
·S23 E19
The Postal Worker Who Delivered Death
Episode Transcript
On October thirteen, twenty twenty one, Jason Schaeffer was going about his day doing his job as a United States Postal carrier in Longmont, Colorado.
The first half of his day was pretty routine.
He drove the mail truck through the residential area, stopping at each box, delivering letters and packages.
He had texted his girlfriend throughout the day, and he didn't ever mention that he had noticed anyone following him.
At twelve thirty pm, Jason stopped at what's often referred to as a cluster box or a community box.
It's one of those large metal boxes that holds the mail for multiple residents their comment and apartment complexes, and can also be seen at the entry to some pre planned housing developments.
He was on heather Hill Street, right off of Renaissance Drive, going into a housing development called Summerset Meadows in the southwestern edge of Longmont.
He got out and began opening the boxes when a woman approached and ja and handed her mail to her.
She was a resident of the development and recognized Jason as their regular mail carrier.
As she was walking back to her house, she heard a series of loud pops.
Someone had approached Jason while he was working and shot him multiple times before running away.
Speaker 2Yes, Hi, I'm at two zero zero five sicily circle.
I need an ambulance our post our post office guy was just shot.
I heard four shots and he's down.
There's effects that I'm checking on him right now.
He is breathing.
He is breathing.
Please send an Amazon may not send sending them.
I need you to answer the questions that I have.
Where is he bleeding from?
He's he's bleeding out of his mouth.
Okay, let out of his mouth.
He was shot.
Can you guys tell where he was shot?
Can you tell where he was shot?
I don't know if anybody saw it that exactly.
We saw someone run.
We heard four shots.
Okay, which way did the passion run.
Speaker 3Down?
Speaker 2Renaissance?
The south on Renaissance?
Okay?
What was that for happening?
A hoodie, blue mask, blue mask?
Yeah, I I couldn't identify him.
I just saw a backside of a man running away after four shots winning out.
Speaker 1The suspect was described as a man wearing dark clothes and a hood with a blue medical mask covering their face.
By the time a police officer arrived on the scene, Jason was dead, and investigators would quickly learn that the description of the shooter they had been given was not entirely accurate.
This is monsters.
Jason Schaeffer was born on July first, nineteen eighty eight, in Connecticut to Ernest and Lorie Shaeffer.
After about a year, his parents got divorced, and Lourie supported him by working for the United States Postal Service.
It was there that she began dating a coworker named Chris Hebert, and eventually the two got married.
Jason grew up in Deep River, a small community right on the Connecticut River.
He was described as a loving kid, it was great at sports.
After graduating from high school, he followed the family tradition and became a postal carrier and Deep River, but he longed for more adventure, so in twenty fourteen, he transferred to Colorado.
He started delivering mail in Longmont, about forty minutes north of downtown Denver.
Just like his mother, Jason met someone at work and they started dating.
Devon Shriner was born on August fourteenth, nineteen ninety five, and one source said she grew up in Florida, but she said in her police interview that she grew up near Saint Louis.
She had three sisters, and it seemed that her parents weren't together.
All of the girls lived with their mother until Devon was sixteen, when she moved out and started living with her father in Colorado.
Her younger sister, Rose Ashore, said that from that point Devon did not have a relationship with her mother or sisters for nine years.
She began working for the postal service Longmont, and there she met Jason near the end of twenty fourteen.
The couple had only been together for a few months when Devn got pregnant, and people said that they both wanted a family, so they were excited at that prospect.
Unfortunately, the relationship was just too new, and they soon realized that they disagreed on some vital issues.
Devon wanted to be a stay at home mother, but they couldn't afford to live on a single paycheck.
It was also revealed that Devin wasn't always faithful and that tension caused them to break up.
According to Devin, Jason left them when their son was six months old, but it doesn't sound that simple.
Based on the extensive journals that Jason kept, he seemed like he was someone who wrote in a journal anyway, but he also clearly documented all the interactions he had with Devn after their breakup, which didn't even seem like a solid breakup.
They continued to go back and forth between dating and broken up for years.
People close to Jason's that he tried to make things work with Devon for his son's sake, but that she was constantly cheating on him and wouldn't make compromises regarding the care of their son, which made that impossible.
His journals contradict Devon's claims on multiple levels.
In an entry dated Monday, August fifteenth, which was in twenty sixteen, he wrote that he had moved out four days prior.
Based on when they started dating and when she got pregnant, that would mean Jason moved out sixteen months after their son was born.
In that entry, he's venting about the fact that Devin had another man stay the night that soon after he had moved out.
On that same page, he detailed a physical assault committed against him by Devon the following day.
Shortly after that altercation, Devon filed for a restraining order, claiming that it was Jason who struck her and Jason was barred from going within one hundred yards, which is about ninety one and a half meters of her, which was already a problem.
They shared custody of their son, but they also worked in the same facility.
It meant that Jason was only able to work when Devon had a day off.
That seemed to be the catalyst of Devon's move north.
At some point during their co parenting struggles, Devon moved to four call Ins, about thirty miles or forty eight kilometers north of Longmont.
After she moved, she refused to give Jason her address for a while, despite her being required to.
Since they co parented, it didn't seem like she had any reason to keep her address from him since he had no history of going to her home and harassing her.
It just made co parenting more difficult, And to be fair, most of the information about Jason and Devon's history comes from Jason's side, his journal, his parents, and even Rosa, who was no fan of her sister.
But even if you take the information with a grain of salt, Devon really does seem like she was being as difficult as possible while Jason was trying to make compromises for the benefit of their son.
Devon began delivering mail out of the Loveland Post Office, which is almost dead center between Longmont and four Collins.
Their son went to daycare or preschool in Longmont, so it seemed like Devon would need to drive down there to drop him off and then go back north to the Loveland post Office.
Devin claimed that she wanted to make the restraining order permanent, but it was advised that it would make their co parenting more difficult.
Her being granted a restraining order against Jason wouldn't automatically make him lose his visitation with his son if he couldn't be near her, it would mean there would always need to be a third party to pass their child between them.
