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Nightcap Hour 2: Joe Burrow’s NOT HAPPY in Cincy + Shedeur Sanders NFL’s Rookie of the Week + Cam Newton SALTY at Colts
Episode Transcript
Oh Joe.
Speaker 2The Arizona Cardinals and Kyle Murley College excuse me.
Kyler Murray appeared to be hated for a divorce this offseason, and more details have emerged about how their relationship deteriorated.
According to ESPN John Winfust, Kyler wanted a voice heard in the personnel decision and the draft choices, but for the most part, the Cardinals dismissed his request to add certain players.
Win Fust noted that one time, the Arizona acques the college personnel requests and the team acquired Hollywood Brown in a draft day trade in twenty twenty two, given Murley one of his best friends in former college teammates.
Murray has been sidelined with a foot injury since Week six, and the Cardinals head coach Jonathan Gannon recently announced he will not return this season while he continues his recovery.
Speaker 1This may end the.
Speaker 2Tenure in Arizona, as ESBN Adam Schefter reported last month that his sow said that his separation is imminent.
Speaker 3Yeah, imminent, I mean, but you could see that.
Speaker 2I mean when you're Murry, a franchise that drafted him number one overall in twenty ninety team, there is no other.
And somebody say he's in danger, imminent danger.
There's no greater word than eminent.
Speaker 3Yes, yeah, I mean the writing is on the wall, especially, but the way they treat them, I mean, whatever foot injury you do have, it can't be that guy damn bad.
It can't be that bad.
And obviously, if even as well as Jakobe Brissett as playing, if he's your quarterback of your future, you're going to be able to do everything you can to get him back on the field.
But the fact that you're going to say, you know what I believe.
I'm gonna tell you what I believe.
I think.
I think he's a healthy scratch.
I think he's a healthy scratch.
And they don't want they don't want to ruin any trade value for him.
Speaker 2No, they don't want him to get hurt and be stuck with him and playing that that that that's what they remember now with Russell Russell Russell Wilson.
Yes, I can't get you, bro that they ain't guarantee you you know, yeah.
Speaker 3Exactly, I understand the game that they that they are playing.
But I mean, listen, there are some places Kyler Murray will be able to go and he will be able to flourish as long as the system is conducive for what he does well and they have the right supporting system around him.
Speaker 2He look after they played the Cowboys, and I said, I've watched I've watched.
Speaker 1The Cardinals games.
Speaker 2And I ask you when I came over here and we said, I said, oh yo, at any important time this season, did the Cardinals look with Kyler Murray like they did tonight with Jakobe Kobe.
I said, it's over, I said, I said, I said, there's a great chance Kyler might be Hey, now you're good, take another week.
Speaker 3And I damn listen when it comes to Kyler Murray playing quarterback for the Cardinals and when it comes to Jakobe Brissette playing quarterback for the Cardinals in the chat, I know y'all not blind and you can see it too, especially even though the game of football, the two offenses with those two quarterbacks are called and run completely different.
Speaker 2Where you have to you have to put Kyler Morsel on the move oo because he's so small man.
Speaker 3Yeah, they're they're run completely different.
Now what with Jakobe Brissett lax and mobility and escapability, you know, and being a dual threat like Kyler Murray, he makes up for with his arm.
Yes, and which is why his numbers look the way they do even in losses.
Yeah, numbers.
Numbers are phenomenal.
Speaker 1I've been playing phenomenal.
He has, absolutely has.
Speaker 3But they're still losing.
Yes, at the end of the day.
Speaker 1I take what it's easier with.
Speaker 2You lose with a guy that's making three million and a guy that's making forty five million.
Speaker 3I guarantee you that.
Come on, come on now, he come on, listen.
Speaker 1Sense.
Speaker 2Yeah, So there's like, you know what, if if we're going to be whatever the Cardinals are, let's just say for the sake of argument, they're foreign.
Speaker 1Nine.
Speaker 2Okay, four and nine with a three million dollar quarterback, or you want to be four and nine with a forty five million dollars quarterback.
Speaker 1Take your pick.
I don't want to be four and nine.
But if I got my brothers, you know what.
Speaker 3And we rather we'll take the hit this year, yes, or the forty forty forty five million dollar quarterback, but going forward, we want that off our books because we know what we get.
Jacob Jakobe Brissett, who's much cheaper.
We're gonna make a business decision now.
With that business decision, if you if you were saying to yourself, we understand what Kyler Murray gives for us long term, then we're gonna stick with it.
But obviously what he's done so far from twenty nineteen to date isn't enough of them to keep him around with the kind of money.
Speaker 2He's Ojoe when the way he was talking, he was talking, Look, I'm not saying, well, am saying it is wrong, But he said, I gotta have a live outside of football.
Bro, you the quarterback of an NFL team, you're a franchise.
Speaker 3Quarterback, quarterback?
Yeah, you can't say that.
Speaker 2And you and you think playing video how I'm just trying to figure.
I mean, yeah, you might be up there, and you might I don't know what you would know better about streaming and maybe number one number or one of the top one thousand players on card or whatever else they play mm hm.
But if it's not gonna help you be better at your profession, your chosen profession, I ain't affing with it.
Yeah, and you're a quarterback and you think and people and see and people agree with it.
Yeah, that that that what that man do in his off time.
I said, okay, yeah.
Speaker 3And you know the funny thing too about it when I think about it for us athletes that that are gamers that enjoy gaming as a sense of pieces, as a sense of something to to to unplug ourselves away from our respective craft and job to relac it is gaming.
Speaker 1You need to be good at you You had have been good at your said job to get away from it.
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah, I know, because if you died, yo, Yeah, yeah, that's gonna be that's gonna be the problem.
And when they start putting clauses, it's the only a matter of time, when they start putting clauses.
Okay, Oh Joe, you gotta be Oh Joe got to be here on they got to be here at this time.
Oh gotta do this, Oh Joe gotta do that.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 3Yeah, you're right.
Speaker 1You're right when they.
Speaker 2Start putting, when they start putting all that stuff in your Oh Joe, and I'm I'm thinking about it.
I was like, I don't I can't recall m h, I don't remember every and it got out?
Bro, how does that make him?
Speaker 1Look?
