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Hello and welcome to another episode of Unsung Horrors, the podcast where we discuss underseen horror films, specifically those with less than a thousand views on letterbox I'm Lance, I'm Erica, and Erica.

We are still in August, yes, which means that we're still celebrating our annual tradition of sh August.

That's where we and our listeners just watch as many Shaw Brothers films as we can during the month, and during the month of August, we like to highlight Shaw Brothers horror films, underseeing horror films, those obviously fewer than a thousand views on letterboxed.

So this time we're going to be talking about Hell has no boundary from nineteen eighty two.

As of this recording, it has seven hundred and three logs on letterboxed.

You can find it streaming on ok dot Ru, which is essentially Russia's YouTube, so it's safe for the most part.

Thanks Russia just for this, but that's all.

Yeah, right, get we find some good hard to find movies there.

Yeah, there's also some bootleg DVDs out there on eBay, but I have a strong feeling that this might be getting a Blu ray treatment.

It seems like a movie that will be put out to the world.

So there's a There's so many that are coming out.

There's so many block sets that are coming out.

Arrow Shout Factory, Imprint just got in the game with their their shaw Shock set which had a second our last episode, and uh, as usual every s August we have our same guest who is a regular contributor to multiple sets.

There's been a lot happening in the last year that I've seen our guests contribute to.

So welcome back.

I thank you.

Yeah.

The last year was a busy one for me.

Without going into details that I cannot disclose right now, last year and a half, I did roughly a dozen commentaries for show Factory, for Arrow and for an Australian release of Ship I'm spacally on the name of it.

I did so many the same time.

That's okay, now you your name snow Girl.

The snow Girl nice?

Yeah, so I got I got very burnt out on show Brothers for a while.

There is there is one release that I was involved in that has yet to be announced.

Can't say anything about it except that your listeners are going to be very happy with it.

Oh, okay, that's all I will That's all I will say.

That's all I will say.

Excellent.

I was going to, but I'm not because I mean, you can guess.

I just can't give you answers.

Right, horror, Jason.

It sounds like probably, I don't know, okay.

Maybe yeah, Well, yeah, I mean we I've been doing a lot of a lot of my sh August watches came later in the month, doing a lot of chore u N watches, including Haunted Tales which I think Adam shared the link to that in our discord, Bat Without Wings, Magic Blade, Sentimental Swordsman, and Jay Tiger which Ian I listened to your commentary for that excellent, John, as always.

Oh thank you.

What have you been watching for sh August?

I've been watching.

Yeah, I watched that without Wing about without Wings as well?

God, what else about watching.

That without wings?

Kind of rules it does?

I'd never seen it before.

Obviously, you know what we watched Sex Beyond the Grave.

I had never seen Hell has No Boundary before this episode?

Ian, is this the first time you had watched it too?

Before?

I went into it completely blind away I've ever seen it.

I had never seen it before.

And when you said, hey, let's do how has No Boundary?

I was like, okay, I'm not even going to look this up on IMDb or anything.

I'm just going to go in knowing nothing excellent.

And I actually left it until last night to watch so that it would be like it's fresh in my mind.

Yeah.

I took notes and stuff, but I had not seen it before the last twenty four hours.

Wow, I can't wait to hear what you have to say about it.

Yeah.

Yeah, Well, and we'll dig into.

It, and we're going to need you to actually correct us if you can in any of these pronunciations of these names.

Okay, now, okay, you're off the hook.

We're just apologizing for everything to the names.

It's fine.

I do want to add one more thing to my sort of shawgust pile here, because I went, you know, I was like, I'm doing a deep dive on this, and I had seen this book that came out last year, and I was like, oh, that's cool, but I don't have a job, so I'm not going to buy that right now.

I have a job now, yay, And oh thank you, I know I heard, I heard you.

You got impacted.

To my god, it's this is the worst timeline, but it's me.

I'm glad that we're both re employed.

So I was like, okay, I'm gonna I'm going to grab that book and I'll have like another resource.

So it is Shaw Brothers Masters of Kung Fu Cinema book.

Okay, it is because it's I did not okay, So this is my fault for looking at it and not actually reading the description of it.

Like how fucking thin this book is.

It's basically a they took the wikipedias for all of these movies.

There's a ship ton of typos in it, like uh some of the title like there look Martail Club not Marshall Club, like and big it's all over this book.

And I don't like to call someone out.

I know how hard it is to put something together and make a book, but like, look how thin this is.

You didn't put it in a lot of time to it and like it's literally like the most useless book I've ever bought.

So I'm really mad that I bought it, and I'm really mad that there didn't.

You didn't look up how many pages it was.

I did not because I saw the cover and I was like, cool, this is gonna it.

The back of it says, this visually stunning book aims to delve deep into the cinematic wonder show.

Whatever delve deep?

Does it not a deep dive del Yeah, it's visually yeah, very pretty.

It's very pretty.

It's got a lot of pictures, colors, nice thick pages.

But you didn't put anything in this book, So folks, don't buy this fucking book like I did.

August.

Oh well, I mean, start working on your own Shaw Brothers.

No, I'm working on volume two.

Oh yeah, Sweetest Taboo.

Speaking of Sweetest Taboo, that's hell has no boundaries in your first book?

Yes it is, so let me try.

And do a summary.

I mean, obviously with the Shaw Brothers, whoores, they're difficult to summarize.

I'm going to give it a go.

This one's real short.

So we have May who is a vice cop, and she and her cop boyfriend slash fiance head out on a camping trip to celebrate her birthday, but May quickly becomes possessed by a vengeful spirit, the spirit of a young girl who was treated and murdered in a very gruesome manner during her short life.

I think we'll talk about this particular flashback scene, but it's so good.

Those who've read read Erica's book The Sweetest Taboo probably already know what happens to the young girl.

It's brutal, and it's why we love this movie.

But May, she's possessed, which gives her the supernatural abilities, also changes her personality from kind hearted to very mean spirited, and she begins to use her newfound powers to pretty much fuck up anyone who wrongs her and her fiance.

Other cops a reporter are trying to figure out what's going on and how May is connected.

Also, this spirit possessing May has an agenda of her own due to pacity events, and this leads to a truly unhinged, supernatural, wonderful ending.

Yeah, we're going to dive into the specifics and the details of this movie.

Let's let's see what I can do with these with the crew and cast members.

All right, I have to interject really quickly, please too.

I did read Erica's book and I forgot this was in there.

Oh, but I read it like when I first got it.

Probably because you hadn't seen Hell has no boundary.

I hadn't seen it, no, exactly, so it was kind of like, oh, this sounds cool, and I wanted to the next one.

And did I tell you last year?

I don't know if i'd read it last year or not.

No, I hadn't, because when we recorded last August, I don't think I have the book yet.

So I literally read your book while my wife was having surgery.

Oh, like in a hospital waiting room.

So maybe not in hindsight the best spot to read a book.

Yeah, that's where I read it.

So yeah, forgive me if I forgot that this was in the book.

It's fine.

You know, there's twelve hundred movies in that book.

I I blame no bloody for I forget movies are in that book sometimes because they're like, oh, isn't this in there?

And I was like, I don't know, is it?

Look at the index?

I know when I announced that, your face just lit up and you're like clapping, and I'm like, oh, this is.

Well because this is like I remember, like the four and five star kills.

So like this is up there.

Yeah, this wasted in that yeah book because I did go back and read your excerpt on it and stuff.

It also has that cool little menu that you put together.

Oh yeah, it's in the swift It's in the menu.

It's got the short ribs.

That's right, let's go meet Okay, So hell, How's no Bound?

Was directed by Chuan Yong.

I couldn't find too much information on him, but I'll share what I did learn, and you guys feel free to interject if you having information.

He directed roughly fifty films starting in the late fifties.

