

Speaker 2

I imagine, you know, when these guys are sixty years old and they're gonna see each other probably you know, at the Hall of Fame, you know they're going to go back there and just and be around it as they're you know, Hall of famers and just be sitting there talking.

There's so many games between these teams that have ended with that matchup, now several of them.

Kelsey's had walk off winners, no doubt, in that matchup a couple of times.

And now Derwin gets his his walk off winner there.

But what it's just, you know, at some point time all day, it's like they're they're paying us for this, like getting to watch two Hall of Fame guys, no doubt, to go at it.

And even I'm calling the game and I'm telling you know, Kelsey catches a couple of balls and zone and you get to a Keith third down and I'm like, just Derwin's got it.

He's got to just match up with That's what you knew, exactly what you got, you know, And that's where I think.

I think if Mahomes was not was in not mensh you maybe Mahomes goes somewhere else.

Yeah yeah, but minsh you didn't.

And uh but man, it was you know, it's interesting I wrote I did some notes on Gads since I want to go back and watch him.

They leak him, which is great because he's athletics, so he can give you some opportunities there, contested catch winners.

He's instinctive on scrambles.

I mean, that's become a skill, especially with some of the offensive line issues they've had to tackle spots.

Herbert's buying time and moving around.

You've got to have some instincts on a scramble.

So Gatson did a good job of that, and Trey Harris the go ball at the end of the half and then he can put you up on a slant.

He's gonna you know, we'll see as keenan kind of you know, they're getting getting everything they can out of Keenan.

But when Keenan's time is done, you see, to me, Trey Harris slides right in there.

Speaker 1

For agreed, he's got to siy and he's got the movement.

Yeah, And I mean it's both those receivers I think are going to be a you know, part of this offense for quite a while.

But I always I also thought, you know, like obviously they threw Jefferson out for the one hit, but he had another hit the way that Derwin hit great, you know she rice like they were just cracking some some pads yesterday.

Like that's that's how you go, and you knocked it.

That's how you have to knock the Chiefs out.

You got to go let them know.

I just see the Chiefs making hits like that.

But I mean they they came from the secondary.

I know they were, you know, deep deep into the safety position there there they run out of bodies just about.

But you know, Jefferson until the point where he got you know, toss out of the game.

And I guess you can you know, debate that a little bit.

But at the same time, like like they thought they were really cracking some heads in that game.

Speaker 2

Yeah, they came out to be physical and aggressive and it worked.

And the other thing I would say is the Chargers getting you know, really good player of the redge guys.

Bosa moves on and so I think some people are kind of wondering what does that look like?

Now?

You know Max a year older, is two y twoy polow two ready for that next step?

Well, he clearly is.

He's got twelve sacks.

He's been awesome.

And then Max got like five and a half, but still you can't move him.

He had a key play on Mahomes get a sack where he beat him to the corner.

If ma Holmes gets around him, it's a huge run.

And then always got seven sacks since the trade Baldy, he doesn't have any in Baltimore.

Speaker 1

Zero Well, I went up and talked to him before the game because him and Tully were both working just a pass rush moves and I just said how much because you know, Chuck Smith really trained him in Baltimore and he really liked oh way.

You know, I know he was stiff coming out of Penn State, didn't play much, but he was really working with him on just turn the corner and two hand swipes and some of the things he said that you know, he's where he's at right now because of Chuck Smith.

Now I'm not taking anything away from what the charges are doing, but I felt like they spent three years really training him and working and we're seeing that payoff right now.

It takes, it takes some time, but you know, you get you know, you get twenty sacks out of those two guys, and you know, I know, you know the organization, but I mean Kleil is just the ultimate pro and everything that he does, how he.

Speaker 2

Came back quick from injury, you know, and he still got all the power that he had coming out of Buffalo.

Speaker 1

I was actually talking to Mike Devil about it because he's he still conducts himself in a very humble manner, you know.

Like I just think maybe if you come out of Florida and you're not a five star and you got to go to the University of Buffalo to go play and you have a big game against Ohio State, that might help get you drafted.