Speaker 3Yeah, you're right for them to put that in.
Speaker 2Your because here's the thing that guys didn't realize.
They called on that when you take the my pants home, they can tell how much steady time you actually do.
Speaker 3They track everything.
Speaker 1They didn't know that at first.
They didn't know it at first.
Speaker 2And there was a lot of that.
Ye see when you take them, when you take oh Joe, you take film home.
I see, God got stuff.
All got got so many tapes over their back going down, and they got them in the the laundry bag.
You messed launder bag that they got bullet tapes and up left and right.
Ain't watching one of them.
Not As a matter of fact, they probably taped over them.
Speaker 3You know.
It's funny too when it comes to that.
I have such a healthy balance of gaming and and playing the game and being a student of the game as well.
Is is I'm a better gamer than I am a football player.
I'm a better I'm a better I'm a better gamer at Call of duty at.
Speaker 2Because you want you're one of the top five receivers in the world.
You're not one of the top five Call of duty players in the world.
Speaker 3I'm one of the top five FIFA players in the world right now.
Speaker 1No use, they rank all that stuff.
Speaker 3Yeah, I'm ranked, I'm eighth in the world.
Right now, let me see all right, I gotta termine, I gotta turn just said.
Speaker 1To me when you pull it up looking to your ranking, because they got ranked, will the.
Speaker 3Chat the chats to be able to tell you.
I'm sure that people in the chat that know him watch me stream and understand how great I am.
Speaker 2I'm I'm not saying that you're not great, but I'm saying you're one of the five best receivers in the world of seven and a half billion people, eight billion people, you was one of the five best.
I do not believe you're one of the five best gamers in the world.
And call of duty, a FIFA of whatever.
Speaker 3Else, call of duty.
I'm ranked twenty third in the world.
And if he for I'm ranked, I'm raked seventh in the world.
Speaker 2You might not even be seventh.
And high lived Florida, let alone the world.
Speaker 1He's seven in the world.
And I don't even know where Howlea is, but it is a place in highly a place.
Speaker 3Yeah that's all that's my my Latino community.
Speaker 1Man.
Speaker 3Yeah, that's yeah.
Hey, that's the man that's for a chat man.
Somebody somebody in the chat.
I know it's a few people in the chat out and beat up, beat up on a beat up on our FIFA and a few people in the chat that I've carried and call the dude and you understand how great I am?
And this is is what I When I'm streaming and when I'm on Twitch, I got people in my mic like, are.
Speaker 1You sure you played football?
Speaker 3How the hell you so good?
Speaker 1How to?
Speaker 3How have you had time to develop a unique skill set like this over time to be able to carry me and call of duty like this?
Speaker 1Hey?
Speaker 2How you?
Speaker 3And I've told her, I say, listen, this is what I do.
I've always been a gamer first, and my second occupation the job, and my hobby was playing football like this was this is my job.
This is what means more than me.
You know, gaming pays my bills.
Gaming is a way of life.
Gaming is why ninety eight percent of my relationship didn't work, because I understood gaming.
Come first, gaming uncle, my controller, my PC, my Xbox, and my PlayStation.
It doesn't catch attitudes, It doesn't get a it doesn't it knows what.
I don't have to ask you what you want to eat?
And it doesn't know, and it takes twenty minutes to answer.
Speaker 1Did you put the kind of time into that relationship that you did gaming?
Speaker 3No, because I understood gaming is forever.
Everything else is temporary.
Huh.
I was self aware, uncle.
It's about being self aware.
When you're a gamer, you understand you have to have self awareness.
Speaker 1All right, Oh yeah, you have to tell me.
I understand, you know.
Speaker 2Michael Jordan said that the reason why he puts so much of this game because it's the most faithful thing, most rewarding thing, because guess what, no attitude I put in, I'm gonna get out what I put in.
Yeah, it's gonna be faithful.
But you know, sometimes you know, we have the the you know, we're talking about that later, and reportedly took notice on Joe Joe Burrow comments this week regarding his recent hardships had a door through injuries and off field struggles.
Speaking to reporters on Winnsday, Borough said, do I have fun playing?
Speaker 1Winning is always?
But in general was it fun before?
Speaker 3No?
Speaker 1I wouldn't say it was that way.
I have to do fun thing.
I have to have fun doing it.
If not fun, then what am I doing it for?
Speaker 2Burrows asked if there was a changing point that made football less enjoyable than it wasn't previous, to which he responded reflection, reflection on a lot of things that I've done and been through in my career, I think, and I've been through more than most.
Speaker 1Certainly not easy on the brain or the body.
So just trying to have fun doing it again.
He went on to divorce.
Speaker 2There are just a lot of things going on right now related to both football and personal life.
Adam Schefter addressed the situation today, saying I can tell you this, other teams in the league took notice.
I can tell you that for a fact.
I know that because I was texting with some of them.
Oh cho, yes, sir, One or two things gonna happen if the Bengals don't fix this.
What's going on?
Mm hmm, he gonna retire early or he gonna he gonna pull a car some palmer.
Now you know that number.
You know that number very well?
Nine, don't yo o Joe?
Speaker 1Yeah, I do?
Speaker 2Okay, what did number nine say?
Number nine left all that money the table?
Say you know what, I'd rather go home and not make another nine?
Speaker 1Right, yeah?
Speaker 3Height, But this this is great This is also interesting.
And I think Joe's words or how he's feeling right now in present time, coming off of a loss, having having injuries, taking back and looking back at it injury history, and where we are as a team right now collectively as a group, he's not feeling well.
Therefore it's not fun to him.
Of course, it's not fun, you know, Losing isn't fun.
You know, all his life, Joe Burrow has always wanted all that he's done on and off the field, He's always won.
So it's it's it's it's weighing in on him, and he express those feelings on how he feels right now.
The game is fun.
You have to create the fun.
You have to personally create the fun, you know, and and and with doing that that also that also comes with you know, you being consistent at your job and allowing things that are audio control, allowing things that are audio control.
Don't even worry about that, you just you you have to do your best, you know, and in what in what you do.
And I think maybe it's a it's hard.
It's hard to read, you know, it's hard to read, especially with the player that's so young, you're only in year what year of what?
Six seven?
