Episode Transcript
Prepare yourself for the terror, the prison of madness.
Speaker 2We have few inter and Nonritter.
Welcome to Unsung Horrus.
Speaker 3With Lance.
Speaker 4And Dereka.
Speaker 2Leave all your sanity behind.
It can't help you now.
Speaker 5Welcome to another episode of Unsung Horrors, the podcast where we discuss underseen horror films, specifically those which have fewer than one thousand views on letterboxed.
I'm Erica, I'm Lance.
Happy October.
Speaker 2Happy October.
Speaker 5We are in the middle of the month here, Lance's birthday just past.
Happy Birthday again.
I know I said it last episode.
Speaker 2Thank you.
Thank you for people on Discord wishing me a happy birthday too, and messages on Instagram.
It was very, very nice.
Made my day.
Speaker 5Nice to hear.
So October always means our Horror gives Back Charity challenge.
So I'm doing well this month.
I only have about ten movies left to go and it's October nineteenth, so I'm doing good.
Speaker 2I'm not.
I got some catching up to do, but I started very early.
Speaker 5I started mid September, so I.
Speaker 2Think I'll be finagling some stuff like you know, this episode.
I could probably this movie we can I can fit in.
I don't think I have a fanom of Hollywood and there I could throw some of there.
Speaker 5I put both of our episodes in my list.
What depending on what your next pick is, I might throw that in there too.
We'll see.
Speaker 2Yeah, it could fit in some categories.
Speaker 5Okay, well, this one definitely fits in a few categories.
But before we get into that, I did want to remind folks about my Miskatonic Institute of Horror Studies lecture that is coming up on November eighteenth, That is a Tuesday.
It is online, so anybody can sign up for it.
I think it's like ten bucks, and it's at a weird time.
It's at you know, two pm in the afternoon.
I think that's for like because ms Katonic has like their London branch, so I think they try to do it so people from there can jump in and watch it.
Yeah, anyway, because it's online, if you register for it, you'll still have access to it for a couple of days after that if you can't watch it in real time.
I hope some folks can join in real time because you know, it'd be nice to see some friendly names in there and you know, hopefully not get bombarded with questions from people questioning my sanity.
Speaker 2So oh, that's going to happen regardless.
Speaker 5But yeah, it's the presentations coming together.
Well, I'm at about seventy five slides, lots of clips to watch, and even if I've said it before, even if you have the book, there's going to be a lot of new and in there some movies that are in volume two that I'm working on, So I'll again put a link in show notes for anyone who is interested.
One movie that unfortunately is not in the book but still has plenty of great things to talk about is today's episode, and that is Fatal Exposure from nineteen eighty nine.
As of this recording, it has five hundred and forty views on Letterboxed and you can watch this one on YouTube.
So Fatal Exposure is about Jack Rippington.
He is the great grandson of Jack the Ripper.
In present day, he is a photographer who murders people, takes their photo, and then drinks their blood in order to increase his sexual potency.
He meets this girl Erica, and no relation.
No, no, she's not doing any favors to other Erica's.
Speaker 2I mean she kicks some ass at the end at the end.
Speaker 5But she's not very smart.
So it meets Erica.
He decides that, you know, she's worthy of living and in fact to be his girlfriend because he asks her three very stupid questions and she's into it.
So he uses Erica to hire female models to murder and add to his blood viagra stockpile.
Speaker 2And not a very subtle name change for Jack t ripping Tin, not at all.
Speaker 5It's a great name though, Oh it is, like I could see it almost works as a porn name.
Speaker 2Too, and I got porn vibes from this.
I was surprised looking at the cast that these were an adult adult film stars.
Speaker 5Yeah, I mean if you even if you just look at the poster for this, it's like a horror erotic thriller because of that, just like you know.
Speaker 2And it's horny.
Speaker 5Oh it's very hardy.
Speaker 2Yes, that's that's under my favorite notes.
Speaker 5All right.
So Fatal Exposure was directed and shot by Peter B.
Good, not to be confused with Johnny be.
Speaker 2Good way down in Alabama out in letgommo.
Ree, I got nothing.
Speaker 5So he hasn't directed very many films.
One other in his filmography is Force on Thunder Mountain from nineteen seventy eight.
I did not watch this.
Sam Panico, our friend from B and S about movies, Driving Asylum, he has of course seen this because he has seen everything, and he has a review on his site.
So I'm just going to point folks to that in case you're interested in it.
Speaker 2That could also be a very soft core horror.
Speaker 5Oh yeah, like that could have been like, is this you know?
Is it a porn?
Like it's one of those one of those games that you play.
Screenwriter was Christopher Painter, who has zero credits other than this one.
And really when it comes to the crew though, I think the star here is the makeup effects, and that is Scott Coulter.
He's got a number of credits that are going to be familiar to our audience.
In his filmography Nightmare and Elm Street four, Jason takes Manhattan Tales from the Crypt Demon Knights.
Speaker 2Some of the best practical effects in nineties.
Speaker 5Yeah, Demon Wind Class of Newcomb High prom Night three.
