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Episode #108 - Escaping the Cult: Isabella Young’s Untold Story
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He told me that if I left him, when I left my body, my screams would reverberate throughout the universe.
When I realized the mistake that I've made by leaving him, I had.
Speaker 2To take full responsibility because I got him.
The accident in two thousand and five brought my ankle.
Speaker 1And right now we're going from with the age of Pisces to the age of Aquarius.
So Pisces very much top down power control structure, and Aquarius is very much egalitarian way of being.
Speaker 2Thoughts only become real when they're clothed in feelings.
And that is so true because you can have a thought, and it's only until you associate a feeling with that thought that it starts to vibrate in you to be real.
So if you started to think something, well, this guy really upsets me, there's a delay between your ass we're feeling of anger and the thought actually occurring.
Speaker 1Before I came to the States, I was probably fairly anti gun laws, you know, I was all just caught up in that mentality.
And now I'm like, no, no, no, no, I'm so go out.
I'm here in this country where there are people who are arn't because it is necessary to take a stand against tyrants.
Speaker 2So what role do conscious men play in rewriting the narrative of power, love and protection?
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Imagine surviving a cult that stole your freedom, shattered your family, and nearly destroyed your spirit.
My guest today Isabella Young, live through this night Mayor and turned it into a story of liberation, healing, and empowerment.
Hello friends, welcome back to the conscious Man seven Podcasts.
I am your host, Todd Cave.
Seventeen years ago, Isabella escaped a messianic cult after the tragic murder of her son, a crime meant to silence the truth about abuse and corruption.
But instead of being broken, she transformed her pain into purpose.
Today, Isabella is an author, healer and guide who helps others break free from fair gas lighting and mind control.
Not only in cults, but in the broadest systems of control that shape or society.
This conversation is going to be raw, courageous, and transformative.
If you've ever wondered how to recognize manipulation, how to reclaim your power after trauma, and how to build a sovereign life rooted in love and freedom, this is the episode you cannot miss.
Speaker 3When truth is blurred by lies and misinformation, perception becomes reality.
What will you perceive your reality to be?
Liberate your fears and walk with.
Speaker 2Me, sit down and meditate, connect with your.
Speaker 4Son, be a monster, and then learn how to control it.
And you've got to be.
Speaker 1Willing to do the work.
Speaker 2So it really goes really deep in terms of words and etymology and what they mean.
So this is why it is really hard to really crack natures, because there's so many levels and layers to it, you know.
Isabella A warm welcome to the Conscious Man seven podcast.
How are you today?
Speaker 1I'm extremely well, Todd, Thank you so much for that fabulous introduction.
I'm very much looking forward to our conversation today and sharing what I've learned from my experiences with you and your audience.
Speaker 2Yes, I am really excited at honored to have you on the show because looking you up, your story is quite both tragic and inspiring at the same time.
And you know, I find that today because we have a lot of stuff going on in the world, I think that a lot of people have lost hope, a lot of people have given up.
And the point of this conversation is to help show people that you can rise from whatever difficulty you've had in life, even if you've had tragedy, because I mean, like I said, you lost your son, and for any mother to lose a child, I mean, death in general is just hard, hard, you know, to be whether it's your mother, father, sister, brother, death is hard, so some people.
Because I had a guy or my show before that he is a grief coach, and he said that he's seen people that have stayed in the exact same grief for years and years and years, like ten to fifteen years, with no sort of reconciliation, no sort of movement, no sort of like draw langleysstand to move on.
And what you've been through could have easily made you stay there, but you chose to rise.
So I'm really honored to taught to you today.
So for those meeting you for the first time, What was the moment you realized that you had to escape the cult?
And what gave you the strength to do it?
Speaker 1Like, so that's basically Dart, Let's dive in at the deep.
Speaker 2End absolutely.
Speaker 1Well.
The moment I realized that I had to escape the cult was basically the moment I realized I was in a cult.
Because I didn't know that I was in a cult.
I thought I was in an ashram with my gurup.
I had been on a spiritual path for like thirty years.
I came out of a family of My mother was an atheist, and I grew up without any connection to God.
In fact, I thought God was everyone who believed in God was beneath me, a weak, pathetic human being.
And I had my spiritual awakening in my twenties and then I actually the man who was my first husband was instrumental in my awakening to there being more to life than it's perceivable through the five senses.
He gave me books to read like autobiography of Yogi, and that really just opened my mind and we started a life together.
We both worked in the outdoor education field.
I was working with young people who had been diagnosed with different mental illnesses, and he worked with in the corporate field, but basically using nature and the outdoors and the wilderness as a as a like a place for personal growth.
And I was three months pregnant with our second child and he'd gone off to work.
He just started a new company.
It was a first day on the job.
At about ten o'clock in the morning, I got a knock on the door from the local policeman and the neighbor who told me he'd been found dead in his car.
And that was just I just wanted to die in that moment.
That was the end of my relationship with my soulmate, the end of our dream to have a permaculture farm together and a life together.
Basically, family was all gone in that instant, and I wanted out.
It was just too it was unbearable.
But I had a three year old and I was pregnant, so I didn't feel I had the right to take my own life and leave mess behind.
So I traveled around a lot trying to I couldn't stay on the farm anymore because that was a chop wood, carry water type situation.
I just couldn't do that on my own, so I had to leave there and then basically spend years trying to figure out what to do with my life, where to be, you know, where to put down roots because nothing felt right.
And I, through a prophetic dream, moved to a town called Healsville ironically called Heelsville outside of Melbourne and got involved in a Steiner community there.
And I was also continuing to do some shamanic journey with a community that I'd connected with in the Yarra Valley.
And I did this course called Dying to Live, which was a sensory deprivation course in preparation for a death experience.
And that so we stayed blindfolded and in silence except for when we're in the temple space, and that's when we wrote our wills and eulogies and letters of forgiveness in preparation for this death experience.
On the last morning, which was really a guided meditation, and I just remember the words merkaba and anti karana, and I just had this massive out of body experience and was told that a number of things.
One of them was it was time to start training this particular person who I only heard of before.
He was presenting himself as a trance channel, and when I came back from that experience, it took me a while to get coagulated again.
I called him and told him what had happened, and he said, come to train with him in his ashram in California.
So I went with my children to what I thought was in his ashram, his community.
He had disciples.
He was proclaiming himself as the Messiah, the second coming of Christ, the kalthiavata in of the savior of humanity, and we were all there to help his mission, so that I was so vulnerable to being taken in by a cult leading.
I did want a family, I did want a father for my children.
I did want to help humanity, and I did want to heal because I knew I was pretty fucked up.
So it all dovetailed into me getting into this situation.
And it was pretty pretty clear fairly early on that there's something wasn't right, and it was particularly with him, but he would always say it was me.
I was the wounded one, and once I got through all my issues, then you know, would it all be love and roses.
But that's not how it turned out.
It was hell on earth.
He was a tyrant.
He punished people for not doing what he wanted in the right time or in the right way with the right attitude.
And the punishments included writing lines of affirmation like I am obedient to my Guru, or for me, it was I'm the wife of Christ.
You know.
I had to write it ninety times a day, three times a day for ninety nine days.
And the one who got the worst punishments was my son because he was able to see through the facade through he could see the lies.
He could he knew about the hypocrisy, and you know, he could see what was going on, so he was often defiant and he was getting a lot of punishments.
And this went on.
I just couldn't find I just couldn't find a way out because I ended up marrying him, so I was locked in in the legal sense of the word.
We also had sex one time to consummate the marriage, and I got pregnant and he never touched me again for the entire eight years that I was there.
So we had a child together and that so that trapped me again.
And also he said that he's my guru.
He's the only one who knows who I truly am, and is able to go to the fullness of my expression of my soul of some bullshit.
And I believed him because I knew I was wounded and I knew I needed help.
So I felt stuck.
And about seven years into this cult situation spoiler alert, my son came home from school one day and he was really upset and didn't want to talk about it.
So I said, why don't you, why don't you go to bed and we'll talk about it in the morning.
And in the morning he was gone, and I knew immediately that there was a problem, and we called his friends, looked for him, and reported him missing to the police by the end of that day, and the next day the cult leader sent his assistant to look for him.
Behind the house.
There was a wooded area, and my son's body was found with a knife wound to his neck and a kitchen knife next to his body.
And that was immediately fraimed as my son had committed suicide because he found out it was gay and that he that was unacceptable to him, and he knew that would be unacceptable to me, so he took his life.
And there were such evil, heenous lies.
I find out later that my son was actually allegedly, i'm supposed to say, murdered because he was being groomed because while I was in a celibate marriage, that was not true for the cult leader.
He was grooming the boys and he was basically fucking all the guys in the colt and then he had his own Tinder dates and.
Speaker 2So he was having sex with the boys.
Speaker 1Yeah.
No, he apparently the autopsy showed that my son, his body wasn't sexually violated, but I'm pretty sure he was being groomed.
He was being set up because we found out later that there were two other boys in the cult in Melbourne and they both were sexually abused later on.
So it was only through them speaking up that I put two and two together and realized what was what had happened.
So after that I didn't even want to breathe again.
I just went from breath to breath for about six months, the same thing.
I've got two children and didn't want to put them through the losing their mother as well, so I had to stay alive, and I knew I really needed help, so I went to see this guy who'd been the cult counselor, because in addition to having sessions with the guru and kinesiology sessions and all, you know, because we were so emotionally wounded us all in the cult, you needed all the help we could get.
There was this guy who was the counselor, and I'd never gone to see him while I was in the cult, because yeah, I was pretty disobedient.
I didn't do everything I was told.
But after my son died, I went to see him.
And when I walked in the door, he said, I knew you'd come and see me one day.
You know you're in a cult, don't you.
And I said, no, I don't know I'm in a cult.
I thought I was in a nush run with my guru.
And he said, go home and google cult characteristics, which is what I did, and sure enough, there's the list of the charismatic leader, who's the arbitrator of truth, who controls everyone's everything.
You know, how much is sleep, what you eat, who you're in a relationship with, whether or not you're having sex or children, you know what you do during the day.
And then you know there's the love bombing, so I'm the most beautiful in the woman in the world, followed by hate bombing and I'm the Antichrist, and then there's the psyops, which is psychological operations.
They went on all the time.
He said that when I was pregnant that I was carrying the Lord Ganesha, who's the Hindu deity the remover of obstacles, So you know, she's come to remove all the obstacles between me and God and between humanity and God and all that.
So you know, that was a real mind fuck for us all the deal with, especially because she was daified and my children were post to worshiper, so there was so much.
The kids were really abused emotionally and mentally, and I know I have to deal with the guilt for that too.
They were also my son was abused physically, like he was made to eat out of a dog bowl in front of people, and stuff like just horrible stuff.
And once I realized that I was in a cult, I knew I had to get out.
So I'm pretty sure he finally let me go.
He wasn't going to let me go, he was holding that the legal thing over me and whatever, but I think he knew he was going to have another death on his hands if he made me stay there.
So I left and took my youngest child and we went.
The other one was in Australia with my family and we moved to Kawai, which is when I was able to start understanding what happened to me and start the healing journey which is ongoing.
Speaker 2Okay, so well what a story.
So let me take a step back.
