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Speaker 1

Welcome back to Devo and Joe on this victory Monday.

I'm your host, James Debo Harrison.

I'm here with my co host, Joe Hayden.

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How you how you doing today, Joe.

Speaker 2

Man Debo, I'm feeling good Man.

Speaker 3

You know Stellers came through with that good early morning.

Speaker 2

I'm saying, well, it was good Stealers.

Speaker 1

I could have sworn last Monday you was you was wearing a Browns jersey.

Speaker 3

I keep Debo Devo every time, every time this happens, I always tell you I have multi loyalties.

So when the Stealers win, I feel happy about it.

When the Browns win, I feel happy about it.

So I'm able to hold on to do a little bit of both.

Speaker 1

What happened when we played twice a year.

Speaker 3

When we play twice twice a year, When we play twice a year, I'm neutral.

Speaker 2

I want to see good football.

I want the bet.

So you're going into the Hall of Fame is neutral?

Speaker 3

See why you keep going about this hall of Fame thing, Devo, I got loyalties.

You are obviously with the Stillers, and we're gonna rock with that but it's okay.

I can I not show the stillers some love too?

Is that okay?

It's okay.

Speaker 1

I just, I just I'm just trying to get a clarification.

Speaker 2

The people keep asking me, Joe, the people.

Speaker 3

Every time you ask me, I'm gonna give you more and more clarity every time.

Speaker 2

Whatever.

Speaker 1

Let's talk about let's talk about my I mean, are are are stealing?

Man?

You know we're out there in Dublin, Ireland, going out there the first time ever, getting that good dub Early in the morning, early, mister Rooney.

Of course, yes, sir, early in the morning, nine thirty.

I ain't gonna lie to you.

I didn't.

I didn't.

I didn't like how our first possession went like.

We get sacked on the first down, brother, and it looked like it was just a pure miss assignment.

We get pressured on the next two and then we got to punk around.

Yeah, earliest Minnesota get the ball.

They started driving down the field and we get a fumble baby for a touchdown recovery.

I'm like, hey, this is what that's what that's what your thought.

That's what I thought.

And then I saw the running back he went on head and touched the ball.

They had to do some rude stuff and all that.

Speaker 2

Whatever it was, Yes, yes that was I didn't like it.

Speaker 1

But they helped us out.

They had a legal man downfield.

We came in there with that sack them on third down, held him to a field goal.

You know, yes, but we get back out there.

You know what I'm saying.

We got to get that man involved.

Who that man is?

Speaker 3

That man is d K medan k Man, cat damn man.

Speaker 1

We went on head.

We started moving him around.

We said, you know, when we ain't gonna put him out there always at the one, We're gonna move him to the two and the three.

We said, Rogers.

He instead of just straight out running the run.

Listen, you man that been in this league forever, you wanted the best to ever do it.

Look what you see and we're gonna give you a run pass option.

So we started doing a little little dink and dunk here on the run pass option.

He don't like what he seid.

Speaker 3

He gone ahead and he tossed it off and what we do, what we do your man game well.

Speaker 2

Ended up finishing it off.

We got a TV on.

Speaker 1

This, sir, yes, sir, touchdown game.

Speaker 3

Well, brother was and The one thing I loved about that too, was in that drive.

You said DK had three catches on that drive and game, well, brother, even just he was toting that rock and just being able to give him the ball, give him chances.

Speaker 1

He was.

Speaker 2

He did his thing on that drive.

Speaker 3

So I love to see that when they went down there, scored made it seventy three.

Speaker 1

Back to the bike because I see what they can't do much and nothing.

Man, they come down there.

You know they get to play here and there, but you know, defense gone ahead and you know they blitting on them boys.

They go ahead, get a nice little false start and what happened again, sat that put that ball on over the here and what we were just talking about some man, what would that man name?

Speaker 3

Was the one that we talked about that we needed to just get involved, just get his feet wet.

Speaker 2

They say he hasn't been being explosive.

They don't know what it is.

Speaker 3

And he DK, what did he eighty yard took it to the crew.

My man was running like a mixture of Adrian Peterson.

Speaker 2

He had a little pacheco.

Speaker 3

He was grinding getting up the sideline and I love the way that he finished it on the three and still ducked in the buddy and still got into the end zone.

That play was unbelievable.

DK was he looked, he looked great.

Speaker 2

Hit.

Speaker 1

The man said, I ain't going out of bound, like going out of bounds.

I ain't this far not to go in here and get me six.

I ain't about to run in here and not get me six.

What you're talking about?

Speaker 2

That that that was five, bro, That was That was grade A DK.

That was prime.

DK metcalf You running down the field looking sweet?

Question?

So that turned the fourteen three it's fourteen three debo.

Speaker 3

We're we're at this point.

I'm like, oh, we might as well.

This could be the game.

We might as well just run away with it.

Defense performing, offense performing.

Speaker 2

Let's keep it.

Speaker 1

Going, no question.

Minnesota.

You know they did a little something, defense being a little bit, but we don't.

Speaker 2

We don't break, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1

We went on head, we got got heavy, we started blessening them, you know what I'm saying, doing what we had to do.

What happened then.

Speaker 4

Interception Elliott interception.

Yeah, so we get a pick, we get to pick.

But then after that still his field goal.

Speaker 1

Well, this is what happened, man, You know what happened that Rogers went on ahead and took off.

He fumbled the rock, you know, but we recovered it, you know what I'm saying.

And then and then we got you know, we got we got sacked later and.

Speaker 2

Settle for the field goal to tempt.

Speaker 1

But uh, that damn Rogers he came in there and blocked it.

You know what, I shouldn't have made him Player of the Week last week.

That's what I shouldn't have did.

He might not have blocked that field goal.

He had to do.

He had to be he had to be offense.

They come out there, man, they go for I think it was like ten twelve on the pass, but then we get a rough in the past of that, add fifteen on it.

Then we get caught in the blitz.

They hit us for seventeen, then thirty, but you know then then don't break.

Speaker 2

That's exactly ahead.

Speaker 1

We give them a low three.

We give them low three halftime, sixteen fourteen, we got fourteen six.

Yeah, fourteen six, ain't I ain't tripping, you know what I'm saying.

My man, DK got one hundred and twenty two at the half.

You know, rochess twelve four came for one sixty five.

You know, I ain't gonna lie win.

See, yeah, he went sixteen or twenty four, hundred and fifty and Jefferies, you know, Jefferson, he had he had like one hundred, maybe ninety seven ninety five something like that.

Speaker 3

Bro, it's the big They were giving up a lot of big players.

They were keeping them out of the end zone.

But they definitely too many just blown coverages, those over ops.

You gotta keep eyes on them, I think sometimes then those blown coverages, we're gonna get into them in the second half when we could have really ran away with it, you know what I'm saying, But we just we got to tighten up.

Speaker 2

It's definitely been but don't break.

Speaker 1

But you can't just people running scot We come out, they get the rock, you know, talk for a lost sack all that U Let's go still the ball and three and out come on man.

Mum hm, we're doing quick, quick, three doing.

We get back in there though, sack fumble, sack, but they recovered it anyway, they recover it, but sack again and then they went on heead and tried to pick it and you know it's another man on that team that's on it.

