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Episode #112 - Breaking Free from the Masculine Matrix | Egan Sanders on Conscious Power

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Speaker 1

My mother was very strong willed.

She was dominant.

My stepfather, who raised me since I was age of three, was more passive.

So I had this weird dynamic of a strong woman she had.

She was very ahead of her time.

She ran her own business in the nineteen sixty So one day she says to me, why didn't you vote for Kamala Harris?

Are you racist?

And I'm like, no, said I just didn't like our bolicies.

So that thing has been used a lot to divide people.

But the weird thing is it's all in the media.

But if you go around regular people, everybody's getting along.

We rarely have a racial incident.

I live in Jacksonville.

Speaker 2

If you get maybe five compliments in a week, you've gotten a loted I would say that most men probably get maybe ten compliments a year.

Speaker 3

Right, seriously, yeah, you.

Speaker 1

Get five compliments in a lifetime.

Right.

When people lost connection with their spiritual connections, or like I don't feel the power anymore, I don't know who I am.

Maybe this guy can help me.

So they created priests who say, well, I'll be the intermediary.

I have a connection with spirit.

I'm a king, I'm a priest.

Come and do what I say, and I'll give you some of that connection.

And so that's what create all the intermediaries.

Now we're saying we don't need these intermediaries.

We don't need we can have our own connection with spirit.

Speaker 2

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What does it really mean to be a conscious man in today's world?

A world where hustle culture burns us out and where sensitivity is often mistaken for weakness.

Hello, friends, Welcome to the Conscious Man's seven Podcasts.

I am your host, Todd Gave.

Today we're joined by a man who's been helping others master their mind, energy, and emotions for over three decades.

Egan Sanders, a men's enlightenment coach whose mission is to help conscious men break free of the matrix without losing their soul.

We'll dive into how men can embody true power that is conscious, compassionate, and soul aligned, how to thrive without burnout, and why the old models of masculinity are crumbling before our eyes.

But here's the part most people avoid, talking about the hidden shame, confusion, and spiritual exhaustion that so many men carry silently while pretending to have it all together.

Session is going to challenge beliefs, ignite clerty.

I may even change the way you define power itself.

Speaker 4

When truth is blurred by lies and misinformation, perception becomes reality.

What will you perceive your reality to be?

Liberate your fears and walk with.

Speaker 3

Me, sit down and meditate, connect with your.

Speaker 1

Son, be a monster, and then learn how to control it.

Speaker 5

You've got to be willing to do the work.

Speaker 2

So it really goes really deep in terms of words and amology and what they mean.

So this is why it is really hard to really crack nature because there's so many levels and layers to it.

Speaker 3

You know.

Speaker 2

Hello Egan, Welcome to the Conscious Man seven Podcasts.

Speaker 3

How are you today?

Speaker 1

I'm great?

Thank you for having me here, having this forum.

Speaker 2

Yes, I'm looking forward to talking to you today because, you know, as we were speaking off camera, I find that in recent times I should say that, or I should say in modern times better.

We don't really have a lot of spaces where men can actually talk about what it is to be a man, what masculinity looks like.

You know, we don't have a lot of like role models.

We don't have a lot of people we can look up to to say, oh, that's an example of how a man should be.

And I find that we have a lot of a feminization of our culture, our society.

And what's happened is that we've swung so far to the other side of the pendulin that we've gone from one extreme to the next where we had the suppression of I guess you could say the feminine, and now we're having the suppression in the masculine.

And with my show and the conversations that I have, I'm trying to bring that pensulum a little more back in the center so that we can have balance.

So, you know, conversations like this I think are quite important.

And yeah, I'm looking forward to talking to you today to you know, learn a little bit more on your perspective, and you're a little bit older than me, so to learn a little bit from you as well myself, you know, because I do have my own views and ideas.

Speaker 1

But I.

Speaker 2

Try to be as open minded as possible because that is the only way you can actually truly learn and truly grow and not have yourself pigeonholed into an idea or belief, because then that becomes a religion, and religions are the worst thing that's ever been invented for mankind.

So I try my best to, you know, stay as open minded as possible and challenge even my own self in what I believe and think.

And that's the only way you can get to truth, because truth doesn't mind to be challenged.

And if you can't challenge yourself, like I say, you're stuck in religion.

So let's dive in.

So you've been guiding people for over thirty years.

What first walk you up to the path of men's enlightenment and energy mastery?

Speaker 1

Ooh?

If I go way way back to the real beginning awakening.

When I was a little kid, I started to recall past lives.

This is one of my abilities when I work with people is that I can meet somebody and if whatever their current issue relates to a past life or a pattern, I can start seeing it.

Back when I was a little kid, I started get memories.

One was I was living as a Native American in the American southwestern Arizona, and I started to describe the kiva and my ceremony.

My father chief underground and I was little underground and we were doing the ceremonies, and I was five years old, and my grandmother kept on saying and then what happened?

And I and I kept on talking in this voice very serious, and then after like twenty minutes, I said, and that's it.

And then I went back to talking like a little kid.

So they knew that there was something unusual about me.

I was strange then and continue to be strange until my current time.

So I had that ability, and I would kind of like I would do yoga.

I would sit like sit in the living room and I would do these very elaborate yoga posts all the ozmas.

My mother's like, what are you doing.

I'm like, I don't know, and I'm doing the krea and I because I was a yoga in the past life.

And then I kind of that faded after like four or five or whatever.

Then many years later when I was I was a teenager, and I was like I was getting little glimmers of things, like like from music or like a book i'd read and saying, well, there's something here I don't understand.

Finally, when I went to my first year of college, I took an elective of religions of India, so we had to read the bagavad Gita and like, you know, all these things in reincarnation.

I'm like, yes, this is talking to me.

And from then on there I began to see through the matrix because I knew that the reality that we were being presented with was just kind of made up.

You know, there's an old existentialist story about as an existentialist on a train and the train is bobbing, so he reaches for the handhold and he can't remember like strap, and he can't remember the word for strap, and he goes, I better grab that thing, and then he realizes that everything is made up.

The name we have for your face, and the train and like language, it's all made up.

But in that moment he realized that everything is made up.

So like we talked with a matrix.

People are just making up reality, but there's no absolute reality.

So getting in touch with that at a young age, I knew I was seeing beyond the veils, is what they would kind of say.

They were like, there's something more and bigger.

But that was the beginning, and then I became aware of energies and I was studying other things.

I went to college for a year and a half and then I dropped out and I just I got a job at an office on Wall Street, and at night, I put on my yoga clothes and eat brown rice and re metaphysical books.

And that was my life and I loved it.

And I would read metaphysical books and studying these things, and then slowly began to learn about energy sensing with other people like yourself.

I'm sensitive, like I could sense things about other people, and sometimes I would get too emotional and I would understand what I was feeling.

I began to understand these weren't my feelings.

They were from other people or other energies on the planet that I was picking up.

So that was the beginning for me start.

Speaker 2

It's interesting that you said that you got exports to the Guita because I and that was in academia as well, that you were asked to read The Bag of a Gita.

And I've spoken with the Bag of Alguita several times on my show and in several podcasts I've done.

It is one of my absolute favorite books, and you know, because it talks about one of the most important things in this experience, which is attachments.

And I think, in my humble opinion, I think the Guita is all about the attachments to things and overcoming the attachment.

So that's pretty interesting that you got exposed to that in one of your electives who said that you were doing well.

Speaker 1

Was interesting was this was in Gainesville, Florida, because at that time I was born in New York, but I lived and moved to Florida when I was eleven, and then I went to the University of Florida.

So I went to the teacher and you know, the whole thing.

Years later, forty years later, I met a woman who lived in Gainesville.

She was a Harry Krishna.

So I became friendly with her and I went down.

It was likely a couple of months ago.

I went down and we were talking and I was like, I was like, yeah, I took my first class year.

I go with such and such.

She goes, oh, yeah, I know her.

She's still at the university, so forty years later.

But the funny thing was, that's the largest Hari Krishna temple like in the United States is in Gainesville, Florida.

They have a beautiful temple, all these festivals and everything, and I just thought, what a journey that I had started there.

And then I came back to Florida eventually after living in other places, and then I met somebody and the teacher I think she was the head of the PARKWOT or whatever by then, and it was just kind of a funny thing.

But reincarnation, I remember, like Arjina and some of the other stories, they were talking about reincarnation, Like a guy's a warrior and he goes, well, if I die, I'll just take out a new body, no problem.

You know.

That's the problem with reincarnation is you're like, well, if you just get a new one, you know that kind of thing.

But yeah, those classics, even though religion, you know, ideology and hierarchies and all these things took over Christianity or Buddhism, you know, Islam, all these things if they always go back to the founder, to the original things, that person was having revelations and was having a true divine experience whatever.

And then people are like, well, we have to explain this to other people.

We better write it down a book.

But that the book isn't the experience.

But those books, if you go back and you're open, you can channel in great inspiration.

So they're very very important to Veta.

It's all these things, Karan.

There's very important things in there, not all of it because it was adulterated and some things were changed over time, but there's a lot of good information in there that can really awaken you and accelerate you.

Speaker 3

Yeah, for sure, for sure.

Speaker 2

And that's the way you always tell people that you need to read a plethor of books, because not one book hasn't everything.

And after while you get something called this and you're able to.

Speaker 3

Piece together the puzzle a little bit.

Speaker 2

Better because every book has in a bit of a party puzzle that makes the whole.

And I think the journey here is to find a whole.

But you need to have so many different experiences, read so many different types of books, do different types of psychedelics, et cetera.

In order to put that those pieces together.

Speaker 1

You know, so different experiences we just touch upon that it's important.

Yes, I knew a lot of people did psychedelics, and the important thing for all the listeners to understand is that the current generations into evolution and transcendence, we're trying to transcend the old paradigm.

But they were always transcendentalists.

There are always people trying to get to another state of consciousness.

Lord Byron the poet, they would drink, they would do alcohol or do you know hallucinogenics or the things like that people drink.

Is because they're trying to transcend the normal state of consciousness.

Also, it's important to really, just like you mentioned, study a lot of different things.

I mean, I studied echincar scientology, had a roommate who was a scientologist at one point that he was an interesting character.

Christianity, Judaism.

I learned a little bit about Islam.

You know, aliens, you know, extraterrestrials, all these different things, and which you kind of understand is that it's just the infinite, the divine, expressing through these many different forms.

But there's so many interesting teacher stoicism Marcus Aurelius, you know different things.

Shakespeare had metaphysical things, you know, in some of his you know, monologues and dialogues and plays.

But what I often see with a lot of people is they become too fixated on one ideology.

And so what happens is like typically, like I remember I did an expo about a month ago.

I was talking to a woman, you saw, oh Men's enlightning coach, and so she came over and was talking about, you know, Jesus, like everything was Jesus.

This is Jesus, you know, that's Jesus.

I'm like, yes, he was a great guy, you know, and you know, but Jesus, you know, if we go down the rabbit hole, Jesus was a Jewish guy, you know that.

That's kind of that's kind of what was going on there.

And then he actually traveled all over the world and was studying with many other teachers.

He was in Indian other countries.

So but people become very orthodox, and what happens is they contract and my whole life is just the same thing that we share in common.

And that's why I'm here today is expanding beyond, go beyond, beyond all the definitions and the ideas and the structures and beliefs because we're told these stories, example, the Ascension thirty years ago.

They're saying, well, you know, Jesus and all these masters are going to come to Earth and it's gonna be a great awaken all these great things are going to happen.

Well it's thirty years later.

I'm still kind of waiting for those things to happen.

But they had to tell us a story so that it would encourage us to grow and develop.

But everybody's always telling you a story of how spiritual he's supposed to be or what's going to happen.

And that's fine, and some of those can be true, but too often if you follow that dictum or try to be obedient to that, you will eventually have to break out of that structure because there are no rules.

We're just making it up as we go along and anything as possible.

So I don't want to be limited by another person's belief system, no matter how great they are.

Speaker 2

Yeah, I totally agree.

Yeah, this is why we were having this conversation today.

So was there a personal breaking point, a metrix moment that pushed you into redefining masculinity for yourself.

Speaker 1

When you ask that question, I'll go back to a very profound experiences I had.

So I was talking about reincarnation.

When I was a little kid.

I started remembering things, and I was in my nineteen twenty or something started to kind of like do like hypnosis, and I was trying to do different ways to get to those memories.

I thought that'd be exciting.

Well, it ended up as over time I started going on those past live memories.

It was my soul going, now we're going to look at all the jump crappy stuff you did, so you can now improve yoursel.

I'm like, oh God.

But in those days I went back and I was twenty years old.

I was at a channeling event and listened to the guy and I'm like, Okay, this is interesting whatever he's talking about.

I started to get very woozy, my eyes closed.

I went into an alternate state of consciousness, and I saw it like these little children were like gathering around me, and I'm like, why are these kids in my mind?

Speaker 6

You know?

Speaker 1

Around me?

Anyway, my kundalini awaken.

I felt a bolt of energy move up from my face chakra all the way up through the head and then it felt like my brain split in two.

And when it came back, I had total recall of my original life on Earth because I wasn't originally from here, it was another planet.

I had that total recall.

This is very unusual.

Usually you have like little bits and pieces.

And I was like oh.