According to Devon, because of that, she decided not to seek a permanent restraining order.
It seemed like the couple struggled through their co parenting for a few years, continuing and on and off relationship.
He was at the beginning of twenty twenty when some more serious relationship drama started.
In February of twenty twenty, Jason wrote an entry in his journal that looked like a suicide note to his son.
Then He went on to write what sounded directed at Devn about the ways she had heard him.
He wrote about finding out that she was more than friends with someone named Joseph.
He also mentioned that she had been with someone named Anthony, who would later be revealed to be a man named Anthony James Ritchie who went by AJ.
In that long entry, he described Joseph as a douchebag.
Later that year, Devon kicked Joseph out and went back to dating AJ, who was married and had kids.
At the end of twenty twenty, Devin reconnected with her sisters and Rosa moved in with her at the beginning of the following year.
Through most of that year, Jason documented the problems he had communicating with Devon, as well as a few times where she failed to pick their son up from school.
In his entries, he wrote about still being in love with her up through June, but then her failure to respond to him seems to push him past his desire to be with her.
That was when Rosa entered his life.
It seemed that Rosa had met with Joseph about something, and one thing led to another and they had sex.
Rosa told Devn, and she immediately kicked her out of their apartment.
She stayed with her other sister for a few days before moving in with Jason.
You know, why not make things more complicated.
Jason and Rosa had not been together romantically before that point, but Rosa said they basically started dating the day she moved in.
She had known him since the beginning of twenty twenty one, when she reconnected with Devon, having seen him a child exchanges, and that was about it.
Jason's parents said they had told him it wasn't a good idea, but they admitted that they had never seen him happier.
Obviously, there will be people with a negative opinion of that choice, but they were both adults and they were both single, so as it may have been in an unpopular choice, it didn't make anyone deserve a death sentence.
The relationship between Jason and Rosa was what most people believed was the start of Devon's desire to kill Jason.
Investigators would later recover text messages between Devon and aj where they discuss the possibility of killing Jason.
By September of twenty twenty one, almost all of Jason's texts to Devon received no response.
They needed to bring specific supplies to their son's school for him during the COVID time period, and he texted her repeatedly about the list with no response.
She finally responded on Facebook messenger confirming that she had gotten his texts.
The following day, their son arrived at school with none of the supplies.
The behavior that Jason was experiencing from Devon caused him to talk to his lawyer about modifying their parenting agreement.
He wasn't trying to get full custody of their son, but he won wanted to have a little more time with him, and he wanted some consequences written into the agreement for the time she broke the rules of that agreement.
It sounds like Jason and Devin had a fifty to fifty split on their time, but Jason's parents said she broke the rules of the agreement all the time, things like not abiding by exchange times and locations, or providing the child with things he needed.
The only thing Jason could do about it was to contact his lawyer and good immediation, which he had to pay for, and it didn't make her change her behavior.
He wanted the parenting agreement to have set consequences written into it.
In his journal, he wrote that he wanted to make the custody split sixty forty.
It turned out that Devin had been served with paperwork regarding the modification of the parenting plan.
It's not clear what the paperwork she received said, but based on text messages she had sent, she thought Jason was trying to get full custody.
Devon, who was already seething at the thought that Jason was now living happily with her sister, was now facing the thought of having her son less, and she was not about to lose that control.
Based on text messages between Devon and aj they had talked about killing Jason for some time before Devon had received the paperwork about the parenting agreement, and even before Jason started dating Rosa.
I don't think anyone will ever know how her plan came together or what other playan she may have tried before.
On September twenty seventh, twenty twenty one, Devon was caught in an employee area of the Longmont Post Office and she was going through Jason's belongings.
Jason was out on his delivery route, so his supervisor called and asked him if he had given her permission, which he had not.
Devon was then escorted out of the building.
It doesn't seem like she suffered any consequences at that time.
People first speculated that she might have been trying to plant something incriminating in Jason's belonging, so at Jason's request, his supervisor checked and didn't find anything.
Jason's parents suggested that she might have been looking for his keys so she could get into his apartment for a variety of nefarious reasons.
Jason and Devin exchanged their son each week, and the boys stayed with each parent for a week at a time.
Jason picked up his son on October tenth, twenty twenty one, and that was the last entry in his journal, at least out of the documents.
I got it read quote picked son up at Loveland po no masks, no water bottle, said it's daddy's problem.
I asked her what they were missing in Son's bag.
She just walked away.
Son said he didn't know.
That was a Sunday, and that started the week that Jason had custody of his son.
The next day, Devin got notified that they were going to have to schedule a cord day regarding Jason's request for a change to their parenting agreement.
Wednesday the thirteenth, they got up and carried out there schedule as usual.
Jason left the apartment at seven thirty am to take his son to school and then had to work.
Rosa said that he normally does a chunk of his route in the am, then stops by his apartment to hang out with her because she worked in the afternoons.
She specified that they had left the apartment that day at ten fifty two am.
He went back to his route and she went to work at a Montassori school in Longmont.
They had texted each other back and forth throughout the day, and the last text she received from him was at eleven forty six am.
She texted back at twelve thirty, but would never receive a response.
Multiple people heard the gun shots, and a couple people witnessed it outside of the resident who called nine to one one who had been standing nearby.
Other people called to report the sounds.
Longmont police were on the scene within minutes.
The first officer on the scene saw Jason lying on the ground between the curb and his men mal truck, bleeding from his face and head.
Officers on the scene immediately started CPR and continued until the paramedics arrived, but Jason would not survive his wounds.
The witness described a man with a hoodie pulled up wearing a blue medical mask who had been standing across the street when she went to get her mail.
Once Jason was alone, that person walked up to him, fired multiple shots, and then ran away.
It was immediately determined that Jason's murder was personal.
Nothing had been stolen, not from Jason or the mail truck.
The shooter went straight up to Jason, shot him multiple times, and then ran away.
He was clearly the target.
The way he was shot also showed the attack was personal.