He was born in Guangzhou, China, and he moved to Hong Kong when he was seventeen, and he began his film career at the age of twenty five, enrolling in the China Film Academy in nineteen fifty six studying screenwriting and directing, and a few years later, in nineteen fifty nine, he wrote and directed his first film, a horror movie with such a good title, Flying Corpse on a foggy Night.

I couldn't find this anywhere.

I tried to.

Yeah, no, Locking.

Piper, can you stop looking your footer Piper, Thanks.

Thank you, adding a little ambiance.

It sounds like a Shaw Brothers soundtrack in the.

Background, like eating maggots.

But he then joined a motion picture company called Tao Yun Motion Picture and signed on as an assistant director until nineteen sixty three, when he left to begin making films as an independent filmmaker, and he directed some very successful films during this time, including one based on a popular TV character named tam Bingman, which Jong made a comedy feature after, called The Country Bumpkin in nineteen seventy four, and this film was apparently one of the top ten highest grossing Hong Kong films that year, so studios obviously went after him, and he signed with the independent production company Gold Egg Films in late nineteen seventy four, so the majority of his filmography that he directed he pretty much was all independent or for other studios other than Shaw Brothers.

He signed with Shaw Brothers in nineteen eighty two, when he only directed five films that I know of with him, Hell Has No Boundary being his first, and then in nineteen eighty six he wanted to become an independent director again, in he remained one until his last movie in nineteen ninety six or nineteen eighty five, although he does have some directing credits on IMDb in the early two thousands, but that seemed to be like previously shot footage that filmmakers used.

He passed away at the age of eighty one in twenty twelve in New York, where he had been living for a number of years, but we brought up a few of his films in past episodes, particularly in sh August.

First off, he directed the beautifully touching, very family friendly, uplifting classic Seating of a Ghost from nineteen eighty three.

Movie is so fucking good.

Yeah it is.

It's like top three.

It's right up there for me.

Like my favorites are Corpsmania and The Boxer Zonemen, but I'm putting Seating of a Ghost stuff there.

I just rewatched that too.

I watched it last year.

I mean I've seen it I don't know how many times at this point, but my wife and my step son had never seen it, so we watched it together.

I just every time that ending it does it really does.

Was anybody in surgery at the time you were watching?

No?

No, no, thankfully this time I love his One of his later Movies nineteen ninety four's Bloody Beast.

I think I turned you on to them.

I just yeah for last year for our Horror givets Back October challenge for the Sweetest taboo A category.

Yes, obviously it has its child.

It's this one is got those unhinged moments of it category three film.

It's about a guy who has been He gets sexually aroused by women who are breastfeeding.

Just the cow juice, cow juice whatever, women juice whatever.

It's all disgusting.

But yeah, it's I love that one too, so, I mean his his top line on letterbox is like, you know, banger bang or banger.

Yeah, yeah, for sure.

I watched a few of his earlier action films while he was working for Gold Digg Films in the late seventies.

A Bruce ploitation film called Storming Attacks in nineteen seventy eight, also known as the Image of Bruce Lee, and This stars Ho Chewing Tao, Bruce Lie, Bruce Lee.

I had a lot of fun watching this.

I really liked all the characters.

It got really stupid.

I think they changed the name because one of the characters in the movie tells him he looks just like Bruce Lee.

Oh, is this one in that Bruce ploitation set.

I haven't watched.

I don't one yet.

Actually, I didn't look at it.

I don't think it was.

It does have Boloyung in it is one of the main lung in it as one of the main two villains in this and basically him and Bruce Life fight each other a dozen times throughout the movie.

So I'm thinking of the other one that's INID it's Phormography, the Duel of the Seven Tigers, because you watched that one.

I did watch that one too.

Yeah, I've seen that one too.

That one's a lot of fun.

That one is good.

It has a great kind of I think that's someone that had the No.

That's the cold open was for Storming Attacks where there's an older gentleman who's going to commit suicide and Bruce Lee he grabs his arm to save him, but unfortunately it's a prosthetic arm, so it pops off and down.

You guys, this isn't Yeah, that's like in the first that's like in the first like two minutes of the movie.

No spoilers, but it's a great cold open.

I'm like, Okay, this movie is Gonna.

It's got a lot of Philip co in it.

I always like watching Yes, Yeah.

Duel of the Seven Tigers that Actually I found it a little Some of the characters were born, but his character just steals the show.

Him and his final fights are like worth watching for.

Sure, if I remember right.

Though, he's cast as a Japanese guy too.

He is, Yeah, wasn't here.

He's in Sex Beyond the Grave as a Japanese as Japanese.

Yeah, those two movies were fun watching.

Also, I saw that director Trn Yong has some small roles in a few movies acting roles, including Twin Dragons with Jackie Chan.

I think he's like in the background some Yeah, he's probably just walking around.

But I saw that because I watched that for the first time a couple of years ago, and I was like.

It's a blast.

It's it's so funny, like the twin brothers can feel when another's on a speedboat.

Or it's so ridiculous it makes me based when Jackie Chan was good, I said it.

I'm sorry, I said.

For foreigner accurate things.

So Hell Has No Boundary was produced by Lady shaw mona funk who we've chatted about plenty of past Shaugus episodes.

We've also talked about the Shaw Brothers master editor Chang Sing Lung, who's edited about eight hundred Shaw Brothers movies, so I'm not really we don't really have to dive into him.

The original score, which I think is great.

It's a combination of probably pre existing scores from so Yan Howe and Stephen Shing Game Wing, who each have had a hand in probably at least one of your favorite Shaw Brothers films.

These include The Boxers, Omen Five, Element, Hinjas, Bewitched, Seeding of a Ghost, Human Lanterns.

The list goes on and on.

I also read I don't know if you guys heard it or know of this scene, but somebody pointed out that phantasm was used or it was recreated the phantasm theme.

Ye, I mean, oh, I missed that.

I missed it, But it's used in I've heard it in so many show Brothers movies.

I wouldn't be surprised.

Yeah, that's what I was.

Yeah, because didn't we talk about it in Sex Beyond the Grave?

Or I think yeah we did because it Yeah, it seems to pop up, seems to be a favorite of the Shaw Brothers Horror no.

Until Don Costcarelli.

Otherwise hard time getting some of these really yeah true.

And lastly, the only other cast crew member I have is cinematographer Chin ching Ma, who filmed Centipede Horror in nineteen eighty two.

Oh yeah, which I love, I love hate.

I have a love hate relationship with that movie.

I think a lot of people do.

I think it was my double feature pick for Bewitch years ago, but he.

Was kind of I kind of just love it.

Yeah, oh no, I love it, like, but I understand why some people are like about it, Like, I get it.

It's fine.

You know, a lot that bugged us, and I think, like that doesn't bother me.

It's just it's just kind of I don't know, like it doesn't suck me.

And I feel like it goes for the gross factor and.

That's for me.

It really does.

Like that.

That's all they're kind of delivering for me, and I'm like, I need a little more.

Yeah, that's kind of what I love about it, though.

It's just like it's just gross.

Yeah, there's not really anything else more to go on there.

It's just gross.

I respect that.

Yeah, But he also is a DP for Bastard Swordsmen films and Holy Flame of the Martial World.

Okay, for cast, we have Leanne Lou who is playing May, the woman possessed and who's causing all the killer and horror, killing and horror in this.

She acted in twelve Shaw Brothers films that I could find from nineteen eighty two to nineteen eighty five, Hell Has No Boundary being her first.

She starred as a title character in The Lady Assassin.

She was in both Bastards Swordsman movies Holy Flame of the Marshall World.

So yeah, she had a nice but short career in Shaw Brothers films because she ended up moving to Taiwan, becoming one of the most well known actresses in Chinese television, apparently one of the highest paid television actresses there currently.

She also pops up if I if I'm correct, In eight.

Diagram Pull Fighter, she does yeah.

Yeah, which I will defend as the best Chow Brothers action film in the eighties.

I will fight anybody who disagrees with me.

I love that movie.

It's I love it so much.

Best too smashing movie ever.

Oh Keith hurt.