Scott Culter also has done work covering the demon horns on his sister Anne whenever she makes public appearances.
Speaker 2That's good.
I was like, are they really related?
Speaker 5I don't know, but I do think that the one credit that stands out here, at least to me, and I know what it is because I feel like the podcast has come full circle because of your background with this film and your like whole s OV thing when you were a kid.
Speaker 2The Crow, Oh, the Crow.
Okay, that wasn't the movie, but okay, I did see his crow.
I got very excited when I saw that.
Yeah, we did a quick summarized remake of The Crow as Captain Tripp's television c Double TV.
There's a skid out there where my buddy Dave is Eric Draven.
He's the Crow and who am I?
I did most of the camera work.
Yeah, no, I was the I wasn't like the our friend Darren was the fire one of the fired up guys.
Yeah it was.
It was brutal.
Speaker 5Okay, So what was the movie that you were excited about.
Speaker 2He did the special effects or worked with the special effects department for Slumber Party Massacre two, which I think is one of the best sequels ever made.
Yeah, right or right right after Maniac Coup two, probably it's.
Speaker 5Yeah, it's up there.
Slumber Party Mascar two is super fun.
Speaker 2I mean, the special effects makeup are fucking awesome.
Speaker 5Yeah, I mean this is you know, this is around the same time as as a few of these films.
You know, it's not too far off.
So I'm not sure how he ended up on this film, but like that is that was the main like stand out to me, and like the reason that I wanted to talk about, Like there's plenty to talk about, but the gore and this is so great for the low budgetness of the film.
Speaker 2Oh yeah, yeah, and it's I mean, we'll talk about I'm sure the kills, but every time one popped up, I'm like, Okay, this one's better.
This one.
They just kept out doing each other.
Yeah, as soon as they start it, they don't stop.
You're right.
One of the best, if not the best, part about this movie.
Yeah, except for the sex scenes.
Speaker 5There's a lot of boobies, all right, So speaking of boobies.
Erica is played by Ena Henderson now na O'Rourke.
She was only in a couple of movies during this time, the other being what looks to be an erotic ghost thriller called Molly in the Ghost from nineteen ninety one.
She had a few television credits, and then she popped back up recently in Farm to fork to love in twenty twenty one, hashtag blessed the movie twenty twenty two, and there is a monster from twenty twenty four, so she looks like she's still acting, but not enough for it to be like her full time career.
Speaker 2So yeah, Molly and the Ghost was one I've actually had in a potential list for an episode, which is funny.
Speaker 5Oh we're going to get into erotic ghost thriller entire.
Speaker 2Toory directed by Don Jones, who also Schoolgirls and Chains.
Oh oh yeah, okay, forrests like that might be a fun pick.
Speaker 5Yeah, maybe, Yeah, I.
Speaker 2Mean, I don't know, Maybe we only need one Ina Henderson movie in our you never know.
Speaker 5I mean it looks I saw ratings Rod Lot, you know, Flick Attack.
He gave it five five stars, but it was mainly because he was like, I just need more people to see this, not necessarily because it's obviously not a five star movie.
But you never know though.
I respect that though.
You know, when either certain people I trust on letterbox and if he's like, you should see this movie, then okay, I'll give him that.
Yeah, respect, I'll Speaking of boobies, Julie Austen plays Marybeth.
She's the girl in the opening that is killed in the you know, the makeout in the truck.
Speaker 2Oh great cold, yeah, great opening.
Yeah.
Speaker 5Now her her main film that she's been in is the main Girl in Elves from nineteen eighty nine, and where her little brother also talked about her boobs in that film.
If everyone's seen it recently, you'll remember that part.
She was also in another film that I was going to watch, but then I felt like I really wanted to save it for June's Ploitation for next year.
It's Extreme Justice from nineteen ninety three.
Listen to this cast lou Diamond, Phillips's got, Glenn Yaffakato, Andrew Divoff, Stephen root Ed Louder So, I'm yeah, like Extreme Justice.
I'm definitely saving this for June's Plitation.
Speaker 2That was additional directing by Spiro Risato.
So he's the class of ninety nine.
Yea watch list.
Speaker 5Yeah.
But our main guy in this film is played by Blake I think it's pronounced Bonner b a h n e R.
Jack Rippington.
So he was in a Chuck Vincent film.
I watched this when we covered Deranged, and that's thrilled to death.
I gave it three stars.
I don't remember it too well, but three stars is pretty good in my book.
Speaker 2So yeah, this student total.
I mean, the whole cast just screams Chuck Vincent vibes as I was watching this.
This could be a Chuck Vincent like bad Blood horror type movie.
Speaker 5Yeah, for sure.
Bonner was also in a women in prison film called Caged Fury from nineteen ninety that looks like another good June's plait pick for anyone who's getting their lists ready super early.
He was in another one too.
Again.
This was another that I was like, oh, maybe I should watch that called Wizards of the Demon Sword, which has Michael Berryman featured very prominently on the poster, but is deep in the credits, so he's probably in one scene.
However, Sam, again getting back to Sam Pianaco, he gave it a half star, so I was like, maybe not sounds like maybe it only has a good title, because like, how cool is that Wizards of the Demon Sword.