Speaker 2And it's hard to read.
Tell me the time you've ever heard a quarterback like that, a franchise quarterback talk like that, Oh fear feeling bad?
I mean no, no, no, no, no, no, that is what he's said.
Go back and read.
Pull it up what he's said.
Tell me the time that you saw her in a quarterback speak.
How he sounded desponded.
He sounded dejected.
Speaker 3Yeah, yeah, And just say he's dealing with stuff on the field.
I mean not only on the field, but off the field as well.
So I think it's a combination of both.
Speaker 2Guess what, it's a lot easier dealing with stuff off the field when you're win it.
So guess what when things are going bad at home and at work, because guess what, this is my happy place.
Speaker 1What everybody play.
Speaker 2I enjoy I get played the Kings Ransom to play a kids game.
When kids play, they happy see at the playground.
Speaker 3Hey, hold on, the Bangles gave your Kings rams and to be able to play on that playground too.
They gave you jamar, they gave you t you know, they gave you an offensive line.
I mean could come on.
Now, they've they've done everything they're supposed to do on their in two.
Speaker 1Hey, yeah, he's going forty four.
Speaker 2Now see when he was gonna die all of a sudden, you donna play up the script that chat y'all remember last year when Joe burt Joe can't do no more.
Speaker 1He can't do more.
Speaker 2He's scored thirty eight, they score forty one.
He's scored forty one, they score forty five.
He'sc forty five, they score forty eight.
Speaker 3Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, No, I'm just I'm just saying.
I'm just saying, now, come come on, now, come on now, I mean shit, I mean.
Speaker 2Has been broken.
I don't know the better his personal life.
We know from records we could read his house was broken into.
That robs you of piece, That robs you of security.
Would I be surprised if he hadn't if he isn't going to move, if he hasn't moved already, Yeah, probably being injured at some point, I mean, think about it.
He missed the h he missed part of his rookie season.
ACL he missed part of another season.
Fraction of hand, he missed part of it, you know DK last season, Oh Joe, he started the season, dealing with that cap injury this week.
This year he missed nine ten games.
It like damn, and we're not winning.
We're not winning.
Speaker 1We're not well, y'all know, ain't no we I am a part of this, y'all.
We win, We wined us.
Speaker 3We will listen, We're gonna, We're gonna, We're gonna, We're gonna be all right.
We just we just we We have to be a little bit more cautious and and what we share.
So we gotta be a little more caut because people gonna run with it.
I'm sure someone will.
Man, well, he he run the show, so I'm not sure if anyone will have a conversation with him, but cooler heads will probably have a conversation with him and say what you gotta be careful of what you say.
He said, got you got you gotta choose your words wise.
Speaker 1I ain't gotta be nothing.
What y'all gonna do?
Speaker 3Well?
Where he going?
Speaker 1He ain't going, because I got he ain't he going?
Speaker 3Where you going?
I know you an't thinking Joe leaving.
Joe ain't going nowhere, but Joe got about another ten years ago.
Speaker 1Not in Cincinnati.
Speaker 3You want you won't bet nothing I do.
Speaker 1I will he finish.
He ain't finished his career there.
Put some put some finished career there.
Speaker 3He not put some on the table.
Speaker 1He ain't gonna put.
He ain't gonna finish his career.
Speaker 3Because long as one in five is there, he ain't going nowhere watching put some Guess how long how long one in five been there?
And they're still not winning at the level that Joe think they should.
And where else he's gonna go and win?
And where there's a position where hold on, where there's a position for a quarterback, for a quarterback position where they're gonna win.
There, we're going that's what about that?
Speaker 2It's the same thing because guess what, because he can go somewhere and he'll have more input there than what he has there, and.
Speaker 3You still ain't gonna win, no where.
Speaker 1Don't try to talk to this man off this lege.
Speaker 3Now.
I'm not I'm not, I'm just I'm just saying.
I'm just saying, you gotta be careful.
Be careful what you asked for.
Now, be careful what you asked for, Be careful what you in.
Speaker 2No way he can go somewhere worse than sinsy, not organizational wise, where can he go this worse than Sinsey?
Speaker 3We listen, you control all the things you can control.
Offensively is all he needs to worry about that.
Speaker 2Guess what they don't take off.
They don't take units to the super Bowl.
They take teams.
And this team that is currently constructed isn't good enough.
Speaker 3Well show me another team where they need a quarterback that will look anything like they do over here offensively in Cincinnati, where you can go right now, I'm listening.
Let me let me hear this, let me see give me just a second.
Yeah, let me let me grab Let me grab me a red bull while you.
Speaker 1Think Raiders could use it.
Cardinals, Cardinals, Cardinals.
So you're leaving.
Speaker 3You're leaving Jamal?
Are you leaving Jamal and t to go play quarterback for the Cardinals?
Speaker 1Oh?
They got Marvin Hamson Junior.
I like Wilson.
They got McBrien leaving.
Speaker 3You leaving the Bengals.
Speaker 1You're leaving Jama Vikings.
Shut your mouth?
Oh do look at the chat chat?
What happened?
Oh your froze?
Did the internet go out?
Did the internet go out?
Speaker 2Chat?
Speaker 3Okay, that that was a good one.
That that was a good one.
Speaker 1On your internet went out.
That was a good one.
Speaker 3That was a good one.
Speaker 1That was a good one.
Speaker 2Pittsburgh in the in the they were they never let them go then, I'm just saying I just threw that out of it.
They never let them go there.
Hell nah, they never let them go there.
Let's see NFC, n f C, n C West, No, NFC South Atlanta look good, look good, Atlanta look real good.
Speaker 3Who mm hmmm.
Speaker 1I would say, you know what, They're not gonna get rid of CJ.
Speaker 2But what if he was with the Texans?
Yah Will Lanison Jr.
Stingly a Danail Hunter Aliger.
Speaker 3Laughing mm hm.
Speaker 1Petree, yeah, Edwards Junior Frankins.
Do I need to keep going?
I think I've done enough you.
Speaker 2Samily was named NFL Rookie of the Week after breakout performance against the Titans last Saturday, Last sudden excuse me.
Despite being a fifth round pick and despite not started a game until November sixteenth, Sudor became the first rookie quarterback this season to receive the honor.
