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Welcome to another episode of Unsung Horrors, the podcast where we discuss underseen horror films, specifically those which have fewer than one thousand views on Letterboxed.

I'm Erica, I'm Lance.

Lance.

You don't sound so great.

I don't do.

I sound congested a little bit.

I feel it.

Yeah, so I do want to apologize to everybody beforehand.

I'm a little jet lagged, having just landed from a trip to the EU.

Happy to be back.

But yeah, my brain and my concentrations kind of all over the place.

So I think I'm going to be a little out of it this episode.

That's okay, this is the Erica show.

Piper is going to pipe in every now and then.

Maybe good.

She might need to fill in for me from time to time.

Yeah, I'm just a little askew, so my concentration might be a little off.

You'll be fine, Okay, We'll make it work.

I believe in you.

Thank you all right, So we are out of August.

Again, thank you everyone for participating in that, for sharing your own picks.

Thanks again to Ian for joining us last episode.

Yes, thankfully y'all didn't have to deal with the behind the scenes because we were having some serious technology issues and Ian is trooper.

Yeah, there were so many great stories being told that we had to press pause on a lot of times and that was.

Yeah, lost a lot of momentum, but we are chugging forward with Alloyd de la Iglesias The Glass Ceiling from nineteen seventy one.

As of this recording, it has eight hundred and twenty three views on Letterboxed.

It is available to watch on TB Hoopla for certain libraries, and it is also included in the House of Psychotic Women Volume two box set from Severin quick film summary, while recuperating from a broken leg, photographer LB jeffries, yes, my favorite.

Okay, okay, never mind.

Left alone by her husband who is traveling for work, Spanish housewife Marta convinces herself that her upstairs neighbor Julia, has murdered her husband Victor, whom we never meet.

After catching her in multiple lies about him coming and going, she discusses all of this with her cat Phedra, who unfortunately meets a horrific albeit thankfully offscreen end.

I think.

Meanwhile, MARTA's sculptor slash landlord Ricardo is acting suspicious as well, but that doesn't stop the cowjuice girl from trying to sleep with him.

There's a lot of cowjuice in this movie, Cowjason this unfortunately, it has to be symbolic for something, all right.

On top of all that, someone's taking pictures of Marta through her window.

It's LB Jeffries, the photographer.

Okay, So, as I mentioned, this is directed and co written by Eloyd dela Iglesia.

The letterbox slash TMDb summary of him is actually not terrible, so I am pulling directly from that here.

Delaglacia was an outspoken gay socialist filmmaker who is relatively unknown outside of Spain, despite a prolific and successful career in his native country.

I will say, I think that's changing because of the work that Severin has done.

They put out a lot of his films, which I'll get into in just a little bit.

He's best remembered for having portrayed urban marginality and the world of drugs and juvenile delinquency in the early nineteen eighties.

Part of his work is closely related to the phenomenon publicly known in Spain as Kinki films.

Not Kinki, I mean it is pronounced kinky, but it's q u i n qui.

So those films to which he contributed with several works.

His films are an example of commitment to the immediate reality.

They were made with honesty and great risk, against the conformist outlook of most movies of its time, and served as a document of the Spanish marginality of the late seventies and early eighties.

So thank you to whoever wrote that.

Yes, I love you.

Okay, So I think most folks I would say that they were probably introduced to Dela Gleacia through The Cannibal Man, which I finally just watched for the first time.

Really loved it.

Okay.

Yeah, it's my favorite of his, which I think hand is for most people.

Yeah, that was my double feature pick for pure Blood, Yes.

Yes it was.

I will say though that whenever I watch movies like that, I convince myself I could definitely get away with murder.

Yeah, I'm like my guy, like, it's so easy.

You work at a meat packing you work meat packing, planting, you could easily.

But it's so fun just watching it.

Just snowball and it just kids, so it's like, what has happened?

It come on?

But of course I was like thinking about, like who do I want to kill?

And then I remember it.

I live in twenty twenty five where there's cameras everywhere, and I could never get away with it, and nor would I ever think about actually murdering anyone, because I know this is going out into the real world.

So she has a dry erase board behind me of all these of a list people, it's.

Lots of people want yes.

I will also say that after watching that and this movie, that men would rather spray bottles of air freshener than to actually lift a finger to clean.

So Ricardo in this movie with a dead rat in the fire pile, and then this guy in the Cannibal Man, My guy like just fucking clean, get rid of the dead bodies.

Yeahs in here, let me just fucking go and buy six cans and fucking spray any bad decision.

I also years ago watched Murder in a Blue World, which is a sort of different take on clockwork.

Orange.

It has a lot of the same sensibilities of it, so I really enjoyed that one.

