The sun is shining, the birds are singing.

September football is almost upon us.

Mike Bradys being defrosted as we speak.

This is the Code AFL show.

I'm Ed Burke.

I'm joined by Josh Barnes and Scott going the key players behind the herald Son Rich List.

How's it going Gooh.

Yeah, very good Edge.

What an intro.

You're not off Snoop already?

Yeah?

I thought i'd focus on Mike Brady.

You just keep it keeping positive early on.

We can bring change a toxic energy.

Later still got four weeks to run.

A lot of time for Snoop to get in trouble.

Yeah, it's gonna be a big final series.

We'll get into it with the first bounce.

There's a bit news out of Essendon last night out chief football writer Ja Clark reporting that Sam Draper is set to depart to either Brisbane or Adelaide as an unrestricted free agent.

Scott, You're going to be covering a bit of this Essendon stuff later today.

A few players maybe looking for the exit door.

What do you make of the situation?

Oh, well, I think the groundhog Day theme is what's disturbing me and others and Essenon fans.

I mean they pledge stability when David Barham came in in Brad Scott.

Brad Scott's just finished his third year in the job.

The issue they've got is if you're sitting down with your captain every off season try and sell to stay, that doesn't tell me you're in a good place.

So I think, I mean, Draper I can sort of deal with has been that Sargeant's been going on and on Ridley.

Jordan Ridley is the one that I'm very upset.

I mean that's he signed was it this year or last year?

Late last year?

Late last year?

And he's a key defender.

Yeah, of course his body's let him down.

So if his major beef is a medical, which he's got every right to be, that's just the Ridley one is what worries me the most about isn't.

So Esn'ton has shown faith in him with that long term deal, but he potentially is now frustrated that he hasn't been able to get those soft tissue problems right this year.

So where does that sit.

Do you think he's he's got every right to search for any home.

Yeah, I do.

I mean I think we're seeing with Charlie Kerno, who will talk about I mean, I think it's more and more of the players signing the long term deals.

But that doesn't mean I want to stay here long term.

That just means I'm helping the club out at that moment in time.

But I mean what Ridley has got a fair point.

I mean they've promised they were changing all the fitness.

It didn't work.

If the workplace you were in isn't the best, I can understand frustration and maybe going well, why don't I go find somewhere that looks after me better.

I don't mind it.

I mean, if I miss it, I'm very frustrated about it.

But they've got to have a better setup.

Yeah, I think it's a small things with Ethenon that just keep mucking up, that continues on.

Even the fact that Sam Draper is an unrestricted free agent, which was an own goal Bason, and they accidentally paid him the wrong amount of money so they can't match any deals, so he walks out for free and they don't have any power in the situation at all.

Those are small things.

The fact that they had to resurface Tellom in two years running and still plays getting injured all the time, like those small things just keep adding up.

And that's what doesn't happen at a good club.

It doesn't happen at the clubs that play finals all the time.

And when they keeps happening, half your list keeps getting injured.

Then suddenly players thinking what am I doing wasting my career here at Essen and we're not going to play finals for another few years.

They look further back than even when Brad Scott got there, despite them saying they had this long plan to rise up the ladder.

So I'd be considering my options if I was a play with any currency.

And as we know, rival clubs get a whiff of blood in the water there.

Suddenly they're on to Zach Marrett's manager.

They know what's going on and they can smell out an opportunity and easy sell.

So the next month will be very interesting.

One thing I just want to quickly touch on is the size of these offers to the free agents.

So Sam Draper, it's a reported eight hundred and fifty grand over five years is what Brisbane might have come to the table with.

We know that the AFL would like West Coast to receive Banjuan compensation from Oscar Allen.

It's possible that the money is around the same mark as what Draper has been offered, what jacksonl Varney might have been offered by Saint Kilda.

We have three free agency compensation picks in the top ten of this.

Draft, as how richly show, there's a lot of money going around in the AFL nowadays.

I think they get front loaded, don't they budge he as a bit of a payoff to the club, leading to me there's assistance in compensation.

It's mysterious front.

