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Speaker 2This is a podcast call twenty five wists stuck at Funbom and they aware whizz so yet it's too bad?
But what did you expect?
It's a podcast call twenty five.
Speaker 4BIS twenty line.
Speaker 1Everybody, Welcome to the show.
We've been in Vegas all weekend.
Uh what are you laughing at?
Because the first story I'm gonna tell is kind of awkward.
It's funny, Well think it's funny.
Speaker 2I just see you're giggling over there looking at your phone.
Speaker 4Why.
Speaker 2I made a bunch of notes and this is my first note.
Here's the whistle, Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1Slow slow whistle and whistle I this is this is kind of weird.
Speaker 2What is it?
This is kind of weird and embarrassing.
Speaker 1I got a text while I was in Vegas and I looked down.
It was a text from Kevin, who's on our show kick Off Kevin and kick Off Kevin, uh said, likewise man got fomo watching the videos and picks.
Speaker 2And I was like, uh huh, but you had never you hadn't text him anything before that.
I text the wrong Kevin.
Speaker 5I knew it.
Speaker 2Did you mean to text him?
Speaker 1I meant to text it Kevin who used to work with us in the company, and yeah, yeah, yeah.
I would always see him.
We'd always meet and do some work in Vegas, just overall.
And so I text him.
I was like, hey, we're iHeart.
It's weird without you here.
I actually said, wish you're here in Vegas.
Not the same without you.
But I get a text from kick Off Kevin and he goes likewise man, and I was like.
Speaker 2Oh, maybe I don't tell him.
I didn't mean to text him.
Speaker 6Man, Kevin, did you think he was honestly texting you?
Speaker 7Dude?
Speaker 5I looked at my wife and I'm like, I think Bobby might be drunk for the first time.
Speaker 2Ever right now, So I meant to text the other same name, Kevin, who has been to Vegas many times the company.
Kevin has been with us one time to Vegas.
Speaker 1Text him that I said, wish you're here in Vegas.
Not the same without you, and he responded likewise, got fomo watching the videos and pics and I'm like, why did kick off?
Kevin text me that?
And then I'm like, oh God, such the wrong person.
Speaker 6At any moment, though, bones did you think about just letting it be?
So Kevin thinks that we really didn't miss him.
I did let it be until right now.
I never responded to him responding I just let it be.
Speaker 2And Kevin, you thought like he was legit, Wow we missing it?
What did you think?
Kevin?
Speaker 5No, I legit like I saw it.
I was like, huh, Like can I thought the same thing.
I was like, I've been to Vegas.
I think once?
Maybe Okay, Like cool.
Speaker 2Hey it's not the same without you, though, dude.
Speaker 5Yeah, I'm like, dang, I feel good, like they really missed me right now?
Speaker 1Well, we did miss you, we did, but.
Speaker 2That was an accident and that is funny.
Speaker 5He's the wrong Kevin, like Bobby's in his fields right now in Vigan at the craftable.
Speaker 2I'm just missing Kickoff so much.
Speaker 1Yeah, crafts table was interesting because there was one.
I made a bunch of money in the crafts table.
I went three times.
Two of the times I made money.
One of the times I broke even.
I I mean like thirty five bucks or something.
So I didn't count that because I just broke even.
Yeah, but it wasn't lost money for me, though thirty five would be like, honey, we're winning great.
I didn't make another video on it because it was I went, and I did make a video about meeting this couple.
Speaker 6And it's rare that you get a good oh a crafts table where everyone's vibing.
Speaker 1Very rare, and not everybody was winning, but there was enough winning to where we were there for a bit.
It's just so rare to get that table where you end up talking to the person to the left, to the right, to the people across yes, and you're like, oh, I'm having a good time.
Like I don't want to lose, obviously, but I kind of don't want to lose.
Speaker 2Because I don't want to have to leave the table.
Speaker 1I got into one of those rare and it wasn't even a big winman, a big winner time for me.
Speaker 2Just everyone was vibing.
Speaker 1Yep, God, that is a good feeling.
It's so rare.
It was a great feeling.
It's like there was a couple of women and they were older, but they had never played craps and they were looking at it, and I was like, I can show you, like a couple of things.
Don't look at the whole table because you'll get overwhelmed, intimidated and overwhelmed by looking at the table.
So they were standing beside me, and I was like, these are the only two things.
Speaker 2You got to worry about it first.
Speaker 1And so they were like, oh, this game is actually pretty easy when you break it down.
So they hopped in this other couple that was over.
They hopped in and everybody was just like hanging out and like, nobody knew me from the show, so I didn't have this weird thing like I have to like be a certain type of person.
Speaker 2Is great.
We had that rare everybody.
Speaker 1We're never gonna see each other again, but we're having a good time right now.
Speaker 2Vibe.
It's fun.
That is good.
Speaker 6I was at a crafts table for a second, and man, I was just sitting next to the or standing next to the most annoying guy in the casino, I mean every dude.
He was with a buddy too, and he was explaining to the buddy how it works, except he was all wrong.
And then he would be like, oh, man, we hit this.
Oh my gosh, we're gonna get our money.
Oh no, no, no, we're not gonna okay, no, no, no, that's that's a good that's a good thing.
Speaker 2We got.
We got two two five's on that.
Okay good.
Uh.
And then he would be like.
Speaker 6Man, come on, shooter, shooter, you got this shoot and like he was trying way too hard and I'm drunk.
Probably he was there for Motley Crue, he said.
He kept telling his buddy, dude, how cool was that Motley Crew concert?
Speaker 2So the opposite of your table rock and roll?
Speaker 8Man?
Speaker 6Man, you know when my go to those at the table to get everyone laughing, Man, I need this, I need this from my kids' school, and everyone else goes like you okay, man, yeah, laughing or crying, I'm laughing one of the two.
They just put out the permanence, Kevin, did you see the sec permanence.
They announce no, okay, so I can read you this annual opponents per Chris low.
Speaker 2And they weren't supposed to announce them.
Speaker 1I didn't think until tomorrow, but I guess Chris Lowe is saying he already knows.
Okay, they have for Arkansas Missouri and you'd be like, oh great, but they pound us also really good, like most of the time in the past five years.
They are a top twenty five team.
Texas and LSU.
Those are our three permanents.
Speaker 2You know.
Speaker 1I don't love that draw because we're the worst of the four.
You'd love to have a team that you think you could every year beat up on.
But our three permanents will be Missouri, Texas, and LSU.
I thought it would be Texas, and I thought it would be Missouri.
The LSU thing is surprising to me because we play and we have a series with A and M every year, and I thought it would be A and M.
Speaker 2Don't you have a what's the L s U won the Boot Battle for the Boot.
Speaker 1Yeah, which is why they kept it because those two rivalry games are L s U and Missouri.
But I thought they they'd possibly cut that they didn't, But who cares.
Speaker 2We suck, We're done.
I hate life.
Kevin did text me, Yeah I did.
Speaker 5I did text the right Eddie.
Speaker 2You did text the right Eddie.
Speaker 6And I think and I think he was honestly, you know, just like saying, hey, man, just look after Bobby, make sure he's okay today.
Speaker 2No, I didn't see Eddie the whole trip.
And that's where it's working.
True.
My wife was there.
Speaker 1It was a terrible freaking game.
The only positive about the game is I think that will that will be the reason we have coaching changes we could.
Speaker 2We're done.
It's it's over.
Speaker 1And I like Sam Pittman as a person a lot, but I haven't been shy over the past couple of years, even when it was unpopular to say, guys, we're not moving in a positive direction here, like we've already peaked, we' hit the ceiling.
Speaker 6What's over the season or just the Razorbacks as they are as a team now.
Speaker 1Well, I think what's over is this coaching staff is not going to be the coaching staff next year.
So depending on how they handle it eternally, they right now they could keep Pittman on for another week, notre Dame.
Speaker 2Then we have a bye week after that.
Speaker 1Most of the time when they do something like this, it happens into a bye week because you have an extra week kind of reorganize.