After that, I was like, oh lord, one of the ones that I watched this year for a Child death that she's in was Opium and The Kung Fu Master, which I really liked.

You got to watch t Long get addicted to opium, so that was fun.

I did the commentary on that one.

I did, Okay, I just watched it.

I haven't watched done commentary on that one though, So it's like.

Me rambling on about the history of opium use in China and stuff.

I'm here for it.

I am here for it.

I love your like side quests into like those details.

So if I didn't have side quests, there's no way I could feel ninety minutes.

No.

I love to like your side quest into like Jade and like white Jade for Jade Tiger, so like, I get it.

I fell down a big rabbit hole area.

She's great and what I love about her, you know, sort of getting into getting back to Centipede horror, is that Hong Kong actresses, like, especially those who are in horror films, they're just built differently, you know, Like she's eaten maggots or meal worms or whatever.

In this she's I'm skipping ahead to the best part of this movie, but she's drinking out of a toilet.

She's taking a bath in the toilet water.

The fucking woman in centipede horse got centipedes coming in and out of her mouth.

I'm sorry, Jamie Lee Curtis could never like just just they're just built differently there.

Like, yeah, I don't even know if any like American actresses would would entertain this idea.

Yeah, I don't think.

I definitely, I'm just given like random horror movie person example, But like I just I love how much they just are like, oh yeah, it's fucking chove some maggots in my mouth, don't care.

Yeah, she goes for it, and it's not like you might expect like a gross looking actress to do that.

It's not you expect it, but it might be maybe more anticipated, I guess.

But she's I think, super pretty and to see her then like shove a mouth full of maggots, it's like, no, she's just going for it, like she doesn't care, she's into the role.

Yeah, it's mad res smarks for her.

Yeah, because she is, like she's the cutest possessed woman ever.

Sorry, Reagan, you're a girl new to the curb.

It's since Lene, she's she's up there.

Yeah, she's up there.

Uh.

And we also have did Derek Ye Tung Sing plays a Chung is Chung Yeah, May's boyfriend slash fiance.

And speaking of boyfriend, Derek Ye was a former boyfriend of Hong Kong actress Maggie Chung, which I read online and I was like, well, lucky you Derek Key, Oh yeah, good job.

Yeah who he acted with in the Seventh Curse.

He had a small role in that movie.

But even more interesting is that he's the younger half brother of Shaw Brothers actor David Chang, so kind of following in his brother's footsteps.

He started acting in Shaw Brothers films at age twenty.

He acted in about forty of them in a twelve year period.

Some of those included Bat Without Wings, Death Toel, Buddhist Palm, and The Sentimental Swordsman.

And he continued acting into the late nineties, but for the last twenty five years or so he's been writing, directing, and producing films in television series.

I guess his most popular directed films are probably Ian is probably not a fan, but Shinjuku Incident starring Jackie Chan or Viva Erotica in nineteen ninety six, which Kennie releases.

Yeah, it's almost certainly viv Rodica.

I think behind the camera he does pop off in Jaye Tiger too.

Yep, I will make a case for He directed a movie in nineteen eighty seven called The People's Hero or the People's Hero.

A lot of people would probably call this like a dog Day Afternoon rip off.

I watched this a couple of years ago, I think, but I gave it three and a half stars, so that to me is like something I really liked.

Yeah, three and a half's good.

Yeah, some of the other ones like that he's been in as far as acting goes outside of Shaw Brothers, like Magnificent Warriors and Seventh Curse, Like I love those, as far as Shaw Brothers goes, Black Lizard and Descendant of the Sun, the latter being like Shaw Brothers, Superman ripoff, super fun.

So I've probably mentioned it on like previous show guest episodes, But if I haven't part red.

Then we have Coup the Reporter played by Kent Tong.

This is one of his first film roles.

He started acting with some brief TV role.

He was in the Hong Kong horror Red Spell Spells Red and he had a small part in Samo Hung's Eastern Condors.

But he's still acts, but most of his recent roles are predominantly TV series.

But he has a ton of credits.

One of which is please story back when Jackie Chan was good.

Yeah, and then I have u a Hua who plays Inspector Wong.

He's another Shaw Brothers regular.

He started acting with the Shaw Brothers when he was twenty acted in roughly one hundred films with him during a twenty year period, co starring in films like Well he Started and Come Drink with Me.

That was kind of his big breakout with the studios.

He's in Killer Darts obviously, He's in The Jade Tiger.

He also had some small roles and some well known Nonshaw brother film like Rumble in the Bronx, another one that we can applaud right for Jackie Chan.

Yep, yep, he was still good then and in the.

He was married to Nie Tien, who we've talked about quite a bit.

She's kind of in the best of Shaw Brothers horrors, including Corps Media, Black Magic's one and two Hex Human Lanterns.

But they were for forty years until Law passed away in twenty eighteen.

Yeah, I think most people might know him better as Elliott Knock.

But I think besides the ones that you you mentioned, there's a couple of other Shaw brothers, like the Web of Death that I really like.

And you did the commentary on Web of Death.

Right I did.

I also did the commentary on Lady of Steel, which he shows up in.

Okay, if I remember right, the first Black Magic film.

Yes, he's definitely in Intimate Confessions of the Chinese Quarters, in which everyone should see.

Yeah, for sure, there's another one Shaw brother, one of my Shaw brothers like favorites.

It's a quite chea hung movie called Payment and Blood.

I've only seen this with a German dub like I could.

Not define, but with English subtitle.

No, no, no, no, none of that.

Like, so this is in the book, Like I had to watch this with German with a German dub, and but the plot is easy enough to figure out that I could follow what was happening.

But this is one that I really hope gets a release and restoration so I can finally like actually watch it.

Was another one he was in, Oh the Imp, which is really fun.

You mentioned that I think and then there's this other sort of gritty crime thriller called Koolie Killer that I would recommend folks check out too.

Nice any other cast members you guys want to chat about?

Wang Head and Chen.

He plays KU's boss.

He was very prolific two hundred and fifteen credits between sixty eight and ninety two.

A couple of highlights we got to mention.

Nineteen seventy four is a version of The Seven Seas.

I don't know if you guys have seen that one or not, co directed by Kois she Hung and Ernst Hoffbauer, who is a German director who exploitation exploitation fans are going to know for his work in the seventies on a bunch of softcore films like The School or Report movies.

This versions of the Seven Seas is a pretty amazing mix of seventies exploitation tropes and martial arts with lots of naked German girls in it.

And you Aha is in the lead role on that one as well.

He also shows up in Legend of the Seven Golden Vampires, the shaw Hammer co production, and it's pretty cool to see him cast side Peter Cushing.

A few other career highlights.

I have to shout out Oily Maniac anytime I can.

He shows up in that It is one of the greatest films ever made in the history of everything.

And he's in Mighty Peeking Man, the King Kong knock off that show brother has made a year later.

He's in thirty six Chamber of shall Inn, which isn't as good as eight Diagram Poll Fighter.

He's in Five Deli Venoms.

He's in Mass Avengers, He's in Corpsmania eighty one for all those busy year for the guy legendary Weapons of China.

But there's one more guy we got to talk about, and that's the Horny police Chief.

And he's played by low Yun who also starred in Hex after Hex, also made in nineteen eighty two.

And I don't know him from anything else, but I really don't.

But he has the best death seat in the movie, which I'm sure we'll talk about shortly.

Yes, and then well, it's my second favorite, because I think knows what my first favorite.

Is, of course, but yeah, we got to get to the toilet paper desk shortly.

That's a spoiler.

Oh shit.

Yeah.

But then Madam she is also played by Teresa Haping, who I don't think we mentioned earlier.

She was a big deal in Hong Kong cinema in the late fifties through the seventies, and she appeared in a lot of romance and drama films and the occasional genre picture as well.

She worked with Shaw Brothers a few times in nineteen seventies Apartment for Ladies, which is a musical comedy that was a really big hit for them at the time.