Loading of contracts to ensure that that means my compensation is going to be because the player leaving, they often feel a bit of guilt and go, well, I want to make sure my club's getting something when I'm fling the door.

But I mean Draper, they're not worth top ten.

Is that what you said potentially could happen?

Well give if the offer is of similar size to Oscar Allen's.

Is it difficult for the AFL and then turn around and say we can't give you man one compensation for Draper, but we are giving it to West Coast for Rosk Grollen.

They have an.

Ability to be inconsistent in their rulings.

Well, that would require Brisbane to front loaded again.

They'd have to go up another level to make sure.

Surely a mill's first round, I would think, So eight hundred and fifties back to pick.

A, did you mention the rich list before eight to fifty is about fiftieth on the list at the moment, So that's surely not worth two or whatever.

For it is that the shifting nature of money in the game means that's going backwards, I would think in terms of top end compensations.

Because we'll see.

See what the AFL's sacred spreadsheet spits out do the compensation picks in October.

We'll quickly move on to the finals previews on Thursday nights, the Pie is headed back to the Adelaide Oval to meet the Crows and Josh, you're at Olympic Park this morning.

When do you see that?

Yeah, braved a little bit of a spitting rain at Olympic Park this morning.

It was a bit actually going on, so a bo McCree ran to the other side of the ground to do it.

A bit of a we can't really do anything secret at column, but it was a bit of a secret fitness test.

I charged over there and got real close.

He was told to push through on that sore foot he has, and he did a few sprints.

Obviously he cleared it.

He high fired his support staff and went into main training.

So he will play on Thursday night.

Will Parker will play at half back, replacing Jeremy Howe.

They'll go a bit smaller down there and back themselves in to match Adela's tall forwards.

And the question really is Dan nex Day.

Craig McCrae was a long long way from glowing in his endorsement of Damn Next Day.

When asked about him after training, it was very negative for the bodylane, which was all off Scotty anything.

Seems like it is between mcday and Mason Cox right now for that last spot.

And I asked him about whether the defense saves Mxday and he said it's a very small part of the I guess discussion around him.

So right now he's leaning towards Mason Cox.

Mix would be my guess.

I think they should have done it earlier to getting back into the CYST.

I mean it's an X factor move.

He I know, Mason's a year old and he's played less footy the last couple of years, but he has performed on big stages.

He's he's got that mentality.

That's a big call from fly.

He doesn't like sort of rocking the boat, does he?

Yeah, well, he let's go John Noble before the Premiership Finals series, which I guess shocked everybody that week and he didn't play again and left the club not long after.

But he's not afraid to on the Ever Finals pull that trigger.

I guess.

I agree.

I think Mason Cox is probably the right move.

Mix Day's not really giving you much, so at least you have that reliability of Mason Cox is generally going to bring it to ground.

That's that's a plus.

So the Crows have ruled out Josh Rochelley with that left knee and he could be even touch and go for the second week of the finals.

He might not be able to get out there until are prelium, but we'll see how that unfolds.

They do still have the three headed monster up forward though, and the Piers have only got Darcy Moore and Billy Frampton as the tools to tackle them.

So who takes on a Taylor Walker or Darcy Foggedy On Thursday.

Yeah, quite clearly, Frampton, he's going to be starting on Philthorpe.

I think that's the obvious match up there, and then I guess the other two seem to work themselves out.

I assume Maynard is going to have to play quite a fair bit tom on Foggy.

I think that's probably the natural matchup out of those groups.

And then he just hope that Darcy Moore can play on neither and be the third man over the top.

Well, yeah, I think Foggedy Maynard makes sense.

I mean, Foggy plays like a key forward, but he's may and I could mention him in the air.

So I don't think that's the end of the world for the boss.

Let's have the tips for crow Vesus Piles, who's off to a home prillim.

I'm sitting on the fence.

It's really hard, I think ulti adelaide.

But yeah, I think the ranking thing's huge.

I think it'll rattle them.

He's clearly therex fect again, but he's the capital X factor.

He's the one who links it all together.