And then I went through a very weird period for six months where I'm like, well, I know myself is Egan, and I'm remembering some of these other lifetimes, but I'm like, I'm not really human.

And then I'm like, well I was an alien.

I'm like, well, I'm not really an alien either, I'm a soul.

And there was this is a true story I was on around this time.

I was like questioning everything, like well who am I am?

I?

This am I that?

You know whatever?

And since then I've been all the different races and I've been in all different countries.

I mean I go back like about eighty thousand years, so I've been around.

But in this particular instance, I was on a subway and I saw like a young Latin man.

I was in about twenties.

He was made a little bit older than me, and I felt all the sexual energy and I was like, wait a minute, am I gay too?

You know, like what's going on here?

And then I was like, wait a minute, I think I was picking up the energy around his aura.

But then I said, well, if I was a woman in a past life, I would have different a different sexual orientation in this one.

And I you know, I've never had a homosexual relationship.

It's like women in this life.

That's not the like.

But it made me realize that the soul.

Sometimes when we say gay, people like a gay man who's very effeminate and say, why is that guy gay?

How did that work out?

Genetics?

No, it's because most of their past lives they were a female.

So then they say, well let me mix it up this time and come as a man, but they still have the condition from the other lifetime.

Same thing with the very masculine women.

Now having said that, that experience it was very cosmic.

Eventually, just was going through this very weird period and then I said, oh, okay, for now, I'm Megan.

I can't worry about who I was in a past life and who I'm going to be in the future life.

Who am I now?

Am Megan heterosexual?

This is what I'm doing.

Let's go and that was it later on with the masculinity though, and you asked, that's kind of what you were getting to as well.

In my family, my mother was very strong willed.

She was dominant.

My stepfather, who raised me since I was age of three, was more passive.

So I had this weird dynamic of a strong woman she had.

She was very ahead of her time.

She ran her own business in the nineteen sixties.

She was raising me.

She was like a pioneer in women's business business world.

And my father was in the business where my stepfather's in the business with her.

He was very passive, and so I had this weird thing where I took on some of his characteristics of being like the pleaser.

If I'm kind enough, if I'm if I if i'm you know, if I gotta, I gotta make them happy.

Otherwise the love is going to be pulled away.

And my mother had a habit of when she got mad at you, she would pull all of her attention away.

One time, her birthday was around Valentine's Day, so her birthday was about a week, you know, around Valentine's Day, And so one time Valentine's Day, I was like seven, and my stepdad said, okay, let's get together here.

So he got cards and candy and gifts and everything.

So he sat in the living room and we're like, me and my dad are sitting here like here, you know, his cards and his gifts.

And my mother comes in and she was like in a bad mood.

She's like what is this?

And she's like looking at this, and she's like and she goes, what you got me this?

And she's like throwing it there.

Anyway, she didn't talk to me for two days.

She was just in one of those moods.

And tell you that really affected me psychologically because she she could just pull away to love and she would just you know, do that.

My father was devastated used to you know, like yelling at him, and it was it was pretty bad.

So I would say growing up as a young man, I was like, how do you please these broads?

That's the New York term broads, because it's not really good correct praise these broads because I don't know.

And I was always like, well, if I'm just nice, so if I'm just like, you know whatever.

Later on I met my biological father.

I hadn't seen him since I was three.

I met him thirty years later my mother died.

He was all man.

He was a mask and guy.

He was very He didn't put up with anything from anybody.

He was very different.

So it was very interesting.

So it was very confusing as a young man.

And I see this now in the current generation in the twenties and thirties, where these young men are like, well, I better not be too offensive.

How do I please them?

Can I say the right thing?

If I don't say the right thing, I'm gonna lose my job.

I'm gonna be exposed.

I'm going to be canceled.

And so I can't imagine that level of pressure.

If I had been twenty or thirty and I've been trying to figure out like how to act, and then the pressure of all the social media, I think I would have gone nuts.

I would have been I probably would have been become very introverted.

I think that's what's happened with a lot of the young men, especially on the spiritual path, but becoming like not safe out there because there's so many masculine women.

Now that I was prepared, like with my mother, because she was very you know, she could be sweet.

I wasn't saying she wasn't.

She's very physically beautiful and very sweet and very feminine.

But man, when you knew you've crossed her, she came at you, you better be ready to fight.

And I was often like battling with her, you know, psychologically, because she's like, you're gonna do this, and I'm like, no, I'm so finding who yourself as a man now.

Ultimately, I found that man wasn't about you know, hunting or you know.

I did bodybuilding for a while or too.

That was another thing where I think of a bodybuilder and stuff like that.

I was trying to find, like who I was.

I found that being a man is basically being true to your word and having confidence in yourself and persisting despite what's going on around you.

So people challenge you, give you a hard time, or you have a big challenge, You're like, it'll work out.

That's that's being a man is.

It'll work out.

I'll just keep plugging along, listen to other people learned, but it'll be okay.

The weak man is like, I don't know what to do.

I better listen to that person.

I better listen to her.

I better do what the society says.

Oh, Heaven's the Betsy's no man, that ain't being a man.

So that's the essence of the mail energy, the solar power, the feminine energy is giving, love, nurturing, just loving.

And now we have a lot of people where they're trying to blend those where they say, well, I have a strength, but I also have the givingness.

I don't know if I figured it out yet, but if I balance it out and I'm compassionate but strong, that's the best way I have found.

Speaker 3

Yeah.

Speaker 2

Yeah, I like to say that I am firm of fear because I would give, you know, people of fair chance, and you know, forgive and stuff and ask for forgiveness.

But I'm firm in the sciense of I have boundaries and I have red lines, and I don't appreciate when they are fringed on or when they are fringed on.

I pull you upon it, and if you repeatedly do it, then you know, I mean, then that's it, right, Like we have to separate because you know, that's what they call red lines for a reason, you know, But you're totally correct where I mean.

I'm in I'm forty and forty three years young, soon to be forty four years young.

And I would probably struggle if I were twenty years old now coming up in this generation, because honestly, at my young age, I still have had effects of social media, but I was not as much as the younger generation because I had it as I was an adult and not when I was in my adolescent years.

So I still had a bit of a personality that was formed.

So I learned a lot through trial and error and battlefield experience.

With the youngsters now they don't have battlefield experience.

Because what you were talking about men and spirituality, it also transfers to sex, where I think thirty percent of males between the ages of eighteen and thirty are either a virgin, sexually inactive, not caring about pursuing a woman, or have not had sex in one year.

Now eighty to thirty is when men are in their absolute prime for testosterone work ability to like work seventy eighty hours a week.

You know, with hardly any sleep, you can be any best physical shape for bodybuilding, athletics.

Speaker 3

We're talking about.

Speaker 2

Men in their prime and they're not even having sex, procreating chasing girls.

They have no like hunger for anything.

They just go to work and they come back and they play on their video games or scroll on their phone.

Speaker 1

So technology steals agency and it can steal purpose.

You know, we're talking about AI and everything.

Well, if a computer is going to be able to do all these things, what's the guy gonna do?

You know, if you're dating a woman and this happened to me.

I was dating a woman who made three times my income.

She was in real estate.

So if she's making all that money and she doesn't really need me to provide money and do this, what am I there to do with their holder purse?

You know?

And so now we have like computers and like all these things like well the computer is gonna do this, and the robot's gonna do this, and if you want sex, just watch pornography.

And the guys like, you know, like what am I going to do?

Eventually?

What I think is gonna happen.

We'll go through a phase with this.

People will like say, okay, well, it's like the Great Depression.

You know about a hundred years ago, the Great Depression.

All these people grew up and they didn't have any money and that and that that generation had a certain experience that other people didn't have.

It's like the people went through the sixties.

I think what's gonna happen is least psychically, what I sense is in the next twenty thirty years they'll develop a new drive and a junk gate system where people be able to go to other planets.

We're not that far off from it.

And what will happen is they'll begin to sell out of the planets and they'll say, well, we're Mormons, We're gonna go to our own planet and then go off from there.

We're like, you know, we're from Africa, We're going to go off there.

We're conservatives, We're gonna go off there.

So any reality you want, you can go to that planet and you'll simply do it.

And people will be able to do it.

We can do it right now because if you say I'm conservative, you simply go live in a conservative place.

But eventually, with that junk ae technology and the abilit to go to other planets and everything, they'll have breakthroughs.

That's what that's what Elon Musk is working on.

Doesn't always say it, but he's he's doing other things.

They'll have that technology, people will be able to spread out throughout the galaxy.

We're really only the beginning.

We're like the beginning of the whole thing because I go in the future, because I actually can see some future lives and everything like that.

That's another weird story that I have.

Yeah, there's all sorts of planets and things.

People are living on asteroids.

That's the I have a life where I live on an asteroid.

In the future they get a habitat.

So there's all sorts of things, so we'll be able to explore it.

Speaker 7

But right now we're in a unique exploration because there was a period in Atlantis that was very similar to this, not exactly you know, but the procession of equinoxes where every twenty six thousand years, you know, astrological thing.

Speaker 1

So there was a period Atlantis where again we had the technology and everything, and there was this great spiritual awakening, but it was just it was a much smaller population.

There was certain specific things to that.

In a way, I feel like we're moving through that again, but with more complexity, more people on the planet.

There's never been eight billion people on this planet.

I know because I've been here for eighty thousand years in different bodies.

They't never been in this close to that.

There's been lots of people, but not eight billion.

We're probably gonna get about ten billion, and then we're going to begin to decline.

That's why you see a lot of young people who are not having sex and doing other things, because people are gonna say, well, if computers will do everything for me, and you know, I don't need a partner really for this, that and the other thing, or you can have test two babies.

You know, I have families, and so there'll be some people are gonna say, well, I'm just going to or it's too expensive, I'm gonna opt out.

And as you become more technologically advanced, there is less children.

Most of the children being born right now are in countries that are less technologically developed.

Well from cultures, they're like, well this is what we do, man.

You know, we're gonna have babies and you know, pro create.

So the icky mora I think is the name of the people in Japan is the people sitting there have apartments all day long, looking at anime, ordering food in they live with their parents.

I think there's like five hundred thousand in Japan, and Japan's population is going way down.

They're actually trying to get people to move there.

But the Japanese are very like, no, we don't want foreigners here.

You know, if you go to Japan, everything is you know, if you go to with seven eleven, everything are machines, like soda machines or dispensing machines, because they can't get enough people to actually work and you know, work at a you know, like at the counter, so they make they have every type of kind of machine.

You can make pizza, you can get you know, laundry supply.

I mean everything you go.

It's like there's wall to wall machines because they can't get enough people.

Eventually they have robots, and eventually they'll have robot girlfriends and boyfriends.

So we're having lots of fun here.

We go a lot of different ways in the conversation, but it's a very strange period.

So, yeah, the guy thinks I'm a single guy.

I'm twenty.

Do I want a woman who has all sorts of psychological problems once to dominate me?

Or where I like this android or I can take the personality my favorite porn star, put her in this android and she does whatever I do you to do now for me?

That because I like a real human being, even though some of the women are difficult to deal with.

I'd rather that flesh and blood.

But a lot of these cats are going to say, you know what, it's just easier.

I don't want to go through all that personal growth.

Give me an android.

It's already happened already.

Speaker 3

It is true.

Speaker 2

And I think that humans we tend to like to stay on our comfort zones, and we tend to late the path of police resistance.

Speaker 3

So this is why we are not really evolving.

Speaker 1

So and that's a killer of spiritual growth if you get too much in the comfort zone.

So you have to keep on punching out because you get too comfortable, like, oh, I'll just sit at the ashrom and do my mantras and all the guru.

You ain't gonna learn much after a while.

You gotta get out there, get into get into conflict with people.

That's my favorite way of growth, of getting into conflicts with people.

It'say, Now, what did I learn from that?

Anyway?

Sometimes the lesson is not to get into conflicts with people.

Speaker 3

It's true.

It's true.

Speaker 2

So in your early years teaching spiritual growth, when did you notice men struggling most with purpose, sensitivity, or identity.

Speaker 1

About thirty years ago, I went to a workshop with a guru.

His name was Baba Baba Baba Maharaj, although he changed his name several times.

That's kind of the racket in India.

They changed their name a lot of times with their marketing.

So anyway, they was a never guy and he was like very spiritual.

He wasn't actually Hindu, he was mixed race, but he had become a sick A sick is actually the pronounced quick pronunciation a sick Hindu.

And he studied with Muktananda and the Golden Chain of all those gurus and everything.

It was you get around the guy, he felt like electricity coming off and it was like it was something and I was like, all right, now he's to find me a guy I can relate to, you know whatever.

And so that was the beginning.

But after that I became I became more aware as I would go into the New Age communities.

I was also a pagan for a while, and I'm like, is something.

I was meeting all sorts of interesting people.

I went to another workshop, was a relationship workshop.

I think it was nineteen ninety five.

Five guys, twenty three women.

So we get there and At one point we had to do a thing where the men sat on one side of the room and the women sat on the other side, and the women just let us have it with all their complaints about men.

So we're, you know, we're taking here, and then we got to say what we felt and everything.

But I started to notice around that time these very masculine women.

It was another woman I met around that time.

She was like, yeah, if a guy cries around me, it's over, and she was like a real tough woman.