But it's not like you're going to hire a coach.
You just promote somebody.
And if this happened last year, to probably been our defensive coordinator, Travis Williams.
But this year, because defense sucks, it's probably gonna be Bobby Petrino if they do it.
But he has a clause in his contract and I'm not going to make this the full Arkansas podcast, but he has a clause in his contract that if he has a winning record, his buyouts higher of his term in his last deal, and he has a couple game winning record right now, he's an overall losing record at Arkansas, but so if he loses a few more games, they can buy him out for cheaper, so they could let him finish to the end of the year.
But either way they're going to have to do something because the fans are getting pretty testy, meaning they have to announce hey, this is last year or firing him, or hey we ain't firing him, and like something has to be said.
I think Petrino probably is the fill in coach.
Well interim by Petrino back.
We won eleven games with him before he left ten games the year before that.
Speaker 4Like we were.
Speaker 1It's weird.
It sucks.
I just got a message from somebody.
I was going to Notre Dame to the game, and because we're playing Arkansas and Notre Dame next weekend in Arkansas, and I got a message going, hey, after this weekend, checking to see if you're still coming.
Speaker 2Not a good day on the hill.
Speaker 6They texted you that, yeah, and then you respond not yet because it happened like five minutes ago, TVD.
What are you thinking, Yeah, yeah, what what's on your mind right now about going?
I mean, if you were to answer right now, you'd say, no, I'm not going.
If they're aren't other factors.
I'm leaning toward no.
With there are other factors in play.
It is our nephews third birthday, oh, personal factors not.
Speaker 1And if Caitlin's like, no, I think we should still go because we should go to our nephew's birthday, then I will go.
If she's like, I don't care, I'm not going for a couple of reasons.
One, it sucks and two, it's gonna be weird for me to get up in a suite with people in the administration when I have been outwardly going, hey, I don't.
Speaker 2Think this is it anymore.
We got to make some changes and they're directly affected by this.
You were doing that on Twitter.
On Twitter, I wrote and deleted probably fifteen tweets.
Dude, why do you go there?
I took them down.
I didn't delete them.
Speaker 1I wrote them and then just XD out and didn't put them up at least fifteen.
Speaker 2Is it because you were alone or would you do that anyway?
Speaker 4Like?
Speaker 1Well, I would be alone watching the game regardless of what I know.
I know, so it wouldn't matter of the situation.
If I'm here, am I house or in a hotel room in Las Vegas, I would have been doing the exact same thing, because I watch games alone.
Speaker 2You just reach for the phone and starting tapping away.
Speaker 1I don't even reach it stays in my hand on Twitter into the right to push the little pen and pad.
Speaker 2It sucks.
I hate life.
So but I did take a bunch of notes.
Would you hold on real?
Speaker 6Would you go to the Notre Dame game just because it's Notre Dame in Arkansas, and it's kind of a rare.
Speaker 2Okay, if I do go, that is why I will go, because I mean that's pretty cool.
Speaker 1I also don't think it's out of the round possibility that we win the game.
Speaker 2I'd be crazy, be crazy, dude.
Speaker 6Your defense like they couldn't make a tackle, Like I don't understand that.
That almost looks like the Cowboys defense.
Cowboys defense, Arkansas defense, same defense.
Which week, Well, I just saw most of the game this week.
Also, let's look at it.
We were gonna win.
All we had to do is take a knee and we win the game because we're going to kick a thirty yard field goal.
Speaker 1But it's the second game in a row where we fumbled.
The last drive to win the game, we fumbled, so I'm not even Again, that wasn't the point of this, but I do think that will be what is going to create a positive change for the program.
Speaker 2And I just get pissed off.
Speaker 1Because I donate so much money.
I think I would be hurt and it would suck as a fan if I didn't.
I just get angrier the more money I put in, because I'm putting it in not to lose.
I'm putting it in to help have tools to win.
So whatever, man stupid anyway.
You know who also like a tool, Arch Manning, and I like Arch Manning.
Speaker 6Yeah, against my my Sam Houston State, Like there's no need to flex on Sam Hulme.
Speaker 1Mon, dude, there's no need to flex on anybody from sam Houston State for any reason.
Speaker 2And Texas posted the picture and they were like Aura, and I'm like, dude's standing over an.
Speaker 6Eighth grader is well, easy easy?
Their college football players my bad and they are d one.
But yeah, dude, come on, you're killing Sam Houston State.
First off, what you should and they did.
You can only beat the people in front of you, right, yep.
But there's Mike you saw it.
Speaker 1Yeahs a little okay, just making sure you thought that chill out.
And after it he was like, my mom was not happy about that.
Speaker 2Arch was.
I like, Arch, I didn't like that.
So he was doing it all the way up to the bench, like doing the lah they do.
Speaker 4Chill out.
Speaker 1Maybe they told him like have a little swagger, but now it's like too muchel it in a little bit.
Well, you can only have so much.
If that was against Florida coming up.
That's different, Sam Houston State, you're having to pay them to come play you.
You shouldn't flex over anybody you're giving money to to.
Speaker 2Come play you.
So I saw that.
Speaker 1I'm just gonna roll through my notes because I made a bunch of them.
Next up, the fan who caught Mike Trout's four hundredth home run ball.
Really fun and funny story.
So Mike Trout hits his four hundredth homer with the Angels catches it.
Obviously that ball is worth some money.
He could have kept the ball and actually made a significant amount of.
Speaker 2Money with it, but he gave it over.
Speaker 1And when you do something like that, they make sure to reward you.
And they gave him like sign bats, all kinds of stuff.
Yeah, cool stuff.
But what he wanted to do was play catch with Mike Trout after the game.
Speaker 2Hey, that's fair.
Speaker 1So he got all the stuff and then Mike Trott agreed, I'll play catch with you after the game.
Speaker 2That's awesome, And there's a video of them playing catch.
Speaker 1My only problem with this video is that Mike Trout's not wearing a glove.
Speaker 2He's playing baar hand catch.
No, that sucks.
Because you can't really like let him have it.
Speaker 6And you know what's funny, that's like what I do with my with my son, you know, like because I know he's not going to hurt my hand.
Speaker 2That's what Mike Trott to do with this dude.
Speaker 1So they're out in front of the dugout after the game is all the way over, there's nobody in the stands and and they're playing catch.
He's got a glove on and Mike Trout, and Mike Trout's bare handing it.
I would want him to put a glove on if we're going to play catch, for a couple of reasons.
One, it's not real catch if both people aren't wearing a glove.
And two, the video looks like you're.
Speaker 2A win because he's not wearing a glove, correct Like he can just bare hand it, no problem.
Speaker 6So and would you let me ask you this, if you were playing catch with Mike Trout, would you say give me the heat, like just to.
Speaker 2See what it's like.
No, No, I'm good.
One you want to know what that feels like.
No, because I feel like he'd give me the heat and I probably wouldn't catch it, and it'd be embarrassing.
It'd be on video.
Oh he'd hit me with it.
Yea, yeah.
Speaker 1I just wish Mike Trout would would a warn glove.
That's my second note.
Yeah, that's good.
A third note verbatim, I quote Clemson sucks.
Ha ha ha A curse still on.
Speaker 2I mean Clemson suck.
Speaker 1I think they're five and five in the last ten, which coincidentally is when we put the chime curse on him.
Speaker 2Coincidence, I think not so.
Speaker 1I like individuals the roof for Clemson.
I don't even mind the Clemson fan base.
But I had to put the curse on Dabbo.
Speaker 2You had to.
I had to.
Speaker 1You were almost forced to big time this on the show, and so I was like, ah, I hate to have to do this and have to curse you, though, because I got nothing against you.
And that was right before their losing streak started, and now they're five and five in their last ten.
Speaker 6Any interest in lifting the curse?
No, what would it take to lift the curse?
Speaker 2Him?
Coming on?
All right?
You heard him, Debo.
Speaker 6I don't think he's going to hear me, did I hear?
Like one of the announcers call him Dabadabado?
Speaker 2He didn't hear that.
