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I love it when she is here.

It makes me go yay, yay, it's true.

I'm not gonna lie there.

You saw it in public, yay, Varla.

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Look to make this show a little bit larger, at a little bit more in charge.

We're going to have Varla Ventura on the show here momentarily.

Then in our number three swamp Dweller will join us for a creepy story.

Will follow that up with our good friend Robin Haynes, who will take us home for the cryptid Q and A.

So, with Varla coming on in, we must read her a little bio because I'm pretty good at making these up now, I really am.

I'm getting better each and every time.

Varla Ventura is an acclaimed author, folklorist, and researcher whose work explores the darker, stranger edges of the supernatural, and that's what we love about her.

Specializing in forgotten legends, bizarre lower and uncanny creatures, she has built a reputation as one of the most engaging voices in modern paranormal storytelling.

Her books, covering everything from banshees of vampires to mermaids, fairies, and other worldly beings, blend meticulous research with a deep appreciation for the weird, the wild, and the wonderfully macabre.

A frequent guest on Spaced Out Radio, Varla brings her humor, depth and an encyclopedia of knowledge of high strangeness to every conversation we have with her.

Her work has been introduced to new audiences around the world for cryptids, haunted history, and of course adult adult occult folklore.

Yeah, she gets into the adult content.

No, I'm teasing on that.

I can say that because I know she's laughing behind the scenes here.

You can find her books at any major bookstore.

You can find them online at varla Ventura dot net.

So let's bring her on in Varla Ventura.

We love it when you are here.

How are you my.

Friend wrong livestream?

Yes, yes, I'm great.

That's what a lovely intro.

Thank you so much, a complimentary It's so good.

Good, just you know, pushing through the pushing through the darkness here.

You know, with.

Everyone else, you were one of my favorites to have on this show.

You really are.

And every time when I know you were coming on, I must admit I get a little bit giddy because I know we're going to have a great show.

I know you are going to bring some weird, strange topics to us.

Why do you love the darker, the edgier side of the cryptid paranormal?

I mean, I don't know, I just was literally think that I was born this way.

I mean, some people may say that I was just raised in an environment in which, you know, the strange things were the heroes, the oddities were the precious objects, old things, unusual things, cemeteries, a little witchcraft.

You know.

I learned a lot of spells actually from a young age.

And you know what, when you were reading the names, I have to give a shout out to Terry O'Rourke.

She's a witch that I've known my whole life and has heavily influenced my worldview.

So I was great to hear her name on there.

Merry Christmas Terry anyway, so she's partially responsible for making me a weirdo.

You know, I just some of it is, I mean, honestly, like as a child I was and yes this is probably also telling that I watched certain horror movies too young.

But like I you know, I really like I really like Jack and the Shining.

I really kind of wanted Freddy Krueger to come into my dreams.

I could change him, I can think him feel loud.

Wow.

Yeah, So I don't know, it's always kind of rooted for like the Villains, and you know, my mom is a huge influence on that.

I was raised in an environment like I didn't go to church.

I mean, let's talk about I went a bull on Heathen and I was raising an environment that, you know, learning the terureau and psychic parlor games and doing the Ouija board.

Those were all just like things we did.

They were part of the lexicon occult books, learning about the Kabbalah and Dionfortune and Alistair Crowley and Sybil Leak.

It was one of the books that I read about a diary of a witch.

I read that when I was a young teenager, and that's the Sybil Leak was a famous British witch who made a lot of psychic predictions and became quite popular in the nineteen sixties and was really interesting and quite a powerful woman.

And she had a crow, a jack daw as a pet.

So anyway, these are all these are all things that just sort of influenced me.

And then you know, I guess some people rebel against the things that they're raised into.

I didn't like, what's what's the fun and rebelling against you know, like pagan circles.

It's just like, what are you gonna do like, oh, I'm gonna go to church, you know, or I'm gonna I'm gonna go I'm gonna go become a lawyer or something.

What else?

Yes, on our on our YouTube.

Side, no offense to people who go to church or lawyers.

I'm just saying, like, how do you rebel against a complete heathen environment?

You don't, there's nothing to rebel against, so you know anyway, Yeah, that's why I'm such a weirdo.

In summary.

A lot of people will look at that, and and I've been known to call myself a weirdo, and I don't mind it.

I really don't mind it.

But I can say, you know, for a lot of people that they'll say you're weird, and to a lot of people that's that's an insult.

But to people who are on this side in depth, like you and I are, I mean, it really is a compliment to be called a weirdo, because we love the weird and strange.

I look at it as a compliment.

How about you, bilths a total weirdo, So you know, yeah, it's definitely a compliment one hundred percent.

I mean, it's probably not a compliment if it's you know, if you if you are trying not to be that, or if you yeah, I mean I suppose for some people it would make them feel isolated or you know, they've always tried to fit in.

And then the great thing about being a weirdo, though, is that there's tons of other weirdos.

It's not that unusual to be weird, So there's like a whole family of weirdos that you can fit in.

Well, the paranormal, in the supernatural phenomena, does have a lot of classifications of weirdos.

I mean you have the UFO crowd, the et contact E crowd, you have the cryptid crowd, the the ND and out of body experienced crowd, the paranormal crowd, you name it.

We were filled with it.

And I just love it.

I think it's so eccentric in order to do that and to have all of those types of people coming around, I think it's totally worth it.

Oh, I love it.

I love all the different points of view.

And you know, who am I to draw a line in the sand and judge someone?

Yeah, I believe in mermaids, So.

Well, that's why you're gonna move.

That's why you've got to move to the.

West Coast, you know, normal or average, but it's it's real.

I mean, I do, I genuinely do.

I know the real.

That's why I have to move to the West Coast, because we have to this.

There are still people who claim to see mermaids in the ocean on the Pacific coast.

Absolutely.

In fact, when I was writing that book, I had several people who get you know, I interviewed that gave me stories.

And then even after that, after the book came out, if I was talking about on the radio, people would contact me and say, I had this really strange experience and it kind of matches up with some of the things you were talking about, like you know, it being extremely foggy and hearing like this specific song or voice and it and but a lot of times the stories ended well it was like a guiding sound to get you back to port.

So I guess it.

You know, if the mermaids respect you or don't don't want you that day, they'll help you.

And that's you know, that's that's that's their prerogative.

What is the difference between a mermaid and a siren?

So, by like folkloric or logical definitions, a mermaid is a half fish half human.

Sometimes you see it the other way around, where the head is the fish and then there's legs.

I've seen some really funny like medieval images of that, but generally you have like the lower half is fish and the upper half is like humanoid like torso and face and all that, and a siren.

They do kind of similar things, but sirens are usually do not.

Okay, the names can be used interchangeably today, However, a siren does not technically live in the water.

Often they're like part bird creatures, but they usually live near the water, and they exist to do the kind of the same thing.

They can throw you off with their voice, so they have this enchanting voice, and they can use like you know, echoes and rocks and stuff to kind of confuse you so that your ship ends up crashing on the rocks.

Mermaids can't do the same thing, so I called them the sirens of the sea.

But technically sirens dwell on land and mermaids in the water in the mr.

Now, can sirens also be male because we've heard them her men?

Sure?

Okay, sure, but let's be honest.

They're not as attractive.

More men are going to fall for a siren song than women are.

I'm sorry, it's just that's just facts, like mm hmm.

Have you talked to any sailors or people who in recent times who have seen or heard the songs.

Of these Yeah.

Yeah.

There was one story that so an old friend of mine grew up kind of on a boat that they would go back and forth from uh, kind of like the Santa Cruz area and down into Mexico, and her dad was like a doctors.

It was like doctors without borders, and they would just take their boat down there and the family would live on the boat.

And her mom told me this story.

Actually after she read my book, she called me up and she's like, I don't tell you the story.

And it was this really really foggy night and they you know, the fog had like come in pretty quickly, and they were it was in a somewhat unfamiliar port.

They were they had been out and they were trying to get back in, and she said people were like try, people were like banging things to keep each other from hitting, you know, the boats from hitting each other.

And she heard this voice.

It was sort of like a soft song.

It wasn't like a really loud thing, but she heard this voice and it sort of softly sang to her and told her where to go, and they navigated the boat into the port unharmed.

And she she said, I have no explanation for what that could have been other than, you know, some kind of mermaid that was looking out for us.

So they are known to to look out.

But yeah, I've heard a few stories too of just more just like curious sightings.

Then I've actually been lured to my death right or near death.

Usually just like curious sightings, where they see something.

Often it's not quite as beautiful as it's depicted in a lot of the old ads and stuff, you know, the Victorian era.

You always say these like beautiful.

A lot of times it was like hair ads, like the cover of my among the Mermaid's book that the artist found an old ad for like some kind of hair oil, and it was all these mermaids sitting combing their hair.

So they're depicted in this like much more glamorous way from you know, the mid eighteen hundreds on.

But prior to that, they're a little the you know, they could be seen in a little bit more of a gruesome way, and actually mermaids do have some gruesome qualities jagged teeth, bloodlust.

Are the shape shifters not looking for a mate necessarily?

Are they shape shifters?

I don't.

I don't put them in that category because I think they maintain the shape that they're in at all times.

They are able to sort of.

Now, there there are creatures like selkies, for example, that are they are shape shifters, and they're half seal, half human, and they can actually shed their skin and walk upon dry land and actually marry and have children.

And the secret is.

That the the husband has to hide the skin away, this the seal skin away, and if she ever finds it, she's forced to put it back on and go back out to sea.

And there's all these beautiful old English ballads and Irish story stories about selkies having to leave their entire families behind because their skin was discovered and the spell was broken and they had to go back out to see.

It's really sad and beautiful.

So they're shape shifters.

So I talk about those a lot in conjunction with mermaids, but mermaids themselves, I do not put them in a shape shifter category.

They're just mermaids all the time or Merman or you know these semi aquatic exchange.

Beings Merman, Merman, don't you zoo lander Merman.

Yeah.

One of the greatest slides ever, one of the greatest lines.

Every one of the things that we're going to get into the lot of Christmas stuff coming up here, but one of the things that really has interested me.

And I don't know why because I hate the ocean.

Okay I do.

I hate the ocean.

Okay, what's wrong with you?

I know, I know, it just broken.

Oh, there is nothing good in the ocean.

The ocean is beautiful.

Hear me, hear me out.

The ocean is beautiful.

It's creatures are beautiful.

Okay.

I'm a meal.

Okay, I am a meal, whether it's to a giant squid and octopus, any type of shark, okay, barracuda.

I am a meal, even those giant you know, giant groupers.

They can swallow me.

You know.

I am a meal.

And I like the ocean from afar Okay, like I like it over there in the west.

This is why I live on top of the mountains.

Okay, I like it in the west.

And look the ocean.

I love it.

Every creature in there.

I love, I do.

But I hate the ocean for me because I am not going in the ocean.

All right.

I'm not a little appetizer.

I am a full on meal that if some porpoise or some great white you know, or killer whale decides that, hey, I'm hungry.

What is that swimming in the water over there, Let's go have a little nibble.

That's what's going to happen to me, right.

I ain't taking that chance.

I am not taking that chance.

Okay, So you don't have you ever swam in the ocean?

I haven't.

Have you actually gone swimming?

Yes?

I have, Yes, I have.

I think the last time I went for a swim in the ocean, I was oh, let me see here.

I was twenty five years old, okay.

My first radio gig.

My first radio gig was on Vancouver Island, Okay.

And oh yeah, and I walked out to this to this little rock thing that was that was out there because the tide was out.

And as I was sitting there watching the bald eagles, the tide came in.

Yeah, tide came in, and you had and it put like a it put like a deep moat in between myself and this little island, and all I could think about it was only about twenty five feet okay, and I have no problem.

I could swim there, That's not a problem, okay.

But all I'm thinking about is the minute I go in there, that Finn is gonna come up.

Okay, I'm gonna start hearing Dunna, Da Da Donna, Donna.

Right, Jaws is.

So responsible for tormenting people and their feelings in the ocean.

Not that sharks aren't a legitimate risk, right, but the whole Jaws series just really ruined the ocean for generations.

Yeah.

Absolutely, this is why I will I will always view Australia by video.

Right.

No, I would love to visit Australia.

But you know what, I damn well know that a croc is gonna get me, bull shark is gonna get me.

A great white will definitely get me.

Okay, not taking the chance.

I am not taking the chance.

Okay, I've gone two thirds of my life.

If I figure I'm dying at eighty five, I've gone two thirds of my life.

Okay, literally dodging the ocean.

Okay, I've dodged the ocean.

This far, so far, so good.

Right, I could go the next thirty three years without doing it, and I'm gonna be good at it.