He was shot once in the back, and once he fell to the ground, the shooter walked closer and shot him in the face, with the bullet entering just under his left eye, and then they put the gun right near his head and shot him in the forehead.
The shot was close enough that it left stippling on his skin.
Stippling his little black dots around the bullet wound where particulates had left the barrel of the gun and hit the person's skin, causing Burns.
Investigators immediately began canvassing the area, not only looking for witnesses, but also asking for any residents who had doorbell cameras.
Investigators collected those videos and logged all of the pedestrians and vehicles that were recorded in the area and the minutes around the crime.
At the same time, other investigators were contacting Jason's family to get details about his personal life.
He was most likely that someone he knew was involved in his murder.
After informing Jason's mother about her son's death, she described the contentious relationship he had been having with Devin.
She also told them that the situation had become more complicated because Jason had recently started dating Devn's sister, Rosa.
Investigators went to them hon Assory School and spoke to Rosa's supervisor, confirming she had been at work during the time of the shooting.
Then they informed her that Jason had died.
They got some basic details about Devin, which were enough to put her at the top of the suspect list.
Once the doorbell camera footage was reviewed, they logged multiple vehicles passing by, one of which is Jason's mail truck.
There are some sedans and there a few pedestrians, but a camera picked up a person running away from the scene with a hood and a blue mask, which is clearly the shooter.
A few minutes later, another camera picked them up continuing to walk away from the direction of the shooting.
Not long after that, a black Nissan Rogue can be seen doing a U turn in a cul de sac and then driving out of the neighborhood.
The car was seen in the direction the shooter had been headed.
He was also noted that the vehicle was missing a front passenger hubcap, giving it an obvious distinction from other similar models.
Detectives had looked up Devon's information, and their interest was further peaked when they learned she owned a black Nissan Rogue.
They then searched records and found an image that had been captured by a traffic camera of her vehicle, not only showing the missing hubcap, but logging her license plate.
It was definitely her car.
So how much of a coincidence would it have been for Devon's car to be a few blocks away from where her ex boyfriend was just murdered.
It would be a pretty big coincidence, but it wouldn't be the only one.
The order that things happened was that the investigators learned about Devon and the custody issues, then learned it was Jason's week to have the boy, so they went to the school, talked to the staff, and had child Services take custody of him.
It wasn't until about five thirty pm the police first spoke to Devin.
She had actually called the police to find out what was going on, because, as she claimed, she had been getting calls in Tech about Jason.
She was told that her son was at the police station and they asked her to come in for an interview.
Speaker 3Where is my son?
He is at the police So he's not here.
Speaker 4This is the police parman.
Speaker 3He is here, Okay, Well why is he not here with me?
Speaker 5I need him to be here with me.
I haven't seen him.
I don't know what's happened.
He was taken from his school without my knowledge or consent, and I don't I don't know what's happened to his father.
Speaker 3So I need to where is he?
He needs to be here.
Speaker 6I have detect to talk to your personal exploiting.
What's going on?
Speaker 5I don't well, I don't know why he wasn't here when I got here, But he needs I need my son.
Speaker 3I am worried about my son.
Speaker 5He is five years old, and I don't think any of you have told him anything that's happened.
Speaker 4I don't even know what's happened.
Speaker 1First, it seems very much like she caught herself showing that she knew more than she should have.
She was worried, and she didn't think they had told him what happened.
Why would you suggest the police should have told your son what happened.
What do you know about what happened.
It's a strange thing to say if you have no idea what actually happened to your ex and then to jump right to a proclamation that you don't know what happened is super suspicious.
Now, as a parent, I understand being upset and not knowing where your child is, especially a five year old, But law enforcement usually won't release a child to a parent who is the suspect and the murder of the other parent.
That's understandable.
But she seems most upset that her child was taken from school and she wasn't notified.
The detective who interviewed her first tried to claim they didn't have her contact information, but her contact info would have been on file at the school, so that seems like he's feeding her a line of BS.
I believe they intentionally kept her in the dark because she was such a strong suspect at the time, and they were trying to gather as much information as they could before she found out she was being investigated.
Yeah, they brought Rosa to the police station at the same time they brought Jason's son, so they could ask them both questions about Jason and Devin's relationship.
As a witness, not a suspect, a child doesn't need parental permission to be interviewed, and though it was unlikely they would get anything useful out of a five year old, they figured it couldn't hurt.
Speaker 7I'm gonna tell you some bad news.
Your ex boyfriend.
Speaker 4What how what happened?
Speaker 3Faith?
Speaker 8Where on his postal route?
Speaker 3She was working today?
Speaker 4He doesn't?
Speaker 3Yeah, when did this happen.
Speaker 8Today?
Speaker 3It is six o'clock.
Speaker 1Her acting is terrible.
I'll give the obligatory everyone responds differently statement, But I don't think anyone would react that way to finding out their child's father was shot in the face.
Then she seems surprised that he was shot around twelve thirty and at six o'clock.
Then why what did she think the timeline should have been.
What does she think they were doing during that time?
I really wonder what's going through her head at this point in time.
She must have known she would be questioned, but I think the fact that her son was brought to the police station is throwing her for a loop.
Then the detective told her he needed to read her her rights, which I think made her panic a little more.
The police will absolutely question someone without reading them their rights.
Anyone who is speaking to a detective willing, and is not being held for any reason doesn't need to have their rights read to them.
That most commonly describes a witness.
A witness is just being questioned because they may have information that will help solve the case, but they aren't considered a suspect.
Rosa was in a different interview room at that same time, being questioned by a detective, and she never had her rights read to her.
That's because she wasn't a suspect.
She had a solid alibi and no motive.
Though Devin is under the impression that she's just coming in as a witness.
The detective is reading her her rights first, because the authorities are almost one hundred percent positive she was involved.
After her rights were read to her, the conversation went right back to whether or not she could see her son.
Speaker 3We didn't want them to you, but don't release them to me.
But you couldn't.
Nobody even told me he's whereabout?
I thought he was with his father.
