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A podcast called twenty five wist Stocking Fun and they are well whist So yeah, it's.

Too bad, but what don't you expected to.

A podcast called twenty five whist.

All right, blow up?

We don't all wear whistles anymore.

No theme song says that sometimes I don't forget mine.

We had a we had it in post from the New York Post the age our bodies reach a tipping point and they stop being able to bounce back easily.

M what do you think that age is?

Eddie forty?

Kevin Wow, thirty two?

How old are you?

Thirty four?

Are you feeling it yourself?

Really?

Yeah?

Yeah?

New researchers found the point of no return when we no longer recover as well from injury is seventy five.

What so we should be like recovery.

We should be good.

My boot should be off.

I should be running marathons.

Yeah, dude, I cut my finger and Thanksgiving it's still not good.

Researchers measured the health of nearly thirteen thousand people with an average age of sixty seven, based on thirty attributes chronic diseases, cardiovascular conditions, how they performed in activities.

They use a frailty index.

Researchers discovered the tipping point for men and women round seventy.

Like, we should be able to bounce back.

Then if we do it right, what happens is we get hurt, and we're older and we have other obligations and we're not able to focus on it.

Yeah, that makes sense.

But also I don't heal as fast as I used to.

No chance, so I do.

I guess I can bounce back, It's just slower.

Maybe it's seventy five.

You just don't bounce back.

Like once it happens is permanent.

Hey, you just sit there with it.

It's permanent marker on a shirt.

It's blood on a shirt.

So I saw that.

I would have guessed much younger too.

Dude.

My father in law he is probably eighty something, you know, like late seventies, early eighties, and he's like, he's got a trainer, and he sent me a video of him doing dead lifts.

One hundred and eighty really, you know, almost two hundred deadlifts.

I'm like, dude, old man, you're gonna hurt yourself.

That's your father in law.

Yeah, so Caitlin's grandfather, which I guess would be my grandfather in law.

Yes, yeah, he's in his eighties.

He deadlifts.

He works in the farm.

Still.

Yeah, that's like he just birthday calf a cow and he was talking about how it wouldn't it was coming out the wrong way, so we had to chain it to its feet.

Like he still gets on a four wheeler, does that.

There are just some people that like want to be physical their whole life, like my parents, like my mom, and yeah, she's got bad legs and like a bad hip and everything, but she can barely walk and she's like seventy nine, seventy eight.

He was driving a school bus until last year in his eighties.

And I think genetics has a lot to do with it, for sure, genetics and choices.

Yeah, yeah, but yeah, seventy five.

I guess it doesn't go back.

I was in therapy yesterday from my ankle.

How's that going?

I don't know.

I think I'm passing with flying colors because I'm doing all my work, but man, it hurts.

Like you look, I was looking.

I look forward to it.

Then when I get there, I realized I shouldn't look forward to it because it sucks the whole time.

It's like working out.

Its physical.

Like I was on a box doing all these lifts and it hurts because my ankle obviously is not in the condition that it was.

I'm doing you know, have a machine where you lift your use your quads, you lift up frontward.

Yeah, yeah, and then you're so they have me doing that because I've done no legwork in a month and a half and they're like, do three sets at eight and they'd put the weight on them.

Like this sucks, I'm weak.

So did physical therapy, Yes.

Well, like it's I mean, you're trending upward.

Your foot still hurt.

Like the other day you were like, it hurts so bad.

Part of the reason it hurts so bad is well, it's not all the way back.

But I'm wearing this boot that's very heavy and it hangs if I'm sitting in a chair.

It's all the blood's rushing to it.

So yeah, so numb.

Yeah, Like I have it on a stool right now.

Oh okay, yeah, but I should hopefully because I I put my surgeon tomorrow.

They're like, hey, you cannot wear the boot now you have to wear a brace, which is different.

But I can wear normal shoes.

I don't know where my li left shoes are to like three pair of shoes right now, because I've only been wearing the right shoes.

I totally to put a shoe on the.

Booth for like five weeks or so.

It's only been one shoe.