Well, I'm not gonna pressure you into the ocean.

But I love the ocean, and I know it's kind of scary.

You know, it's got these incredible curve rints and waves, and the Pacific Ocean, especially all along from where you are, all the way down till you know you hit like southern California, even even all the way down into Mexico.

It looks warm and calm and nice, but it's it can be very yeah, very treacherous, very dangerous.

But I think that's part of what I enjoy about it.

Well, let me let me finish my whole conversation here, Okay, Okay, allow me to.

I want to explain why the ocean sucks.

I want to.

I want to, uh, I want to see a ghost ship.

Okay, you're gonna have to be on the ocean for that.

I could be on the beach.

Yeah, you don't have to be in the ocean.

You could be on the beach, but you're gonna have to be on an isolated beach.

So I and here's the thing, no lifeguard here is the thing.

Apparently apparently around April tenth, the time when Titanic went down, apparently off the coast of Newfoundland.

Sometimes people see Titanics ghost ships sailing.

Oh, that would be incredible, and.

That just fascinates me as well as the Harbor.

In the eighteen hundreds, the harbor for in Halifax, Nova Scotia blew up, killed hundreds of people, and apparently people still see the ghost ships like that.

Literally there was a like a ship.

It was like a powder keg explosion on this ship and it demolished all the ship, and the fire rained down on the town and literally burnt Halifax to a crisp Yeah, and there's apparent we still ghost ships in the harbor.

I wonder if anyone ever sees that goes to the Edmund FitzGeralds.

That is another one.

I always wonder that.

Right.

Yeah, I'm gonna get you to hold on right there, Okay, okay, I'm gonna get you to hold on.

One of my favorite authors in the world, Varlaventura, is here tonight.

When we return from the break, we're going to get into the darker side of Christmas, the spooky legends, the spooky Lore the Spooky History Varlaventura dot net.

On this Christmas, It's going to be great.

Hello, dirty, hilarious.

Oh Dve Varlet hi, Phils.

How are you, dude?

I'm drawing cartoons.

Are we all going to Vegas together in May?

Okay?

So this is why I needed headphones with.

My dogs are fucking insane and they start barking and like one of them is so obnoxious, sparking at the big Foot.

Yeah, I have to let her in.

She won't bark inside unless the delivery truck comes.

And it's eleven thirty at night here, so no delivery truck will come.

No eleven thirty pizza.

I mean, we could get eleven thirty pizza if you want, but there's no eleven thirty pizza right now.

Okay, let me go.

Taco Bell.

You never go wrong.

Talk about Oh, you know where I was just the other week, Dave, and I totally I should have taken a picture of it.

I totally thought of you.

But like, have you ever been to the Taco Bell in Pacifica, California.

No, literally, the most beautiful taco bell in the entire world.

It's known for this.

So I happened I went out to California to visit with my family for a few days, and a friend of mine was playing a little gig in Pacifica, which is a town just south of San Francisco, right, and I met her down there or she picked me up at the airport and we drove down there and basically whatever.

We went to the show and stuff.

It was great.

But on the beach, I guess it's tech.

I think it's technically called like is it called like Rio del Mar?

Anyways, was right, it's Pacifica has this big, beautiful beach.

There's tons of surfers.

It's where they do the Mavericks Surfer competition.

And there's a fucking taco bell like right there on the beach, but the most beautiful million dollar view.

Could imagine not just a taco bell, but a fucking taco belly.

Yeah, you would love it.

You know, the next time you go to I know you go to San Francisco for that one conference, yes conference, The next time you do that, you should like, especially if you know someone there that has a car, because it's it would be kind of expensive to uber down there, and there's not great public transit into Pacifica.

But if you could get someone to take you to that tako, value'd be.

I've been to San Francisco to this conference I think four or five times, and I've been to the city once.

I haven't left the hotel.

Because it's in like it's at the airport.

Yeah, it's right by the airport.

Yeah.

Oh what airport?

The San Francisco Airport Yeah, yeah.

Which is a gorgeous airport is beautiful.

It's got like a freaking like yoga studio there and stuff.

I swear one time.

I swear one time when we were coming in for a landing, because I was I always look into the water to see if I could see jaws.

I swore one time I saw something big.

You can't.

Actually, there's there's videos where you can see like the Great Whites, like circling in the like underneath the Golden Gate Bridge and stuff.

Yeah, waiting for Dave waiting day.

They're like, oh, he just got here.

That's our that's our meal ticket.

Hey, philth can I just point out to you, like my nails, look at how beautiful they are.

Look at mine.

I know I was admiring yours, So.

Thanks for I appreciate it.

Okay, give me one second.

I'm going to go make sure the.

Dog is you.

Go ahead one.

Hello Deve, Hello dirty, Hello dirty.

I'm supposed to tell you, the corporal says to say hi.

By the way, Oh thank you, corporal, Thank you.

Tell Merry Christmas from Dave.

I will all give him a big hug for you.

Please appreciate that Terry Hall and his beautiful mustacher in the chat room tonight.

Terry give us a little Salvador Dolly on that mustache for us if you don't mind, Good morning skip to maloo Ozsi Ange.

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All the AUSSI people, have you got your Christmas shopping done yet?

Well?

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Oh yeah, Jessica McCreery, how are you do?

We want to see Varla Ventura doing her lipstick during the show.

Here, hold on, see if we can catch her.

Damn it, I was actually taking pills.

Oh nice, All the Aussies are already shopped out.

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Barla Ventura is about to break it down on the spookier side of Christmas legends and lore momentarily.

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Here she is Varla venture.

You can find all of her books at any major bookstore or or at Varla Ventura dot net.

Let's bring her on back, Varla, how are you my dear?

Or just show up at my door and demand a book.

Kind of creepy, but it happens.

I'm still great.

Yeah, just you know, working working it through, fixed my lipstick.

Everything's good.

Creepy Christmas story.

She doesn't bark excessively in the background.

Yes, because you were worried about your dog a bit.

My doorstop looking for a book and then you know that.

Dog tell us some creepy Christmas stories.

Oh you want to see on topic or something.

I would like to it helps.

All right, Well we should probably kick off with Crampus, right, because that's sort of the he's the most well known, uh, the sort of strange creature that we think of prompis half demon or or goat or demonic goat.

Yeah, usually like half demon half goat.

Basically like a goat footed god.

Now the goat footed gods.

There's a long standing reputation of goat footed gods throughout pagan mythology, you know, going back hundreds and hundreds of years, and in particular around the solstice, there was something called the There was the wild hunt, which was a time when basically the wild beasts would a little bit like how on Halloween, like all the all the spooks come out.

The wild hunt is sort of like all the wild creatures, the were wolves, the the goat footed uh, demonic entities.

Of course, they wouldn't wouldn't have been considered demonic then, because demons are a construct of, you know, the more modern Christianity and the idea of the devil and demons in hell and all of that, but they certainly had sort of negative or terrifying connotations.

So frequently around and ritualistically, this was celebrated in a massive hunt.

Now you can imagine that this is very important going into the winter months that you stock up on some deer meat or whatever it is that you're hunting, right, and so it's sort of a frenzied night in their bonfires.

And some of these traditions have you know, bled over into a more kind of sort of a milder version around the solstice and then eventually sort of trickled into what we think of in kind of like you know, the more modern sense of Christmas, which is an amalgamation of so many different things, at least here in North America.

You know, we've got influences from all around the world that kind of alter our view of what we think of or at least what you know, people born post nineteen ten think of in terms of Christmas.

So Crampus is a goat footed god, and you'll see other examples.

We'll also talk about callan Conceroy, which is a goat footed god from a goat footed sort of entity that comes a monster that comes about around Christmas time during the twelve days.

If you're caught wandering when you're supposed to be home all devout between Christmas Eve and the Epiphany, the calan Conceleroy can come and basically like it comes out from its underground layer and you know, skins you alive.

It's pretty vicious.

Well, it's very Trampus like.

It's kind of described in a similar fashion.

So there's there's quite a few examples.

Crompus, you know, half Crompus or Crampas, depending on you know where you're from, half demon, half goat god, just sort of this kind of wild beast, and Crampis is basically the like other half is sort of the bad cop to uh Saint Nicholas.

So Crampas is traditionally in Germany and some other parts of Europe, but especially in Germany, you had Trompus show up on Crompus knocked and this is where the what happened to all the like naughty children, right, so all the naughty kids would get not just get cold, but they would be stolen and beat with switches.

Space out radio does not condone any of the behaviors that Barla's about to talk about, but I'm just gonna say it.

This is like the tradition, you know, taking children, throwing him in a sack, sometimes just murdering them.

This was like the it was pretty extreme, right, pretty extreme German folklore.

Can you imagine?

Wow, there a.

Reputation for this, and then the antidope, the kind of like flip side to that was like the next night was like Saint Nicholas, and Saint Nicholas was known for being like giving and rewarding generosity and kindness and loving behavior.

And so today what we have is we have the naughty list and the nice list, right, that's kind of how that they'll holdover from that, So those are nice.

That takes a pretty wicked imagination to come up with some thing that grotesque.

I mean, unless it's real, and then you're not imagining it at all.

Hm.

Well, every legend starts with something.

Well sure, right, exactly exactly.

And there are also some stories of like Saint Nicholas becomes you know, Saint Nicholas or Saint Nicha is sort of like a mix of all these different things.

But the Saint Nicholas is actually known for protecting children and is like a patron state of children and had this pickle barrel that he could restore children back to life from especially children that Crompus had born.

Apart trying to be YouTube friendly here in in the details, but it's pretty gross.

But yeah, yeah, pretty extreme now, I mean, certainly there's the idea that some of these creatures existed for disciplinary measures.

Right.

It's like the frickin' alf on the shelf.

The parents have become enslaved to to like move it around every night, and the elf is watching and the kid has to behave you know, or we use Santa in that way, like Santa's watching you, you're not gonna get any presents, right, So there's elements of that in there.

But it also, you know, there's there's something about the deep dark of winter, which is Christmas time, which is the solstice.

It is the deepest, darkest part of the winter.

It turns after the solstice and that period of time between Halloween, and you know, whenever the winter solstice comes can be a very challenging time.

You're really going into like some of the darkness.

And as we know, it doesn't end like sure, the days get a little bit longer after the soul'stice, but it still gets dark really early, and it's really cold, and there's there's a lot to get through.

There's a couple of monsters.

I'm gonna I actually kind of wrote you guys a book.

I had some spare time, so I pretty much like wrote a book about Christmas stuff where you guys, but there's oh, we can we can get into all kinds of there's some wonderful things.

But these are a couple like Arctic stories that I thought were pretty interesting.

Right, So here the you pick her indigenous to the Arctic haves and I'm you know, I honestly don't know how to pronounce these things.

I did my due diligence to try and figure it out, but I didn't, you know, find somebody who is indigenous to the Arctic and get the correct pronunciation.

So if you are, or you know, please let me know tell the story of the cog Ouca pac And these are very similar to the Calan conservoy from Greece.

They are subterranean monsters who come out during the darkest parts of winter, but they're actually described as having bulbous bodies.

And frog legs.

They avoid the sun at all costs, which is why they can come out on the darkest, longest night, right, especially if you're in the Arctic, and that you know, they do kind of torment people, but only in that you know you would be a fool to be out late at night, and you know, they're certainly like a good deterrent from wandering too close to the shore or anything like that.

But these sort of like giant creepy frogs, and they can come out during the solstice or during the winter because the sun is like not quite as intense, so they can kind of pop it for the surface.

So if you're a little too close to the water during those times, you could be gobbled up by a giant, bulbous frog like winter monster.

So heed my words and avoid that all costs.

Here's another one.

It's the hi Raya yuk or the Tizzarak, and it's a sea monster and it's basically a big old serpent, big old sea serpent and I know we've got lots of those, especially in your neck of the woods up there, Dave.

And this one is most commonly sided off Alaska's coast.

And it has two heads.

Oh my, that look a bit like a fox.

It also has horns, three stomachs, one for each head, one for each mouth, I guess.

And it's also like partially fish, so it's a partially aquatic creature.

And then we have the mahaha.

This is one of my favorites.

This is the maniacal demon of the sighted in parts of the Arctic.

And this thing is so like it's really creepy.

It's long and thin and sort of elusive.

It's ice cold.

It's often described as being blue or some kind of very cold silver color.

And if this thing touches you, it's basically like instant frostbite.

Interesting, right, that this is a demon that I mean, sometimes I think we have like these medical terms.

Okay, this is going to be like a random tangent, but sometimes I think we have medical terms like Okay, for going back to Mermaids mermaid sidings, people are drowning, they have oxygen deprivation, they think they see things.