Speaker 3

That man TJ.

Swatt is always going to come through pick catch, run with that thing, bro that thing.

Speaker 2

That was that thing.

Speaker 1

It was a good short feels.

Speaker 2

Go out there.

Speaker 1

What they do TD to who to who the running back?

Listen, Man, we getting we getting, we get We're getting, were getting.

Everybody involved.

Office did a better job running the ball to the especially with that that that pass run option.

I wouldn't I wasn't tripping, man, I wasn't trip.

Speaker 2

I was very very It looked good, man, it looked good, especially in the first half.

Speaker 3

That's still going into the second half game well, just making sure that we end of the day having him run the ball.

Even if he's not getting like ten yards of pop.

He was getting about five six yards a pop.

That's going to make the defense that's gonna put DK in these one on one in these one.

Speaker 1

On one matchups for show for show.

So it's what I'm trying to get.

Get get to, man, SA game came alive.

I think of the six sacs we had, I believe three or four of them was on third down situational ball.

Man's that's what we do, man, that's what we do.

We go ahead and move the ball a little around a little bit.

You know, we we settled.

We settled for a nice little little little field goal.

Speaker 2

We gotta feel we gotta field goal.

Speaker 1

But uh again, Minnisoda get the ball.

We had, we had Jalen get hurt and uh I think that was the play where we had that blown coverage.

Dude, just yes, man, Scott Free.

Speaker 3

Running scot Free.

That's what I'm talking about.

We can't have those, We can't have that at all.

Now, Scott Free TD.

They end up getting this.

Now we're in a fight, and they got the two point persons.

Speaker 1

Now we're in a fight.

Speaker 2

Twenty four fourteen.

Speaker 1

You know what else happened?

Twenty four They played their renegade again at the wrong time.

See, that's not when they ended up scoring fifteen after they played their renegade again at the wrong time.

Speaker 3

When they ended up getting that touchdown.

Debo, because with the score now is twenty four to fourteen.

Speaker 1

Twenty four, No, it's not twenty four twenty one right now, right, No, it's twenty one fourteen.

You're right, you're right, you're right, you're right.

No, it's not it's twenty one, twenty.

Speaker 3

Four, twenty four fourteen because it still has just got that field goal.

Speaker 1

You're right, yeah, listen here, man, I'm just telling y'all, y'all can't play the renegade at the right time.

Don't do it.

Last time y'all played it, it was against Seattle when they was about to kick off to us, and that did not end.

Okay.

We come out there after that, though, and we do it.

We do a hot three and out like yeah, well yeah, yeah, like three and out what anyway?

Speaker 2

Man, get out here.

Speaker 1

And the you know, the defense they are, they gave up a lot of yards, Dude, I didn't.

I didn't really much appreciate the yard this day that my guys gave up.

But we're back into it.

We end up letting them boys score touchdown?

When was it, yes, that next was it?

That next possession?

We let them boys score touch down?

We ain't let them score touch down there, you know, and trying to let.

Speaker 2

Him especial time.

Speaker 3

And then when we I think a lot of the stuff that we ended up doing at the end of the game too, was our play calling.

When we ended up getting the ball back on fourth and we were not going forward on fourth down.

I understand.

I understood the one you understood.

Speaker 1

I understood honestly, like I understood the end of the u of the one you know, first down of the end of the fourth down that he didn't go for.

And that basically is like we're a ben not break defense.

They're going to need room to bend.

Now, if you had went there, went for it and didn't get it, the yardist that they ended up getting would have got in the field goal.

Speaker 2

You see what I'm saying.

No, I feel it.

Speaker 3

I feel like I just I just think at the end of the day, I mean, no, what about the play that we went for when we went for on fourth down, when we did go forward on fourth down and they ended up I think it was a good call that we went for it on fourth But I think we could have just running them out and passed it.

Speaker 2

We tried to run.

We was fourth and goal from the four yard line.

Speaker 3

Obviously we could hopefully be able to get the run and hopefully he scores.

But just with the option of having a rod to spread, I think there's a lot more five yard think dunk pass plays that you can do to get a touchdown, and that on that play then.

Speaker 1

Running the ball right, But see that was another and we went for it on fourth, didn't get it, and they ended up scoring touch down all the way from down there.

Speaker 3

No, I mean, yeah, that was the bloom because that's the that's the bloom cover you're saying with U with the we be on cover four on the side.

Speaker 1

We had slay and my man.

Speaker 3

The safety step up and that was great effort by my man that walked him.

Speaker 1

Down to who was that that was run?

It was a linebacker what's his name?

Speaker 3

Minebacker?

Oh my business.

That man ran had to run twenty somethings an hour.

Speaker 1

He was sliding.

No, whatever receiver was slow, I don't know.

It was probably a combination of the ball and slide and do what the combination of both normal receiver would be.

Speaker 3

No for sure, but I at that, I mean, I definitely know what you're saying that that was just a blown coverage.

We went for it and they ended up like you said, it ended up scoring on that.

But god damn, they had to drop.

They had to go.

Speaker 2

Bro Peyton Wilson, that's the name, bro.

Speaker 3

Yes, heyst listen, list out Payson Willison.

Speaker 1

Listen.

Speaker 2

They say they say twenty two eight.

Speaker 1

Twenty two eight, miles twenty two point four eight miles an hour.

Speaker 3

He went to go get that.

Boy, he went to get that.

He did that, boy is fatoy.

That's after you need.

That's that's the effort you need.

They're gonna play that because he ended up saving a lot of time.

They would have scored a whole lot quicker.

He made him run a whole lot more plays, ended up getting in the end zone.

Speaker 1

Take Oh yeah, they burned off sixty one seconds.

Bro.

Oh yeah, for sure.

That that definitely helped us, especially towards the end as they were, you know, as they were going down, getting a little stuff here and there, and of course you know we got the sack close it out, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3

No, no, No, definitely the defense went out there, finished to close it out the way that they had to.

No, didn't didn't let them get in field goal range.

Speaker 2

No, that's great.

Speaker 3

I just think the two players, I mean, everything's twenty twenty.

Speaker 2

Hindsight is twenty twenty.

Speaker 3

But you know I would have just tried to run a pass there on that one and then on the last fourth, just not letting them get the ball back at all.

Speaker 1

You know what I'm saying, everything worked out for you.

I understand what it's saying.

But like like like I'm saying, we're ahead, we're here.

Yeah, you did the same thing.

If we don't make it, we just gave him a short field.

They don't need three to tire.

Who knows what happens in overtime.

Let me punt this ball.

Give my defense the opportunity.

We already at that time got five sacks.

We're pressuring him, we're having you know, we're having success.

I'm gonna make you have to drive the field some length before you can get into field goal range to be able to kick it.

And you know, that's exactly what they did.

Like I said, we're a defense that's you know then don't don't don't break and sometimes break though, So.

Speaker 2

They need that room.

Speaker 1

They need that room.

Speaker 2

To ben.

Speaker 1

You know.

Speaker 3

The good thing for sure, Like like you said, too, you could you could do it both ways, you know what I'm saying.