Speaker 1Oh Joe, Yeah, put in the work, could put it with the Coats.
Speaker 2Can you imagine him with buck Ward sauce.
Speaker 1Is Pittman Jr.
Speaker 3What were you talking about Warren?
You're talking about you talking about Joe Hey with.
Speaker 1That defense with Buck Frank Sauce.
Speaker 3War Listen, man, listen man, I know, I know, I know.
Listen, I know you.
I know you enjoying this.
You know, he's rough with a lot of feathers.
He's he's he has us us pundits and and and media outlets talking you know about how you're feeling, and and and we're creating these narratives and hypotheticals of him actually leaving.
He ain't going nowhere.
No.
Speaker 1The only way you will see Joe.
Speaker 3Burrow on another goddamn team is if you're playing Madden.
Speaker 1That's it.
Speaker 3So if you're playing Madden, there you go.
You can trade him to a team you want to, But in real life it ain't happening.
Speaker 1What do you expect?
What do you expect them from your door against the Bears.
Speaker 3I think it's gonna be a good game.
I think Wait, they planning, they planning it, no matter what they're playing.
But it's cold.
It's cold, regardless of wherever.
Speaker 1They want this side of year, unless you unless you're in like Miami or somewhere.
Speaker 3Yeah, yeah, yeah, Yeah, Yeah, I think it's gonna be another game like we just saw, another game like we just saw.
It's going to be statistically good for him.
He's going to be able to build off of some of the mistakes he made in the last game and try to prove on improve on them this game.
Obviously, you practice the one to be as perfect as possible and minimize mistakes and errors.
So I mean, that's all I want to see.
I want to see you improve, you know, week to week, when you get when you get your opportunities, that's it.
But the most important one is getting that W getting your team at W.
Speaker 1True.
I'm excited.
Speaker 2I'm happy for me, one of the one offensive rookie of the week, first quarterback, first rookie quarterback, to do that, I think you had an extremely bright future in front of him.
Just keep getting better and better.
Control what I can control, which is steadying, getting better, going through my progressions, do a better job.
Just hey, just understand, okay, if I stepped forward in the pocket instead of always trying to bubble those guys been really fast on the edge, man, very very fast on the edge, and you're not gonna be able to outrun very many of them.
So I'm excited and can't wait to watch this game on Sunday.
Speaker 1TJ.
Speaker 2Watt is at a Pittsburgh area hospital for an evaluation of a lung of his lung after experiencing discomfort at the team facility on Wednesday.
Mike Tomlin told reporter later on Thursday that that Watt stayed overnight at the hospital on Wednesday.
I'm a little I'm a little bit cautious about what I say because I'm not a medical expert.
But to make a long story short, he was experiencing some discomfort when he was at the facility yesterday, so we took him to the docks and they're going through a uh, some procedures.
He has a lung situation that's being addressed.
I think he has some testing and forth so forth ahead of him this afternoon.
So that's all I know at this juncture.
I communicated last night he was comfortable, and that's all I really have at this point.
Tomlin can confirmed that Watt's status against Miami is up in the air.
Speaker 1At this point.
Speaker 3I mean that that I'm not I'm not sure what the issue is, you know, but his health.
Speaker 2Did he have something which is real did he get an injection?
And the appears they post what.
Speaker 3I mean, that's not the case.
Speaker 2I mean to experience, like I said, normally, I think TJ's what thirty thirty one, that's not normal man.
Speaker 1Thirty one year olds don't experience and discomfort.
Speaker 2Oh if it's on the field, he fell on the ball, he got you know what I'm saying, he got hit or something.
It might have happened in game.
Speaker 3It might have happened in game and it didn't flare up until Wednesday Sunday.
Yeah, ain't no telling, come on that.
Yeah, I ain't.
Ain't no telling.
He knowing him trying trying to be mister.
I've heard.
Speaker 2I've heard of DOMS and we know what DOMS is delayed onset, muscle soreness.
Speaker 1Yes, but not for days.
Yeah, yeah, okay, I'll take your word for it.
Speaker 3You're right, But hopefully gets healthy because I'm not not we but they need him out there on that field.
They need him o doing that field.
Speaker 2Absolutely, they absolutely need him out there.
Cam Newton, who's eight years younger than Philip Rivers, wants to know why the coach didn't reach out to him when they needed a quarterback.
The thirty six year old said, the forty four year old river sided with the coast is almost like a slap to my face.
He pointed out.
He did not officially retire and it's still working out.
Oh yo, Yeah, why didn't the coach reach out to Cam?
Speaker 3I'm not sure.
I'm not sure, Listen, I would have loved to see for Cam to get opportunity.
Obviously, you hear me say Cap name all the time.
You know, I'm knowing that they probably wouldn't, you know, bring Cap back, But just understanding that he wants to play and he still works out, I'm not sure why they didn't.
They didn't, they didn't bring Cam back.
You think about the situation that they have on the hands already.
I think maybe they see Cam Newton and already having Anthony Richardson, you know, even what Cam is accomplished in the NFL and in college, they them having a quarterback already similar to his playing style right in that in that in that quarterback room already.
That may be a reason behind it.
And obviously the relationship between Shane Stichen and his familiarity with the offense that they're running.
I think that they're a little bit more comfortable bringing in someone that they feel can you know already just plug plug and playing.
Basically, that's the only thing I can think of.
Speaker 1I will say this to Cam.
Speaker 2Because somebody else didn't have to do something, that doesn't mean that you don't have to.
You see, like, Okay, I've been on TV, Ojo, been on CBS obviously, ESPN.
But if I get called back somewhere else and they say, well, Shuanna, we need you to read, I can't say, well, I've been on TV.
Man, I've been on TV twenty five years.
He didn't have to read.
You can't look at it like that.
Just because somebody else didn't do something, that doesn't mean you have to.
We've got to stop this notion.
Just because somebody else didn't do something, well, I shouldn't have to do it.
Either you want the job or not.
Speaker 3Yeah, you know, you know, you know the only way.
Speaker 1Look, I get it.
Speaker 2Camp Camp is in phenomenal shape.
I see his stories from time to time, he working out, he doing stuff.
I don't know if he's still throwing, but he looks like he's in phenomenal shape.
