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Speaker 2You know, if everything had gone as planned, I'll use Tom's line, I'd be now looking out over ten thousand horsepower, eight miles of chrome, and enough polish paint to make anybody smile and be proud.
Speaker 3You didn't tell me that Murphy was going to show up.
Speaker 2Well, you know, and here we are in studio by the way, folks.
So if you're expecting to find us at the PBA two eighty six car show up here in West Milford, technically we were there about forty five minutes ago, well maybe a little long, maybe about an hour and twenty five minutes ago.
And then at the last minute, the thing that talks to the thing that talks to the watching McCall it that makes us go out on air, went see you, and Tom said, I think we have to go, and I went, well, they have little porta potties all the way, and he said, no, no, no, we got to go.
And you never saw two guys pack up their stuff.
And thank God for our support staff today, kudos to them.
We piled everything into two cars and ran down Skyline Drive, which is basically you start at the top of the hill and it's a five mile straight drop.
It's kind of like dead Man's Hill.
All right, and here we are and we're ready to go.
We're ready to do a live show and they'll give you, guys what you need.
It's just we're not at the car show, which is a shame.
It was a great show, it really was.
It looked great.
You know, some of the cars that I got a chance to see.
There was a seventy nine Volkswagon bus camper right, you know to pop up roof.
Speaker 3Wait wit, they were still making those in seventy ninety yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 2And this guy, this thing was really cool.
I was going to interview this guy.
It had it had the Peace signed pillow on the back.
It had like a living room couch set up with the chairs that swiveled, and a stove and a cook top and a refrigerator and a Volkswagen.
It was the neatest thing.
I was impressed by that.
They had a Type three Volkswagen, which is basically a it's a Volkswagen mini truck.
Right.
Volkswagons were big at this show.
It was it was crazy.
There was and I forget what it's called, but it was a nineteen ninety one Z twenty eight road racer.
It was the equivalent of a Yanko Camaro factory race car.
Modified.
They only made I think he said five hundred of them, four hundred and ninety one.
We're gonna do you.
That guy didn't get to it.
So there was some really neat stuff.
And there was the usual combination of you know, big block, this big block that and some.
Speaker 3Weird There were some really cool things around the back.
Just see the thirty eight I think it was the Ford and the thirty nine Chevy.
Speaker 2Did you see the peach colored Willies?
I saw that thing is sharp.
I think that's from the neighborhood around the shop.
I really do, because I've seen that car locally.
There can't be two of them.
But I couldn't find the owner.
But unfortunately Tom called me a quarter to twelve and said, uh oh, and I know what oh means.
And I ran back to the booth and Tom was sitting there.
And let me tell you something, folks, It's not on Tom's shoulders in the In the thirty three years i'm on radio, in the fifteen years with Tom, Tom has never failed to get me on the air.
And today the equipment just didn't cooperate.
Speaker 3Actually, it was more like the online application that would have gotten us on the air, and it just did not want to recognize the audio.
Speaker 2Yeah, and I you know, I can't wait to find out what it is because we had a swivel at the last minute.
And you know, it's funny.
That's what order repair is about.
We's a great segue.
We had a twenty fourteen Chevy Silverado pickup in the shop this week.
And maybe it's good we came back because I've been dying to tell you this story.
So we had a twenty fourteen Chevy Silverado in the shop this week, a regular two door plane Jane Chevy pickup, eight foot bed, four wheel drive.
You know, they probably made two three million of these things.
I mean, how it's so common, right, And we were doing axle bearings.
We had to do an axle bearing in the right rear.
The axle seal was actually leaking.
When we took it apart, we could see the bearing was beat up too, so we had to change the bearing.
Now, this model year, this generation GM pickup truck mounts the tone ring for the ABS sensor, which is a toothed collar on the inside of the bearing.
So if you were looking at this from the outside, you've got a seal, you've got a bearing pressed into the housing, and then after that, inside the housing, you've got this toothed ring on a collar setup pressed into the tube.
So you can't use conventional bearing removal tools because in the past, that bearing removal tool it's a tilting head.