I'm like, so I began to notice those types.

I also noticed women who were very ephemeral.

You know now in the New age ecosystems, all these different types of women.

They're the warrior women.

I'm embodied.

I have perfect blonde hair, and you too could have this if you follow me.

So's those kind of women are very masculine.

And then these these women who are like, oh, my life has always been broken, nothing will ever change.

And I'm like, well, that's not true.

You just got to work through these things, you know.

So I was like watching all these people, and I noticed that with the men.

Then I started meeting all these senses.

We call them snacks.

Snag is a sensitive New age guy.

There was a song written by called you know snag.

He likes to cry at you know, cry at you know, you know whatever, like you know at women's circles a snag.

It's a famous song and you can google it.

But I mean all these snags and then I realized I was a snag because, you know, I had the Jesus Sandals.

I had to Little Go Tea.

I would drive my car listening to Enya, you know.

So that's like a snag.

And you have the Jesus Action figure these things, you are a snag.

So I went to a I'll never forget.

There was a guy named jade Waha Grigory.

He's a shaman, and we did a sweat lodge.

So he built this tent and we get in the sweat lodge and it's like five thousand degrees in there, and I'm like sweating and I'm like h and he started talking about there are lots of soft men in the world.

Now you get a warrior, you have to stand up straight when you're in the ten.

I'm like okay.

He started like yelling at us and everything, and I came out of that thing and I'm like what a jerk.

And then years later I was like, you know what, he wasn't a jerk.

He had it right.

And I emailed and I said you were right, and he goes, yeah, I know.

So there were a lot of a lot of key sheeting men.

That was the gay culture also coming more into the mainstream, like Okay, it's ok to be gay.

That's great.

Doesn't mean that I'm effeminine or gonna wear stylish clothes.

Although praps this, I don't know.

There were all these different things and social engineering.

This is something that you know is very strong.

It's been in the movies for like the last ten years, where there was a very specific agenda on the part of Hollywood to feminize men.

They began with all sorts of TV shows.

These were like with liberal progressive ideas, which at that point I was more liberal progressive at that point when I was younger.

But now what happened all those years later is what's happened is they will take a male character.

If you watch any modern move from Hollywood, all the men are idiots or lunkheads.

All the women are in charge.

You know, they're the ones who are smart and can do everything.

Suddenly a four foot tall woman could be a superhero knocking you know, knocking over five hundred pound men.

I mean, it got really distorted, and so the box office, a lot of movies and TV shows just went in the toilet because they kept on trying to promote this thing.

Because people are like, well, I don't want to see some wimpy guy being a hero and like women, you know, slapping other people around.

I don't want to see, you know, some of these you know, gender swapping things, like why are you you know you're gonna make the You're gonna make this hero.

You're gonna make Grambo a woman?

Now, like what are we doing here?

And it's a shame because women can be warriors.

There's nothing the matter with Wonder Woman.

And that's fine.

But there was a concerted effort by Hollywood to feminize men and the society in general, and now it's backfire because nobody wants to Really, women don't really want to overly feminine man.

They don't matter a sensitive man or a compassionate man, but they don't want a guy who can't change the oil, who like is obedient, you know, just like you know, a beaten down man.

Nobody wants that, just as we don't want a woman who's like overly masculine and aggressive and acts like a man.

You're like, hey, hey, hey, you know, are you a dude?

Or what's going on here?

You calm down?

So that balance has been lost, and that's why society is spiraling out of control in a way, because people are like, well, how am I supposed to act?

This?

Society says this way, this is what Hollywood says.

And my parents say it's okay for me to question my gender identity at age four and get surgery or something.

I mean, it's it's gotten kind of wacky.

Speaker 2

Absolutely, let's going on wacky.

And me and my may in England, we were we text each other, this is backne day.

We still text each other though, and I think that if we were to go through or text for the last ten years, we've probably documented the fall of our civilization because we were seeing these things coming from like ten years ago.

We were doing is it just me?

Or stuff is getting really really weird?

And we kept seeing it surely can't get weirder, And every year we kept saying.

Speaker 3

Like we were wrong.

It just kept getting weird.

Speaker 1

I remember, I remember walking out of the Fort.

You said ten years, it's about right.

I remember walking Out of the Forest Awakens, the movie they did Star Wars Force Awakens, so it's it's it's basically a female character who's the new hero.

She's instantly good at everything.

They call it the Mary Sue.

Somebody who's good at everything, doesn't have to go through any training.

She's just a woman, and so she's brilliant and she's powerful.

And I remember walking out of that movie and going, Wow, how awful was that movie.

I was laughing at how bad it was.

I was like, I was like, that was awful.

All they did was remake the first movie put a female character in it, and I was like, I was laughing how awful that was.

And I'm like that that's not going to survive.

And with each other Star Wars movie, they got worse and worse and worse, and now Star Wars is practically dead.

Star Wars Star Trek Doctor Who.

They ran everything into the ground.

Video games, they ran them into the ground by sticking female characters into everything.

So when you were friends and your friends were talking about all this stuff, so you saw that what are the things did you see other than the feminization.

What are the things did you see in the culture that were changing.

Speaker 2

It was very much political correctness, because in the UK political correctness is on teroids compere to other places in the world, well, probably Canada, Australia.

Yes, oh, you don't have it so much in the United States, but you know, United Kingdom is very very big on political correct and yelling people.

Speaker 1

I saw the thing they jailed like twelve thousand people for comments theydd on social media.

That's crazy.

Speaker 3

Yeah.

Speaker 2

Yeah, So we we saw a lot of that coming out, and basically, you know, in terms of the law and everything, certain groups of people because he's white and I mean darker skin and we are good mates, and we said, but dude, there's just not right because just because the guy is dark skinned doesn't mean he should get off.

And then just because the guy is white the skin doesn't mean he mask gill.

So we used to we were seeing it amongst ourselves from from then.

Speaker 1

The racism thing too, that's really important that you mentioned about it.

Now, my father was in Egypt.

My mother was very pale, So if you know, you had not been pale, I would have been a little bit darker.

Although I look very pale right now.

But I'm half Egyptian and so I have kind of a unique, you know, perspective on things.

But the racism, this is really weird.

I'm glad we talked.

I had a feeling we were going to talk about this a little bit.

That's very strange now where one side of the political stretum like everything's racism.

I was dating a woman the last year or so, and she was very liberal.

I used to be liberal and then I became a libertarian.

I don't care who the candidate is.

I just want the ideas.

And so we had the election.

I said, well, you got Trump and you got Harris, whose ideas are better.

I'm like, well, you know, Harris, I don't know based upon her record of what she was talking, which changed every five minutes.

Couldn't trust her at least Trump.

I was like, well, there's certain things that I agree with him with I'm gonna vote for that guy.

So we're going and we're having our relationship, and she would like start bringing up these things you know about politics, and I would talk to her ration and say, well, you know you say this.

I said, well, here's what actually the facts are.

And when she got mad, at me.

So one day she says to me, why didn't you vote for Kamala Harris?

Are you racist?

And I'm like, no, said I just didn't like her policies.

So that thing has been used a lot to divide people.

But the weird thing is it's all in the media.

But if you go around regular people, everybody's getting along.

We rarely have a racial incident.

I live in Jacksonville.

The third of the population's black.

I've lived here four years, never had a problem.

Neighbors, people I work with, people I socialize with, not a problem.

But if you looked on the media, especially the Democrats, it's like every white guy is a racist.

It's a race war.

It's a race war, and I'm like, what reality are you doing it.

That's part of the propaganda, propaganda and the brain in washing that they're doing.

And it's a shame because it's they're trying to divide us.

But just like when Charlie Kirk died, when you go to these Republican react rallies, it's not just all white peoples, Asian people, there's black people, there's Spanish, you know, it's pretty diverse.

But that's the other brainwashing.

So feminization, you know, cancel culture, racial divisions, you know, you know, trying to you know, split people up against each other.

Speaker 2

Immigracial correctness, I'm sorry, political correctness.

Speaker 1

Political correctness, what else?

What else comes up when you think about the change that we're.

Speaker 2

Undergoing, immigration as well, And I think the whole, the whole mission is to take away us from spirituality, searching from within, doing the work on ourselves and you know, me being especially men being on deair purpose because I like how you had described earlier, where like what it is to be a man and I am actually starting I never really thought about what it meant to be a man, but I'm started more thinking now.

That is honoring your word and living your purpose, staying on your mission.

When you know you have a mission, you stay on it.

And I know that one of my missions is to do this podcast, and I'm going to stand on business and I'm going to no matter how difficult it gets, because there are challenges, but I'm just going to on the word to myself and to my higher self that I'm going to do this podcast and share information so I can teach people's stuff through having great guests like you and other guests.

Because we've definitely lost our path, you know.

So you say your mission is to simplify the spiritual path.

What illusions are over complications?

Do you see most men trapped in today?

Speaker 1

Part of my process of going within what you just mentioned was I do a lot of belief work I so to understand the path.

I remember when I was your age and I thought I'm so smart, I know everything, and then I hit a real tough patch.

For about ten years, I'm like, I don't know anything, and I had to start all over again.

But one of the things was the mental and emotional mastery, learning to change your mental patterns and emotional patterns and going into that very deeply.

If you don't do that, you're basically trapped.

You're being pulled in different directions.

You have to know your purpose in life as a human being, whether that's a man or a woman.

But for men, we're having a little bit more of a difficult time because we're being asked to change more than women.

Yes, women are in the workplace and they're trying to balance the home life and the business life and other things.

They're going through changes.

But men, fundamentally, we're changing thousands of years worth of evolution, where now we have to be have a more open heart, more in touch with our emotions.

In the old days, I had a job.

He you know, he drove a cab.

He'd go off at four o'clock in the morning, spend you know, ten hours or twelve hours in his hack.

You know, come back, but here's my money.

Give it to the wife.

She had taken care of the kids and whatever.

Life was very simple.

You were just trying to survive and support the family.

Now it ain't that easy.

It's a very different thing because you can go out and work ten hours a day and come back to your partner and they're like, I'm doing the same thing.

What are you complaining about?

You know?

So reframe the question again, because I lost the threat a little bit, as I often do.

Speaker 2

Sure, Sure, So basically I was taught you said that your mission is to simplify the spiritual path.

So what illusions are over complications?

Do you see most men trapped in today?

Speaker 1

Ah?

The idea what being a man is?

I've got to do it all by myself.

I can't show my emotions.

I have to suffer spiritually awakening.

But I better hide that, not talk about it too much.

You know, I don't want to appear weak.

I used to go to the gym.

When I was around twenty three, I decided to go a bodybuilder.

I made one hundred and forty pounds within three months.

I force fed myself and I went to the gym every day.

I was one hundred and seventy five pounds a pure muscle.

I could bench about four hundred and fifty pounds, so I wasn't, you know, a little squeamish guy.

And then over time I would go back to bodybuilding here and there.

The last year or so, I let go of some of these ideas.

So I still go to the gym.

I could go on the tread, I do some push ups and whatever.

But I'm not trying to get bigger.

I no longer equate my physical size with who I am.

It's important to be physically in good shape, but more muscles doesn't make me more of a man, doesn't make me stronger.

Clearer beliefs, more self love, more honoring my integrity, more doing what I say I'm gonna do and sticking to that, more being honest with myself.

A lot of my spiritual growth really came from I call it the two step, which is number one.

I always admit how I'm really feeling, and then I can change it in some way.

Something comes up in my life, I'm like, oh, I didn't feel very good.

What am I actually feeling.

Unfortunately a lot of men and people in the spiritual community spiritual bypass, they feel some negative energy and they're like, oh, I've been taught just a thing positive.

I better not feel that.

Let's brush that away and put a smile or pretend like I'm not affected.

What happens is they stuffed down all these emotions.

Now you know what happens if you stuff stuffed down, Eventually get explodes.

There's a funny episode about Kramer where he's doing Serenity Now.

Serenity Now, we tell me get upset.

He goes serenity Now, and then one day he explodes because he's stuffing all his emotions.

It's true.

So one of the obstacles is trying to be a tough guy.

Trying to be a tough guy.

You talk to any like guy in the military.

Got some clients who are military people like coach, or you talk to people who have very difficult jobs.

Yeah, they're scared.

You go into a war.

You're scared.

You haven't problems in your marriage.

You're scared.

You know you're you're transcending your normal state of consciousness and maybe you're having an awakening or dark knight of the soul.

You're scared.

You're not going this is great, I'm having a great time.

You're like, I'm scared my ego is being challenged.

I don't know, I'm in the unknown.

You're scared.

So you have to be willing to just admit that you're scared, face it, and not have to be the tough guy.

Because we're cracking open the egg.

That's what you're doing.

You crack an open baby, and you're like, Okay, if I'm gonna involve my conscious, I got to crack open what my beliefs are.

And sometimes you discover things about yourself that are very dark, especially with the past lives start having recalled of them.

I went through it several months ago.

R I cracked open a past life that I didn't really want to load too much.

I wanted the good stuff, but I was doing and the good things, but I found out these ones were like, yeah, I was not such a nice guy.

Brief summary was that there was a life where I was a warrior.

There was a war, so I got drafted because we all had to go.

In the first fifteen minutes, I got knocked unconscious.

Hours later, I woke up like ninety nine percent of people were dead.