So, Okay, we have a couple of good guests coming up, but let's talk first.

Let's have a bunch of stuff.

Hey, you may in fact check this Kevin BYU's coach has to be Mormon.

No, I think that's true.

Really, So we met him.

Penn State tried to hire BYU's coach, and he was going to go to Penn State.

And then the crumble Cookie guy comes out and is like, I'm in.

I'm gonna save him.

Crumble Cookie guy, big probo guy.

They sign Stocky to a new deal at BYU.

It doesn't say that.

No, I'm seeing a couple of things to say, No, you don't have to.

Okay, Then I heard and read wrong.

Is he but is he is he Mormon?

Good question?

He did kind of he stopped drinking beer.

And he did have to go and like speak to the he went there, didn't he the head.

Of the church.

But again, I don't think you have to be Mormon to go there.

No, not to go there.

You don't he is Mormon.

So maybe it's just like recommended.

I wonder, I wonder if you can take that job and tell.

Me Mormon you convert, like you when you marry somebody.

Yeah, man, because there are people I know that have converted because the person they're marrying is a different religion.

Yeah, my wife converted to Catholicism.

Really yeah, but she didn't really have to do it.

She did classes and everything.

I know.

But that's just going through the process to prove you get the job, which is your wife like, can't you just prove?

Like you go and you study the LDS.

That's what that is, right, Mormon, and all of a sudden you are like, yeah, I'm in, and they're like, okay, you're the coach, and then you don't go anymore.

You just go through the process.

So but it's not you don't have to be No.

But but how many of the last coaches have been Like how important is that to them?

Historically, says a majority have been.

It has to it's just not an official policy.

Unspoken Yeah, policy.

Yeah, it sounds like it's probably a policy, but just one they can't put it.

Yeah.

It's like they'll interview somebody does not Mormon, just say oh we tried.

Oh good.

Point like, does that turned into like a discrimination thing?

Like it's Rooney rule in the NFL they have to interview a certain number of minority coaches.

Yeah, and that they have to interview a certain number of non Mormon coaches.

To prove one Christian all the denominations.

He almost depends date.

Yeah, that was a surprise.

Man, they are, but they just kept falling.

I mean it was a surprise because nobody else that they wanted wanted the job.

They that job opened up so long ago before any of the other jobs open.

They fired James Franklin thinking we're gonna have our pick of the litter.

Yeah, it's crazy, and there's no litter.

I was reading the grades from this sec unfiltered on Twitter and they graded Lane Kiffen an a plus.

Now he does have to go and win a national championship.

This is the first coach I've ever seen that has to go somewhere and win a national championship or it is not a successful higher.

What's the grade on the grade on the higher or the great on the coach?

The higher?

Yeah?

That both.

That's yeah.

I think that's why you get the grade.

I don't mean like a coach, like you give Lane Kiffen an A plus because just for being a coach, like he's an A plus coach.

L s U they gave the A plus because they hired Lanky.

Okay, it's the higher then Florida.

They gave an A for John summerl which there are some coaches and we've had Summer on the show before.

There are some coaches that shouldn't do some of the quirky social media stuff.

And I was watching a thing where I think it was maybe to caw Spikes who played to Florida, and he's picked up the phone.

He's like coach and it's like coach walking out of sidey.

He picks up the phone.

He's like it's Sugning Day and like that's not Sumerll's thing.

It's a weird video, Reallyrand Yeah, thank you, thank you because he just goes it's spikes.

I don't know which one of us is.

Like a bad actor.

It just is a little too corny for his personality because he's not a corny personality.

Yeah, Like he doesn't seem like a playful guy like Save, like Saving doing corny video.

Yeah, it would be Saving or Belichick doing corny.

He doesn't work.

Blane Kiffen could do cordy.

Ye oh, that's all he does.

Yeah.

They gave summer On a at Florida.

They gave Golish a B plus at Auburn.

They gave will Stein a B plus at Kentucky.

I thought for Kentucky that was a really great hire.

Yeah, he's a Kentucky guy and his offensive cordator Oregon young guy.