Like maybe you never forget those routes, you know, like you got to go play at the University of Buffalo and whether like we saw yesterday, you know, for Florida kid that can't be the most fun.

But like, you know, I mean they they drafted him, right, But here he is and whatever year this is for him, man like, he's still producing.

Speaker 2

No doubt.

We need to get to the chiefs side of this thing here before we take a pause.

But look, it didn't go well for him this year.

I mean, you have some injuries along the offensive line, but I wouldn't necessarily say that was the death now to this team.

It didn't.

It didn't look right when they had their offensive line hole way.

Speaker 1

I didn't feel like they had any They had no ability to get explosive plays, did you.

And when you have an offensive line that's struggling and you commit a lot of penalties, like it's just hard to really march down the field in ten or twelve play drives.

They're not good enough running team to be able to like bounce it up And so just came down to Mahomes just trying to you know, make you know, splash plays, and they just weren't good enough at it.

Speaker 2

Yeah, I think the kind of look Tray Smith not being out there is a big part of that.

He helps their run game for sure, but they don't have a big time back.

There's nobody in that backfield that makes you worry, you know, and so you're not getting the explosives.

So now teams are being able to put a lid on you and they're not having to put extra resource down there, and you still can't run the ball.

So I mean, it'll be just to see how they try and revamp this thing in the off season.

But I do feel like they need a big time back, you know, whether that's in free agency or whether that's expending a resource in the draft, but they got to get better there.

In my opinion, I agree.

Speaker 1

I agree with you.

Speaker 2

All Right, let's say quick break, we'll come back knock out some of these games, all right, Baldy.

This was a huge, one, big matchup green Bay and Denver.

Green Bay was in a pretty good spot early in this ballgame, and Denver came back.

Bow Knicks I thought it was the best game of his NFL career.

I thought he played great, but a big win for Denver.

Speaker 1

Well, it was twenty three to fourteen green Bay.

They're in the third quarter and they take that deep shot to Watson that he got hurt on.

They're certan like it's just a perfect They kind of bracketed him to begin with, and then the safety broke off and Sir Tan was right where he needed to be, and he just made this certain type play, I mean, just jumped in front.

It wasn't a bad throw by Jordan Love.

It was just a great play by Cirtain.

I felt like that was the turning point of the game right there.

End up taking that ball down and scoring scoring in the next two drives to take control of the game.

Denver wasn't having to deal with Parsons at that point.

But bow Knicks like he's that class is really good.

It's really good.

Caleb's doing what Bo's doing, what Jayden did last year like it's but Bo Nick's like the guy never ever looks tired.

Like he's just one of those guys that can just run around if he has to.

Speaker 2

If you played behind, if you played behind the Auburn offensive line, and he played behind before he transferred to Oregon, you get you get really good shape, you get really good stake running around like that.

Speaker 1

I didn't I didn't get a chance to watch much of that football, but I mean, it's it's really remarkable what they're doing with him.

And you know something really looked like a number one corner yesterday.

They really you know, really used him in a way.

But it's really we've seen Troy Franklin step up right now, and you know, I mean, I just feel like this is this is gonna be a tough This is gonna be a tough out for anybody in the AFC right now.

The way that they played that game yesterday, you know, I.

Speaker 2

Was looking at it, and uh, you know, everybody had said there was a lot of conversation when the draft was taking place with bo Nix and Sean Payton, it was that he's got his Drew Brees.

And I remember arguing at the time.

I remember arguing at the time, you did it, he might he leans a little more towards Taysom Hill than maybe even towards Drew Brees.

He's got.

You know, there's some of the breeze, like in terms of the intelligence and the competitiveness, all all that kind of stuff, but the athleticism and kind of just a playmaking type guy Drew Drew is going to beat you in the pocket on time and with like touch throws like those layer throws, up and down throws, like when you watch when you watch him.

It is exact opposite.

You know what.

Actually, remember when when Kaepernick had his little run there where it was all drive throws like Ferm firm drive throws, and then it was scramble around, make something happen.