Without him, they can look a bit boring, I think, and I reckon I'll overthink it.

The crowd will overheat it.

And Colie will start well and win.

More confident in Collingwood, I think, compared to a team that hasn't played a final for eight years and needs to adjust to that.

So I think I'm leaning with do.

You think we saw a bit of meditation from Gold crast?

I mean, maybe we'll see that just to win.

And you're all over the Orange versus Yellow Battle one Saturday afternoon GWS and Hawthorne.

It's all about the players returning from injury in this one at Anjie Stadium.

The Hawks have never won there as well, which is another thing to add to the narrative.

I think they've had eight appearances there and haven't managed to clinch the four points.

But Josh Weddle is someone who they potentially get back with.

Spoken to the players in the last couple of days.

They're fairly optimistic that will player Sam Mitchell was a bit more guarded last night and AFL three sixty talking about him, but he looks like someone who can come back into their back line and have an impact in the first week.

You follow the Hawks pretty closely, would you what would you do if you're Sam Mitchell?

Do you bring him into a sub?

Do you bring him straight making it half back.

Do you try and throw him in the midfield even I.

Think he's so influential that he comes back into the back seven.

It's just too they squeeze out.

Whether it's Aimon goes up onto a wing he's been brilliant half back this season, or does Hardwick go forward.

There's a few things that they can pull to open up a space in that back seven to get him in.

But I think he does come into the twenty two of your players.

You're not playing a reserves warm up game and not playing the next week.

Yeah, it gets through that he's got to play.

Yeah, it's an interesting rest and there's some risks on the Giant side of things.

Changed, so there's about five it could come back, So Jesse Hogan.

Toby Green has told our Lachlan McCurdy this morning in Sydney that Jesse Hogan will play, so the Giants will regain him.

A question Toby will make the call.

Josh Kelly, Jake Stringer, Brent Daniels bringing Hogan, Stringer and Daniels all into the forward line at once.

For a final.

All brilliant players, but in terms of the chemistry, the cohesion does that work when you bring that many players back for a big game.

Oh, look, it's it's all chipsy in, isn't it.

It's a It is a real I mean, if Hogan's fit, you've got to play him.

Jake the snake string, I mean, interesting on there for this moment, that's what he's there.

Yeah, I know Brent Daniels, hasn't.

I haven't seen him all year, have we hardly barely?

Yeah, he's been out a couple of times.

I think two or three of the two our the three maybe maybe three is a bit rich.

Daniels was very impressive in the NFL last week coming through the midfield that you can pinch it in the middle.

He can play them all.

I think I think he's a chance.

I'm leaning towards the Giants for this one.

I think last year's final series really stings them, the straight sets, that they are really unhappy with how that unfolded.

I think they've matured a little bit over the course of the year, and I think they've got a little bit of an edge over the Hawks.

Yeah.

I think it's an interesting game in the fact that I think the Giants their ceiling is as good as anybody but their floor is probably as low as anybody as well.

They can play some really bad footy and Hawthorne is just about as even as any team.

I think they're almost the most reliable.

So I'm tipping the Hawks for me.

I think over four quarters will probably just hold off every now and then.

They's sun army.

Yeah.

I like Hawthorne.

I think they're smoky.

I mean the loss against Brisbane I can deal with, but before that I think they were building momentum.

I don't like that record about playing.

Up in Sydney to win sometime.

Yeah, exactly, so let's go with that.

It hasn't particularly been a fortress for the Giants.

Anti stadium better on the road.

But yeah, it's something that Hawthorne has struggled with.

Geelong Brisbane a rematch of last year's preliminary final.

It's going to be exciting on the MCG on Friday night.

Josh, what have you made the lead up from the Cats and the lines.

Yeah, it's going to be huge.

We're going to answer a few questions.

Firstly, Scotty, what a use reckon?

You've watched a lot of footy.

Does it matter if you don't play anybody good?

In the past six weeks.

I've only seen it once in the last I think fifteen years as a team played exclusively bottom six sides leading into finals.