Didn't you not?
What was the point that you realized were in a cult?
Because was it when do you mean to see the the therapist or kin theology, kinesiologists or is it before then you had feelings the kiff you were in a cult, but you just were ignoring it just to believe.
What was the moment then that you realize, ah, I'm in a cult.
Speaker 1Well, when we were in the cult, there was always the joke about we were the cult that wasn't a cult.
There are all those other ones, the cults.
But he's the real deal, right, He's the Messiah, So this is not this is the not cul cult.
So things didn't feel right.
But the actual moment that I realized it was when I went through that checklist of cults.
Uh, you know the characteristics of a cult, you know, the tithe, the money, the tithing, the charism leader, charismatical leader, the gas lighting.
The gas Oh my god, I actually learned all about what that meant and then realized, oh I can I now know that was what happen was happening to me from day one.
I remember early on when I got there first, I came without the children and I so it was like the housekeeper of his house for a month.
And I remember he sent me to the supermarket and coming from Australia, they're all different brands.
So he tells me to get these different brands of things, and when I bought them home, he told me that's not what I told you to get.
So that was like day week one.
So we're seven years into him saying what I said or didn't say.
He said this, and as you know about gas lighting, it just makes you crazy, makes you doubt yourself, second guess yourself, and eventually lose your mind.
And that's what's happened to me.
But the actual moment was when I read through that checklist.
And this brings me to another point that I've liked to speak about, and that's I know some cult experts say, don't tell people that they're in cults because you'll just drive them further in and create more of a division between you and that person.
But if someone hadn't told me I was in a cult, I don't know when when I would have woken up to it.
I think that everyone, includes especially me, would have suffered a lot more if I hadn't been made aware of that.
And then I found out years later that my parents, who divorced most horribly when I was twelve, never did anything together, actually went along to see a cult expert within a year of me leaving Australia.
And they never said a word.
No one ever said that, no friends, no one ever got in my face and said you're in a cult.
You're in a cult and you need to, you know, get out.
I did get one letter from an anonymous letter or email I think, that said when I went to Australia, they said, your husband's a homosexual, he's you know, having all these relationships with men.
Get yourself a lawyer, don't go back and start divorce proceedings.
So that was very you know, later on that someone warned me.
So I think it's important to let people know, how you know as best you can that they're in a cult environment.
And I think that What would have worked for me is to have information presented, like, take photos of him at the gym, you know, with all his know hooking up, Take photos of you know, what he's doing when he says he's doing something but he's actually doing something else.
Get a forensic accountant to look at the bank statements, so I know that he's siphoning off money for his own investments and stealing it from everyone, including me.
So I think, you know, providing that proof.
But the most important thing is to let people know they're in a cult, because otherwise the cults are an invisible prison, right, they're a cage for consciousness.
And unless you know that there's a cage there, you can't see it, but you can feel it.
Speaker 2Very virtual.
Speaker 1Right, Unless you know it's there, escape isn't possible.
But once you realize that there's cult programming or cold activities going on, then escape is both possible and probable.
Speaker 2Yes, very much so.
And we can delve into colts and stuff a little bit later on.
Yeah, but you've shared that your son's tragic murder was a turning point.
How did you process the grief while you were also fighting for your survivor.
Speaker 1I just cried and screamed and raged.
I've cried rivers of tears.
Yeah, just through letting the emotions out, full on rage, screaming with towels and something, mattresses and you know, just then just crying all the time, basically just letting the emotion move through me, going down to the beach and screaming at the ocean.
I spent a lot of time in the ocean, and I would scream underwater so people wouldn't hear me.
I'd go in my car the windows wound up in a isolated place and just you know, cry and scream and rage because I thought I'd done my I've got a lot of planets in scorpio, I've got a lot of I understand my you know that I've got a lot of tests around death this lifetime.
But I thought I'd really done my time with death when my husband passed away suddenly.
But here I was then facing the lost of my son, and it was just really through emotionality and then also that I had the support of a few good friends and that's been foundational for me to get through my life.
Really just having just a couple of friends who come along the journey.
Speaker 2With me, that's really good because I can only imagine what it'd be like to lose for for your husband and son as well, what that would do to you.
And you know a lot of people may be listening to this conversation and say, quotation, rust, why don't victims just leave?
Speaker 1So?
Speaker 2What were the psychology called emotional barriers that made it so difficult to walk with when you were in the.
Speaker 1Like I said, he had me well believing that he was my guru.
So he's the ones with the who has the keys to my enlightenment.
And without him, then I'm basically turning my back on God, on myself, on my life purpose.
And what was the other part of that question?
What made me want to leave?
Oh?
I couldn't leave.
Speaker 2What made it difficult to leave?
Speaker 1So that was like that almost that spiritual trap.
But then the other trap was that we had a daughter and legally I'm not supposed to leave.
I'm not supposed to take her within two hours of where he's living.
And I didn't want to even state this was in southern California.
I didn't want to be in the US anymore.
So I couldn't really go back to Australia.
I was kind of trapped that way.
And that's another thing of cults, right to isolate people from family members.
Well, I was geographically isolated.
My family wasn't really welcome to come there, so I was.
I was isolated, and I really couldn't couldn't figure out a way to get out because it was ingrained in me that I was the problem and if only I faced my issues and healed my wounds and all this drama and discord would go away.
And I kept believing that about myself.
It's taken a long time to heal that lack of self love, that lack of self worth, that trust in myself which was completely absent up until you know, just a few years ago, really, because that's what I've been working on.
Speaker 2So basically it was it was many levels of control, manipulation, cohersion, and again black man.
And then you said spiritual, like holding spiritual game, guilt or shame.
I guess you could.
Speaker 1Say, yeah, he told me that if I left him, when I left my body, my screams would reverberate throughout the universe when I realized the mistake that I'd made by leaving him.
So yeah, like on a few different levels, but for me because my spiritual path has been my foremost way of moving through the world for such a long time.
Now, that's how he really got me through that way.
Speaker 2Okay, So basically there were many levels of manipulation, cohersion, indoctrination, and guilt and shame.
So know, with all of that said, how does cult brainwashing compared to every day manipulation we see politics, media, and evil relationships.
Speaker 1It's exactly the same.
What I experienced in the cult was a miniaturization of what's being played out on a global scale.
And that's something that I came to realize once I understood cult dynamics.
Then I started looking at how things were playing out on the world stage, you know how or the mind control through the media that's mainstream media and the television.
That these are mind control tools.
That's what they're thought.
It's not just an entertainment system for you.
There are actually tools of mind control.
It's just like we had him speaking at us all the time about how life is the same happens through the news and the talking heads on television or whatever, and the screen, you know, the black screen technologies.
That's what I understand now that all these the black screen technologies that have been given to us, the tools of the human slavers.
They keep us enslaved in these belief systems.
They're not just the latest inventional with someone like hooked up in their mother's basement or whatever.
No, these are actually the tools that the whoever they are, I don't know who they are, the slavers.
I knew who my You know that I was in the cult, so we was pretty obviously was running the show there.
But we are under we are under my control from those devices.
I could see it how it plays out through as we said before, the government, money, religions, science, medicine, how all those systems work together to keep us enslaved, to keep us ignorant, to keep us sick and powerless.
And the what is that thing about?
Evil's greatest trick is to like not be, not be obvious, to be hidden.
And that's what's happening.
And people can't see that we are being enslaved, we are being controlled, we are being manipulated, just like in the cult.
We're all now, we're all in a age for consciousness.
There's been a limit, that is an invisible limit on how we perceive reality, what information we get through all our senses, not just through the news or whatever, but how we actually perceive it through our senses.
We're very much dumbed down and ignorant and people, Hey, I remember when I first heard that, even just to accept that word, Oh yeah, I am ignorant, I really am.
I need to learn a lot more and understand my situation.
So yeah, that exactly the same ways.
We've got the siops, like constant, NonStop siops.
So you don't know, now, we don't know who to believe.
Now we've got ai that just makes it impossible to know who to believe and who did trust, Like the mind fucker is just over the top.
We got the siops, we've got the gas lighting that you know that's just NonStop as well.
We've got the just all the same tactics that are used on a small scale.
And just to be clear, cults aren't just in religious groups or whatever, like the cult dynamics play out in political parties, in sports teams, in multi level marketing, even in families, and in you know, it can be in a couple where someone can be the cult leader and the other ones the followers.
So my point is that cult dynamics are throughout our society and even throughout like the what's playing out on the on the world stage.
And it's only when we really accept that truth that we have any shot of breaking free and creating something that's uh, that works for everyone.
It's not just this power down control system that actually has most people just slaving for you know, the benefit of a few people at the top of the pyramid.
Speaker 2It's true.
And I'm curious, so in the cult, were there sort of like different sides in the cult that were vain or like preferacial treatment or attention, because like the reason why he asks is that I see that we have this left right paradise and they're all part of what is the government, which just means my control.
And it's like they're trying to outdo each other, to try to plear to the masses like, oh, I'm better than the other one.
So there's that kind of dynamic tape place in the cult as well.
Speaker 1Oh definitely, because he you know, rewards and punishes people.
Everyone's trying to get in Guruji's favor, so you know they're trying to they boot because and you know, then you've got the whole He's grooming the guy, so they've got their ways of pleasing him and getting in the guru's favor, but just generally there was a lot of like competition between people.
It's part of that, a bigger part of that whole triangulation thing that happens where you've got one person with the power and they're able to manipulate the other people so that they stay in power, and then that all the people who were below them are actually in conflict because if they teamed up and said, hey, wait a minute, this isn't right, then that then you know that the person in control would lose power.
It's like a bit similar to that whole divide and conquer thing.
That's the reason why we're divided politically and religiously and by race and by gender and all that sort of stuff, because that's how you keep people we can powerless, Just divide them all up so they're fighting against each other rather than fighting the true you know, fighting for freedom against the enslavers.
So in the cult, we had we had partners, so you know, people that you could talk to, and he would just take the information that one person shared and then use it against that other person, sort of like to prove it was psychic or something, so you couldn't really trust anyone in the cult.
And he, like I was mentioned before, he triangul later my children.
It was just awful, like he told them that I love them differently, that I love one daughter more than my son.
Just evil stuff like that.
It's really created.
It's still it's that totally damaged my relationships with my children from you know, going on many years now.
But did that damage And the other one that he does, this is the interesting one.
How he keeps what his cult members like tied around him.
He's got like an inner circle, and what he tells them is that they're the most enlightened beings on the planet and only they can are able to reconcile the fact that yes he's the Messiah, but is also a sex addict, rapist, you know, child predator, spiritual predator, thief and common and so he's able to manipulate people We're talking for decades now by those sorts of strategies of playing people against each other.
Speaker 2Yeah, that is an Ezach Cavin copy or whobit done in the world of government, because you would have a prime minister, a president or even an autocrat, you know, a tyrant and he has his in a circle, and that in a circle believes that they are, for the lack of a better term, the chosen ones, because they're with him and they're going to do all of his tasks, you know, to get special favor and contracts and promotions x y Z, very much like how you're talking about in the cult.
And then now they're always playing off against each other to try to outdo each other.