Rented that one from Vulcan Video, I know makes me sad.

And then I also finally watched No One Heard the Scream, which I also enjoyed very much as well.

But getting back to the films that he is probably most well known for outside of The Cannibal Man, at least in our circles, are the kinky films.

Severn has put out a release with three of them on there, which includes Navaharos fromnineteen eighty, El Pico from nineteen eighty three, and Lpico two from nineteen eighty four.

I watched the first two of those, Navajos and El Pico.

I was done a little bit like you know, King Key overloads, so I didn't watch Lpico two yet because it was also two hours long, and I was like, Okay, it's a busy month right now, so I'm like, I'm getting in as much as I can.

But it seemed to be very similar to the next one also had the same star in it, So I've enjoyed them immensely so far, and I definitely would recommend picking that up.

It's you know, three movies.

Pick it up at the sever and Black Friday sale.

If you don't have it, it'll probably be like, you know, twenty bucks or something like that for three movies.

So really enjoyed all of those.

Yeah, and there's another movie he did, Dela and Glacia Hidden Pleasures that I watched when we we we did the Sexy Cat episode and Herman Kobos was the star of that, and he's in this.

I think I talked briefly on it in that episode.

But that's another bang.

I put that up right there with like Cannibal Man, completely different.

It's kind of a heartbreaking love story of a man falling in love with a younger man and you know the hiding that goes on in that type relationship.

But very much like Glass Ceiling has a very ambiguous ending, which I really like.

And I don't know if it's something common.

I need to watch more of his movies, but I really like what he does with the endings of these type of movies.

Yeah, I'm going to skip around as far as crew goes a little bit.

I'm gonna start with the score, which is by on hell Artiaga.

He worked a lot with Paul Nashy, and Leon Kolomowsky, who we've talked about, both of whom we've talked about on many occasions on this podcast.

Artiaga has done the score for a few films that I've seen, including Frankenstein's Bloody Terra from nineteen sixty eight, The Fury of the Wolfman nineteen seventy two, Trauma nineteen seventy eight.

The last one that I have not seen.

This isn't the last film that he scored, but I want to mention is directed by Paul Nashy called The Traveler from nineteen seventy nine, and I only want to mention it because it is probably a top five all time film poster.

Yeah, the same roles.

I mean, it's got a woman bent over easer tushy and she's having someone's carve and something into it.

So it's I think it's an upside down crucifix, and so it looks like maybe it's a different mark.

Yeah, Okay, I was just seeing like a little X, but yeah, I just I had to zoom in on the tushy to see it.

So yeah, I definitely need to watch that.

Yeah, that's gonna maybe I'll add that to my either horror goes back, which we'll talk about later, or maybe transportation next year.

There shelsee.

So The Glass Ceiling was co written by Daylight I Glacia.

The other screenwriter was Antonio Foss.

He co wrote one of the films that we've covered in the past, a Henio martinz An a Candle for the Devil Jakes cinematography.

The film was shot by Francisco Fraile.

He shot a number of films that I don't really care for.

The Killer is one of thirteen from nineteen seventy three.

I think I gave that one.

Yeah, I gave that one.

Two stars is fine.

I guess Ricardo Fredo's Tragic Ceremony starring Camille Keaton from nineteen seventy two.

That's another one.

I really wanted to like it, but I gave it two and a half stars.

But for funzies, let's try, or let's listen to me, try to pronounce the Italian title for Tragic Ceremony.

Okay, estrato dagley r kivi sigretti de la polizia di una capitale europeiaecto.

I hope someone Italian is listening to that, and it is just like not approved.

No, he did shoot Leon Kolomowsky's Doctor Jekyll Versus the Werewolf in nineteen seventy two, which I did, Like, I gave that one three stars.

I mean, it's Paul Nashy.

Yeah, it's earliest.

Every time it's a there's a werewolf and Paul nashi involved.

I feel like it's automatically probably three stars.

It has to do something like offensively boring for me to drop it down.

Yeah, all right, So.

Let's get into the cast.

First, we have Carmen Sevilla.

She plays Marta.

She has over seventy film credits.

Unfortunately, I have seen very few of the films that she has been in.

But this week, like I mentioned earlier, I did watch her in No One Heard the Scream, in which she is fantastic.

I love that movie.

And I did also finally watch Beatriz from nineteen seventy six, which is the it's in the Vinegar Syndrome box set Villages of the Damned.

That's one of the three films in there.

It was okay, uh, I don't know.

I wanted to like it more.

My favorite film in there is still elbos Lobo, And I'm not just saying that because, like I wrote an essay about that movie, but I like it genuinely is my favorite movie in this set, So I'd still recommend watching Beatrice.