Like it's kind of how he does a lot of that stuff.

Speaker 1

He gets to the top of his drop and if the ball's not out of his hands, he's moving, yes, but he makes good decisions.

He doesn't get hit a lot, and you know, he keeps plays alive.

And so I think everybody's learning how to play with them right now.

So that helps.

And on the other side, I mean, you look at Zach Allen yesterday, John Franklin Myers.

I mean it is they are eight deep on that defensive front.

They had ten quarterback hits between John Franken, Meyers and Jack Allen yesterday, and they chase everything.

Jordan Love is very athletic trying to climb the pocket.

Those guys, they bumped them and hit them.

You know, it didn't rough them up at all, but like they they got to them.

They were around him that entire second half when they had to try to throw the ball to get back into the game.

Speaker 2

Flip that over the other side.

You know how many times they hit Jordan Love in that game?

Sorry?

Sorry, how many times they hit bo Nicks three times?

No sacks, three quarterback hits.

Yeah, and a lot of that.

Bo Knicks moving around by the offensive line did a nice job as well.

They couldn't get to them.

That was a big part of that.

But again it's just it's go balls, drive balls, scrambles.

That's what they've been doing there.

The positive, I'll be a positive on the Green Bay side of things.

Sometimes you know when you think, gosh, maybe I was wrong about a player, and then you watch something and you go, maybe maybe this dude just needs to get some more opportunities.

We get Matthew Golden the ball a little bit three for fifty five in this game.

He looks explosive.

He makes an unbelievable adjustment down the field on outside ball, it's a little bit underthrown.

Then you see him on a dig and you can see the burst and the juice.

I'm like, Okay, I've been disappointed with the production because he hadn't really done a hole on the field.

Speaker 1

He's not been playing no, so I don't know if he was hurt inactive like I didn't know what it was, but he like he had no production over the last four or five weeks.

Speaker 2

Yeah, I'm watching that going, okay, no, no, it's in there.

He's got the ability, you know, and luck, let's be patient, let's see, you know how long it takes.

But I still am not going to give up on that one.

I think he's got a chance to be a really good player.

I'm about to shoot out here Detroit and the Rams.

The Rams ended up holding on forty one to thirty four.

I'll give you a couple receiver thoughts here.

Watched amen Ra and Puka, which was fun in the game.

Oh, it's so fun to watch him play.

Both those guys are so fun.

Speaker 1

I mean runners, the balls in the air, their ball, the way the skinny posts am on.

Speaker 2

A skinny post is it's so pretty, man, and the ball the time they're tie I mean with their quarterbacks.

And this goes to your point I think you're making here is that when you have talent and intelligence and a quarterback and in a receiver like you get something special, man, because they get on the same wavelength and they have eliteability.

Speaker 1

Well, you know, you know, Detroit on the outside looking in right now, I mean they got to They have not stacked two wins together since October fifth, so two and a half months.

But if they do get on any kind of role and they have the ability to do it, that would be a fun matchup to see in the postseason, because I feel like it's going to be a shootout regardless no matter.

I don't think the Rams can really slow them down, like the way that they attack and the way that they can protect.

As good as that front is with the Rams, they're still good enough to give Jared GoF enough time to find his receivers, whether it's Jamison.

The one thing that was really pretty alarming though, in what watching a game, is how they shut Jamir Gibbs down, like he did not get loose.

I think the longest running he had was maybe eight yards, And I think that's one thing I think maybe Detroit was counting on, was to get Jami or like just popping them in some of those runs ways capable of doing it.

Speaker 2

Well, I think they were They're gonna try and take that away, and they were going to live with whatever danger came in the past game.

And look they they made plays.

Golf made big throws.

Amara was great.

Cooka on the other side, drive routes, double moves.

He have you seen anybody that's more comfortable working in the middle of the field that he needs right now?

I mean he does.

Speaker 1

He can play in that era when the safeties were just unloading on people like he didn't probably play.

He could just play.

But like his hands, like he just he gets his hands on a ball, It doesn't matter what the defender is doing.