Speaker 5Why she is not his Okay, then why was she here yet?
Speaker 3So she's with him, she's with my son.
Speaker 7We're all with she's being interviewed by a detective because we're not sure who she is.
Speaker 8She's my sister child here interviewed.
Speaker 6She should not be.
Speaker 9Interviewed because I didn't give consent for him to be spoken to a witness.
Speaker 10Was he there?
Speaker 4Was he in the But he's.
Speaker 8Gonna tell us about the relationship between you and his father.
Speaker 6But I don't.
Speaker 8You don't understand he's five to say.
Speaker 1I feel like her anger isn't entirely because she didn't know what had happened to her son.
She was angry because her plan to get rid of Jason and simply walk away with her son was already being disrupted.
I feel like she's extra angry because she killed Jason to get him out of the way so she could have her son one hundred percent, but she didn't even get him the same day.
She didn't get a single minute of time with her after the murder, and then she found out they were interviewing her son and then Rosa, which shows they're clearly digging into her life.
If Jason's journals along with other family members are to be believed, Devon's biggest concern was not her son.
It was Devon.
She's overly frustrated because her plan is already falling apart.
Then she gets hit with more bad news.
Speaker 7I'll pretend to know everything that happened, but there are some things that are really ken concerning me.
Speaker 8We saw your car in the area of the crime scene.
Your car was.
Speaker 7Anissan road that is missing the front passenger front up jab.
We got your conscence by reader a little while ago with with your license plate and it has that front passenger cupcat missing.
Sure enough, in the videos around the crime scene, that car is there at that front passenger bumper or popcat missing.
You said you're at work today, but your scanner goes off before the homicide and turns back on well after the homicide, and they track your scanner that's use at work to your boyfriend's house.
AJ, So that's really kind of concerned.
And we caught the shooting on one of the nast doorhial cameras went across the street.
Speaker 8So I'm really kind of concerned.
Speaker 7I know that you got served just the other day with the child custody or when you were little upset.
Speaker 8About that's your car the crime see area.
Why are you in that area of your car and why are you turning off your scanner?
Speaker 4I didn't turn off my scanner?
You did, No, I didn't.
Inspectors are here turn off my scanner?
Speaker 8You you didn't.
Speaker 7You didn't go with the scanning the scanners at your boyfriend's house or somewhere in that area, in front of it, or in a bush somewhere in that area.
Speaker 8It wasn't with you.
Speaker 6Okay.
Speaker 7They had a breadcrumb trail, a GPS and yours scanner.
Yeah, Postal inspectors are here and they said before the homicide, you're not doing anything with a scanner.
It's stationary for like three hours or more and it should be mobile because you're working.
But attach your boyfriend's house.
Speaker 8And why is your car in the crime scene area?
Speaker 6I don't.
Speaker 8We've got video of your car.
Speaker 9I don't know why it would be on camera that I my car was down there, but I don't.
Speaker 4If I don't scan.
Speaker 9Packages, then obviously I'm not doing that.
But I did stop and right, I did stop at his house for my lunch break sort of.
Speaker 1After Devin had become a suspect, investigators immediately looked at where she may have been that day.
They learned that she had been working according to her supervisors, but when they pulled up the record from her postal scanner, it showed that it had been inactive for a long period of time.
This detective repeatedly says she turned it off, but she didn't.
It was on the whole time.
It just showed that there was no activity on it for about two hours, and that inactive time was specifically around the time that Jason had been shot.
One more coincidence that Devon would need to explain, which she wouldn't.
Speaker 7They've been around it again lately, shooting anything lately.
No, So we do a gunshot resident test that can come back native.
Speaker 4Hey better.
Speaker 1This detective would eventually come in and swap her hands for gunshot residue, and I don't know what the results were.
Devin continually denied having any knowledge of why her car was seen in the area of the crime, and I don't think she realizes they're not talking about another black Nissan Rogue.
It's her car.
They got the license plate number and the matching hubcap.
It's crazy that there are people today who believe they can drive anywhere and never be caught on camera, but especially in a residential neighborhood.
I bet in a neighborhood like where the shooting happened, there isn't a block of road that isn't partially covered by a camera, be it a doorbell camera or a security camera of some sort.
To just drive your own vehicle a few blocks away from where you're going to murder someone is just wild.
I guess if criminals were smart, I wouldn't have a job.
Once Devin realized that she was a suspect based on the location of her car, she asked for a lawyer, so the detective started getting things ready to swab her for gunshot residue and take her clothes, when a postal inspector came in and asked if she would speak to him.
He made it very clear that he knew she had asked for a lawyer, and very clearly got her permission to ask her some questions.
Now, I don't think Devin understood what a postal inspector is.
A postal in inspector as a federal law enforcement agent for the postal service.
They're like a police detective, just for federal postal laws.
On top of investigating crimes involved with the mail, they also investigate crimes involving postal property and postal employees.
I think many people believe a postal inspector just deals with mail, but if someone murders a postal carrier, sets fire to a post office, or steals a postal truck, the postal inspector will investigate, just like a detective or an FBI agent.
Near the end of this interview, the inspector talked to her about gunshot residue and blood spatter, and she said, quote, so you're not just a postal inspector, at which point he showed her his ID.
Referring to just a postal inspector gives the impression that she believed his job was on a lower level than a homicide detective.
That being said, once she agreed to talk to him, he was able to get a lot more information from her.
The first detective, in my personal opinion, seemed all over the place.
He didn't keep the interview in a concise order, and he threw out a lot of irrelevant information.
The postal inspector learned that she was kind of a floating carrier who didn't have her own regular route.
She did multiple routes, covering for specific carriers when they were off.
She did route fourteen every Wednesday because that was the day the regular carrier had off.
Then he had her go over the timeline of her day.
She said she drove to the Loveland Post Office in her own car by herself, and she didn't make any stops on the way.
She said she got to work at about eight am and got the mail truck set up for her deliveries.
She said the amount of packages was light for the day.
She left the post office at ten point thirty to start her route.