She also shows up in Ghost Eyes, which we covered.

She usually always plays like this madam kind of knowledge of person of knowledge that hold.

At this point in her career.

Yeah, like as she got older she was like the wise older lady in the genre films.

But she pops up in Big Bad Sis, which is excellent.

She pops up in Battle Wizard, pops up in Disco Bumpkins which Eric Is probably still needs to watch, Yeah, and Bloody Parrot Human Lanterns using those as well.

She worked a long time.

She kept working until after the shows closed up, and appeared in some nineties these films like Call Girl ninety two and Raped by an Angel as well as Raped by an Angel to the Uniform Fan Wow.

So there you go.

And she's also in Flashpoint, the donni Enne film from I think it's two thousand and seven, which features Donnie Ene just like punching a lot of people in the face done.

So yeah, yeah, he's good at that.

Yeah.

I had her listed on my notes too, for like her playing a mother in a couple of Cat three films, So Raped My an Angel and Love to Kill another one.

She was in.

So yeah, it's kind of surprising to see her show up in a lot of this sleazier films given that, like in the late fifties, early sixties, even into the early seventies, like she was.

I don't know if she was a list shraw material, but if she wasn't, she was close.

Yeah.

Love to see it though.

For sure.

Yeah.

Hundreds and hundreds of credits.

Cool any other cast members, No, that's all I got.

Same, let's dive in.

Yeah.

So I love how this thing starts.

You know, first off, the opening credits.

You know, I'm always so when you get green lit, bubbly slime and maggots and you know, we've always talked about, I think especially for the Ghost Eyes movie.

You know, there's kind of like this Italian horror look to a lot of a lot of these Shop Brothers horrors with lighting and this opening.

Yeah, this opening sequence, it could be confused as like a teenage mutant Ninja Turtles movie or something like an origin movements.

But it didn't make that connection.

But you're spot on, and it has like these you know, the very beginning too, when they're going to you know, I already said that they go off to a little island to celebrate May's birthday, and there's this music that's playing, these random kind of acoustic guitar inserts that sound very kind of cannibal Holocaust, rizz Ordolani, Fabio Fritze, Like you know, obviously there's there's this Italian horror inspiration vibe that I get from this from the very beginning.

Yeah, you meant you mentioned the birthday aspect, and when my wife and I watched it last night, Like if I remember correctly, the first line of dialogue in the film is in English when Shung says to me, happy birthday, and then he sounds very different for the rest of the film, and I think it was just like maybe a voice actor that they threw in there or something.

I don't know.

It doesn't.

It didn't seem to me that like it suited his voice much.

But I also know, like a lot of times, like people from Hong Kong when they speak Elishay do it with a slight British accent.

So maybe that was part of it.

Okay, that was just a little odd, little second.

I mean there's a lot of odd shit in.

This comprised almost entirely of odd shit.

Yeah.

Yeah, I can say with absolute certainty though that I mean she seems to enjoy camping.

I myself hard.

No, Like if John were to be like, I'm gonna take you camping for your birthday, I'd be.

Like, specifically ten camping, or we'd you do cabin camping.

No, I don't want to camp.

Come off, no, no camping.

I do not care for it.

And if John took me camping for my birthday, would break up with him.

You don't even know who I am, Like, don't take me out of the comfort of my home.

You'd poke them with like a marshmallow, like a s'mores marshmallow.

I can do that over my stove, like particular coat.

I can buy some moores at the grocery store.

I don't need to like, assemble it and put it over a campfire.

No, thank you, no, no no.

I almost got killed by a horde of raccoons at a campfire once.

See this is why you don't go camping.

Well, I mean, this sounds like a great story.

That's why you go camping.

How many?

How many raccoons?

I would love to hear it?

Oh?

A good dozen.

So when I when I lived in Oregon, my ex wife and I went camping in a park on the Washington Coast, beautiful, beautiful spot appropriately named Cape Disappointment, I'm not.

And after a lovely night of hanging out on the beach, we went back and we're sitting around the campfire drink It's sangria, just hanging out and we had a dog, a Chihuahua minpen mix, very tiny dog, and the dog started growling.

I was like, what's going on here?

There's something out in the woods near us.

And I was like, oh, there's a raccoon on the other side of the fire.

Okay, well it's just a raccoon, no big deal.

And then there were two raccoons, and then there were three, and they kept multiplying, and all of a sudden I realized I'm surrounded by like fifteen raccoons and the dog is not going to be any defense whatsoever because the dog is five and a half pounds.

So I throw the dog in the car.

I tell my ex, hey, throw everything in the car, just wait in the car because this is getting freaky.

And so I grabbed my fishing pole and I start like poking at the raccoons to get them to go away, and they get up on their hind legs and start hissing at me.

So I grabbed a log out of the fire that was like partially lit, and I started like pushing at them with that, hoping that would make them go away.

So I was literally running around a campfire with a flaming log in my hands, trying to get raccoons to go away because I don't want to hurt animals.

I like animals for the most part, but I also don't want a whole bunch of crazy raccoons killing my dog or trying to bite me.

So I was running around with the flaming log.

They wouldn't go away, Like, they would go into the woods a little bit, and then when I left, they would kind of come back and encroach on us.

Again.

So yeah, I told my ex.

I was like, just get in the car, keep the dog with you.

And I literally threw everything in the tent, rolled the tent up, tossed it in the back of my car and this was like, I want to say, about two or three in the morning, and drove five hours back to Portland.

From there, I had to stop and get one of those five hour energy shots from like the truck stop, which I had never had before, and those are really gross, but it did get me home.

So the moral of the story is if you go camping and Cape Disappointment, watch out for raccoons because there's a lot on them there and they're not friendly.

Yeah.

Well apparently like the first one was like the Warriors one like Clang in the Bottles.

Yes, yes, exactly exactly, I swear to God.

Like I grew up in Canada, my family has property in the northern part of Ontario on a lake and every once in a while a raccoon will walk by.

Like I'm not specifically freaked out by raccoons.

I had a family of them living under my porch when I lived in Oregon, and I was able to get rid of them pro tip vinegar that works.

I wasn't really freaked out by them, but like being surrounded by them in the middle of the night, in the middle of the woods is a different story, and it was.

It was scary.

Yeah.

I don't want to have to do that again.

So I don't think I've been camping since.

See, camping is fun, not fun.

I mean I did enjoy it prior to that.

Well, yeah, but the raccoon's ruined to see.

Something's always going to ruin your camping trip.

And it's just je cabin, a cabin stop, trying to get me a camp stop, trying to make camping happen.

Lance, we're going camping, camping.

But in a cabin.

But in a cabin because there might be raccoons outside there's but we also search the place for spiders first.

I can now picture if we have a cabin, there's a knock on the door and we would look out the cabin people and it's you know, just this darkened face with the hat and you open it up and it's raccoons in a trench coat standing up.

We're here for you.

That's That's how I'll die or or getting back to the movie, I will either die from an elevator or a falling air conditioner.

Living in New York right now, these are things that I genuinely worry about on a regular basis, So especially in the summer when everyone's got their air conditioners and their windows cranked up to eleven and as I you know, i have to walk from Grand Central Station like five blocks to the office for my job, and as I'm walking around, I'm like looking up.

Oh my god, there's a lot of air conditioners.

You could fall on me at any moment.

Yeah, that would be a phobia mine.

I mean that that is terrifying.

I've seen enough videos of like just things falling from apartments or buildings in cities like New York, Chicago, whatever.

It just constantly be like on guard about that.

But yeah, I do respect how in this movie, how no one is safe from any type of from death or any situation, because yeah, like when Chunk's just walking in an ac unit falls on and it just comes out of nowhere.

Matter respect, the reporter Coup's also shot and he's kind of taken out of the picture.

Yeah, you know, you know what I respect when me gets possessed and solves that Rubik's Cube, like a chant.

Yeah.

Well yeah, as soon as the very beginning, she's just like during the credits.