I see the stuff that he's doing.
But we've got to stop this because somebody else didn't do something and got a job.
Speaker 1Well, I shouldn't have to do that either.
Speaker 3Yeah, don't.
I don't think.
Hey, you know what, I don't think he don't want to play no ball.
Speaker 1He just talking.
He just talking, you think?
Speaker 3So he just talking?
Man?
Man, he got jobs like I do.
Man, he got about thirty ship job.
Man, You leaving all you leaving all that with all you got going on to go play quarterback for four five weeks.
Absolutely not.
And you're probably making exactly what you're gonna be making when you go out there on the on the goddamn field.
You're probably making that right now we're at now.
Speaker 1Well, I think I think the biggest thing for Cam is that Cam wanted to leave on his own terms.
Yeah.
Speaker 2It's a lot easier, oh Joe.
It's a lot easier leaving when you won't to leave.
It's like the club.
If I'm ready to go, I'm cool with it.
I don't care captain putting the bars on the thay.
But if I ain't ready to go, brother, let me get one more.
Speaker 3Yeah, if they turn the lights on, Ay, First of all, I've.
Speaker 2Already gone before they turn the lights on, because I'm ready to I'm ready to go.
I'm leaving on my own now.
If the guy got to pick you up the back of your pants and throw your ass out, clearly you wasn't ready to leave.
So I think I think Cam does have some unfinished business, do I think if they if somebody called Cam next off season and say, Cam, look, we want to give you an opportunity.
Speaker 1I think Cam would take them up on another opportunity.
I do you think so?
Yeah?
I don't.
Speaker 3He's got too too much other stuff going on, too much other stuff, too much other stuff that's long term.
Speaker 1Yeah, that's but.
Speaker 2Oh Joe, when when when you're that compared, And that's the thing, You're gonna get too old to play football.
I know they brought Philip Rivers back for you know, and they try to salvage this season and keep their playoff hopes alive.
But you're gonna get you gonna age out of football.
You get to all the playoff sport.
You don't get too old to talk.
Speaker 3Yeah, and now listen, now that I see Cam, now that his feet are grounded and cemented on the other side of the fence, Now, I mean it's no, it's no need to jump and hop the fence.
Hey we we ain't we ain't kids no more.
Come on, come on over here, stay on over here in it's lane, and let's dominate on this end.
Let's dominate what we do on this end.
Let's be Cam Newton from Auburn over here with that camera in front of you.
Be Cam Newton from Auburn on ESPN B Cam Newton from Carolina, be this huh on fourth and one?
You know, we we Your legacy is already cemented on the green grass.
But that legacy, or let's create that legacy on this end with that camera in front of you, having fun, you know, talking football, talking the game.
Speaker 2But I didn't leave how I wanted to.
Well, you know what I tell you.
I tell you what if somebody would have called you, you was doing what you doing?
So right now I have called you in twenty fourteen.
Speaker 3What was I doing in twenty fourteen?
Speaker 1I would oh no, absolutely no, exactly.
But they had called you back.
Speaker 3You know what I'm saying.
If they had called me in twenty fourteen to come back, yeah, oh no, hell nah, I will I will.
Speaker 1Hey, I would move it.
Speaker 3I would move it and shaking.
I was moving and shaking bruh, Yeah, yeah, because I knew if I knew a veteran minimum was, and I was making three times that with what I was doing in twenty fourteen.
Hell nah, okay, oh no, no, no disrespect, no disrespected opportunity.
But I mean you got to weigh your options most of the time when you're you do come back and you get the opportunity and ain't and you're on the back end, and you, oh, well, I need to know how much of making that's the first thing you're gonna.
Speaker 2Say, Well, you already know you're getting veteran minimum.
They're gonna put some incentives in there if you do this X, Y, and Z.
Speaker 3That ain't enough because you're coming if you're coming in as a veteran, you ain't even get the opportunities to hit them.
Goddamn in sendive anyway, hit true.
You finna play that game with me.
Speaker 2The NFL is reportedly considering expanding the amount of plays that can be reviewed via replay.
In twenty twenty six so show the NFL is exploring adding reviewable plays including crackback blox, low blocks, clipping, blind side blocks, intentional grounding, determined receiver position on the field, illegal formation on kickoffs determined feet on the ground when the ball was touched.
The NFL rule book can currently explains that anything that is not expressly reviewable cannot be reviewed, regarding reviewable and non reviewable plays.
Speaker 1Oh choll you like this?
Yeah?
Speaker 3I mean yeah, no, I wish they would lead a game alone, lead a game alone, just leave it alone.
Speaker 2You remember how they tried to replay pass in the fence and you remember that on you and what a disaster that was.
Speaker 3Yes, leading the game alone.
The game is great as it is, you know, a wrinkle here and a wrinkle there.
Speaker 2Yes, I understand that you're not gonna make it perfect.
Speaker 1You're not gonna get They're not going to get every call, right, You're not.
No, y'all.
Keep it, y'all, keep tinkering and tinkering and tinkering.
Speaker 3Yeah, it's it's too too much, too much.
Speaker 1And I don't know why.
I mean, what what is it?
Speaker 2What is it about the game currently that the NFL and the committee competition committee and rules committee or whatever else.
Speaker 1What is it about the game that you seem so upset about currently?
Speaker 3I know they need to allow the game to continue to be long enough.
Yeah, yeah, don't, don't, don't.
Don't lengthen it any more than it already is.
There's enough commercials, there's enough commercials going around to make sure everybody get their money.
I understand that we have to have those, but don't slow the game down.
Don't slow the game down any more than it already is.
Speaker 1I agree.
Speaker 2Uh, time for five times five final save of the evening, the guys, it's time for.
Speaker 3Q Goddamn, we just started.
Speaker 1Were moving, bro we moving?
Speaker 3Man?
Speaker 1What else?
Speaker 3Uh?
Speaker 2Hel l og the buzz letter team with nineteen penalties win this game.
It happened Cousins had had had a game, had one of those Cousins moments.
Yeah, three seventy six three touchdowns, he didn't turn it over, so yeah, he had a moment.
Speaker 1He had a band.
Kyle Pisenior was sensational.
Speaker 3H oh, Joe, what more can you ask for him?