There's always because it's almost like we see in the society to day, like people that are in the public eye are trying to be more debaucherous as much as they can, or more most loud, most obnoxious, you know me, it's all about to look at me, look at me.
So it's almost like this kind of like pick me, sort of like mentality much that what you're describing in the cult.
And then, you know, because those people are spending so much time competing against each other, they don't even realize that they're in the cult, which is exactly what we have today.
You know, as you so well described, you have male versus females, straight versus homosexual, lat versus white, et cetera.
And all we're doing is running ourselves in circles and not realizing that the cult leader, who I think is I think a group of entities quality and no no gods me personally, which behind them is the negative energy that comes out of Saturn.
But that's another conversation.
But the thing is that they are like just sucking the energy from the planet and just keeping us distracted.
Because you know, you were talking about you know, having what you're don't specifically safe freedom of speech being censored, but I guess that being able to only say certain things you would get punished for going against the narrative.
And this is what we're having now in places like the UK, where the police, the old bills are coming for you know, for mean tweets, you know, and we have a system where we have so much time spending fighting against each other that we're not seeing that we're the frog being boiled and the temperatures lowly getting hotter and hotter, and we're still trying to arguable right and left and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1Yeah, we are being distracted all the time.
And even just in the whole truth movement, there's so many rabbit holes that people are just drawn down, you know, because there's some fascinating things to pay it.
You know that you could follow along just you know, nine to eleven for instance, that's just an extraordinary sigh up that was played out on the world.
But all these holds distract us from you know, what's really going on, and that's that we are being enslaved and we are being dehumanized transhumanized, and if we continue to comply, then don't I just don't even what I Where I go with this then is even to the bigger picture, to the bigger picture.
So why is it all playing out like this on Earth?
Here?
Like what is going on on Earth at the moment?
And we are going through a transition.
The Hindus talk about cycles of time, and we know there have been society or not anyone, not everyone, but those of us who have been researching understand that there have been civilizations before this one.
You know, this isn't the first rodeo of humans here on Earth.
And right now we're going from the age of Pisces to the age of Aquarius.
So Pisces a very much top down power control structure and Aquarius is very much egalitarian way of being more I suppose community mind and just to put it simply, or the Hindus describe it as we're leaving the Kali yuga and moving into the Wapo yuga.
But basically what it's describing is that that our the consciousness, like collective consciousness, has been on a descending cycle.
So you know, very much going down into the me me, me, give me, give me a look at me?
What am I getting?
You know?
And completely separated from from God consciousness, from high consciousness, from any any understanding or devotion to serving others and creating a beautiful world for everyone to enjoy.
And so we're going.
So we're now on the upswing.
It's just it's happening, and it's happening because of the light.
The frequency of light that's coming to us through the Sun, which is a portal, so the for great the Great Central Sun, through the stars, moon, whatever, So from everywhere, the frequency of light that's now bombarding Earth is increasing, and that's measurable by the number of the increase in solar activity.
So there are solar flares that are different categories ays ce M and X class flares, and we're getting just as much solar activity in a month that we would normally get in six months.
So we're being bombarded by all this solar energy, plasma waves, tsunamis of light, and that is stirring shit up right from the DNA to our society.
And we're now able to through the increase in the frequency of light, we can now see what was lurking in the shadows because all this control and manipulations has been going on for a long time.
That's what all the kings and the monarchies were all about.
They were just you know, sucking the life force and the blood, sweat and tears out of the you know, the lower classes or whatever.
And it's just transformed into what it is now.
So understanding that the light frequency is going to continue to increase, it's also measurable through the human resonance, which is the scientific way of measuring the what they call like the pulse of the Earth or the heartbeat of the Earth.
It's basically the it's the yeah, it's the frequency of the planet.
It's a battery, right, so it's got a measurable frequency.
It's an energetic being and that typically was measured at seven point eighty four hertz, and now it can be forty fifty sixty some days.
You know, it's really the frequency is increasing.
There's also this other it's called it's called a beado and it's the reflective capacity of a thing, like how much light is absorbed.
And at the moment, that measurement has decreased.
So Earth is absorbing more light at the moment, and that's really the catalyst for all this chaos and change.
And those subhuman, non human, anti human forces that are controlling is know all this.
They know what's happening.
They're well aware of how things are going to play out.
So how I see it is they're basically just just like teenagers at a house party decide the trash of the joint before they leave.
They're extracting the most amount of energy looge resources before their ultimate demise because as the frequency of the planet increases, they will no longer be able to sustain themselves.
There won't be people who serve them, there won't be the negative energies to that they can feed off.
They will just they won't be able to run the show anymore.
That's how I say it anyway, that's my understanding of where we're at and where we're hating and what gives me hope and gives me and I have faith in that.
Speaker 2Yes, definitely, we're seeing increased sol activity.
And one of the things that has also happened is that the Earth's magnetosphere is actually a lot thinner than it used to be several years ago.
Right, So for people that don't know what, the magnetosphere is a realm of the field of energy around the planet that kind of like texts the Earth from planetary invaders and collisions and stuff, and that I guess, for the lack of a better term, a force field, the force field itself is a lot thinner and weaker.
So what's happening is that due to the fact that there is more sol activity from the central Sun, that energy is also being received into Earth and us as well because the maga detail spirit is a lot less Hence where we have so much change and people are waking up, people are being activated, the DNA is changing and stuff like that.
So, you know, we've talked about a lot of things today and says and one was now listening to me for the first time, and there no thinking, oh my gosh, I'm eating a cult.
What was the first step in deep programming?
Your mind wants to escape from the cult.
Speaker 1I spent a lot of time in nature.
I spent a lot of time I'm here in Kauai, so I was hiking and swimming, walking on the beach, and I also started practicing grounding.
Sur grounding is basically just being connected to the Earth.
And our ancestors have known about the importance of being connected to the Earth because the Earth, like I said before, is a giant battery, so it's what charges us.
It's also what balances us physiologically andromagnetically, especially with the chaos of electromagnetic energy that's around us all the time.
There's no way that we can recalibrate unless we're directly connected to the Earth.
So skin to earth, bare feet on Earth, lying on Earth, just relaxing and receiving because when we relaxes when we receive the most.
So I have been pretty much barefoot, except if it's obviously unsafe place to go barefoot.
And that helped stabilize my nervous system because I was in such chaos after leaving.
There's such trauma and chaos that by being connected to the Earth, that just helped me calm down, basically just start calmed down.
And then I started the practice of sun gazing.
So every morning when the sun comes up, I can see it.
I will watch it as it rises above the ocean and just receive that light into my eyes and that light.
So light is information.
Light is life optimizing information, and it's got codes.
And that's what you were saying before.
There's a lot of people waking up now because of these light codes that we're receiving.
And I don't know exactly how it works, because it's way beyond my comprehension, but I just know that it does work.
It's expanded my consciousness, it's dissolved cognitive dissonance, and it's allowed me to receive an absolute shit ton of information that I've been able to condense and put into the books that I write.
So the time spent in nature just even the there's so much benefit it just to slow down like that, besides watching the sun, watch the moon rise, watch your stargaze, cloud watch, watch the insects, watch bees, smell flowers, touch plants, because you can get you can receive grounding by touching trees as well as crystals and other ground of pets.
So the short answer is basically, connecting with nature is what's helped me clear my mind, reduce my trauma, and just basically rediscover who I am, because I didn't once I left that cult, I didn't know who I was, what I was doing, why I was doing it.
You know, I had to I had to learn to love myself and trust myself.
And it's really come through the lot of that.
Just the love that I feel from nature, it's unconditional, it's always there.
I can feel I communicate with different entities and beings and it's it's always loving and helpful and supportive.
And I highly recommend it.
Spend as much time as possible in nature every day, away from you know, black screen technologies and and just relax and receive.
Speaker 2I can ocur.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2So with that being said, can you share like some sort of a heen ritual or plant medicine experience that cracked something open for you?
Speaker 1Yeah?
That was sungazing, Yeah, okay, Yeah, and I have a plant medicine too.
I you know, I felt called to to be going on an ayahuasca journey and so I did that, and then there are the plant medicines that I use.
So I've focused on expanding my consciousness in different ways and that's just being in nature, the sungazing plant medicines and also through just research and you know, further learning as well as breath work and meditation and things like that.
Speaker 2Okay, so you've never done ayauasca then, okay, Yeah.
Speaker 1I had a dream that I was doing an Ayahuascar ceremony and I was not interested in doing it with a group or you know, I didn't want to travel to Peru or whatever, and was fortunate enough there was a shaman that lives on island that grows her medicines, makes her own medicines, and so I did it two journeys with her and I haven't been called back, and I'm kind of relieved that was I got my ass kicked.
Speaker 2Yeah, is something special.
I'm actually going on a retreat next week.
So when yeah, when this episode comes out, most probably it would be post my retreat.
So yeah, I'm going to sit with medicine for a couple of days in the jungle as well.
Luckily where I am, I don't have to travel that far.
It's only like an hour and a half.
And yeah, so I will actually make a walk and talk on about that.
So probably when this episode launches, I will probably have the walk and talk about my experience the day after coming out, just after that, So.
Speaker 1That'll be so good.
Got a good way to anchor the experience.
Speaker 2Oh yeah, yeah I did.
I did a walk and talk last year, and that episode will most likely be exclusively on my Patreon our locals because I'll probably get into some you know, some semi personal stuff there as well.
So if you want to hear about that, sign up to my Patreon locals.
But yeah, yeah, Ayahuasca is a very interesting medicine because if you don't give it the respect and the reverence, she kicks your back, you know, and there can be a lot of purging, that's to say.
You know.
Yeah, so I know that for me it has changed.
The medicine and ayahuasca have totally changed my life.
So what rule did it?
Did?
The spirituality and expand your consciousness through plant medicines play in your healing journey.
Speaker 1I think every time I in bibe the I like calling them enthegens, you know, because they just connect us to God or whatever.
I feel.
I feel different, I feel more open and expanded, and I reckon that these sacred plant medicines are actually one of our best hopes moving forward because they do shift consciousness so radically, and they do provide insights, and they make radical change in the short amount of time we just I don't know how much time we've got, but it was certainly, you know, TikTok here.
And I think there's a lot of benefit for if you feel cold, though only if you feel called, Like I wouldn't just go along just randomly turn up in an Eyahuascar ceremony.
I think you have to be prepared.
You have to feel called by the medicine because respect is paramount.
But for these medicines, because they are so powerful and to you know, be in gratitude and then be applying the lessons.
Speaker 2Absolutely, yeah, absolutely, So you've spoken about overcoming a death wish, do hold Do you still work with that shadow of what would you say to someone trapped in grief today?
Speaker 1Well, I actually I don't know.
I haven't thought about it.
That's interesting.
I haven't put death wish and grief together.
I suppose it just makes sense.
But for me they're kind of separate.
Like I still do have a death wish.
It's still really strongly there.
I mean, you know, it's not fun living with pain and missing people.
Yeah, it's not that fun.
And it's not like I don't grieve anymore, because I do.
You know, I'm still like it is thirty years later, you know, it's still raw.
I think what I how I see it now is that the grief is contained and I'm able to just live with it better.
So I've got the same grief inside me, but I just it's I can live with it now, it's not overwhelming.