I think it's right before he says happy birthday.

Uh, I'm like, why is she There's got to be meeting here.

This is going to be brought up because she's been finagling with that Rubiks cube for a while.

Yep, there's a there's a lot of weird, kind of eighties nonsense in this movie.

Like I don't know how much attention do you guys pay to dumb shit in the background, but like that's kind of my thing, Like obviously, like the Coca Cola and sprite.

Oh hell yeah, it's is through the roof.

There's the Rubik's cube.

There's a Chung's Martini hat.

Oh, he loves John Travolta.

He's got like the John posters.

I thought I saw, like Leaf Garrett, like, there's weird posters on there.

I I spent like an hour today when I was thinking about my double feature.

I was like, what other movies featured John Travolta posters in the background on the wall.

I couldn't find any other ones.

I'm sure there's multiples out there.

There's got to be like a bad porno or something out there's a John Travolta poster in the background.

I couldn't find one, so that didn't factor to me.

It reminded me of that I wanted it to.

Is it primal rage where there's like a random Spuds Mackenzie surfing posts?

Ye?

Yeah, yeah, I'm like and I got very excited for a minute because in the scene, it's also one of my favorite things in these Hong Kong films where they call the rapist a sex maniac in the transcription.

Where in the in the apartment he's holding up those hostages, he kicks what at first I thought was thenoid.

I thought it was an inflatable nooid.

I got so excited.

I was like, oh my god, I had to rewind it.

I'm like, oh, it's actually just like a red bunny with the white face.

Yeah.

But have you guys, Have you guys heard about the story about thenoid hostage story that ultimately theoretically is rumored to cause the end of Dominoes using this as a.

Mascot that someone couldn't avoid the nooid.

No, I have not heard this story, but I hope, I hope.

I'm going to now.

Okay, let's do it.

This is this is my raccoon story.

Now I got to come up with one.

You do, okay, So for we have a lot of young listeners, so for I'm just going to give it background quick.

Thenoid was a mascot created for Domino's Pizza back in the mid to late.

Eighties, so old, I know.

And he was this creepy looking kind of like man.

I mean, he may he may not have been a man, I don't know, but he was.

It wasn't an actor.

He was usually like animated or it was like claymation, like claymation stop motion stuff.

Can we even assign a gender to the Nooid.

I think he's gender flu I would say he's male, but he could be like non binary or something.

Yeah, who knows.

He was like an alien or something.

But his job was to stop Dominoes from delivering pizzas to your house.

So Dominoes promised to have your pizza delivered to you with them thirty minutes of ordering by phone.

By the way, these things called rotary phones.

And so the slogan was avoid the Nooid, right, And there were tons of commercials even like Nintendo made a video game obviously all sorts of merchandise, which is why I got very excited when I saw this in the movie.

But it was hugely successful, profitable advertising marketing idea.

Right.

But in early nineteen eighty nine, a mentally ill man entered a Domino's Pizza right and Georgia, the US state of Georgia, with a three point fifty seven magnum and he held two employees hostage for hours because he believed that the avoid thenoid slogan was a personal attack on him.

Why because his name was Kennethnoyd oh wow, and he claimed that Domino stole his name and was making these commercials in this advertising campaign to antagonize him.

So he demanded the employees to call the head office give him one hundred thousand dollars.

When the police showed up, he asked for a limousine for Gez, a getaway car.

Obviously, it was a huge.

Standoff with thenoid and yeah, while he was demanding all this money and going back and forth with the cops.

He was there for over five hours and he got hungry, so he told the employees to make him a pizza and when he started eating, he put his is three fifty seven Magnum down and the employees were able to run away.

Yeah, the hostages ran out and he was caught.

And like months later, Domino's just killed the Wholenoid avoid the Nooid, and they claim it wasn't because of this incident, but come on, yeah, isn't that crazy?

Though?

Like I kind of dove into this, Like I mean, I'd heard about it and I was reminded of it when I saw thenoid and I was like, okay, this is please let.

That be the that's in your notes for the show.

I have the hostage.

Yeah, wow, that's funny.

When Ian brought up the whole eighties, you know, that is one of my favorite things too.

When I see these products of you know, our time popping up, I get very excited, like I want to call Sarah and be all Sarah this John Travolta on the on the World.

Well, I love that.

Just like from the get go, it sets the tone for child endangerment because you know, mey Get's possessed.

She nearly drowns a kid for stealing their cocain' spright or one of the.

Well, going back to the coke placement, they have like twelve unopened cans of coke and sprite on their blanket.

Yeah, and then they should it shows up in the like there's one shot where you're looking out of a fridge or looking at it's there, and they're sitting in another shot where they're sitting around a table and like one guy's got to coke, the other guy's got a sprite.

Like there's that could not have been an accident anymore so than like j and Beep in the gall.

It's like it's like Subway and Happy Gillmore movies or something.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, Or we could change the subject from Adam Sandler and Adulph Lungern for a second if you like, yes please, So have you seen Kindergarten Cop two?

No?

I have not, So there's a Kindergarten Cop too, and Dolph Lungern is the star and throughout the movie he keeps specifically requesting twigs bars well and he eats twist like multiple times throughout the movie.

And then I guess I'm spoiling this, so like fast forward ahead thirty seconds if you don't want me to spoil the end of Kindergarten Cops.

But there's a scene where Dolph you know, being a big, beefy muscular man is pushing like a back vending machine down a hall because guys are I think they're shooting at him or something.

It's been a while since I watched this, and I'm not going to watch it again.

And like as them snack machines getting closer and closer to the camera, the TwixT bar in the snack camera, it's like in the.

Uh, what's the the Jean Claude band, damn Dennis Rodman movie, Double Team, Double Team, and they like he uses a coke machine to like push down and block the gunfire or something like that.

Anyway, it's fantastic, Like I love I love like appliances being used like that, vending machines count to me as an appliance.

But but yeah, so child endangerment near drowning at the opening, Plus we get to the hostage situation, those kids are tied up, one of them gets like manhandled, pulled by her hair, and you know that's we haven't even gotten to May's spirit possessed spirit killing you know in the flashback yet, which is just like the ultimate child endangerment, like not even endangerment, Like it's just beyond that it's so good.

Let's just we can get right to it.

Like this, This episode, I mean is like the movie itself.

It's chaotic, we're all over the place tone stories of good.

It's great.

I love it.

Yeah.

So if we want to talk about what happens to the spirit in the past life where ultimately all these characters are connected and related in past lives during what is it the Japanese War or something.

In Japanese occupation of Hong Kong.

And so there's another connection to the last film that we covered, Sex Beyond the Grave, where it opens with really terrible assault by a Japanese soldier Philip Coe, Philip Co during like the occupation, during like their Black Christmas.

So here the flashback where we learn like where this spirit came from is that it was little girl whose family or her mother specifically sold her to some other people because they were just completely out of money.

Those people suffocated her, dissected her, stuffed her with drugs, put her like on the woman piggyback to cross the border, pretending like she was just sick.

Then when they got across the border, they open her up, take out the drugs, and then a butcher happens, or a restaurant owner happens to be walking by, sees a little girl, cuts her up and serves her as goat meet at his restaurant.

And then if we jumped to the end, she hasn't even had the end of it yet because like when she's possessed as May she gets burned to death then eaten by stray dogs.

Yeah, keep very cute stray dogs, by the way.

Worth it, though, if you can solve a Rubus cuban like twenty seconds.

I would, Yeah, I would totally take over.

I'd be possessed it.

I could do that.

That's a great party.

Did you guys notice though?

Like during the World War two flashback scene, Again, this is like my OCD about watching things in the background rather than what the central characters are doing in a movie.

So like during the Jack and Japanese occupation scene, it looks like in the background there's a Japanese soldier taking pictures of a naked woman.

You see, there's like doing like a weird orno shoot or something in the background, And then I think she might get raped off killed, raped off screen, and then she's dead.