Like if they like you said, when they did, when we did go for it and they didn't get it, they still went down to score, So still punting the ball off to the defense, putting them in a situation whatever, like they could have still been able to get the touchdown, but like you said, they needed some space to bend.

So I feel it both ways.

I just like, if you got the ball in your hands, don't give it.

Don't give them the opportunity.

You know what I'm saying, Like, just if you can close it out with a with a quick play, with one time with a play, let's do it.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker 1

The things I liked about this game is the the options that they gave.

You know, they let Rogers have have more control, especially with that run pass option.

You don't like what you see he gone ahead and dip it out.

That's nothing but a short run anyway, and plus you know you get you get yards after the catch.

Hopefully the offensive line still they blocked better, you know, but you know they still they still need to do a little bit better.

DK of course involved early, that is a cast.

You got to give him involved early.

Still, a defense played the run better, dude.

They pressed the quarterback.

They got six sacks.

I think four or three or four were on third down.

They were just situationally better in that.

Speaker 2

I loved it.

Speaker 1

The other side, you know, things we can we can get better at is just protecting Rogers better as a defense we're giving up too many yards.

You know, at some point the you know, the bending, you know you've been you've been too much.

At some point you know you're gonna make it a little too weak.

It's go start snapping, you know.

No, for sure, I think I think I don't know good or bad that we're going to start to live and die by the blitz though, Like that's something that I saw, like we're we're getting a lot of guys up to the line and blitzing to try and you know, slow down the run to to put pressure on them.

For the past, it was a couple of situations where they caught us in blitzes and you know, they ended up getting getting yardage because he was able to see it and get the ball away in time.

Speaker 3

I think I definitely know what you're saying.

I mean everything you were saying with the I'm liking what I'm saying.

The running game, the run, the defensive run game was a whole lot better with the blitzing part too.

My only thing is, as long as we don't have people running scott free, like if there's catching tackles, if there's blitz, there's gonna be little windows where people gonna be able to make plays, catch the ball, tackling.

If there's people running scott free through our defense, that's just the only thing that I don't like.

We don't need those those big miscues, those big explosive plays.

If we could just keep those down, you know what I'm saying.

Everything else will be fine.

Catching tackles gonna happen.

Blitzing to stop the run, blitten to put more pressure, that's gonna happen, bang plays, catch and tackle.

Speaker 2

But when people are running.

Speaker 3

Through our defense wide open and nobody's there, that's just the that's just the thing that's gonna mess it all the way up.

So the bend but don't break is always kind of gonna be what we're going to do.

Make plays, being able to create turnovers, punching the balls out, being real, you know what I'm saying.

Elliott making picks, TJ and making picks were always opportunistic.

Strip sack fumbles, getting after the quarterback.

Six seven sacks this game, you know what I'm saying.

So I think that is something that we're gonna still be able to do.

But eliminating people running down your defense, these are going to be like thirty yard plays forty yard plays.

If you take down those like we're having two or three a game, that's sixty seventy yards.

Speaker 2

You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3

Per if you just knock off three plays, you know what I'm saying, people running through our defense so that that your defense will be so much better and it won't look as bad and that everything is kind of flowing when you don't give up chunk plays.

Speaker 1

Yeah, yeah, but you know, I think that was part of what you know, Cam had said last week, you know, when he was when he was talking actually when we when we talked about too.

Speaker 2

With h.

Speaker 1

The other man, TJ that third quarter, that third quarter interception he had made him only the seventh player to have one hundred sacks and eight interceptions in the.

Speaker 2

Career all time.

Speaker 1

The other six they all in the Hall of Fame, Baby Chas Taylor, Richard Dan, Chris Dolman, Jason Taylor, Julius Peppers, Ricky Jackson, no question, and.

Speaker 2

That's that's just that's elite company.

Speaker 1

That offensive man, the yack munster.

Five yards of the tenth bud.

They say, whoa, the stealers only average five yards per attempt in the air.

That's the fewest.

But guess who lead the league and yards after the catch, Jack Stealers, Steelers.

Speaker 3

Yeah, because you know you're getting at the DK and you're getting at the Jared Warren and getting up up out of it after like I think him and like Gibs, you know what I'm saying.

Those running backs that just get the ball hands like you can give him a little screen.

Any of those quick passes, those are extended runs.

Those are like no, y'all er, but once you get missing that twenty yards, that's gonna.

Speaker 2

Count all that.

Yeah, yeah, for sure for Shure.

Speaker 1

So all in all, I'm I'm extremely extremely happy as you can see my guys win again.

I gotta I gotta go, you know, do me another cigar.

I mean, I'm gonna mess around.

If I get cancer, I'm gonna put that on the Stellers.

You know, y'all y'all winning too much.

Speaker 3

Win you got you hit them good stuff.

Speaker 1

Look, let's get on over here to to your to your browns.

Speaker 5

Man God third thirty fold to ten, What Joe, Joe?

Speaker 2

What happened?

Speaker 6

Man?

Speaker 2

So?

Speaker 3

I mean it was it wasn't It wasn't a good showing.

It wasn't a good showing first drive was amazing.

Everything looked good, Flacco was doing what he needed to do.

But I'm just not I'm not a fan of Flacco anymore.

I'm wanting us to do like I mean, even if it's Dylan Gabriel, even if it's Dylan Gabriel or shr Door Sanders, something kind of has to shake because I just don't think that he's given.

Speaker 2

Us a chance to win anymore.

Speaker 3

Like we understand the event that's going to come through and be consistent.

But if you're giving U zero touchdowns and two interceptions, that's not that you're you're hurting.

Speaker 2

Us more than earth.

You're not.

Speaker 3

You're not You're not just steadying the ship.

You're hurting us.

You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2

I can see I can put somebody else.

Speaker 3

I can do bad all by myself, so I could put somebody else in that can do different than this, Like give us a spark, give us something.

I don't care if it's your door, I don't care if it's Dylan before the browns Now, I'm just over Flacco and the first drive it was amazing.

Speaker 2

He shows me that he can make play to Judy, the touch.

Speaker 3

Pass and all that but then like the picks the pick before, like it's a miscommunication.

Why are you just launching the ball and throwing it over there?

Like that's not a good play.

That's a bad play.

When we're trying to play against the Lions and beat them, We're not gonna win with that type of football.

So I'm just kind of good on our defense.

You put us in bad situations.

They can only fight for so long, you know what I'm saying.

You keep putting us in bad situations and not not in positions to win.

Speaker 2

I love our defense.

They might not have played the best.

Speaker 1

But you got to realize they think on maybe three of the scores that they had, I think maybe two touchdowns in one field goal, they were already in uh in your in your in your territory, like it was, They're already on the other side.

I think it's like thirty five, forty even closer on on one of them, like oh my.

Speaker 3

Man, Djv's pick he almost picked sixty.

Speaker 1

He went out like the yall.

You know you can't, like you said, he's hurting the defense.

If the defense isn't on the field to even try and stop them, special teams didn't help.

Speaker 2

Even you know.

Speaker 1

So, I mean, when you look at it, what is it you're looking at some seven twenty one, You're looking at twenty four points that was scored while the defense was either at a disadvantage or not even on the field, Like you can't.

Speaker 2

So that's why I can't.