I think he's in his thirties.

Pete Golding C minus, who's now the new Ole Miss head coach.

That was an interesting thing.

We talked about it where it was like, hey, interim coach, and the hour later it was like, no interim, he's now the head coach.

Yeah, yeah, we talked.

Yeah, we talked about it last time.

I just wonder if it's like a desperation thing or not.

I think it's probably a bit of they had that planned in case Lane left.

They just didn't know if Lane was gonna leave, and they didn't want him to leave.

So it's a bit of both.

Like who else you gonna go get?

Like Penn State's trying to find a coach, I think you're gonna get a coach probably bigger than Penn State.

I think you like what the best option available is.

I think Penn State's gonna happen to hire their interim coach.

Yeah, And at this point, it's like, hey, we're happy to have you if you're because he was a coordinator their interim code.

Yeah, it's under Franklin, and I think he's probably hoping that nobody takes the job because he wants that job.

The players were advocating for him their last game before the season was over.

The football coaches ever take their their crew with them, like their.

Ocst Lane took a lot.

But I did see the Office of Coordinators going back to coach Ole mess for the playoffs.

Oh yeah, that's good.

That helps them eats something.

Man, that's crazy.

They do a lot.

I mean most do.

Most of the ones that they like they take with them.

There was the story of Lane given the ultimatum, if you don't get on the plane, you're not gonna come to l s U with me.

Turns out it wasn't right then, it was like two days later.

They all came over.

That would make the movie though, right, the dramatic.

Get on the play.

Well, that's that is the movie.

And Jerrem McGuire, Jeremy maguire, who's with me?

The Goldfish.

They gave Ryan silver Silverfield the Arkansas a D minus.

Dang, I know that's like that's my college grades.

Yeah, high school for sure.

High school.

Yeah.

I got a text from Jared Allen he's played from the Vikings.

Oh yeah, yeah, yesterday, and so he said, hey, if you want me to connect you with the new razorback coach.

He's a good friend of mine and an old coach of mine.

So I guess they're friends.

And then he coached in the NFL a bit with Minnesota.

Oh really, well that's cool connection.

Does Jared Allen text you a bunch?

So are you watching this game?

Bro?

No, we don't text like that.

We do live close to each other.

Yeah, and him and Matt Castle are good friends.

And so Jared came over, did our podcast, and then when we went to the Super Bowl, he was being maybe in Doug, isn't.

It it was Hall of Fame.

He's a fine, he's getting inducted this next year.

No, it was the announcement of his induction.

He's been inducted or or making the Hall of Fame.

Yeah, okay, So.

But he was there at that So I spent some time with him there too, and we just lived close.

And so now it's like, yeah, that's cool man.

Yeah.

So Castle knew that Jared knew the coach, and so Castle was like, hey, hit Bobby.

So Jared texting was like, oh, I didn't know whatever.

I thought, that's pretty cool.

Yeah, I'm not I've not talked to the we I texted the new Arkansas coach.

Oh you did already.

Well, I have a friend that connected us on a text.

But I know this guy's underwater right now.

Your first two days it's all PRU going on.

There's no free time.

He was in the basketball game last night, which we did beat Louisville.

Yeah that was awesome, big one for us.

We needed.

So but he's doing Like signing day was Wednesday yesterday, so like he had to hit the ground running.

Penn State got two recruits.

I saw their fifty because they only had two people signed.

That's crazy.

The big ones on with James Franklinder decommitted and they don't have a coach, So who are you signing to?

And Franklin's with Virginia Tech.

Yeah yeah someonent there with him.

Yeah yeah I did.

Yeah, So yeah, there's that.

I'm talking about the games coming up.

It's an interesting weekend, mildly like.

I think number one is the Ohio State Indiana game.

To me, just what I want to see because I just want to see if Indiana plays close, and who knows, they may win.

But I don't feel like Indiana is on fraud alert because they did beat Oregon at Oregon, but it's been a while.

Yeah, and Ohio State is that good?

Oh, I say it's so good.

They're playing Georgia.