That was Brisbane tween twenty one.

They went out in straight sets.

Look, I think you can manipulate it.

I think I'd rather be doing this than like we just mentioned the gws, should we bring you back five injured blokes so they're fit, they're healthy, they're running on top of the ground for one.

Of a cliche.

I'm not as concerned as I would have been in the past.

I think Geo Long are aware of it, they would have thought about it.

I'm backing them to figure this out.

They pretty experienced group.

I think they'll be okay.

Yeah, Ed, is this the Premiership favorite?

Whoever wins this night?

And will they win the flag?

Whoever wins this qualifying final?

I think so.

We're asked to put together our finals crystal balls for this week.

I think this match is a rematch in the Grand Final.

I think the other team has the resilience to go around the long way and play again in the Granny.

The question mark I've got over Brisbane is with Eric Hippood still out with the calf injury for another one or two weeks.

They got enough of a foil for Logan Morris.

Sam Days only kicked three goals this season.

Henry Smith has been out of favor, but he kicked four in the two games that he played.

Does he come back in potentially to their forward month.

Yeah, will be very interesting.

The way Brisbane has got Geelong in the past is small forwards have really ruined them in recent years and the last three games the lines have won, particularly that prelium final, was guys like Rainer even Archie that really took that cuts to pieces in that second half.

Logomn Logan m don't Logan Myris kicked I think five when they played in Geelong earlier.

The lines definitely smashed you along on their home deck.

It'll be interesting how they structure up Oscar The big O was excellent in the VFL last week, which does that meaning plays with Darcy Fort and they go for you're extra height up forward, for it's not much of a threat up forward if you're going to be playing two rucks at the same time.

I think they probably have enough in the fact that they don't rely on every keeopboard to kick goals anyway, He's not a star, so.

They don't missing.

Yeah, I don't think they're taking out a superstar, so I don't think it will matter too much for them.

And what really gets the Cats his leg speed, So I'm not sure that's going to ben issue.

I wouldn't be playing an extra tour tholes the lines.

I'd be going as small as as possible.

Really, I know I've raised that I'm going with the Lions for this one.

Cats for me, I think they've got no excuses.

If they're not going to beat Brisbane this week, they probably never will.

Cats for me, and watch its selection what they do with Jed Bues because O'Connor has to come back and Shannon Neil which never's the obviously first one out, but then who else goes?

And jad but has got a great record on Charlie Cameron, So do they go with the veteran or do they find a different way?

Yeah?

Interesting caller was Mullen was on Charlie Cameron earlier this year and Charlie didn't touch it.

It was in that lean patch off and Risen one and Charlie was nowhere to be seen.

Whether they go back to that or they need Mullen elsewhere.

There's a lot of tagging options.

What Marc O'Connor does.

Does he go to a mcluggy Janiel or a cam Rainer.

It's going to be We're going to be looking at those matchups of that first bounce Freemantle gold Coast.

It's probably the most off Broadway of the four finals.

The Saturday night over in Perth, but you'll be all over at ed.

What do we need to know?

It's just exciting to see gold Coast in their first final series.

I didn't realize that Jared Witz hasn't played in the final before and just the excitement on his face when he slatted that set shot at the end of it was a dead rather set shot at the end of the game against Essendon, but just the sheer joy on the on the Sun's faces.

It was a nice moment.

It's such a.

Tough job though, going to Perth to play an elimination final Freemantle and then pretty good in the first week of finals generally over the last decade when they have made it in the ben hard side to beat in per I think Hawthorne did in that twenty fifteen prelim maybe the Swans went over there and took a game off them, but had been very difficult.

It's not the ideal first final for the Suns and they've only got themselves to blame.

Really Yeah, yeah, And some people believe Freeman is a genuine Premiership chance in some people think they're sort of lucky to make it.

What camp are you in?

What I watched?

It's taken me almost two weeks.

Freedmon' seen to play better away than home, like home hasn't been the fortress at once was.

I mean, if they turn up what they did against the Bulldogs, they'll beat Gold Coast easy.