Speaker 2I have Rust Hamblin's in it too, Yeah, like I so I can see the appeal.
Speaker 5Yeah, so I see the appeal, but I was not willing to give that my time this week because it's it's been a hectic week.
So but yeah, like pretty short and sweet as far as cast and crew goes.
Pretty much everyone else that's in this film has only been in this film, which I appreciate.
Speaker 3You know.
Speaker 5Maybe they're like, you know, let's just grab some locals.
Like it definitely feels that way, like with the sheriff.
Speaker 2And the girl on the bike.
Speaker 5Yeah, girl on the bike, the couple that comes for the uh.
Speaker 2Other religious Yeah, welcome.
Speaker 5To the neighborhood.
Who are they marry?
Speaker 2No, Maggie and Maggie and Jeff.
Speaker 5Who can I just say like the whole welcome to the neighborhood thing, Like I understand etiquette and like being welcoming, but honestly, to me, the best neighbors are the neighbors who never say Hi.
Speaker 2Yeah.
I think it's I mean, it's changed in decades and decades.
Yeah, and I feel like it's only something that happens in the movies.
Speaker 5Yeah.
Speaker 2Yeah, but I can see this is more believable because it's religious people.
That's the type of people that are like welcome.
Speaker 5Yeah, They're they're coming over, inviting him to church.
Speaker 2Then she immediately just she wants to fuck.
Speaker 5I mean, she's she's.
Speaker 2The religious folks are freaky.
Speaker 5They are they're the you know that repression, well that builds up and when they see an opportunity, they just they jump right on it.
Speaker 2So literally, I've been there, I know from experience.
Speaker 5We'll get back to Jeff and Maggie and we'll go through the desk, but I do want to first talk about Jack's three questions.
Okay, so his three questions that he always asks a woman because he's trying to find his baby mama, which he's very adamant about, like having a son.
So I also wonder like, well, what if she gives him a daughter?
Anyway, his three questions are, what do you think about death and dying?
What do you think when you hear the word blood?
And have you ever considered murdering someone?
And I mean I understand, like I don't know, just it's so odd, and I know it's trying to play up the whole like he's obsessed with blood for a sexual potency.
I mean I might be if I was out here doing what he was doing, I might be asking questions like how do you feel about turning in the person that you love?
If they were doing something wrong, like stuff like that, you know, Like, I mean, I have my own questions that are like deal breakers.
Speaker 2But his questions he didn't think get specific and be like, what do you think of Jack the Ripper, Like, yeah, start giving you know, seeing how morbid they are.
But you're right, it should be who's gonna like help me out with this?
Yeah?
Speaker 5So I don't know.
The three questions are just there.
They're so odd.
Speaker 2And if somebody asked me, what do you think about when you hear the word blood, I would be My answer would be April.
Speaker 5Showers the blood.
Yeah, obviously.
Speaker 2The movie.
Speaker 5Come on, we'll be like, let me tell you about some movies that we have watched and then go on the time.
Speaker 2I did like I think, and some of the goofy narrations I do think he said.
At one point, Jack Rippington said that he was looking for a woman like grandma like Jack the Rippers, I guess wife, Yeah, which I thought was funny.
Speaker 5Yeah, his whole fourth wall breaking to explain all of this stuff to us too.
Speaker 2That's one of my gripes.
I'm not a big fan of narration.
Speaker 5I'm not either, and you know it's already frustrated enough with like when we have to deal with you know, internal monologues.
You know that's telling versus showing.
This is just like it's almost tongue in cheek in a way because he's at the second time he does it, he's in the cemetery talking about it, and then Erica is like, who are you talking to?
Speaker 2Yeah that was funny, Like that was an awesome segue to introduce new characters.
Yeah, But usually when I hear narration, I just think it's like kind of lazy, like they filmmakers maybe couldn't convey and scenes or in plot and dialogue what they want the audience to know, and they kind of like force speed and spoon feed you like this is what the movie's about.
I became a fan of this by the end of it.
I was like, Okay, it's part of the movie.
I like it.
But usually when narration pops up, like especially in like Quentin Tarantino's Hateful Eight, where Tarantino just pops up sounding like Trey Parker from like, you know, South Park, and he starts narrating, I'm like, ah, it's not necessary.
Yeah, we're the audience is smart enough.
Most of the time.
Speaker 5I think it could have been worked in with you know, you know, he's got his three questions that he's asking these women, and obviously, you know, all of them except Erica don't pass his tests, so he could say, ooh sorry, and then you know, add in the whole like let me tell you about me kind of thing and why that was important, and then we get some exposition that way versus this narration, fourth wall breaking.
You know, it's you know, it's it's low budget, it's fine, like this is how they figured out the way to do it.
Speaker 2Like absolutely it ends up working for sure in its favor, makes it that much weirder and at a place.
Speaker 5Yeah I mentioned this earlier, like in the opening, like with Erica, given Erica is a bad name, Like she's not very she's just she's very enthusiastic.
I'll give her that.