It's got, you know, women being driven crazy by witchcraft slash mysterious monk and weird pervy villagers kind of thing going.

I mean, there's definitely some stuff to like about it, but I definitely found myself checking my phone more than I should have been while I was watching it.

So yeah, sometimes while I was watching this, because I haven't seen i mean, other than the two de La and Glacia movie I've seen with her in its Sevilla Sevilla, she kind of gaves me.

She kind of gave me Florinda Bulcan vibe sometimes, especially in this, so I kept thinking like Footprints on the Moon and all those type of psychotic women movies.

But yeah, yeah, I thought she was a great actress.

Yeah, kind of boring.

Well, I guess I'll talk about her character a little later.

But well, I think she's meant to be that way though.

We'll talk about all right.

Then we have Dean Selmer.

He plays Ricardo not very many films, only around fifteen of them.

Most notably he was the doctor in The Blood Spattered Bride, which we covered years ago.

Oh yeah, yeah, he was also in Take a Hard Ride.

Looks like he has a small part in there.

Oh, Antonio Margaretti which I saw, which has a stacked cast, Fred Williamson, Lee van cleef Right, Jim Brown, Jim Kelly.

Yeah.

I remember being kind of let down by it because it felt like it was Margaretti be doing like an American americanized western instead of like a spaghetti western.

Even had like Jerry Goldsmith do the score, which was very weird.

Yeah, no one wants to see you americanize a spaghetti western.

No, we're not here for that.

Yeah.

I remember Lee van Cleeve's hair though, it was something that you have to watch, that you have to see to believe.

It never looked better.

I don't know.

That's that's hard to beat because I feel like he always looks good.

He does, but you know, his hair always looks a little rough.

And this is like, yeah, it's kind of the appeal.

Yeah exactly, and this is like well put together, it's just an odd lookingly.

Bankle all right, well I'll give it a chance for that reason alone, then do it all right?

Then, we have Fernando Seabrien.

He plays Carlos that is the white I'm sorry, the husband of Marta.

He's in around twenty five films, only one of which I've seen is Monty Hellman's Iguana from nineteen eighty eight.

I don't know have you seen any of his any of the films he's been in beside that one.

Tristana it's a well movie from nineteen seventy.

Yeah, this one, this one's very good.

Yeah, all right.

Then we have Patti Shephard as Julia.

She's probably the most recognizable here, at least she was for sure to me.

She's in around fifty different films.

My favorite probably going to be Slugs from nineteen eighty eight, the JP Simone classic.

I know it's not pieces, but I fucking love Slugs.

She's also in Watch Out We're Mad with Bud Spencer and Terence Hill.

She's got a small role in the Stranger and the Gunfighter with low Lay and speaking of Lee van.

Cleef, Yeah, that's a good one.

She's in the Witch's Mountain, which has a fantastic child death in it, the Werewolf versus the Vampire woman, Edge of the Axe, My dear Killer rest in pieces.

So gorgeous woman.

She's got like very much like a Barber Steele look going on for her.

She's very recognizable.

She is.

Yeah, there's a couple of really good close up scenes that I'll probably talk about in this movie, the glass ceiling of her speaking with Marta, and she reminds me.

Well, those particular scenes reminded me of or I guess I'd be more inspiration for like David Lynch's Inland Empire with Grace Zabriski, And to me, she looks like a young Grace Sabriski from like Twin Peaks and all the all the David Lynch movies.

But yeah, she's she's stunning.

She's very very beautiful.

I can see why Marta was jealous of her.

Yeah, but then there's Rosa too, Well.

There is Rosa and she is played by Emma Cohen.

Emma Cohen's interesting because I mean, I think a lot of people just recognize her, at least you know, in our circle, is being an actress.

But she was also an author, a screenwriter, and she even directed a few films herself.

But as far as acting roles goes, she was in the Cannibal Man, which we mentioned earlier, Cutthroats nine, a few Jess Franco movies, including Count Dracula and the Other Side of the Mirror.

Such a good movie.

I still it's on my list.

I'm going to get to it.

And she's also in Klomofsky's The Night of the Walking Dead.

It's gonna be a short episode today, sorry.

So the first thing I want to bring up, this movie I think I mentioned it in last episode has been on my watchless slash Potential to Cover on the podcast list for a while, and that was thanks to Kayla Janisee's book House of Psychotic Women.

Now I have the first volume, I don't have the updated one, so I do want to quickly read what she wrote about this film from that book.

All right, So she introduces a film and then says which starred Carmen Sevilla as Martha, a loyal housewife whose husband goes away on business far too often, leaving her isolated and alone with her imagination.