Yeah, I think so, Like I mean, they they're definitely like groping and manhandling the attractive young women and then yeah, one of them gets pulled off to the side strips and then he starts taking photos of her.

I assumed she got raped, even though they didn't.

Surprisingly didn't show it, right, But yeah, it's it's just I think it's just one of those things that's just further emphasizing like, look, how shitty the.

Japanese are with obviously super common in my Just Shop Brothers films, but yeah, but it's funny films in general.

Men behind the Sun or something.

Yeah, and I got Men behind the Sun vibes from the Fire Vaccine because maybe that's just because I like, literally rewatched it a week ago for the first time.

I did too a couple of decades.

Did you really Yeah?

Yeah.

They had one of the actors, the guy, the guy who was holding them hostage.

There was a chow king pin.

He's the maniac in it.

So he had I mean, he had a bunch of small roles and like bangers, you know, five Deadly Venoms, five Element Ninja's crippled Avengers kid with the Golden Arm, but he's also in TF moves Men behind the Sun, so there's your connection to that.

But I think it's funny that they have this happening at the border, like, oh look, how shitty the the Japanese were When it's like these these people literally have a dead.

Child on their back.

Yeah, it's like a whole hey, look over here, look over here.

And yeah that's so that's obviously my favorite death in it because it's just the most one of the most unhinged child deaths ever.

The second favorite, though, is, of course, Inspector Hoey And you brought it up earlier.

So horny boss, cornycop boss.

Cornycop boss.

I know, I gotta let you talk about it because it's it's so good.

So May once she's possessed slash gained weird supernatural superpowers.

I love that she uses her ghost superpowers to fudge a letter of recommendation.

Oh yeah, yeah, she gets the promotion.

Yeah, she changes from like doubtful behavior to superb and I'm like, this is magic.

And then her new bosses is the horny police chief guy who cources her into going through a disco and so she's out there dancing with him and he's kind of a bit of a dick.

But then they go back to her place and he wants to get it on.

She's like, yeah, all right, we'll get it on, but you got to have a bath first, probably because like he's greasy and gross, that's what I'm thinking.

I was like, it's just into hygiene, right, that's fair fine, Yeah, spect we've all been there.

And then he gets in the bathtub and his dick gets cut off by a crab.

And then he gets out of the bathtub holding himself, blood everywhere, and then haunted toilet paper starts wrapping its way around his face and his deck.

The world's strongest toilet paper.

World's strongest, and then he's it's death by crab castration, toilet paper strangulation.

I don't know how to describe it, but it was amazing.

And if nothing else, if the rest of that movie had just been like, I don't know, Bette Midler reading the phone book, I wouldn't have cared, because that scene in and of itself makes it worth sitting through ninety minutes of nonsense.

Yeah, I love it.

Yeah, yeah, that scene is probably my favorite of the death scenes for sure, just because how it feels like, I mean, later on especially, it feels like you're you're just jumping into like a night run Elm Street dream sequence, you know, like where this inspector Hoe right now is in he's dreaming and Freddy's having a good time with him right now.

Yeah, I mean earlier you had dumb Sis and Lady Killer die in the elevator, which was I mean, good dummy drun because good yeah, good dummy drops.

So you gotta love that part of it too.

But I loved it, But I feel like it should have been a little more splattery when they drop, you know.

Yeah, I thought like limbs would fly off or something.

Yeah, it was just kind of like lying there.

I mean, especially since like they were, you know, the mean girls and like bullying her, like they they should have got I mean, obviously they're dead, so there's that, but you know a little bit, a little bit, Uh, it would have been fun if maybe like she threw up some toilet water on them too.

I don't know, like she seems to like it.

I think I think one toilet water puke regurgitation scene.

I don't know.

It might not mean After I watched this movie, I watched a YouTube documentary about Lucifer Valentine, So maybe I'm just thinking, oh, slaughter, vomit dolls.

That movie was gross and I don't need.

I don't eat any more puke in my life, especially people eating puke.

So it's it's all relative, I guess.

Yeah, yeah, And well I'm pouring it on top of your head too, Like that was She's like cool enough.

There's a lot going on in that.

There was a lot and she was kind of like eating her own vomit.

H that's not that's yea.

I can't.

I can't.

I can't abide that.

No.

I mean I the first time I watched it, I think my my jaw literally dropped.

I was like, oh, okay, wow, because like she's she's not faking it.

There literally is water that she is scooping from the toy I mean, unless like they had it like something in the toilet that we couldn't see from the angle it was shot.

Like I in my head, it's probably just a fake toilet with fake fake.

I don't know in my head, she's toilet water.

I was eighty.

I mean, it's true, yeah, probably drinking out of a toilet.

They probably are.

But bonus points also for like towards the end of the movie, where you get that weird soup with the eyeballs and the other body parts in it.

I'm pretty sure I saw a nose or two in the soup as well.

Yeah that was Inspector was it Spector Wong's or hose?

Yeah, yeah, remains yeah yeah, and then followed shortly by a weird scene with like some flaming spiked balls flying around it.

Yeah.

The ending, I mean, let's go to the final ending.

I mean like this it had.

This has a lot of the Shaw Brothers staples, which we've talked about.

The worms, the slime.

There's a lot of animal desks.

There's a two birds.

You got a chicken and then got the bird in the cage.

They got the cobra.

Maybe the dog like they they implied that he shot it in his dream when he was in the office, but I don't I didn't count that one.

There's kind of there's kind of this wizard battle at the end that's sort of in this ghost to mention that they're in.

But yeah, it turns into the ghost mention in the car.

There's the whole scene with the car where where May is like trapped in the car and the car is surrounded by like Buddhist iconography and symbols and like the hopping vampire.

Yeah, yeah, spiky notes are.

There, and there's blood everywhere.

And then it's cross cutting with the surgery.

Right too, and like in like the getting rapes and murdered in the shower.

Yeah, And that's weird because it starts off kind of humorous because it's not a rape at first.

It's just kind of like a little ass grabbing, right, and like why is that nurse's ass so exposed in the hospital.

I don't know, but it was, And I mean, I guess it's weird.

Good for him that he had a sexy nurse being like, hey, check it out, but like it's it's inappropriate to grab a nurse's ass in the hospital, of course, but I couldn't help laugh at it because it's just so ridiculous.

Yeah, and then all of a sudden, Yeah, and then all of a sudden, she's in the shower and like it suggests she's sexually assaulted before she's killed in the shower too, And that's like the most exploitative moment of the film.

I think was like I didn't see that coming because there's not there isn't really any sex at all, except for like that weird bit in the background that I mentioned with the World War two flashback, right, So you think compare that to a lot of the other Shop Brothers films where there's like, you know, they're making spells by shaving women's pubic hair off and like crazy stuff like that.

This doesn't have that.

And then it goes into like this one scene kind of out of know or with this nurse who has no character development whatsoever.

I don't even know she's named.

She's just there.

And then like she's the subject of like this completely gratuitous scene.

And it almost felt to me like the the directors, the producers or whatever, like you know what, this is going, well, but we need we need some weird sex stuff in this, and so it's kind of thrown in there at the last minute, maybe just to kind of check that box.

Yeah.

Well, what I love about that scene in particular is so he's on the surgery table and this is all happening while like the cars, like the windows are rolling up the car, the whole the car is itself is being turned into a talisman, and I fucking love it, Like I love that scene.

And then she gets out and like the you've got the eight diagram, uh like the fire fire pit thing going on.

So guy is on the surgery table and then he flat lines and the doctors just like shrug.

They're like, oh, well dead, no CPR.

And they start taking off.

And then when he comes back to life, is you know, he grabs her ass and then you have the sexual assaulting.

I didn't know.

I was like, who's assaulting her?

Like I didn't realize like he had split right.

At this point, like May is kind of splitting him through the whole evil ash evil dead thing.

Yeah, yeah, that's a comparison.

Yeah, I didn't understand.

Like what I'm like, who's she's being assaulted by?