Alabama might be like, yeah, I like the chances, but because it's Ohio State, I'm like.

I don't see it happening, and they get surprised us all yeah, but I'm anxious to see they did beat Oregon.

Indiana's never won a national championship.

Indiana's never won a conference cham big Ten Championship.

It's crazy.

This might be their first time playing in the Big Ten Championship game, but I do know they've never won a Big Ten championship.

They're basketball school man.

They used to play football with a basketball till recently.

Yeah, back in the day.

Yeah, they would ask you at a time, do you guys care if we use the basketball for this?

They started dribbling the football.

Sc championship game.

Don't only care that much.

They're both in to the playoff and also a time my teams.

I don't care.

The Big twelve Championship GA is interesting because you wonder if BYU beats Texas Tech, it screws up the entire college football playoff because that is not a spot that they have already dedicated to BYU.

They've already dedicated it to Texas Tech.

They're gonna get a by They're gonna be one of the top four teams.

And for them to get that, they're gonna have to win this conference championship game.

And they are a twelve and a half point favorite.

Yeah, and Tech whooped them earlier in the PST time.

Do you think BYU has a chance?

I don't think they'll win.

Has a chance.

I mean sure, but I don't think they'll win.

But if they do, it screws up everybody's, at least the committee's current call.

Do you want to see that as a guy who loves chaos.

Yes, My short answer is yes, it sucks.

Vanderbilt can't get in.

No, Texas should not be ranked on Vanderbilt just because they have three losses.

Don't lose to a four win Florida team.

Like, don't lose to a four win Florida team.

That's the answer to that.

It's like you scheduled Ohio State, Great, you lost that game.

That's okay.

You can lose that game.

You can lose another game.

Don't lose the freak Florida.

Look at Vanderbilt's two losses.

They lost to Alabama and Texas.

Yeah, like these other teams, most of their loss.

That Florida loss was terrible.

Yeah, no offense, Mike, I wish that wouldn't have happened.

But Texas shouldn't be in.

And Texas shouldn't be ranked over Vanderbilt even though they beat them head to head, because they have an extra loss.

That head to head needs to be if you're the same and you've played head to head, then you are up.

Yeah, it shouldn't be with an extra loss.

You lost to Florida.

I mean you swap them as far as their logo and just team school in general, and you know they're they're gonna.

Be up there.

Big twelve championship.

We're talking about that one.

That's about it.

I hope Duke went.

Hope Duke beats Virginia.

That's the chaos, sake up.

That's the chaos that I want to see.

How about your Cowboys tonight, baby, tonight.

It's a big elimination game, big one in Detroit.

Man, I don't know, there's a lot of I was getting the auto part the other day for my son's car and the lady saw my caught my my hat, and she's like, let's go Cowboys, and I go, man, it's actually like looking pretty much.

She's like, don't say that.

Don't say that.

They always let us down.

And so I don't know.

I'm going into this week with I hope you don't let us down.

Here's why, here's why you're annoying.

You started the season Cowboys, don't do it all.

Then you gave up on the Cowboys and said you're no longer rooting for them, correct, you committed to you don't care anymore.

You guys suck.

You're no longer rooting for them this year.

Did you notice I stopped wearing a half a little bit?

No, yeah, I stopped wearing the Cowboys half for a little bit.

And now but now you're so back other people are having to convince you to calm down.

I know.

It's just that's the life of being a Cowboys fan.

Man.

Like, look at the beginning of the season, did you really think we had a chance of making the playoffs in Week six?

No?

Week seven definitely not.

Then we just started.

I mean we beat the two Super Bowl teams that I.

Think that tigans Packers is kind of the start of it.

Yeah, but then after that we fell off.

Yeah, but that that gave you a little hope.

That Cardinals loss was your big punch of it.

No, dud, it's like, what are we doing?

We don't even want to win?

Like I started think you guys could play because your offense was so good.

When when Ceedee Lamb went out and picking started to be that dude even though you weren't winning, then you had two dudes.

When Cede got back, and that's really hard to stop.

With dak Clan as well as he is.