But just like the whole agency thing, how is this not a red flag where he's like, oh, I need you to call use all these fake names every single time, and you can't be here when I'm photographing these women because reason whatever, right, Like you can never.
Speaker 2Go in this room ever, Yeah, I mean his explanation for the dark room kind of made sense.
Speaker 5But that makes sense dark for the dark room.
Speaker 2Yeah, but you're right, there's a lot of red flags.
Speaker 5Yeah, and like what's her face?
Girl on the bike, Tracy, she doesn't see them either.
Where He's like, oh, let me stop, you can I take your picture?
Speaker 2Actually?
Speaker 5Can we go behind these bushes?
Speaker 2That was so fun because yeah, she's very reluctant at first.
She's like, I don't know.
And what actually kind of changed her mind was when he said, I'll tell you what you give me your address and I'll mail you a picture.
And she's like, oh okay.
I'm like, that's even a fucking like Marsher red flag.
But that was one of my biggest gripes was Jack Rippington kind of had it made Why would he want to go as soon as it first started happening.
I think I think he was narrating while he was on the phone, like I'm stuck with all these amateurs I really want, you know, every model agency wants me to meet them in person.
Yeah, I can't do that.
And I thought to myself immediately, like why would you do that?
Every move every woman you meet in this movie is just throwing themselves at you and wants you to photograph them because I don't know, you're hot and you're hunky.
You look like JFK Junior or something, and.
Speaker 5That's who he looks like.
Thank you.
Speaker 2He looks like a lot of people sometimes.
At first I thought, well, when I saw the poster, I was all, Chris.
Speaker 5Sarandon, Yes, that's first one.
Speaker 2It's more like JFK Juniors.
It was like or like one of the Menindez Brothers or something, also sexy, the hotter one.
But as soon as that popped up, I was like, that makes no sense.
You got it made Why do you need professional actors or models to react to how to when they're murdered, Because it's a real reaction from a real from just a normal person, an amateur or a trained model.
And I was like, this is going to be your downfall, bro, And then it just realized, Oh, it's necessary for the story.
I'm not going to complain about this, that's.
Speaker 5Fine, But I mean the horniness of this movie, oh yeah, is off the I mean it sets that up very well too.
Where with the opening kills with Jake who gets something stuck in his neck after.
Speaker 2Yeah, like either an ice pick or a screwdriver or something.
Speaker 5I couldn't quite tell, but how to him and Marybeth have a very heavy makeout session in there, and after Jake dies, Marybeth runs through the forest naked.
Still got her shoes on though, because you know you got to run through.
You can't run barefoot through the force that hurts your feets.
Speaker 2And it's tough to get your shoes and off when you're in the front seat getting ready to just that's true.
Speaker 5Yeah, certain things are not a priority when when it's getting heated in a car.
Speaker 2So and these scenes like when they're kissing and when they're fucking, fake fucking.
I really felt that these two people really wanted to fuck and really wanted to kiss.
Like great acting is all I'm saying.
Like it's legit, like it feels real.
And I'm not really good on you know, deep mouth kissing.
I know you hate it, like it's in the moment it happens, for sure, but this was like this felt.
That's why it's very like I thought there were some adult film stars in here, but looking at the credits, there's nothing.
I was just surprised at the acting.
I was really taking a back by how well it was done.
I was into it, and I'm sorry, but what's her name?
Mary Beth?
She got whatever it was an ice pack.
Speaker 5I think she got a knife in the mouth.
Speaker 2Yeah, And I don't think that would kill you unless it's like angled up to the brain.
But I feel like that wouldn't kill you straight back.
Speaker 5I don't think so either.
Speaker 2Maybe she chokes on her blood, but I was like, she could be saved from this.
Speaker 5She had some like weird convulsions when she was dying, so maybe it did go up into her brain.
Speaker 2Yeah, I don't know.
Definitely one of my least favorite kills because they just keep getting better and better they do.
So.
Speaker 5After the opening kill Jake and Mary Beth, Jack Rippington is visited by the religious couple Jeff and Maggie.
Maggie very willingly goes upstairs to slip into something more comfortable yes, while her husband is downstairs still talking to Jack, Jeff voluntarily gets into a stocks that's what you called right where you know, you stick your head and hands through.
I don't know, like if I were truly a religious person, I would be like, this is some fatanist stuff right here, and I don't know about all this.
Speaker 2Yeah, but at the same time, I think they're trade almost realistically because they are freaky.
Yeah, and at this point, Jeff is such a nerd, you know, he's like, hey, you play softball?
You want to join the softball church team.
That I don't know, Maybe he's trying to impress this hot honky guy.
Maybe, yeah, but it is very bizarre for him to be just sticking his head and hand into these stocks.
Speaker 5Yeah, but it's I mean, it's a great I mean, we're not seeing the head actually get sliced off, but we see the fake head in the basket and then like the decapitated rest of the body with the blood spewing out of it.
So first introduction is like, here's where the gore like really starts kicking it up a notch because the opening kill.
Yes, it's fun, but really it's just there because he's like, oh, I need an opening kill.