Okay, you're getting frostbite, you're getting disillusioned.

You ate this plant, and you're having hallucinations.

In my mind, I don't really think there's a huge difference between what one definition or one modern culture calls a medical condition and what another culture calls a spiritual transformation.

If you've ever gone through an extreme health scare or spend a lot of time in hospitals, it is a very spiritual experience, whether you want it to be or not.

So I feel like sometimes in like the modern patriarchal culture, we dismiss things and by describing them as medical conditions that happen within the human body.

Not to say that they don't happen, but we kind of dismiss the transformative part of that.

Okay, and tangent Anyway, back to the mahaha, the demon that causes the demon that causes frostbite.

What else do we know?

Oh?

Good thing about the Mahaha is that, like many demons, and the devil himself is quite easy to trick, so you just have to kind of outsmart him.

One of the things you can do is convince it to sort of lean over the water and then push it in and it'll be washed away by the currents, which is kind of kind of creepy.

So there's a few for you.

Monster.

Yeah, that's exactly what I want to run into on Christmas Eve.

Oh well, if you were in Iceland, you'd have to be particularly careful because then you might run into the winter Witch.

She might run into Gruia.

She's actually not just a winter witch.

She's an all a year round witch.

But she dwells in the mountain and she comes stomping about, especially in the darkest days of winter.

And if she catches you about, which shouldn't be you should be home with your family, she will throw you into her giant cauldron and cook you up and eat you.

She's the one, though, that has the thirteen Yule Lads.

Do you remember I think we talked about that story.

I actually have all the mule Lads written down.

Give us the mule Lads, because there's.

Probably peoples are hilarious.

Give me one second, I'll find the Yule Lads section of my little novel that I wrote.

You guys here, I was like, yay, creepy Christmas stuff.

Let me write a million things because I can't.

I don't have alas, I don't have the Yule lads memorized.

Okay, so here are the Eule Lads, and they all correspond with specific days now, the twelve days.

So there's always some confusion about the twelve days of Christmas.

Technically, by the sort of like Christian calendar, the twelve days of Christmas are the time as the time from Christmas Eve to January sixth, which is the Epiphany, which is this celebration.

But in Iceland, the twelve days of Christmas actually start on the twelfth of December and go through the twenty fourth, So different cultures have a different view of what those twelve days are.

For a lot of the kind of creepier things I'll talk about later, le you know, like wells running with blood and stuff like that.

Stay tuned that we're talking about the twelve days, which are like Christmas is eve on.

But we'll get to that in a minute, because meanwhile, Yule Lads, Okay, so we will start on the twelfth of December.

So if any of these days of your birthday, what are you?

Okay?

The very first okay, So these Yule Lads are all mischievous.

They are the children of Grulia, who is the Icelandic witch, and they can both be gift givers and sort of mischievous thieves, and each one of them represents a different attributes.

So on December twelfth, you might encounter steak gesture and that is the sheep coat cloud.

And to be honest with you, I have no idea what that means.

I have no idea what that means.

I looked up all kinds of stuff, and I really didn't find a good explanation of what sheep coat cloud meant other than someone who might steal a sheepskin.

But that didn't seem right.

So if anybody has any clue, icelandic icelandically, let me know.

The second one is the you jagger, and that's the gulligock.

And this was on the thirteenth of December, and this guy preyed on cows.

So that's what Guligach means.

He was the one that went after the cattle in your fields.

Apparently he hides in ditches and steals milk.

Oh.

The sheep coat claw does.

Gulligock, oh?

Yeah?

And from cows, yes, yes, But what about the sheep coat clad the stick juice?

Yeah, he harasses sheep, harasses.

Sheep harasses sheep.

Oh.

I mean such an evil one.

I mean, what did the sheep do to you?

Were like the nicest animals?

Yeah, aren't they.

Like they are?

I would agree with you on that one.

Yeah, I would give them one of those.

Yes, I know, leave the sheep alone, why don't you?

Okay, then, okay, this is one of my favorites.

Then we have Stupor aka known as Stubby and Stubby on the fourteenth of December was known as the stubby pan stealer.

So interestingly, a lot of these things have to do with like food or things that you might be preparing for a big old feast on the twenty fourth, then we have, oh my god, a biouslicker.

He is the spoon liquor.

You already know what he's up to, contaminating.

All the soup, all the cake, just licking the spoon.

Don't lick the spoon, don't click the spoon, don't lick it.

Don't like this spoon.

But it gets better because the next night you have to be wary of.

Up to the sixteenth of December, you must be wary of the pottish licker.

That's the pot liquor.

Same thing going in scraping the pot ruining things with your bacteria.

Also following that, we have the Ascus clicker and the Ascas liquor is the ball liquor.

Ooh, licking the ball?

Fine, we all like to lick the ball, to be honest.

Yeah, slick hides under beds to lick bulls.

No, we sneaks into the kitchen door, you know, bring.

Me your balls.

I want to give them a lick.

I mean, who hasn't licked the bowl when they made a chocolate cake?

Though?

Right?

Right?

If you haven't, have you lived?

Oh you never know?

Well I highly recommend it.

Right.

So now we have the herd Is Scaler that is on the eighteenth of December, and this guy's the door slammer.

So now this is like, don't slam the doors or if you hear a door slam, you think the hurd Ist scaler is in here and it's probably up to no good.

Also encouragement to latch your doors.

The scare Gaumer is the the skier gobbler and skar being the Icelandic form of yogurt, which was very which is a very important part of the food culture.

And there was always like a yogurt culture sitting on the on the counter, so you don't want someone coming in again, just like eating all your yogurt.

And now we're going to get to like some of your favorites day, okay, on the twentieth of December, under all sorts.

You know, no matter what, you must be completely cautious of the Ugen Nakar Ricker.

And that's the sauce sage swiper.

You don't want anyone spot, you know, coming any of those nice cured meats hanging in the back storage room.

And along comes the sausage swiper, the bug netreker too much.

Nobody wants their sausage swiped.

No, that's heartbreaking, I mean heart you can't help it.

Then the super creepiest one is the glueg Gregor, and this is the twenty first of December.

He's the window peeper.

I don't like him one bit.

Isn't that so creepy?

Uh?

And then.

I love this one.

This is now we're on the twenty second so what days it?

Okay, so we're almost we're almost coming up to, like tonight, what you need to be worried about.

So last night you had to be particularly cautious of the Gotta Piffer, who is the door sniffer.

Apparently he has a huge nose and loves the smell of baked goods.

Oh I'm sure, Yeah, we.

Got a minute to go, give me two more.

Okay, you got the cat recur which is the twenty third is tonight, and this is like the meat hook thief.

So you got all your meats curing for the winter and for festive meals, and this guy comes in and tries to steal all the meat.

And then your very last one, which is tomorrow night, is the kurta sneaker, and that's the candle beggar.

So he comes and tries and takes away all the candles, and you need those, especially on Christmas Eve.

So ule lads.

They're sort of fun and mischievous, but also a little freaky.

That is kind of creepy.

The window peeper, that is kind of creepy.

I love the snapshot though, into what is important during that time of year.

Well, everybody's going to have a mascot.

That's why we have Dirty Filth.

Keep your sausages in order.

Oh yeah, let's look at Filth's.

Well we will in a little bit.

Our radio audience can see his cartoon.

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You go you don't you know you're in charge?

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Totally.

You know you were talking about things that drown people and whatnot by Dave go let the dog Man out, and it reminded me of one of my favorite Slavic store creatures and whatnot.

Oh but first before before I before I mentioned that I have to I always like showing this because this is the coolest thing in the world.

I have this book, oh to my favorite filthy thing that goes bump in the night, and I love it.

You remain Anyways, and as such.

In the I believe it was.

It's some sort of Slavic thing.

So it's all the same thing in the general area there.

But there's a creature called the Vodnik, and he wears a lean jacket and his coattails are always wet, and I think he wears red shoes.

But the thing is, don't go near the water or the vodnikel drought take you and travel.

Yeah, totally, And.

So anyways, I guess the story goes because I found this weird book.

I'll have to take a picture of it later and send it to you.

It was for a game or something.

Anyways to talk about it.

But he takes the souls and he puts them in jars in his underwater layer.

And sometimes when his soul escapes, when you see a pool of like standing water and there's nothing around and a bubble comes out, that's the soul escaping the Vodniko.

Apparently, if you go fishing, and you would like if you're going fishing, what you're supposed to do is take a little bit of tobacco and sprinkle it into the water and say, I've given you tobacco, Vodnick, Now give me my fish, Hello, Sackage.

Look, I got to the coolest cats hanging out here tonight.

But yes, so apparently you give little tobacco and you say, I've given you tobacco, Vodnik, Now give you my fish and then you won't have any problems tissue.

That's so great.

Man.

The Slavic some of those Slavic stories are just the darkest, most intense.

That's out of control.

I love it.

I know.

Wow, I'll send you some picture.

I'll send you a picture of it afterwards.

I can't even remember a game what it was from.

It was a box set board game thing.

Oh and yeah, i'll have to I have no idea what it was from.

Hellot Sackage, And uh, yes, i'll send you that.

I was like showing off my fairies, pookas and changelings special.

And here we have here that I just fucking finished another book.

It almost kills Yeah.

So I'll have another book coming out in the fall, and this one's all about weird plants.

So that's fun.

And I got the second book finished, and I'm working in the third one.

And I looked at it today.

I've got I've got eighty seven drawings for the thiry what already before I even like paid attention to what.

I was doing.

So yes, let's let's set a gander at this.

Here we have the Goblin with his he's with the night Crawler in the Goblin says, give me a hug, and the Native Raiders says Nightcrawler in fact, had no arms and could not hug the goblin.

Eleven night colored shoes.

Wait a second, I have to color the bucks and hurt your eyes children, I'm using it.

I'm not using water color for this.

Oh I love his Nobody's gonna know.

Thing he doesn't hard is for that guy to open pickle jars without arms and hands and grasping digits.

Yeah, that's no wonder he stalks others.

Actually, he's got a girlfriend.

Oh yes, Lady Nightcrawler.

She has.

She's so demure.

And you know what, Lady Nightcrawler works at the local animal shelter.

She stitches all her own clothes, sells them to the clothier, and she's a DJ on the weekends at the Liquid Lounge.

Wow dream What a dream partner.

And she also owns the only castle in the city.

Oh, what does the night Crawler bring to the relationship.

He's just a nice guy.

It's not enough.

He doesn't even have arms.

Come on, well he's got a secret move with his mouth, right?

Is that literally all it takes.

He's just not mean?

Well I guess so.

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He's in and his out.

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Right here on spaced Out Radio, we bring in Varla Ventura.

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She is here to talk about the darker side of Christmas and the legends that go along with it.

Varla, we always love it when you're here.

How are you lovely?

Just lovely?

Had a nice chat with filth Yes.

Yeah, so right before the break you were talking about the Yule Lads.

Yeah, yeah, they are weird.

They're tricksters.

Yeah, yeah, they do weird things from Iceland.

Yeah, and you definitely you don't.

There's all things you don't want them to do.

You know.

It's not like, oh yeah, come in and leave me like a little present in my shoe.

It's like, you know, they're they're thieves, and they're mischief makers and there mayhem creators.

Have they ever been seen outside of Iceland?

Not to my knowledge.

They live with their mother in the hill Rulia and they come out during the holiday season, during the winter, so not to my knowledge, I've not actually ever even heard of.

I mean, there's plenty of little like goblins and trolls and things that come out around Christmas time, but I've never heard of thirteen like a collection of thirteen brothers who are you know, all kind of in succession like that.

It's a very unique tradition.

Let's move on.

You have like you know, you have the Tompty and the Nissan.

Those are sort of like in Sweden and Finland, and those are little sort of sort of troll like creatures.

Often you can find them in a store, just sort of like a little wooden stump that has a hat on it, and they have a remarkable similarity to kind of a primitive looking Santa Claus.

But these were little magical spirits that you would make an effigy of and you would put that on your doorstep or on your hearth to protect your family and to bring in good luck.

And it was believed that you could kind of leave offerings for the Tompty and the Nissen and they would come in and they would give you good health and prosperity through the coldest and most dangerous time of the year and into the new year as well.

So they were kind of more a little more benevolent than the mule lads.

And I shouldn't say they were mistakenly spoke of them in past tense.

We have no evidence to suggest that they're gone.

I do have to get back to something.

You briefly mentioned it in the last half hour, and this has been a pet peeve of mine for about fifteen eighteen years now.

Okay, I hate the elf on the shelf.

I know, I hate the elf on a shelf.

Didn't you do it?

And I think when you did it, I was like, ugh, do you do it?