Is like are we going into like entity territory now?

Like what's happening?

But like yeah, completely out of nowhere.

The ending is completely unhinged.

You get twins technically kind of in a way.

Maybe yeah, so, but I I love everything about this ending, about this movie, about how it just goes there.

The last twenty three aspects.

Yeah, the last twenty five minutes are just fucking nuts.

Like it's it's as soon as they do that flashback.

Seemed like as soon as that's introduced.

First off, you know, you're kind of in shock at what you just witnessed, and they don't they don't slow down, you.

Know that, they're just like just wait, like, yeah, I feel all are so like the middle stretch drags a little bit, but once you get to that that final third of the movie, it's like, yeah, I'll bets are offward.

They're just going for it.

May starts turning into trees and into doors and it's feel it feels yeah, and that whole scene, that whole little it's like a I don't know, maybe a five minute period where I don't know if it was Coup at this point or Chung where they're fighting, and yeah, it felt very like Nightmare on Elm Street dream sequence, like it was just really wild.

Well, you could also tie in the whole the whole weird bathtub seed at Nightmare Elm Street a bit too.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, the crab thing, yeah yeah.

It's it's not a it's not a Freddy Krueger fright glove, but it's a still yeah, still pitch.

I wouldn't want to be naked in the tub with one of those things.

Yeah, But does Nightmare and Elm street have a coffin full of maggots.

Yeah, Falling Yeah doesn't not have haunted toilet paper either.

Inferior, Yes, completely inferior.

It doesn't have a creepy song about poppies.

Either, that's true.

Yeah, that seems to be like, yeah, like a little throwback that because that is one of my favorite scenes in the very beginning, when May and her boyfriend are camping, she has that dream and you see that little creepy it's when the very end with the demons all no, no, no no, and like flies away.

It's great foreshadowing.

It's super super creepy.

Yeah, and that song recurs like what maybe three or four times throughout the movie, and it's like it's a pretty song, I guess, but like when you look at the lyrics, you're like, this is morbid.

Yeah, it is which the movie is.

And it works.

Yeah, it totally works with all of it.

Everything is just off the rails and over the top in this and I think this is this for me, This is definitely top five Shaw Brothers horror.

I think, yeah, it's new to me still, I'd like to do I'm going to do another rewatch and stuff like you know, they're a year late later, so but it's right away.

I was just blown away by it because it's really good.

Top five I don't know, I'd have to sit down and like make a list, and it's good.

It's really good.

It's really good.

One thing that I did notice that I thought was kind of atypical is there's there's no martial arts in it.

Not all there's a brawl, but like no one's you know, using any like kung fu moves or anything like that.

They're just kind of like shoving each other around.

It's like like a bar brawl type scene towards the end.

But yeah, no martial arts though there is a martial arts coordinator credited.

Yeah, I saw that on the HK MDB.

I was like, who's martial arts choreographer on this?

Why?

Like would they do?

I'm like, big got a paycheck?

Good for them?

Yeah.

Just one thing I want want to mention the ghost photograph.

Oh yeah, yeah, I thought this was super rad.

And have you guys seen Shutter, the tai film from two thousand and four.

No, no, okay, So it's directing I'm gonna butcher these names co directed by Banjong Piss Sanna I can't do thy names.

I'm so sorry.

Pissanthonaka Park Pum.

That's okay.

We don't have any listeners in Taiwande and Wangpum.

So there is a sequence in that film that almost directly mimics the ghost sequence from this film, and I can't imagine that they weren't influenced by it.

It would be a very strange coincidence.

There's been stranger coincidences before, of course, And like spirit photography, ghost photography, it exists in Asia just like it exists in North America.

So I guess it could be just a coincidence.

But it's so close that I feel like these guys saw this movie and and maybe can incorporate a little bit about it.

The other thing I want to mention, I don't know if either one of you tracked down the one sheet for the movie.

No, I want to throw So the one sheet for the movie is gorgeous.

It's it's May's face and a chunk's face, and the top lit in like a kind of a pinkish red with that weird like kind of ceremonial dagger.

It looks like a letter opener kind of yeah yeah, And then there's like some some kind of like goold things in the background, and like some Buddhist iconography in there that I probably I don't understand, but I ran the Chinese language one sheet through Google Translate to kind of to figure out like what it's saying, because I don't speak Chinese, and the text on the left side and the right side of the screen say a time where day and night are not distinguished, a state or yin and yang are not distinguished.

And then on the other side it says a body that doesn't distinguish between life and death, a demonic world where humans and ghosts are indistinguishable.

So distinguished shows up a lot on that one, which is kind of weird.

But yeah, the one sheet is beautiful.

I would love to own one, but I can't find one for sale for less than two hundred dollars, so I have to make do with the high rise image I downloaded off with the Internet.

We didn't talk about the bullet I thought the bullet scene was very uh you know, Ku has the fastest shutter speed ever on that camera to be able to touch some might say impossibly fast.

I kind of got like him being like a Jimmy Olsen figuring out he's Jimmy Olsen figuring out may might be Superman, and.

So that's like his whole Like, I like what you're saying there.

I'm not gonna I'm not going to break into Spin Doctors Jimmy Elson's blues.

That was actually the lance what's in your pocket right now?

Is it full of Kryptonite?

Now?

After this, I think we should do Islands in the Stream?

Do I just record it and not what we're going to close it up?

I have a spin doctor's story.

Well, okay, it doesn't directly involve the Spin Doctors.

Is really short, so Erica doesn't want to hear it, but she's gonna hear it anyway.

So when I was in high school and the spin Doctors were really popular, I had really long hair and I don't know, it was like the Lolla Fluoza era and it was cool to wear a poncho.

At least, yeah, it was cool.

I live in Areo Grand Valley.

Though I got it from Mexico, I.

Lived in Niagara Falls, Ontario.

It had nothing to do with it.

There were no Mexicans that I'm aware of.

It was just like, yeah, people who got like you know, devil sticks and hacky sacks and you should wear ponchos and yeah, and the Spin Doctors were cool, but I was never really into the Spin Doctors per se.

I was like listening to nice nails because I was edgy, but I still looked kind of like a guy who might listen to Spin Doctors.

And so anyway, I was walking down the stairs in high school one day and my friend was walking the other direction.

He's like, hey, man, you look like the singer from the Spin Doctors.

I was like shit, and I cut my hair after.

I never wore a blotcho again.

That's probably a good call.

Yeah, you can edit that out if you want.

Everyone's got to know your history, and it's fine.

I have no shame, all right with that.

Let's do double features and what's what would you pair with?

Okay, so I get to go first.

It's kindergarten cop too, No, it's not.

Parts of it reminded me of carry Yeah, I got that too.

Yeah, parts of it reminded me a fire starter.

But after like literally like kind of google searching, like some of the themes that the movie came up with, and like looking for movies that worked on a similar level.

I came up with the Zeleski's Possession maybe one, okay, because if you think about it, like both movies feature a woman kind of losing her sanity to something that's out of her control, supernatural element, I guess you could say, and both features some really over the top acting from the female leads.

Hell has no boundaries, obviously a lot less hysterical than Possession is.

But I feel like the kind of follow a similar path.

They deal with similar themes and ideas, and they both feature very attractive actresses in the lead role.

I like it.

That's good, yeah, Eric, So I'm going with another Hong Kong movie because I wanted to do like, keep with the possession theme in it.

So I'm going with a movie from nineteen eighty four called Possessed two.

I don't even know if there is a first one.

I think they just called them Possessed too, which would track for Hong Kong.

But this is about a family who moves into a new apartment because they get it for a great deal, but it turns out it's so cheap because it's haunted.

Kind of similar to Sex beyond the Grave in that way.

But the wife and daughter become possessed by the spirits of the woman named Lucy and her son who died in the nineteen fifties under kind of like fucked up circumstances, and so it has a lot more humor than Hell has no boundary, but it also has a lot more gore in nudity, so I think it kind of levels up in that respect.