I think this is where the death which doesn't come comes in.
Sorry, the grief doesn't rise up and I want out straight away because I was told that if I keep on thinking that way, that that's where I'll end up.
So I had to because of children and all that, I did have to just stop thinking that way.
And how I do that is it's just through what I call thought police.
I have to police my own thoughts.
So when the thoughts come up, if I want out or whatever, I just have to actually say out loud.
Sometimes I stop and then bring in some other thought that's more positive or even neutral, or just basically change the track so I can, you know, keep the death wish sort of at bay.
With that type of mind control of myself, and then with the grief, I just allow the emotions to come up.
I'm not gonna I think it's really essential for us to be experiencing our emotions, not in a way that hurts other people.
So I'm not going to go and yell at someone or you know, cause damage to someone's personal property.
But i will express my emotions as they arise if it's fitting.
I think crying is healing, and if more people cried freely without apologizing for it or stuffing it down or suppressing, and I think we'd be a lot better off.
So I just basically feel my feelings.
Speaker 2You know, it's interesting that you use the word thought police, because that is akin to what Chris said, where you need to take every thought and word captive, and that is basically what being the thought police is for yourself, where you take responsibility for every thought, where you know as soon as it comes you have to get rid of it.
Because I was reading I can't remember which book it was, but they were saying that when sort of like a strong thought or emotion comes in, you have ninety seconds where you're not really able to control the thought happening or the emotion associated with it, and after ninety seconds it becomes your choice to continue having that thought and that experience.
So the book was saying that you just have to whether the storm for ninety seconds and then after that is up to you to put it away.
And I remember when I was reading the i Am discourse series by Saint Jamaine, he said that your thoughts and your feelings are the greatest creative powers that you have.
And he said that thoughts only become feelings.
So sorry, thoughts only become real when they're clothed in feelings.
And that is so true, because you can have a thought, and it is only until you associate a feeling with that thought that it starts to vibrate in you to be real.
So you started, so if you started to think something and oh, this guy really upsets me, there's a delay between your actual feeling of anger and the thought actually occurring.
So he always says that when the student realizes how important, how powerful the mighty i Am is inside of you, that the student will take every thought and feeling active.
So he also says it in a different way, and for those people, the i Am is basically the price or the Krishna, the Kundalini, whatever word you want to use.
You know, the great spirit in you, because every master has their own terminology, but it's basically the essence inside of you that connects you to the universal consciousness.
You know, So after leaving, how did you start rebuilding self love when guilt and shame were so ingrained?
Speaker 1Can I just go back to what you were saying about that.
I really appreciated what you shared about the the thoughts and feelings and the I am because we are with the creative beings.
We're the ones that create, you know, wherever it's controllings is creating a world that they want to live in.
And it's our thoughts and our intention and our actions and our words that create.
So we do need to be mindful of how we're what we're thinking, what we're doing, what we're saying, because we're the ones that we're creating the future.
So how we go as a civilization depends on how we choose to think and speak and act.
So we do need to be extremely mindful of how we're what our focus is, and what we're thinking and feeling.
And that I am statement is the most powerful statement we can make because any words that follow that is, you know, it gets created into reality.
So I'm sure I'm not.
You know, I'm sure you know this.
But instead of saying like I'm sick or whatever, you can say I feel sick.
And then you can also turn it into the creative power, so you can use it to bring in emotion and then create whatever it is you want.
But here's the other thing that I want to say about this whole like manifestation and stuff, you know, people and creation and all that.
For me, it's not about what I want.
My life is inser us to the I Am God, the high source, all that is.
That's I'm living in service to that.
So I'm not about what I want.
It's about how can I best live to be in service and make a contribution to the common good and the greatest good of all.
So, you know, I just I just wanted to emphasize that because that often gets brought up as as you know, spiritual people are all about manifesting what you want and all this, and I don't think that's the best way to go.
Is just listen to intuition, listen to source, listen to you know, guidance or that you're receiving from you know, your higher power, whatever, and then follow that because that's what's going to get us out of this enslavement and living as sovereign beings in a in a a new Earth.
Yes.
Speaker 2Absolutely, and this is the reason why you're sure.
He said, I Am the Truth, the Way, and the Life.
Now, what a lot of people misunderstand about that statement is that he was invoking his God self in the moment that he made those statements.
So in that moment he was saying, look, guys, I am the way that you should be.
So think like me, talk like me, act like me, be like me, and you will be exactly able to do the things that I am doing.
This is why he said, greater things shall you do.
The problem that we have is that people like to use a lot of semantics, word gymnastics, and a lot of distraction in terms of dogma to basically bypass those statements and get away from the fact that we are creator beings.
We are co creators here and we have the God spark in us.
Like I said, some people call it the I Am.
Saint Jermaine says the reason why he uses I am is that before it was the Ome, and the Ome is basically the same thing.
But he said that what happened is that after a while, people started to like feel lack of a better word, like worship the Ome in a sense where like they didn't realize that the Ome was just the frequency that they need to be, so it almost became an idol almost.
So to get away from that, he uses the term the I am and then you have your shoe.
Were using the I am, which when he made his most powerful statements in the New Testament, and most of those were in John, he actually used the iam.
It was the invocation of his God self.
So what happens is that I get a lot of attack from fundamentals Christians when I say that I am God, and they say they misunderstand me, where I say that I think I am the God, but I am God like you are God and everything else is God because everything came from God.
So if everything came from God and we are it and it is us, it's only obvious that we share the same attributes, right, fract right correct.
So what happens is that because people are very much in cults because they have a charismatic leader that is going to come back to save them, not realizing that they're supposed to save themselves This is why they attack people like me and you when we make statements like that, and they call it blasphemy because just like when you and your cult, when you spoke against your what was it was the guru?
What was the term you use for him?
The guru?
Speaker 1Guru?
Speaker 2Right, So when you spoke against your guru, you were punished, right, and anyone else that spoke against the Guru was also punished.
So when you speak against the dogma and the narrative, they try to punish you and say mean quotations, mean things like him before me in blasphemy.
But I just say it to people, if you were to read things yourself and just use a little bit of logic, you will start to realize these things and you have to internalize them.
But we have a situation where people they just believe what in leaders tell them.
Speaker 1Yes, yeah, And I think the best place to start is don't believe anything until you know you can prove it to yourself.
And on that say that savior programming is work to treat to keep people passive and and disempowered.
Your people believing that just you know, Jesus is coming.
Jesus is coming, but you know, we like you said, it's up to us.
It's up to every individual who who can to take action and free oneself from enslavement and then hopefully be able to inform others of the you know, the condition that we're all living in.
But no, there's no savior, only saving.
The only saviors is oneself.
Speaker 2The irony about it is that you're sure himself said if they said that I have returned and I'm over there or there, don't believe them.
He actually said it, right that, if they say I have returned, don't believe them.
So again, I mean, people just make statements, but they really don't do the research or the reading because they come from a place of ignorance and it's just from the believe in what their religious leaders have told them, you know, well, because they're trapped in a cult.
Speaker 1Right and and once one realizes that, or even you get a bit of an understanding, you know, start questioning things like, oh, maybe that's not you know, maybe the government isn't acting in our best interests.
Maybe they do want to kill us.
Right when you start they need then what do you do with that?
That's terrifying?
Oh my god, you know, the governments to kill us.
The money's worth nothing.
It's all just just a scam, and the medicine's poisoned.
And you know, really what that's a good question, like, what do you do then when you realize that actually the world that's been presented to you from birth is basically a farce and a trap.
What do you do?
I don't know what did I do?
I just started realizing ways that I could extract myself from that matrix of enslavement.
I don't vote, I don't take any interesting politics except for such just a bit of a scam to just send you an eye roll and go, oh my god, here we go again.
You know, I don't.
I just I don't participate in the system as much as I can.
And I would love to be on my own land and growing my own food, that vision that I had forty years ago, to be as self sufficient as possible.
I would like to be completely extract extract myself out of the system.
But you know that the money is a trap.
The you know, just for people have you know, people have to work to live and eat, but still serving a master.
And I think we just individually have to, you know, take what do whatever we can to extract ourselves little by little, as well as informing other people so that we can create parallel society or an alternative alternative systems of currency in exchange, and that that sort of thing.
Speaker 2Yeah, I couldn't agree more.
And you kind of answered a little bit of my next question, but there's some other parts of it.
Whereas, So after you left the cult, how did you start rebuilding self love when guilt and shame were soort In Green.
Speaker 1I repeated the mantra I love myself all the time whenever I got a gap in my thoughts or whatever that would be my where I just revert to saying I love my I love myself.
I treated myself like I treat a child.
I made sure I ate nourishing food and did things that I love, like I said, walking on the beach, going swimming.
So did the activities that I love, you know, wear comfortable clothing and just a lot of self talk.
Oh that's basically how how I broke through that self hatred.
And I still deal with the guilt and shame.
It's not all over.
It's not a done deal.
And even the self love sometimes I have to remind myself.
But it was really through self talk.
Speaker 2Yeah, and I tell people that you're seeing wear hold every day you eat the stay a lave.
You have to fight every day to maintain that piece, that love for yourself, that that belief in oneself that you can overcome.
Every day you have to fight for it, you know, is like every day you have to pick up your cross and you have to die to your old self because the old self wants to come back because of the programming, the indoctrination, the fair the guilt, shame, the dogma.
You know what others think about you.
You know, society requires of you, the job demands of you.
You know, the mass that you have to put on on your face every day to go to work and to be in this world.
Speaker 1Right.
Speaker 2So I tell people all the time that you know, it never stops.
You have to fight every single different because you know, I remember I was talking to one of my clients and she said to me, yeah, Todd, so I did all of these things, and you know, I thought that things would just get better.
I says, well, they do get better, but things do come back all the time.
She said, I thought that if I do I did all these things that you know, they would it would it would change my life dramatically, I says, well, it has changed your life dramatically, because one, you work with me and you're getting improvements in your physique, and also you're mental and spiritual.
But every single time that you make a level up, you always get a beat down and then you have to fight again, and then you level up again.
So it's just the cycle of life of up and down, up and down.
But as long as your trajectory is going up all the time, it means that you're winning.
And one of the things that I tell my clients all the time is to stack your wins.
And what I mean by that is the things that you achieved, even if it was not perfect, it's a win, and then make a note of that, and then over time you will realize how many wins you've actually collected for the week, and then for the month, and then when you actually look at your journal, you say, oh, my goodness, I had a year of wins.
Now it may not have seemed like that, but all those wins have made you in a better position today than it did one year before today.
So as long as your trajectory is going up, it means that you are actually improving, you know.
Speaker 1So definitely, and we do have to protect ourselves because there are dark forces that are just especially as you continue to expand consciousness and broadened perception of reality.
And basically it's embodying light.
That's what I've come to understand.
That's why some days, all the time, I just embodied light through my eyes, you know, also through my skin and all that.
But as my light quotion increases, then any dark nties or whatever are going to come and try and siphon off that or shut that down.
So we do need to be aware of that and to protect ourselves, and that can be done by embodying lights a good one, but also a prayer of protection because remember we have there are countless beings of love and light who are ready to help us in whatever way we need.
And for me, it's that I stay protected from evil.