And if they embraced that pressure of being the favorite, having it all on their terms, they might they might get on a bit of a roll.

I mean Shade Bolton was great earlier.

I mean he's he decides this game, I think because I mean Raul and Anderson, Sarrong all that sort of balances itself out.

Shade Bolton could do something and that's what they're paid him a big money for.

So I think free at home.

Sam Switekowski's under a bit of a claud for the dock is you have the knock his neat you need him.

He's an important player for them, so under a bit of a cloud over whether he can get up for the game, and they've lost Corey Wagner for the season to the pectoral injury.

So Nathan o'drisko went back to the Waffle last week after his drop.

He had twenty five and three goals.

How bad it was back in.

Matt Johnson might be the other one, but they probably don't really have a like for like swap.

If Switkowski doesn't get up, how critical is that to their setup?

Definitely, he's one of those, I guess connected players.

He was fantastic against the Dogs, one of those players that you sort of forget about him and then he does five or six good things and you remember how good he is.

So if he's gone, that's going to be a big blow to them, and they'll be interested to see how they play, given they really just went into fast forward mode almost after quarter time against the Dogs.

They went forward at every single opportunity at speed, and that really ripped the Dogs apart.

Whether that was a Dog centric game plan because they're weak of defense and they're worried about Gold Coast on the rebound getting them back the other way, or whether this is something that they're going to stick with going forward.

Can we play five or does he have to be the sub?

Is he only ever the sub?

I think they could bring him in if they needed to.

It's been been a few weeks now since he got back.

Do you reckon there's a there's a.

Quse a glow full game to be honest, I mean.

Lockhorns with Matt Rowel.

Yeah, why not?

One of the greatest clearance players ever, him and a few others going at raw.

Why not?

If they win?

Does he do another lap of honor?

No?

No more that he was threatening to do one in Melbourne a week ago.

If they lose, maybe yeah you wave again, but no not a.

Another watch on the veterans David swallowed and he's confirmed his future, but he's out of contract at the end of the season.

He's a sneaky chance to come back into the twenty three as the sub as well.

He did in rounds eighteen and nineteen.

That'd be a nice story if he got in as an anorable player and played in that first final.

It would be nice half string stuff.

I don't think it's a good idea, is that he's barely been seen all year.

I think it would be a risk, it would be He's not that kind of guy.

I don't think.

I think it's seven appearances for the season for Swallow.

Four as the sub, it's probably not enough.

He hasn't he hasn't played many of the wins.

That's an interesting and I'm going to go with the Dockers.

For this one.

Yeah from me, docs, docors, Dockers, tell me, tell me our fortunes edits crystal ball time.

What's going to be happening in the next month.

Tended to stick to my pre season tip of Freeman Or for the premiership, but I'm leaning away from then towards the Cats.

I think Geelong regardless of I think tip Brisbane for that qualifying final minutes earlier.

But I think that's a very interesting that Cats are taking.

Long, got the equipment, It's got a long way around win a Grand Final.

Sean Manner one of the great players with tip tim for Norm Smith.

Yeah, okay Smith.

It says finals Crystal first winner Garrett Garrier is medallist.

May I go Manor for that best Finals players?

Gary.

We don't hear about it very much out of September.

In the more games you win, I mean play the more.

Yeah, yeah, Scott, He's going to have to tip someone else because I'm going to be boring and say the Cats I think the top victory inside.

I think if they win Thursday Night they'll get them in themselves into Granny.

I still can't even though everything says forget about it.

The way they played in the middle of the year, it was the best of scene all year.

Bobby Hill, can I ask you Bobby Hill?

Was he there?

He was not there at training and he's not there, so don't pick him for Garier's medalist because he won't be playing in the qualifying final.

Craig McCray is hopeful he will play in the final series at some point, but he was away with family regions according to so no.

Bobby Hill is an obvious issue and they're old and all of that.

I just feel they might have a little bit of a revival for a couple of weeks and it might be enough.

Garis medalists got he.

Max Holmes I think will embrace the final series.

So I think it's a Geelong Collingwood Grand Final.