In your house.

No never, I've hated it since the beginning.

Yeah me too, me too.

We threw it out.

Someone gave us one, and I've.

Never put my kids through that.

And I just absolutely cannot stand the elf on the shelf.

It drives me nuts.

I mean, I actually think it's really cute, like it reminds me of these like really like retro cute little elves that were dolls when I was a kid, that like my grandma had on her tree.

So like the toy itself doesn't bother me, but the the additional work on you know, especially around the holidays.

I'm sure some people enjoy it, but do you really like every single night you're trying to like you know, maneuver it and come up with all these things, and it's just like who can keep that up?

It's hard enough just you know, with like Santa and the wrapping paper and the stockings and you know, all those things, not to mention working extra and affording.

You know, there's just like ah, an elf on top of it all that is creepily keeping an eye on you.

That's that's the whole thing.

Is like Santa's spycam, which is not a fan, not a fan, not a fan either.

You know.

And then you know when when reels started becoming really popular on Facebook and Instagram and YouTube, where you get all these these these people who are like like doing up the elves and putting them in places to freak their kids out and all this kind of stuff.

Yeah, I just I was like, just just go away, go away.

Don't like it.

It's a lot.

And I used to work somewhere where we did a lot of like parenting articles and stuff, and so like this time of year, we'd have like twenty five elf on the shelf ideas, and there we would always behind the scenes kind of like laugh at the ones that were rejected.

This one of the women that I worked with, and she's still a dear friend of mine, straight up caught her elf on fire, straight up caught it on fire and had this super damaged elf that she.

Then had to continue through the rest of us, you know, the next week and a half of like just like it was the most epic elf on the shelf fail ever.

And I was really proud of her for pushing through.

You know what I do miss you know what Christmas tradition I do miss?

Okay, is I do miss do you remember, you know, because we're more an internet age, we don't do it anymore.

But I miss around December getting Christmas cards in the mail.

Maybe it's just my house that it doesn't happen anymore.

I get fewer and fewer every year.

I think I've gotten like four, four or five.

I mean, I'm super guilty of that.

I have a very large family on my mother's side, and I love them all dearly, and I just held myself to this kind of ridiculous standard where I had to write a personal note in every single one of them, and then you know, then you have to write out all the addresses.

And I would literally spend like three weeks filling out cards.

And then one winter I was really sick and I just didn't do it, and then I just never did any Yeah, maybe I'll send out the occasional card, but I don't do the whole Christmas card thing anymore.

And I think, I mean, I love getting them, and I think it was really lovely to send them, but I just you know, there's only there's only so much you can do.

And also who wants to who wants to send something out when you're just like kind of like cranky about it, you know, like, oh, let's get this out, okay, Like where it's a stressful thing.

Like the whole point is because you're thinking of someone and you want to send them something with like gratitude and love, not something forced because you're feel the pressure of keeping up appearances or you know, whatever, whatever thing's going on going on there.

I don't know, maybe I'll start sending cramps cards out.

That would be fun.

The you go.

You know what I did one year, It's really great.

It was I sent out New Year's cards.

It bought me an extra week.

It was absolutely great, actually two extra weeks because people can get it the whole first week and it just they Actually it was like a vintage card that said Happy New Year on it, so I didn't even have to worry about like the whole Christmas deadline.

That was really smart of me.

I've only I only did that once, but it is nice to get cards.

Yeah, all right, let's move on.

You got more for us.

Let's move on from cards.

What's the next weird one?

Okay, Well, let's talk a little bit about some of the things that might happen to you if you were caught wandering about on Christmas Eve after midnight.

Should we do that?

Let's do it.

Yeah.

So a lot of these stories are a bit like the kind of cautionary tales that you hear, especially in Celtic mythology and Ireland specifically, where if you are roaming around on the wrong road, that you have to be mindful of the little people, right or the good the good folk, very folk.

And there's one particularly gruesome story about this man who is it's not like Halloween or anything.

It's not sowing.

It's just like this random night where this guy is out after midnight on a road that is known to be inhabited by the good people, and he basically sees he's starting to rock down the road.

It's the dark, it's you know, a little bit after midnight, and the they're carrying a corpse.

There's all these like little.

Creatures carrying a dead body, and basically, since he's seen them, they enlist him and he then has to carry the body.

They're like, oh great, well now you have to carry the body.

So he has to carry this body by himself all the way to this particular graveyard, wherein he then has to dig a grave amongst all of the ivy there for protection, and then he has to bury this body, and he has to do this all before the sun comes up, otherwise you know, even more horrible things will happen.

So the guy does all that, he manages to do all the tasks, gets the body buried, and I think the I think actually the corpse starts to talk to him toward the end of the story.

Super creepy.

So on midnight on Christmas Eve there are some kind of similar stories of being in the wrong place at the wrong time, which really midnight and Christmas Eve, the only place to be is home, right in theory, so if you're out and about you might discover, okay, Guernsey is an island that is off the coast of France and is very steeped in Celtic mythology as well, and so a lot of these stories come from Guernsey and other parts of what was one's Celtic territory.

I guess kind of still is in a way anyway.

So wells at the stroke of midnight are said on the island of Guernsey are said to turn from water into wine.

However, you mustn't test this theory if you were to go out and test the theory.

There is a story of a woman who wanted to see if this was true, and she went out that one past midnight and she drew water from the well.

And I actually have the quote here of what the voice from the wells said to her.

Okay, drew water from the well.

And when she pulled it up, it wasn't water, and it wasn't wine.

It was blood.

And then she heard a voice and the voice said, so ton avin too is pro di tefin and that means terrible French.

Sorry, I really need to work on that.

All the water has turned to wine and you are near your end.

So basically the woman dies like twenty four hours later.

That's so this is one of the things that can happen if you disobey the the you know, general laws of superstition, not to go out past midnight another thing.

So this is actually considered a time of high magic.

That's what's also very interesting.

We think of Halloween, we think of that sawing as this time of year when you know, everybody's is the veil's thinnest, and there's all kinds of like creatures afoot and there's all kinds of like magic and that's absolutely true.

But that's kind of just like the gateway into this really really dark time leading up to the solstice.

And when you have when you have that kind of like constant magic and that sort of thinness and ghosts sort of sweeping about in these strange creatures bubbling up from the subterranean under the cover of night, inevitably you know that this is a really powerful time.

So if you are out past midnight on Christmas Eve, it is also possible that you will be able to hear animals speak.

There's sort of like this magical like it's less than an hour.

It's this period of time where you can hear animals speak.

However, again, sounds great, right, just like the wine.

But often what happens is you hear the animals plotting against the humans.

So there's a little animal farm kind of situation there where you don't necessarily want to know what you're Let's just continue to anthropomorphize our dogs.

We don't really want to know what they they of us, right, Dods pebble are okay, hats you really need to worry about.

Okay, So those are just a couple of like sort of creepy things that can happen if you're out and about, you know.

Other other examples include just sort of encountering a creature such as Birthday, who is a winter spirit who's also known like the the one we talked about earlier from the Arctic who's known to cause frostbite.

There's instances of people getting lost when they're you know, super close to home and it's the air is clear and there's no there's no fog and there's no mist and they never they never come back because they went for a walk or they left too late from the pub and ended up you know on a I don't know, it's getting snatched supernaturally on Christmas Eve.

So it also can be a great time for actually trying to make contact with things.

And then the other aspect of that is the ghost aspect, and like why we tell ghost stories and why ghosts are so prevalent around this time again, veil is paper thin, and it's an excellent time to try and communicate in the more darkness the better for communicating with the dead.

And so it's an excellent time to honor ancestors, to think about loved ones, especially because you know, the holidays can be really hard and there's you really feel the emptiness of the people who aren't with us anymore.

So it's a great time to do ancestral magic and do some rituals surrounding that to kind of ground yourself, especially in the face of what can be a very challenging season emotionally.

It is an emotional time for a lot of people.

It is it is you know, I mean, can be joyous time, but it is you know, you feel lost more sometimes than others, and this I feel like the holiday season is a time when you often feel lost the greatest.

Yeah, I would agree with you.

But I have one buddy of mine where he looks forward to Christmas every year because it's his one day of the year where he has nobody around and he loves it.

He loves it.

He just sits down at his television, watches football all day and then goes to bed early.

So he does.

He doesn't have to work and he doesn't have a family.

Yep, that's exactly it.

Yeah, he was bragging.

He was bragging how he had to buy one Christmas present this year and that was just for his is our work, our work secret Santa draw?

Oh funny?

Yeah, Well, cool, dude, you know, as.

Long as you're happy, we have five minutes before we got to go to break at the bottom of the hour.

Varlavuret is our guest tonight on spaced out Radio.

What else you got for as farla, Well.

We've got some lovely sort of vicious goddesses.

We can talk about winter goddesses.

Well give it, give us a winter goddess or two.

Okay, Well, did you know how much time do you say?

We had five minutes?

Oh?

Yeah, plenty of time to get into Bara or calik Baru.

This is a winter goddess known in Scotland as well as parts of Ireland and some other kind of you know sometimes in like Wales you'll hear some of the stories.

But Bara is the queen of winter and she is kind of especially if you think in Ireland there's the harbinger of spring and spring renewal is Bridget and that's in usually I think Saint Bridget's Day is like or uh, we'll just take in the beginning of February.

So you think of the climate, I mean it's a little different where you live, like certainly where I live in February, we're still in the thick of winter, but in Ireland that is a big changing time when like things really start to defrost.

So Beara is the Queen of Winter, and she is actually going around with like giant hammers and slamming into the ground, into the landscape and freezing everything in her path a little bit like you know, it was one of those superheroes when we were kids that would like Iceman or who was that mister Freeze where he would like put his staff down and everything would just freeze a little bit like that.

What's really interesting about her is that she is like she's she's sort of beautiful but also of hideous at the same time, which is my favorite combination.

She's a giant tess.

She has very very pale skin, she has blue hair, but her teeth are really like funky and look like mud.

And in some accounts they say she only has one eye, so she's pretty pretty freaky.

And so her she's basically like just freezing everything.

That's kind of what she's up to.

And she's also a deer herder.

And the reason I bring that up is because the tradition of reindeer has some connections to more than one goddess.

The other goddess that it connects to is one of the goddesses.

Okay, so there's a witch in Finland who is known for being a witch goddess and she's responsible for winter and her the eye idea is that she took the sun and the moon and hid them away, and that's why it's so dark and you have no light, and you basically have to like convince her that you're worthy again by leaving all kinds of offerings.

And you know, in some in some accounts, there's a whole sort of quest that somebody sent on to kind of counteract that the Bera and the the Calic there also known as storm hags, so they cause all of the winter storms.

I'm sure there's all kinds of legends.

You know, in the Pacific Northwest, for example, of the storm hags.

I know that in in Lake Superior, it's get you Gummy, and that's the big lake monster that lashes its tail down and causes the gales of November to just sort of like knock everybody out.

So those are some examples.

But just going back to the going back to the reindeer, there's a few examples and you.

Just let me know, we to we got about a minute.

Okay, we're just gonna do this.

One goddess, her name is Bowi.

She's a Scandinavian goddess, and she rides across the sky in the winter, on the solstice in particular, looking for greenery.

And she rides across the sky in a carriage made of reindeer bones, So she is in search of the greenery for the reindeer that she herds.

So we have like two different examples of goddesses that have an association with deer or reindeer, and that is all part of the kind of like modern mythology around around Santana's reindeer.

And I have a couple other examples for you too, but we'll get into those.

I won't be able to say it in thirty seconds.

Not the problem.

We can wait.

We can wait.

It's going to be good.

I promise everybody it's going to be good and well worth it, because Varla Ventura brings the goods when she is, she brings the goods.

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Yes she did.

That's one thing she does very well, and you can find it at varla ventura dot net or at any major bookstore all of her books.

Yes, she is amazing.

Varla Ventura joins us each and every month, and we're always glad to have her because she is, in my opinion, one of the best cryptid storytellers in North America, if not the world.

And she always has something rich and interesting that we've never heard of that she brings to you, the audience, and we love her for it.

Once again.

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Dave Scott, all right, we are clear, we are we want to do.

I don't know.

I don't know, all right, what the hell?

Oh my goodness, this is fun.

It's a good night.

I'm glad you're taking a couple of days off.

I am.

I have been the last two weeks.

I have been in especially the last two weeks, I have been in a brutal, brutal brain fog.

Oh, I am so tired all the time.

And yeah, and I think it's because I need to be blunting to get I need to get new filters for my sepap.

Oh, that's not what I thought you were gonna say.

So, Yeah, Dave does not reapply his lipstick on brakes.

Yes he does.