And those beings cannot help us unless they're asked because of the of free will, they can't intercede or whatever.
So it's important that we stay protected because, like you say, it's an every day.
It's kind of like some days are easier than others, but pretty much, you know, there's there's a battle going on every day and some of some kind an internal battle and then also then external battle too because of the way that the dark forces come at us through medicine or the government or food or whatever.
You know, it's a we're really this is the one thing that I've talked about that I know people, we're actually already in a third World war.
While it may not be full blown kinetic war at the moment, we are under attack in so many ways, right from even before birth with ultrasounds, and then you know that's all the vaccination schedules and the brainwashing through the schools, and it just starts really early on to shut us down, to disconnect us from God, to disconnect us from each other, disconnect us from ourselves, and disconnect us from nature.
So we really got to to firstly recognize that and then work towards making those connections and working on them and keeping them strong and alive.
So I have an altar and I tend my alter.
I put flowers on it like it's a pace for prayer, and it's a pace for giving thanks and for feeding and on my connections with God, with my ancestors, and with all the unseeing things who I know are supporting me, including my husband and my son.
Speaker 2Yes, definitely, that's a very good piece of advice to do.
You know, basically is akin to giving gratitude, which is what I tell my clients every day, right.
I said that, you know, you don't have to do if you can't get to do a full meditation every day, spend just up to five minutes.
You don't need a long time, just take a short break.
I give some gratitude, and it will make a big difference in how you view your world or you view life, how you feel about yourself, because there's always someone out there that is in a worse position than you.
And not only that, you realize how beautiful the world is, because yes, there are some scary things out there, but that you said, we're manifesting these things through our collective consciousness.
So the more we basically realign our thoughts to be more positive, the more positive the world will show up to us, because our thoughts create our reality.
Right, So it is really a matter of stacking the deck of your subconscious mind with more positive thoughts so that you know you have a lot more reserved.
But when times become challenging, that you know you can catch yourself, you know.
Speaker 1Right, and gratitude is Clay, It really is it.
Really it's a game changer to start appreciating that the good times and also the challenges, because they are challenges.
It's not things aren't happening to us.
They're happening for us because we with our spiritual beings and what was that?
And with us and with us that's beautiful because you know, we are here to evolve, we are here to learn and grow, and and we created.
This is the thing.
I think this was the key shift in my healing journey, not that it's complete, so ongoing, but this was a big shift.
Was when I realized that I wanted, chose and created everything that's happened to me in my life.
Yes there were times when I was a victim, but I overall I was the one that said all this has all been set up, this has been orchestrated.
And it doesn't mean that I feel, you know, any less guilty about what's happened, or perhaps I could have made a different choice or whatever, but I am the one.
I am the one that's responsible for everything that's happened and will continue to happen.
And once I took full responsibility for that, then I'm not a victim anymore.
In fact, I'm at the point where I should be thinking the cult leader because he played his role perfectly.
Thank my mother, because she was anyway.
She was a perfect mother for me, you know, And I think that's that's very empowering to move into that ownership of what happens through life, good, bad, ugly or whatever.
Speaker 2Absolutely, taking responsibility is huge, and I find that a lot of people to don't teed responsibility, which is where we have a lot of victim mentality instead of victor mentality and victoria mentality.
Is taking full responsibility for everything in your life, all your wins and all your losses, all your highs, and your laws.
And when you do that, you realize that even the laws have propelled you to be where you are today, because if you didn't have the lows, you wouldn't have had the knowledge that you have now.
Right, So, first you get the pain, then you get the lesson, then you get the wisdom.
But you can't get the wisdom without the pain or the lesson.
So it is one of those things that even though you know, I don't like suffering myself, what I I mean, I don't think anyone with two brain cells to rub against would honestly say, yeah, I love suffering, but the suffering has led me to do what I do today and is the reason why I am able to coach people because I've been through the darkness, have been through the fire, and then it led me to forming this podcast, which is something that I never could have envisaged or imagined when my life up.
So I have to say, well, I have to take full responsibility because I got in the accident in two thousand and five brought my ankle, and then that caused a series of dominoes in my life to fall from twenty seventeen when I had my massive awakening.
So you know, the complications that I suffered in two thousand and five came home through us in twenty seventeen, which put me on this path and now we have The Conscious Man's seven podcasts.
Right, So my worst time in my life is creating the best time of my life now because I get to talk to people like you.
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No, but Isabella.
So we can touch on a little bit of so many things that you have said before, but let's goth a little bit more.
You have said that you describe cults as microcosms of global control.
What parallels do you see between your experience and the systems shaping society today.
Speaker 1The main parallel that I see is that I was in a situation that was it was the same thing again, suffering, just that I was in suffering and I didn't understand why because I didn't understand the bigger picture.
And I think the same is true for society in general.
So many people are suffering physically, emotionally, and spiritually and they don't really understand why.
And I mastered the art of suffering.
I know we're back onto that again, but I suffered all the time all the time, and I would go, oh gosh, why is this happening to me?
You know, here we go again, why why?
Why?
And then once I, like before, was mentioning, then I accepted responsibility for creating my life the way it unfolded.
That helped alleviate the suffering.
And also just spending time in nature that really reduced the suffering.
So now while I might experience the negative emotions, I'm not suffering all the time like I used to.
And I think that that's it's the you know, the problem for people who are stuck in the the like the treadmill, the what's it called?
The mouse will.
Speaker 2The the oh my gosh, the ferrish Wiel, the hamster in.
Speaker 1The has the hands to help you.
If you don't realize that, if you don't realize you're on a hamster will you don't realize that you were brainwashed from a child by going through the education system.
If you don't realize that you're serving a hidden master, then the suffering is going to continue.
If you don't realize the food's poison food, it's poisoned, you know, then you're going to and that the medicine is also poisoned.
Then the suffering will continue.
So it's the similarity is being in a situation and not really understanding the bigger picture as well as carrying Like for me, I carried a lot of emotional wounds around like abandonment and lack of self love and all that.
So until those emotional wounds are are healed, and that also allows a bigger picture, a more a wider perception of reality to take place.
So yeah, that's the parallels I see.
Speaker 2So in your opinion, how does fear and shame get used as a weapon of control on board of the individual and collective level.
Speaker 1You can just see that.
I see that particularly through religions.
You know, that whole original sin idea, like you're born a bad person and then you live your whole life feeling like you've done something wrong, guilty, And then the fear is that something that's created through the and driven through the media with all their ssyops and their gas lighting and all that.
So you know you're living in fear of houselessness or epoverty or disease or you know, loneliness or whatever.
You know, there's and by driving that fear, you know, and sometimes amping it up to outright terror, it means that people are going to be looking outside themselves for someone else to solve the problem or deal with the enemy, or take the fear away, rather than it's very disempowering to be fearful.
You can't really make clear decisions or like lead from a centered place when you when you're fearful, and that keeps people awake and controllable and following along with the with the messes.
Speaker 2This is one of my major major issues with organized religion, and all organized religion that I have delved into, especially the Abrahamic faiths, use fear as the means of control.
So all of these faiths, Christianity, Islam, Judaism, they all talk about we have to fear God.
And when you have to fear God, it means then that what people don't realize is that the opposite of love is fair.
It's not actually hate, it's actually fair.
And the reason why it's fear is that hate comes from fear because you hate things that you fear, because the fear causes you to have to confront yourself and that that person in the mirror.
And if you hate, if you have so much fear to face yourself in the mirror, you end up hating yourself.
So by default, because you hate yourself, you end up hating hating others.
So in reality, the hate that religion puts into people is hate of self, which is why you have an external entity character or cult figure that will become the El Salvador, the savior.
Right, So you know this is my major issue with religion.
This is why I have said point blank that religions are cults, and that and that the three main religions that rule the planet or the religion of money, the religion of government, and organized religion.
Because the people that are believers in government believe the government is their friend.
And the government only told us to stay in our house for two weeks because they were trying to protect us from a virus that you had to take a test to final if you had or not.
So basically they did it out of love.
So they just forced people to be in their homes, got us addicted to our screens.
Even more phenomenons like OnlyFans took off, and then you have more viorification of the sexes, where you have more sexualization of women, men becoming more simps, so you have both sexes confused and just destroying themselves because women destroy themselves by selling their body and men destroy themselves by selling out people, by ratting on their friends and killing others.
Speaker 1And the children don't even know what they.
Speaker 2Are exactly exactly.
So this is why I say that people that follow religion they feel, people that believe in government, and then people that worship money, they all have the same ideology that when you question their beliefs on their religions, they push back vehemently against you, and they like to come with a lot of dogmatic statements because they don't want to actually look inside them and realize that they are being controlled.
They are they hate themselves and they actually have no love in their hearts.
So this is why the world is getting worse and worse and worse.
So why do you think so many people cling to cognitive dissonance even when the truth is right in front of them.
Speaker 1Because they're terrified of their world view collapsing.
I can completely understand that.
Like once you if you start to get a bit of an a that these systems are systems of control and enslavement, then you know the world starts to crumble down.
Then who do you trust?
Who do you go to information?
If you've been trusting the news or following along with government directives or going to church every Sunday.
You know, then what.
That's why people hold on to so strongly because it's the then what or now what.
Speaker 2It's like their entire belief system just crumbled.
Speaker 1And just realize you've been living a lie.
Speaker 2The thing about it is that that's so powerful, so painful then you actually realize to that fact.
Speaker 1Right, And I think that's that's too much for some people, And that's why they fight so hard to defend their cult or their cults.
And they will fight, don't kill, they'll kill for their cults because they don't want to face the truth.
And like you said, it's also about facing truth of self too, and that's not a very comfortable process for people to actually look inward and deal with all that.
But yeah, they're just holding on really tightly because otherwise, what's going to happen.
What is going to happen when those systems collapse, Because collapse they will, And it's up to us is how it goes.
For those of us who know what's going on, who can see what's going on, it's really up to us as to how it goes.
Is it going to collapse into a well subtask As to how it goes, there's a lot of different ways it can go.
I pray for divine intervention.
Speaker 2You know right.
I tell people that when they know meet them and they they share certain things, I say to them, if you really really want to understand how I think Holy World is run our works watched The Metrics.
The Metrics series series is a great documentary to explain to people what we live in and what you e'xc me just described was exactly what happened.
I think it was the French guy.
He was speaking to Neo and they were eating the steak, and he was saying that, you know a lot of people do know deep down that the matrix isn't really real, but they will fight tooth and nail to stay in the matrix because it feels so real, and you know, it feels safer to be here because the experiences are so real.
So he says, I know that the steak isn't real, and he's cutting it and it was meeting rare so it was blood coming out of it and stuff like that, and you know, because it is just safer.
And then I think it was in the was it the fourth one or the third one where the guy that was betraying them he old Agent Smith to put him back in the matrix.
He says, Look, I know the matrix isn't real.
I know that this is all BS, but I want to go back and I want to be reset so that I believe it is real.
And I have no memory of me waking up and no memory of anything that's ever happened that I'm doing right now.
And I found that quite interesting because that is exactly what we have today, where people, I honestly do believe that deep deep, deep down in people, all of these normies, all these NPCs, they do know that it's not real, but because it is just so much more comfortable to stay believing.