Speaker 2Quere three three six Gussie wearing by them dirty birds, path of fans.
Speaker 1You're welcome.
Yeah, I'm sure they saying thank you, appreciate you.
Now.
They need to take care of their own business on Sunday.
Yeah.
Speaker 2Blame Pallars Diaz.
I just don't understand why Todd won't start with the soft coverage.
They had a twenty had had twenty eight to go.
Uh, Todd was supposed to be a defensive mind.
That guy, it was horrible.
What do you want to do?
I mean, I think the thing in the situation like there, you don't want I get it o Jo.
Yeah, and once they got the touchdown, you saw it brought pressure early.
But I don't want to give him anything cheap, anything deep.
And because you know, you don't get there.
They got some guys.
Speaker 1Mooney can get down the field extremely fast.
Speaker 3Yeah you can, you can go now.
Speaker 2So look they had they had a lead, and then Baker threw that pick that really gave him a short feeling and really put them in a position.
Speaker 1So now they got they got new life.
They go down the field and get a touchdown, they don't get the two point conversion, and look they still had a chance.
I think, look, this game we to be a moot.
Speaker 2Point if Baker would have hit Ibuoka, because what he did is that he stopped the clock, o Jo, and they didn't have to burn a time out or he didn't let the ball, they didn't go up to the two minute warning.
Then they threw it again and it's under two and I still got a time out.
So hey j dow Acri, Hey, Uh, me and the family will be in Vegas next week.
I'll stop in Miami to handle your business for a nominal feet What steakhouse in Vegas is worth spending fifty nine hundred that any bottle signing next week?
Speaker 3Will I tell you what hold on before you answer that when you make your way down here, make sure you got all your affairs in order, with your family, your trusting, your will before you come on dining this way.
Speaker 2Uh the Wind, Uh what's the steakhouse?
And uh, the Wind has a steakhouse.
Speaker 1I like the wind.
Speaker 2Carver steak I think that's in the uh resorts World.
They got one in Red Rocks.
I can't think of the name of up the top of my head.
Speaker 3Make sure you hit eight Lounge in Resorts World too.
Speaker 2Man, that man said you want a steak house.
Dam he ain't trying to go to no cigar bar.
Speaker 1Oh my bad.
Speaker 2Yeah, but they got a lot of steak houts up here.
Work spending fifty nine hundred.
Tyree's Man seventy five fifty seven.
Hey unking know your big Falcons fan here raheem soft as hell?
Too many damn penalties?
Love the show.
We can finally get got Pitts involved.
Yeah, I mean he was coaching like he like, man, I'm straight.
But it's not a good look when your team have that mini penalties.
Oh Joe, Yeah, it's not a good look.
You can't have nineteen excepted penalties.
Yeah you win, but had your lost with it's still been okay?
Speaker 3No, absolutely not.
Speaker 2So they're gonna have to They're gonna have to fixed that up because the coach, because the owner is looking like, holdo, is that what we coach?
Because if we commit this mini penalties and we're coaching it, okay, but if we're not coaching it, but are we condoning it?
Do we jump in people that you know what when they make the same mistake over and over and over again?
Speaker 1Right?
Speaker 2So what what?
Speaker 3What?
Speaker 1What is it?
Speaker 2Are they not receiving it or are you not giving it to him in a form they can understand it?
Yeah, but I need them.
That's your job.
That's what I pay you big bucks And no wamits for m hm j J.
Carver eighty could have sworn Oh your just had orange tie.
Raptor Riders riding his nugget until I saw the logos.
Oh hey, hey, this is listen.
Speaker 3This is the greatest this is the greatest Optimist Club Peewee football ever.
This is why I'm from Liberty City Optimists.
This is this our it's our jacket.
Speaker 2Yeah, I thought it was a nascart running your neck myself.
Oh g underscore Thantos twenty six.
Where does Bjeon rank a one of the best running backs in the league.
Well, he's up there right now, you know, Gibbs, Jonathan Taylor.
I'm talking about McCaffrey, Bjeon.
Speaker 3Yeah, do we hey, do we leave Derrick Henry and Saquon out because they haven't done right now?
Speaker 1Yeah, they're not.
They're not.
Speaker 3I mean, I'm just I'm just curious.
I'm just curious.
Speaker 1Jamier Gibbs is crazy.
Yeah.
Speaker 2Yeah, Jonathan Taylor was playing out of his mind until the quarterback got hurting everybody.
You know, you couldn't you had to.
You're like, we know what we're gonna start, j T.
Yeah, damn, y'r quarterback.
He can't run anyway.
And now it's about to be some of this, it's about to be even worse because I'm bringing pressure because I know damn with yeah, Ed Chang e Chad, I know Philip Rivers ain't going nowhere.
Speaker 1Hey, he couldn't go nowhere ten years ago.
He damn sure ain't going nowhere.
Speaker 2He couldn't run at twenty four, he couldn't run at thirty four, and he damn sure can't run at forty four.
Speaker 3But it's one thing about him now.
Speaker 1Oh, he'll like jun He can throw it.
Speaker 3He's gonna throw that ball now.
Speaker 2Armhold up on your because I can promise you he ain't been throwing.
He ain't been throwing the football whole bunch.
Speaker 3Hey, listen, he might have a funny throwing motion.
When you sit there and laughing, you want to You're gonna look up here and you're gonna have about three hundred yards on you.
Speaker 2Devin Wad's worth twenty two.
Keep piling note, Yo believed in us.
We no one else did.
Speaker 1Uh.
Speaker 2The Panthers coming, Yeah, they look good and I hope some dab the Dundee seventy four a unkin o cho much love and nightcap family.
What is the most fun had the greatest moment on your memory from your NFL season?
Speaker 1Well, when suit.
Speaker 2I was just talking to me and Burns was talking today.
Ain't nothing like that first super Bowl.
I was fortunate and I thank God and all of them are special, But ain't nothing like that first super Bowl?
Speaker 1Yeah, because that's what I mean.
Speaker 2You play to win.
You won the ultimate game.
That Yeah, I mean, it was nice to go to your first Pro Bowl because like, Okay, I'm one of the whatever they take on it.
I'm one of the fifty best players in the NFL.