Speaker 6No, no, no, no, no.
I was in the middle of something and I had the game on it.
I said, well, sorry, Daba, and I'm like, I have never heard that, and that is so disrespectful.
Speaker 2I've not heard that.
Speaker 7Are you Are you thinking scataboo?
Speaker 4No?
Speaker 6No, no, okay, no, no, it was it was Davost because they were talking about you know, they were I think they were just recapped highlighting the game and how bad.
Speaker 2It's like, ooh, another battle for the Yeah, I think you might have made that.
I wish it was so disrespectful.
I had to look did you say that?
I think you did.
Speaker 1I was just checking in on the game because it was on during other games they have been, even on during the Arkansas game.
It was either on that first block or the second block when I was watching Oklahoma and Auburn at the sports book.
Speaker 2Where were you in my room?
Speaker 6So how did you adapt to hotel versus your house?
Because your house you can watch multiple games.
Speaker 1Right, Yeah, the television which had cable I watched because Arkansas game was on ABC.
Speaker 6Seventy seven, one of them.
I had all of them, memorizing go to seventy seven, Yeah, go to thirteen.
I think Aransas was on thirteen, I think.
Speaker 2And so my laugh.
Speaker 1I just had my phone so I have YouTube TV got it, so I was flipping through and then couldn't use Draft Kings in Vegas.
I'm gonna say this sportsbook betting sucks whenever you're used to betting on DraftKings.
Agreed, it sucks because you go down and you get your ticket, your ticket, you can't like see the score next to it.
Speaker 2Yeah, I does have an update on where you're at.
Speaker 1You can't live bet on your ticket, cannot Can you live bet at the casino, like I was wondering that you can walk up there with the live bet.
Yeah, and not all the games are always going live, so the options aren't as a plenty, But yes, you can live pay.
Speaker 2Yeah, you're definitely right, dude.
I missed the app.
Speaker 1Me too, so it didn't get to do that while we're there.
But yeah, Clemson rest in peace.
Tough year, A tough year.
Okay, North Carolina football game Bill Belichick during the game when when Jordan Jordan comes down and is talking to him during the game.
Speaker 2It's ridiculous.
It's not the first time that's wild.
I think they've done it every game.
Speaker 1All the comments underneath the picture of her talking to him and he's like standing there in his little jumpsuit and she's got like a black skirt like North Carolina blue, like a tank top on with a purse over her shoulder, and she's like looking up talking to him.
And all the comments were like, daddy quick at ice cream after the game, or.
Speaker 6Can I have some money?
I'm going to go to the concession stage.
Speaker 1Yes, it was really one of the great comments sections of the past few weeks, dude, But that whole situation just gets weirder and weirder.
Speaker 2Like, you know, she is running that ship.
Speaker 1I've never seen another wife or girlfriend come up to a coach in game on the sideline ever.
Now I haven't looked because it hasn't been like at the forefront, but I've not seen it.
Speaker 6Not the football ship though, right, Like she's not talking to him about I.
Speaker 1Don't think she's talking about personnel or schemes, but I think she's like dictating everything else.
Man, Otherwise she wouldn't feel like she the autonomy just to go up and do that during a game.
Speaker 2What do you think about that, Kevin?
Speaker 5Yeah, I just wonder what she's telling him, like, hey, you looked really mad on TV, Like can you just stop making that face out there?
Speaker 2Something like that, Yeah, it's weird, Kevin.
Is that I mean, dude, this is your coach, Like, that's.
Speaker 5Your I don't know him anymore, Eddie.
That's how I feel.
I honestly feel like I'm like, this doesn't even seem like the same guy.
I mean, the guy that lived on no distractions, keep focused game to game, week to week is now having a girlfriend who is what forty something years younger than him come.
Speaker 7Up to him mid game forty nine.
Speaker 1I think it's crazy.
I think it's forty nine.
Speaker 5I think it is too given the benefit of the debty sounds better than that.
Speaker 1Other notes, And I wrote this before they won the game, but I thought that the Browns jerseys were awesome, and I don't normally think that anything about the Cleveland Browns is esthetically pleasing.
Speaker 2I don't really love the colors at a bit.
Speaker 1Orange guy, and that's probably from Texas and Tennessee and just my general dislike of those two schools.
Speaker 2So I just don't like orange.
Sounded like the Browns were they wearing white?
Speaker 1No, they weren't brown like dark brown brown and the orange on them, and I thought they looked super cool because it was brown on brown as well.
And I wrote Cleveland's jerseys were awesome.
Their defense is nasty and gritty, and that's because they just continued to sack Green Bay.
They end up winning the freaking game, which is crazy because Jordan Loved threw a bad pick at the end.
So congratulations to the old Brownies.
Speaker 2That's huge for us.
Well yeah, in our money league.
Speaker 1Huge for me too, And the listeners don't really care about that.
We can get to that later.
But yeah, that I mean, it wasn't huge.
Speaker 2Oh you mean, like you me personally on the Packers.
Speaker 1Yeah, for Cinna, but I'm gonna tell you, I know they were in trouble.
Every time Cincinnati lose, we lose money.
Every time Sinnaty wins, we win money.
Since I was gonna do a lot more losing.
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah, and you could change somewhere.
I got ugly quick.
I got ugly quick.
Let me se if I made a note about that, Oh you had to have.
I did not.
Speaker 5I think it was just pretty quiet yesterday.
Speaker 2What the text thread?
Speaker 5Yeah, the text to jump in the texture.
Speaker 6I couldn't.
I couldn't that time.
I was in the air for most of it.
You don't have texting?
Yeah it's free now Southwest.
No, I didn't.
I was zoned, zoned in, zoned in the Cowboys game.
And I'm telling you you played in the game half the time half the time.
Like you guys are talking about stuff that I haven't even seen yet.
That's kind of part of why I kind of turned it down.
Speaker 2A little bit.
What do you mean, I'm just delayed?
Man?
Speaker 6Every one of my streaming services delayed from you guys.
You guys are always like, there we go another pick, and I'm like, I haven't seen that yet, and then two minutes later like, oh, there's the pick.
Speaker 2You need to pay for the premium, the one that's real time ed he's paying like a dollar?
Speaker 5Are you watching on TikTok?
Speaker 2Still, I don't know what it is.
He's watching clips.
He just just free clips.
Speaker 6Okay, maybe it's red Zone.
I think red Zone is always just delayed.
That's what I watch on mostly.
Really Yeah, okay, I got some more notes.
Speaker 2Next one.
Speaker 1I don't think i'd like doing the tush push over and over if I were Jalen Hurts.
He keeps getting crushed, especially when they're trying to rip the ball out of his arms.
So Philadelphia toush push.
Yesterday they jumped off sides again, are they I guess they'll start.
They fall started and they didn't call it, But now the replay comes out, They're like, here's another example of I'm jumping.
Speaker 2Most of the time, but they whoop up on Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 1When he's either on top of the pilot that looks like it would hurt.
Speaker 6Was it was it Jalen or was it Jason Kelcey one of them was just like, I hated every single time they called the Toush push because it does not feel good.
Speaker 1That's the first time that I've thought, I don't think I would like doing it, even if it was my team.
Speaker 2So that's a note.
Eagles will end up winning that game.
Speaker 1That was crazy wild and I have friends that had the rams plus like two and a half and they lost because of the touchdown on the block.
That is a bad way to lose because you're going regardless of what happens here, I'm gonna win if they make the kick.
I win if they missed a kick, I win.
And not only did they block it, they ran it back.
Speaker 7Same guy Jordan Davis.
Speaker 2Jordan Davis, who's like the lowest person on the field.
They couldn't catch him.
That's wild.
There were four blocked field goals in the fourth quarter yesterday, which is crazy.
Witching hour.
Speaker 1Panthers win.
That's a big, easy one.
I thought, that's pretty cool.
You guys don't care about big Panthers.
I did not see I had turned it off.
Third quarter.
I turned it off.
I took it off my your grid by viewing grid.
Yeah, so I didn't see that.