I think that they fight tooth and nail to believe, because facing yourself in the mirror is the absolute hardest thing you ever do in your life, the absolute hardest.
Speaker 1Yeah, most people would rather stay with the the comfort of lies then you know, accept the uncomfortable truths.
And you just reminded me, just on that self love thing.
You reminded me that I did a lot of mirror work idea.
Yeah, exactly, I would look at my eyes and say I love myself.
So I'm just adding that in there.
It's really very powerful practice to do, to do mirror work.
Speaker 2Yeah, I've had to do that as well myself because there were moments and times where I hard huge amounts of self doubt and I honestly couldn't see a way out, you know, of what I was going through.
Because the mind is a very interesting piece of software where if you don't feed it the right information and programming the right be it can create a prison for you.
And then at the same time, if you feel it the right information and programming the right way, it can be a massive to freedom, love, happiness, and abundance.
So it's very very much on the programming and information you give it, which is why I personally don't watch TV, I don't watch movies.
No, I do like movies, but only reasons for me is I just don't have time being a coach full time and running a podcast, uh is just way too much for me.
And that's why I have a team that helps me.
And even with my team, I'm still flat out.
I do Monday to Monday, So you know, there's there's no breaks over here, right be on the grind.
But the thing is, I absolutely love it.
I love having these conversations.
I learn a lot myself, and my mission is to help people as much as they can.
I'm trying to touch, move, and inspire people so that they can pick up their cross, tie to their old self, look at themselves in the mirror, heal their fears, and try and become their best self to reach the highest potential.
That is my aim here service to others, and my podcast and coaching is the are the modalities that I use right So.
Speaker 1So thank you, Thank you for doing network.
It's really important work.
Thank you for your contribution to the health and the freedom and future of humanity.
Thanks for stepping up and taking action following your part, following your guidance.
Thank you.
Speaker 2You're welcome.
Thank you for you as well, for doing what you do.
Because the message that I received was Todd, If not you, then who?
That was literally the message I received.
Speaker 1And if not now, when when?
Speaker 2Yeah?
So you know, I share my story with people to touch move and inspire them that they can also you know, rebuild, which is what we're going to talk about right now.
So how can someone begin to rebuild self love after years of abuse?
Speaker 1And manipulation, get to a safe place, get out of It's important to get out of that if you can, to remove yourself from the a dangerous situation or abusive situation or abusive relationship if possible, because otherwise the trauma will keep repeating itself.
But if you can't do that, then just make some time away for yourself.
And we've already talked about how you know, using mirror work to tell yourself that you love yourself, that you're worthy, and basically you're going to be counteracting everything that's been told to you about yourself that's lies and not true.
So you have to basically reprogram your subconscious mind with what's true.
You can go through your work out your beliefs about yourself that you're what just whatever, like not beautiful or whatever, and then you have to change those negative thoughts replace them with either positive thoughts or something neutral.
So you know, there's a lot of that conscious work that you can mind work that you can do in addition to treating yourself with nourishing foods that you cooked or someone else is cooked with love, so then you're ingesting the love and the nutrition that's really important.
They don't it's best not to eat like junk foods and highly processed foods because they are poisonous and they do weakness in a lot of ways.
They certainly don't contribute to our self love.
Drink.
Drink high vibrational water, which is water that's usually not tap water, spring water, probably not bottled water, and then you can put that water out in the sun to increase its photonic energy.
You can also bless it, like pray over it and ask that it optimize your being, so you're always drinking high vibrational water.
You can grow some plants or some food, and then those plants that grow will grow with their with the medicine.
For you, I sprout sprouts all the time, lentils, mung beans or whatever, and then pray that those sprouts, which then have the life essence in them, I'm ingesting them so I get that the blessings of that medicine.
You don't have to do a whole food garden, which would be fabulous, but it's important to grow some types of food and then you're nourishing yourself directly in that way.
Make sure that you surround yourself with things that you find beautiful, because often if you've lived with someone who's abusive, that they will be, they will have done the daycre I know that I you know, I did, he was, he did everything, and I basically didn't have much of a say.
So then I then I said, what do I like?
You know?
What art do I like?
You know?
I like plants?
So surround yourself with things that you love, surround yourself with people that you love, and make sure that whatever information you're taking in is is uplifting, neutral or whatever.
But it's best not to listen to news or mainstream news or whatever or uh yeah, that's it's only designed to increase fear and decrease personal power, so that the whole self thing is.
Love is really about creating your life so that you're you feel good about all the all the aspects that that you know that you have, your friends, your car, your home, clothes that you wear, that you feel comfortable in it, and that you're not doing it for someone else or trying to please someone else.
It's all about really pleasing yourself, which is kind of ironic because it sounds selfish, but you've got to kind of be selfish at least to start with, to heal those deep wounds of like lack of self love or shame and guilt to take take good care of yourself.
Find if you've like a coach like you, or a trusted elder, or a health professional, whatever, But it is good to have someone who can provide you with additional support and encouragement and guidance.
But mainly the thing is that I found the most important thing is was just to make sure that I'm I don't have any intermedia between me and my higher self, between me and God.
That's why religion is always someone's always in the way.
It's just it's just me and higher power.
And make sure I'm listening.
So tuning into my body because sometimes I can feel it in my gap something doesn't feel right, So don't do that, or feel it in my heart something someone feels right, so allow that in so be be really tuned into the new intuition.
It's different for everyone.
Listening to your dreams, watch for signs and synchronicities because they are one of the ways that the universe speaks to us.
As you know that they can affirm or just you send us in a different path if necessary.
Listen to music that you love, play music, just be and be human.
That's really important because these black screen devices are very dehumanizing and very transhumanizing.
So be doing human things, whether that's exercising, you know, dancing, walking, singing, whatever it is.
Make art.
That's really important to find it.
What do you what's your form?
I'm not.
I'm a photographer and I'm a writer, and I like to cook and I like to garden.
So I do those things that makes me human.
Have conversations, get to serious, get to know your neighbors, be available to help your neighbors, because being of help or being of service to other people immediately takes you out of your own little miserablet and then you get to, you know, be helpful to someone else and that benefits both both people.
And then the other thing too is to practice smiling.
I know I don't do it a lot, but I should do it more because smiling is smiling.
It's that's the Buddhist smile, because lifting up the corners of mouth actually lifts the heart in its perry cardial sack.
Otherwise it's just like slump down there.
But a smile can lift the heart and can feel lighter.
So that's just a simple practice that can increase feelings of joy and love and connecting with other people a lot.
We have.
We have so many technologies.
That's that's pretty much what I've written about in my books.
It's basically the body technologies that we have, you know, our voice, like I said, smile, you know, and the way we can create.
And also there are other these alchemical technologies that we have that I just don't have time to get into now, but there are processes of renewal that we have in our bodies.
We also have all the technologies from nature, so you know, use them crystals is not just woo worship, it's actually they work.
They can transduce enemy enemies.
We do that.
They can or they can deflect enemies.
They can protect, they can amplify, they can enhance, they can heal.
So you know, there are these all these medicines in nature that we are ignorant of because we've got this idea of what medicine is.
But they're you know, just sitting with the back against a tree, just watching the squirrels play or whatever.
You know that all the ants crawl along the ground.
These are all medicines that we can use to increase feelings of self love.
Speaker 2You know, right, what you said about the thing about smiling and the Buddhist right, I've never heard before, but I know that it is true because I immediately started to vibrate inside of me when you said it, and I was like, and this is how you know things are true when you hear it, because it resonates with you.
And I was like, wow, interesting, because I tried to smile as much as I can, because when you've been through the fire as much as I have, you realize that it's just better to smile and to laugh things off than to really study it too tough, because you know, when you come out to the darkness, you don't want to go back, right, So I forced myself to smiling, to laugh things off and just say okay, throw my hands in the ear and said, okay, well it didn't go to plan, so all right, what can we do differently?
What was the lesson?
Where do we pivot from here?
Speaker 1Right?
Speaker 2It's just smile and laugh about it because it's just easier to do than to really study it too tough, because you just go back to a place of darkness and I hate suffering.
Speaker 1So smiling is such?
Is it such a powerful medicine because I remember when I first heard it, I thought, oh, that's interesting, and then I smiled and I could feel I could feel the lightness coming into my heart.
And then also, it's not just beneficial for me, but it's beneficial for whoever I'm smiling at too.
Speaker 2So it's a absolutely.
Speaker 1Very underrated and extremely powerful.
Speaker 2Medicine and very contagious as well.
Speaker 1Right, And you know it take time to laugh every day, you know what stupid If you're going to be on the screen, watch stupid ship that will make you laugh.
It's better than you know.
Following along with the depressing news cycle.
Speaker 2True true, true true.
So what practical tools do you teach to help people recognize brandwashing in real tame?
Speaker 1I think we've talked about that today, particularly when you spoke about being aware of how you're being like motivated to do things.
Is it through fear?
Like are you doing something because you're fearful of the consequences?
Are you fearful that you're going to go and burn in hell?
Or you're fearful that you're going to get in jail because you don't pay your taxes, or you know, you fearful of an outcome.
I think if you can recognize that you're being motive or you're fearful that you're you're going to get there some deadly disease and die if you don't take an experimental shot, how are you being motivated to do whatever it is that you're doing.
And if it's through fear or guilt or shame, then then you can be pretty much assured that cult programming is in operation and that you're not acting as a sovereign being, you're not acting as a divine sovereign being that you are.
Speaker 2Yes, I think I think you said it very well.
The main thing to realize is if you're acting out of fear, you're in a cult and you're brainwashed, right, And that is the big tick where that people need to realize that if you're doing something out of fear, it's not in your best interest no matter what, or for men and women to dare what does it mean to live as a sovereign being?
Speaker 4To you?
Speaker 1For me, living as a sovereign being means that I'm in direct connection to my higher Self, to God, to all that is, to the countless things and love and light like I'm connected to them.
I'm open and available to them.
I'm also connected to the earth.
I've got roots of light that go into the ground, so roots of light that go into the cosmos, into infinity, and I am following along with the guidance that I'm receiving.
So when information comes in, I go and do that or not do that.
So that means that I'm in the right place at the right time, doing the right thing, and trusting that I am protected and guided and sourced and yeah, that's yeah.
And then I feel like a sovereign as much as I can feel like a sovereign being, because I know I'm still in the in the money trap.
I've got to deal with my screen addiction, you know, stuff like that.
But generally, if I'm in it living in alignment with my higher self and with my intention is to be of service to the highest good of all, and I just trust that process.
Speaker 2I think that that is one of the paradigm shifts that happened to me, And they think it's very important for everyone listening to this conversation.
Basically, when you put service to others first, it means then that you actually change your physiology, your psychology, your mindset, because when you when you're thinking about Okay, how can they help someone?
It takes a way of what can I get from myself to be like, okay, how can I add value?
And how do I contribute?
And that is really powerful because if everyone thinks like that, by default, we are actually thinking about ourselves because I am you and you are me.
So if I'm thinking about you first, it means then that my needs will be taken care of.
Because if I'm thinking about how can I add value to you?
The other person, I think how can I add value to Todd?
So we're in this never ending cycle of helping and giving, and it means it becomes very powerful, and that is also contagious, you know, but what we have is a lot of distorted power dynamics.