Okay, I'm an All Pro.
Now, I'm one of the best you know what, twenty two, twenty two players in the twenty five players.
Speaker 1In the NFL.
Yeah, that's an honor man.
Winning super Bowl?
Wait, a super Bowl the first one?
M what you got?
Speaker 3Hey, Well that's hard because you know, I didn't have very many moments, you know, during my NFL career.
Speaker 1But you had seasons.
I mean, didn't you have a sixteen hundred yard season?
Yeah?
Speaker 3That that that ain't no really, no moment though, that is a moment.
Speaker 1You gotta take the victory where you can get them.
Speaker 3We'll shoot if I could.
If I'm taking the victory when I can get him, it would be it would be drafted okay, drafted.
Hey, that a I think a chat to give you, you know, perspective in context.
I think, if let's say, if all of you you know out there you played a lotto.
You played the lotto, and that feeling of gratification and that weight being lifted off your shoulders is what it's like getting drafted.
Like seeing that name go across that ticker, you're getting that phone call from from Mike Brown.
You know what, We're deciding to take you with the whatever or pick and whatever round it is, and you you the crying starts from not not just the pick, but think about all the work and all the all the struggles and all the obstacles it took just to get to this point.
That's what makes you cry.
That's what makes you cry because everything's every all the work you put in it finally boom, it hits you.
And I think that would be that I think that would be the equivalent of winning a lotto of oh my god, I got the winning ticket and you just become you're.
Speaker 1Overcoming, you know what I missed up?
Speaker 2That the last the greatest I guess to say, the fun you had the greatest moment or memory from your last NFL season.
Speaker 1Oh my last Yeah, you don't really talk about that that much.
Speaker 3I ain't really got no moment.
That's as the reason it was my last ship.
Speaker 2Uh moment, my last NFL season.
You know what, probably up playing the Chargers.
I was AFC Player of the week, three touchdowns, one hundred yards.
I broke the record for the most you know, receiving touchdowns by a tight end for a career.
Speaker 3Oh you're balling black?
Speaker 1Yeah so uh rogue one.
Uh yes see rogue one.
Vote.
Speaker 2Kyle pissed the first tight end with one hundred and fifty plus yards and three touchdowns since Shannon Sharp in nineteen ninety six.
Yep, that was Uh who's that the Chargers?
That was the Charger of the ninety six Uh?
I think I had.
Speaker 1Thirteen for a buck fifty six.
Speaker 3Boy, you were balling black.
Speaker 1I hit him with a slug O.
Speaker 3Wait you oh they hold on, they had you out white.
Speaker 2Better stop it.
That's why I keep telling people like, oh oh this you better stop.
I was I was running slug old.
What I didn't running slow.
I ain't talking about adding no gold line where you know you started.
No, I'm talking about I was like twenty five yards out?
Speaker 1What ran a slug old?
I run comebacks, I run over, I run stop yeah, square out?
Okay, man, I see you what all right?
Speaker 3Yeah?
Speaker 1I used to cook the Chargers.
Speaker 2Slow walk to millions, four five six, shout out to the Ups family, slow walk to millions, Angelo Palmer, hashtag god Bills.
Let's go Buffalo?
Sorry, oh Joe, kn't wait for the podcast Olympics.
I told o, Yoe, what Buffalo was gonna do.
Man, they got Josh.
Speaker 1Did you actually think y'allou was gonna beat Josh?
Speaker 3Do you understand we had them boys on the rope.
Now, I know we're not gonna act like that.
Do we need to rewatch the game again?
Speaker 1No, you don't want to do that.
Speaker 3We had them boys on the rope.
Now, don't don't do that.
Hey, hey, there was an opportunity.
There was an opportunity.
We were finna go down to school.
Speaker 2Now come on, now, I don't know what opera, what opera you was watching?
But that tunity left real quick, Okay, Okay, I have twenty ks nanocho.
I was curious, could you guess on why Mahomes does his audible plays?
He recognized the cover deep zero and uh as a huge Mahome fan.
I feel like he never changed his route.
Some coaches don't allow it.
Eighty four has take eighty four eighty hash take eighty five goals because it's probably built in.
They're anticipating.
If you see covering zero, you see because we had it.
I mean a lot of times we did in audible, we just see it.
Speaker 3Yeah, it's already built in.
And as there's one there's one player that's responsible for the hot route, it's already built in.
You don't you don't have to you don't have to audible that.
Speaker 2Let's go cooking.
Ask Tony that I called it off season and told him.
Asked Tony that I called it in the off season and told him, Tony, I don't know.
Nellie Belly Broncos eleven and two.
Do you think they have a good chance to make the playoffs?
Speaker 1Is that is that good?
Speaker 2Yeah, they got a great chance.
They're gonna make the playoffs.
The question is are they gonna win to the Vision?
Speaker 1M hmm.
Speaker 2I think that's the most important thing they're gonna Are they gonna win the Vision?
Kemper Nor what Junior?
Oh, Joe, I love you, but the binge of the losing to the Ravens on Sunday.
Kemper, You're exactly right.
They are going to lose.
Speaker 3Come again, I mean, are we not?
Are we not remembering every game?
I go in at Paincourt, we win the game.
Speaker 1I'm telling you.
Speaker 3I'm telling you ahead of time.
Listen to me, Listen to me.
I know football, I know football.
I know the Ravens are your team.
Speaker 1Hold on, what did you just say?
You know what football?
Why are you saying that word?
Did you win on Sunday?
Speaker 3Yeah?
The Dolphins did win?
Speaker 1No no, no, no, no no, the Bengals, the Guppies you you no no no no, no, no no no no.
Speaker 3Hold on, did your Ravens win on Sunday?
Speaker 1No, country man?
Speaker 3Yeah, yeah, in.
Speaker 1Order for you your primary team.
Speaker 3Oh so, oh so now you want now?
You want to now?
You want to be uh over now, Okay.
Speaker 2Don't worry about it.
Lamar got something for you on Sunday.
Lamar got something for you on Sunday.
Speaker 3Hey, we gonna see, We're gonna see.
He gonna have to show me.
Speaker 1He's gonna show you.
So you're gonna be there to see it?
Speaker 3Oh yeah, definitely, I'm gonna be there.