Yeah, okay, that'd be juicy Cat's being for me I was going to say Max Holmes, but I'll change it to Baslink.

Everyone's on board the Bats train now, so rip up September.

He wins everything at the moment, keep it going the middle Red carp Yeah.

It's time out for quick hands as we wrap up the show, and we got the Charlie Curno trade with her.

A lot of noises out of his camp that he wants to make his way to Sydney.

Scott, you'd be the Blues, Josh, you'd be the Swans, and pitch some trades here.

See how quickly you hang up on these ones for me, Nick Austin, So I'll pitch some trades the Sydney trade.

Do you want Oli Florence Hayden MacLean in a first round pick for Charlie Kenner?

Hello?

Hello, Sorry, receptions failing and icon Park.

I think it's quite hard with Sydney.

They're not going to trade any of those big stars.

So who do you want?

If you're Nick Austen can is there anybody that intrigues you?

Well, I mean if I'm in your shoes Sydney.

Yeah, the Chad is going to go home in a couple of years, do we not all agree with that.

Yeah, it seems and potentially early.

Over to.

The West Coast, West Coast or frame I heard someone else.

I can't claim Tom with this, but Jackson or.

Who he's made, anyone who's made noise about coming home.

So bring back Jackson to Carlton.

Problem solve.

Do you need a star player or can you take a good pick?

Like if it's to West Coast and you get the number one pick, I.

Can't sell it to my very upset members that we're shipping out of Unicorn and getting picks back.

No, yeah, I need a first round pick as well as some gun.

Yeah, that's going to be the sticking point.

Charles is under my guidance for another four years, and.

He's having a good time doing it too.

If you are what about Jed Walter and port Adelade's first round pick for Charlie Kurner.

If you're the Gold Coast, that on.

Warm into that because all the hype on Jed Eve.

No, you can't get a game, which is a slight concern.

That's part of the selling point of not senior players is going to be.

Hard those first pick what is that.

That would be currently five or six, because that's better than Gold Coast pick.

And how are they getting?

How's gold Coast getting ports.

Pick they owned in the Jackalkosis trade last year.

So I've already got that.

I'm the Gold Coast.

So one number A lex managine, now that would be about six seven you.

Get and I need something else, but you're getting.

I'm not hanging up on you.

So you need two first rounders and Jed Walter Yeah, okay, that's getting close someone.

Yeah, I might have a future.

First potentially the next Charlie Camera.

I mean that's been very nice to me, but he has potential.

So that's that's talking point.

Yeah, Shannon Neil and a second rounder.

Stephen Wells second round.

Wow, if you're who has got more currency right now?

Shannon Neil, who's kicked forty two, including thirty in the last eight weeks twenty three come.

Yeah, i'd want a first rep.

I'm not taking a second rep.

Pick.

Yeah, gave me your first round pick and yeah we can talk.

So we've got some frameworks there, and I mean it's possible.

The thing with these you'll be able to read on Code Sports whenever you're watching.

There some ideas for trades for Charlie the problem is in the modern era, you don't see players traded like that very often.

Clubs usually hang up and it's all about draft picks and it all ends up being a seventeen deal that we don't have time on this podcast to go through.

So it's going to be the tricky points.

But I guess there are some options out there that Carlton would actually enter the phone despite what Michael Voss says.

It's going, Yeah, well, it's going to be how much Charlie ends up hating Carlton by the mid October when the trade periods on.

Yeah.

Good thing is we have a good it's really really unhelping with it.

We've got six weeks left dead so there's plenty of time.

This is one of those ones that gets done about twelve minutes after the trade deadline ends and then they rework it.

Yeah, that has happened before, Edward.

One of the last things I just wanted to run by you.

The AFL has just confirmed that the ARC will be reviewing boundary line decisions during the final series.

Once the ball, though is back in play.

Once the boundaryund pire has thrown it back in, it can no longer be overturned.

The decision, so the workers in the ARCT be put under the pump.

They've only got about fifteen seconds to decide whether an out on the fall or an insufficient intent has been made in error.