Okay, I got like five more notes.
I wrote, Pats fumble, Pats fumble, Pat's fumble.
Speaker 2Okay, I was passing fumble.
What happened there?
They fumbled too in the end zone.
Gosh, like literally, Kevin, this is your team.
Speaker 5That was the most frustrating game I have watched in a very very very long time, because not like the Steelers are any good.
Speaker 2They were better than Steelers.
Speaker 5They were better than the Steelers absolutely, and Drake may he had a really bad interception and a really bad fumble, but he was playing great.
Their defense was playing great, and they just like everything that they did was just like here, you guys win this game.
Here, take this ball.
And then Stevenson that's I think his third or fourth fumble already in three games.
Speaker 7He's got to go.
Speaker 5That was I wanted to turn the TV off so many times and rip my eyeballs out.
Speaker 1But fumbles into the end zone like as they're scoring.
Yeah, yeah, that's another team that we own.
It would have made it so much money.
It didn't work out for US, yep, but they fumbled a lot and that sucked.
Speaker 2So would you say, he's got a go Kevin?
What do you mean he's your dude?
Right?
Speaker 5No, no, no, no, no, no, no, got gotta put him down below.
We got Henderson first now, and then put Antonio Gibson, then Stevenson.
Speaker 2Oh gosh, because.
Speaker 5This goes back to last year.
He had problems last year and it was a well known thing.
And now it's three fumbles in the first three games, like, come on, man, what are we doing?
Speaker 1Another note is and I think this is because I was looking at the Browns jerseys and they were really dark, really brown, and I wrote, if you wanted, could you wear camouflage jerseys, pants and helmets kind of hide on the field, like if you made it, try to make it the same exact color that the field is, and everybody came out in like grass camouflage.
Speaker 6So it would be green camo like the grass.
Maybe some white in there because of the lines on the grass.
Speaker 2Oh, I wouldn't do.
Speaker 1Thee No, I would just do Okay, I wouldn't do white.
Speaker 2Maybe like a little fluorescent orange, a little dirt.
Speaker 1Like it'd be green and like like, would you call it filled camo?
Speaker 2Could you camo?
You're everything on.
Speaker 1You to like hide out, like if you're just standing in the field and being still, like you're laying down and you jump up real quick?
Would they have rules and regulations against that?
Even like green?
Green would be tough to see at times.
I only think this because I'm Madden, and if I'm playing like Oregon and they're all in green, sometimes I don't see them in the freaking in zone.
Speaker 2So do you think the Jets have an advantage because they're green?
Speaker 1They're so bright?
I don't know if they were those bride I don't know, I feel what they call that.
Speaker 2Color, but or the Eagles they're another brighter green, I guess.
Speaker 1But I wondered if you could go full camo helmets due they need to try jerseys, pants, socks, shoes.
You come out and you look exactly like the fields.
Speaker 2They're like, we don't know what we're trying to tackle.
Speaker 1Tell me that that wouldn't be hilarious and that that wouldn't sell, oh the camo, Like you wouldn't want to buy a grass camo jersey.
Speaker 2So I wrote that, that's that's funny that you thought about that.
Speaker 1I have two more Andy Reid bumping Travis Kelcey last night.
Speaker 2I loved it.
I don't think they like each other.
Nah, I don't think so either.
I just generally, even if you.
Speaker 1Are angry at someone in a pressure filled setting, you don't do that.
Speaker 2And this happened.
Speaker 1It's not the first time it happened between those two, Like, you don't bump them like that.
I don't think they like each other.
Speaker 2Man.
Speaker 6What a weird situation where you are the head coach of a team and you're trying to coach someone who is probably is he richer than any Reid?
Oh yeah, for sure, he's more famous inn he Reid.
He thinks he's like the.
Speaker 2Dude, like, how do you do that?
Speaker 6It's not a high school situation anymore, or even a college situation where you are the adult and they are the child.
Like this is you have no control over your tight end.
That's very much an NBA problem.
I mean, that's why coaches end up getting fired because it's that.
In the NFL not so much because it's you know, twenty two starters, not five, so not one whole person unless it's the quarterback really is able to uh weigh have as much weight for a coaching change.
And Truss Kelsey he does kind of suck now.
Speaker 9And wouldn't Andy be afraid that Taylor Swift's gonna write a song about him?
You know?
Speaker 2True?
Speaker 1Yeah, Kelsey looked slow and weak last night and they kept pulling him out.
Speaker 6Noah Gray was in so much more.
Noah Gray looks like the way Kelsey used to look.
Speaker 4That.
Speaker 2Okay, so I wrote that I don't think they like each other, so but props to Andy Reid though, I mean, you know he bumped back, and you know Andy Reid bumped him and he doesn't have any paths or in them the bump.
Speaker 1Yeah, though, like Travis Kelcey was, well, Andy Reid did all the bumping.
He's only too threw his shoulder into him.
Speaker 2Yeh yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
The scataboo backflip.
Speaker 1To see a guy that size backflip like that, that's pressilled.
Speaker 2Yeah, that's wild.
Dude.
He's gonna he's gonna be awesome.
Oh yeah, he's gonna be good.
Speaker 1I don't think he has the athletic ability in NFL wise to be awesome, but I think he will be good.
Speaker 2Man.
He's making some big plays.
Speaker 6And did you see the press conference where he's yelling in the background and coaches like it's just a daily thing.
You can hear him in the locker room just yelling.
Speaker 1I do think he'll be good, but I think he has I think his ceiling is very close to where he is now because he's not he doesn't have game breaking speed.
He runs really hard, run's really hard.
Last night, My final note is I bet three hundred bucks on Patrick Mahomes over two twenty five passing yards and he got two twenty four.
Speaker 7Yeah, it's a bummer.
Speaker 2Why why dude?
I hate that more than anything else.
Speaker 6That one stupid or if you do receptions and it's like one more catch, how.
Speaker 2So that that that sucked?
Speaker 4Uh?
Speaker 1Think about the Chiefs they just don't have the weapons on offense.
You know, we last week were like, okay, we got to like figure out what our best case scenario is after game six, because after game six you're gonna have the two best receivers back.
I don't know when Worthy comes back, maybe next week, maybe two weeks, but so Worthy you'll be back eventually.
But between Worthy and Rashid Rice, they got to have those guys.
They got basically a Patriots cut.
Speaker 2Thornton is their best receiver.
Speaker 5Yeah, second round pick too, Patriots just got them.
Speaker 6Is he the one that dropped the ball and then caught the touchdown.
Speaker 2Or the Yeah, I don't know that.
It didn't look like ad got it.
Speaker 6He got it, punched out of it like he had him and then he the guy punched out of it.
Speaker 2But he made it and hit threw his hand up like got this one.
Yeah.
Yeah, they won last night.
Speaker 1The Giants aren't good, but right now the Chiefs aren't good either.
I mean, Patrick Mahomes is David Copperfield like having to figure Kelsey's not good.
Speaker 2It's not good.
They can't run the ball.
No, it's trouble.
Speaker 5Yeah, Mahomes looks like he's trying to just win on every single play by himself.
Speaker 2He feels like, yeah, because he kind of has to.
Speaker 5I know, I throwing the ball back for it's a couple of times.
Speaker 1Hey, him taking that fumble back, oh just dove on and ripped it back.
Speaker 6I don't know, I do honestly, that's just not a quarterback move.
The fact that he did that was pretty amazing.
Speaker 1He has to do everything and he knows that even if he messes up, he's got it.
Speaker 6And he knew immediately when he threw that ball.
He's like, that's backwards.
He started running.
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Speaker 1Okay, we're gonna talk with Roman Harper, which, by the way, Super Bowl forty four champion, two time Pro bowler.
He is in the New Orleans Saints Hall of Fame.
He's first team All SEC and five second Team All secn O four.
Speaker 2He's got eleven career.
Speaker 1Interceptions, two defensive touchdowns, eighteen career sacks he played at Alabama and he's awesome on SEC Network.
Speaker 2He does SEC Nation, SEC Now, and he's.