Right, It didn't really have anything because he didn't take Mary Beth with him to get her blood or anything like that.
You just like he's just in the forest kill.
Speaker 2He does ask her the three questions.
Yes, I mean, yeah, you're right, it's.
Speaker 5All set up, but Maggie's dead.
Speaker 6The church lady, lady, does she get injected with acid?
Speaker 2Okay, so yeah, this is where you really start seeing the special effects because the chopped off head, it's, you know, it's very dummy.
It's something you might find its spirit of Halloween fake, you know, spongy, you know, guts some stuff with blood spurting out.
This is where you see like that fucking pimple and slumber Party massacre too.
Like, yeah, she's injected with acid and it starts eating her, eating her neck, going down her neck and she's like vomiting foam and it's just very effective.
Like right away, I was all, favorite kill.
This is gonna be my favorite kil can't beat that.
Speaker 5But then I don't know, and then it then it just keeps going from there.
So Jack Rippington is storing his dead bodies in the cemetery, which is smart.
Yes, that is where you should hide dead bodies.
I don't disagree with that, but it's in this it's we're told as the audience, So this is a crypt.
It is it is.
It is not a crypt.
It is basically a pile of bricks in front of us, and he's like stuffing I don't know how many bodies in there.
Speaker 2Yeah, that's that's one like misstep from from ripping maybe spread them out.
Speaker 5Yeah, Like you're in a cemetery.
You know, you can dig anywhere you can, you can go to an existing grave, and but the body on top of that, that's where I would put the body.
Wait, I didn't say that.
Cut that.
But the cemetery man no relation to uh delam.
He gets he catches onto all this eventually, even though he should have caught on right away, like oh you're you know, oh you're putting flowers in a wheelbear Like.
He's not very good at coming up with excuses on the fly, but you know, not every serial killer can be super smart.
But the cemetery guy, he gets killed with the shotgun.
And there's a head explosion for that, which it's kind of too close up to really see any detail, so not my favorite, but still I appreciate a good head explosion whenever we can get one.
Speaker 2Yeah, there's even like a little bit of flames going on.
Yeah, like it looked cool, but you're right, it's like blink and you miss it.
Yeah.
Yeah, and then you get Gretchen.
One of the Gretchen is Eric's friend that we meet, so she's kind of on too ripping tin and has always been questioning, like this guy seems bad.
Speaker 5Well, she's got glasses, so she knows.
Speaker 2She's got the knowledge right up front, you know that.
So yeah, he even fights her over to kind of smooth things, smooth things out between them, and she gets a circular, circular saw to every part of her body.
And he started great practical effects because you know, first he cuts off the hand, which is then it doesn't show him cutting her, but he's picking up like every organ and body part.
And finally you get the head at the end, which is like apparently her eyes popped out at some points, wonderful.
And I was like, okay, here we go.
There, here's my favorite kill in the movie.
Speaker 5It's it's super fun.
I think the next one it's either Tracy, the girl on the bike, who we don't see her actually get killed.
She's just like taken off screen and just another disappearance, you know, not going to victim shame, but girl red flags just so many just yah, anyway.
Speaker 2Keep biking.
Speaker 5The first the so apparently there's just a string of models that are being brought here and he's killing all of them.
The only one we actually see get killed.
Though, is one who I don't remember her name, but she was Chambers.
Candice Chambers was told to wear a champagne colored bikini and clearly that's white.
Now I don't know if it's after labor Day, but it was.
Speaker 2I mean again, the transfer we have what's on YouTube is pretty rough.
Speaker 5It is, it could be it could be a little.
Speaker 2Yeah, it looked a little beigeiush to me, I saw a little cream in there.
Speaker 5All right, well, I'm being picky, but.
Speaker 2A champagne really really observing kidding, But she.
Speaker 5Gets she gets electrocuted, and that one's fun like we actually see her body hanging from the back of a door later on too.
What was funny to me though, was when Erica finally starts, finally starts to catch on.
It's because of a newscast.
That's like, oh, a young woman has disappeared a model too, and it's like, oh, because that makes her.
Speaker 2More important it does.
Speaker 5Okay, Well, I know I understand that I am a lesser human because I do not you know, I am not in the entertainment industry and I am not a.
Speaker 2But you would be safe from killers like Jack Rippington.
Speaker 5This is true.
I also don't live in Uh well no, I mean because he's getting models from New York, so yeah, anybody could be as victims.
Speaker 2So yeah, the coming all the way from New York to Alabama for like to shoot, Like what did he tell her?
It's for an industrial magazine.
Speaker 5Yeah, it's like and then.
Speaker 2The betting the agency vet this is bad news, like they like they kind of deserve this.
Sorry, yeah, it's their employer is not very very good with fire.
Speaker 5Your agent, ladies.
I think the next one after that we're getting, like towards the end as far as like the kills go is the sheriff, who I love the sheriff, Like he's just a good old boy.
Speaker 2He's just you know, drinks whatever you hand them.
If there's a container, he's gonna drink out of it, no matter what's in there.
Chugging blood in the beginning.
Speaker 5Yeah, he takes it, takes a sip of blood.