He does it off camera.

It's off camera.

Yeah, that's right camera.

Yeah, that's that's really tough.

I mean I've certainly I think, like coming out of my surgeries and stuff, I had so much brain fog and my hope, just my equilibram was off.

And of course that you're not sleeping, well you're not.

I don't know, this is like totally messes you up.

And that's finally just started to clear.

But like I was saying about, like I think I told you this earlier, right, Like I used to be able to just like my all my other books.

I would get down to the deadline and I would just like get my get my stuff, have all my books everything in order, and then I would just write all night.

Like I would write till like two in the morning, and then I would edit it the next day.

And I would just write right right right right till like two in the morning.

And I was usually working a full time job and then coming home and like doing all the dinner for the kid and stuff, and then you know, just starting writing at like eight or nine at night and that would just write till two in the morning, just going hard, and I could, you know, I do that whenever the deadline.

It was like the month of the before the book was due, and this time I just like really grossly underestime.

I'm on a medication that makes me a little bit tired at night too, and so that just was like, oh, not only could I not do it in terms of like I mean, I can stay up all night, but staying up all night and like using your brain and concentrating and doing something important that is I was like, wow, I overestimated mybit to do that anymore.

I don't know if that's something I've lost forever or if it's really just you know, kind of just recovery from everything that I my body's been through.

But regardless, it was real humbling because I could do one thing a day, you know, I could do one intelligent thing a day.

I could do other things, but one intelligent thing that actually required all of my creativity and brain power.

I could do one thing.

So if I had to edit somebody's manuscript, I could do that, but I couldn't work on my own manuscript and do that.

I just lost that ability to you know, have more than like four hours of creative scam.

Yes, so I don't know.

How you do it every night doing the show.

And you work full time too, so oh.

I know that feeling.

Yeah, I'm just.

So good.

I'm glad you're taking So you're off.

I'm off tomorrow Christmas Day and then we call it Boxing Day up Posing Day.

Yeah, and then I'm taking even New Year's Day off.

Oh yeah, good.

Oh guess whose son has a hockey game that they need to leave their house at seven am on New Year's Day.

For Are you kidding me?

That's horrible.

So it's a tournament that goes through the weekend, and quite frankly, it's happens a lot to our particular district, especially with a couple of these districts that shall remain unnamed.

It's other teams, but like, basically, the game is at nine to fifteen, you know the drill.

You got to be there at eight to fifteen and it's an hour away.

Yep, you're up at six fifteen.

Yeah, yeah, I might just sleep in my clothes that night.

Why not?

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Here she is Varla Ventura.

We have her till the top of the hour on the Big Show here.

Barlaventura dot Net is her website.

You can also find all of her books at any major bookstore.

And we are talking about weird, weird Christmas legends and lore Farla, welcome back.

Thank you, You're welcome, very refreshing break.

It was, it was.

I appreciate that I have to tell you this before we go any further.

Uh oh, I love, love, love love Nora Ad sam To.

I do too.

Congratulations and thank you.

If you're listening in from one of the agents or agencies that are out there, hold on, let me put my special hat on for this.

If you're listening in from one of the agents or agencies out there, thank you very much for doing what you do at Norad Santa, because even at fifty two years old, I am really really excited fun about the Santa Tracker.

I love the Santa Tracker.

I love everything about it.

There's nothing nothing more exciting than the Santa Tracker for me, and I.

Love it too.

It is amazing.

I love being able to like it.

Just I love geography and I love staring at maps, and so when you watch it and you're just like imagining what time is it there, and then like you know, it's just watching him travel all over the globe and it's just yeah, it's a pleasurable, pleasurable experience.

It is.

And you've got a little one too, who is like probably like super stoked about it.

Well, he's twelve, it's not that much younger than yours.

Oh yeah, he's not that young.

Wait does he.

Well, let's not talk about it in case.

There's first year.

This is the first year, and I'm honestly, I'm kind of sad about it.

Okay, I'm kind of sad about it.

This is the first year my son has not asked for toys usually.

I asked him.

I saw his I saw his his Christmas list a couple of weeks ago, and I and I said, is it sun?

You don't I said, you don't have any toys on here?

And he's like, well, I said, what about transformers?

What about because he loves transformers?

And he goes he says to me, no, he says to me, no, I have enough.

Yeah, And I looked at him.

I'm like, oh my god, this is terrible.

This is terrible.

Well, you get him like a like a robot toy or something like that with him.

He's fourteen.

So I bought my son a drone last year.

He has never flown it.

Oh well, yeah, why don't you just rewrap it?

I've always wanted to do that.

I bought him a drone last year and he and he still hasn't.

He still hasn't, still hasn't flown it.

He just he's so into hockey and everything.

And the only problem that I have with Christmas time this year is part of his gift has not arrived.

Oh no.

So there's this very popular hockey show on cable now called Shoresy.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay.

I got him a Suresy jersey and it hasn't arrived.

It'll arrive after Christmas.

And I'm just heartbroken about that.

Can you just taken a picture of it and wrap it?

No, I'll just tell him I'm not gonna wrap that.

I'll just wait for it to come late.

And but the other big present that I got him that I'm very excited is I got him a megalodon tooth.

Oh sweet.

Yeah, it's like it's like four and a half inches long, right, and I got it out of North Carolina.

There's this company called the Fossil Exchange.

Shout out to them.

Shout out to them.

Company called the Fossil Exchange, where they literally have these divers that go into a certain part of the ocean of like Florida and they dive for megalodon teeth because I guess this one spot was just a hot bed for megalodon back in the day.

And so yeah, I bought this tooth.

They have a Megalodon tooth on their website that's like eight grand.

Oh it's like seven inches big and like five inches wide.

And can you just like make me a plaster cast of that?

Right?

Yeah?

For like eighty bucks.

Yeah I didn't I didn't pay that that much at all, but yeah, uh, their shipping was incredible.

It got here within like ten days of my order.

And it even comes with a stand and and certificate and a certificate of authenticity.

Yeah, and a certificate of authenticity, which is really cool.

And I can't say enough about about it because you know, I mean I live from there, I live what thirty four hundred miles away, and to make it and to make it up here just in time, and I'm like, like, I messaged him beforehand, I said, will this get to be before Christmas?

And they're like, oh, hell yeah, we'll make sure that.

We'll make sure that.

And it was really really amazing.

So big shout out to Fossil Exchange dot com.

If you want to get a megalodon tooth or a shark tooth or even a shark tooth necklace, they have those on their website.

Yeah, so I.

Know that I've been to Florida a few times to this like beach that's they don't have.

You don't find megalodons there.

But it's like we just I can't remember the name of the actual beach, but we just call it shark tooth Beach because you just go out there and you just start scooping up the sand and you find they're tiny, you know, all these little fossilized shark teeth.

But there's you can you can find dozens of them.

So doesn't surprise me that if there's like a spot that you know, you probably probably have to dive a bit deeper.

Sometimes you'll you'll get one that's like a pretty decent size, but never like actually like a you know, big giant.

Yeah.

It's so cool though, It's such a cool thing to hold something that you know, so so very long ago.

I agree.

I agree.

Let's get back to you, beautiful Varla Ventura.

All right, let's get back to you.

And you were going to tell us about a couple of goddesses.

Okay, So actually I was just going to tell you about so we've got into a couple of the winter goddesses there, but we were kind of segueing into reindeer and like why do we have this like eight you know, the ministress laying eight tiny reindeer, Like why do we think of Santa and the eight reindeer?

So I gave a couple of examples of like the goddess, you know, Bedwe, who is a Scandinavian goddess who rides a chariot full of reindeer bones and is in search of the greenery to bring back and essentially she's bringing back the sun with her and you know, melting the snow and bringing food to the reindeer.

That she's sort of in charge of their sacre.

You know, she's sacred to the reindeer, the reindeer sacred to her.

So you have that, you have h the beara who is a deer herder.

And so there are two examples in Norse mythology that I think also influence the reindeer idea, of the idea of the reindeer chariot, and one of them is Odin right, the big daddy, the big bearded daddy.

He's the you know, he he rides an eight legged horse, so he doesn't or or sometimes isn't a chariot that's drawn by an eight legged horse.

So what's most significant there is just that it has eight, that there's the number eight in there.

Of course, you know Odin is all wise and all powerful, and you know he can help kind of get mankind through a catastrophic winter or major storms.

And you know, to to hear him riding across the sky on his horse was considered like a good a good omen.

Then you also have his good you know, his his son Thor.

And of course we know that Thor is the god of thunder and lightning and also the god of agriculture.

Thor writes a chariot, and the chariot is drawn by eight goats.

It's usually depicted as a goat.

So now you have an eight legged thing, you have eight goats by Thor.

And I think that those it's easy to see, especially stories are passed from culture to culture, language to language.

There's different interpretations.

There's illustrations that might look more goady to one person, and so you can kind of see that the evolution of those when we really think of like the miniature slanging eight tiny reindeer.

That's the Clement what was his name, was it, Clement Moore who wrote twas the Night before Christmas?

Right, he wrote the Night Before Christmas poem which sort of took and personified all these beliefs at the time about Santa and the magic of Christmas and the reindeer landing on the roof.

So those are just a couple more examples where you can kind of see like this culture and this culture and this culture, and in particular you know, I mean in Europe of course, but also in North America.

We have so many different cultures and so as you know, Christmas the way that we sort of celebrated today is quite different than it was celebrated even one hundred years ago or two hundred years ago, and so you have traditions from all these different places and kind of kind of meshing together.

But it was really that poem that this you know, wonderful writer just sort of made up but based on different mythologies that he knew that we kind of have that really modern picture of Santa on his reindeer landing on the roof.

It kind of similar.

Like I think the way that we think of Dracula, so Ramstoker drew on.

He drew on historic figures like Vladim Paler, he drew on folklore and legends from Ireland, Scotland, Transylvania, Romania, like all different cultures.

He drew on superstitions, and he kind of created this this creature that you know, vlad Dracula.

Today, when we think of a vampire, we think of Dracula, right, But he's really an amalgamation of several different things from the mind of an incredible writer.

And so you know, in many ways, that's that's our kind of more modern There's a lot more to it, of course, but that's kind of our modern view of Santa comes from that one home.

I never knew the tie in.

Yeah, it's kind of amazing, kind of amazing that that would have such a huge influence on how we view and the stories that we tell our children every year about Santa.

It's quite interesting.

Now obviously there are a lot of more modern type of stories out there regarding whether it's around Christmas songs or you know, twelve Days of Christmas or anything like that.

Is there something modern that grasps you in regards to the legends and law, or have we kind of gone beyond that because society has become way more politically correct.

I mean, there's just like so many I feel like there's so much pressure.

Like I gifts are one of my love languages.

Like I love giving a gift.

I don't always love receiving gifts, but I love giving a gift.

I love curating something for someone or seeing something for someone.

But even for somebody who loves giving gifts, there's this insane pressure to like include everyone and spend all of this money and kind of you know, and I'm not gonna homemake gifts.

I mean, I'm sorry, I'm just not.

That's just not who I am.

Respect to those who can, that is not me.

So there's this kind of, you know, that pressure.

So I feel like sometimes we move away from those things.

But one of the things that I just the other day, it was just the most beautiful.

It was on the solstice, and it was just the most beautiful afternoon evening.

We started at three, we ended at five as the sun was going down, and I did this event at this lovely little bookstore called the Vintage Storyteller, which is in Minnesota, and we got all of these greens together and we made these beautiful just swags for people to put on their doors, sort of like a Yule blessing with beautiful ribbons.

And then I sat there and kind of told everyone about the different you know, the magic in the medicine of the plants.

And it was uch a great crowd.

I mean there was I think eleven there's twelve twelve women together in this room, including me and the shop owner, and it was just this It was just this really really magical experience where everyone was having so much fun.

But it was also just this really simple activity and it wasn't very expensive, and it was just this.

And so for me, the you know, I do a lot of like modern I'm more of like a modern ritual person, so Solstice it's really important for me to carve I almost said names, carved things into candles and burn do things that are sort of like symbolic like that, and just to be in a group of people who are kind of like minded.

And no one was declaring, like this is our ritual, We're going to chant.

It wasn't that.

It was just this very natural sort of magical experience that came came about organically.

So for me, like the the modern things I like and the appreciation that I have for like even just on social media, like just being able to connect with bookstore owners and witches, you know, which is from Cornwall and to kind of have that that level of connection.

That that's where I like, That's where I like social media.

But I do think there's a lot of you know, we just put a lot of pressure on ourselves this time of year, and we strain ourselves and we spend all our money and then we don't have any money to go on trips to Vegas in May.