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Hey, Roma, were you in Oklahoma for the game Auburn Oklahoma?
Speaker 4Yes, I was, And I.
Speaker 1Guess my first thought because I watched it, but I was in a hotel room in Las Vegas.
Whenever they ran the play where they trust me, it wasn't lucky me.
I'm too old for Vegas at this point.
I was working and you know those those casinos.
That's no good for me.
But whenever the old hidden quarterback widers that whenever that happened, did you guys notice on the field that was a little shady because the refs have come back now and said, hey are the came back and said that place shouldn't have been allowed.
Speaker 2What did you think while you were there?
Speaker 4Well, so I didn't stay for the game in Oklahoma.
I got out before so I could actually get back.
I watched it at home.
Speaker 8I actually got on a plane, got it made it back home, so I actually ended up watching.
Speaker 4It at home.
What do I think about it?
Speaker 8I mean, clearly the SEC and the referees have come out and said that it was illegal.
Speaker 4It should have been called.
But I've been in that situation.
Speaker 8So as a defensive back, I speak from a personal experience, is that you have to pay attention.
Speaker 4There is no excuse of oh, I didn't see him.
Speaker 8As long as the player comes inside the numbers and then back out.
Speaker 4You have to be aware of it.
Speaker 8You can't be that locked in where you kind of lose focus or you're not paying attention to that, because that's a sneaky hideaway play.
I've seen many many teams do it before, and as a defense, you're still responsible.
Speaker 4I'm a safety, so I'm the last line of defense, so I.
Speaker 8Have to be tuned and keyed into any of late guys from the sidelines or anything else happening on so we'd be able to get it all down because once it gets behind me, it's a touchdown.
So I've lived with that experience for twenty something years of playing football, and so when I saw it, it feels like, you know, one of these things kind of went didn't go against well, didn't go for Auburn.
But ultimately, though the refs either got to call it or Auburn defensively has to defend it.
Speaker 1If Hugh Freees would have complained about that at the end of the game, he'd have been fined.
However, when the SEC comes out and says, hey, we did wrong, the refs did wrong, like, I don't know, maybe he should be rewarded with like one free complaint, you know, going forward.
Speaker 4You know, I would love that.
Speaker 8I don't know who's keeping track or who's keeping count of the complaints in the meter, the complaint meter, Hey, look and all.
Honestly, the thing to complain about, man, if you're an Auburn fan is like, why didn't we run out running back?
But six times the second leading rushing the SEC, he gets six carries in the game.
He got his last carry, well, he got one carry.
That was the forty something yard game.
The only reason Auburn was not in the negative was a forty something yard run and then he didn't touch the ball again until like twenty plays later.
So maybe we can control what we can control and maybe do a couple things differently, I'm sure Coach you freezing that offense is kind of kicking themselves, like, why didn't we just call more runs?
Why didn't we try and do one or two things a little bit differently just to try and help ourselves out, because Oklahoma was starting to overwhelm them defensively by how many bodies they were throwing at them, how many guys were close to the line of scrimmage, how many guys are really trying to just affect Jackson Arnold as he continued to drop back over and over and over again.
And so to me, that's where I would look at.
And also, maybe we hit one of these deep passes, because Cam Cobman was definitely a mismatch on the outside versus anybody Oklahoma, and so if we hit one or two of those deep throws, the game also feels completely different.
And so they didn't do that, And because of that, you're not gonna win a whole bunch of road games in a tough environment like Norman was yesterday.
So Oklahoma, they weren't perfect, but they played well enough to win the game.
Speaker 4And Auburn definitely wasn't perfect.
Speaker 8And you know, they got a couple of plays that they probably won't back and they get a chance to win that game.
Speaker 1You know, going into the year of Venables was on the hot seat ish at Oklahoma.
Speaker 2But I agree they've been Michigan.
Now they beat Auburn.
Speaker 1I mean, it's fair to say that he's probably on a seat that is a lot cooler now, especially with the Materia coming in.
You know, they bring the offensive coordinator Amteria together.
What do you think there?
This will be my last Oklahoma question.
What do you think they're ceiling is this year?
Speaker 4This soon was the SEC championship game.
Speaker 8For me, it's you know, I always go back NFL thought process, and that is, you know one, that's why everybody covers the quarterback positions because once you have a quarterback, now you're in the discussion of being a playoff team.
And so Oklahoma checks that box big time.
They upgraded the position astronomically compared to where their quarterback situation was last year, where Jackson Arnold really struggled getting through his progressions and reads.
This quarterback seoh Matterier is excellent at getting through his guys, putting touch passes, and layering the football to his tight end over the middle of the field.
Also, when things break down.
He's really really good at not thinking, just getting the ball out or creating with his own legs.
Speaker 4He gives them a chance big time.
Speaker 8And then you see what they're able to do defensively upfront, creating pressure with this defensive line, especially their defensive tackles, and their edge player Mason Thomas and so are Mason Thomas.
Speaker 4What a cool name that is.
Speaker 8And so you know, those things right there give Oklahoma a really really good chance of winning ball games.
I know they're going to continue to harp on the schedule and how tough it is, how tough of a draw that they got, but this program leaves and where they're going to.
I was talking to the athletic director Castellanos, who's been there since what the nineties, so he's been there a long time.
They understand the pressure that it is to be at Oklahoma, but they also understand the opportunity.
Speaker 4That like nobody's going to give you.
Speaker 8More opportunities and more and give you more I guess, like things that help add value to yourself than the University of Oklahoma.
They're going to give you everything that they have to give you because they want you to be successful and sports matters on that campus like that feeds everything, So they do understand that, and the fans definitely show.
Speaker 4Up and show out in a big way.
Speaker 8So I think it's just all these things together really is cooled off the hot seat.
But I could also see Oklahoma losing another two or three games if Auburn hits a couple of these deep shots.
So teams that are able to be able to throw the ball down the field and challenge Oklahoma because right now they've played teams that haven't been able to do that.
Michigan offensively can't throw the football downfield, can't do it.
Auburn for whatever reason, they could not hit the deep ball, and it's guys that are open because what Oklahoma does defensively, they don't cover everybody because they think their pressure is going to affect a quarterback that I don't need to hit everybody.
I don't need to cover everybody when your quarterbacks on the ground.
So that's what they do defensively.
So if a team is able to protect the quarterback long enough to hit a shot or two downfield, it'll be a totally different game.
And that's going to be the team that I worry about.
Can Oklahoma be that type of team.
Speaker 1Let's talk about Florida for a second.
Another rough week for Logway, will Napier last the season?
I mean, a lot of folks talk about how you great of a code even Saban like we was sticking up for on this weekend, What are your thoughts?
Speaker 8Look, I don't know how great of a code Chee is, you know, but I don't think it's a real benefit to fire him during the season.
And look, the schedules already tough enough.
But for me, I continue to go back to two things.
When I look at Florida.
Number one, I think their defense is playing hard.
They're continue to battle, and it hasn't been good offensively, But you still have to do your job and your job only and when like if I have.
Speaker 4A C gap or B gap, I can't be looking into a gap.
I got to do my job.
Speaker 8And so that's some plays that Florida has given up because guys are starting to do somebody else's job, are trying to do a little bit too much.
Speaker 4And it's real.
Speaker 8Easy to stay locked in and stay together as a team and just do my job when we're winning and things are feeling good.
But what starts to happen when we lose three or four in a row, Right, maybe guys are starting to, you know, check out a little bit.
Guys are trying to do what's best for themselves.
Like I've been around it, I've been on a team like this, and so like, how do you continue to not waiver on doing your job and doing every single little thing to make to give your team and yourself the best opportunity to win down in and down out every single week, even then when you're not being rewarded with the wins, because ultimately, that's what we all do it for.
And so I want to see how that group continues to play and chug along on the defensive side of the football and on the offense side of the game.
Offensive side, they're missing too many blocks in the run game, They're not getting enough guys moved in that way, they're not giving Jade Ball enough chances.