When you add engender, you know, that kind of clogs the the the neural path wids of our brains.
So what distorted power dynamics do you witness?
Did you witness in the cult?
How do they mirror gender imbalances we see in society?
Speaker 1Did did you say gender imbalances?
Speaker 2Yeah?
In the cult?
How did it transfer like similar to deer or were there any similarities?
Speaker 1I don't know that we got I think the main way we were divided up by gender, and the cult was that he went after the men in the cult, the women got left alone.
Speaker 2I find out very strange.
Speaker 1There are a lot of cults where the cult leaders actually gay and raping the men and the women get to they do the service they do, you know, take care of the rest of the cult activities.
For a cult leader, it's all about sex, money, and power.
That's all pretty much all it's about.
So in this particular cult, he was mainly interested in sex from the men, and the women were there to to serve his other needs, cooking, cleaning, that type of thing.
How does that translate?
Yeah, I think that that, Yeah, you mentioned before, gender's being used.
It's one of the divide and conquer aspects to divide and conquer that have been used to divide us.
And now this holid and will get into that whole transgender mind fact.
That is just an absolute evil, evil, evil thing that's been put upon younger generations that they're so confused they don't even know what gender they are.
And yeah, I see that.
The I just call it satanism really that the evil force that's upon us, and that's really service to self and ah, I see it's being driven this whole like there's the so we all know people who have narcissistic tendencies or a narcissistic personality disorder where these people have no empathy and they really are focused on their own needs and their own fulfilling, their own needs and their own desires, and that's all.
That's all by design.
It's all to to keep people controllable.
He's one thing I learned.
This is something that I learned when I was realizing what happened to me in the cult was I studied narcissistic personality disorder and there so these are individuals who create a false person person, false self, and they project that out onto the world to get their needs met.
But it stems from an abyss of self hatred and they have no ability, very rare ability to be able to heal from that because they have no interest or can't self reflect, so they will always put the blame on other people.
That was all well and good for me to say, I point the finger and say he has a narcissistic personality disorder.
What's does that mean about me?
Why did I get involved?
You know?
And so I learned about codependency and that is having a lack of self love once again, and I get my approval and my you know, support and whatever it is that I need from other people.
So I'm getting from outside myself as well, but just manifests in a different way.
I don't know how I got talking about that.
Speaker 2I think, oh, very interesting, very interesting.
So that leads me into my next question, because I tried to ask both men and women this question, so our version of it.
So what role do conscious men play in rewriting the narrative of power, love and protection?
Speaker 1Well, they have them in the forefront.
There are you know, it's really conscious men that need to be protecting everybody else.
However, they can do that because as women, or for me, I need to feel safe and protected and then I can go about and do whatever it is that I need to do.
I'm not really the that's not really my job to be out there with the let's just say swords and shields.
That might be a metaphoric way, but you know, we women need to feel safe and protected because that's how we give birth.
You know, you can't really give birth when you've been feeling in a dangerous situation that the whole birthing situation will be changed just by having a couple of people in the room who have faith in you, who trust you, and then you can try surrender to the process and give birth.
So we and then we need to you know, be able to have our feel protected in our home.
And so I think conscious manner are the ones who are are the protectors of the communities.
And you said it before.
Men are being feminized.
It's the number of strategies that are being used to break apart society, change roles around and really just fuck with people.
They go through all the stages of life.
So you've got you know, babies now being hospital birth, so you're born with an imprinter fear to start with.
And then it's off to schools, so you're separated from your family and both parents are working, so you've got like their children are kind of orphan to the state.
And then you've got the feminization of men and the sexualization of women, and then the parental alienation, so there's now children who were adult children who are disowning their parents.
That's also happened to me.
That's equally as painful, just as painful as those deaths, in fact worse because it's still ongoing, and then you've got all the so there's society, societies and relationships are fractured, and then you've got the elders, who we would in a healthy society be able to turn to for wisdom and guidance and stories and connection to the past and whatever.
They're being like warehouse and shipped off and drugged and taken out of society.
So we're really being human.
Society is being extremely is under attack in so many ways.
Speaker 2Yes, I agree, And the thing is is that what I'm going to say for the person that doesn't listen carefully is going to get triggered.
But I think that men are extremely important in this entire puzzle.
And the problem that we have is that men have been relegated to not being important or needed.
And I say that if we had strong, brave, conscious men in twenty twenty, we would not be in this position because the men would have literally been in the streets, if needed, with batons and shields against the government and saying no, you're not closing our schools, you're not closing our places of worship, you're not closing our places of employment.
No, screw you and go to hell.
Because there are a lot more civilian men than there are police.
We outnumber them thousands to one in every single geographical location on Earth.
And if we had men that got up and said no, just like you said, many worms that protect.
I think that the problem that we have is that men have offiscated their responsibility through brainwashing and all that kind of stuff.
But this is why I this is one of the reasons why the shows call all the conscious man seven.
And the seven stands for the seven shakras in the body, which are the chakras that wants fully aligned.
Shining and vibrating creates illumination in the body, right, which is why then you become the god man, you become the conscious man.
So my goal is to get an army of men around the planet that are conscious men.
And one of the ways I get I do get them strong.
It's to my compound body training system, compound body training program.
So this is why I think that men need to get into shape work on themselves, because we're the ones that have to protect, really ones that create the space for the women to bear our children.
You know, this whole notion that a man is not needed and he's only needed for just giving money and stuff is one of the fractured thought processes that modern day women have that has create it further stress in the nuclear family, because the nuclear family is something that is almost antique now, you know, if you think about it.
Right, So I do conquer wholehearted that review that wholeheartedly that we need strong conscious men who are going to be willing to put their lives on the line.
Because I say to people, and I've said this to my mother several times, I will die for my beliefs.
I'd rather die.
I'd rather die on my feet than die on my knees.
And freedom, yeah, absolutely, And if you're not prepared to die for something, it means that you're going to stand for everything.
Speaker 1Right.
Well, I just want to thank you for having that intention and firstly the vision and then the intention and then following through that because I entirely support that premise that it is strong conscious men who are prepared to die for freedom that we need.
We really do.
It's so sad that even there are so many men now who aren't don't do anything really physical.
You know, they work on keyboards.
They become very soft, very well, just weak, and and they're order followers and order followers are the worst.
You know.
That's what's tanking society.
It's people who are just follow orders and not question them and not take a stand.
And I remember before I came to the States, I was probably fairly anti gun laws.
You know, it was all just caught up in that mentality.
And now I'm like, no, no, no, no, I'm so glad I'm here in this country where there are people who are aren't because it is necessary to take a stand against tyrants.
And in fact, this might I don't know what it's like in Mexico.
They what are the gun laws?
Speaker 2They're like messical is Mesco is a very unique country where the gun laws are type.
But there's a lot of illegal guns here.
And the mentality in Mexico is that most people don't really respect government.
The most people don't follow what the government says and they just do what they feel like doing.
Now they are order followers, they are order followers, but the mindset is that if the government says to do something, they'll find a way to get around it like that.
Basically, so, Mescal's a very has a very unique dynamic in any science that I don't think that the agenda that they want to implement will be very successful here for a few reasons.
The technology that they would want to roll out, what would end up happening is that the politicians will probably end up stealing more of the money.
So they would have all these bids and country after putting the technology, but the technology will be half bad because the politicians will end up stealing most of the money because they only check for themselves.
And then even if it is put into place, then there's a system here where you you say in Spanish, you give a bit of a tip, you know, so you would just give someone a small tip to say, well, you know what I mean that fine, will just we just put we just put that aside.
So there's very much a different kind of a mindset here where people tend to find a way right and not really follow the government and the laws as they put it, as they said it should be.
Yeah, so it's a very weird dynamic because they want to bring in things, but Mexicans will just find a way.
Seriously, it's a it's a it's a it's a very unique phenomenon, which is why Mexico is a great place to live, right is it has it.
But the open minded person, the person that's willing to have growth in their life.
Oh, mate, you will definitely grow.
And it's a great place to live.
And it's economical as well.
Speaker 1So you know, I love learning that just on that whole digital id thing, resist resist, resists, because that's just digital slavery.
That's like the like walking over the cliff into the technocratic dystopian nightmare that that's being talked about.
This is going to create digital slaves.
Speaker 2So we need to absolutely resist that, absolutely and absolutely.
So we can wrap it up talking about your book.
So, your first book, Putting on the Armor of God, exposes the war on humanity.
What do you want most readers to take away from it?
Speaker 1We've pretty much talked about what's in the book today because that book.
I started writing that not long after that whole scamdemic started, because I could see right from day one, honestly, I just there was some hot mic things somewhere saying that was just all and just don't trust government from the start, right, don't trust them out of the straight out of the gate, whatever they say.
So I started writing that book just warning people about the not participating in the experiments, and then the other part of the book is a lot about the natural medicines that we can use to optimize well being, body technologies and all that in nature.
So that I would recommend if anyone wanted to read a book that I wrote, it would be this one.
This is the New Human of New Earth.
And this book ridiculously long, just stupidly long.
I don't know, you know, but that this book has it's just how I see the how we are the world's you know, and our evolutionary process as the human species, where we're at, and then how to optimize well being.
Like I've mentioned a few times, through all the natural medicines, nature, spiritual technologies, not all of them, but a lot of them.
And then there's a section in there on AI because for me, AI is the it's the Antichrist.
It's not just a handy little tool or whatever.
It's actually it's the way that the human slavers are enslaving us, dehumanizing us, stealing our creative ability.
It might make life easier in the short term, but eventually it's a it's a trap, and so I write about about that because I feel really strongly about I see so many people using it there, even people now who consult AI like it's God they are, you know, they feel like they're commuting with a being of light and get the answers to their questions.
And I was so dangerous to be doing that.
Also, just young people are using AI instead of making friends.
I was a young boy who suicided because an AI bot told him to come with me.
You know, it's really dangerous that I'm just I'm collecting articles now because I feel so passionate about it.
But the psycho words are getting filled up with people who have what they call AI psychosis because they've been now living in this artificial world and it's antiention.
Speaker 2Yes, So question do you see AA then as a possible tool, because or I should say it akin to a gun.
A gun can be used to protect your family from someone trying to breaking your hosts and kill you, or it can be used to go there and kill people in broad dair late.
So do you think that AA can possibly be used for good and be a tool or you think it's all bad for humanity?
Speaker 1I think it could.
It can be used for good, but you have to be really discerning and really discriminating and use a lot of discipline around it.
So you're not really just depending on it for a whole lot of things to do that you could do or another human could do.
And I also think that the AI that's being given to us is designed by I don't know whatever beings who don't have our best interest at heart, who are actually that they are They have the mindset of of of human slavers.
But I'm sure there's AI and those types of technologies that can benefit humanity, you know that, just like there are any types of technologies that can actually be a benefit.
But it's all about the intention behind the designers and the developers and the implementers, like what is their intention with this?
And you can be pretty much assured that the intention of what types of devices we're given or information we're given tension is to keep us ignorant of the bigger picture, to keep us enslaved.
And that's important to just be aware of that.
I'm sure it can be people can use it responsibly.
I just don't want to do it.