I mean, even as I talk about it now, it just was blood and just bodies and just it was the most horrific thing.

But my side won.

So a brigade came by.

Speaker 5

And they go, oh, look a great job you did.

You won the whole section here.

Fantastic.

We're gonna make a governor of the area.

So for that whole life, they thought I was a war hero.

Even though I got knocked I hadn't done anything.

Speaker 1

I was an awful war I couldn't even I could barely hold the sword.

I was like a farmer.

But I got knocked out, and they said, well, you did a great job.

You were on the winning side.

You're the governor.

So I had an injury, I had a bum leg, And for that life, I basically was an alcoholic.

And I never told me buddy that I was actually kind of a coward, you know, and just you know, had a lot of slaves, and you know, sex with slaves and drinking and trying to like not talk about my war record.

And I was in charge of like a huge air and so then later on I started meeting some of the people who had been my slaves and other things, and I'm like the ramifications of that, and I was like, oh God, another life.

I lived in Atlantis.

I was a mind master, and so this was sort of like a like a guild that would do missions.

We would do We were bodyguards, and we would messengers, and we would do certain sketchy things like the CIA would do.

These guys would do.

So I was sent on a mission by my boss and he said, Oh, it's a great mission.

You're gonna make a lot of money from this.

I'm like, okay, let's do it.

He was lying to me.

He sent me on the worst, most dangerous mission.

And when I got compromised, I was programmed to kill myself.

Jumped in a body of what A and I drowned rather than find the information of my body that I was carrying.

So it's like, oh, I gave my power away to that person.

So there were certain lessons I had to learn, and those ultimately came down to taking back your power.

So it's the paradox with men is that we're very powerful, but if you don't know how to access that power, they can't fully express it.

I thought if I was strong enough and had enough money or power status, and that would be a great thing.

As I've seen those other lifetimes, I found that that wasn't It was more what are my belief systems?

How can I act with integrity?

How can I be compassion with other people and fair with other people and fairer myself?

Most men are not fair of themselves because they're expected to carry society.

Okay, no matter how difficult.

Speaker 2

It is, it's true.

So you often talk about breaking free of the matrix without the toxic hustle.

What exactly is this me in the masculine context, you.

Speaker 1

Would intern interpret in slightly differently, But after these years are really studying it.

I've broken it down to three things.

I just did a whole video series on YouTube about it, but three things.

The matrix is composed of three things.

When is your ego mind part of your mind that's always talking to you.

We all have an ego.

It's a container for your soul.

We all need one, just like your body is a communication device.

Your ego has to contain your personality.

That's fine, it's always talking to you.

Unfortunately it has a lot of that information.

It tries to scare you, or it's very limited.

A lot of winds got the ego.

Next thing is the echo of reality.

So if I look out at right now my window, we've been having bad weather, I can psychically feel that everybody's bummed out because the weather doesn't look that good.

Looking at the reality and like, okay, this is physical reality.

This is a glass, and there are my eyeglasses, and this is my body.

Okay, well this must be all that there is.

So we get blind by the physical reality.

The third thing is the mass consciousness, which we can call the invisible energies or impersonal energies.

Quite often on a Sunday morning, you'll wake up and go, ah, Sunday morning, what am I going to do?

You don't know what to do?

Some people are going to church, but a lot of people don't know what to do because they're not going to school, they're not going to work, they don't know what to do, and so there's kind of like a strange kind of vibe.

But Monday morning, it's like, all right, got to get to work, got to get to school.

Do you feel that energy?

Holidays have an energy, so the energy of other people can affect us because we're picking it all up psychic politics that's going on where you're constantly connected to every other human being, and depending upon your belief systems, you're either going to bend to the will of the mass consciousness or the ego, or look at the outer reality and say, well, this is all that there is.

I can't really go beyond this, or you transcend it.

But that's the veils, those three things, the ego, the echo, and the impersonal energies of the mass conscious That's what we're breaking through with the matrix.

That's what the Matrix film was actually talking about, where he was like vending the reality, except that nobody's gonna do that in a week or a month, nobody.

It takes lifetime or lifetimes to really break through the matrix, at least in our current You words for it, but you know the same thing that I'm saying.

Speaker 2

Yeah, I get I get what you're saying.

So how does modern hustle culture actually disconnect men from their spiritual power instead of enhancing it.

Speaker 1

There's a whole beliefs of some around money.

I just did another series of YouTube videos about abundance.

So the hustle is like, well, first of all, how money is allocated in the culture.

People think there's not enough.

There's not enough.

Money is made up these green pieces of paper.

Just pulling up my wallet here, it looks like a cell phone, but it's not.

Yes, I have I don't know, forty five bucks.

It smells good.

It's just made up.

We just made it up.

There's no you know, when Obama was passing this thing for that when we had the market crash and everything, which one Q one, all right, just put more money in any way to hit a button, and then it's printing more money, like but it didn't come from a farm.

It's not backed by anything.

It's just okay, I will give you here, Todd.

I'm going to give you this piece of green paper, and now you give me ten dollars worth of you know, enlightenment.

You know, it's just made up.

So there's this whole thing about money.

It's made up, and then now you have to earn it.

Okay, Well, now if I want the ten dollars, I got to you know, work for a half an hour, you know, whatever it is, and we build the sole structure.

But the universe doesn't work like that.

We live in infinite abundance, and abundance isn't just money, it's like love.

So if we think about limitations like oh I want love, all right, well I have to get a pet, or I got to find a romance or I got to that's all I'll get the love.

But then God's love and your love for yourself is always there, you know.

So we build up these beliefs about money, and the hustle culture is like it's based on there's not enough out there.

I got to hustle and beat myself up, you know, to compete with these things, you know.

And then if I don't do that, if I don't make enough money, somehow I'm bad.

Well, most of the population on the planet, first of all, tempers of the population live beyond, you know, below poverty level, and then in between that and even the maybe to to the top one percent.

Everybody's at various levels of lack.

But it's all an illusion.

If if the society was structured differently, everybody would have housing, people would have food, and so you have to have housing and food and a meaningful purpose and love.

You're pretty rich having an extra yacht and going to make a big difference, So we're conditioned to hustle.

In China, they have the what was it called the lay down culture or something, or you know, the flat the flame flat culture where these Chinese kids they go through these colleges and classes and whatever and they get college degrees.

There ain't enough jobs for all those people, just like in America, it's a scam the whole you know, the thing we need like guys who could do plumbing, you know, we don't need you know, fifteen thousand, you know, university professors.

So they have a Lai done culture that were like, well, I went through college and I did everything.

The society said to me, I'm not going to get paid.

I'm not going to work.

I'll go work for a little bit and then go to a cafe and play you know, video games and everything, and then I'm gonna lay down and do nothing.

You know, screw you, society.

But that's happening a lot of people are like, why am I beating myself up and hustling if I'm not going to get compensated.

Doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 2

It's true, and so why do you see so many spiritually aware men still fall into burnout, perfectionism or people pleasing.

Speaker 1

Yeah, those all the things that I've battled many other lifetimes, and you've had this too.

I'm kind of getting a little take on your energy and past lives.

But we lived in monasteries and a schroms or mystery schools, and he'd say, well, I want to be a farmer growing corn, or would I rather go and learn the esoteric secrets of the universe.

You throw away, you're rake and you run off with that group because you want to see what it's all about.

So what happened is that we would get very comfortable and then they would set these unrealistic goals.

Example, we all know the classic story of Buddha.

It was a rich prince, went off did all the extreme practices and then one day he was sitting under a tree and became enlightened and he was done.

Not true, Buddha was just as human as me or you.

He had emotions after that, a boding tree awakening experience, and we've had them.

You have this great awaken for like, oh, on top of the world, Now I know everything, and then your ex girlfriend calls you up and calls you a jerk, and you're like, oh, you know, and then something happens, you know, something comes up.

So Buddha lived his life.

He had you know, he had to keep working on it.

Jesus, Oh, Jesus was perfect.

Well that's the story they want to tell you.

But somehow at that temple that day, they let it slip.

It.

He got angry at the money changer and he flipped over a table or whatever he did didn't sound like the Jesus that I'm taught about.

But he was a human being, and he had a wife and he had children.

We hold these stories.

So you're in an ashrump.

So now go in the past lifetime.

You're in some ashrom You're like, oh, here's this great you know whatever, here's this great hero.

I'm want to be like them.

Now you're like, okay, now I got this in there, and you're trying to live up to that thing.

And if I don't live up to it, I'm not a man or I'm not a good person.

I'm not doing my spiritual purpose.

Then you come in another life and like, all right, let me try a different about any different time and try to do it again.

You're not striving for perfection.

You're realizing you're already perfect.

There's not some ideal way of living or some ideals sirtuality, This whole exploration, whatever you're doing is perfect.

The first light beings that came to this planet, and there's been many different races and things that have happened, you know, all these things that have come to this planet.

But some of the first beings said, oh, I'm a light being, I can't touch that flower.

I see these beautiful flowers.

I know what I'll do.

I'll create a humaniform, you know, body and become a human being.

Now you're a human, You're like, oh, I could touch the flower, I could drink the water.

Speaker 3

This is great.

Speaker 1

What else can I do?

Let me have sex with that, or the life ame over there, let me build a log cabin.

And it went on and on and on and on and on and on and on.

There's some idea in these New Age circles that somehow, when you get enlightened, you know, you'll be wearing a crystal, sitting on a mountain, you know, doing some mantra, and somehow you'll have achieved perfection or whatever.

These are all fantasies that that those are stories that we're told for various reasons.

Experiencing this reality with our emotions and all the shadow and all the stuff were going on.

It's messy and it's sloppy and it's beautiful.

That's the exploration, is to explore what it is to be here and be fully human and the spirit to be both of those things.

It's not always clean, but people like stories.

We like the story of Superman because it's like, oh, this guy came from Krypton and then he got a costume and he was beating people up and he's a savior of the planet.

Okay, well that's great.

But the more interesting stories about heroes is when they have like Batman.

But Batman is actually more popular than Superman because Batman's like a little bit and this guy's a little bit crazy.

We've got a little bit too much vengeance.

He's a little bit violent.

We know he's a good guy, but there's something dark about him.

He battles with himself.

That's a more human character than Superman.

Speaker 2

Yeah, and I find that life because they Since I've been doing this, this walk, in this path, I've realized that life is firstly a massive mystery, and there's always another level of knowing, you know, gnosis and the things that I thought or believe we're true or just how they were eight and a half years ago when I first started to really awaken.

I look back at that guy, and that guy is a completely different guy from the guy I am now, And I am much more balanced, a lot more patient.

And life is a journey, and I think that we're just not given the right tools and we don't have the right people to look up to as role models to teach us these things.

And you know, I find that as men, you know, men have a particular purpose.

Where were the ones that we're designed to do all the hard work, heavy lifting, all of the complicated and complex stuff, right, But we don't have We're not given the tools or taught how to think, you know that, to solve problems.

Speaker 1

So definitely not we're role models.

The closest thing I came to when I was a little bit younger was I saw that movie Feel the Dreams with Kevin Costner where he kind of goes on this mystical journey and he was kind of like like a strong guy but like sensitive, but yeah, I mean I wonder I think we have to become.

And I'm glad you're doing this podcast and all the great work that you're doing, because then people say, oh, there's that guy doing that.

You know.

When I got into the sphere of the Mano sphere and I was like studying other teachers, I'm like, you know, it's more recent for me.

I began to find all sorts of interesting men who are doing more things.

Some of them were like Nordic, like we're gonna go on the mountains and on Mammoth and you know, live like off the land, and those other guys who are more like technocrats were like, but we're gonna build this perfect civilization, you know whatever.

But there's different, you know, strains of this.

A couple of months ago, I was on a I was at a class with a guy who was like an online thing, lovely guy from California, but very California snag, like talking like you know this, and you know, he wanted to play music during the thing and his emotions and like he was one step away from being a chick for a wig on that guy and it's like you had a woman there, and I'm like, yeah, that's a little bit too sensitive because I can wax poetically and I know you can't do in moments.

But then I have to, you know, you know, you know, drink a beer and eat some pizza and you know, kick a you know, play volleyball or something.

I gotta do something back.

I gotta drive my car fast or something.

And I used to jump.

I was jug I was younger.

I used to play video games.

Us to be that game Goldenee and me playing the game Goldene you know whatever.

But I was like on these spirit like a spiritual path, and I was like, I got to play my video game blow things up for a couple of hours, and then I can come back to being a better person, you know, because you like blowing things up and building things.

And that's like a more of a male as we're on the earth.

Speaker 3

So so definitely role models.

Speaker 1

You're a role model.

This is what we're doing.

We're trying to figure it out here.

Speaker 3

Well, thank you.

Speaker 2

I try my best to do the things that I say it to live it as they talk.

It is a hard path, but you know, I do my best, and people.

Speaker 1

I'm knowing your best.

You are the best right now you're doing because people can you're putting yourself out there.

I mean, who were gonna look up to Obama and people were like, oh, Obama is such a great guy, and then later on you're like, yeah, I'm not too sure about somebody.

I like him, I like his personality, but I don't know.

But even he was a different type of mail energy, you know, so there was good and bad things about him.

So but you're doing it.

You're a wonderful thing.

So this is great.