And ultimately, like it's amazing what I see what reps do and what do I mean by that?
Like DJ Lagway hadn't practiced all offseason.
This offseason was supposed to be a year of growth for him.
Off season, getting more opportunities with his wide receivers understanding it's his team.
Speaker 4He's the starter.
Speaker 8We go as you go, and then now all the reps that he was supposed to get in the spring, he's getting them real game, live reps right now.
In games, it's just not the same.
He seems like he's a step late.
His footwork is off, like everything just seems off with him.
And we know because of DJ Lagway, they all had a chance last year in every game, so they got to get these things kind of cleaned up.
I don't know if Florida can fix their problems.
Florida has things that are inside their DNA that really hard to get rid of.
You know, they got the most penalties offensively, they got you know, pre snat penalties.
The special teams came cost them a couple of weeks ago.
So it's like all these things kind of mixed and intertwined together, Like what do you truly fix or what do we try and work on single handedly when you got like four or five things.
I don't know if Florida's gonna be able to get this boat turned around.
Speaker 1Being a Bama guy, I want to ask you a ceiling question about Bama with Kaylen de Borr.
What's the ceiling this year for Alabama.
Speaker 4I mean, Alabama's all their goals are still out there.
Speaker 8They can still reach a national championship, they can still get to the playoffs.
Let's all be true, let's be all be honest with each other.
Florida State's better than what everybody said they were preseason.
So that's number one.
So take that game, throw it out.
It probably showed you a lot about yourself, and so what do you do going forward?
I also learned another thing is that Alabama practices early in the morning.
They haven't been on the field of grass pass like eleven am yet before this whole preseason leading up to that Florida State game.
So you're telling me it's going to be some rain, whole bunch of humidity and the heat turned up at two thirty in the afternoon, and you ain't ready for it.
That's why they look so tired.
That's why the effort level was unacceptable.
So they've already changed some things, talking about practice schedule and trying to get more syncd up with when they're going to be playing.
All right, that's a smart thing to learn after a loss.
And then offensively, ty Simpson's really been on one the last couple of weeks a lot more accurate.
They're throwing the ball with efficiency effectiveness.
They're having more big plays down the field in the past game, which is what you got to have, especially if you're Alabama team that doesn't run the ball very effectively from the running back position.
Speaker 4That's been a big low.
Speaker 8That's my biggest question mark on the offensive side is how do they run the football like You have to find some kind of traditional run game at some point because you got to close games out.
You got to close teams all out, so that's going to be the thing.
And then on the defensive side, their continued eye discipline will be challenged, especially this week versus Georgia team where Georgia showed us last week they know how to take the top off the defenses too, so you got to be preparing the secondary and have great eye discipline.
Speaker 4And then who is going to rush the passer.
Speaker 8Versus Wisconsin, they actually got sacks on the quarterback that.
Speaker 4Changed the game for them.
Speaker 8It allowed them to win more on third down and not the quarterback having to be able to throw an incomplete pass or the defensive back having a makeup play on the ball.
Instead the defensive line did their part, so that part has to continue to evolve for Alabama.
Speaker 4So if they do those things, I mean.
Speaker 8Alabama's not losing games because of lack of talent, it's because a lack of execution, lack of effort early on versus Florida State, and now defensively they're playing better.
But I want to continue to watch the more and more versus You know, how does Alabama respond when you play against the team that can hit you back.
Speaker 4The best thing about hitting.
Speaker 8The boxing the boxing gloves, and the boxing bag, the punching bag in the gym is that.
Speaker 4It don't hit back, so we all look good.
Speaker 8So what happens when you get inside the ring versus another person that hits back, Because that's been the biggest question mark for Alabama under Kalin de Bors, how they respond once teams hit back.
Speaker 1I kind of feel the same way about Texas.
After that Ohio State game.
They've played three cupcakes in a row.
Now they've got to go play real teams again.
In the last few weeks.
Have you seen it?
Speaker 2Their defensive lights out?
Speaker 1Like no doubt there were lights out of the Ohio State Like no one's arguing their defense but have you seen anything offensively that leads you to believe that Texas is going to be able to jump.
Speaker 8First of all, let's give credit, like the defense is so good, and I thought that's where they were going to be missing out at the most, But that was so wrong about that.
So give them a lot of credit what they're doing defensively.
But offensively, I will say this I saw versus Sam Houston.
Speaker 4I watched the game last night on my cutupsaid.
Speaker 8The one positive I will say is that arch Manning did hit some layup throws like this twelve yard end, like a couple of these over routes that he had one hopped in previous weeks.
Speaker 4He completed the pass last week, and so for me, I'm like, okay, this was a good thing.
They also were able to run the football more effectively than they had in the past.
That's another thing.
They got to be able to run the football better.
Last year.
They ran the football extremely.
Speaker 8Well at times versus teams, and they're like, you know, you look at the Clemson game last year.
They ran the ball really good versus Clemson that time flipped the whole game for him.
So that's what they got to be able to do.
And the last thing that I say that arch Manning did better was.
Speaker 4He hit a deep ball.
Speaker 8Ryan Wingo finally called a deep pass from arch Manning this season.
Like that's what I'm talking about.
They need to be more explosive, they need to be better on third downs, but running the football better on first and second down is going to allow them to be better on third downs because it's more manageable.
So those other things that I got to see more out of Texas also still have a little bit of concern because a couple of these passes that I'm talking about that that arch Manning completed the first four or.
Speaker 4Five, you know, they were all low.
Speaker 8The receiver had to go down to the ground to catch it, so they weren't like they're able to catch it and run and wide open situation.
Speaker 4So it's still not it's still not an A plus, you know, but it's it's a B.
It's a B plus, you know, maybe like an eighty seven ish.
Speaker 8You know, I'm not going to do an eighty nine, like an eighty seven, you know, like barely bove We're trending in the right direction, so I would give it like an eighty seven like they have a chance.
Speaker 4You know, talents, that's another.
Speaker 8Team that like, talent's not an issue, it's going to be all the other little things like and and for me and you got to talk to me if you paid enough attention to this.
Texas has really struggled with third downs.
Right versus UTAP, they were like five for sixteen.
That's less than thirty three percent.
You're not gonna win a lot of games that way.
Then on top of that, they were two for five on fourth down, so that's three possessions you give away.
Versus Ohio State, they were one for five on fourth down.
Then in the red zone, they're one of the worst teams scoring in the red zone in the country, and so and then they also before they played this past game, they had one hundred and eighty yards penalty in penalty yards more than their opponents.
Speaker 4That was literally dead last in the country.
Speaker 8So these situations are also Coston Texas for well, it's kids keeping games closer than what they should be, especially in these cupcake games that they've been playing the last couple of weeks.
So Texas has to get those things cleaned up.
Because you can take the logo, the name off the Jersey.
If I'm bad on third down, I don't get I'm not good on fourth down when I do go for it, and I like to go for it a lot.
Speaker 4I don't score in the.
Speaker 8Red zone, and I'm way more penalized than my opponent.
I don't care where you're at.
You're not winning a lot of games.
So those are the things that you also need to get cleaned up as well.
It's not just arch maning and the offense playing better, but it's the little situations in football that that Texas is struggling with that they got to get.
Speaker 4Cleaned up that they didn't struggle with last year.
Speaker 1My final question, I'm a big SEC guy, so but not SEC related.
It's just dabbo, like what is going on?
Speaker 2Like what do you foresee Clemsons next few weeks?
Speaker 4Being like I mean, I would not have imagined.
Speaker 8Look, I had friends that were saying Clemson was asleep before a national championship this year, and so for me to sit up here and watch them, and you know, at first it was just a squeaky will, right, just a squeaky will.
Now the tires about to fall off the truck.
I mean, I'm I'm I'm a bit worried because losing a Georgia Tech on the road, Like, you know, that's kind of on brand for Georgia Tech, right, Like this is kind of like what they do.
Speaker 4They beat teams from time to time.
Speaker 8Haines King is a really good college quarterback that has learned his way, and they and it fits with Georgia Tech and what they like to do, their whole.