Yes, we will need to start saving everybody for a trip to Vegasy.

People know this, I think they do.

Right Vegas and May May twenty first to twenty fifth, what hotel we're staying at yet, I haven't decided.

All we know is that Merle will not be choosing this year's hotel.

Trust.

I thought, I think I'm going to weigh in here.

Yeah, go ahead, I'm gonna look at the pictures online of what the bathrooms look like, and that's how I'll decide.

Well, yeah, yeah, it always comes down to the bathroom how much counter space do you have?

It's not that it's like is the shower gross?

I like a good shower.

I say, who doesn't like a good shower?

Right?

Who doesn't like a good shower?

We'll decide that uh in may probably probably within the next four to three to four weeks.

And knowing Nicole sackets because I think she's coming to knowing her, she'll probably kick my button say get this in high gear.

I need to make it happen now.

And usually when she gives me.

That, Stirn said the flamingo actually heard the Flamingo's great.

It's like super retro.

I've never stayed there though.

Yeah, we'll figure it out.

I've got a couple places that I want to look at.

And of course everybody is invited.

Everyone's invited.

You know, you don't need an invite, you just show up, come hang out.

Yeah, that's what we do.

So can we can we end with a witch?

I would love to.

We got four and a half minutes with you.

Yeah, I saw that.

I saw it.

Okay, So this which I think someone even mentioned Bifana in the chat, and Bifana is just this amazing Italian witch.

Her day is January sixth, which is ties in with the Beast of the Epiphany.

Don't ask me to explain too much more about that, because you know, I just happen to know that that's the date.

I don't know all the rules.

Okay, So but she again with some of the ideas that we half about Santa Claus.

She rides on her broom from roof to roof, and she leaves like candy and sweets for good little children, and for those who have been naughty, she leaves like rocks or nothing.

And she kind of goes from house to house, sweeping away the bad luck from the previous year and bringing in the good luck for the new year.

And I'll tell you a story I was in.

I was in Venice, Italy, on Christmas Day, and I want to say it was like two thousand and three, and I'd never heard of I'd never heard of Bafana, and I was just wandering around the streets.

You know, Venice such a beautiful place to wander.

And I had this great book that was all about all of the haunted places in Venice, and it was really thick, and every around every corner there was some place where the water cured the plague or something.

It was like really incredible.

Well, but anyway, I kept seeing, you know, after Christmas time, I kept seeing in all the all the bakeries like witch cookies, like why why are there witch cookies everywhere?

And little witch things and like cakes with witches on them.

And so I stopped someone and I said, what, why are there witches in all of the wind you know, in all the bakeries and all the decorations of the witches everywhere.

I was like so excited, and somebody just explained to me all this Bafana and this is what Bafana does.

And it was like I wasn't something.

I The internet existed then, but I didn't use it when you did go to internet cafe when you were traveling or whatever and have a phone.

So it was really great.

And then you know, when I got back, I looked it up and I got actually super mad at all the all my Italian friends for never telling me about Theafana.

Anyway, Biffana is fabulous and there are so many elements of her and her attributes that are also in the so the like cond of what we think of with Santa Claus and the things that he can and can't do.

And again we have that naughty nice list.

We have the lumps of coal and the candy.

And also in Germany and as well as I think in France, children leave their shoes out.

They don't hang stockings, they leave their shoes out and little treats get put in their shoes.

And in France it's Pierre Noel who leaves the treats and such.

So therey have it.

That is amazing Christmas creatures.

And with about twenty twenty five edition.

I love it.

And with about ninety seconds to go before we have to say goodbye to you until twenty twenty six, where you and I get to hang out twice twice.

First time at the Nebraska Bigfoot Conference in April.

That's gonna be crazy fun.

And then a month later in Las Vegas for our Sor Fan party where everyone's invited.

Everyone's invited.

You don't need to buy a ticket nothing.

Okay, well you need to get your ticket to get there.

But I want to say a big thank you, not only for you know twenty twenty five being a hard year for you with your health and defeating cancer.

I'm very proud of you for everything that you've accomplished.

I love you as one of my very very good friends, and I wish you so much success for twenty twenty six.

Well, thank you, Dave, and right back at you.

You've been such a wonderful support, you know, texting me making sure I'm okay, telling me not to worry throughout all my trials and tribulations.

And yeah, thank you, Happy holidays, Thanks for all your support, love all your fans, everyone in the chat, all the people that I met at the FAM party a couple of years ago.

Can't wait to see you all again.

And yay, twenty twenty six is almost here and we will possibly get.

Worse and you will be part of the monthly edition of our special Guests each and every month, and I love you for it.

I'll be back on now that I have my stamina back exactly.

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Swamp Dweller coming on up then, Robin Haynes with the Cryptid Q and A.

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Thank you, Varle, Thank you Dave.

I'll talk to you soon, I'm sure, absolutely for all the things.

Absolutely, I'll figure something out on Vegas here quickly.

Oh I'm not.

I mean, I'm not frussuring you.

No problem.

Got to get it done anyways because we're going so yeah.

Absolutely, I gotta run much love, I love you.

Good night bar Laventure.

Everybody, isn't she just awesome?

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Bombshell, bomber, Merry Christmas to you.

Mm hmm.

Let's bring in a Haynes because we love her.

Hi, Hi, Robin, how are you?

And your hair looks wonderful tonight?

Thank you, You're welcome.

You're so sweet.

How are you doing tonight?

I am good, I am good.

Are you ready for the big Santa Claus?

Oh yes, oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yes, I am so pumped up.

All right.

By the way, if you stick around after the show, I'm going to disappear for a couple of minutes because I got some rapping to do, so I figured I might as well just do it on my desk here.

So if you guys want to stick around after the show and hang out, watch me rap presence.

You're more than welcome to do that.

Yeah, I'm not tired at all, not tired at all, so.

I would say had your energy.

Oh God, today's a rarity.

Today is a rarities because I'm off the next couple of days.

All right, here we go, Swamp Dweller's only a couple minutes.

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Thank you very much for joining us as we prepare for Santa to take off and fly around the world.

Oh I'm so excited.

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Hello, and welcome to spaced Out Radio Swamp.

I'm swamp dweller, and tonight I'm going to take you on a mystic journey of the unknown, sharing tales of monsters, legends, and nightmapes.

Welcome to the spaced Out Radio Swamp.

This happens when I was a small child, probably around four, after I experienced what I know now was a near death experience.

I was with my grandmother, who was very healthy still is very healthy for a seventy year old woman.

We went shrekking across our property with a picnic basket and tow just looking to sit down with our dog and have a nice time, normal grandparents' stuff.

We ended up crossing the creek it was dry at the time, to go back to the pasture.

Nearby, probably maybe fifty yards away, was our cedar tree.

We sat down and started eating when our dogs started acting crazy.

This dog, bless her soul, was an angel.

It did not act like a dog most of the time, though she rarely ever barked, never really jumped, and always acted very polite.

She went nuts, running in circles around us, growling and barking and just acting so vicious something so oh, what a character for this dog.

My grandmother got concerned, so she put our picnic stuff back in the basket and tried to calmer down.

I was sitting a.

Few feet away, scared because my dog was growling and acting very out of character.

I will admit my memory gets a bit fuzzy around this point, but I remember seeing a very large gray creature step out of the creek in tree line.

We had previously just walked through that area, which is why I remember it being so creepy.

My grandmother scooped me up and booked it out of there as fast as possible.

Our dog was running with us.

I am ninety percent sure she ran to the cedar tree.

She always talks about it being her favorite tree and how protective it is.

The tree was a lot closer than her house, which was roughly a half mile away at this point.

I just know our dog calmed down and I was happier once we got to that tree.

I don't live in the Southwest.

I live in the south central slash East area of Arkansas, close to Louisiana, so I have no idea what this thing could be.

Some people say skim walkers, but like I said, I don't live in the southwest.

Some people say when to go, but I don't live up north, so I'm not exactly sure what this is.

But if anybody knows, and you can comment down below, please let me know.

Thank you swamp Dweller for another creepy story.

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From the swamp, we head to the forests where Robin Haynes lurks around looking for the Sasquatch, the dog man, the little people, and every wind to go in Rugaroo in between.

Here she is.

Love softs, bigfoot, whisper, psychic, talks to Saskatch every day, only stays down radios tryptic Cuban days.

Robin Haynes, It's always a pleasure to have you on the show.

And Merry Christmas to you, my beautiful friend.

Oh Merry Christmas.

I love being here.

You know what's exciting about the Christmas holidays and New Year's and.

Everything everything about it.

Yes, but once it's done, it means I'm only four months away from the Nebraska Bigfoot Conference.

I know, I can't wait.

I'm already working at it and getting stuff organized for it.

So I'm really excited.

You're gonna hate me for saying this.

You really what I know?

At the Nebraska big Foot Conference, you guys only allow guests to speak two years in a row.

But because for some reason the people there like me, you've made an exception and are bringing me back for a third year.

Yes, I'm going to put it on the table right now, right now, I'm going to kick butt so hard there this year or next year that you're going to be forced to invite me back for a fourth year.

You're going to hate nothing else.

If nothing else will skip a year, then bring you back, because you're definitely coming back again.

Well, I'm just saying, I'm just saying, there is a good possibility that you're not going to have a jual.

Love having you there and everybody.

You're such a showman.

For anybody that has not seen Dave speak publicly, you are missing out, seriously missing out, because he is such a showman and everybody absolutely adores him, and there is nobody that is as easy to get along with then Dave at a conference.

I mean the first year he was there, he got stuck on this twenty four hour flight from hell to get him from Canada to Nebraska.

And that man was so kind and wonderful, like it was incredible.

Never was grumpy, never was nasty, just was as kind and sweet as he's the best, like he is.

Just of all the people I've had, you are definitely one of the top ones because you are just always so easy to get along with and everybody loves you.

Oh it's because I pay them.

It's because I pay them.

Hey, I don't care, I'll just I'll take it.

And you know what, we have these great sheets at the end of the conference where everybody can write down comments on who they liked, what they liked best about it.

And every year you have scored within the first I want to say, within the top one to two if that third spot.

Every year you get nothing but.

Rave reviews though, and I appreciate there's.

Just nothing unpleasant about it when you're there, like you're just we have so much fun with you.

Well, we're gonna have some fun this year, and I cannot wait to put together something on Flight twenty one for you guys.

I know that's everybody's excited about.

You know, they really like the saga that goes on with that.

It's going to be great.

I promise you it's going to be great.

And I cannot wait to get there.

I cannot wait to see Darryl Denton again.

I know, I'm so excited.

Daryl's going to be there.

He's bringing his wife Rosie, which I absolutely adore her, and Darryl's always to treat every time mm hmm.

I know.

And Varla's venture is going to be there, and it's.

Going to be excited about.

Yeah, I mean talk meeting her in person.

I've talked to her, but meeting her in person is going to be fabulous.

I'm excited about that.

Coonball's going to come back.

We've got him, Christy sci Fi and her dad.

We've got to hurt him.

But we have a whole list coming up, so we've got some really really top notch people.

I think everybody's going to be really pleased.

Well, christ Chastine's going to be there, and he's got some great interaction, some great stories for everybody.

He's got some really good dog man pictures.

Oh my gosh, I can't wait.

I cannot wait to.

Get I know, I'm excited.

We have such a good time.

Yes, like we do.

I mean, hotels are already booked, everything's getting set up and moving right along.

It's going to be awesome.

Mm hmm, it's going to be amazing.

Yes, Christmas time is here, and of course you know we we have, you know, forty five minutes to talk about monsters and everything with you.

Okay, as silly as.

This question may be, all right, and I'm sure you're going to give me a really woo filled answer with this.

But do the cryptids know not just sasquats, but the little people, the gnomes, you know, the fairies, the sprites, the dogmen.

Do they know when there is some sort of mule tide Christmas time going on.

To a different degree than what we do.

They don't really understand.

Oh, it's Christmas and we're celebrating the birth of Christ, even though it's not actually the day he was born, which was in the fall.

But what they do know is the joy.

They know the uplift and the frequency that everybody has.

They pick up on the excitement.

They may not know and understand completely as we do.

Some of them do.

Some that are very humanized are type of humans and are around them enough where they've had it explained to them, they will get excited.

I will say that my Michigan group, every time it was Christmas, Thanksgiving, Easter, anything like that, I would make two meals.

I would make the full meal for the family and I would also make the full meal for them.

So whatever I made in the house is what I've also made again for them out there.

So they would have this big, huge meal out there, and they loved it.

They absolutely went crazy over They thought it was so much fun.

This year, we have certain sasquatch that we work with that have gotten Christmas gifts of food.

They love it.

They have the best time with this.