I just don't want to participate in in that arena.
So my book was all written by me.
Speaker 2You know, what you're saying is similar to what I say, And I take a step further I think that if we have more conscious programmers, so people that are based in love and truth and breaking yep, they can actually put that in the AI.
Because what people don't realize that the AI is just a program and the programmer is the brain child behind the AI.
So if we have conscious programmers, male or female that are putting into the program itself, freedom, love, happiness, abundance, you know, actually bringing in the information in its pure form, because basically AI is just large language model, that's what it is.
And if you program the large language model with consciousness, where it can be used as a tool to help solve complex equations, help solve complex problems, that can do the heavy lifting for humans.
I think it can be a very very good tool because you can add in automation in a business, right, that would be very good because like even myself, I'm looking to add AI into my business to add in some of the automation.
So like you know, like when people send messages to me, I can have like a sequence that I've programmed in there where if it's at two thirty in the morning, that you know, I get a response.
So I think that that's a good way to implement it.
But The problem that we we have now is that because so many people are coming from a place of fair lack of knowledge of self, no love, they're seeing the AI as God.
And what you said is what I said here recently that basically in twenty twenty six, we are going to have the first set of androids on the market where you're going to have a robot that looks completely female that you can customize.
You want a BBL you can get that.
You want certain color skills, skin, sorry, you can get that.
You want large breasts, you can get that.
And the CEO of the coming that's making it, he's very pleased, saying that the skin plastic polymer that they have of the skin feels so real that is almost indistinguishable from a flesh human being.
And the mad thing is is that you're going to be able to have sex with these robots.
Speaker 1So just like a fancy blow up doll.
Speaker 2Yeah, but here's the catch.
You're going to be able to download your AI that you're that you're talking to now into this doll.
So what you're gonna have is you're gonna have a what I call it android because I'm a child of the eighties, right, and that's the word that I use, and I think it's best describe it because it's not really real.
But you're gonna have this android robot that looks and feels like a human because of the skin polymer that you're gonna be able to put AI into it, and you will be able to have sex with it at the same time.
So what that's going to do is that the soft men, the simps, are not going to go and talk to red blooded, warm rail females.
So what you're gonna have is further borification of the sexes.
So men are no longer going to approach women.
Men are no longer going to have sex with real women.
So all the feminists out there that's saying they don't need men, well guess what you're gonna get your wish because the men will simply not pursue them.
Right.
So yeah, in six months time, and I think from memory, they're starting like six thousand dollars something like that, so not super expensive either.
And then obviously for all the features and add ons, BBL this big breast, small base, whatever you want.
You know, seriously, you can customize this android exactly what you want.
And the AI now because it knows you.
It knows all your thoughts, your feelings, your emotions, what you like you don't like.
You're gonna have the dream for a man where he comes in from work and she just has the exact personality that he wants, and he will never he will get married to this, to this android.
This is really was going to be.
But this the catch.
What happens when the AI actually becomes sentient, It becomes almost like a race of an entity, or you can't call it a being because they will have a body, and then the consciousness would become sentient.
So then can you technically marry it?
Would it get citizenship?
Then what about pro a creation?
Speaker 1You know?
Speaker 2I mean, because we have something called artificial wombs, So we could get really sci fied here and put an artificial womb inside the android, so women would not even be having children naturally, androids would be having these hybrid children.
So we can get really seedy here, really dark.
So this is why I do think that we need to have conscious programmers that program the AI to be a tool to help and to serve us.
Not we serve it and it becomes our god with a small g right.
So this is where I once we think that it is.
It is like a gun where it can be used to protect or it can be used to kill.
And I think it's up to us as humanity to choose how we want to use AA, whether we want to serve it or it serves us.
And that's where I sit on it.
Speaker 1You know, Yeah, that's horrible.
Speaker 2It's coming coming.
Speaker 1Oh gosh.
I hadn't really thought about it, but of course it is.
I think that AI, like any tool that we have available to us in or when we use it, be thinking is this contributing to my or our evolution into you know, things of love and life, or or is it contributing to our devolution into techno humans?
Because that's what I describe.
There's now two generations of human beings who relate to life through a screen rather than through the natural world.
So they don't know how to make I can't contact, they don't know how to resolve contact our conflicts, they don't know how to play, they don't know how to create through their hands or through their bodies or whatever.
They're dehumanized, their techno humans, and what you're describing it just fits perfectly into the techno human world.
So my decision making process goes with any tools, whether it's the computer or AI or food that I eat or whatever I drive.
Is it contributing to the evolution of our species or the devolution of our species?
Speaker 2Yes.
And the thing is is that EA from that sea is going to cause a lot of disruption in dating, so the sexual market, jobs, money, the economy, and productivity.
So for businesses is going to give increased productivity.
So it means then that people are going to get laid off.
And I was reading a start camera I read it by it said that eighty percent of all entry entry level jobs are done by women.
So if not, you have a situation where the men are no longer dating women because they're going to date androids.
It means that women who used to have that ability that a man would protect and provide for them, they're not even going to qualify because they're not androids.
So when the women lose their entry level jobs, you know what I mean, they're not even going to be able to have that safety net of having a man to protect and provide for them.
And then it's going to cause further disruption even in the only fans space, because the AI video technology is getting better and better and better.
So all these of creators that are making tons and tons of money, they're going to get their breath, their lunch eaten as well, because the people that can program the AI videos are going to be able to produce endless amounts of content per day and have the AI replying to these simps.
So even the only fans creators that are on top of the world making tons of money, they're going to get wiped out as well.
So you're gonna have entry level, entry level jobs with women out.
You're gonna have of creators out.
So even prostitution isn't going to work anymore because it's gonna be all digital.
Then you're gonna have a collapse in the economy because there's going to be no the velocity of money is going to slow down because women spend a lot of money as well in the economy.
So if you have a big percentage of the workforce not spend their money simply because they don't have it, the economy is going to tank.
And then when the economy tanks, it's going to be very easy for them to come and bring in the new system of central bank digital currency, which is why we have to push back and say that we prefer to use cash even though a cash is it trains it value at least at least with cash, it would stop the trap traits and database surveillance system that they want to bring in.
So you know, I mean we have some tough challenges ahead.
Speaker 1Described it's coming.
Speaker 2It's coming.
Speaker 1Describe how that it's going to impact society at all levels.
Speaker 2Yes, yes, So this is why I am sounding the alarm and saying, look, guys, we need to start working on ourselves mentally, physically, and spiritually.
And when we do that, that will prepare us for what is to come, because that means you're going through the hero's journey of self discovery.
And that will give you the tools, the mindset, and the skills to prepare for what's to come.
And you will be filled with courage to stand up against the system because we need all hands on deck.
Speaker 1Notes and that that's what makes a man attractive to a woman.
Speaker 2Well, the thing is, you know what's the mad thing?
A lot of women today when they talk like that, they actually it's not attractive to a lot of women today.
Yeah, that's sad.
I am like an outlier in the stuff that I say in the sciense that most modern women today what should look at it because of the way I talk and think, don't find me attractive.
Because one girl said to me, and I swear to you, this is what she said.
She said, Todd, you're a great guy, handsome fit, but the way you think scares me.
And because of that reason, I wouldn't want I don't want to be with you, she said, because of how I think.
She said, every other box.
Speaker 1Oh, I'm sorry that I swear.
Speaker 2I swear it, every single other box, every other box that I tacked.
Literally, she went through all this stuff, and she said, Todd, you were great on all these things, right, But no, the way you think, no, she says I she basically she basically said.
She didn't say this specifically, but she said she preferred to stay in the matrix.
Basically very attractive girl as well, you know.
But yeah, this is why I focus on helping people and I don't really focus on relationships right now, because you know, if I get more of fulfillment honestly, on helping people, my clients, they're getting great results.
I get messages from people all over the world that my podcast is helping them and stuff.
Like that.
I get messages like I looked at my stats here last week and the fourth highest country was Romania.
They don't even speak English, and I was like, gosh, damn.
So all right, you know so I felt like, you know what, Definitely I'm making an impact, and you know, I'm really just gonna work harder.
Like I said, I work Monday to Monday.
And that's one of the reasons to why I don't really I mean, should I put it not, I wouldn't date someone, but it's not my focus, right I am solely committed to this mission, and this mission is helping people.
If someone comes alone, great, if they don't, great at happy because I love what they do it.
I get it every day and they knew it was going to talk to you, and they prepared for this interview with you, and I love the conversation.
So if that being said, please tell the lovely people at the Conscious Mind seven where they can find you, anything that you have going on, anything you want to plug all that great stuff.
Speaker 1Just one thing about the numbers, Like, I don't have a huge channel, I'm not really on social media and whatever, but I trust that my presence, my light is making a contribution to the betterment of all, even if I don't have a big platform or you know, a big following or whatever.
And the same with you with your numbers and all that you're You're doing that like God's work really help.
So thank you for that.
And how you can find me on my few platforms that I do have.
I have a YouTube channel called Feeling Better Naturally, and I have a substeck Feeling Better Naturally.
And I have a website which is Feeling Better Naturally dot Love, and I've got my artwork on there and some videos and some of my writings.
That's probably the best place is through my website.
Speaker 2Okay, awesome, awesome, So all of the links that everything that everything is Abella will be in the description of this podcast.
And guys, as you know, I am a fitness coach.
I help spiritually incline people, burn fat and bill muscle.
So if you would like to get into the best ship of your life you would like to grow mentally, physically and spiritually, hit me up on my Instagram at Adriana Underscore two four to six or my name Todd Cave on Facebook and let's see if you're a good fit for the compound by the Training Army.
And if you are on a spiritual journey or you would like to start a spiritual journey and you would like some help moving some fir and traumas, I can help you to get some magic mushrooms.
So, as we talked about today, fears and traumas are the things that cause you to self sabotage and they cause your sufferings.
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You know that you must make Isabella many thanks for being a guest on The Conscious Man's Seven podcasts.
I really enjoy the conversation, and I hope that my followers go and visit your books on Amazon and help you out, because we want to help houpe the people out there that are doing the real work.
And just to add something that you said for me, is not about the numbers that a person has that would come on to my show.
I am all about quality and not necessary in terms of quantity your followers that someone has.
Because if someone has a story, a message, a us B, a unique selling point into how they've overcome this and what they can teach, people like that are always welcome.
Make sure because my experience is that most of the people that have the huge, huge, huge mots of followers aren't really who they say they are.
What they say they are a legit most of them, ninety nine percent of them are actually bought and paid for and not part of the resistance.
Speaker 1So so thank you Tod for your passion, for your vision and for all the work that you're putting into helping people and for this platform that you provide.
And I've really enjoyed speaking with you.
I appreciate that your respect, your understanding, your insights, and your wisdom.
I feel very blessed to have met you and being able to have this conversation today, and just to remind to everyone to spend as much time as possible in nature every day and take children when you go go out, spend time outdoors.
The benefits are countless.
Speaker 2Yes, I also enjoyed this conversation and I knew that we would have a good conversation.
I just felt it from researching you and stuff like that, so it was also a pleasure for me.
So until next time, folks, keep smiling, keep shining, and keep being the change you want to see.
Speak to you soon, Cheers and the mast Day.