It would slide in you'd pull it straight and would lock in behind the bearing, but there isn't enough room now to allow it to tilt and pull straight because the abist tooth collar is in the way.
Okay, well you know, I guess I've never done one of these because I didn't have the tool I could.
I have done you know, hundreds of axle bearings, but for whatever reason, I hadn't done this particular setup.
Wait, look it up.
We go through tooling.
We need j DASH forty five eight forty seven kent more special axle bearing pullar.
Blah blah blah blah blah.
Great, let's go get one of those.
Well how much is that?
Well that's six hundred and that isn't even the painful part.
The painful part is that JA eighty five four to twenty seven or whatever the part number is is on International outer Space intergalactic back order, like we might see it the last week of December after Christmas.
Well that's great, but this is September and I've got this truck apart on the lift.
Thank god for Amazon.
You know, in order repair, you really have to swivel, you've got to be flexible, you've got to be quick on your feet.
I took that JA eighty five number or that factory tool part number, and I plugged it into Amazon.
And you know, I know, we all complain about Amazon, the big giant that's taken over the world, the one that's you know, keeping people from you know, shop local and all that.
But sometimes because I called on my local guys and nobody had anything, and it turns out that, you know, what happened here is is Amazon converted it to a cheap tool.
I'm not going to say it any other way.
You know, one of those cheap tools from China, right, those fifty dollars toolkits, and that's literally what this was.
It was a fifty two dollars toolkit in a blow molded red case with all the adapters.
And Amazon said, well, this has got a four and a half star rating.
This one's got a five star rating.
But they were all made that cheaper tooling quality from overseas.
I didn't need it to last, I needed it to work.
Once I ordered all three, I ordered the three possibilities.
They were all like fifty to fifty one fifty two.
I spent one hundred and fifty dollars to get three tools where I'd have to spend six hundred to get one, knowing that when I found the one that worked, if I didn't damage the others, get them dirty, you know, muck them up, mar them up, and so forth, I could send them back.
So I'm really spending fifty dollars to get this truck off my lift, this bread and butter Chevy pickup.
And sure enough, with a little bit of provocation and a little bit of heat, it worked.
Auto repairs about swivel and auto repairs about at the last minute, the repair goes completely sideways, and you've got to figure out how to get out of it.
My youngest one said to me, she said, Dad, you know what I like about you the most.
I said, what's that?
She said, you always think outside the box.
And I really appreciated that then and I appreciate it now.
And her point was, and she tells me all the time she goes, you're never stymied.
You're never stumped.
She said.
You may not know the answer right away, but you keep looking and you keep picking away at it until you get to the point of solution.
That's what we did today.
That's what we did Friday in the shop.
You know it was kind of It was kind of comical going back to the car show story because remember that scene at the end of The in Laws where Alan Arkins says to Peter Falk standing and I'm dating myself.
Old movie, right, but you got to go see it.
It's a great movie.
It's a funny movie.
And Alan Arkin at the end, they're blindfolded and their hands are tied behind their back and are about to be shot by the firing squad and Alan Arkin says, Okay, what's our next move?
And Peter Fowk's like, no, that's it.
That's all I got.
Why what do you want to try?
And he's like no, No, that was me and Tom today.
Tom's like we got to go.
We can't fix this.
I'm like, no, Tom, really tell me the truth, Like what are we gonna do?
There's there's got to be away, Like Tom, you're Tom Ray, There's got to be a way to fix this.
And we just flew down Skyline Drive where if you know Skyline Drive in West Milford.
I do want to apologize to that cop and Franklin Links because I went past him full throttle, hammered down on the fifty five and he just I think the look in my eyes.
He knew I was late getting somewhere, So I promise I'll slow down next time.
Anyway, let's pull over, take a pause.
We're going to come back and answer phone calls at eight five five five six oh nine nine zero zero again eight five five five six oh nine nine zero zero to everybody up in Weston Milford at the PBA two eighty six car show.
We're sorry.
We're gonna try this again next year, we promise, but for now, we'll be back right after this to answer your questions.
Don't go away.
And of course, as bad as Tom and I in company felt today when we couldn't stay for the PBA two eighty six car show, there's Brad with his BMW calling him from Florida.