Speaker 4Brand, their home style.
So I give them a lot of credit.
Speaker 8But then Fran Brown, who I love, I let my son play football for him, for them to like beat to beat Clemson in the fashion in which they did, you know, like they beat up Clemson and we're supposed to be hearing about this vaulted defensive line, how good Kate Klebnitt was going to be with these that were freshman wide receivers last year that are now sophomores, all these players coming back, they do not look good.
They're not playing well.
The offense looks stale.
They're just not connected.
And who's going to make the play to change it.
I don't know.
Everybody said you shouldn't panic after losing to Georgia Tech because that's just too long loses.
But I'm definitely worried.
And I'm not saying Dabo's going anywhere, Like where would Dabbo go?
And where would Clemson be without Dabo?
So let's not try and break up a happy marriage that's been going on for eighteen years over three months of arguments.
So don't worry about that.
I mean, just get it back right, try and get back to what what you do love like, don't focus on so much of the negative.
Let's try and focus on the positive.
So I was always told, well not always.
I just read this in a book, actually a Super Attractor by Gabrielle Bernstein.
Speaker 4You should check it out.
She talked about the power to mind and perception.
Speaker 8And now, like you know, so often we focus on just the negative, and so when we focus on just the negative, it affects us.
Speaker 4And now we start to look at everything in the negative lens.
Speaker 8But usually for every negative, it's usually surrounded by ten positives.
Speaker 4So what are those ten positive that's Clemson doing well?
I can't tell you.
Speaker 8I ain't been looking at him that good, but it doesn't look like it's tim positives out there.
But these are the things that coaches this way, they get paid the big money because when everybody on the outside of the building is talking about about your players and kicking them, that's when you got to love on them.
And when everybody's loving on them and tell them how great they are, that's when you got to be kicking them the hardest and trying to get the most out of them, because you don't want that noise to affect them.
The highs of the crowd shouldn't affect you, just like the booze of the crowd.
If you're emotionally driven and ride the wave of the motions of the crowd, you'll never be consistent enough to get to your ultimate goals and championships.
You got to be able to just you can't bat an eye.
You got to learn how to play through it all, adversity, all these things.
That was my biggest strength probably was I never cared about what anybody said.
Speaker 4I just wanted to go play football.
And so that's what I'm trying to tell.
Speaker 8If you're a Clemson fan, if you're a Clemson player specifically, you got to just go play football.
You guys haven't forgotten how to play football all of a sudden, but clearly you're getting out executed, an out hit and you got to change that, change that tune.
Speaker 1We were doing promo for your podcast before you came on, you and Peanut Tillman.
It's called NFL Players, Thank you.
Yeah, it's called NFL Player Second Act.
So I can only do it so much justice.
So what do you guys like, what's the what's the main part of the show.
Speaker 8Well, the main part is that Penut and I we were both former NFL players.
And you know the thing about the NFL is that everybody, I don't care, the greatest ones to the practice squad guy, everybody gets told to take their ball and go home, right at some point, even the even normal people, non professionals like high school, middle school, college, everybody gets told to take your ball.
Speaker 4And go home at some point.
Speaker 8And that happens to us as well.
And so what is your second act?
You know, for so many of us, football is the only thing we did in our first love for so long, and then out of nowhere, you know, they tell you all right, well you're not good enough or you got time to go home, and so what do you do?
And we have interviewed a lot from Hall of famers to executives, to coaches to guys that you wouldn't recognize, late round guys, free agent guys that are now all in their second act.
And it's been awesome to hear the story talk about the transition that is football, transitioning out of it into figured out what everybody likes to do, Like for me, for example, you know Peanut, he jumped right into his second act, which I guess I can kind of talk about it now because he's no longer doing it, but he jumped right into being the FBI agent, and so he was doing that.
Me I took three hundred and sixty five ye days, did absolutely nothing and then it was like, all right, what do I do now?
Speaker 4I don't know?
So it's different approaches, and there is no playbook to it.
Speaker 8Right, We've gotten a playbook for everything our whole life since eighth grade since well for me, since fourth grade.
I knew exactly what I was doing every August to get ready for a football season, and all of a sudden, now it stops, and I'm thirty, Okay, what do I do?
And so that same discussion, that same question we ask everybody, and we really get to peel it all back.
Man, and these so many of our guests, are able to share great stories, great great just great situations.
Speaker 4About things that's going on in their life as.
Speaker 8Players now in their post career, whatever they're doing, whether it's charitable works or running companies, all these other things.
Speaker 4It's been really really cool to hear all these stories and.
Speaker 8A lot of our legends that I grew up watching actually getting to sit down and talk to it's been amazing.
And I still got to act like I'm not, you know, shook, even though I'm normally just the biggest football fan out there, and just I really really enjoy getting it talk to meet these guys.
Speaker 1Roman appreciate it, and everybody listening.
NFL Player Second Acts with Roman and Peanut Tillman.
You're looking for a new podcast, check it out.
Really appreciate the time.
Love you when you do your sec work, Like for sure, you're one of the best on there, So appreciate you spending some time with us.
Speaker 2I hope you have a great rest of the day.
Man.
Speaker 4Man, appreciate it.
Man, I'm sorry we got We should have got to Vandy Dog.
Speaker 8Vandy just put up seventy points for the first time since nineteen eighteen.
Speaker 4I mean, this team looks different.
They feel different.
Speaker 8Vanderbilt has been my passion project on the SEC Network and the SEC Nation for three years.
I've been sent up here telling everybody how they were turning the corner.
Slowly, but surely it looked and felt differently.
And now we talk about him every week.
So I'm just saying I was the first one, and I should move love to Vandy than anybody on the network.
And I go with anchor down every single week.
Speaker 4I roll with him.
Speaker 8And now I'm reaping the fruits of my labor because I've been talking about him and now everybody wants to talk about it.
Speaker 4I'm like, oh, look, now, now you guys want to get involved.
Speaker 8This has been my team for three or four years now, and anybody that knows and anybody's watched for that long knows I've gone to bat for Bandy for many years, and so thank you for having me on.
I hope everybody in Nashville is listening, and just know they all know it because I've got to meet some of the Vandy a lumps.
Speaker 4They know I rock with them.
They're like, dude, you always go with us.
Speaker 8So those that are listening they know, and I appreciate it and It's going to be fun.
And guess what, it will continue to be successful once Diego Pavia leaves too, because of the players.
It's not just Diego Povy anymore.
Yes, he's the conduit that makes it go, but they have better skilled players, better guys up front.
They play with an attitude and a sense of urgency.
Right now, I'm telling you Vandy is legit and this will continue to go on after this year as well.
Speaker 2Yeah, we're big clark Lee guys here.
We love coach so he is.
Speaker 4He's awesome.
He's awesome.
Speaker 2All right, Roman, Hey, have a great day.
Thank you for the time.
Speaker 4Thank you appreciate it.
Be good, see it.
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Speaker 1Let's talk about our bets, but let's do our bets with Brandon.
Okay, he accidentally Oh no, Kevin and I we were talking about talked.
Brandon is somebody that we've really pulled into the mix quickly, golf, sports football, especially like betting sports sure, and so he's like hanging out and he's like, oh, I want to learn, and he's been having a great time at it and he's been winning a lot.
Speaker 2And he meant to bet ten dollars.
Speaker 1Yeah, and you accidentally bet one hundred because extra zero he hit the zero and what was what was the bet?
Speaker 9So I saw that Daniel Jones was like targeting Pittman, Michael Pittman Junior.
Speaker 7And I was like, oh man, I can I can see him.
Speaker 2Easy ten buck bet easy ten.
Speaker 1But bet for a touchdown, any touchdown, a live touchdown, anytime touchdown.
Speaker 9Bet Yeah, I thought I put ten and then it says as it's happening, it says accept odds right.
I was like, oh yeah, I accept, but I had one hundred in there.
I was like, oh my god, like do I do I just cash out?
Speaker 2The did only give like ninety would lose.