She said that her boyfriend AJ lived on that route, so on Wednesdays she would stop there for lunch.
She explained that Aj lived with his ex wife and their kids, and that the ex wife was out of the house on Wednesday, so that was another reason she always went there for lunch on that day.
She said she usually gets there at about noon, but since there were less packages for that day, she got there a little early.
She went inside, claiming she left the postal scanner and her cell phone in the mail truck.
Inside they ate pizza rolls and eventually got into an argument about their relationship.
Speaker 11We've been.
Speaker 4Trying to make things work for a while and they're not working.
And we have a lot of differing views on things.
I guess, especially with his ex wife living on the.
Speaker 6Okay, I imagine that that's.
Speaker 10A big source of frustration for you.
Speaker 6Two, and for you specifically, but I kind of do any because it's a financial type thing.
Speaker 12Maybe you don't know, okay, okay?
Speaker 6And then how long do you think you guys?
Argued, I don't know.
Speaker 4I didn't really look at the time.
Speaker 6What did you do when you left his house?
Did you go with you?
You were in your postal vehicle?
Right, did you?
Guys?
What happened after that?
Speaker 9We argued for a while and then he got angry and left and I stayed.
Speaker 13In my track, and I I was very upset, So I was crying and I waited for a while until I was able to calm down.
Speaker 12What made you so upset this time as it supposed to any other times.
Speaker 6When he left worded ego, I don't know.
Speaker 1According to Devin, after arguing with Aj about their relationship, they both left the house and went their separate ways.
Devin said she then sat in her mail truck crying for a little while before continuing on her route.
It sounds like she was at AJ's house for a round two hours.
When she was done at work, she headed home, and since she didn't have her son that week, was planning to meet a friend to watch television.
She said that on her way home, she started getting texts and calls about Jason, and eventually she ended up at the police station.
The inspector asked her more questions about her car.
Devin explained that she bought her car brand new in twenty seventeen and that she was the only person who drove it or had keys to it.
She said the other key was somewhere in her apartment.
It's interesting that she was so adamant that she didn't know how her car would be in the area, but didn't leave herself any opening for the possibility that someone else took it.
She could have said she didn't know where the other key was.
Maybe Rosa had it something to add a level of doubt to the idea she had driven to Longmont, But nope, I'm the only person who drives my car and nobody else could possibly drive it.
Great, then that leaves you genius.
She also told the inspector that she had delivered newspapers for a while, which often gets done late at night, and she fell asleep at the wheel and hit a curb.
It did some damage to the front passenger side of the car, which got fixed, but she had never replaced the hub cap.
She basically reconfirmed that it was her car in the area and that she was the only one driving it.
Speaker 6When's the last time you've ever shot again before.
Speaker 8Over a year ago?
Speaker 6Okay?
And whose gun was that?
One of?
Ask how many guns does have?
Is it more than one?
You said, guns on the same.
Speaker 4Few, But they don't know how many?
Speaker 6So what kind of guns are they?
I don't know.
Speaker 4I'm not familiar with I don't know that much about them.
Speaker 6Okay, I don't know.
Speaker 12Okay, when did you guys last go shoot.
You said about it a year ago.
Speaker 4For our friendniversary.
Speaker 13Last year years for your wife friendniversary for friends?
Speaker 4Okay.
Speaker 6Do you remember what date that was then?
Speaker 4I don't.
It was the beginning of November.
Speaker 8Okay.
Speaker 6So sometime in November.
Where'd you guys go out shooting?
Speaker 12There's a place in love lunch okay, shot like a shooting range.
So you went there and you said you had done it a few times before.
Had you been with him a couple of times before?
No, I've been with an X before, with an ex boyfriend.
Speaker 6Okay.
Speaker 12Do you have your own weapons?
You don't have any guns or anything of your own.
Speaker 6Okay.
Speaker 1She's very put out about having to deal with any of this.
It seems like there are people who kill a spouse or a partner and don't understand how much that's going to affect them, Like their spouse or an ex can be shot in the face and they're just going to answer a few questions and go home.
And it's possible for that to happen when it's very clear that you weren't involved.
If you were far away in a room full of people and don't have a motive, it might be at least quicker, but most of the time, your life is going to be pretty thoroughly disrupted.
If my wife were murdered, even though I had nothing to do with it, I would still have to jump through a lot of hoops with the authorities.
I just find it fascinating how many people underestimate what a murder entails and how thorough the investigators will be.
Speaker 6Well, I'd like to know, who do you think would have done this to Jason.
Speaker 4I don't know who would have done this to Jason.
I don't know his life anymore.
I am no longer a part of it.
Speaker 9He made that perfectly clear when he decided to, for a lack of better words, sleep with my sister.
Speaker 1And that is the root of all of this.
Again, it may be frowned upon to start dating your sister's baby daddy, but for Devin, who was possessive of Jason despite not wanting to be with him, it was impossible for her to see him and her sister have any sort of happy family along with her son.
Even Rosa suspected devon had killed Jason because of his relationship with her.
Speaker 4And I don't know why.
I was just like, I feel like Devan's gonna be mad.
Speaker 14And she's gonna try to do something.
If I'm being honest, that's what I thought.
Can you tell me more about what maybe made you think that?
Because she's a horrible person.
Speaker 1Since Aj had come up repeatedly in the investigator's interviews, they went to his house and spoke to him.
Aj Ritchie was a corrections officer at Federal Correctional Institute Englewood in Denver.
He and Devon had known each other for twelve or thirteen years, and the status of their relationship was a big question.
Were they dating like Devon had stayedd and had she spent the two hours her postal scanner was inactive at his house.
When they got to his house, they learned that he lived there with his children and his wife, not his ex wife.
They were still married and his wife was pregnant.
As far as his wife, Elise believed Aj and Devon were just friends and Devon wanted to be in a relationship with him, But of course her husband was saying, no, how do you know her?
Speaker 15He said, you've known her for about thirteen years.
Speaker 16Yeah, so we've been friends for thirteen years coming over the last year.