Speaker 3

Literally, I can't blame it on and say that, No, the Browns defense is playing bad and gave up thirty four points.

Speaker 2

Let's look how they gave up the thirty four points.

Let's look at how.

Speaker 3

Far they had to travel to get these touchdowns, and look what they're playing against.

Speaker 2

They're not going into bumps, I'm Brown.

Speaker 3

They're running great pick plays, like on the thing they're making, They're making them fight for what they get.

So Lions went out there played.

The Lions are a great team.

So you're not going to beat them.

If you're beating yourself when you don't have a good offense, putting your defense in a bad position, that's not really.

Speaker 2

You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1

So like when you look at them, dude, like you said, the defense didn't play bad.

Yes, they gave up points, but they're working with a short field, like and you know, three to four of shit, three of those situations.

The fourth one, they didn't even get to touch the field and they still only gave up like two hundred and seventy five yards or something like two hundred and eighty yards.

Speaker 3

Brother in the first half.

In the first half, the Lions went three and out.

First drive, punt, the second drive they scored.

They went down the field.

Did they think.

Speaker 2

Third drive they had a field goal and.

Speaker 3

Then punt punt, and then they got the ball on the one yard line from the pick, I mean three yard line from the pick.

But DJ reed and they ended up getting the they scored on like fourth down.

So the Browns defense, at the end of the day, they were performing at a high level.

But you can't be backed up and be at the three yard line now and expect to you know what I'm saying, do everything that you're supposed to do.

So I think that I just I think it's a time for us to switch at quarterback for the Browns.

Just give us a spark, do something something different.

I'm sure door, But if Dylan Gabriels number two and he's number three, I don't care.

Put somebody else out there.

Let's see what they can do.

Speaker 1

Yeah, yeah, I think It's like you said, you gotta go to the two.

Speaker 2

You can't just jump to the three.

Speaker 1

But I think now, you know what I'm saying, Like everybody want to see door.

I understand that.

But they they can't just jump from they one today three.

You know what I'm saying.

They gotta they gotta, they.

Speaker 2

Gotta process that they would, you know, need to go through.

Speaker 1

Are just emotion Yeah, you're very You're very emotional, you know, for a guy whose team won.

I'm emotional because as still as they did, did you hit my first?

Speaker 2

Yeah?

Speaker 1

I heard you said a lot of things.

Man, you be double talking.

Speaker 2

Man.

Speaker 1

Let's get over here to Baltimore.

Man, I know you happy about that?

Man?

Are you happy about that Baltimore can't see game?

Speaker 2

You know what though, at the end of the day, I am.

Speaker 3

Happy that the Rave, you know, if the Ravens are losing, you know, right now, especially when we want still isn't Browns and in our division.

Speaker 2

I'm just feel bad.

Speaker 3

For Lamar because he's now I mean, once he went out the game, obviously they didn't have a chance.

Speaker 2

Yeah, that wasn't until lately though, But I mean, I know, but I'm saying it's still still still even with him in there.

Speaker 3

The Ravens team is not The defense is terrible.

The defense is playing terrible, and they're getting injuries.

The best player that was balling out there is my man in the corner, Wiggins, and he just went down and got hurt.

Lamar Jackson with a hamstring injury.

There's just so many guys out there that are hurt and are I don't think that they're performing that way.

Speaker 1

So on the side of the ball, right right, I mean, they came out that first drive and they you know, looked like they was about to do their thing, you know, looked like it was little resistance went down there, and I'm like, okay, and then Kansas City proceeds to do what twenty unanswered.

The next possession, they get a feel goal.

They still get The only reason they get a field goal is because in that drive they had a couple drops for passes that dudes, you know, they could have they could have actually you know, held on to and continue to drive.

Mar He gets his first pick again.

Kansas City they go another I think it's twelve thirteen plays, get another field goal, then five plays a touchdown.

Speaker 2

You know, I don't know, Kansas City is their drive.

Speaker 3

They only they had to their first two drives of field goals and after that it was just it was tds.

Speaker 1

Oh, no question it was.

And then the Raves went for it on fourth down.

Speaker 2

Don't get it.

Speaker 1

They turned it on downs.

They give Kansas City to short field.

Six plays later we got another Tuddy going forward on fourth.

Speaker 3

Down two but and he threw the ball away on fourth down like that, like that that.

These are the things I'm not gidding.

You don't have a it's fourth down.

You gotta give somebody a chance.

Speaker 1

You don't do nothing but throw that thing all the way to the back at the safety.

Give yourself an opportunity to get more field.

Speaker 3

Something something, make it, make it a punt, Like throw it deep, deep, you know what I'm saying, because at the end of the day, the ball from that right there, you know what I'm saying, so nothing worse can happen, and then pick six in it.

Speaker 2

But like, throw it deep, high, something, give somebody.

Speaker 1

Somebody go be one of them.

BB's gonna be thirsty and try and grab onto that thing.

For sure, not realizing you just went ahead, did a did an interception punt?

Speaker 3

You know what I'm going to pick that.

I'm going to pick that one thousand question.

No, DB's going to be nobody gonna back that ball.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

Then after they do the sixth play touchdown drive, Lamar he fumbled the rock, but they got a break and City missed the field goal, so they went on ahead.

They actually you know, took advantage of that one.

They went ahead and made it ten to twenty.

Then, but they first.

Speaker 2

Drive was good when they scored, and then their last drive.

Speaker 3

Going for the halftime, they got a field Those were the two best that they got right there.

Speaker 1

And then then the second half was just basically more of the same, you know with Kansas City.

I think the Ravens got got a field goal early there, and then from there Lamar ended.

Speaker 3

Upansas City came out, Kansas City came out of halftime and scored.

Speaker 1

Yeah, it was like I said, it was more the same, you know, from the first half.

But Lamar once Lamar got hurt, you know, that was that was really it.

Speaker 2

Man.

Speaker 3

When they put Russian and he did the same thing.

He looked like he was scared as hell out there.

His first series that he did.

You saw he threw he threw the ball away on fourth down.

Speaker 1

To it all the way away.

Now, Yeah, I'm like, Brodie, he thought he had another down or something.

I don't know what that was.

Speaker 3

Yeah, because then he stood there like like it was a fifth down.

I'm like, no, go to the sideline, You're out.

You know what I'm saying.

Like he's standing there like like it's fifth down.

I'm like, what are you doing?

You were nervous out there.

The Ravens they got they got some.

Speaker 1

Now you got Lamar hurt, which was the only thing that really kept you in the fight in any of these games.

Because the defense is trash okay, and now that they missing six starters, they super trash okay.

Bro Like the offense they made like they they couldn't even run the ball, no more like they only handed the ball.

They only ran the ball a total of ten times in the first half, bro and five of those was Lamar.

Speaker 2

Yeah, I couldn't.

Speaker 3

They said, they gave a stat where in the first and like the last eight quarters it was doing Like the second quarter of that game, Derrick Henry only carried the ball like eight times, eight to ten times in the last six quarters, like a lot of that time they were down.

Speaker 2

So you know that I.

Speaker 1

Understand, but a lot of the time that they were down, they had a lot of time to try and come back.

You know what I'm saying, It wasn't like they were I'm with you.