I mean when I saw this podcast, I'm like, conscious, man, yeah, I want to be on that guy show.

And I was like seeing your videos and I'm like, yeah, this guy he's still going into deep stuff, you know, not just you know, like superficial thing because we're not going to grow that way.

You got to like really push that edge and go very deep.

And I've gone to places that were just very strange, like dark places or very like abstract.

I've done light body work and all sorts of things and opening that up.

That's it being a man, and a man is being an explorer.

Let's go out and see what's out there, Let's go and within, Let's go see what's within.

Because you can go travel around the world but never learn anything but when you go within, yeah, you'll learn things about yourself that sometimes aren't always pleasant, but you need to face that shadow.

That's a lot of the work too, that we're doing shadow work.

Speaker 3

I completely agree.

Speaker 2

So what's your definition of conscious power and how is it different from ego based control?

Speaker 1

There's the ego and then there's the refined ego.

So there's a thing about there's the ego.

Somebody saying there's the ego is somebody saying I don't have an ego.

I'm just a humble servant of God.

Yeah, BSU.

You know, if you're good at something, if you're a good hairstylist, or you can, you know, d ride a motorcycle, you're not going to say, oh, it's just I'm just a humble servant of God.

No, you're gonna feel good about your accomplishments.

It's only when you overdo it.

There's a balance between the refined ego, which says I have power but not the expense of other people.

I can always tell the powerful person because they make other people feel powerful.

If I see that they're not making people feel powerful, I know it's not a powerful person.

So I'll say something controversial, but This is true for me.

Trump is obnoxious at times.

I'm from New York.

I grew up with guys like this, who is ten of those guys in every block.

But he actually is pretty supportive of people.

He actually, if you actually don't take all the media bias, he encourages people.

He's done a lot of businesses.

Not a perfect man, but he's trying to get empowered people because he knows he can't run the planet or America by himself.

He has to put good people in there.

You know, he's saying, take your power back.

That's generally a conservative view, which is be self reliant, be empowered.

On the other side, people say, oh no, you're a you can't possibly manage your life.

Oh that's terrible, Hey, let me do everything for you.

Well, that makes weak people.

So there's a balance of helping other people.

You give them just enough where you empower them.

They need money, Okay, give him money for a little bit or a project or support or whatever.

But then they have to go along their own volition.

One of the worst things that ever happened in America was welfare, because what happened was is that once we had welfare and people got addicted to it.

Then they're like, well, I'm not going to work.

There was a thing.

There was the thing.

Speaker 2

I'm sorry, no, that's a fact.

It's the same thing in Europe.

Do you well for a system has destroyed you.

Speaker 1

In Denmark, they used to have a thing if you were unemployed.

It was Denmark or swedenh you could go five years without working.

So people say I'm gonna take five years, and years later they would get a job and they're like, no, no, that's not working.

We're gonna make it six months now.

So that was a lesson.

So being a powerful purse, a powerful conscious man, you know, to be honest.

At this point, what I'm finding is to live that I have to go so deep into my own belief system.

Is about power.

It's not power over people, it's not power under people.

It's not manipulating people.

It's being so connected to your higher self or your divine self that you are the power.

And when you are that power, you don't you're not aggressive with it.

It's like the sun.

Every morning, the sun wakes up and it just showers the planet with warmth and radiance.

In life, it's feeding everything twenty four hours a day on some point of the planet.

It's feeding that planet.

The Sun doesn't say, hey, could I get a good review on Yelp or Google reviews?

Can you give me a pot on the back?

It can't because it's a star, it's a sun.

It can't do that.

But it just does his job every day and it just gives the energy.

So to me, the ultimate powerful man would be somebody who's so powerful they just give naturally.

They don't always need a pat in the bag.

Although it's not bad ladies, if you lady's listening to this, good to give compliments to men.

We need them, But you're just the person I agree to it.

Men.

Speaker 2

I was talking to my sister, but this recently, and what all men are different?

A lot of men tend to like compliments when they do good things.

Oh yes, and I am very much like that as well.

I don't know why, but it seems to be that way that a.

Speaker 3

Lot of men.

Speaker 2

One of our love languages is words of affirmation.

So for girls or they're listening, Egan is right.

If a guy is a good guy and he does something good, a compliment every now and then goes a long way to helping that guy do even good things for you.

Speaker 1

You know.

I remember one time a woman call me handsome.

I mean I've had it many times.

Not that I'm bragging too much, but you said hey, handsome, and I was like, oh, oh, like that was That's like when you're hungry and you go down to the sub shop and you eat that sub you say when you go that hit the spot.

It was like, oh, you know, I see these guys at the gym working out and they're doing this stuff and I'm like, damn, look at that guy and look at that guy.

No woman's ever saying that's a good job.

They're just kind of looking at on the treadmill.

You want to look at the treadmill, looking at the you know, their phones, and this guy next to them is like busting their bought to look good for them or to be strong.

And they're like, you know, I'm just gonna do my thing, you say.

You know, I go in the gym, I say, hey, you got a good workout, and I did.

One time with some guy.

He's like thank you.

You know, like even like I was like, man, you're like you're very good.

He goes, yeah, oh, thank you.

And I could tell that they made the guy's dead.

Speaker 2

But what you're saying is true because the life of a man is that we hardly get compliments for anything ever.

Speaker 3

And now we're getting baby, we're starved for it.

Speaker 2

So what you said about like hitting the spot for hunger, it's actually a very good analogy, because men in their life hardly ever get calm.

If you get I'm being generous here, if you get maybe five compliments in a week, you've gotten a lot.

I would say that most men probably get maybe ten compliments a year, right, seriously, Yeah, it's.

Speaker 1

A compliments in a lifetime.

Speaker 6

Right.

Speaker 1

And so girls out.

Speaker 2

There, like you know, like we're humans too, and we do like words of affirmation.

We do like compliments.

So when you can, please compliment the good men in your life, because that gives them more encouragement to do more good things for you.

So do you believe we're witnessing a collective initiation of men where old models of success and leadership are collapsing.

Speaker 1

Everything's being rearranged so much, I mean the level of complexity.

I used to work with the cards called the Mine Oracle based on the Mayan symbols.

I was a Mayan priest in the past life, and so they have these like oracle divination system and there was one card number thirteen, which was called complex stability.

So I think what's happening is that, Yeah, get like a box of cereal and you shake it.

When I was a little kid, they used to have put toys in this thing.

So we get the cereal.

We're like, we're shaking that baby going all right, like we're gonna crack this safe.

We've better figure out where that thing is.

So you're shaking it whatever, and like right now, like everything's being shaken up.

You know, you have transgender women.

You're like, okay, well I was a guy last week, but now I'm a woman and I'm gonna compete with you in the Olympics.

You're like, okay, now you're shaking things up there.

Or we're like okay, now we're in this country, but you know what, every year we're gonna invite two hundred thousand more new people despite not having enough housing for the existing population.

So it's shaken things up.

And so all these things are being shaken up, the ideologies, the technology, and you know, sometimes you have trial by fire or baptism by fire.

We talked about this in war.

I work with some veterans and everything, and you know that you go to you go to basic training and then they're like, Okay, now it's time to go to war and they throw it into the battlefield or we're out of a plane.

You gotta figure it out out.

So I think what's happening is our initiation, is that we're in this situation.

And by the way, there's never any there's no victims, you know, you know, there's no victims, only volunteers.

So whenever I complain about something, and I love to complain, but never complain about something, there's always an awareness that I'm creating my reality one hundred percent.

I chose to be here, I chose to be in this body.

I'm choosing to explore this and I'm here as long as I'm in this body.

So we're choosing to go through this exploration and that the empowerment is not going to come from women acknowledging us, although that's nice, it's not going to come from building a better robot.

The true empowerment of the initiation is going inward and connecting with the divine self, higher self, the soul, and letting that express through us to the to the best of our ability.

That's the initiation.

So we're all waking each other up back thirty years ago, like when Oprah came on TV and she had a different energy than a lot of people.

She's a lot of good.

Don't always agree with her positions on things, but that was a breakthrough moment.

Tony Robbins was somebody who woke with a lot of people in the eighties and nineties.

That amazing work, Eckar told Louise Hay.

I mean, they're just you know, the Dalai Lama.

There's certain things of people that have been out there, so we're going through an initiation in the manosphere.

I'm not sure.

I like some of Trump's energy, and there's certain things I don't agree with.

I like Elon Musk because he's been very successful and very forward thinking, but again he can be challenging at times.

But each man has to go on his own hero's journey, you know, Like when men come to me, I say, well, look, here's how we relate.

I'm Merlin, the eccentric guy, the magician, and you're King Arthur, and so we're gonna go on our journey and I'll help you awaken and I'll be your wingman, and I'll be there for you and I'll challenge you, and you know, do those things for myself, I had many mentors who initiated me.

I have a lot of non physical guides like you have.

So I remember many times I'll wake up at three o'clock in the morning and I'll be like, upset about something and my guide would say, Okay, well let's talk about it.

Three hours later, after the intense processing, I feel like I put through a meat grinder.

I'm like okay, and I get an hour of sleep or something like that.

So the initiations are happening in many different ways, whom I think got a little fuzzy there.

Speaker 3

No, that's why it would require at a higher Okay, Yeah.

Speaker 1

The initiations are happening for each person in a different way, in a different process, and it's going to mean that we have to be patient with our process and we have to surrender to it.

And that's the most difficult part.

Is it all sounds well and good to be an empowered man, but in reality, what has to happen is we're being forced into to the dark corners of our being and to go very very deep.

And it's it's like getting a teeth pulled.

You know, you went through the Dark Knight.

There's so many times you're going through these things.

It's painful, very very painful at times, but necessary.

And that's the initiation, not one initiation, not the buddeh is sitting under the boat eye tree or Jesus in the desert or whatever.

You can go through many initiations in a week or a lifebook.

Speaker 3

It's facts.

Speaker 2

And I tell this to my clients as well.

I say that it never stops.

And this is why I don't call it the Dark Knight the soul because people think it's so if I call it the refinement period, because you're constantly being refined and the temperature constantly gets hotter and hotter, so you're.

Speaker 3

Becoming purer and purer and purer, you know.

Speaker 1

Yep.

Speaker 2

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Now, let's go even deeper with Egan.

Okay, so you teach men to manage their energy, emotions and thoughts.

What's the first step to become it energetically, soffering.

Speaker 1

It's going to be the same answer.

There was a famous teacher which most people don't know about, but his name is Vernon Howard.

Maybe one in a thousand people know who he was, but he was.

He wrote a bunch of books.

He basically compiled a lot of the wisdom teachings of other teachers.

He died probably about fifteen twenty years ago.

So he had one famous phrase, we had two it's only two words, wake up.

That it would tell people wake up.

And you know, his whole thing was awareness is everything.

So what I found was that being sovereign being to being free.

The first thing is you have to be conscious if you're in the matrix, So you don't know what the ego mind you identify with the ego mind.

You look at the outer reality, go this is reality.

You feel energies, you feel, oh well, that must be me.

I'm feeling these things, I'm seeing these things, I'm thinking these things must be me.

If you don't wake up and become more mindful, you'll never be free about When I was your age, in my mid forties, I said, I got to go to the next level.

What am I going to do?

So I began studying this course.

It's an audio course.

It's called Faring Energy with your Divine Self by a woman named Samya Roman.

It's an audio course like twenty meditations or something like that.

And so the whole thing is it's a very simple process.

You connect with your divine self.

Like you said, calm you calm yourself down.

You connect with your divine self and you think of something you want to clear.

You could say so Todd, you could say, well, I got up this morning and you know I you know, I felt anxious about something.

Okay, So you do the one about clearing emotions.

So go into the thing, connect with your divine self.

Okay, what am I feeling?

Fear?

So you get you say, okay, what am I feeling?

Why?

Okay, and you trace it back to the belief for something that's going on, and then you would give it to the light, you would clear It sounds very simple, very very simple.

But what happened was is that every time I did those meditations, it was forced me to do the same thing, identify what I was feeling, really feel it, because I had I had to, I had to know what I was going to.

Okay, I'm feeling this, and I became very sensitized saying, well, I'm feeling fear, is in my stomach, is in my heart, I'm feeling anxious.

What am I feeling?

What's the belief?

And so I began to expand my awareness of really what was going on within me, not the outer world, not the mind.

From that basis, from that foundation, then when I did other spiritual work, I had that awareness.

I was in tune with myself.

I was aware and I had the connection with my soul, my spirit I called the divine self.

Other people called other things, source, God, what have you.

So that was the way to really expand my awareness, to get in touch with my power.

But that was the main thing.

Your podcast is called the Conscious Man, so people say, oh, conscious, conscious unconscious, you know, you know, you know, like what is it?

You know?

I know what conscious means.

But that's the trap.

You think you're conscious, but you're not conscious, and so wake up.

The other day, I got somebody upset and I was like kind of processing the feeling, and I said, oh, I want this from that person.

All right, Well what if I don't get it from that person?

And I cleared the energy, but I was conscious enough not to project it onto them.

They may have triggered it within me, but human beings are like oranges.

You squeeze an orange, you're gonna get orange juice out.

If you'll get upset about something somebody squeezes.

Yet whatever is inside your conscience is going to come out.