Speaker 17So it hasn't been a very good friendship.
Speaker 15Okay, but that's.
Speaker 6How I know her.
Speaker 15Okay, So what do you mean I'm in a good friendship over the last.
Speaker 16Year, she she definitely made it pretty clear that she liked me more than I liked her.
Speaker 15Okay, And I'm married, so okay.
Speaker 17We kind of separated a bit.
We still talk.
Okay, we talked today.
I have a pretty good idea what this is about.
Speaker 15Because when did when did you talk to her?
Speaker 4Uh?
Speaker 17Apparently when she was driving to the police station.
Speaker 15So this afternoon.
Did you talk to her any other time today?
Speaker 17No?
Speaker 15Okay?
Were you home today or were you working?
Or okay?
Did she stop by her?
Speaker 6Uh?
Speaker 17She delivers mail out here?
Speaker 15Okay, so she delivers mail to your house.
Do you know about what time she delivered the mail.
Speaker 17I don't know.
She usually delivers new and one o'clock.
Speaker 18I think new in her one yeah, okay.
Do you know what she drives when she's delivered mail.
It's a mail truck.
It's a mail truck.
Yeah, okay, Okay, Now when when she delivered mail to did you talk to her at all?
Speaker 15Okay?
So you didn't.
Speaker 18You didn't see her all the day until she called right right, okay, But she didn't stop by and talk to you or anytime before she was driving to the police station.
Speaker 17Well, we we talked briefly today.
Speaker 16It wasn't a good conversation, and I told her that I wasn't happy.
Speaker 17Did she come to spy?
I think she wants to bos leaves on a little bit.
I thought I didn't want her here, okay.
Speaker 15So she was here or that was only here?
She was here?
What time was she here?
My wife?
Speaker 17And heard only the long so okay, uh, eleven.
Speaker 19Eleven something to probably about twelve fifteen, twelve, okay, yeah, and then I left and went to get food.
Speaker 15Okay, So she was here from eleven to twelve fifteen?
Speaker 6Yeah.
Speaker 18And then so why while she was here, what did you guys talk about?
She wants a relationship with me, kay, I don't want a relationship with her, okay.
Speaker 1So most of that was a lie.
Based on the letters he wrote to Devon as well as her son, he was in love with Devon, and he wrote things to her son that made it seem like he was going to be a father figure in his life.
He wrote about taking the boy to see his sister in mama's belly, and he's referring to the child his wife is pregnant with.
It's truly awful.
It seemed as though Aj was living a double life.
One is a husband and father with another baby on the way, and the other is Devon's boyfriend and the stepfather to her son, and Devin was well aware of it.
During that interview, he told detectives that he had been home all morning and after he got in a fight with Devon, he left it about twelve fifteen and met some friends at Hooters.
When they got surveillance footage from the restaurant, he was seen sitting at a table with a few other guys at about twelve thirty, so he couldn't have been the shooter.
Still, investigators weren't convinced he wasn't involved.
That's when they pulled the cell phone records for both Devon and AJ.
Those would end up completely contradicting ajs story.
The GPS activity showed that they were both at Devon's apartment first thing in the morning.
They traveled together to the Loveland post Office, where their GPS activity split.
Devon was at the post office for a while and then she clearly began her postal route.
Aj, on the other hand, drove directly to Longmont and started driving around the area of Jason's postal route.
When they overlaid his route with AJ's GPS activity, they were a perfect match.
Aj had been following Jason on his route.
Devin's cell phone remained stationary at AJ's house starting at about eleven AM, but AJ wasn't there.
He was in Longmont, so couldn't have been having lunch with him.
Then at noon, AJ's GPS showed him rush to Loveland and arrive at Hooters, were he's seen on camera.
When investigators went back to the neighborhood cameras near the crime scene, they found the shots that picked up Jason's mail truck and they saw black SUV with a rideshare logo on it following him.
Then they got information from AJ's employer that they had a contract with that rideshare service for their employees and Aj was actually the coordinator of the prison's ride share program.
How convenient, investigators returned to AJ's house and asked if they could take his phone, and he agreed.
They didn't ask him any questions about his whereabouts that morning, and they didn't mention his GPS activity he was on his phone.
They found text messages between Devin and AJ that showed they were clearly more than friends.
They included statements like I love you and You're my entire world.
Then they found two photos on the device that would be even more incriminating to Devon than her car being in the area.
The first was a selfie of a person wearing the exact same disguise that the shooter had been recorded wearing.
The next one, taken a few minutes later in the same place with the same phone, was Devon.
Those selfies had been taken on October eleventh, two days before the murder.
Investigators recreated the footage of the shooter running away with a female officer who was five foot five inches or one hundred and sixty five centimeters, the same height as Devon.
When they compared the height to the postal truck she was running from, it was an exact match.
It was clear that Devon had been the one who had shot Jason.
She was under arrest, but they knew she had not acted alone.
AJ had followed Jason that morning, and he had a picture of her in her disguise on his phone.
The murder had clearly been pre planned and AJ had full knowledge of it.
When investigators looked firm They're back at their text messages, they found a number of them that directly mentioned killing both Jason and Rosa.
One read quote, he's horrible.
He will get what's coming to him.
In another text, AJ suggested quote you could just kill them both.
In one message, AJ wrote quote, thought we were talking about ending Rosa and Jason.
Those messages started in July, three months before Jason had requested a modification to their parenting agreement.
That is why the primary motive for the murder is believed to be jealousy over Jason and Rosa's relationship.
The email about a court day to modify the parenting agreement was likely the final push to get an already existing plan into action, as if the evidence against the two wasn't enough.
Investigators found that they had been on the phone with each other for almost two hours and forty five minutes.
While AJ was following Jason, he was actively keeping her informed about exactly where Jason was that morning.
Then they found that he had searched for information about postal scanners online.
That was clearly an attempt to use the device as in alibi for the time Devon had gone up to Longmont to kill Jason.
On October nineteenth, a police detective and a postal inspector went to the prison where Aj worked and interviewed him.