So they don't fully comprehend it as far as how we celebrate it and the meaning that it has to us.

They pick up on the joy and the excitement that comes with it that they do pick up on because it's to hire frequency and they do get very excited about that.

That is very very cool.

Yeah, very cool.

Yeah.

I used to go out, Like I said, I would make the ones here in South Carolina, they I could make every meal known de mand kind and take it out.

They aren't going to touch it, but if they think they can sneak something, then they're happy.

They're happy that way.

They don't have a problem getting into the house and getting into the pantry or getting into the fridge.

But take food out to them and it will sit there.

If I just leave it on my porch, it's gone by morning.

Or if they have ones that are sick and they need like ground ginger, they need ground turmac or whatever drameric, then they'll tell me what they want.

They'll take that if it's in the right container.

So they're, you know, the ones here a little bit different.

The Michigan ones.

They didn't care what I gave them.

I wouldn't even have a chance to get back up to the house and they'd already have gotten hold of it.

So it just depends on the group.

Interesting, I did not know that.

Yeah, if the leader of the klan doesn't allow them to take stuff, then they don't.

You have to also understand that you're talking about hundreds and thousands of years or breeding into these guys.

It says everything that they do concerning us as a trap.

So it takes some.

Like the ones in Michigan, they started taking stuff right away from me, the ones that I was in with the prior to that particular group, it took them longer, and then I had some.

When I moved from that location in Michigan to another one, they really didn't want to take anything at all.

The ones here they want it, they'll ask for it, but they're very cautious about taking it.

But yet if I leave and come back, I'll find muddy footprints in the house, things out of my pantry.

And you don't even want to know how much parmer on cheese has been taken.

Like it's insane.

I don't even understand it.

I can buy as many of the biggest sized parmesan cheese containers known to mankind and everyone will be gone.

It's literally a matter of a day or two and they just disappear.

Things disappear from my refrigerator all the time.

How do they speak into your house, Well.

They can do it two ways.

I mean, it's not that they can't come and get in physically, but they can go because they are multi dimensional, they can go into spirit form, and it's very disconcerting to watch them walk through a wall.

I've seen them do it before.

I've had witnesses with me.

Then I've seen them do it, and it's a little bit freaky.

But yeah.

In fact, my granddaughter one night or one day, she was here and she was in the kitchen and she asked me, she said, you know, grandma, did anybody come in the house?

And I said, no, why?

And I had went into town.

Her dad was upstairs, and I had went to town to get something.

And she called me on my cellphone.

She said, did you just come back to the house.

And I said no, why?

And she said there was somebody in the living room.

I said, what are you talking about?

She said, it was all black.

I couldn't see its face.

It was just this.

It looked like a person, but it was all black.

And I said, did it have clothes on it?

She said, I don't remember seeing clothes.

All I just saw was this big black shape and it looked over at me and then it ran out the front door.

Okay, I never locked my doors.

I never have.

I have fourteen dogs.

If anybody is dumb enough to try to come into this house with fourteen dogs, then they deserve anything that they rob.

If they can get in and get out alive, then more power to them.

So I just never locked the door.

But they wouldn't matter anyway.

I mean they used telekinesis, they can unlock anything.

They used to unlock the cars all the time, and they are multi dimensional, so they'll just walk right through a wall.

We're going to change it up a little bit here, Robin.

Okay, we're going to into your intuitive side here.

People wants to know any twenty twenty six predictions.

Yeah, good, paranormal UFO world.

There is going to be a lot of changes.

I think people are going to be very, very surprised, and I would say twenty six twenty seven, I think you're going to notice a much more active UFO community, a lot more disclosures with the UFOs we already have right now just in an abnormal amount of Oh's in the sky.

And that's a good thing because they are here to help.

There are good and bad.

Just because they are an alien does not mean they are bad.

They're actually more good than bad.

We are going to see an onset of more I think technology over the next two years.

I don't want to limit it at one because I see a lot going in the year following, but there is going to be a lot more activity that that way.

I think you're going to see a lot more cryptid activity as well.

We are in the middle of this giant shift with frequency and energy, and the higher the frequency and energy goes, the more contact we're going to see.

Like with my clients, you know, I teach that energy and the frequency, and I have got almost all of them now are getting ongoing contact, whether it's from elementals, dimensional sasquatch, dog men, ets, or whatever.

As that frequency shift gets higher, we get more contact because we're able to lock in with them through the consciousness.

And so I think we're in to see a lot more of that.

I don't think it's going to be too overwhelming.

It'll be a slow incline, but I think we are going to see a lot more activity in the paranormal realm for sure.

I would say within the next twenty four months, but it will be starting within the next year.

I would say probably within the next four to six months.

You're going to start seeing upswing.

I want to ask you about that okay, because you know, there is a lot of there's a lot more Once again, we're in this trend where there's a lot more people getting into it again.

You know, when paranormal television and then cryptid television kind of hit the major screen on cable and it was extremely highly successful, we saw a giant influx of people all of a sudden becoming paranormal researchers or cryptid investigators and UFO skywatchers as well.

Okay, then it kind of lulled down for a while, and not so much in the paranormal, but especially in the cryptid and UFO world, we've seen those numbers go up again, mainly UFOs because well, let's face it, UFOs or are the you know, the gold stamp and the gold star of what we do right now due to the governmental scrutiny of it here and everything, but a lot more people are starting to take notice and take time in the forests.

So my question for you regarding this would be are people seeing it the creatures more or are the creatures allowing more people to see them.

They are allowing it more.

Starting out with the cryptids, there seems to be a pattern of about once every I want to say generally the third year, but anywhere from two to four years, they make another attempt at getting people to awaken, to get them to understand that they're present, that they are not monsters, but they share this planet with us.

And then our people generally in the past have behaved very badly, and then they go.

The cryptids go back in the woods and they're like, okay, they're not ready.

What we are noticing now again, that frequency shift is so vital.

It will be three years March fourteenth since it started, and as everybody's frequency is going up, they are getting triggered.

As that frequency goes up, it puts you into a paranormal spectrum where you're able to see more, deal with more, accept more, and learn more, and be more open minded about all of these things.

So as that frequency is going up, whether people like it or not, you're going from carbon based to crystalline.

Your body's changing, You're opening up more, which gives you the opportunity should you follow through with it, of accepting the things that are out there in that paranormal spectrum.

And that's why they are coming out again.

They they want people to be aware of them to a degree.

Okay, they don't want to come and sit down and have dinner with you.

They want people to quit trying to kill them because they don't understand what they are.

They want people to use their collective consciousness to better everybody for the greater good.

And in order to do that, you go into that higher frequency once in Nile higher frequency.

You now have contact with them because we all work for the collective.

This is why they succeed and our people fail.

We have a lot of people that are out for themselves that's not working for the greater good, that's not working with the collective.

You achieve that through the collective consciousness which links in with them.

It's really an amazing thing.

It's like with the ets.

The reason that their ships go is because they use their collective consciousness to power the ships, to guide the ships where they want them to go.

So when you link into all of these things, you get more contact.

Right now, we are on an upsweep where due to the frequency changes, people are more aware.

As they become more aware, they're linked into the consciousness and the frequency is higher and it's just part of the cycle.

So I think we're going to see a lot more of it until unless our people prove that once again that they're not trustworthy, and then they will go back into the darkness again.

We're still going to have pockets of certain ones that want to be left alone because they aren't going to ever trust us, and they have good reason that too.

They'll stay up high in the mountains that each is like that will stay underground, you know.

But more and more they are coming out, and they do seem to have a pattern for anywhere from two to four years.

Generally around that third year they make an attempt to try to share a planet with us, and so far we have been unsuccessful and working through the consciousness with them so they don't give up, and they're on the upsweek of trying that again.

I'll be surprised if it happens, you know.

Yeah, you know, I'm amazed that so many people right now are getting linked in with them.

It's tremendous, like I as far as like business wise, it's booming because people actually have opened their minds enough for this and they're all getting contact.

It's just it's a beautiful thing, it really is.

Well, you know what, as long as people don't investigate my area, I'm good.

With that, go find your own areas there.

There's enough land to go around, there's enough forest to go around.

But you know, they don't even have to have an area because these things, now things, these cryptids, you don't have to have an area.

Hold hold that up.

We're gonna go to break here, Robin Haynes.

We have R till the top of the hour, other Cryptid, Q and A.

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Mm hmmm, I'm back.

Yeah, okay, I'm back.

I'm back, Robin.

Yeah, it's it's amazing and you don't have to be in the woods to get contact.

Well, hold that thought until we come back.

Yeah, I want to radio audience.

So is your son excited for the holiday?

Oh?

Yeah, yeah, that's the best part.

Yeah, I'm looking forward to it.

Like I said, I got to smuggle a bunch of stuff down here.

I'm going to wrap some presents down here today, edit the show and then grab some presents.

And that's great.

Yeah.

It's something about the Norad Sanda tracker that just gets me.

All.

Isn't that fun?

I can hear that with my kids and my grandkids.

I loved it.

Ye so much fun.

Yep, mhm, get everything ready here, mm hmm, there we go, there we go.

Yeah, the t bone they only had the third jersey.

They were out of the out of the original blue, the whites and blues for the so I got them the black back one, the black third jersey.

So it's all good, Yep.

All of a sudden, Robin, you're going to be sheepish and you're gonna say, Dave, I know we have this rule and I'm gonna have to bring it.

I'm gonna have to bring you back this year.

It was unanimous though, because right after the conference last year, I was talking to Harriet mcpheey, you know that owns it, and we were talking and she was like, I said, yeah, I want to get this person back in that person back and she's like, we got to bring Dave back.

Like, I know, we don't do it a third year, but you know we once in a while we will.

And she said I want to hear him talk, and she was sick lass years, so she wasn't able to do that.

Harriet's such a sweetheart, isn't she a doll?

I just love her just love her.

She is just the most precious thing, bliss or her kindest woman ever.

M she just is an absolute doll.

But it is it's such a fun conference and we just get we're so blessed because every year, you know, we have an idea who we want to bring in, but then we get contacted by all kinds of people and they're like, hey, we're volunteering, you know, we'll come, we'll come, and I just I can't get that many.

You know, there's always so many I can get.

We max out between nine and ten, because if not, it just makes the day too long, and then nobody has time to talk.

And we've got nine people.

Now.

I have one spot left, but I hesitant to use it because we want to do that roundtable like we did last year because that was so much fun.

So yeah, we've got some great people.

I'm really excited about it.

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Here we go Robin Haynes, the Cryptid Q and A continuing on and you were talking about, you know, predictions and weird things that may happen.

In twenty twenty six, we were talking about sasquatch and other cryptids becoming a little bit more open towards the public, and you wanted to finish that thought.

Yeah, you know, everybody thinks that they've got to have a certain spot out in the woods or they're not going to get any contact.

And you know you can get contact out in the woods, of course you can.

But when your frequency is high up and you start the mind speak, you would be amazed because you can mine speak with them from your living room.

When you are mind speaking, there is no space between you because you are going through the collective consciousness, so you can literally carry on an entire I don't care if you're middle of downtown LA.

If you are mind speaking with them, it does not matter the distance.

I still mind speak with the ones in Siberia that I met when I was there for the conference back in two thousand.

It was either eleven or twelve, so it does not matter that distance once you get connected through the collective consciousness.

You know, we go out in the woods to see if we see them when we look at structures.

We don't want to crowd them in the woods.

You don't want to run them down.

That's going to run them away from you, not towards.

You go out there, pick a spot, let them come to you.

Have a higher frequency.

Laugh, you know, have a bonfire, sing, talk to them, play music, whatever.

If they're out there, they're going to come to you first because your frequency is up.

But don't ever think that you can't have contact just because you may not live close to a wood wooded area, because you still can you in contact with anything.

The ets, the elementals, dimensionals, and for whatever reason, right now those elementals and dimensionals and the little people are running rampant.

They are everywhere right now.

Then why use that?

You know, it's just the whole frequency thing.

They all band together to begin with.

But higher frequency beings hang around each other.

The higher the frequency, the better they are.

They don't want to be around anything low.

Like if you're a person and you're very depressed or very angry, or you're not a nicer kind person, then you're a lower frequency, and good luck having contact because they don't like it.

I have one that will tell me that it gives them a headache and it makes them sick, sick to his stomach.

If he's around anybody with a low frequency, he absolutely does not like them.

He says they're oakham meaning bad.

You know, I've got some in my backyard that will tell me the same thing.

They don't like anybody low frequency says it gives them a headache.

So if you have that higher frequency, because you are more upbeat and your frequency is up, you're going to get contact, whether you want.

It or not.

You're going to get it from all of them.