If you're in a clear space, nothing will come out.

If you're in an unconscious space, you're hiding some deep feeling, then that's what's going to come out.

So I often noticed that I'm squeezing people, and in a nice way, I squeeze on say things, and I squeeze them and they go oh, they get angry at me, and I say, what are you feeling?

What's going on?

And they'll typically project it onto me, like oh, you're this terrible person.

You made me feel too, and I'm like, no, I can't make you feel anything.

I really can't either, going to it's always you're creating your reality from your own consciousness.

So to really expand as much as you can, you've got to become more conscious.

You got to wake up and what's really going on with me.

I'm aware of the activities of my mind, but not identified with them.

I am the observer, the witness of my experience.

I'm talking to Todd at the same time, mindful of my feet are on the floor.

I can feel the temperature of my shirt.

I can observe how I'm presenting myself to Todd.

I can be aware of him.

I can project how the people you know, so I'm aware of all these multi you know different ways.

Eckar totally often does the mindfulness, being mindful, being conscious of really what's going on, really being honest with you, that's the core of all the power.

Because you don't have that, you'll always be giving your power away to something else, saying and that's where I got my power from, or that's taking it from me.

Both are lies you're creating it.

Speaker 2

I like what you said of humans that like oranges, you squeeze them and juice comes up, so that it so much saying.

It's like when you deal with people sometimes and squeezing them and what's insight in them comes out, so very very very interesting analogy.

So how consensitive or impathet men turned sensitivity into strength instead of seeing it as weakness.

Speaker 1

You use it as a navigation tool and you just accept the feelings.

There's a technique.

It's a very simple one.

I've read in a book, as I often did.

I'd read something in a book and then I would try it out and do it a thousand times and like, okay, that works or it doesn't work.

But the but the simple suggestion was whenever you're feeling something, just imagine you're surrounding that feeling or thought with love or you're surrounded by love.

Remember earlier in the podcast, I was talking about my mother and then one time for a birthday where we're like, here's your gifts, here's your wonderful thing, and she, you know, raped us over the calls.

So I wouldn't simply went back into that memory and imagine that every interaction with my mother I was surrounded by love, that every experience in my life, I was surrounded by love, and so as soon as I say that, somatically my body was strong.

You go strong, not oh I didn't get the love there.

It's like, oh, love is always on the present.

We can't see it.

But that's because we think physical reality is reality, or my mind is reality, or with the mass coms reality.

But if you brush those things aside, there's the true spiritual reality of love.

Abundance's foal acceptance.

It's a strange thing that ties into being a man.

It's gonna be a funny thing that when you die, you go to the afterlife and they go, how'd you do?

Oh?

Okay, I did at pretty good?

And they go, you know, it was all just made up.

You just kind of went to explore that you were always safe and loved no matter what you were doing.

You just believed you were a separate people.

Oh yeah, I remember now, Now I know everything in the cosmos, all this stuff I wanted to know when I was on the planet.

Now you tell me, I would have liked to have known it down there.

So we're always surrounded by love, and so even if you squeeze somebody's oranges, I still love them.

I'm very skilled to annoying people.

I'm a catalyst.

Sometimes I say things but I'm like, well, why do you say that?

Why do you feel that?

And people get mad at me, and I let them get mad and I let them think about it.

It was a woman who was bothering me, being obnoxious to me, and I said, why why are every time you see me you got meself noxious?

Oh well, you know lose you know.

Anyway, the next time I saw her, she was nicer than me because I called her on her behavior.

I didn't, I didn't make her wrong.

You're doing the best thing we know.

How when we see these human beings bumbling around the woke people who keep on telling you you shouldn't be a man, you should put on a dress any keish and you know, go out, go out with a you know, with a with a drag star.

You know, like this is this is what you should be doing, and put a bone in your nose, like, hey, I don't have any tattoos or bones in my nose.

I'm not wearing a dress or makeup, but thank you, no matter.

And I know from their beliefs is they think they're trying to help me in some way, but I can still love them.

Speaker 2

It's a weird wad trying to help someone, you know what I mean.

But I guess to each is to one.

So what's one daily practice you personally use to realign when the world feels heavy?

Speaker 1

You stay aware?

We talked about sensitive men, You stay aware.

Typically, what I'll do is I've gotten it down to a system now where if I'm feeling a little bit off, I stop connect with my divine self and whatever that energy is, I say, oh, well, let's do with this person.

I just clear it, just like i'd be clearing off a windshield or wiping off a dirty table.

I don't identify with it.

I don't make a whole story about it, or if I make a story about it, I make less of a story about it.

I don't base my reality on the ego of the echo or the impersonal energies.

I connect with my self.

For the sensitive men who struggle with other people, that's a whole other topic and a whole other conversation.

We want to be sensitive to people, but we're not a doormat.

And also, if you're a very sensitive man, I'm a very sensitive person.

I joke around, I have other strategies, but I can really I can take on the energy of another person.

I can feel what people are feeling, you know, five thousand miles away.

To be a professional psychic, I could take on any energy.

People call me up, my clients call me up.

They're not saying, hey, can you tune into this wonderful person?

They usually like, can you tune into this person having conflicts with and is very hateful towards me?

And I got to tune into that.

I'm more I love them.

Simply tune into it.

Try to see them from an expanded perspective, don't take it on.

Maintain a clear boundary practice centering the divine self.

That's the true reality.

People say, well, this is reality.

I'm on a podcast now with Todd.

This is a dream reality.

This is an experience we're having in this moment.

It's fine.

But the true reality is something that we can't understand.

But it's that connection you felt it.

You talk about your higher self and you're like, I feel the sense of well being to my body, and I feel like clear, and I have guidance, and I feel wise or compassionate.

And that's when you're plugged into your soul or your higher self or your divine self.

That's the true reality.

So the trick that we're trying to do is a sensitive men and spiritually awakening men, is to stay attuned to that reality and operate in this world with all its complexities.

Not going to do it perfectly.

You'll love days when you're maybe too weak or too strong, or you don't get it right, or you think you said the wrong thing.

There is no one right way to do it, but you can attune to that true self and use that as the tool to navigate you moment to moment.

Otherwise you're going to be pulled in by this person, that person, whatever thoughts come up.

That's the way to navigate.

Speaker 2

Okay, and you mention energy leaks.

What are some unseen wazed men lose power without realizing it.

Speaker 1

The solar plexes the state see to your personal power.

Holding my solar plexus right here, it's right above the belly button.

When I'm working with people, let's say somebody.

A lot of times I work with people with relationships for all relationships.

So nine times out of ten, if I'm working with a client, they'll say, well, I'm in a relationship with my child, or my parent or my lover or whatever.

Okay, I'll often see lines, and there's two ways that energies can link, leak, or be strengthened.

So very simple.

You go todd, you go to buy a car, and you have a car salesman who really wants to sell you a car.

Immediately you feel like this tension in your stomach because you feel like they're trying to manipulate you.

Would you like to drive the car?

What's your credit rating?

Like you know what?

And all of a sudden, they're like sucking you in.

Happened to me one time at a gym membership.

I went to go get a gym membership and I'm like, I think it's like four hundred bucks.

It was many years ago.

It's like a lifetime thing.

The guy brought me in a room talking to him.

All of a sudden, another guy is there, like blocking the door.

They were not gonna let me go until I signed up, until I got myself out of there.

But my solar plexus was like, so somebody's trying to manipulate you.

You'll see a line of light going from their solar plexus to yours.

It can look like dental floss.

It can look like a hose or like a like a like a plug, like a plug thing there.

It could be a water hose and you'll feel it.

So you could either cut it so you're sitting psychically no thank you, and you cut it, or you do the evolutionary move and you move it up into your heart.

When you connect with people on the heart level, there's no manipulation.

If somebody comes to the solar plexus and you move up the energy of your heart, they can't control you.

But that's how we make energy because we're giving power away, and you can also give power away that solar plexus to my car, my job, my identity.

You're giving an energy, you're making your power dependent upon that.

Speaker 8

When you're partner as well, Absolutely your partner whatever, even if you think you have a good relationship, you've got to meet on the heart level.

Speaker 1

But we'll see a lot of dysfunctional relationships with people where the guy, for example, could be the woman.

They're trying to go from their heart to the person's heart, but the other person is going from their solar plexus to their solo.

You'll see these sometimes on the videos on YouTube, and they're like, look, at what this woman did to this poor guy, and I'm looking at it a psychic, I'm like, yeah, I can feel the energy.

But take two people who are very loving with each other.

Let's not even talk about a man or a woman.

Just say like a mother and a child.

You know, if they have a good relationship, they're just connected on the heart them.

That's why the mother cradles the baby over her heart, connecting her heart to the baby's heart.

We hug people, we're hugging somebody.

We're connecting our hearts.

So we create it's called soul linking.

So if I think of somebody, now I do two things.

I connect with my higher self or soul.

I see that person connect with their higher self or soul through a line going up.

And then I will send a line of light from my persons my heart to that person's heart.

So we create a triangle, me to them and both of us to spirit.

And that's where we're revolving to.

In the past, it was solar plexus.

It was a patriarchal society which said do what we're telling you to do right now, follow the orders.

We also had periods in the past, as you know because you study quite a bit of history of matriarchal societies.

Some of them were lovely, some of them were just like men.

That's why you see a lot of women who were acting like men.

Oh we're the matriarchy, we're going to be we're gonna help you.

Yeah, well they could just be as bad as men.

Speaker 2

Fox.

It's true because we're all humans, so we have you know, we have similar traits, you know, in terms of on a basic level.

You know, power corrupts eventually, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

So you know, once anyone tastes the childice of power, they tend to get corrupted.

Speaker 1

That baby.

I had some of those lifetimes, and I started getting you know, when I was a younger cat.

I was in my early thirties, I was teaching and I had these classes, and like people start following me, and like students would fall in love with me, both men and women.

Can't blame them.

But I was much and I and I you know, I had more hair there too, and a nice little beard, so I was I was, I was a hot item and people start falling and they follow me around.

I was like, this is kind of weird, Like this is not It's like strange.

I don't.

I'm not I don't want to be a charismatic personality.

I have charisma, but I don't want to be it's a burden to be worshiped.

It's a very strange place.

The reason that all happened was in past times we were all connected with spirit.

When people lost connection with their spiritual connections, or like, I don't feel the power anymore, I don't know who I am.

Maybe this guy can help me.

So they created priests who say, well, I'll be the intermediary.

I have a connection with spirit.

I'm a king, I'm a priest.

Come and do what I say and I'll give you some of that connection.

And so that's what create all the intermediaries.

Now we're saying we don't need these intermediaries.

We don't need we can have our own connection with spirit.

But that's what happens when you lose your power.

I'm this little microscopic being.

I'm not the divine.

Help me.

I need Jesus, I need Buddha.

You know I need something.

And you're like all the time, you're the infinite all the time.

You just got to remember who you are and then you are connected to infinite abundance or knowledge or whatever, or power, and then you don't need to play all the games, all the power games and control games of manipulation.

We're plugging into people's solar plexes.

Do what I say.

This happens in relationships a lot.

I had to learn it because I would try to manipulate and I'm like, well and it's not working.

As I'm evolving, I have to be more co creative with everybody, whether it's a friend, whether it's a business.

I can't just force them to do what I want them to do.

I have to come to them from with my heart, you know, in a balance.

Speaker 2

Yeah, it's definitely about balance.

So which brings me onto my next question.

How can men balance ambition and alignment to create with to create without burning.

Speaker 1

Out, follow your spirit without hesitation.

I heard that phrase many many years ago.

There's something called the desire body.

So we've heard of the physical body, mental body, the emotional body, the etheric body.

But there's something called the desire body.

And as I say, they shall know exactly that you have one, because it's something that always wants more.

I can do more, I can mean more.

And the thing was is that it's like It's like a fire stove where you pour coal into it or wood into it or something.

It always wants more to feed on.

So you'll notice that in life is that no matter where you get, something says, oh, you know, I wanted that job and now I got it.

Okay, great, great, Well now I want to move up and now I want a bigger side.

Or I got this girlfriend.

Okay, that's great, and I can find a better one, or maybe I now have kids.

There's something within us and always wants more.

And your spiritual ambition, you have that great spiritual aking.

You're like, oh, I'm on top of the world, baby, I know it all.

I'm going to worship the Great Egan.

I can do it all.

And you're like, what if I could do more.

It's a spiritual ego.

It's part of the desire body, which is always wants more and it's never satisfied.

So we have to learn to say, Okay, I want more, but I also need to know when enough is enough.

But I'm ahead of the game because you can never That's why some people go crazy, because they get the top a success mountain and they're like, oh, I achieve a success and then they fail because they've done everything and they're like, what's the challenge now?

So they fail and then they have to restart over again.

They then they can fulfill their ambision of doing more.

So we have to balance and be aware of that.

There's always a part of us that wants more, more and more and more and more and more and more more, but don't identify with it.

Use that energy, but don't identify it.

Because spiritual ambition financial ambition.

I mean, at one point I was financially independent and free do whatever I want every day, and I have to worry about work and I was crawling the walls because I didn't have enough to do.

But then you don't want to create a life where you're too busy in trying to accomplish things or have too little.

You want that balance where you're just challenge enough.