Her attempts to ease her boredom by being sociable are commonly misinterpreted.

A delivery boy invited up for some milk, makes a move on her, and when spurned retorts.

Don't think you're the only woman in this predicament.

There are millions of women who are bored, almost as bored as you.

Her boredom is what leads her to eavesdrop on her neighbors and speculate on what their lives are like and on what it means when she hears a loud thump in the middle of the night followed by scoreen footsteps.

When she notices the extended absence of Victor the man upstairs, she comes to the conclusion that his wife, Julie stunning euro Starlett and she said to Barber Steele look alike Patti Shephard, and an alleged lover murdered him.

She becomes obsessed with the idea, and her days are filled with trying to solve the quote mystery of Victor's disappearance.

Her only friend is the landlord slash sculptor Richard, and the fact that newbile teenager Emma Cohen keeps exposing herself to him is supposed to indicate that he's hunky.

Who proposes that she's a voyeur quote have you ever heard of voyeurism?

He asks?

Voyeurs are people who get a kick out of spine on the most intimate, the most personal secrets of other people.

And like you said, Nuping, for instance, is this instinct we all have.

Prompted by the suggestive tone of his analysis, they share an illicit kiss, which leaves Martha feeling guilty and suffering from nightmares involving grotesque images of infidelity and murder.

Even when she's absolutely convinced a murder has taken place and her life is in grave danger, she takes no steps to make herself safe.

Instead, she sits in her apartment in silence, ruminating on every accentuated sound, and she starts coming apart.

But she's not crazy.

A murder has taken place, and the murderers, including her absent husband Michael Shit, sorry spoiler, you should mention that, make every assurance that she be completely unhinged by the time it is her inevitable turn to die.

So while she's neurotic, her neurosis is fueled exclusively by external factors.

Before a murder was carried out with an earshot of her, she was bored and unspe fired, but hardly crazy.

Are you a voyear Erica?

For the most part, no, I feel like when I moved to the suburbs.

That kind of made me a little bit of one, just because you know, they're like, what's my neighbor doing the kind of thing.

It's mostly like I will spy on my across the street neighbor because I have a beef with him, and so I'm like waiting for the perfect moment to exact my revenge.

And so that's more like studying habits and like trying to figure out, like, Okay, he's home on this night's between this time and this time.

This is your cannibal man murderers?

Are you?

Yeah?

No, I'm the same way.

I think.

You know, once I bought known home and you know some homes are rented in my neighborhood.

Or yeah, I peek out through my blinds.

I've known to h I guess, as Martha says, I want to call it snoopying, I just call it interested and be in the neighborhood.

Watch.

Yeah, I'm a protector of the neighborhood.

These people I'm watching are up to bad business.

I just haven't figured it out yet.

No, but yeah, I do like the whole voyeurs and thing.

Obviously that's the rear window aspect of everything.

Jimmy Stewart had Doris Day.

But I love how Martha has phedro of the cat that she just like spouts her theories too throughout Doris Day.

Uh No, who Grace Kelly?

Yeah, James sis Grace Kelly.

Is this Wait?

You're not feeling at all?

I don't even.

Okay, I'm thinking of other.

I'm like, this is in your top four Lance, it is.

Thank you for correcting me, but my brain is all over the place.

No, that's okay.

I see.

This is how I know Lance really is not feeling well.

But he is a trooper because he is here to record because I said I can only edit tomorrow night because I got planned, So we gotta do this tonight.

You got to suck it up.

You gotta get over here.

I'm here, I'm here, and it's happening, and we're talking about Doris Day.

So you had mentioned that Karmen Sevilla as Marta wasn't that compelling or was kind of boring?

Yes?

Yeah, so I figured out well, first, the first boring character right off the bat was Ricardo or Richard.

He I did not care anything about him.

I think the English Debbie might have had it.

That does not help.

It does.

It's very monotoned.

He purposely sounds extremely lazy, like he does not want to be there and he wants to take a nap.

But as he continuously bored me, I realized, you know what, this Martha character, I do not care for her either, like along together, then I guess I do, because yeah, the whole setup.

I did enjoy the very first scene of this, which is I love the melodrama.

And you know, right off the bat, where Martha's talking to her husband who's getting ready to leave and they're joking about being unfaithful to each other, it's obviously foreshadowing, and it to me and immediately sets up that, Okay, well the husband obviously is not faithful.

It's clear his day at this point.

And I just I was just I didn't care what happened to any of the characters.

I was very interested in the Emma Cohen character Rosa.

But yeah, yeah, I did not.

Yeah, and physically it didn't help for me either.

But Richard kind of reminded me of a young Michael J.

Pollard.