He is having a drinking contest while he's on duty.
Speaker 2But you know it's that's one of my favorite cuts.
Like I feel like it's when Eric is starting to figure stuff out, she's driving off and it just immediately cuts to them like chucking beer ah, you beat me again, Like, I don't worry about it.
Nobody's beaten me since high school or something.
Speaker 5Yeah, but Jack gives him because he basically again Jack not very smart.
He tells the sheriff like, you know, oh, cemetery, like yeah, I noticed him like poking around by the crypt or whatever.
And then he's like, oh wait, that's where I hid the bodies.
Now I got to kill the ship.
Speaker 2Yeah, he's like talking too much.
Speaker 5And so the share he puts some hydrochloric acid in the Sheriff's beer, and his death like, I mean and I looked up, like what happens if you drink hydrochloric acid?
Speaker 2And that's it like a hole in your neck.
Speaker 5Yeah, it's like it just you know, erodes you from the inside out.
Speaker 2And it's a very violent death to watch.
She's got blood like coming out of his ears.
Yeah, there's a hole in his neck, and yeah.
That I'm like, here's my favorite.
Speaker 5I think it is.
Speaker 2I mean, it isn't my favorite, though, Oh no, you saved the best for last in this case, in this movie, Yeah, which is I mean jumping straight ahead ending the movie is obviously Jack's death.
Erica figures out what's happening.
We get the final, you know, showdown, and Blake Bonner just sells the fuck out of this because he's gurgling and screaming.
So she throws there's this acid ate everywhere.
Speaker 5Yeah, I mean because you need that to develop photos.
Speaker 2Yeah, I think that's what the purpose was.
And I don't know if it's if there's actually hydrochloric acid for photo developed.
Maybe some dark rooms and back in the Earth eighties.
I don't know, because I used to have a dark room.
I love dark room.
Speaker 5I did not know you actually had a dark room.
Why you love them so much?
Speaker 2Yeah, well, yeah, I had.
I took photography as a class like in school, and I was like really into it when I first moved to Austin, and I had my professor come to my duplex and we mapped it out and I built the me and my father in law built like the desk, a little sink got all the dark ring how the enlarger that I bought like on Craigslist at the time.
Yeah, I was all into it.
And I've never been burned by any chemicals, but that I was using my developments because I did all print.
It was all film, but he had ascids sitting there, Erica grabs it, throws it at his face, and he starts gurgling and fucking like screaming for like two full minute and melting and amazing practical effects, like you think he's dead, but he's not.
It's like he grabs your leg and I thought he was like getting torn in half, like he was reminded me of a bishop from Aliens, like when he's like laying there, but that was I was like, this is it.
You can't.
This is the best of the movie.
And that's my favorite kill.
Speaker 5And that's what I think is so great about this when it comes to the kills, is because it does like so you had even said, like, oh, when Maggie gets injected with acid, like, oh, that's gonna be my favorite kill.
And then it just it keeps getting better and better and better from there.
And so what Peter B.
Good lacks in storytelling and like you know, some sort of you know, logic in a lot of ways, he definitely makes it up for in this respect.
Now, I mean, obviously a lot of the credit has to go to Coulter for his special effects in it, but obviously it goes under the direction of good and saying like yeah, so I really appreciate it for that where it's like so many people making films like you know, blow their wad and like the you know, in the middle kind of thing, and then it's all kind of downhill from there where it's like here, it's like.
Speaker 2It's one after and that's what that's.
Yeah.
I love that aspect, and it the introduction of the characters, and they're all memorable characters, like we know, the Goofy cemetery caretaker, this kind of sweet but very proud like sheriff, you know.
Yeah, even the girl on the bike, and like the ghost Hunters they start off as ghost Hunters Erica and Gretchen.
The amount of characters I just continuously pop up, and that's usually one of of my favorite Some of my favorite movies are just because of the amount of characters, or like in like Giallo, it's like Red Herrings, you know, like Ourgento's Bird with a crystal plumage is my favorite because of how many weird off the wall characters just pop in for a little bit.
And I kind of got that vibe here.
I was like, I like everybody that's popping up, and I know it's for the high kit and the body count, which again, the practical effects make this but I really like how this was written in paste.
I'm like, this is boom boom boom.
Speaker 5It's gonna be short and sweet.
Do you have anything else in your mind?
Speaker 2You have a few favorites.
There's a polar bear rug.
I'm not a fan of taxidermy.
No, you don't see that every day, so you really don't.
Speaker 5Yeah, usually just see like the regular grizzly bear ones, I guess.
Speaker 2And that was for Erica and Jack's first scene, maybe when she's impregnated.
So I thought that was a pleasant surprise seeing a random polar bear rug pop up in Alabama.
Yeah.
The songs are very figure.
Speaker 5This was going to be a big selling point for you.
Speaker 2And their original songs because, like, you know, some of the lyrical context is like you know, it's it's explaining, you know, Jack's backstory in more ways.