The AFL says that only forty eight errors were made out of seven five.

It's unbelievable.

It's exceptional.

Strike rates were eight out of seven thousand, hundred.

Boundary excellent.

That's like when you get to the train station and the signs up saying that ninety nine percent of services made it on time in the past month.

It's pretty hard to believe.

Clearly, this is only four if there's a little conference because they the field unpire and they come together because there's players, so that gives the arc that time.

If it's just some random one that the ark's got to the umpire's going to throw me in.

So I think it's for the conference one that wastes time.

Anyway, I absolutely hate it.

I'm going to look down the bow now and I think this is one of the worst ideas we've had in footy.

It follows on with the many bad ideas that we need to get time out of the game, and as you said, Scott, this is going to be an excuse for those umpires to come together.

I think, I don't know, and then they'll pause for thirty seconds, we'll look at replays that are too hard to decipher anyway, and then we'll decide to make a call that will surprise everybody.

I think anytime we try and take the gray out of footy, it makes footy worse because it makes it go for longer.

And the good thing about foot is we can debate these for days afterwards, even if they're slightly off.

That's good.

So any like the example is thrown up about players getting pinged for out in the fall and all that sort of stuff.

I don't think these these ten second window is going to solve that anyway.

But now the umpires will waste a good two minutes wasting my time, wasting Scott his time and Ed's time, just to watch soggy replays.

It's from me, I support my man.

So that was Josh's javelin.

It's an impromptu segment that has popped up in both episodes.

Currently unsponsored, but thanks thanks for your javelining.

I feel a bit warm in the face now.

I'm not happy last one.

There are calls genuine calls for the All Australian Captaincy's decision to be reversed and stripped off Jeremy Cameron.

Malcolm Light was on South Australian Radio yesterday saying that the All Australian selection panel should be dismissed.

That sounds allod job for the Governor General.

I think that's the oversight of this decision.

Twelve on.

There an All Australian team running out to play next week.

Jeremy Cameron leads them out, does the coin toss speak to the group beforehand?

Is that that demotivating that the Australian team is going to be in trouble under Cameron's leadership.

I think they would be in trouble against tim Island, whoever they're playing.

He clearly has no plans for a speech or anything.

I don't think he's even the kind of guy to do the sort of local footy ra ra speech where you just swear at everybody.

I don't think he's even that kind of guy to get fired up about it.

So he's not going to be talking game plan, he's not going to be talk in emotion.

I don't know what Jeds brings to the table.

He was as shocked as anybody to be given the captain's band.

I don't think he wanted it.

I don't think anybody else wanted it.

I don't know.

It's sort of where the selectors were coming from on.

That that call.

Yeah, I was there Thursday night, like as you mentioned, genuine shocked.

Never even was captain of under twelves.

I mean he was amused because there's no surprise on that night, like if you're in the room sitting there where you're clearly in the twenty three.

But what they didn't know was the captain.

And look the legacy thing, you know, Tom Hawkins got I don't mind that, but this was just it's not like Jenmery's.

About to walk out the door and this his last ever.

You've got to have had some like the Hawk has at least been leadership groups might have.

Kept yeah, vice captain on a vaguely been there track.

It was unusual.

Yeah, and Lance Franklin got it and he was never sort of close to captaincy.

But that was a genuine this is one of the best players of the century kind of selection when there's I think Cameron Ling explained it quite well that when there is a standout captain, they should pick that captain.

And when there isn't then you can go to the legacy.

And we had five captains in the team this year, including a couple of absolute standard.

Once you could have even done a legacy and given it to Max Gorne.

So I'm not throwing the toys out of the cult like Bloody though.

I think it's he just wants a spot on the panel.

I signed it sounded it dangerous.

Tom Stewart's not going to play forever.

I think it's good that Jeremy Cameron gets some captains experience in case he's needed to the cuttery.

That's all we got time for on the Code AFL show.

Josh barn Scott going, thanks very much, thanks for joining us so much.

Going to come from our finals coverage in the next few weeks and can follow along and.

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