Right off the bad Aj admitted that he was actually in a romantic relationship with Devon.
He said he confessed to the affair with his wife the day after the murder, and they were currently sleeping in separate areas of the house.
He would eventually tell the investigator that this wasn't his first affair, but it was the first time he was caught, so a real winner.
They showed him the pictures of Devon's car in the area, along with the times which were the same times that Aj had claimed she was with him at his house.
Speaker 10She was before that.
Speaker 16She came over to my house after I was dumb with hitters for about ten minutes.
Speaker 19For about seven minutes.
What happened when she got there?
She had stopped, he's the bathroom.
Speaker 10Got some water.
Did she leave anything nothing at all?
Speaker 6No, not.
Speaker 10Did she change clothes?
She was what she was.
Speaker 16Not specifically, I think I told you that night was a fair of pants.
Speaker 8And a t shirt.
Speaker 10Okay, I think the pants were dark, but on what the tea shirt was okay.
Speaker 1AJ's story then was that he had stayed the night at Devon's house, having told his wife that he was working a night shift.
He said they left her apartment between seven thirty and eight.
Devon went to work and he went home.
Conveniently, his wife had already left the house with the kids, so she wouldn't be able to confirm if that was true.
Then he spent the morning driving around talking to her on the phone.
He wouldn't tell the investigators where he was driving, but he said he drove around until he headed to Hooters.
After Hooters, he went home, and Devin stopped by after to use the bathroom, then continued on her route.
Speaker 11Did you did you drop her off your work?
You did that morning?
Speaker 6Okay?
Speaker 11Do you dropped her off at the.
Speaker 20Fig You said you didn't want to ask to answer questions about where you went that day.
Speaker 11That's why I'm just asking if she dropped her off for work?
Speaker 2Okay.
Speaker 11So on the morning he was thirteenth, you dropped her off at the post office?
Speaker 10Okay?
Speaker 11Did she ever bring her car over your house?
After that?
Speaker 15Her car was parked by.
Speaker 20It was right up the road from the house, and her car's over her cars parked up the road from your house.
Speaker 11You had taken her to work?
Speaker 6Okay?
How did so?
Speaker 20Did you have to pick her back up from work afterwards so she could get her car?
Yes, okay, I'm asking it just because I you know, I obviously you need to figure got a way to get back home after that?
Speaker 11Does that make sense?
Speaker 1So he's basically filling in a huge blank for the investigators.
How did Devin get from his house to Longmont and back?
And it's because her car was parked near his house.
So not only was her car recorded in the area of the murder at the time of the murderer, her postal scanner was inactive for the time around the shooting at AJ's house, where she had access to her car.
You couldn't lay out how the crime happened any better.
Of course, AJ was still trying to make himself seem uninvolved, but that didn't last long.
Speaker 10Did you pick did you take her to work in your truck?
Speaker 6Transfer?
Speaker 10And what's that we get cars from working?
Speaker 8Okay?
Speaker 10What do you know what kind of car was?
Speaker 6Oh?
Speaker 20I saw it on the way and those they had like to something logo on the side one of those things.
Speaker 11Okay, how did those?
How do those work into the facility?
How do you how do you get one of those?
Speaker 16We just you have to be part of the Namhill program and then we're loan him out to us and we drive them and then the bureau pays money.
Speaker 19To basically subsidize it.
Okay, So you're in a when you were driving around, were you talking on the phone?
Were your truck or were you in Durango?
And then I and then my truck when I switched my truck.
Speaker 10Later on the day to get your kids and stuff.
Speaker 19Yeah, and also I switched it with another guy he drives it then okay.
And then when you dropped her you said he dropped her off at the post office?
Was that that was in the Durango as well?
Speaker 4Right?
Speaker 6Okay, do you.
Speaker 11Have any idea with that picture is right there?
Speaker 17It's like, as so those are.
Speaker 20Phone signals coming from your phone down in the Longmont area, in the same neighborhood as a shooting with location information for the male man who was shot that morning.
All right, we know that you were in Longmont that morning, and I'm not asking that because of you.
I'm just asking that to further verify whether or not you had any idea where Devon was at that time.
You've already told me that you weren't with Devon in twelve fifteen like you had previously told us.
All right, So the reason I'm showing you this is because we can show that you weren't with Devons and you can't obviously verify where she was.
Speaker 21Right, what else did you gonna show?
You got nothing to say about this that's off your.
Speaker 20Phone two days before this happened.
Can you explain that you're a smart guy.
I think you know where we're going with this.
So if you want to give a sanwchs, now's the time to give them to us.
Speaker 1So this is his explanation.
Now.
Speaker 11This morning she told me that she was going to do it.
Speaker 19She told me that she had already had everything that she needed to make it happen.
Speaker 15I tried to talk her.
Speaker 16Out of it, that she wanted to learn and told me that there was no talking about So after talking to her, and she's mentioned it in the past, and she has talked.
Speaker 10About his route because she was a lot more routes.
Speaker 11So I went out there I knew his route number.
I found him, and I continued sand the.
Speaker 19Phone with her and trying to tell her, trying to talk around with it.
Speaker 10But I thought that she was going to.
Speaker 16Be with her a lot, and I thought that if I would see her, I could stop her.
She kept talking to me and never showed up there.
I guess she was casing at the time.
Speaker 11So eventually she told.
Speaker 17Me, you know what, don't worry about it.
Speaker 6But I didn't do it.
It's fine.
Speaker 10You go back to her and channel the phone FA.
Speaker 16At that point in time, I stopped over at his truck and I told him that he should watch out for her, because I think he was just planning something.
He I don't think he remembered who I was, because he said, what.
Speaker 10He just left me and thats what?
Speaker 16And I was like that, and I said, she's unstable right now, and I think that she's gonna do.
Speaker 10Something, and he.
Speaker 11Said, I'm not scared of that bitch, and I.
Speaker 17Said, okay, okay.
Speaker 10I at that time, I drove.
Speaker 1That conversation never happened.
He said he talked to Jason right before noon.