I'm saying, I don't think they need they need.

Speaker 2

To use him.

Speaker 1

Oh yeah, you're not going to use and you're just gonna do what you've been doing.

You might as well let that man go, cut him, do something, because you ain't using him, You're paying him a whole bunch of money.

Speaker 2

Like, we're gonna have to work through this.

Speaker 1

He's gonna have to, you know, he's gonna have to figure this whole ball security thing out.

Like we can't have you sitting on the sideline and I know what you can do.

We just need you to hold onto the rock.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker 3

The worst thing that could have possibly happened though, to the Ravens was the only reason why anything is still going semi possible.

Speaker 2

Good is cousin Lamar Jackson.

Speaker 3

They do have him on the team and they know that he can be able to try to make things shape if he's hurt.

Speaker 2

He's hurt.

Speaker 1

How that's that hamstring?

You know, you come back too early.

You ain't nothing but one uh, too hard of a take off, trying to you know, open up away from pulling that thing again.

So how long do they let him shit out?

Tilly one hundred till he eighty, Tilly eighty five till he ninety?

Like what you do.

He's a running quarterback, so you're gonna have to make sure you get him as healthy as possible because if you go out there and you re injure something that's already injured, you know it's gonna be worse.

Speaker 2

It's gonna be longer, Oh for sure.

Speaker 3

I mean, look, it's his interest is making sure that he's healthy and returns at one hundred percent so he can always He has a long career left and he wants to be able to play as long as he can.

Speaker 2

And then it's gonna be what is the Ravens interest?

Speaker 3

Because you got my man rush out there looking like he doesn't know what the hell he's doing.

So they're gonna be like, if we're gonna keep if we're gonna be losing games until Lamar, like, we need you back quick.

Because from my perspective, it doesn't look too good for the Ravens that it doesn't look like the defense they're continuing to lose players and they're just not playing well.

So if they lose Lamar and their defense is not playing well, they loose.

They're continuing to lose better players like Wiggins.

It's not there's no I don't see a plan for them to get any better right now.

So from my last question that we had about, is their window closing, Yes, well now the window is definitely closing.

It's looking crazy like they're not getting healthier.

The players that you.

Speaker 1

Do out there are performing, and even when they were there, the defense was still doing some boo boo.

Man, you got Lamar, he don't suffer the hamstring.

You know.

Speaker 2

Baltimore is one in three for the.

Speaker 1

First time since twenty fifteen, two games behind.

Guess who my Stiller is in The AFC are still a story, I keep saying mine.

I'm sorry about that.

Man.

The rower our are we are stealers are stealers?

Our I got you?

We we we we we The defense, the Ravens defense is allowing thirty three point three points per game.

Dude, that's the worst in the NFL right now.

Bro, you can't win like that, like.

Speaker 2

Like can't what what's your move?

Speaker 1

What's your move?

What's your next move?

Like, what are you going to do over there?

All ball?

What you're gonna do?

Speaker 2

You are?

Speaker 1

I don't know.

Speaker 2

That's why it doesn't look I don't know the answer.

I don't know the answers way.

I don't know because like, yeah, that's what he getting paid the big bucks.

Speaker 3

But like health wise, you just gotta have I mean, they're not making tackles Like it just doesn't look like good brand of defense at all.

You know what I'm saying, Like are people in their right positions?

People are missing tackles, people are blowing coverages like I mean, that's a that's a that's.

Speaker 2

A that's a.

Speaker 1

Kansas City Now they also got they got they got exail.

You're worthy back now they got it and they had their biggest scoring day in more than two years.

Man, is it you think you think KC back?

This is what I've never left.

Speaker 2

I think they just need they never They ain't go nowhere.

Speaker 3

You got Patty Mahomes, he's standing upright with Andy Reid.

You know what I'm saying.

They got Chris Jones on defense.

My man twenty two on the corner is balling.

They have a good defense.

You know what I'm saying they may not be the one of the best in the league, but they're very, very opportunistic, you know what I'm saying, and not just people running Scott Free, so them playing them playing.

When you have Patrick Mahomes and we want him to be throwing for four hundred yards five touchdowns, what he normally does, this is just execution.

This is just great quarterback play.

Being able to get everybody involved thor Hill, being able to throw it to your running backs, being able to get it to Travis Kelce, being able to being able to use your run game even if it's not effective, being able to still make sure you can lean on it, hand the ball off, so sometimes there is one on one coverages back there.

So I think that the Chiefs they've been in they've been playing football for so long.

Patrick Mahomes is such a great quarterback that he's not worried about it.

They're trying to get their team together.

He's gonna get everybody involved.

They didn't have a lot of their rice still isn't there.

They lost worthy first game of the season, so they still just trying to puck and play and figure it out.

Speaker 2

But they know it's a long season.

Speaker 3

And as long as Travis t I mean, long as Patrick Mahomes is healthy, They're always going to have a chance.

So them just being able to show like him still being able to get it too.

All these receivers guys getting back into the group juju.

You know what I'm saying, being like just having a good quarterback like that and having comparable receivers that I may.

Speaker 2

Say that.

Speaker 1

Receivers that catch the ball, I don't.

I don't care how you know how great they are at doing everything else.

As long as they could catch the ball, he's going to get it to him.

They secure that ball, he's going to get it to him.

Like it's it's it's almost like a you know, like like a Tom Brady.

You know what I'm saying, Where you get the receiver, long as he can catch, you're going to be able to move a rock.

It don't matter.

Speaker 3

And the one thing I I said, and the thing too with them was they were still they were trying to get the run game going a little bit for him.

Speaker 2

They were handed it to a checkout, giving it to hunt.

Speaker 3

You know what I'm saying, Like they may not be getting the most yards, but just still how to keep them.

Speaker 1

Honest, you can't have them sitting there back.

You know, they got a few runs here and there that made them be like, okay, they'll run the ball.

So we got to make sure that, you know, we're not sitting here just taking off up field, leaving wide open running lanes, you know, leaving vertical holes that people can slide through.

Speaker 2

Yep, yep.

Speaker 3

So yeah, the Chiefs, man, they just have a full they have They have a good team.

They've been here before, you know what I'm saying.

They're they're tried and tested.

They've been deep in the playoff runs, they made real runs.

They know what it takes to win, they know how long the season is.

So I just love seeing them, just knowing it's early.

We're still trying to get better.

They're getting better, They're going in the trajectory of this getting players back, people not getting hurt.

You know what I'm saying, people returning, not just people going away.

So I think that their trajectory is going up.

When you're looking at the Ravens, the opposite just people going down, defense not playing too well.

Speaker 2

It's not looking good on that side, But.

Speaker 3

On the Chiefs, just being able to get right, being able to just you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2

Work work while the season's going.

Speaker 1

Speaking of work, we ain't had no defense out there with Green band Dallas man, no forty to forty tie, that's like, that's why the tie.

Like, I mean, I understand I don't want guys playing you know, long and deep.

Yeah, all that extra and especially you know when it's a regular season game.

Speaker 2

You know you don't have the same rules in the playoffs.

Speaker 1

But a tie is like going out there and you just did all that for nothing, Like I want to give me a loss or win, Like we got to figure out a way, don't college like short in the field and had you had like the twenty or.