Because I kind of know this story.
I saw the email came across my desk during the week.
Brad, tell America what happened to your BMW?
Please welcome, Welcome, sir.
Speaker 4All right, thanks for having me.
So I got tired of the dealership old changes.
So I went to a couple group bonds and you named the shops.
It doesn't really matter, Valvelene, Jeffy, Lub etc.
And one of them stripped the drill pan.
And when I took it to a BMW specialist just for one of those typical oil changes, he called me up and said, your prior guy stripped the drill pin and we have to take the engine out to replace the drill pan.
And it's a BMW.
It's about a six thousand dollars charge, and we'll do it for about four grand for you.
Again, it's a sixteen BMW, it's worth about twelve grands.
Doesn't seem to make sense to do that.
Speaker 2So why can't they hear?
Why can't they healy coil it?
Speaker 4I don't know the answer to that.
I've asked a couple of places and they've declined to do it.
Speaker 2I wonder why, you know, because when I saw the email, as a matter of fact, did Jack call you?
Speaker 5Yes?
Speaker 2He did, Yeah, you know, I called.
I called.
I called our BMW specialist here in the area, just to get his two cents on it, and he said, let me give the guy a call.
And you know, his comment was the same thought as mine, that why aren't why isn't anybody lowering the cradle, supporting the engine and lowering the cradle to this way the engine doesn't have to be pulled.
But you know, beyond that, the first step would be, why aren't we why aren't we trying to healy coil the pan?
Is there a reason it's an illuminum pan?
Right?
Speaker 4Yes?
And I don't know the answer to that.
Speaker 2If we can get clear access to it, you know, if we can get clear access to it, a helly coils as strong as anything else.
We put helly coils, A helly coil for everybody's information, it would look like a spring and the outside of the spring would thread into a threaded, pitched hole that would match the springs outside diameter, but the inside would have matched the thread pitch of the bolt or drain plug whatever we're screwing into it.
But we we healy coil cylinders, and you know, spark plugs under compression and never an issue, So you know, that would be that would be my question, of course.
My My other commentary is, you know, why aren't we going back then?
And I already know the answer, but I just want to feel better saying it, why aren't we going back to whoever stripped it?
And saying, you know, what are you going to do for me?
You know, it's it's you know, listen, and I'm not going to lecture you bread.
I feel your pain, but you've you've learned the lesson, right, it's you get what you pay for.
Speaker 4It's I did, I did.
Speaker 2It's you know, it's difficult.
Speaker 4It's a hard lesson.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 4Yeah, but again, it's a sixteen and it's not worth a whole lot, and I don't really see the need to put six grand into it.
I'm trying to find somebody to do the Healy coil the or a vacuum oil change.
I'm not sure you can do a vacuumle change on this particular model.
Speaker 2Well, and you know, if you're doing a vacuum style oil change, you're just you know, all, yeah, that's not a sixty three Chevy Brother.
You know, that's a BMW.
That's a rocket ship.
That's you know, there's a lot.
There's a lot going on there in terms of things that oil does, variable valve, timing, and a bunch of other things.
And I would be more cautious and more content to you know, is there a way to do this more economically?
Have you been to a BMW independent shop.
Speaker 4I've been to one, and I'm going to try another one after this call.
Speaker 2You know, yeah, why isn't this you know, a why can't we healy coil this?
And I think you have to go at this with the approach of you know what, I'm looking for a bm I'm looking for a mechanic from my BMW and and I know this is you talking to them, and I know you hear this all day long.
I'm looking for somebody competent, not necessarily cheap, but somebody competent, right, And that's what you are.
You're you know, it's it's not that you dislike the dealer because of what they are.
You don't mind spending the money.
You just don't know if you're getting what you really need.
Is that a fair statement?
Speaker 4That's exactly why I didn't go there, exactly right.
Speaker 2It's it's there's no personal interconnection communication going on.
It's it's always in the back of your mind, do I really need this?
Am I being cheated?
Am I?
For whatever reason?
And I'm not picking on dealers.
I think there's good dealers, there's bad dealers.
There's good independent shops, there's bad independent shops.