We got two dudes, we got a running game, we got a defense that we keep stacking on.

We got people that were hurt at the beginning of the season that are coming back.

Now Diggs is going to play tonight.

I mean, it just feels like something good is happening.

But talking yourself into heart ache.

What's crazy, though, is after you know, Nilan committed suicide, that kind of people are talking about that really brought the team together to play for Nielan.

You know, I don't know how much that plays a role in it, but it seems like this team's got more than talent.

They've got fight in their heart to win this.

For Kneeling, that's just what people say.

It's not about him.

I'm not taking the death part of it when you win.

What people say.

It's like the most annoying thing when when teams are getting ready to start their season and our fans are the same and they're like, all we need is like this guy to step up, Well, what do you meet step up?

That's such a generic thing you say whenever you just are like, man, if he steps up, if it were up to him, he'd probably stepping up.

They's men up.

But sometimes you're just not big enough, strong enough, you don't have the skill set, you're not fast enough.

There's no such thing as man, if we just get this guy to step up, what does that mean?

Step up?

It's such a generic thing that people just say because they don't know what they're talking about.

No offense to you.

I didn't say step up.

I know, but you're kind of like the magical mystery of the Cowboys.

But if they lose, does that mean they didn't care about him and his death.

No, it's not that.

It's just that, you know, death sometimes brings families together.

I know my dad died.

We started texting.

That's way I heard someone laugh.

This is way different than your dad dying.

But man, my sister and I texted more, my brother and I texted more my mom, Like, we just all got closer.

I feel like the Cowboys are getting closer because they suffered a loss together.

They very well on the fields, they very well could.

My only point is if you're saying that's why they're coming together, then you have to If they lose, then go, well, maybe that wasn't what was happening at all.

Well, and that in the injuries and like you know, lam.

Out that's already happened.

Yeah, yeah, I know.

But then and then our defense was in shambles, dude, until two weeks ago.

We can week and a half ago, like that's when we started getting players back.

Over Sean came back, We got new linebackers, We traded for Kenny Kenny Clark.

Well that's from the beginning.

But Quinn Williams we got, we made, we made changes.

Listen, I hope I wrote for the Cowboys.

I bet a future on them because it was it paid off so well, if they hit a bet one hundred bucks twenty six thousand.

That's your bet.

Yeah, I did one dollar to win two hundred.

I would love for them just to make the playoffs because if they have such a high high Uh.

I hate the term mine c octane nofin.

Yeah, it's stupid high power baby running.

And then I say octane offense.

I'm such a loser.

Anyway, Cowboys played an igus.

Is uh Saint Brown playing.

I haven't seen a decision made, but let's hope they are trending that he's not playing.

Lines are minus three Yeah.

Whatever, that's what.

I've made a lot.

I've made so much money on those dumb lines where Cowboys are underdogs.

I'll take it.

Oh the lines, not the Lions with the lines.

Yeah, good line, got it?

Uh yeah, do you see anything about Amon Rossis?

Says questionable still as of right now.

If he can play, he probably plays because they can't lose this game either, because really, you don't have the luxury to let him get back to full health.

If he's clear to play and wants to play, you're setting yourself off other games weekend Seahawks and Falcons, we'll say I don't care.

Bengals and Bills, we do care, because the Bengals have to keep winning and the Bills need to win.

Like both of those teams that they they're both looking to win because it hasn't been the greatest of seasons, at least compared to the expectations that were set up up on them.

And they both have high octane offenses.

God, I'm stupid.

The game I think America is waiting for his Titans and Browns.

Oh, it's a good one.

They should just put that on like a stream.

Is that?

Yeah?

Yeah, it's in Cleveland.

Commanders of Vikings.

Nobody cares Dolphins Jets.

That's very similar to the Titans and Rounds, except the Dolphins are winning a little now, but still nobody cares Saints and Bucks.

Colton Jaggs on that Colts and Jags a good game.

I'm not thinking about us right now, guys.

I'm just talking about the general interest of the people.

I'm always thinking about us.

See, there's a Ravens interesting game just because it's in the division and a division that nobody's good.