Then he swapped out the ride share with an employee who also used it and went to Hooters in his truck.
He told the investigators that the picture of her in the disguise was when she first told him she was going to kill Jason, and he attempted to talk her out of it.
Then the detective asked him why there were no text messages from him, even suggesting she shouldn't do anything to her Jason, and AJ said it's because she only ever mentioned killing him in person.
He claim it never came up in texts, which investigators know is a lie.
They have the texts.
AJ was adamant that he was not okay with her killing Jason, and he tried to talk her out of it.
Yet his texts that say quote you could just kill them both says otherwise, and then he lied through his teeth about where Devin was on the day of the shooting.
When he was first questioned, he absolutely knew exactly what Devin was going to do.
He had texted her about it months prior.
He knew she add a disguise, and he helped her commit the crime.
The investigator asked him where Devin got the gun she used, and he claimed he didn't know.
The gun used in the murder was never found and it's believed that he had supplied her with the weapon, but that's never been proven.
What investigators believed happened was that Devon parked her car near AJ's house.
On the evening of October twelfth, twenty twenty one.
AJ told his wife he had a night shift at the prison, and he drove to Devon's apartment, where they spent the night.
That was all pre planning for the murder, which AJ would have known about.
He was using the ride share vehicle during that time, and the following morning, he dropped Devon off at work and headed down to Longmont to tail Jason.
AJ was able to keep an eye on exactly where Jason was while Devon worked her mail route in the morning, building her alibi.
At about eleven am, Devn stopped at AJ's house, left her phone in the mail truck, changed into the disguise, and took her car to Longmont.
That's when Aj left Longmont, swapped out the rideshare vehicle and drove his truck to Hooters, being caught on camera.
To give himself an alibi, Devin parked a few blocks from where Jason was and walked to the Cluster mailbox, where she waited for him to arrive.
When Jason was alone, she shot him, ran to her car, and drove back to AJ's house.
She removed her disguise, got back in the mail truck, and finished her route.
When she was done working, AJ picked her up from the Loveland Post Office and dropped her off at her car.
Devon likely believed she would be notified about Jason's death, pick up her son, and live happily ever after, but she was immediately a suspect and she would never see her son again.
It seemed that AJ thought he might be questioned having been her alibi, but then he would be free and clear, which is why he took his phone with him while he tailed Jason.
Seven days after the murderer, Devon was on a recorded video call from jail.
Talk can do a previous boyfriend named Joseph Castanada.
He was the ex boyfriend that Rosa had slept with, which a bat her kicked out of her apartment.
It sounds like they're back together, as there's a lot of I love yous, but Joseph is the one who informs her of AJ's arrest.
Speaker 22There's more news today.
Speaker 17What happened Aj?
Speaker 22It's telling them everything as well as they found a picture of.
Speaker 6You in the outfit.
Speaker 4What did he say that.
Speaker 22He tried to talk you down, and this had been going on for a while, and he tried to warn Jason.
What else, Well, he decided the picture of you in the same outfit that happened that day.
He's also stating that he said today the day, and you have everything you need on the day when he dropped you off to work.
Interesting, did he do like a news article on it or what he got arrested?
Speaker 4Well?
Speaker 6No, I know that, but and that's what his.
Speaker 17He told the police.
Speaker 4Huh.
Speaker 22Interesting, he's being held for complicity.
Speaker 1I don't know what Devin does to win the loyalty of these men.
Is it just the possibility of sex?
Because she doesn't seem to have a personality that would make her desirable to most guys.
I know, even ignoring anything said about her Jason's journals and basing her personality on just her police interview, She's got to be one of the most entitled, selfish, annoying people I've ever experienced.
It's clear after watching the entire call that Devin is just using Joseph to try to keep custody of Jason's son away from his parents.
It's just another level of what an absolute garbage person Devin is.
Despite all of the evidence against her, Devin pleaded not guilty and went to trial.
Her defense was that there was no evidence that proved she committed the murder.
It didn't matter though.
The jury couldn't accept all of the coincidences.
Her car, her absence from the mail route, her picture wearing the exact same clothing as the person running from the scene, the text messages ahead of time threatening to kill Jason, and AJ's story were not a coincidence.
Devon was found guilty of first degree murder and sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole.
She been the rest of her life in prison.
Aj also pleaded not guilty, but didn't fare any better at trial.
He was found guilty of the same crime and also sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole.
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The identity of Jason's son has been redacted from all files, and even if it were available somewhere, maybe on the Internet or say the Longmont Police Department missed his name a few times when they redacted the files.
Speaker 10Oops.
Speaker 1I don't feel comfortable giving his name here.
The lack of information about him has also made it hard to find out who got custody of him.
I also received a recorded interview the police conducted with Jason's mother and stepfather a few days after his murder when they flew in from Connecticut, and I also don't feel comfortable including any of that footage.
But they did mention that Rosa was filling out paperwork to get custody of Jason's son.
They said they were also going to file for custody.
They agree that Rosa loved him, but she was only nineteen and they didn't think she would be able to afford to raise a child based on the video called Devin had with Joseph, it sounds like he was getting himself into a position to fight them for custody.
I don't know who eventually won or where the boy ended up personally, I think that when one parent murders the other parent and ends up in prison, the family of the murdered parent should have first priority to custody over the child.
I mean, the child could go to the perpetrator's family, but at the end of the day, they raised a murderer.
So what are your thoughts on child custody when one parent murders the other.
Leave your thoughts in the comments.
At the end of the day, Devin thought she was going to get her son's father out of her life and have the boy all to herself, when in the end she just removed herself from his life as well.
Then aj made his own children fatherless by helping a woman he was having an affair with murder her ex These are adults who believed that executing someone was the best solution to their problem, and they weren't even right about the problem.
Jason wasn't filing for full custody.
Fortunately, they weren't smart enough to carry out the crime without leaving evidence all over the place, and now they're locked up for the rest of their lives, which is where they should be because their ability to just kill someone over petty disagreements makes them complete monsters.
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