You know, we have, you know, something to look forward to when you're engaged and challenge and growing, but not so much we're exhausted by it.

You don't want to get in that space and that that's taken me a while to get to that space.

Speaker 2

Yeah, definitely, it's a real struggle in that respect for men, because we either are chasing money but we have no time, or we have loads of time and no money, or we have no time and no money.

So it's a real big dichotomy that we have because especially if you have family and stuff, you work hard and you provide all of this, but you don't even spend time with your family.

So you know, I mean, there's another hit there, right, So it is challenging.

So what do you see as the biggest energetic block men bring into relationships.

Speaker 1

I mean, over the years that I work with thousands of thousands of people, the men who do the best are the ones who self validate feel good about themselves.

Now, the thing about relationships is none of them are forever.

I can test this because I've lived many lifetime.

Yeah yeah, yeah, your relationships is suddenly over.

But all relationships are temporary.

There could be five minutes, five months, five hours, five weeks, five years, five lifetimes, fifty months.

I was in a relationship with a woman earlier this year, and I had had many lifetimes.

He'd been my daughter, he had been my master when I was a slave in Rome.

Good times.

You've been my partner, so I knew her.

I know we're in the future, another lifetime where she's this sounds crazy.

She's an android.

Looking at her one day and I could see the overlay of her future face and it was like, the future life are going to be together.

You're an android, so souls can inhabit androids.

By the way, that's another thing best levels.

Yeah, that was talking about relationships.

I had had relationships where I'd meet somebody and I'd say, well, you know, they feel familiar to me and whatever.

And then i met one woman and about a couple of months and I'm like, yeah, I can now remember of the lifetimes where we were married and then this other guy killed me over you, and then he became your husband and we knew the other guy, and I'm like okay.

And then this past year I met a woman and I was like a very comfortable with her.

We clicked and I started having all the recall of all the lifetimes.

I'd be looking at her and I would see the overlays of her other faces on her, and it was and then her personality would change.

One moment She's very docile, like my child, and then the other moment she was like my master and you know you better, you know, like a coldness in Rome.

My story was I was.

I was an African slave, same same charming egan, but just in a different different color.

And we were I was a porter, so I was part of a of a were we were like porters for like these traders.

And so they did a little sneaky trick on us.

We went all over the con and all over Asia, and we got to Rome.

We thought, okay, hey dang, we'll pick up a new gig and head back home.

No, they saw this at this we're all black, you know what, we're traders.

We can make money selling you.

And so we were slaves because technically even though we were reporters, that were not free men.

I became Menicusts.

That was my Roman name, and I had a mistress and I had to serve the household and I kept on trying to escape and eventually they killed me.

So they would have Roman parties, So before TV and the internet, what did you do?

You drank and you had sex.

So they'd say, hey, you know, it would be fun.

Let's have a party together and get our slaves in there and have sex with them.

Yeah, let's do that.

Good times.

So you know that's what ended up.

So I'm in a relationship with a woman.

I'm like, well, i'sed to be a slave, and I had to be her sex slave at times, you know, you know, so these are the things that can happen.

And so I was like, this created many interesting scenarios between us.

I'm like, okay, so, but then there were other things I had in another lifetime.

Wanted to run away with her, and I wanted to become on my master.

I want to go to the esoteric school.

So I said, I love you, but I can't be with you, and I just I abandoned her.

So she went off with some other guy, and then in this life she married that same guy and divorced him.

And then I met her, and then subconsciously I was trying to get with her so I could marry her because I felt guilty about abandoning her and her getting into relationship with a guy who she didn't really like.

So we had a lot of inter just in conversations, and she was not as conscious at me.

So if you come back to the question about, you know, the biggest blocks to being a man, I would say there's ones for regular member for conscious men being able to share these very deep and profound experiences with somebody who can receive them.

So I started sharing with him, and she wasn't exactly open.

It was with another metaphysical woman.

She would totally get what I was talking about and would love that I was sharing them.

Speaker 2

Yeah, yeah, I agree because I find through this, Yeah, I find that as I have, as I continue to walk this path.

Relationships are a challenge, but a challenge in the sciense where you have to be very cautious on how you share because what happens is that if you meet someone that maybe at the beginning did journey.

From my experience, you have to be very patient and not dumped a lot of information because it can overload them and that can really cause a block in the relationship.

But then at the same time, if you don't share anything, then it's almost like they don't really know how you are who you are.

So it is a real balance in terms of you got.

Speaker 1

To plan seeds.

One time one of my spirit guides, I was like, these people I tell them a thousand times, they don't get it.

And my spirit guy was like, Releagan, We've told you the same thing a thousand times and you don't always listen.

I was like, ah, you guys, and I was like, you're right.

So I found that My sense was that sometimes I'll say something to somebody and they don't understand it, but later on they will, because that happened with me.

And so when I was in the relationship with the woman, I was like, she was complaining about her ex husband.

I go, you know what, we all agree to do this.

I go, you're complaining about him, But I'm not perfect.

You have things, and you chose to be in a relationship even though you knew there were problems, and you didn't divorce them until later on.

So I was kind of making a responsible She got mad at me, but I was speaking the truth because if I tell somebody you're a victim, the balance is that's terrible that that happened to you.

I'm so sorry you had that experience.

What could you have done differently?

Sometimes you can do something differently, sometimes you can.

Sometimes horrible things happen to somebody.

I don't want to make them guilty or a victim.

But on the other hand, it all depends on how you respond.

Voltaire said, you can't always choose the cards you're dealt with, but you can choose how you play them.

So sometimes I've had terrible things happen to me and I said, how can I use this to buy advantage?

That's another man thing.

How can I make this thing work for me?

So sometimes we have to plan seats and confront women and say this, this and this and this, and they don't like it and they get mad or they misunderstand you.

But they need to hear that message, just like I needed to hear messages that I didn't want to hear from other people.

Are like I don't want to hear that, and then later on I'm like, you know what, they're right, I just didn't feel good in my ego.

Thank you, Then you're grateful.

That's the paradox.

You become grateful to the people who upset you because you realize they were actually trying to help you evolve.

Speaker 2

Yeah, accountability for a lot of women is like kryptonite to Superman.

Speaker 3

To be honest with you.

Speaker 2

Oh so ah, it's true, right, But I know I can get a lot of talks with that.

But it's a fact and I stand on it because it's fact, and I believe in living in a fact based reality.

Speaker 3

So it is what it is.

Speaker 2

So how can a conscious man stay strong and heart open.

They faced with emotional conflict.

Speaker 1

I had something recently.

I was dating a woman and she had the political discussion, and again another person had different politics.

She was very liberal.

So I said one thing and she launched at me.

It feel all the emotion.

So I listened the strategies.

It is not you diffuse a bomb.

I listened, listened, and I said, I understand what you're saying because of these different experiences.

And here's my experience.

You know, it's not a problem for me that you have different beliefs or whatever.

And I just treated her with a respect, and then later on she said, thank you for listening.

The previous person I dated, the one who I told with all the multiple lives, which was several months back, more or less, had the same thing.

But she was younger and less mature, and she couldn't admit that I was saying anything that was true.

Even when I was telling her the facts.

She said, Elon Musk wants to destroy humanity and go to other planets.

So I googled it.

I found the quote, and the quote was Elon Musk was saying, eventually we'll go to other planets and nobody will be on earth.

That's a lot different than saying you want to destroy humanity.

So I told her that, and she didn't like that, because I was just saying what the facts are.

I said, I can understand people hate Elon Musk because he has so much money.

But the thing is the guy has made of the tons of people huge amounts of money.

When he's added to the economy and made people millionaires and billionaires, and his innovations.

He's not supposed to be a perfect human being, but his work it's like amazing.

So it's like Bill Gates.

I don't like Bill Gates.

He's a shady character.

But Windows and the guy who created Apple jobs, they weren't perfect to him big, but look what they did.

We could on this little machine.

Speaker 6

I can.

When I was a kid, I had like a little digital watch that could tell me the time and that, and now I could talk to people all over the world and and do like play games, and I could just live with this thing on an island and I could like, you know, see at night and take pictures.

Speaker 1

I mean, when people complain about things about people who are you know, these innovations and technocrats, well they don't know how good they have it, but fact checking and accountability, which you just said.

Yeah, one thing about being a guy is you have to learn that rarely where they take accountability.

Sometimes they well the mature ones will a lot of Yeah, yeah, definitely get to build that in as you're confusing the bomb.

Speaker 3

Yeah, and you know, you know what the thing is.

I blame men.

Speaker 2

It is men's fault.

Women are like that because we over uh compliment them.

We over edestal pedestal that's the word.

Speaker 3

It's looking.

We over pedestalize women.

Speaker 2

So what happens that funny time they get like fourteen, all the way up to when they're older, they have this bubble reality that we men have created because we give them a lot of attention because men want to have sex with women, but we don't tell them the truth because we want to have sex with them.

Speaker 1

But I think the best thing for a guy to do is don't be nice to women.

This is difficult for a sense of new age guy.

The less nice I am to them, the more they allow me.

Speaker 2

I agree, one hundred percent.

And so that people can get where where it can come from.

There's some nuance to that in a science that I think that being nice is merited because being nice means doing nice things.

So they have to earn the fact that you will invest time, money, and energy.

And then so the same way that we have to earn the right to sleep with them, they have to earn the right to get our time, money, and attention and resources.

So if you actually look at it like that, where if they're red flags, just don't deal with the women because certainly, if you, as a man, are a red flag to woman, she's not going to deal with you for the most part.

Right.

But because we men are so basic and simple where we just want to have sex, it's that primal instinct.

We will just put up with anything.

We will give away everything just to get our rocks off.

And I think that men now have to take back their power and our relives.

Hold on a minute, while women are just human beings, they have flaws, they're not perfect, and we must treat them the same way we treat men, in the sense of like men have to earn other men's respect, so women has to earn our respect.

So we don't give them nice treatment if they don't deserve nice treatment.

If they deserve nice treatment, absolutely give them nice treatment.

But because we have because of basic needs, just want to have sex.

We've over pedestalized them, told them they're beautiful men.

Some of them really aren't, you know what I mean.

We've not told them the truth because we want.

Speaker 3

To have sex.

Speaker 2

And if we stay focused on well, no, we have standards, then what happens that they will respond to us because women generally respond to men.

We don't respond to them.

They respond to how we act and react.

And if we're soft, not on our mission, have no purpose, we are not safe pair of fans.

They will react to us like that and treat us the way they that we treat ourselves.

So in reality, if you become a man that is driven on your purpose, you know, fair, firm, you know, have kindness compassion in your heart, but you have the respect fact to build in so that they earn your respect, which means your time, money, energy, and resources.

I think there will be a lot more balance in the world in terms of social denaments between men and women.

But because we have lost our way as men, and you know, I mean, women are just responding to who we are because we're lost, so they're even more lost.

Speaker 1

Right, It's it's the same culture Si M P.

The same cultures, only fans, and so now you join on the only fans and I'll pay you money every month and you know, send me photos and everything.

And so I was watching these crazy stories about some wealthy people would give like like one hundred thousand dollars.

I mean, they would give like crazy amounts of money, and I'm like, what is the matter with you?

I mean, because they're like, oh, she's beautiful.

And then and then the other thing is if you go out in public, a lot of women are just you know, they're not always easy to approach.

I'm a charming guy.

I can go in a room and I'm working that room.

Baby, I'm going there and I'm talking to these people and I'm very charming, and sometimes just they're just like they're just like a coldness of people in general.

With the culture, at least in America.

Latin American countries are a lot different.

There's a different approach there in Each country has a little you know, you've been around, so you know the different places.

But sometimes they're very they're very cold.

And so what finds as you're having a battle.

But the thing too is if you're not if you're not in your male energy it throws everything off.

My mother died when she was sixty five.

She got in a car accident.

She got a little bit mixed up with alcohol and some other things.

She was unhappy, She was struggling with a lot of things.

And I think she was very intelligent.

She felt frustrated by her life in different ways, and it just was not a good story.

And there were conflicts with how my stepfather had been the relationship with her with her because he wasn't always very masculine.

One time, I remember she was digging at him and he finally said shut up, and she like paid attention.

I mean, I think it was the only time I ever told her like that to shut up, you know.

And I was like, thank god, it's one for our team, you know whatever.

Other times he was just a lapdog all the time and oh well, you know, and whenever and I saw her do you know, treat him horribly unlike.

And then I have another relative.

It was happening with another relative of mine where I was hanging out with them and he was simping with it, was trying, oh can I help you whatever, and she's like get away, get it, And I was like, I was like what am.

I like, he came like a four year old man, like four years old, and I saw him revert to like being a child, and I'm like, he goes, well, do you want to stay over to my house?

I'm like, I'm like, I'm not staying over your house.

Your wife is treating you like a child.

It's like, what, like you know what my mother used to do?

And I'm like, get hold of yourself, you know, what are you doing?

But then I realized that I still do things like that.

I would try to kiss up, you know, I would try to be you know, loving, you know whatever, and not to that extreme, but I would do because I'm trying to Women are like a mystery, like they're a puzzle.

Does this piece go here?

No, okay, let me try another piece.

You keep getting in there, trying to talk to them whatever, And the thing is they don't even know what they want.

That's the cosmic joke, my friend.

Women don't know what they want.