Yeah, up for grabs.

Yeah, it's so up for grabs that the Bengals could keep winning and play themselves back into it.

Yeah, Broncos are Raiders.

That should be a runaway.

Bears at Packers, that's interesting.

It's a good one.

It's at Green Bay.

Rams at Cardinals, and Texas at Chief is a really interesting one too.

Yeah.

Chief, they both that's close to a playing game for both of them, or at least a elimination game.

Yeah.

It's like you don't only play your way in, you just play to keep playing for the playoffs.

Chiefs are in Kansas City at three and a half point favorite.

Monday Night, Eagles at Chargers pretty good, so that's your your NFL slate there looking at the twenty five Whistles parlay presented by Draft Kings.

That's all you man, Okay, I feel like I can nail this one.

I'm out.

I've not bet against Indiana one time.

I've bet a lot of parlays with Indiana covering.

I'm going to Ohio State minus four.

Oh yeah, it's really hypocritical to me because I've been something that's been working for you.

Yeah, you change.

I'm gonna go Georgia minus two and a half over Alabama.

O comic con Kevin just looked down.

Kevin looked down like he didn't want to say something.

I'm looking at the link.

What's the over under on Duke Virginia?

Hm?

Well, those two teams have high octane What are you thinking I.

Might go under low octane team?

I never bet an under never it is it makes a game so boring.

It's like I'm betting to be bored.

Yes, and mostly for me, it's because I have to watch the whole game to see if.

I win fifty seven and a half.

I'm going over Duke in Virginia.

All right, alright, O team, it's the best when you hit that one like a halftime done already it.

And like I'm just watching the pace to see if they're like above schedule, Like if it's the average over under sixty and a half, but they've scored combined like forty one points in the first half.

Yeah, I'm feeling pretty good.

And then you hope the game's close so they can keep scoring on each other and raise it up, because if it's a blowout, are they going to just lay off the offense going to just sit back?

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We're gonna go over now and talk to one of the most plugged in people in college football, Ross Dellinger.

He's a senior college football reporter at Yahu Sports and we talk about the podcast that he's on.

You can follow him twitter x at Ross Dellinger.

Here he is Ross Dellinger.

Ross really appreciate the time.

I want to start first with something happening here in town where we're seeing the Vanderbilt head coach Clark League call out, let's play a game.

You don't get to play.

Let's just play a game.

Will this ever in the history of the world happen where a college football coaches yells let's get a game in.

Uh No, I don't.

I don't think that's the way it works.

You you can't just suddenly yell out on a Tuesday it's it's like that.

It runs by that office episode with Michael Scott, I declare bankruptcy.

He just yells out.

I declare bankruptcy, and he thinks that all of a sudden his financial worries will go away.

So no, that's not how That's not how it works at all.

Coaches that think love the idea of controlling everything and pushing a button and making something happen, but that's just not logistically how it's going to work.

You do understand that's frustration though, right, They lost two games, and I understand the head to head in Texas or Vanderbilt not gonna make it, but the fact that Texas ranked ahead of Vanderbilt, they did beat him head to head, but Texas lost three games.

So don't you do you understand Vanderbil else like anger at the system?

Sure?

Yeah, I mean, look, there's one hundred and thirty seven FBS teams.

There's sixty eight Power Conference teams, and we have twelve playoffs.

Right, the number of spots make up about nine percent of the FBS, So nine percent of FBS makes it to the postseason.

Most pro sports and a lot of NCAA sports too, at least twenty percent or more of a of a field make the playoffs.

So uh, there's a lot of frustration about the size of the playoff field, and that's.

Why commissioners are, you know, steady trying to come to some resolution or agreement to expand the field.

So I think there are a lot of frustrated schools out there, and Vanderbilt has a right to be frustrated.

Texas to a degree, has a right to be for straight in Utah is ten and two.

They certainly have a right to be frustrated.

But that's the way it is right now with the twelve team playoffs.

I think the committee kind of sucks in that Miami beat Notre Dame.