Speaker 2

Yeah at the twenty, let's do let's do.

Speaker 1

That for you know, whatever that timeframe is, or until somebody don't score a touchdown like.

Speaker 2

Or a field goal.

Speaker 3

You know when you walk in the stadium, you planning to walk out with it.

Speaker 2

Did I win or did I lose?

You know what I'm saying.

You know what's so crazy?

Speaker 1

Though twenty I feel like I feel like Dallas thought they won because it was a tie.

I swear, dude, Like that's what I felt like, Man, I knew I knew Dallas, you know, they wouldn't gonna play no defense.

I didn't know Green Bay wasn't gonna show up.

They supposed to be a top ten defense.

I believe they number eight.

They only giving up about two hundred and eighty yards two hundred eighty five yards a game, seventy five rushing, another two h five passing.

And you let Dallas go out here for one hundred and seventeen rushing, almost three hundred and twenty passing.

You gave up almost five hundred yards of total offense, and that bust your head.

Thirty one of forty three tugs only got sacked once, three hundred nineteen yards.

He did the whole total of which y'all give up in passing by itself.

Speaker 2

Oh yeah, that.

Speaker 3

Had a feel, that that god a feel that he went crazy, and my man shout out, George picking question.

Speaker 1

We already knew what that was.

Speaker 2

Though.

Speaker 3

He woke up and he had to slide into the number one since CD went so, you know, he was gonna get them options.

He was gonna get a lot more opportunities, and that dude is a number one.

He showed that he could do it sometimes, you know, just a little bit of he had a little dropsy sometimes, but that game right there, he's spass and he showed how how he can ball.

I was a little so I was definitely surprised with the Packers.

Speaker 1

Them dudes, they've been getting after people.

They've been getting after people.

I'll give him that.

But since that rookie ran his mouth talking about an undefeated season, they ain't defeated nobody.

Okay, now you let Dallas do this while they missing toward they starting lineman and the receiver.

Speaker 2

No CD and put up a forty piece on you.

Speaker 3

Is actually crazy and they and I know they was geek two Michael Parsons didn't getting those.

Speaker 1

Got one sack over time, one sacking over time, but too little, too late, Like I mean, if you didn't get.

Speaker 2

It, I think that would have scored.

Speaker 1

Though he had scored that touchdown though, but oh he needed I don't yeah, I don't know what What's what's going on over there in Green Bay with the defensive side of the ball.

I understand Dallas, that's just what they go.

Do you know they're they're dead last I think in defense.

Now it's understand it's understandable.

I think they I think they might average giving up over four hundred and twenty yards a game something like that.

So yeah, I just didn't see.

I I just didn't see.

I just didn't see this happening with the defense.

It's not just not showing up at all I expected.

Speaker 3

I mean I expected the Cowboys defense to probably give up a lot of pests.

Speaker 2

I was not expecting the package defense to give up this point.

Speaker 1

Hey, I thought it was gonna be a thing where they just couldn't keep up with the with the Packers, you know, scoring you know what I'm saying.

Because Nope, that that was the case.

Speaker 2

That that went out there and hooped.

Speaker 3

He only only likes, like you said, eight incomplete passes, man, that was that was amazing and George was getting off.

Speaker 1

Yeah, it's out of control though, Dallas giving up over four hundred and twenty yards a game.

Speaker 3

Bro, Yeah, that's not that's not gonna win games.

And I think in this in the second it's big plays, it's huge plays.

Speaker 1

I think green Bay gave up more yards than Dallas this game.

Speaker 2

Bro.

I think green Bay gave up like four.

Speaker 1

Four eighty nine something like that, like, and I think Dallas gave up like maybe four third something.

I mean, they gave up a little above their average, but you know they was on Q.

Speaker 2

We knew what they was go do.

Speaker 3

I just think that when I when I look at yeah they had they still give a bunch of yards.

But when I look at Dallas's defense, I just need to I just don't see.

I don't see effort, which is what what what makes me feel like, you know what I'm saying, I think maybe with the with the with the Packers, is the effort maybe be there.

You know what I'm saying, They just got to do that the judges was a bad game.

I just see when I look at Dallas, I just don't see like they're flying to the ball like they want to, like they want to hit somebody, if you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1

Oh yeah, yeah, for sure, I guess I was wrong, buddy.

They gave up four Dallas gave up the forty nine.

Green Bay gave up the four thirty six correction sit yeah that correct?

Shit, Yeah that's about that's by a hundred.

Yeah, they gave up way more than the average, but two dude, green Bay gave up almost one hundred and fifty hundred seventy yards more like that's that's how the contrite to Dallas of all people like, come on, man.

Speaker 2

Without the number.

Speaker 1

Almost half, you'll starting on line and CD.

Speaker 2

Yeah, we're gonna see what's going on with them.

Speaker 3

They gotta do better.

But you know we're gonna talk about too.

What you got the Giants?

Okay, how you feel about the Giants beating the Charger, Well, the Giants beat the Chargers and Malik Neighbors towards ACL Yeah.

Speaker 1

That was that was bad.

That Yeah, the Giants, what do you listen?

I think it was another one of them situations where you know, the other team coming in there.

I believe they was playing at home, you know, and then you're thinking you go get something that you don't get.

The rookies first game starting, they thinking it's gonna be a Kate walk and they ain't realized that this boy came out Mahomes.

Speaker 3

He's standing upright with Andy Reid.

You know what I'm saying.

They got Chris Jones on defense.

My man twenty two on the corner is bawling.

They have a good defense, you know what I'm saying.

They may not be the one of the best in the league, but they're very, very opportunistic, you know what I'm saying, and not just people running Scott Free, so them playing, them playing.

When you have Patrick Mahomes and we want him to be throwing for four hundred yards five touchdowns, what he normally does, this is just execution.

This is just great quarterback play.

Being able to get everybody involved thor Hill, being able to throw it to your running backs, being able to get it to Travis Kelce be a, being able to use your run game even if it's not effective.

Being able to still make sure you can lean on it, hand the ball off, so sometimes there is one on one coverages back there.

So I think that the Chiefs they've been in they've been playing football for so long.

Patrick Mahomes is such a great quarterback that he's not worried about it.

They're trying to get their team together.

He's going to get everybody involved.

They didn't have a lot of their rice still isn't there.

They lost worthy first game of the season, so they still just trying to puck and play and figure it out.

But they know it's a long season and as long as Travis I mean long as Patrick Mahomes is healthy, they're always going to have a chance.

So them just being able to show like him still being able to get it too.

All these receivers guys getting back into the group.

Speaker 1

Juju.

Speaker 3

You know what I'm saying, being like just having a good quarterback like that and having comparable receivers that.

Speaker 1

I may say that receivers that catch the ball, I don't.

I don't care how you know how great they are at doing everything else.

As long as they could catch the ball, he's going to get it to him.

They secure that ball, he's going to get it to him like it's it's it's almost like a you know, like like a Tom Brady.

You know what I'm saying, Where you get the receiver, long as he can catch, you're going to be able to move a rock.

It don't matter.

Speaker 2

And the one thing I.