During the sex scene, the lyrics are I forgot the melody, but it's like I can feel you, You're in my blood and his whole fucking you know, breaking the four wall when he's chugging blood for sexual potency for Jack Rippington June, You're One of my favorite scenes too, is when he's like in his dark room and he's drinking the blood and he just burps roll out.
It's so out of character but wonderful.
But there are three songs, once called stand Up by Rainy Haynes, Law of Desire by Wayne Perkins, and the sex scene song You're in My Blood by James Holmes, performed by Nico not Nico from Velvet Underground obviously well yeah it's a spelled with a K.
But yeah, again, the sex scenes I thought were very powerful.
I was like, here we go, Like I thought they felt very real to me.
Yeah, those are pretty much my favorites.
And then Erica at the end being so tough, like she can fight, and I really I really liked how she kind of ended up being the Winter but also kind of continuing on with Jack Rippington's whole murder plan kind of she becomes a photographer at the end.
I hope she keeps the baby.
Speaker 5I mean I don't, but that's because I don't like children.
Speaker 2Well, because your review was get an abortion, Erica, I say, keep the keep it because I think this would be a fun ass move, like make a sequel right now, somebody pick this up, make a sequel, And I say, I think it'd be fun as hell to to write, you know, pick up these stories and make it a little Maybe pick like a softcore porn sounding horror name, kind of like fatal Exposure.
Lean into the photography theme.
Still, maybe call it something like fully developed.
Oh, or how about fatal exposure to Jack's camera shop?
Or how about this set shutter speed to kill.
I mean, I think this would be fun to pick up, and like, I feel like somebody should just write and make a low budget see well, I think, and it involves Erica keeping the baby.
Speaker 5Yeah, well fine, sorry, it's okay.
I mean I understand some people have to have them.
I do like just getting back to the core of your idea, though, you know, I complain to no end about the lack of you know, original horror movies.
Like I just don't like new horror movies or anything like that.
And a lot of that has to do with like, oh, let's reboot Halloween.
Let's reboot when did they just reboot that?
I like, Urban Lynch is some fucking shit.
I don't know there anyway I like doing it.
Speaker 2I know what you did last summer.
Speaker 5That's what they Yeah, anyway, I just I don't I don't care for it, but I do think outside of the fact that like, there are so many short stories and books that people could be adapting rather than just like going back to them the same.
Well is this idea is finding low budget movies like this, There is an idea, let's we're not going to We're not going to remake this, We're going to make a sequel exactly to a movie like some you know what about Humanoids from the Deep too, like let's you know something.
Speaker 2Yeah, and you're right, I think the more low budget and more like you know, no studio grasping onto these ips where it's yeah, it feels like something Ted v.
Michaels would do or something like, Yeah, I just watched Devil bat for Horror Gives Back for my Animal Attacks movie, and that's from nineteen forty.
It's bell Lego seats around there.
Yeah, And as I was, you know, I try to read just a little bit about some of these from when we prep for our horr g Is Back episode.
And somebody did a follow up to that movie in twenty twenty oh, somebody made like a sequel.
Speaker 5To that see good for you.
Speaker 2Yeah, I looked it up and it's very you know, it has like fifty you know, it's on letterbox, but you know, nobody watches.
It's very probably shot on video, very low budget, and I'm like, I want to see this, Like I like where this person's head's at.
Speaker 5Yeah, see, Like that's what I'm talking about, Like there are opportunities for original ideas, but that are still grounded in some already established lore or idea or plot or whatever a type of killer like that.
It may be right, I don't know, I.
Speaker 2Just no, I hear you, Like, I'm very tired of all these remakes and redos.
And even if it's like a sequel with like thirty years later with the same cast, like sometimes it works, most of the time it doesn't.
It's just like just end it, yeah.
Speaker 5Like don't we don't need to bring people back so that people can you know, fucking Leonardo DiCaprio like what could this mean?
I can't.
I can't do the whistle, so I can't do it.
Speaker 2But if Ena Henderson is still acting, she would be in my fucking movie.
Speaker 5She wi Well, yeah she could.
I mean, you know, she could be in there as the mom.
But it's not like she's some person who everyone would be like, oh my god, it's Sina Henderson, you know.
Yeah, So I wish more people would do this, like have that, and it's not going to happen.
Speaker 2Well, I mean, I'll start putting the kickstarter together.
We'll see what happens.
Speaker 5Okay, wellah, somebody out there.
Speaker 2Who's ready for set shutter speed to kill Fatal Culture too.
Speaker 5All right, so double future picklance.
Speaker 2Okay, I'm going to go with another grandson of a famous mad man who wants to carry on the grandfather's life work.
And there's one that doesn't really get any better than mel Brooks's Young Frankenstar nineteen seventy four.
Well, yeah, that's how I mean, very different from Jack Rippington, who obviously has no shame in his history.
Frederick Frankenstein obviously initially doesn't want to carry on his wants no association with his grandfather, but he ultimately, you know, starts picking up.
He wants to create the monster when he gets back to the ancestral castle, and he does what his grandfather's known for.
So yeah, I think I think there are a lot of laugh out loud moments in fatal exposure, especially if you watch it with friends, like that Burt scene.
I was like, what, that's amazing.