Oh yeah, it just like there was something about him.

I don't know, I didn't I think that was my least favorite aspect of the characters or of the film was I wasn't drawn any of these characters at all.

Yeah, I think, I mean the main the best character in this is Phedra.

Of course, I don't think anyone would argue yeah, but I think this is I wouldn't disagree with that, but I do think it suffers from the dub, like it loses a lot.

But even if I was watching this in Spanish with subtitles, you know, Richard or Ricardo, whatever we want to do, whatever version we're watching, even if his voice just sounds bored, he still looks bored no matter what he's doing.

Like, the only amount of passion he shows in this at all is when he's like breaking his sculptures, and even.

Then, yeah, even then, it's like, like I.

Could show some anger, like better than that, I think.

I an it's a very oddcasting choice due to the fact of how his characters written of being like this Adonis, like every woman wants to be with him, and he seems to be like the perfect man, is a landlord and an artist and just the most beautiful, gorgeous man, where I'm just like, I don't see it at all.

I do think that this is an ideal setup though as far as like, okay, maybe not so much having your landlord like right there on the property, but he seems really laid back about everything.

You know, he's a sculptor, he's tending to his pigs, he's got some cute dogs, and you've only got your apartment and then one neighbor upstate.

Yeah, it's ideal situation there.

But getting back to you know, the boredom aspect of it, I think maybe, I mean I took it as especially on a rewatch, that she was intentionally being characterized that way, and that part of this was like, Okay, well we're not going to glamorize being a housewife, Like it's not like isn't it so great?

Like my husband works and I don't have to do anything where it's you know, obviously there are women out there who that's what they want and good for you, but it doesn't you know, it just shows sort of like the lack of identity that she has outside of being a housewife, Like she doesn't have anything to do.

When she tries to socialize, it turns awkward.

And I do think that you could make an argument that it is a feminist film for depicting it that way and saying like this is not you know, this is an ideal, and like when the delivery boy does say like, oh there's a you know, there's thousands or millions of women just like you, just as bored as you.

It's a comment on like this whole I don't want to get it's the patriarchy.

Like I'm not trying to get into all that, but it really does seem to be like this comment of and getting we'll get into you know, the title and breaking the glass ceiling, all that sort of thing.

I think it's all about that.

And also I think that the limited characters contribute to the lack of identity or life outside of her husband.

It's like, look how small her world is, and that like the most excitement she gets is like, oh, the bus driver is dropping off a package.

Right, or I mean she's most excited like when her husband calls or when she says or he tells her like he's coming home, and that, Yeah, that is very sad to watch.

Yeah, so yeah, the title itself, I mean, because there's Richard actually says something where he calls it the he else of lonely Wives, and I thought, oh, that's like a very apt like title as well.

I mean, the only other thing I could think of is like ratt in the Shoe, which would be a good title.

But yeah no, because I again I was trying to there's so much cow juice in this, and I was trying to figure out, like is there symbolism in it, like what does milk represent?

And there's all you know you can interpret it is mother's milk, and yeah, nurturing or whatever like in a sense.

Or but also it's something that also came up more than once throughout the movie is being called childish, like qudacting so childish, or you're being a child and like that.

One of my favorite scenes is when Emma as Rosa said, like I think Richard said, like you're being a child, and like you should be spanked or something in that weird fantasy pops up.

But there seems to be like they keep bringing up being childish, and I don't know if it's playing into Martha having this imagination like kind of being a child, but I don't know.

It kind of defeats kind of what I don't know.

Well, no, I think you're onto something because I do think that in getting back to the cowjuice, I think that the proliferation of that in this movie is not just there to upset me, but it's a comment on mother's milk and the fact that there are no children in this movie.

And if she had a child, then maybe that would be her identity too, you know.

And Julie doesn't have a child either, So it's like, you know, the House of Lonely Wives or whatever, it's not the House of Lonely mothers.

Like their identity is tied up and being a wife.

If they had a child, then their identity would just transfer to that and it would be tied up in being a mother to a child.

And so because there's a lack of children in this movie, aside from that one girl that shows up with her.

Friend Alice, Yeah, she's great.

I had that haircut?

Did you not my choice?

My mom did that to me?

Did you call your friend's mom a murderer?

I love that I.

Didn't do that now, But I think just the lack of children in this it's I think there.

I think there is something going on with that in here.

So I think it's just the sort of encompassing comment about domesticity in general and what's expected of women in that role where it's like, this is your life.

You're just a board housewife, and like doesn't that fucking suck?

Like, look how bad this is it.

It's so bad, it's going to drive you crazy.

Your husband's probably gonna cheat on you with upstairs neighbor anyway, So why even bother like settling down and getting married and having kids, Like, don't conform.