It's it's it's finding a mechanic is probably you know, for most of us is a very personal, you know, endeavor.
It really is.
You know, listen, I go through it around the house.
My garage door broke at house.
One of the garage doors broke at the house over the weekend.
The has a torsional spring, you know, the two springs that wind up.
One of the springs broke.
So you know, I called and left the message, Hey, you know, this is Ron.
It's such and such, and you've been here before.
It's five years.
It's time to change the torsional spring.
Whenever you can get out here, I'd appreciate it, you know, And just you know, just come on out.
And I just and I know they're going to call me up and explain, well, you know we got to charge your service.
Go yeah, great, I don't care.
Come out and fix my problem because I need this spring.
You guys have been here before.
We have a relationship, right, And I think that's what we're looking for in Audo repair.
We're looking for that.
I think some of us are looking for that relationship.
We're looking for that tell me what I need, not what I want to hear.
And and and this is the expensive lesson because you know, I'm not going to tell you.
You know, you're out of your mind.
You're taking a groupon to take a BMW to a cheap oil change place, and look what happened?
Right?
You already know this, you know it's it's but you know, how do we recover from it?
And and my bigger concern would be pulling the engine out of the eight year old BMW?
Do we put everything back?
What do we have to what do we bend, poke, prod twist?
What doesn't go back right?
What doesn't sit right?
Will it ever be right?
Speaker 4That hasn't crossed?
I mean that has crossed my mind as well, you know.
Speaker 2So can we helly coil it?
Could we lower front suspension?
All right?
And you're not gonna hold them responsible at this At this point, it's almost like the car's mechanically totaled until you solve this.
And and you know, is there a way to do that?
The other option is is there enough aluminum in the pan?
And I trying to remember what a sixteen looks like.
They used to make these transformer plugs.
It would be an oversized plug that would screw into the hole and cut its own thread, and you would teflon seal them in place and then it just had a ball valve literally like a like a plumbing ball valve.
You turn the spigot and out it would come, or would have it would have another bolt inside that it would be like an extension going into the into the drain plug.
Is that an option?
All right?
I just I just kind of find it hard to believe that it's got to be this six to eight thousand dollars repair and there's no other course of action.
Speaker 4So all right, that's been very helpful.
I'll keep going down this path and I'll let you know.
Speaker 2You let us know anytime.
Brad, good luck to you.
That's horrible, right, And you can't just say, well, it's a BMW.
It is supposed to be expensive.
Expensive is one thing, Ridiculous is another.
And you know, oh boy, eight five five five six zero nine nine zero zero, running any of the card doctor.
I'll be back right after this.
Don't go anywhere right now?
You mean, like right now, let's go to Lynn, Delaware.
Speaker 5Lyn.
Speaker 2Welcome to the card doctor.
How can I help?
Speaker 5Hey, thank you for taking my call.
Speaker 2You're welcome.
What's going on?
Speaker 5Oh yeah, Oh I have a twenty nineteen convertible Ford Mustang.
Okay, I had sixty five thousand miles on it.
Okay, and I've been working on this for four months.
I've had like a white grayish uh smoke come out.
Timing's off.
Speaker 2I got so you've got you've got a blown head.
You've got a blown head gasket, which is not complete.
Speaker 5I found out a diagnostic testing.
They took pictures of it, and they had a very detailed free page report at the coolants going into the head gasket, well.
Speaker 2Head, the head gaskets blown and cool and is going into.
Speaker 5The engine apparently.
So yeah, okay, and so I've been doing research over the last four months.
I found out there's a lot of class action suits on Eco Boost.
That's what the main problem is.
It's this particular engine, the Eco Boost.
It's expected Lincoln's four trucks, board Mustangs.
There's class action suits.
There's no recall on any of the vehicles.
They don't have enough data or reports.
I've called corporate three times.
I finally got a clean means number.
They will not reimburse me of the expense.
It's going to take place until there's a recall and then they'll replace it.
Okay, But in the meantime, I do have it at a dealership.
They had to tear the engine apart to figure out what parts needs to be replaced.
But this is ridiculous, this show show here.
Speaker 2Let's let's cut to the chase.