Speaker 3

I said, and the thing too with them was they were still they were trying to get the run game going a little bit for him.

They were handed it to a checkout, giving it to hunt.

You know what I'm saying, Like they may not be getting the most yards, but just still how to.

Speaker 1

Keep them honest.

You can't them sitting there years back.

You know, you know, they got a few runs here and there that made them be like, Okay, they'll run the ball.

So we got to make sure that, you know, we're not sitting here just taking off up field leaving wide open running lanes, you know, leaving vertical holes that people can slide through.

Speaker 2

Yep, yep.

Speaker 3

So yeah, the Chiefs, man, they just have a full They have a they have a good team.

They've been here before, you know what I'm saying.

They're they're tried and tested.

They've been deep in the playoff runs, they made real runs.

They know what it takes to win, they know how long the season is.

So I just love seeing them, just knowing it's early.

We're still trying to get better.

They're getting better, They're going in the trajectory of this getting players back, people not getting hurt, you know what I'm saying, people returning, not just people going away.

Speaker 2

So I think that their trajectory is going up.

Speaker 3

When you're looking at the Ravens, the opposite, just people going down, defense not playing too well.

Speaker 2

It's not looking good on that side, But.

Speaker 3

On the Chiefs, just being able to get right, being able to just, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2

Work work while seasons.

Speaker 1

Speaking of work, we ain't had no defense out there with Green Band Dallas.

Man, no forty to forty tie, that's like, that's why the tie.

Like, I mean, I understand I don't want guys playing you know, long and deep, Yeah, all that extra and especially you know when it's a regular season game.

Speaker 2

You know you don't have the same rules in the playoffs.

Speaker 1

But a tie is like going out there and you just did all that.

Speaker 2

For nothing, Like I want to give me a loss or win.

Speaker 1

Like we got to figure out a way, don't college like short in the field and had you had like the twenty or.

Speaker 2

Yeah at the twenty, let's do let's do.

Speaker 1

That for you know, whatever that timeframe is, or until somebody don't score a touchdown like or a field goal.

Speaker 2

You know, when.

Speaker 3

You walk into stage, you're planning to walk out with the did I win or did I lose?

Speaker 2

You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1

You know what's so crazy?

Though?

Twenty I feel like I feel like Dallas thought they won because it was a tie.

I swear, dude, Like that's what I felt like.

Man, I knew I knew Dallas, you know they wouldn't gonna play no defense.

I didn't know Green Bay wasn't gonna show up.

They supposed to be a top ten defense.

I believe they number eight.

They only giving up about two hundred and eighty yards two hundred eighty five yards a game, seventy five rushing, another two h five passing, And you let Dallas go out here for one hundred and seventeen rushing almost three hundred and twenty passing.

You gave up almost five hundred yards of total offense.

And that bust your head.

Thirty one of forty three tugs only got sacked once, three hundred and nineteen yards.

He did the whole total of which y'all give up in passing by itself.

Speaker 3

Oh yeah, that had a feel that that god a feel that he went crazy.

And my man shout out, George picking question, Well, already do what that was though?

He woke up and he had to slide into the number one since CD went so you know, he was gonna get them options.

He was gonna get a lot more opportunities, and that dude is a number one.

He showed that he could do it sometimes, you know, just a little bit of he had a little dropsy sometimes, but that game right there, he's spass and he showed how how he can ball.

I was a little so I was definitely surprised with the Packers.

Them dudes, they've been getting after people.

They've been getting after people.

Speaker 1

I'll give him that, But since that rookie ran his mouth talking about an undefeated season, they ain't defeated nobody.

Okay, now you let Dallas do this while they missing toward they starting lineman and the receiver.

Speaker 2

No CD and put up a forty piece on you.

Speaker 3

Is actually crazy and they and I know they was geeked to Michael Parsons didn't getting.

Speaker 1

Ood go one sack over time, one sacking over time, but too little, too late, Like I mean, if you didn't get it, I think that would have scored.

Though he had scored that touchdown though, but oh he needed I don't Yeah, I don't know what What's what's going on over there in Green Bay with the defensive side of the ball.

I understand Dallas, that's just what they go.

Do you know they're they're dead last I think in defense.

Now it's understand it's understandable.

I think they I think they might average giving up over four hundred and twenty yards a game something like that.

So yeah, I just didn't see.

I I just didn't see.

I just didn't eat this happening with the defense not just not showing up at all I expected.

Speaker 3

I mean I expected the Cowboys defense to probably give up a lot of pests.

Speaker 2

I was not expecting the Packers defense to give up this point.

Speaker 1

Hey, I thought it was gonna be a thing where they just couldn't keep up with the with the Packers, you know, scoring you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3

Because Nope, that that was the case, that that went out there and hooped.

He only only likes, like you said, eight incomplete passes.

Man, that was that was amazing and George was getting off.

Speaker 1

Yeah, it's out of control though.

Dallas giving up over four hundred and twenty yards a game.

Speaker 3

Bro, Yeah, that's not That's not gonna win games.

And I think in the in the second it's big plays, it's huge plays.

Speaker 2

I think green Bay gave up more yards than Dallas this game.

Bro.

I think green Bay gave up like four.

Speaker 1

Four eighty nine something like that, like and I think Dallas gave up like maybe four thirty something.

I mean, they gave up a little above their average.

But you know they was on Q we knew what they was go do.

Speaker 3

I just think that when I when I look at yeah they had they still give a.

Speaker 2

Bunch of yards.

But when I look at Dallas's defense, I just need to I just don't see.

Speaker 3

I don't see effort, which is what what what makes me feel like, you know what I'm saying, I think maybe with the with the with the Packers, is the effort maybe be there, you know what I'm saying, They just got to do that.

Speaker 2

The judges was a bad game.

Speaker 3

I just see when I look at Dallas, I just don't see like they're flying to the ball like they want to, like they want to hit somebody, if.

Speaker 2

You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1

Oh yeah, yeah, for sure, I guess I was wrong, buddy.

They gave up four Dallas gave up the forty nine.

Green Bay gave up the four thirty six correction sit yeah that correct shit, Yeah that's about that's by a hundred.

Yeah, they gave up way more than the average, but two, dude, green Bay gave up almost one hundred and fifty hundred seventy yards more like that's that's how the to Dallas of all people, like.

Speaker 2

Come on, man, without the number.

Speaker 1

Almost half you're starting online and CD.

Speaker 2

Yeah, we're gonna see what's going on with them.

They gotta do better.

But you know we're gonna talk about too.

What you got the Giants?

Okay, how you.

Speaker 3

Feel about the Giants beating the Charger?

Well, the Giants beat the Chargers and Elik neighbors towards a c L.

Speaker 2

Yeah, that was that was bad?

Speaker 1

That?

Yeah, the Giants, what do you listen?

I think it was another one of them situations where you know, the other team coming in there.

I believe they was playing at home, you know, and then you're thinking you go get something that you don't get.

The rookies first game starting, they think it's gonna be a kate walk and they ain't realized that this boy came out go ahead and give everybody the juke jerg and all the other stuff.

And they're not they're not set.

Speaker 2

Up like that.

But I think he'll do decent.