Speaker 7Seventy at the time.
Man, I'll just I'll just roll it.
Speaker 9Five minutes later, Michael Pittman Junior scores a touchdown one five hundred bucks.
Speaker 2This is stupid, this is this is the crap we went through with a Read.
Dude.
Speaker 9I talked to Read and I told him, hey, man, I mean but Bobby, I didn't tell you.
So my wife like we my life.
We started an account for her like with the Bobby promo code Bobby's Sports.
Speaker 2Thank you for the Bobby Sports.
It's good luck.
Speaker 9Yeah, it gives you two hundred dollars bonus bets and I put we put a twenty five dollars on the parlay Roma Donzie Jackson Smith Najigba and our last touchdown of the parlay with Scataboo, we hit it.
Speaker 4Yeah.
Speaker 7Yeah, we won four hundred and twenty.
Speaker 2Bucks all touchdowns.
Oh my god.
Speaker 9We went over one thousand dollars this weekend.
My wife, My wife is like, I just it just makes me nervous.
I was like, you're welcome, all right.
Speaker 2You know this is hard for me, Like I need to be proud of Brandon and happy for you.
Dude.
They just leave it there.
I'm so happy for you.
That's awesome.
Speaker 4Thanks.
Speaker 2What we should do then, let's get Brandon's bet of the week on Thursday when we come back.
They can't put it.
Speaker 1The key is don't think about it too much, like, don't spend all week like yeah.
Speaker 9I mean, and I was watching I think I was watching Daniel Jeremiah talk talk about scataboo, how uh they were going to be using him a lot more, and I.
Speaker 7Was like, I mean, maybe I should put him in a parlay it and it worked out.
Speaker 9You know.
It's just I was just paying attention and I'm watching drives happen.
The same thing happened on a trade Tucker.
I picked Trey Tucker on the Raiders because he was being targeted, and it hit.
Speaker 2You like those live touchdown I do.
Speaker 7They're the ones that I hit the most.
Speaker 2You know, I don't know what's your go to.
Good for you, buddy, thanks man, good for you.
My go to is a good team that falls early.
They can't hit him live.
Yeah, when the odds dropp Yeah, and if they're a really good team, the odds will just barely drop.
But even then I.
Speaker 1Feel like that's probably a better bet.
I would have jumped on Cincinnati.
Thank god I didn't have access.
Speaker 2Yes, thank the gods.
They're like, do not give him access.
Speaker 1That would have been like, oh, surely they're going to make it closer than this.
Speaker 2They did not make it closer.
Yeah, they get where every time I checked it it got worse.
Have they up updated our team money yet?
Speaker 9No?
Speaker 2We have just checked three wins and three losses.
But does some of those losses kind of help out?
Don't they?
Like so?
Speaker 6So like the Panthers.
I know someone has the Panthers to lose.
So when the Panthers win, does that that helps us out?
Speaker 2Right?
Right now we have eight skins.
Speaker 1I think we're all the way updated because I think we have eight skins total, right.
Speaker 2That sounds right.
I think we were at six last week.
Speaker 5Okay, Oh so because the Bucks are at two wins, they've got three.
Speaker 2Oh okay, we're not updated all right, so it's not updated.
Let me Texas, they're gonna update.
Speaker 5And the Chiefs don't have a win yet on the column.
Speaker 1I know, Stell, it's like, leave me the but they did update.
What sucks is they've already updated ours for the Dolphins.
Speaker 5There's yeah, exactly, yep.
So it looks good.
Speaker 2It looks good now, but now yeah.
Speaker 5Yeah, but I mean at least like the Packers, Packers.
Speaker 2Loss, which is good.
Speaker 6The Panthers won, which is good.
Anything crazy like that is good.
And even so that works.
That works kind of both ways, right because I think someone has the Cleveland Browns to lose.
Speaker 2Yes, so when they win, when they win, that helps us out.
Yeah.
Speaker 1So I think so we avoided.
I don't think we're gonna make any money.
I think we'll probably lose just a little.
Speaker 2That's okay, that's funny.
I know at this point, the fact that we have Cincinnati, they're done?
Oh can they not?
Is there no quarter?
But who's out Johnny man?
Who's out there?
Speaker 4Yes?
Speaker 2Who's yes?
No?
Speaker 1No, you nailed it's Johnny Manziel anyone?
Speaker 2Yeah?
Speaker 4Uh, I know.
Speaker 5Gosh, did you guys see John Matteer what he said about Johnny monziel I did?
Speaker 2Yeah, tell Eddie, Eddie, did you see it?
Speaker 9No?
Speaker 5Where he said?
They asked him.
What's the difference between him and Johnny Monzel.
He said, I'll be going to church in the morning.
Speaker 2That is funny.
Yeah, all right, we're done.
Good run everybody.
What's the what's the run?
I don't know.
Speaker 5Live's got the Broncos and the Lions, and the Packers and the Steelers, that the Chiefs, the Bengals.
Speaker 2Oh what is our the Chiefs having a crappy schedule?
Comment they have the rape Ravens.
That's good, that's trouble.
Speaker 1I think I'm crappy as in, what about the Pats because we have we have the Pats the Bucks, and I don't know if the Buck to keep doing this crap because they have to come back.
Speaker 2Every week every week.
Man, we had it in the bag and then had to go Baker, what are the next three games for the Pats?
Speaker 5They got the Panthers this Sunday.
Speaker 2Yeah, you know what, Bills.
I'm gonna tell you right now.
Speaker 4It is not tough.
Speaker 5And then the Bills that's a loss, and then the Saints that's a win.
That could be a win too, and then the titan Here's the thing.
Speaker 1We can't like scream what's a win?
Because we're watching these games.
Yeah, you never know, but but it's better to have a game like that than having to play the freaking Ravens with Bill even the Rams.
Speaker 6Oh my god, I mean you did say the Cowboys probably a win this week.
Oh my god, that we don't have to talk about it.
Like they made Caleb Williams look good, we made Russell Wilson look good.
We're making these quarterbacks look awesome.
Speaker 1I Miss Mike asked, still, when are you updating the skins?
We do a weekly segment, and he said, I'll do it right now.
Usually wait to get my laptop, but I got you.
Make sure to mention that I've had the greatest three week stretching skins history.
Speaker 2Let me see what he's at.
Yeah, I don't know who he's Yeah, they're killing it.
Speaker 5He's killing it.
Speaker 2He is who do they have Kevin do?
Speaker 4No?
Speaker 5Eagles win, Giants loss, Titans loss, Chargers win, Vikings win, Falcons loss.
Speaker 1Oh my god, he's got six.
He had a six skin week and that's five hundred bucks of skin.
That's three thousand dollars.
Speaker 2Oh my goodness.
Speaker 5They're killing it.
Speaker 2But every time he wins, we lose one hundred bucks.
Correct.
Oh, my god, how did Wentz do?
He look good?
He didn't have to.
He looked fine.
I mean I was what do you think I think he looked fine?
Speaker 7He looked fine.
Speaker 4Yeah.
Speaker 5But their defense, the Vikings defense, just tore apart the Bengals.
Speaker 1Yeah, he didn't have I mean, we got to a point where it didn't matter one player on the I should remember his name because he had the craziest game ever.
Interception for a touchdown, f one more turn for a touchdown?
Speaker 5Yeah, Isaiah something with you?
Speaker 2Yeah, like fumble retort, sit sacks.
Brandon's like, oh yeah, I bet him to do that.
Speaker 7Brand Isaiah Rodgers, Yeah, yeah, I accident him.
Speaker 2Yeah, anytime touchdown.
I thought it was Aaron Rodgers Rogers.
Speaker 5Okay, he updated it.
Well he's updated it on the fly.
Speaker 2Wait, it's gonna take a minute.
Well he's gonna have to do all the teams, so it'll take a minute.
All right.
Thank you guys.
Speaker 1We will see you later on this week and go follow Bobby Bone Sports if you don't mind.
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We'll let the music finish so we can hit that whistle.
Speaker 4And hit it.
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