I would ask them, why is it that on a Mustang it's not under a recall an extended warranty, But this engine in an escape is kind of the same problem on an escape.
Escapes went through this too, and I believe it was the two three it was?
It was it was the one five if you go look up history on the one five escapes of this generation and and the or was that a two liter?
Uh Escape?
I'm trying to remember now too, You're a two point three leader, correct, I'm trying.
I'm trying to remember which engine?
Yeah, I think you have FO right, I believe you're a two point three liter turbo.
But my point is a lot of this generation it wasn't just a Mustang.
And the reason I'm trying to steer you away from the Mustang is because if we compare the number of Mustangs built versus the number of Escapes built, Mustang is a much smaller volume of built vehicles.
So the pattern of failure to create a recall is going to be smaller.
But if we look at if we look at the same engine in the Escapes, the same family and generation of engine in the Escapes, the proportion of failure is much much higher.
Speaker 5Wow.
Speaker 2And we've had we've had more than a few customers in the shop that have had the head gasket failure.
And the problem was it was porosity and the casting of the cylinder head.
As I understand, it created a defective head and it didn't clamp the gasket correctly and it caused the gasket to blow and leak cooling.
Speaker 5So so my question to them was, if I side it's cheaper to put a new engine in and buy another car because the cars in pristine.
Speaker 2Addition, but it's ten grands for an engine, right, same engine in.
It's ten grands for an engine right right?
Speaker 5Seriously, But I was like, are you putting the same engine in?
Yeah, the same ecopies, And and I said, did you repair that fix this situation?
And they're like, you might want to google that and find that out.
Nobody ever asked us that, Yeah.
Speaker 2That's you know what that that that means you're dealing with a bunch of dumbells.
That don't want to know the answers.
Kid, Yeah, my friend, Yeah, listen, I you know, you know why I'm here after thirty three years, Lend, because I'm the only one that's not afraid to call it like I say it.
I would have been a great I would have been a great baseball umpire.
Speaker 5You know, is this the beginning of a new you're my new best friend?
Speaker 2Well it could have, you know, but you know and now and now you know what?
And now we're going to play the game, right, you and I are going to play the game, because if we were standing in the shop, we'd be playing what what, what next?
What if?
And what color?
All right?
What next is?
What next?
Is what happens if?
And then it leads into what if if we put the engine in?
What if the turbo charger fails?
And that's another six grand?
Speaker 5Well, yeah, what's my warranty?
What's my How many miles am I going to get out of there?
Speaker 2Well, they'll warrantye the engine.
They'll warrantye the engine.
They're not going to warrantye any any of the rest of it.
Part of the problem here, Lynn, I already know what part of the problem is.
All right, is it's a convertible and you love the convertible, right.
Speaker 5Yeah, it's about my fifth one.
Speaker 2Right, yep, you're a free spirit.
You like that top down, wind in your face and hair thing.
You got that.
Speaker 5Oh and guess what, my my vanity tiger is.
Speaker 2Right?
I could, I could see it.
Speaker 5You can tell that I freebird?
Speaker 2Here, I can, I can, I can.
I can see it.
I can see it from here.
And I'm in New Jersey, all right, I'm three states away.
You know.
Speaker 6It's well, you see, I consider I consider Central Jersey and South Jersey state, so technically I'm three states away.
Speaker 2Yeah.
So so the question becomes, before we dump a bunch of money into this, do we buy something newer with less miles and call this the loss?
That it is?
Right?
And that's the question only Lynn can answer because only Lynn knows what her budget is.
And that's that's the truth, right, It's this This was a chronic problem.
Listen, full disclosure.
And for all my Ford dealers out there that advertise on all the affiliates that carry this show, I think Ford has a really decent product in certain aspects.
I think they've got their headaches, like the rest of the car companies, and this particular generation of engine is a headache.
It just is.
Head gasket failures are not uncommon, and turbo chargers are not onc And now you know, we need to have a conversation about you know, quality of oil change, frequency of oil change, regular maintenance, fuel system cleaning and all that.
Speaker 5I have it all backed.
Speaker 2Up, and none of that, None of that would have prevented the head gas get failure.