Speaker 1I'm gonna be there.
Speaker 3Joe birt Hey, Joe A see after Joe.
See Joe tricking y'all.
Joe got y'all thinking something wrong with him.
He said what he said in that press of the day on purpose.
Speaker 1Okay, he said.
Speaker 3Now watch he gonna drop forty on y'all.
Speaker 1Lamargo dropped forty one on y'all.
Speaker 3You must be talking about it in the bathroom.
Speaker 2That's it your boy, samby o.
Joe, please give on get fifty nine.
He needs to shave.
He looking like Shanna Claws.
Speaker 3Nah, I tell her we're gonna grow beers.
I'm growing mine out too, unh.
Speaker 1Let me see.
Speaker 3You see Yeah, I'm letting it grow.
I'm not I'm not cutting my hair.
Speaker 1Man, forget it.
No, I don't see.
But okay, I'm gonna take your word for it.
Speaker 3Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2Pappy rain ninety four forty five.
Oh Joe Brandon Jenny talking spice and said he beat you in the race.
Speaker 3Yeah, hey, Brandan, hold on may we should buy my dog Brandon Jennis basketball Brandon.
Yeah, man, Brandon can't even beat me in his own respective craft.
Speaker 1Man.
Speaker 3I washed Brandon black?
Speaker 1What are you talking about?
Speaker 2Saying that you and out runn a guy now at fifty seven with two artificial hips.
Speaker 1Yeah, I don't know how much crads you gonna get for that one.
Speaker 3Hey, ain't nobody on their podcast, Gil Brandon, none of them can do nothing with me, man, none of them.
What do they talk about?
Speaker 1Oh?
Yeah, he is old?
What you go?
Speaker 2I would just thinking.
I don't know why I think I would just think it out.
Mccant's Kenyon.
Speaker 3Hey, Hey, I heard McCants too, McCanns, I'll lump you up black, And I heard say about boxing gloves swaggy swaggy Man, Swaggy can't even shoot better than me.
Ain't nobody over there and they play basketball.
I washed everybody over there.
Man, what you talking about?
Hey, mccams, I heard you say somebody them gloves?
Boy, these hands registered too.
But you get lumped up?
Play round, play around if you want to.
Hey, you looking like Martin on that episode?
Speaker 2What Robert Chavez?
Ojo?
I dog you in FIFA at the seasons?
Got video?
Speaker 3Man, stop playing with me, Man, don't playing me.
This is me.
It's Ojo.
Speaker 1No o Jo.
Speaker 2I didn't know you have a baby and our grand baby.
You trifling.
How can you use that fist?
Speaker 1He can use that?
Yoh, he could use that fifteen hundred.
Yeah, I knew that I need it.
Speaker 3I keep that thing on me, unk man, I keep.
Speaker 1That big blue Woo eighty six or seven?
Speaker 2Ojo, Will you give the same deal the Rams gave the lines for Stafford, for Barrow even another third thoughts uh uh No, you gonna have to force their hands like like like Carson did.
They're not just gonna just gonna trade him.
Speaker 3And that man ain't going nowhere.
Speaker 1Man, you hope nothing.
Speaker 2Uh Yo Burrow, yo boy, as Sammy Burrow to the guppies.
No, No, they're not trading, so don't don't don't know.
No now all of a sudden, you guns hold for that huh No for what you're not leaving huh you're not leaving one over on five, I'm telling you.
I mean, That's why I'm not even paying none of this, no mind, it's it sounds.
Speaker 1Good, but.
Speaker 2Uh junior underscore cool cat Yo, my spurs put bt A to your Lakers last night.
Speaker 1No whimby v a hemmy asty genty spurs and five.
Speaker 3That's a good one.
That's a good one.
Speaker 2Yeah, y'all did a double Uh Josh twenty eight oh eight, borrow to our seven home depot lawn department.
Speaker 1Damn O Joe your boy Sam and said, oh Joe, say a joke before you leave.
Oh man, you.
Speaker 3Should have told me, man, Yeah, and you should have told me.
I ain't I ain't got I ain't got nothing to.
Speaker 1Change but one force on Sunday.
Chat.
Speaker 3Yeah, I got your Sunday, I got your Sunday.
Huh we're off Saturday.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Oh that mean I got two days off on yep.
Speaker 3Oh wait, that's why I love y'all.
Man, I love you, man, I love a boy.
Well, I'm gonna come back Sunday with so much energy.
Speaker 1Oh my god.
Speaker 2Yeah, because then you got by.
Uh then after you go Sunday Monday, you off Tuesday.
Then you go bout eight days straight.
Speaker 3Wow, what happened?
Speaker 1Was wrong?
Speaker 2Guz you got Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, college football, the college football players Friday.
Speaker 3I thought, I thought you're trying to say me we had eight days off.
Speaker 1I would say, hell no, no.
Speaker 2Uh, what do you think the greatest sports prime is in sports history?
My boy, says MJ in the early nineties.
I say Michael Phelps in two thousand and eight when he won eight gold medals.
Probably Tiger Tiger was playing fifteen tournaments, winning eight a year.
Speaker 3Yeah, even nice Boy and the Tiger slam, even nice Boy.
Speaker 2That concludes this episode of Nightcap as the Atlanta Falcons kicks a walk off field goal by Zane Gonzalez to beat the Tampa Bay Buccaneers by the score of twenty nine twenty eight.
Cousins had an out of body experience.
He had thirty or forty four three seventy three three touchdowns.
They ran the ball twenty one times for one hundred and eleven yards, and Kyle Pitts went off tonight eleven catches, a bus sixty six and three touchdowns.
He became the first tight end with at least one hundred and fifty plus receiving yards and three touchdousand a game since I did it against the San Diego Chargers.
Speaker 1Way way back in nineteen ninety six.
Speaker 2The Buccaneers losing this game, that means, if I'm not mistaken, the Carolina Panther is a nine first place if I'm not mistaken.
But we'll see if they're gonna do something about it.
Maybe they can consolidate this thing by winning on Sunday and gaining a little bit more separation because the Carra because Tampa has the head to hear if I'm not mistaken, the head to head a meeting over them because they've already beaten them one.
But since they're in the same division, they do play again again.
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