That's what I got out of it.

Yeah, that makes sense, life choices.

I just want to talk about that scene with where roses milk in the cow and start squirting the milk in her mouth.

Well, yeah, so what's her name is?

Marta is drinking milk on the cow in her in her house and then it cuts to that scene.

So it's like very cool transition.

I think the editing and this is really choppy and strange, but there are some really artsy transitions.

Yeah, I drinking the milk, the cameras looking in the glass, and that it cuts to the to Emma Cohen milking the cow back to back milk.

It's just it's too much, too chea.

And that's not it.

I mean, there's milk delivered.

There's just a lot of cowjuice going on in this and it's it's a bit overwhelming.

I feel like it it means something.

It's a bit much, I will say too, Like what what bothers me the most about that is I don't consider milk to be a refreshing drink, especially in the summer heat.

When like this is an anchor.

Man, it's gross.

I mean, I've never I grew up on whole milk, which is just gross thinking about it.

And that's what we'd have, like at the table, you know, I'd have a glass of whole milk with my supper.

Yeah, but you were inside your air conditioned home.

Yeah, absolutely, I'm here.

We're in open windows, you know, villa, and like we're drinking milk which is probably room temperature, and.

And it smells like apparently rotting flesh out there.

Yeah.

But that's another thing I think it kind of has in common with Rear Window, is that sort of oppressive summer heat, you know, where like there's a lot of commenting about the heat in this movie.

You get that in Rare Window as well.

I don't think LB.

Jeffries drinks milk and Rare Window thankfully.

Yeah, you go.

Another thing that's very rare window is Julia with that rope access bucket on the pulley where she's you know, march of things.

It's bits of her husband that are being fed to the hogs and the pigs down there.

That's like the little dog that gets its neck broken and rare window.

As I saw that, I was like, we're window.

Leo DiCaprio fucking get.

There is a lot about this that I know.

I also mentioned and then Kayla's right up.

It also mentioned we throw around the word Jallo in this, but it's very clear early on that Carlos is a cheater.

So yeah, he's going out of town.

We know a lot of rules of Jallo where it's like, okay, we meet one character.

There's a lot of like small Red Herring type characters like the bus driver and the grocery delivery guy and that clay delivery guy.

Yeah that was weird.

And so we have those who are like, you know, they could potentially be red Herrings.

And all throughout we're getting that camera shutter too.

We're getting all these pictures being taken.

So it's like somebody is following Marta and watching everybody.

Yeah, so we know, like something is, you know, wrong here.

We know that Carlos is not who he says he is early on.

But there's also a clue that you know early on that Julia is lying, and it's not just in Martha's head, because after she calls a grocery store to place in order, she walks by her refrigerator, which you know she said was broken.

And I only saw this because my subtitles were on, even though it was in English, and it said refrigerator humming.

So I was like, I couldn't even hear it, Like I rewound it and turned up the volume, and I didn't hear the refrigerator humming.

So like the subtitles gave that away to me.

Interesting, did you have subtitles on?

No?

Well I think I did.

Okay, I don't remember, guys.

That's all right, all good.

But that's another clue where it's like, okay, well, we know Julia's lying, we know the husband is lying.

So when you have two people lying, they're working.

Together, right, Yeah, you kind of put yeah two or two together pretty quick.

Yeah.

But yeah, the whole the theories that are popping into Martha's heads, I mean that led you already brought up that dream sequence, or rather the nightmare that she had that gives us a lot of foreshadowing.

But I'd loved that.

That's my favorite scene in the movie when she starts envisioning what's his name?

Victor is her husband?

Like in the refrigerator, Victor's Julia's husband, right, Yeah, Like in the refrigerator, you see the severed finger, the severed heads, like all that kind of thrown at you at once.

It's like the first kind of real element of horror that you see.

It's really jarring.

Yeah, it's just it's MARTA's crazy imagination.

Yeah, I will say I did have one question.

Was the meat that Marta cut up to feed the dogs?

You know, when she went down to go like investigate, she had to give some meat to the dogs to keep them distracted.

Was that her own meat or like that she had in the fridge or was that meat that Julia brought down to put in her fridge.

Because if not, then because you have the dogs.

Ate it, that's true.

So yeah, so she could be the one feeding the dogs.

She's a co conspiracy, she's part of all.

She's part of its Getting back to the whole theme of like, you know, boredom and domesticity, and you know, what is the glass ceiling?

What is the title?

What does it, you know, really stand for?

You know, I talked earlier about domesticity, and I think it's important to keep the filmmaker in mind here as well, because this is a film in nineteen seventy one.