Because it seems like if one of these things is going to have a stroke, it's going to have a stroke, no matter how many times it goes to the gym.
But once you get past that, it's the regular maintenance that keeps it going longer.
The question for you is this is now a six almost seven year old vehicle, and you're not putting an engine into this car to drive it another year.
You're putting an engine into this car to drive it another five years, hopefully, And what if saying here's where what if comes in?
What if the turbo fails, what if the transmission fails?
And before before we spend this kind of money, all right, you got to play what color Pick a different color car, pick the same color car.
Can you go buy this car two or three years newer, and what will that cost?
What is this car worth?
What will that new car cost?
What are you getting?
I'd like to think that if you bought something two years newer or three years newer, you're getting a car with half the mileage and some sort of extended warranty for five years.
Maybe we could put that on there and get some sort of powertrain coverage.
Speaker 5Right, it's tonight.
Can I interrupt you for a anytime you want to?
Ford, who I was dealing with in the service department, made me aware that he found a program from Ford that will cover half of the costs.
Okay, so I like that idea, but I had they then they called me back and said that they have to tear the engine apart before they can approach Ford with the situation.
I don't know.
As much research as as I've done, I've never found anything like that.
Maybe you have to be inside the corporation to know that that's available.
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah, there.
Well, the reason is is because Ford is likely asking them, okay, what was the point of failure?
All right?
They want to see proof, They want to see pictures, They want to see the porosity of the casting, they want to see that textbook picture of how the head gas get failed.
I think the question is, and I like what I'm hearing that the dealer's doing.
The dealer's trying to their credit, right, I think you got to have that conversation at their elbow with them and say, listen, if we take the engine apart and I get it, that's five hundred dollars I'm risking.
And I turn around and I say, no, I don't want to fix this.
What will this car be worth?
And what else do you have that I can buy as a used car CPO certified, pre owned, two years old, three years old, thirty thousand miles on it?
What does that warranty look like?
What do those numbers look like?
And if all that makes sense, and they're willing to say, well, you know, Lynn, if we take it apart and you don't want to fix it, and we buy another car from you, it's going to cost you this and this, and you can make the numbers work, then you got somebody that's working with you, and you can ask for more than that in this day and age.
Speaker 5You know what I'm saying, Yeah, I got slim pickens, right.
Speaker 2So, but I mean that's Yeah, there's lots of way.
This isn't just.
This just isn't just.
You know, Yeah, it's broke.
How do I fix it?
And what do I do?
There's a lot of what is, what color and what's next to deal with?
So go have some talks, Go have some conversations, bring them coffee and donuts, and that'll be your Monday Tuesday project.
You give me a call back, let me know what happens.
Good luck to you, kiddo.
I'm running ENnie in the car doctor.
We are back right after this.
Don't go away.
Hey, let's go to Matt and Michigan.
Matt, you're on with Ronannie in the car doctor at eight five five five six zero nine nine zero zero.
How can I help?
Speaker 5Matt?
Speaker 4Oh Man not man?
Speaker 2Oh?
Okay, who's Thiste Pete?
Let's talk to Pete Pete in Michigan.
Do we have the state right?
Yeah?
Speaker 7We do had the state right?
Speaker 2One out of two ain't bad, brother, So what's what's going on?
How can I help?
Speaker 7First off, you know, I'm sixty one.
You think i'd have life figured out, But Ron, you set me right with my two thousand and three Cadillac when you said by my window regulator wasn't the problem.
It was a wiring problem.
Speaker 2I got it was well, once in a while, I get it right.
That's why they let me do this.
Honest you think, yeah, probably, So it's you know, listen, there's there's there's just sometimes you just you get you get lucky, you know, right, some day the Mets are going to return to the wheel series.
Probably not in my lifetime, but some days you never know what could happen.
So how can I how can I help you today?
Buddy?
Speaker 7Okay, well, I know this is going to be a shock, but my two thousand and three Cadillac has a oil leak.
Only one, no several, but okay, we're going to concentrate on just one.
Speaker 2Well wait, wait, do we really want to fix this?
Speaker 5Pee?
Speaker 2You know, if we having an oil leak on an older car is a good thing until it hits the rear bumper.