He's coming up with the ball.

Like every fifty to fifty ball.

It looks like he comes up with it and it makes it look like it's been his all along, like there is no you know, there is no defender, you know, amiek Robertson, whoever's trying to cover him, there is.

They're not getting it.

He's taking it away.

Speaker 2

Let me ask you about this is an aggressive comparison, But I know you have been around this player.

You see any at all of Chris Carter and Poka Nakua, Yeah, yeah, I mean Carter had.

Speaker 1

Had the big he had huge hands and a lot of one handy catches, but and he didn't have Pooka might like Chris really couldn't run very good.

He didn't need to.

But like Pooka, like that was the knock.

But there's there's some comparison there because they're gonna come up, They're gonna come up with the ball.

They're just gonna out physically for the ball.

The other part is just the production of the ram tight ends, all of them.

You know, it doesn't matter if it's Parkinson in the year that he's having, or Higbee or you know, Allen or the rookie Ferguson.

Like they get more out of their tight ends I think than any other team right now.

And in the run game too, like they're really responsible for blocking the edges and you know, just getting no safety he's out of the hole, and the nosy safeties that are trying to stop you run like they do a good job of getting a guy on.

Speaker 2

Them, and no doubt, let's get it.

Let's just get a couple thoughts here on a few more games and we can roll through these ball your Philip Rivers takeaway Seattle, they come back and win a crazy game eighteen to sixteen.

What was your takeaway on old man Rivers out there?

Speaker 1

You know he didn't embarrass himself, you know, I mean, you know, I mean it's that's kind of what like they could have probably played that game.

They held in the six field goals.

The colch defense did what they had to do.

I don't think you could have asked for a whole lot more and for what you asked of him to do.

And so he threw the ball, you know to some guys, he's probably never thrown to except for Thursday or Friday practice and Josh downs and Ty Warren.

You know, he made a couple of throws that kept him in the game, and I thought it was going to be a lot worse for him than it was.

Speaker 2

Yeah, I mean I joked around, you know about the amount of screens that you might see in this game.

I mean, they do mess it off, dusted off.

You get to get the we get some angle routes.

We're gonna ge whip, you know, mix in a couple of those with the backs.

Get some quition.

You're gonna get the tight ends out early, get them the ball.

It was just kind of a game of keepaway.

Uh.

Yeah, they were playing.

They weren't able.

I mean that's a great defense.

They weren't able to pop the runs.

I think they really would have had to have you unbelievable run game performance to get a win there.

Yeah, he made just enough plays, made a back shoulder throw there to give him a field goal opportunity, and the and the defense you know, couldn't couldn't hold on.

But Seattle's kind of I mean, they've got this Thursday night game, Baldy, I mean they've got a chance to win this division.

Get there.

Speaker 1

I mean, you're going to come down to this game for the most part, and you don't know what that defense is capable of doing, just because that secondary is so talented, and the way that they can blitz and pressure, Like if you get to Stafford, you put them down or you force a couple of pop ups, and there's no Dvante out there.

You won't be out there like you can.

I can see Witherspoon being on Nikua, you know, and then or you know, you could, you could train, you can, you can change it up, like I They've got they've got real chess pieces for the title.

I think some real chess pieces to really limit some of the receivers in some of the passing game.

The guy that's really come on over the last month for the Ramsow has been Koram and they really have a good one to two punch there, so we'll see.

And they in Seattle's run defense like those horses up front.

Speaker 2

They final that's fun to watch that, all right, Jets, Jags.

Jets has fired their defensive coordinator, Steve Wilks.

I don't really need to get into the Jets.

But how about the Jags forty eight to twenty.

I saw I was there for the rebirth of that franchise when the Chargers came in there after the buy and then they just went to town and they have not slowed down since then.

They are on a roll as much as anybody right now.

Speaker 1

Have you when was the last time DJ you saw a running back catch three touchdown passes?

Speaker 2

I can't think of one.

Speaker 1

I mean, I couldn't think of it.