I think this is his way of being critical of heteronormative relationships and patriarchy, you know, taking away a woman's identity because at this time, divorce in Spain was still not legal.

Franco didn't die until nineteen seventy five, nineteen seventy five, Yeah, and divorce didn't become legal until ten years after this was made, in nineteen eighty one.

So you know, at this point, what better way to get out of, you know, your boring marriage and get with your neighbor than murder?

Obviously it makes sense.

I mean that's the only way at that time.

Yeah, But I mean she makes a few comments Marta does at least kind of related to the title itself.

You know, when Richard invites her to go horseback riding in the country, she says, I'll substitute the ceiling for the clear sky.

So it's like clearly these four walls, well technically it's six.

We talk about, you know, floor and ceiling anyway, Yeah, you get what I'm saying.

Ceiling isn't glass either, but like the ceiling in between her and Julia, Yeah, I can see through what's happening like that.

I don't know.

I'm getting too.

I think I'm getting too.

I think it's a play on, Like she thinks she can't like it's her imagination.

It's like last ceiling.

She thinks what she's all these theories that she has, that's what she's actually seen.

Yeah, that's what it seems to be a play on.

Yeah, I think so.

But yeah, she says, you know, I'll substitute the ceiling for the clear sky.

It's like, yeah, good for you get, you know, get out of your marriage.

Ironically, Julia is the woman responsible for ruining her marriage is also her liberator in a way, she gets her out.

Yeah.

I did like that horseback riding scene because like they start playing this grand waltz music that sounds reminded very much of like a Qubric scene.

It's just so like grand and it's kind of two thousand and one Space Odyssey or like Clockwork Orange kind of a powerful scene and beautiful exterior.

I guess was shot in Madrid probably, I think I saw that that's where it was shot.

Yeah.

Those are also some of my favorite scenes, whenever they were out of her kind of confined place or so.

One other question I have before we get to double feature picks and stuff.

She doesn't Martha doesn't seem like that put off by the photos that Ricardo took, Like when she discovers his photography or his development developing room.

I guess red room.

Do you love those?

Yeah?

Duh?

What are they called dark room?

Dark room?

Jesus, Well, you're supposed to be the one who's.

Like, well he said red room.

I just thought of David Lyn Yeah.

Yeah, so yeah, Like when she goes in the dark room, she sees all these photos of her, she doesn't seem like, I don't know, like she she's kind of at that breaking point, but she's also like doesn't get confrontational about it.

I mean, maybe she's just like so broken up about what's happening, and like.

She must be jeedly she must be.

Yeah, I don't she has no reaction to anything like me right now.

Yeah, but no, Yeah, that was strange because it has all the clips and it's you know, she's realizing everything that's happening.

Yeah.

Again, it's just she's a strange character.

Yeah, because like at the very end when they get to Julia's quote unquote new house, when when her and when Carlos finally comes back and they go to the house and then Richard is there and he technically saves her life.

She she's just like, I mean, I know, she's like in a fucking daze and is like, can't even comprehend what's going on at the moment.

Yeah, but I would also be like, cool, thanks for saving me.

Hey, can we talk about the fact that you've been taking fucking photographs of me for however long?

Yeah.

I guess in her defense, like her, like we had already discussed her whole life is almost like kind of being a wife, and that was immediately taken from her.

Like there's literally brain matter on her.

So maybe she's because he got shot and had blood.

She had blood all over her.

Oh yeah, I'm like I'm just cheering it on.

Yeah.

So do you think because the movie ends with like her head in Richard's lap, and then Richard puts the gun to her head, and then he gives a look to Julia as if like there's like a triangle between the three of them going on now.

So right, like yeah, I mean my first instinct was, Okay, Richard and Julia are actually together because we find out that Julia's husband has a shitload of money, because that's what Carlos says, and but Ricardo's well off, like.

Yeah, he owns that whole thing there, like, you know, he's not doing that.

I always appreciate films that kind of put the viewer in like a choose your own adventure situation.

Yeah, I don't mind that it doesn't have like here's exactly what happened, folks, you know, but I was just curious, like what you think?

Yeah, that's and that's where I'm like, don't I don't.

No.

I'd like to think he just blows her head off, Yeah, because I think the worst of people, so I'm like, oh, yeah, he definitely blew her her brains out.

I would like to think he's just like fuck this these I need some new tenants and he blew them both away.

Oh yeah, I like that one even better.

Let's hope for that.

Because Julie's got to go.

Sorry, yeah, Julie.

She's beautiful, but you got to go.

They're both beautiful.

But you know, and where's Rosa?

She's milking the cows.

Yeah, back, she's back at the farm.

She's finding someone who appreciates her milking.