It's just like built in rustproofing.
The car will never rode away.
So you know, I consider that, I know, but it's you know, the cleanup in the garage.
Speaker 7That's the only problem.
I love the fact that the oil resecles itself awesome.
Speaker 2But so you can't get the drain plugs out.
You can't get the bolts out for the pan or what.
Speaker 7No, here's the thing is that I was under it.
Well, the radiators blown out and I'm going to replace that.
But the thing is is that I was underneath the car and I said, you know what, maybe the oil pan gasket just needs to be retorted back to the eighteen foot pounds.
And so I got my torque fringe under there.
I want to go and park it, and it just kept going.
Speaker 5I'm like, this is not good.
Speaker 2Oh you mean the ults a stripped?
Speaker 7Yeah?
Is there a wait?
I can do oversize bolts.
Speaker 2Well, if you, if you, if you, if you've got you're gonna have to get it up in the air on a lift.
You need full height, all right, you can't do it's it's kind of hard to do this on the ground, all right, And you're gonna have to pull the pan down, which I believe you have access to do that.
And then that is that is an aluminum block or a cast iron block.
Speaker 7Everything is illuminous.
Speaker 2I thought it was alumininum.
You're gonna heally coil it, but you got to have a clear shot and you've got to have a good steady eye and a good steady hand.
Speaker 7So I got to pull everything else to do the heating.
Clue, there's not like shelf snapping.
I just put into it.
Speaker 2Well, they've got to remember, if I listen, you can you can hack it up any way you want, all right, I mean you can try, but chances are remember if you have to put a bolt through, that's so course to bite into the block, that's bigger than the stripped threads in the block.
That means it's gonna be bigger than a hole in the oil pan itself.
So you're gonna, you know, snocker that up and then you're gonna make the problem worse.
Speaker 7So you're just breaking my heart round No.
Speaker 2Listen, brother, I'm here to tell you what you need to know and not what you want to hear.
All right, this is it's you know what, and it's just it's just the way it is.
These are life lessons.
So God is tempering the steal.
Remember that.
Look, it's it's it's got to be you.
I'm just trying to, you know, save it from yourself, because you're the guy driving the O three Cadillact, which isn't exactly a car from yesterday.
So the only way I know of is a Healey coil setup, and you could maybe try a longer bolt.
Where does that whole bottom versus the length of the bolt that's in there, would a slightly longer bolt be able to grab some threads that are up in the block.
I would take a blowgun and clear it out with clear out whatever you know, dirt and air and debris is in there, clean it out and just gently snug it up.
Chances are that's not gonna fix your oil leak anywhere because it's an O three cadillact that was I don't know.
They never rusted, but they always leaked.
So good luck to you, Pete, and I was always a fun time to talk to you.
You'd be well eight hundred, I'm sorry, eight hundred.
I do that a lot, eight five, five, six, nine nine zero zero.
Let's take them back to another time.
I'm running Ady and the car Doctor.
I'll be back right after this.
Some closing thoughts for this hour.
Had we been at the car show and managed to stay the whole the whole day, one of the things I was talking to the people that came up to us, and we're again, we're just so kind of bummed out because it was such a connection with the crowd, just a great crowd up there at the PBA two eighty six car show in West Milford at the Wallace Homestead.
And we're coming back next year, we promised.
Tom and I are already making plans for the backup to the backup to the backup option.
Automobiles are a microcosm of history, and it's really that's really what you're seeing when you go to a car show, and this show was no exception because they had everything from brand new just off the showroom flour corvettes to stuff pre war.
There was a couple of pre war cars there.
And you look at the manufacturing processes, you start to think about all the little clips and bolts and screws, and the way vehicles were manufactured almost eighty years ago versus today, and how today everything is injection molded and blow molded and you know, plastic pressed, and such a microcosm of history of manufacturing and the way the country was run and operated, and it's just neat to look back.
Cars are more than just cars.
Some cars are like well time machines because they take you back, and that's what it's all about.
It's been a pleasure this hour, as always till the next time.
I'm Ronning Ay and the Car Doctor, and I'm reminding you good mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless.
See you