Speaker 2

I was going Larry, Larry Centers.

I guarantee Larry Centers has done that at some point in time.

Speaker 1

I know we had one hundred catches one year.

Maybe maybe he did it, maybe LT did it in some game, But I mean I was trying to just go through my rolodecks.

But he beat the Jets on three different He beat him on a Texas route, he beat him on a little switch route on the outside with Jacoby Myers, you know, and then he beat him on a screen where every single offensive lineman was forty yards downfield for the touchdown to celebrate.

I don't think Trevor could play any better.

I know you could.

There's no way.

And I've got all the rosters here, DJ, There's no way you could possibly know who was playing the secondary for the Jets.

Nobody.

I didn't know who some of those guys were.

I'm so like, you know, it was a preseason roster for the Jets defense.

But the good part is Jacksfield didn't They didn't waste any time.

And that's what they're doing with these bad teams.

They're just putting them away.

They're not letting them even sniff the field right now.

Speaker 2

Yeah, it's like, you know, when it's the night before trashy, I tell my son, Hey, we don't need to wait till midnight.

It's four o'clock.

In after him, get those trash cans up to the curve.

Man, They did not mess around in that one last thought here Minnesota, Dallas.

Man, that's a crucial loss for the Cowboys and JJ McCarthy had a nice performance after an early turnover.

Speaker 1

Well, he has played really well the last last two games, or maybe it was at three, I mean last two weeks.

He's looking like he's turning the corner.

He's not turning it over, he's not seeing goats, he's making good decisions like he's kind of looking like the guy.

Now.

You know, these games don't mean as much as they did earlier in the season, so maybe, But you know, I thought all the guys Bullert, greenerd and Andrew Van Ginkel and all those guys gave Dak and the offense a great deal of problems with the defense looked like it was just a complete team effort right there and what they were able to do.

He didn't see much from Pickings in that game.

So I felt like Dallas after a couple of weeks where they looked a little promising, like they've just completely fallen off.

Speaker 2

Yeah, I'll be there to see him this next week.

Here Chargers go to take on the Cowboys in a huge game for the Chargers and the Cowboys holding on for dear life.

Er.

I think if Green Bay wins one game, i think they're out.

So they're not looking great for the Cowboys in their postseason chances here.

Hey, Baldy, this was fun.

Speaker 1

Man.

Speaker 2

We'll get we got Bucky back with us next week and do this all over again.

But appreciate it was great seeing you yesterday.

By the way, thanks to you you too.

DJ.

Speaker 1

I just got to tell you that I did waste an hour of my time today watching the Eagles beat the Raiders.

That was the That's that's the worst team I've seen a long time.

Speaker 2

Well, they have sixty sixty something yards of total offense.

Speaker 1

I mean they threw a couple of checkdowns, complete a couple of checkdowns, but I mean, honestly, like to a man, they don't know how to set it.

I mean, it was just bad football.

Speaker 2

And so I talked to somebody with the Eagles during the week and they were, you know, coming off a disappointing loss of the charters and we just got it.

I'm like, what do you there's nothing to worry about it, I don't think you guys.

Well, here, you guys take a week off and beat the Raiders.

Speaker 1

They dost it off the Super Bowl playbook.

They threw it fifteen times and they ran it forty seven times, you know, and they took the gas off the pedal in the entire fourth or they could have scored fifty.

Speaker 2

So yeah, eighty yards to seventy five.

Baldi in that game.

Speaker 1

I haven't seen anything that that one sided a long time.

Speaker 2

Yeah, I remember they used to do the thing in the pregame when the Raiders were in Oakland.

They would put up that that old school video and I would say, they're thirty one teams in the National Football League and then there's the Oakland Raiders, and I was like, well, yeah, kind of actually what it looked like, that's would have looked like.

Not a compliment.

All right, man, for the best, buddy, We'll see you next week.

Speaker 1

You got DJ take care of me.

Speaker 2

There goes Baldi.

Always enjoy these Mondays.

I hope you guys enjoy them as well.

We will see it tomorrow.

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