I think you could go either way with like which one plays first, because they're both so unhinged, you know either way goes.

But I would go with Possessed too for a double feature?

Nice Ian?

Have you seen that one?

I have not.

I'm writing it down because it sounds like I should.

It's fun lance, what about you?

Double feature?

So a few films popped in my head.

Obviously, with the Italian lighting all the gross practical effects, I thought Luigi Kotsi's a Black Cat could just be a nice visual feast.

The wild, unhinged kind of dreamlike quality had me think of Beyond Dream Store for a bit.

Oh, just because it's complete chaos.

I can totally see that.

Yeah, But then I actually saw somebody actually recommended that as a double feature, and I don't want to steal theirs.

I steal all the time, all the time.

I lie all the time.

I steal like you gotta get you gotta like let your evil side in a little bit more lance.

Well, yeah, it can't always be me.

Well it's out there, that's beyond beyond dreams.

Door is a good one, but I Erica's sov rubks cubes.

Yeah, she's.

There's toilet paper floating around me, right, what is happening?

And I got the extra strong Sharman, so you better watch out.

I thought the same thing that Ian had just mentioned to de Paulma's carry with the child with the powers.

Obviously there's a terrible mother in both both of these, the terrible mother and the flashback for Hell has No Boundary, And I'm sticking along those lines.

And you mentioned it Firestarter nineteen eighty four.

One nice child having you know, kind of not having complete control over their powers, but still kind of getting what they want to, you know, using them to get what they want.

The scene that really did it, there's a couple of scenes in Hell Has No Boundaries that really did it for me.

May when she's drinking the puke and fighting, you know, the sister trying to exercise her Inspector Wong, her brother.

We get this close up shot of her with her hair blowing and this light shining bright behind her, and it's very kind of Drew Barrymore with kind of a stoic stare causing that death and damage.

A few times.

Yeah, that stair, that leanne loose stair.

But you mentioned those flaming maces too, and that kind of looked like those flaming balls that she controls at the end of fire Starter, and they both kind of end in this this fiery madness, this huge burning fire.

So also may like Charlie can control bullets, so may you know Charlie detonates bullets at the end and stuff.

So, yeah, fire Starter, I'm gonna I'm gonna stick with that one.

If if one of you had picked Possession of fire Starter was going to be my number two pick.

Yeah.

So I have a story about Prodigy, the band that's saying Firestarter.

I'm the fighes stat I'm just kidding.

I don't have a I don't I'm sorry, I don't have anything.

You can't you can I can make one up.

I broke up with a guy who uh said that was his favorite band.

That's I don't know.

It's a good story.

Thank you for sharing that.

Uh, anybody having other good stories they want to share.

I tried to come up with something to share, but I'm going to I'm going to be the loser.

And how much time you got?

We got the raccoons, we got the Millid hostage situation, we got spin doctors, and we got Erica breaking up with a prodigy fan.

I think I think that about covers it.

Okay, that's fair.

First off, thanks for being on s August.

Thanks for everybody for participating with our month of August.

But we're moving into September.

Yes, what's our next pick?

So next pick is one that I have had on my potentials for the podcast list for a very very long time.

And luckily this got a bluer release in a box set which I don't own, but it is on tub for the people like me who don't own the box side too.

So we are going to be covering Eloy de la Iglesias The Glass Ceiling from nineteen seventy one.

This has a lot of very apt comparisons to Rear Window.

Yeah, Lance, I'm speaking Lance's language right now, as well as a very Jollo flavored So this is about a woman named Marta who she lives with her husband Charles, on a property that's owned by Richard, who's a sculptor.

When Charles goes out of town for work, Marta becomes like a stir crazy, busybody at home and she starts to hear and see strange things and suspects that her upstairs neighbor Julia, has killed her own husband.

There's a photography element in this as well, so hence, again like the rear window aspect of it, it builds really slowly, but it never feels like it's moving slowly.

It's really interesting in that way.

So I just watched this last week when I saw it was finally on two B.

It is on the House of Psychotic Women Volume two box set.

If anybody has that and has not watched it yet, yeah, but if if you don't have the set, it's on two B and as of this recording, it has seven hundred and eighty two views on letterboxed.

So I got to it before it cracked a thousand.

Very excited about that.

It's a good film.

It's very good film.

I've never seen it.

I watched it when the box that film or the box that came out, and I don't know deliglesia is filmography, like Severan's been doing a great job and covering a lot of that stuff.

Yeah, he's true, the fact that they're they're putting it out there because until they started, you know, digging through his stuff, I really only knew him from the same film everybody else knows him from, right, Yeah, Candleman.

So it's it's cool that movie.

Yeah, it's a great movie.

Yeah, but this is Lance.

You haven't seen it.

I have not seen the glass ceiling here.

No, Okay, I'm excited for this too, like yeah, yeah, and I saw that you had you had seen this and talked about it.

But they we also Severn also put out the kin Key set, which is like his like Youth Gone Wild kind of movies.

So I haven't we have that.

I haven't watched any of those yet, so I'm going to dig into those watch that.

I'm excited to talk about this, but want to reiterate to you know what Lance said.

Thanks to everyone who participated in sh August.

I know I wasn't as active in it this month as I you know, we have been in the past, but I appreciate everyone who even if you weren't sharing in our discord, I did see a lot of people I follow on letterbox watching Shaw Brothers movies and using the Shaugust hashtag, which I feel like I should trademark at this point, like there's got to be money in it somehow, like I need a way to quit my job.

I know, I just felt like it.

I know, but I'm already like ugh, like that, Yeah, you need to trademark that shit you need there's no way to make money off of it.

It's and again to reiterate, Ian, we love having you every year.

Thank you so much for coming back and talking about this movie, sharing your stories about you.

Know, raccoons, No anytime, anytime.

I love being on here.

You guys are great.

Even the episodes I'm not on I listened to because the podcast is just a lot of fun and it's hit me to a couple of movies I've not been aware of before, which is always a treat.

That's what we want to hear.

Ian.

You run Rockshock Pop, which we've talked about every time you're here, and we love it.

Everyone should check out that.

Forum celebrating its fifteenth birthday and a couple of fifteen.

Congrats on that.

Yeah, anything and everything you love concerning music, movies, comics.

It's a it's a cool site.

Yeah, check it out because really, I'm not gonna lie.

Social media has beat the shit out of the site and it is some days challenging to keep it going.

Yeah, but I'm going to keep doing it as long as I'm having fun with it and I'm still having fun with it.

So and it's not going anywhere anytime soon.

Yeah, And that site's fun and social media is not fun.

I agree, speaking to someone who has left all the things that I can at this point.

So, but speaking of social media, where can folks find you to follow you on social media?

And me?

I mean, I'm on Twitter, rockshockpop dot com.

I just post links.

I don't interact there because it's Twitter and fuck that shit.

But blue Sky same handle Instagram Ian Jane seventy five.

That's not really a movie related.

It's mostly meat posting pictures of beers that I'm drinking or comics that I'm reading.

And your podcast, yeah podcast, Yeah.

You can do Queen'scomic Party dot com, which is the website for a comic book show in the New York City area that my friend runs that I help them with.

And my friend who does that, his name is Billy, and Billy and I do a podcast on Spotify and YouTube.

We try to do it every week, but we're a month behind because I was on vacation and he got sick.

Called the Queen's Comic Podcast because it's just two guys from Queens sitting around talking about comics they like.

It's very informal, it's banter.

If you like witty banter about comic books, then that's the show for you.

Oh yeah, and if you're not already, you can follow our podcast on Instagram at Unsung Horrors.

I'm on letterboxed at Hex Massacre.

I'm on Instagram too, x Massacre.

Yeah, I'm on both those platforms at l Shiby.

Thanks once again to Ian for joining us, and thanks everyone for listening.

We'll see you back next episode for the Glass Ceiling.

Hi great, thank you for having me.

Thanks, Thanks, bye.

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