Speaker 1

I think you got to give him, you know, a year or two, maybe maybe three to actually be able to, you know, get used to it, spread his wings and keep going.

Speaker 2

But from what what I just saw, I think he's going to be all right.

I don't.

Speaker 1

I don't and I'm not saying he's about to go out here and you know, turn the league up, but I think I think he'll be all right middle of the pack.

Speaker 2

He was giving me bow Knicks vibes a little bit.

Speaker 3

Man, I'm not gonna lie, And that's not a bad thing because bow Knicks has been doing good for the Broncos and nobody really expected him to be what he is and they're winning games and I'm not mad at him at all.

So from Jackson Darry, he was giving me a little little bit of bow Knicks to what he first did.

Hey, he first came in, nobody really knew what to expect and use his legs being able to not mess it up, don't turn the ball over.

Speaker 2

You know what I'm saying.

Extend some players so it looks good.

It look good.

Speaker 1

Yeah, let's go down south Man Tampa and Philly.

That ain't won twenty five.

That game was not really as close as the score says.

I think.

I think the egos just basically dominated the first half.

Come out and special teams start off what they did last week.

They block a punt and run it in, you know for a touchdown like that.

That started the game off like that's that's yeah, that's not what you're looking for.

Man.

And something else too, was like Philly's like actual first possession, dude, it was like six seven pass plays.

I think it was only one run and they scored the touchdown.

It's fourteen nothing like Tampa Bay.

You know, if they didn't get the fifteen yard personal file the next thing, you know that that's what allowed them to score the field goal that they got like that next possession.

So I think it's you know, back and forth.

They start start doing a little punt here.

But again the punt dude does is short.

He basically shanks the punt and he gives them a short feel.

They come out pass heavy again, letting y'all know, like Yo, Hurst can do this.

He that dude, you know, twenty one to three immediately, you know what I'm saying.

The Eagles verdic That's that's what I'm saying.

Where you don't have to get that many.

It doesn't matter how you're scoring, it doesn't matter.

Speaker 3

It might not look too good, the stats might not be as big, but you're a twenty one three and you ain't really did nothing, you know what I'm saying, Like that's not jayalen Hurst's bad.

Speaker 2

That's not nobody's bad.

That's just a good team.

Twenty one three.

Speaker 1

It don't matter what they ended up doing twenty four to three.

Philly ended up coming back out like fourteen play drive, ended up settling for a field goal.

But again, like that's like they're basically in control from the jump.

It wasn't really anything that that that Tampa had did in the first half except for kicking sixty five yard field goal to make it like six to twenty four.

And hell, the first half, dude, hurts was I think he only missed one pass only they only had one incompletion.

Tampa only had one hundred yards off No, ninety nine yards offense.

Bro, they had ninety nine yards offense.

Like, the first half was just I think it was.

It just came down to being too much for them to to overcome the djits Tampa's I'm not Tampa, but Phillis defense.

Dude, they contested everything.

They was tackling everything, shoring up tackles, dude, catch the ball, boom, you know.

They they tackled them as soon as they get it.

That whole the whole Like it was I'm like, wow, the ain't gonna be they ain't getting know yet, ain't gonna getting nothing of that.

Speaker 3

Yep, No, that's the Eagles.

That's the Eagles defense.

They play with passion, They swarm to the ball.

They was able to get after it.

So like that's they're They're great, They're good.

They're a good team.

And like when like when he threw for two touchdowns fifteen to twenty four, my man Jalen hurts two touchdown, zero picks.

Speaker 2

It's not going to wow you.

Speaker 3

It's not gonna wow anybody, but you know it's gonna wow us when they win the game and they able to walk out of the stadium again like continuing to win.

So it may not be that pressing.

And I think that's why at the end of the day, to win eight, how do you so let's get the Eagles win all that.

Aj Brown at the end of the day with his tweets, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1

I don't understand that.

I don't know what it means.

What is it in.

Speaker 2

Reference to it's.

Speaker 3

I feel like what to say if you're not welcome, not listen to quietly withdrawal, don't make a scene, shrug your shoulders and be on your way.

He's trying to basically say, like for me reading it, and he's trying to say he's feeling not welcome, not listen to he wants the ball, but nobody's listening to him.

He's just shrugging his shoulders and he's going about his way.

But I'm like, that's just it's it's a receiver that wants to get the ball and wants to It's a receiver that wants the ball, period.

Speaker 1

Well, I mean, you're not really doing that.

If that's why you're tweeting it out, you're actually telling everybody, You're not just shrugging your shoulders and walking away.

Speaker 2

I know, I know you're making a scene by tweeting it out.

Speaker 3

If you weren't just say anything, and you could just do this like after the at the end of the year, anything you tweet it's going to that's basically you saying you everything.

Speaker 1

Everything you said contradicted what you were saying like or what you was thinking.

I don't know, it's a contradiction.

Speaker 3

It's a thing, devo, you know what I mean?

You, yeah, that's exactly what it is.

So when we were like you just when you playing and you feel you want to get I don't know.

This isn't the right way to do it.

But it's just like the players when you do tweet something about this.

Speaker 1

You know exactly what you're doing.

Yeah, everybody's going to talk about it, and then you go tweet at Twitter.

That's not I don't that's not you sitting back and.

Speaker 2

Just doing nothing.

Man, speaking of frustrations, man.

Speaker 1

Cam Ward, he said, hey, he kept it a being didn't all.

Speaker 2

The way of being dude.

He was.

Speaker 1

He was a little he was a little frustrated man.

You think he was.

He was too honest, like you think.

Let's take a listen to it so you can hear exactly what he said.

Man, I mean, we're keeping a book right now.

We asked so we own forward.

We have this point.

Speaker 6

We got none to lose.

We dropped a court of our games and we've yet to do anything.

So we have to lock in, especially myself, from the offensive line, from the defensive line, from the special teams to all three faces.

Speaker 1

We have to play together.

Speaker 6

We have not played together this year yet, and that's just something that you know, we want to preach about it every day every day.

We gotta do better and we're doing that, but it has to show up on Sundays.

It hasn't showed up yet, but it got to show up next week.

Speaker 3

Where do you think Joe, hey, bro this all of us say he kept that ship one thousand.

If you want to ask him how he feels on that in a particular moment, I really feels like he felt that way.

Were playing like ass and I'm the quarterback of the team.

I'm like ass so offensive line, defensive line.

We preach this like we gotta play to a certain standard and we.

Speaker 2

Want to be good.

Speaker 3

But like the end of the day, I'm not mad at him for saying this, but nouches, you get it off.

Speaker 1

He said it.

Lie right there.

No, he's sitting by in front.

I'm gonna say right there, I'm gonna let you get it.

This is what it is.

This is how I feel.

Speaker 2

Throw out the cryptics and all that.

Speaker 1

This is what it is.

We're playing like playing, I'm playing like track.

Everybody need to get this together.

We asked and something gotta be done.

We need to get it done.

I have absolutely we lost a quarter of our dad, a quarter of our ready ready have zero problems with that.

Look here, man, we want to Thank y'all for joining us.

We got to get out of here.

We're out of time.

We done ran a little over them now, thank you for joining us.

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Speaker 2

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Speaker 1

Let's get it back tomorrow.

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