I appreciate it, kills, well, you go join her on the farm.

I don't drink milk, but I watch her milk.

All right.

That double feature pick.

Okay, obviously there's like the repulsion aspect and the rear window.

This is not my pick, but I do want to highlight a rear window inspired South African film that I watched in twenty eighteen called Number thirty seven.

I watched it at south By Southwest and the director was there.

Her name is I'll butcher.

Her name but Nocifo Dumisa, and she was there in attendance.

I was like kind of blown away by her interpretation of rear window.

Her adaptation of it lifted straight up.

I mean everything is pretty much rear window.

And I was like, this is a filmmaker I want to watch and track and she hasn't made anything else, which is mayam, but it's on too be, so I do recommend people checking that out.

Kayla Jennie brought up nineteen forty four's Gaslight is like inspiration for the New Man Drive's Wife, insane type of thriller with movies like Rosemary's Baby.

Obviously, the Glass Ceiling, I said, the Florinda Bulkan vibes really popped up.

So Footprints on the Moon I think would be kind of probably the best double feature idea that I have here.

But no, no, I read a lot of reviews and I understandably griped about this too, which is kind of the pacing and the weird, kind of the boring characters of the Glass Ceiling.

So I thought, why not throwing some fast paced, goofy comedy live and up the evening.

I'm gonna go with my favorite Joe Dante film, The Burbs.

Okay, because Tom Hanks is the Marth in this.

He believes that his neighbors are killers, keeping secrets behind their doors, bearing bodies in their backyard.

Okay, obviously way much less serious than Glass Ceiling, but it plays into the same whole type of setup.

So yeah, I'd put it on immediately after this to kind of bring anybody who was bored back to life, Okay, the Burbs.

I definitely went with something much more upbeat as well.

I didn't go full comedy, though, I will say some other thoughts, you know, Like you mentioned repulsion.

I think just any sort of like House of Psychotic Women double feature would work really well in that sense.

Like others let's go Jessica to Death, all the colors of the dark, forbidden photos of a Lady above suspicion, I think those would all work really well, especially in the whole gas lite aspect of it.

But I'm going to go with another sort of murder mystery with splashes of perversion in it, but one that's a definite crowd pleaser and we'll get some laughs out of the crowd, and just much more like upbeat to kind of bring it up after this, I know it's a little boring, so I'm gonna go with Michael Winners nineteen eighty four film Scream for Help.

This is about teenager Christy Cromwell discovering that her stepfather, Paul Fox, is trying to murder her and her mother Karen.

It's less House of Psychotic Women more Nancy Drew loses her virginity in between trying to solve a murder mystery.

So I think it balances out that way and it's a lot of fun.

Definitely great with the crowd, So good way to end it.

So this would definitely be second to wake folks up like the Urbs.

Nice.

Yeah, I miss that when it played it Tuesday research.

Yeah it was either Terri Tuesday, Weird Wednesday.

I don't remember which one.

It could have worked in either one.

Yeah, I've had this on my watch US forever.

I need to watch it.

It's fantastic.

Gives backs coming up, Yes, so maybe I'll sneak it on a category there.

There you go.

I think it would be great for that.

Speaking of which, next episode, we will have our categories which we'll talk through.

We'll have our calendar up and we'll post that in our discord first before that episode comes out, So there's an incentive for folks to join our discord to get to be in the know first of what the categories are going to be.

A lot of same categories of years past, but you know, we always mix in some new ones as we do for anyone new to Horror Gives Back.

It's our annual charity Challenge where we have a different category for each day of the month and we ask folks if you can We know times are tough right now, they're tough for both of us.

But if you can donate a dollar or more to charity per movie that you watch now, you can do that to Best Friends Animal Society, which we always set up a fundraiser.

We'll have links to that, or you can donate to a charity of your choice.

We just would love to know what that charity was so we can give it a shout out and get some more exposure for other charitable causes.

Absolutely, so, Lance, I know you don't have a pick for next.

Sadly I do not have a pick yet.

No, So I will come up with something, post it in Discord, another reason to join our discord, or maybe it's just a surprise pick.

But yeah, the jet lag and the trip and everything's kind of really kind of reset my brain, so I need to I'll find something.

Yeah, we'll post it in We'll give folks plenty of time to watch it before the episode, so we'll post it in Discord and on Instagram for folks who aren't in there, so you know ahead of time.

What it's going to be.

If you're not already, you should follow us on Instagram so you can find out what that's going to be.

We're at Unsung Horrors and you can follow me on letterbox at Instagram.

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All right, we'll see you back next episode for TBD.

Thanks mil By bye.

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Why do I always feel.

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When I'm in the show.

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