Very true, Very true.

Let's get to a couple of questions from our audience.

Sure for you, let's go to speaking of frequency, Let's go to blue cruise.

If an individual humans frequency stays the same or goes lower, will that individual be stuck in a denser or more negative version Planet Earth?

Yes?

And no.

First off, everybody has like a basic basis for your frequency.

Okay, it is perfectly normal for people to have bad days.

It is perfectly normal for people to get depressed at times, or be upset or maybe they got hurt in some way, you know, whether they've lost somebody they care about or whatever is the reason.

That is a normal human emotion, but we don't stay that way.

You have a basic across the border where your frequency is at, depending if you're a good or a bad person.

On days that you're very happy, excited, love being the highest frequency there is, which comes from your heart, your frequency is up even higher, so you may have more contact in that day, but your basis frequency kind of levels out and then every day you have your highs and lows.

You know, if you're on a day that you're just kind of hanging out, you're not upset or mad, You're going to stay right at that base point.

So it does affect it if it is lower and you but you're still a kind person.

You have a pure heart, meaning you don't want to hurt anybody.

You don't want to hurt an animal.

You only want good things for people.

There are things you can do to raise your frequency.

Okay, do anything that brings you joy.

Eat a cookie, you have a bowl of ice cream, watch a funny movie, pet your dog, pet your cat.

That will help raise it.

You know, Now, if if you want to do energy work and frequency work to really keep it up.

Then there's things you can do, but those are basic things just to improve it.

But it is perfectly normal for everybody's frequency to bounce depending on the mood that you have that day, depending on what you encounter that day.

But people with what the cryptids call a pure heart, meaning that you don't ever want to hurt anybody, You only want to help people.

You have that basis across the border there, and that's generally you know, in a good place.

And then depending on your mood as if it goes up and down.

Let's move over to another question.

Let us go next to tbou or parbing PARAMARV, who is asking, we've heard about sundsquatch using infrasound and making folks feel queasy or nauseous, But are they able to put misleading ideas in someone's head to deceive them or throw a human off their track.

Yes.

They There's certain people that have asked me, can they put an illness in you and make you sick?

No, they cannot put a disease in your body.

What they can do.

They build up their frequency if they feel threatened in any way, shape or form, then that's how they do the zapping.

They build up that frequency and they basically throw it just like you would a lightning bolt at somebody, and that's how you get zapped.

They're taking the frequency, which is the vibration and that infrasound, and they're throwing it at you.

They determine if you get a headache, if you get nauseous, if you wet your pants, or if you pass out.

They have control to do that.

They also have the ability to project emotion into you, which means they can cause you to be fearful.

They can make you think that you need to turn around and do something else.

I've had them that have wanted me out in their areas.

I'll be at home and all of a sudden, I'm like, oh my gosh, I've got to go to this area.

It's like my life depends on it.

I have to go that area.

And then I have to stop and think, Okay, who put it in my head, which is a form of mind speak, But why do they want me there?

So you have to make sure it's not a trap.

But yes, they can project into your mind a thought, of feeling, an emotion.

All of those things are forms of mind speak.

But when they project a feeling on you.

This is how a lot of the cryptids, as well as dimensionals and elementals, if you are getting too close to them or their children, you get that wall of fear.

That wall of fear is then projecting that emotion on you, so it makes you fearful, It makes you want to turn around and leave.

That way, they don't have an altercation with you, there's no problem.

It just makes you leave in a very passive way.

You may be frightened, but then there's no physical altercation between either one of you.

I will say this, you know, going back to flight twenty one.

Mm hm, I would know with subtle messages.

And this is going to sound real WU filled here for a second, but I think it's important for people to learn.

And this is a great question by PARAMARV and a great answer by you, Robin.

Okay, but I know in our times going out to flight twenty one, I would start getting not messages, but feelings a day or two before.

Now.

A lot of people will say that, a lot of people will say that's anxiousness because you're excited to get there.

It's an adventure, and people are always excited for an adventure, but it would be very subtle, just like it would almost be like, hey, can't wait to see you there, can't wait to get there, you know, just can't wait.

And then what the day of, probably a few hours before go time, it would be like, all right, are you ready for your adventure tonight?

And I would start seeing vivid pictures in my head of our base camp area right which would be awesome.

And then following that on the road in before we hit you know, just as we're hitting gravel and you know, we would usually call Robin at this time, but there is a there is a cattle guard.

We're literally at that cattle guard.

The cell phone signal ends, and from that cattle guard and the thirty miles now into the forest that we have to go.

It is, it is pretty amazing how they pick you up.

They pick us up right at the cattle guard say okay, guys, are you and it's it's a message like okay, are you ready?

Are you ready?

We're We're ready for you.

That's kind of the feeling it gets.

We're ready for you, and we're here, we're going to be watching.

And and once we get about three miles between two and four miles from the actual crash site, it starts really pulsating, like your head will all of a sudden go into almost like a mini migraine mode, where you're getting this pulsation and this pressure on the side of your head at the exact same time, and it's like, Okay, you're there.

I'm picking up your signal.

There is no words, there is no hey, we're waiting for you, nothing, It's just that pressure that they put out there because they know you're coming.

And then when we turn onto the road to get to the crash site, then all of a sudden it starts calming down, but then it picks up again, and the closer we get to the crash site, the more it dies off.

And then when we get to the crash site, we do our little circle, we get out of the vehicles.

Sometimes if there's been a lot of people snooping around there, they are on guard.

They are completely on guard.

And then we're like, hey, guys, it's just at this point, it's just Dave and Tim.

You know us.

You know we're not gonna go you know, mess things up.

You know we're not here to cause you any havoc.

It's just us and we calm them down.

We you know, we burn tobacco in order to give the peace offering, and then we go through our little spiel that we do and then you can literally feel the energy come right down.

It's pretty amazing how you can feel that.

Yeah, that everything that you get beforehand, and you and I have talked about this before, you're getting mind speak.

Yes, okay, everybody needs to realize that mind speak is not just words in your head.

It can be pictures, it can be images, it can be words spelled out, it can be a thought of feeling your emotion that is not your own, and it comes very subtly.

So everything that Dave's getting is mind speak.

That pressure that you get when you go in the gate is because you are being scanned, because they do get a lot of people that come in and out of there, and they're scanning you.

They're using their frequency, their energy to scan you to make sure you're intent is pure.

And basically you've got a lot of them that are in that area that almost as guards.

So when somebody comes in, they're going to make sure that it's safe.

That's why you get the highs and the lows where you get it for a while and then it lets up, and then it picks back up again.

You're getting scanned by the next set of centric guards and then it lets up again, so you're getting nothing but mind speak.

It's phenomenal also, And I'm not trying to change subject, but if Joe Monk is in the audience tonight, your group wants pears and another watermelon, because they're blowing my head up right.

Now, that's awesome.

So they didn't mean to change the subject, guys, but they're not going to leave me alone till I tell Joe pears and they didn't.

They want another watermelon if you have it, but they definitely want pears.

Did you say, did you say?

Beers and some watermelon, Jack Daniels.

They probably would like that too.

I'm telling you what.

They are terrible with alcohol.

Where I lived at in Michigan, in the town that I lived near, I was like a mile and a half away.

They had this family oriented little pub and there was alcohol there for the adults and they would go and get the booze bottles out of the the dumpsters.

I would get up in the morning and it looked like guns n' roses partied in my woods there and didn't I don't drink, and there was alcohol bottles everywhere where.

They would sit there with them.

I'd go out and clean them up, and the next day you'd see all these giant footprints and more booze bottles.

Room.

I hear that.

I hear that all too well.

We got six minutes to go here with Robin Haynes.

Tonight, let's go to Cosmic Joe here.

I like this question.

He says, there is a chicken, which is my neighbor's pet, who uses an interdimensional ability to fight a red tailed hawk successfully.

Have you met any farm animals who could use dimensional abilities?

Absolutely?

All animals are high frequency.

So as long as they are high frequency, they can tap into abilities.

I used to have a dog that would constantly.

A cat as well, would nest out of the portals.

They would vanish in those portals.

They'd be gone days at a time.

I'd see them going to them, and i'd see them come out of them.

So do I think it's possible.

Yeah.

All our bodies are our third dimensional, our soul, our consciousness, and everything else is a higher frequency and multi dimension, and it all goes back through the consciousness, and that frequency.

Everybody, whether it's an animal or a person, if your frequency is high enough, you have abilities that you can tap into.

Animals already have a high frequency.

They're already telepathic, so it would not surprise me at all.

Hmm.

I didn't know chickens could be interdimensional.

Well, if they want to go through a portal, they're high enough frequency, they could definitely do it.

The physical body, it's rough on.

But as far as their consciousness, their soul, all of that, yeah, they could probably do it.

I wouldn't.

I mean, I don't think they're going to do the same things that possibly a sasquatch would do.

But they are a high frequency all animals are.

They don't usually shape shift and do some of the things that cryptids do, but they're not without abilities.

I had no idea.

I had no idea.

Well, look at that chickens injured dimensional chickens.

I might have to make a T shirt for that.

Now, I'm going to write that down, interdimensional.

Chickens, him going in and out of portals.

I'm literally writing this down.

I might have to make a T shirt for our.

Store for that.

Yeah, their physical bodies are not interdimensional, but they go through the consciousness and so if they wanted to go into portals, they could absolutely a million percent do it.

That is absolutely wonderful.

I never thought I would hear about interdimensional chickens, but I mean that's.

I never did either of this.

Yeah, I guess that's what our show is for.

Yeah.

I mean, they're not gonna, you know, leve tate and do a lot of these things, but they are a higher a frequency where they could very easily go in out of the portals.

Like I said, my cats and dogs do it all the time.

They drive me crazy.

I love this comment by Julie in our chatroom Interdimensional Chicken task Force.

I am so creating that shirt.

I have ideas running through my mind right now, total ideas running through my mind.

Oh my gosh.

By tomorrow night, there will be an Interdimensional Chicken task Force T shirt on our store.

Yep, right, why not?

Why the heck do Robin?

We look back at twenty twenty five here, and yes, we'll have you on next week as well.

But I'm just curious your favorite with three minutes ago, your favorite story of cryptids in twenty twenty five.

I think just being out in the woods with them and when they're in a physical form, being able to talk to them, being able to see them, have them come up behind, you know, put a hand on my shoulder.

I had this past year.

I camped out for three weeks out on my farm and I was laying there watching something on my phone.

In one of the Sasquatch kids came walking in the camper and kind of looked at me, and I was like, your parents are not going to be happy.

And he turned around and he ran out.

So I think that was one of my top ones.

And I had a twelve foot mail that I was out on the damn and I was talking to him, and he came up and got about two foot for me, and he had a lot of power to him.

He never zapped me, but just the weight from that frequency that radiated off of him by me, it was like it felt like I had a concrete blocks all over my body, you know.

As soon as I asked him to pull it back, he did, which was tremendous and very much appreciated.

But just that interaction, his whole clan walked up towards me.

I mean, they were coming in from I was surrounded.

They are coming in from all different directions and it was just a really beautiful moment because they were all so kind and so sweet, just loved it, and we had the and the dog men were there too.

I mean I was in the camper one night and the dogmen were walking around the camper and they were just as kind as could be.

It's just a magical place.

I think that was probably my favorite.

And then, like I said, I went to another site and was out in the woods with another one and he was pretty special too.

So yea, just that ongoing contact, being able to be outside with them.

There's a lot of magical places out there, more than we possibly know.

Oh yeah, you know how hard is it to find these magical places?

If your frequency is up high, it is not hard because that frequency, when it's up and it comes from a pure heart, it draws them in like a flip and magnet.

They love it and it's not hard to get to them.

You just have to know how to do it, and you have to have a pure heart to do it, because they know your intent, energy and frequency does not lie.

It cannot be faked.

And so you can't go out there and pretend to be the good guy or girl and have an unpure heart because they know it right away and they're not coming anywhere near you.

But if you have a pure heart and a high frequency, it is so easy to make contact through the consciousness and it's really a beautiful thing.

Robin, we have twenty seconds left with you.

Tell everybody where they can find you.

You can find me at Robin Haynes no middle initial hay ne Es on Facebook or on my website at www dot Paranormal dash Empowerment dot com.

I love it, Robin.

I want to say a big thank you for you coming on Spaced Out Radio.

We have one more show in twenty twenty five with you.

That'll be next week.

Cannot wait.

It's going to be great because that'll be our final show of twenty twenty five before the New Year's break.

And you are so special to this show and I just want to say a big thank you for everything that you do.

I just love you, guys, and Dave.

I think you are probably one of the best people I know.

You have a good.

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