So then you're trying to understand them.

You're trying understand something that can't be understood.

Speaker 7

You know what.

Speaker 2

That is so well said, because women don't really know what they want, and men should just stop trying to figure women out.

And well, true some you know, a lot of them don't.

But a lot of them don't.

You know, there's some that definitely know.

But I repeat that.

I think that when men first stay focused on the internal journey, their purpose, their mission, what they're here to do, add value to society, contribute, stand on business, then you will find that the women will respond because the problem.

The thing is that men and women have different journeys, and we are the ones that are built differently, so we have the harder job to do.

So we have to get on that job and work on ourselves.

And when we do that, we find that the women will get in line and they will follow us because we become a safe pair of hands and because we're not simps.

Then, because if no men, if no men are patrona is indy only finds girls, they will start because there'll be go broke.

But because there are too many sames, they can do it because the men are paying for it.

Speaker 1

You know.

Speaker 2

So what advice would you give to men who feel lost between career success and sole purpose?

Speaker 1

Wave down a UFO, go to a planet where the women time.

I mean, I mean I've been trying to wave down I go out at night with the lights and I'm like, can anybody?

But what was the question?

Again?

I do my comedy mad.

Speaker 3

Sure, sure, Sure?

Speaker 2

What advice would you give men who feel lost between career success and soul purpose?

Speaker 1

It doesn't matter how successful you in your career.

You know, It's funny.

You'll see like very successful men who like achieve everything and they're like, okay, well now what So that's a trap.

If you're just always doing the career stuff, you kind of lose out on the personal growth and the relationships.

You just do the personal relationship, you lose a part of yourself.

I don't know the answer, because there's never perfect balance.

I think it's hit and miss.

There were years with my spirituality where I couldn't be in a relationship.

I was a basket case.

I had to go deep deep inner work, and I was stretching myself.

I had no business being in a relationship my friend and I would be no good to anybody.

And other times my noses to the grindson I'm working in my business.

I did a ton of stuff this year with my website and shooting videos and hanging out with you and you know, other events and everything like that and then didn't always have time for a relationship.

So I don't know if there's really an answer.

I would say the most important thing is to be conscious.

Find your connection with God, whether it's Hagan or a Wickan or whatever religion, find that connection of that spiritual guidance, and then find a purpose in life.

We all need a purpose.

I mean, you know, even if even if you tomorrow you won the lottery Todd, you know, what are you gonna do all day?

You know, sit around eating chocolate pudding, you know, watching reruns of Friends.

I mean, no, you're gonna be out doing stuff.

You can't just sit around doing nothing.

But we're getting addicted to these computer screens.

We're getting very soft, like that movie Wallie where they're just every's fat, Loo can be fat.

People are here.

Even I have a little bit of weight and I'm fairly got to high metabolism.

Speaker 2

This thing.

Speaker 1

We're becoming very very fat, you know, very complacent and everything like that.

If you have a strong purpose, it's something that's bigger than you.

Not just I got to pay these bills.

But I want to help humanity.

I want to add beauty into the world or do something good for the world.

That's a noble purpose.

That's that's the modern day warrior of how can I not hurt other people, but how can I uplift them with something great that I can put out in the world.

You're doing this podcast, this is something great, so you have that.

But another guy, if he's just going to his job and he's making sure his kids are fed and his wife is okay, that's a noble purpose too.

It's different for each man, but they'll know what their purpose is.

It could be raising animals, it could be being kind to other people, or mowing your lawn and having a nice house.

You know, sometimes that's what that guy's able to do based on their level of awareness.

But do something of beauty, add something of value to the world, and you'll add your own value and feel purposeful.

Because the worst thing is people who don't have a purpose.

That's why they're easily led astray.

People on welfare are like, take that welfare away and make them work, make them have a purpose in life.

Don't let them just sit around all that it's the worst thing to do.

Or give them enough money, but make them work in some other way, have a purpose, and you'll be.

Speaker 2

A real man, Yeah, I agree.

I think that purpose is the thing that lacks most in many today.

And the thing is why I'm realizing is that all of us innately have a unique purpose here on earth and a unique talent to give the world.

Because all of us can be podcasters and all of us can't be you know, manifestation, gurgle coaches, et cetera.

However, you could be a person that is really really skilled at, say, editing videos, and you could work with a person that has a podcast to help that person produce the podcast.

So you're part of a team that is basically helping to touch, move and inspire others.

So you be still in your purpose.

So my point here is that it's very much about finding the thing that you are good at, the thing that you are that you like to do, and being part of something that adds change and adds value to people.

And then you will have more fulfillment in your life because going to work and just working a job on paying bills, okay, and having a family.

I mean, I don't have children, but I have mates to have children, and obviously they say great things about having a family, but there's more to life than that.

Your purpose is something that I mean is bigger than you write something that you can leave a legacy.

You could say, well, you're a part of something.

And this is one of the things that I tried to, you know, tell people about and bring on guests that would gat them up and you know, put that fire back in their bellies to find their purpose in life.

Like she was said, pick up your cross and follow him.

Speaker 1

You know.

Speaker 2

So how can how can men support feminine energy, whether in partners or the collective without losing their center, wave.

Speaker 1

Down a ufl and go to another plan.

I'm trying to have a big We're always at the end of our thing, so I'm trying to make a good wrap up.

I just find men love women.

We know how to you know, appreciate them.

I would say one thing I had, the one thing that really helped me was conscious communication.

I learned non violent communication NVC.

I think it's called compassionate communication now, and I learned different processes and we go to workshops and everything, and I find just being honest.

As I get older, it gets easier, but just being honest and honoring.

I feel like if you honor yourself as a man, you'll honor that woman as a person.

It's only when we lose that connection with our own selves.

So it's always a two way street.

You have to honor yourself and you'll honor other person appropriate.

If you honor that other person at the expense of yourself, you're not in right relationship with that person.

The best way we can relate to women is with love and compassion and loving the shadow.

Excepting that there's going to be messiness.

There's an idea that you're going to find the per person or your soul man or or a twin flame, and if you just take this course and perfect yourself, you'd be in the right vibration.

There's always going to be wrinkles, there's always going to be challenges, so make it okay.

They're a human being having experience too.

You can love all the parts of them, and in a way, by doing that, you're loving all of your parts.

You're loving all of your shadow and making it okay because there is no perfection, just what you're experiencing.

Speaker 2

So do you think men and women are meant to evolve together or must men evolve first internally before harmony as possible.

Speaker 1

I don't know if I know the answer to that.

There's so many different types of relationships.

I've seen where men were more advanced and where women were more advanced, or maybe you wouldn't consider them spiritual and in me a physical sense, but they were doing good things in the world.

I don't know, there's eight billion people on this planet accounting there are many different realities.

Sometimes when we ask these questions, it depends on what reality you're in.

You know, if we were like Amish people and they have very clear delineations of what their society is, that's perfectly what they're doing.

For me and for you as conscious men.

Yeah, I don't want a woman who's going to be that submissive, you know, and me calling all the shops all the time.

I have to have like a balance and good communication.

So in terms of evolution, everybody's at a different stage, and that's why there's no consensus reality because I'm like, we're a certain point and I look at other people and I'm like, this guy's only had three lifetimes.

How much is he going to know?

They can't.

They're still adjusted to being in a human body.

And some people are more advanced than us where they don't have the obnoxiousness and qualities that I have, and they seem to evolve beyond them, so they have different type of relationships.

So I don't know.

We're all in different spaces in different places.

Speaker 2

Okay, So what does the next generation of conscious men look like to you?

Speaker 1

Physically strong, more balanced, but basically reflectors of spirit.

They're still connected to their higher selves that they're more integrated and balanced, you know, still strong still men, but grounded in that blending of their masculinity.

But the divine masculine.

That's where we have to go.

It can't just be from being strong or you know, this or that or career.

It has to be like the wisdom and the love of the divine expressing through the male consciousness.

And we're getting there bit by.

Speaker 2

Bit, well we are, we have a lot more work to do still, cod still too many simps, so they're simping.

Speaker 7

Not sure.

Speaker 2

So what's your message to men who feel they've lost their faith in the world or in themselves other than.

Speaker 1

Waving down the UFO thing.

The key thing is, because I went through some dark periods, you always are going to go back to your solar or higher self and sort of replenish yourself there, find a purpose, the purpose you know, if somebody works in a restaurant, whether they're making the food or a waiter, they keep people alive pretty important.

If you're a garbage man, you're keeping the environment clean from pestilence, pretty important.

So find dignity with whatever you're doing.

Martin Luther King said something about that, because if you're a street cleaner, be the greatest street cleaner you can be.

Be like an artistic, you know, person with it.

Find dignity.

Don't let other people tell you who you are.

Some people, when I tell them a spiritual teacher into this stuff, they go, ah, what are you talking about.

You're making it all up.

You're crazy.

And I'm like, well, but you know, I know I'm doing, you know, helping somebody out there.

So I have to it's self acknowledgment.

Find that self acknowledgement.

Find people who be supportive of you.

Find other men.

I go to a men's group twice a month.

I go hang out with other men.

We talk about men topics, and because there's so many women in spirituality, you can get lost in their issues.

But you're a spiritual guy, find other spiritual men to hang out with, to do things with, and then you'll find balance, but find purpose.

If you're in a tough spot, get help, come to somebody like Todd or me or another male coach, watch a video, do something and find your balance.

But don't try to do it alone all the time, because you can't.

You need other men.

You need the people to help you out.

Speaker 3

Folks.

Speaker 2

Folks, I find out men today lack brotherhood, and I think that you know with sure as let this know, we're changing that tide of not having brotherhood.

We're creating a really good community over here.

So yeah, totally called curve review.

So we'll get you on this one.

If every man listening took one step toward So if every man listening took one step today toward enlightenment, what would that be.

Speaker 1

Realize that you're already enlightened, You are in the light, Your essence is light, and focus on that, not so much on trying to get there, that's an illusion, but knowing that you are the light, you are the divine, you are the infinite, you are infinity incarnate.

And start off with that thought, what if I was infinity incarnate, what if I was already in light?

And act that way, Act that way, you will become that way.

Speaker 2

Very simple think and you become and us do as you say.

You know, so, Egan, this has been an awesome conversation.

So please tell the lovely guys at the Conscious Mind seven podcast where they can fund you.

You can plug any books or anything you have if you want to work with you, oh not kind of good stuff where they can fund you and stuff like that.

Speaker 1

Please make all checks payable to Egan Sanders.

I have a website, egansanders dot com, and I also have a YouTube channel I think, Yeah, I have a YouTube channel.

We can maybe put it in the chatter or something like that, and I've been doing videos on that and that channel is typically called Egan Sanders Men's Enlightenment Coach.

But my main if you go to Egan Sanders dot com, that's the best way to reach me.

I work by phone most of the time, although I do live classes and online stuff.

But yeah, just reach out.

I can add to the mailing list.

And again I have clients all over the world that I work with, men mostly, although I still love some female clients for some reason.

They do show up from time to time by events.

Yeah, but Egan Sanders dot com.

Sanders like the Colonel.

Speaker 2

Okay, awesome and everything egan will be in the description of this podcast.

Okay, so guys, so you know, this has been an awesome conversation and one of the things that we touched on today is that being in physically good shape is part of the journey to being a man, and also women as well need to be in physically good shape.

With Christmas coming up now, we are entering the season of gluttony, which means that you most likely will put on another three to five kilos in the next few weeks.

Come January, you will be fatter and fatter.

So if you would like to get into the best ship of your life, avoid that three to five kilos of seasonal weak again.

And you would like to also work with someone who will work help you improve mentally, physically and spiritually, hit me up on my Instagram at h van Underscore two four to six or my name Todd Cave on Facebook.

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Speaker 1

Nice.

Speaker 2

So we have it in various colors of red, blue, green, whatever color you like.

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Speaker 3

And if you are on a.

Speaker 2

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So if you would like to, you know, assess your subconscious mind because as Egan said today, the subconscious mind is where everything exists.

And you would like some help to overcoming some challenges, some mental blocks and stuff.

Magic mushrooms is a great modality to use.

So hit me up on my Instagram at Adrianna Underscore two four six, or my name Todd Keve on Facebook and I will help you to get some magic mushrooms.

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Speaker 3

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Speaker 2

So if you would like to, you know, support this podcast and help us in our journey, help us grow as we are getting some really interesting guests and we're looking to step up production of podcasts and bringing out two a week.

And if you would like to help us to take this to the next level, please consider being a Patreon or locals member because that will help us with editing and spending some time to research some cool other guests like Egan.

So Egan, this has been an awesome, awesome conversation.

So guys, if today's conversation with Egan opened up your heart or mind, share it right now with a man who's ready to awaken, subscribe, comment, and join our growing community at the conscious Man seven podcast.

Remember, consciousness spreads the more we live it.

Let's evolve together.

This has been another episode of the conscious Man seven podcast where we have conversations that go deeper than the average podcast and challenge the taboos that limit us in our thinking.

Egan, thanks again for being a guest on the Conscious Man seven podcast.

Until next time, folks, stay conscious, stay connected, challenge your beliefs and come out of your comfort zone.

Keep smiling, keep shining, and keep being the change you want to see.

Speak to you soon.

Speaker 3

Cheers and the last day.

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