So I would say, like, why not just cat the night off with pure horror comedy and then do a grandson doing grandfather's life work double feature?
I like it?
What about yours?
Speaker 5I really wanted to go with something that because the tone and sort of direction of this Jack the Ripper movie is unique and there, but there are so many different takes on that person and that lore out there.
I looked up some like Jack the Ripper lists on letterboxed.
The one that I saw that had the most on there had about fifty movies, and I still this wasn't on there, So I'm like, your list is incomplete story.
Speaker 2Wow.
Speaker 5So I mean there's there's so many opportunities for that.
You know.
Obviously Jack's back, which we cover last last year?
Is that no remember last year or the Yeah?
Speaker 2I think it was year before.
Speaker 5Okay, Jack's back.
Abel Ferrara's Fear City from nineteen eighty four, which isn't explicitly Jack the Ripper, but it is like a serial killer going after sex workers.
You could do a straight one like well, not really straight because it's just Franco but his from nineteen seventy six during klaus Kinski.
But ultimately I thought, what would kind of work after watching this would be another one where this sort of spirit of Jack the Ripper is still within the film itself, and that's Hands of the Ripper from nineteen seventy one.
This is a Hammer production directed by Peter Sasti.
The premise is that this woman Anna is possessed by her father's spirit, who just so happens to be Jack the Ripper.
So I think, you know, there's there's so many directions with Jack the Ripper that you can take like just a literal telling of it.
There on that list I mentioned there were a lot of Jacqueline Hyde movies on there, which I mean there are some.
Speaker 2Yeah, I mean was like, what is it called Hands of the Ripper?
That one is if I remember she has no recollection of murdering people, right, yeah, so maybe that yeah, maybe it's like segueing.
Speaker 5Yeah, because they had Doctor Jekyll and Sister Hide on there, and I.
Speaker 2Was like, yeah, I mean, oh no, there is a Jack the Ripper subplot.
Speaker 5Yeah, yeah, so like there's that and so there's I think that happens with some of these, but there were a few others, Like they had that Anthony Perkins Edge of Sanity one on there, and that's a straight jackyl and Hyde one from what I remember, I don't remember there being a Jack the Ripper subtext in that.
Speaker 2Yeah, there's the one with is it Malcolm McDowell too, what's it called?
One after Time?
I don't even remember the name.
Yeah, but it's like a time travel movie.
I don't know.
Speaker 5There's there was a lot on that list which i'd only seen like seven or eight of them, so got some work to do with Jack the Ripper.
But yeah, Hands of the Ripper in nineteen seventy one is my pick.
But we are moving into no Rules November next month.
Lance, This is our last pick of the year, each of us.
Speaker 2Yes, because I think everybody knows we've been taking December off the last couple of years.
It's going to be no different this year.
So yeah, no Rules November, say it.
We still kind of attempt to pick something that's a little obscure.
Yeah, when we do these, I know I picked Madman Hear my first year.
Speaker 5I still feel like I think you picked that one before it was on Joe Bob, which I think was a lot of people's introduction to that film.
So that's probably the most well known film that we've.
Speaker 2Done, absolutely, I think.
Speaker 5So for No Rules November, maybe Who Can Kill a Child, But I think that's more like mine.
Speaker 2I would have made.
I would be surprised if that.
Yeah, it's like over ten thousand views on letterbox.
I don't know like it might be, but yeah, most a lot of these have releases are have had releases since.
But I'm going to go with the rather unsung horror for the most part with this pick.
And we haven't had a lot of necrophilia in twenty twenty five.
You can never have enough necrofela exactly.
That's my point.
And it's been a short year for us, so I wanted to I'm going to pick a movie that pretty much has a heavy focus on negrophilia.
It's called Love Me Deadly from nineteen seventy two.
So this is about a young woman who has some serious daddy issues.
She lost her father at a very young age, not quite getting over his death, and she likes to cope by attending visitations or wakes of random recently past strangers, and she likes to sneak a kiss and maybe a tongue into the mouth of some of these dead strangers during the open casket viewing.
Her compulsions run very deep and take hold as she sucked into this underground club of necrophiliacs.
All the while she's fallen in love with this man who is very much in love with her.
So we're just going to watch this thing and figure out how it all turns out.
And as usual, no kink shaming, ever, ever, never, If anything, we're going to be applauding and actually cheering on a lot.
Speaker 5I would actually encourage.
Speaker 2You can find love Me Deadly on YouTube, which we'll put a link in.
Show notes.
Code Red released a blu ray of this back in twenty eighteen.
But this should be a fun, fun way to kick off.
No rules, no vemo.
Speaker 5Who can kill a child?
That's twenty one thousand views?
But oh wow, so good for you people.
Speaker 2Hell yeah, let's get it up there.
Speaker 5Yeah all right, if you're not already, you can follow our podcast on Instagram at Unsung Horrors.
You can follow me on letterboxed and Instagram at Hex Massacre.
Speaker 2You can follow me on Instagram and letterbox at Elshiby.
Speaker 5Thanks for listening to everyone, and we'll see you back in November.
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