Okay, so head to head, but they still have Notre Dame ranked over Miami right now now.

But to contradict themselves, they've got Texas over Vanderbilt.

Like they're kind of saying one thing but also showing a different thing.

Does this mean we need to open it up to more teams or less teams?

Yeah?

Well, I mean, you know there are some people out there that think, you know, that twelve is actually too many, right and we should go back to four, or maybe if they should be eight or six or something like that.

You know, you talk to college coaches and most of them will say annually that there's six to eight teams that can win the national championship, So twelve gives us a few more than that.

Twelve seems like a good number.

But again, when you look at other pro sports and even other NCAA sports, nine percent of the field making the postseason, nine percent of the sport making the pro season seems to be a kind of a low number, And I think that's why, you know, a lot of commissioners and athletic directors hope that commissioners come to some agreement on perhaps a sixteen team field, or may be even one that has twenty teams.

Twenty plus teams.

Yeah, I'm in for that.

It's full hunger games, like everybody in like no conference championship.

We don't need them anymore because we're seeing, except for BYU maybe beating Texas Tech to get in, like, the conference championship games really aren't mattering in the grand scheme.

I think it's cool for like an Indiana who has never won a Big Ten championship to be able to play in one, But I think the championship games don't matter as much.

So let's kill this week and let's make it thirty two teams.

Let's use this week as the week leading man.

What do you think about that?

Yeah?

Well there, you know, there's a proposal from the Big Ten.

It's a twenty fourteen proposal, and it would basically kill the conference championship games, right it would.

It would force uh, it would force you know, college athletic leaders to basically eliminate conference championship games and then on this week you have perhaps you have Army Navy.

You move it up a week, and the next week you start, you know, around to the playoffs.

That's sort of the idea.

In this twenty four team bracket, you'd have multiple AQ automatic qualifiers for the Big Ten, four for the SEC, four for the ACC, four for the Big Twelve, two for the Group of five and six at low arch.

So that would that would be.

The format of how the playoff field would be set.

That's a proposal from the Big Ten.

It's under discussion.

The SEC and the Big Ten have to agree Brandy expanded playoff format to be approved and adopted, and right now they're not agreeing.

The SEC is not agreeing with that format.

They want more of a smaller field sixteen teams.

They only want to expand out probably to about sixteen teams, and they don't want the automatic qualifiers.

They want a bigger at large pool.

Is Juice Kiffen one of the weirder stories in the past five years?

It is, Yeah, it is the fact that I guess Lane Kiffin.

I don't know the details except that maybe Lane Kiffen doesn't the dog or something.

Yeah, that dogs toe the dog is with other people, you know.

It's just it's it's typical, right.

This, This Lane's or which I've followed out for a week, who quite literally physically followed him around Mississippi and in the Louisiana is a weird one.

The whole story is odd, and.

This is just I guess I shouldn't be surprised another odd part of the story.

It is brilliant because I would often see Juice Kiffin's tweets and I'm like, Lane's got a dog, who doesn't love?

A good American man with the dog must mean he's a pretty good person.

Must mean there's some depth for love that maybe I didn't think Lane Kiffin had.

Because Lane Kevin's buncing around everywhere loving nobody, and he has a dog.

So there's that.

And often during my life I only had a dog, so I related to that.

And Juice is like killing He's tweeting out, you know, can it be Ole Miss and Georgia in the championship game.

He's tweeting from the plane.

Turns out he lives at a kennel.

He doesn't even live with Lane.

It's the most bizarre thing.

Also, shout out to the person who created that as a pr tactic because it made me like Lane a little more because he likes dogs.

Yeah.

Yes, a lot of people were drawn to Juice.

In fact, I remember visiting Lane when he got well he got Juice quote unquote whatever, and that was like years three or four years ago, and I was there in Oxford and Juice was a puppy and he was in the office.

He was in his office.

So I don't know, I don't know what to make of all the the Juice dog.

You know, there was an email that's like Ross is coming, get Juice over to the office cause you's gonna write a story for sure.

What do you think the lame situation is in at LSU and Baton Rugine.

How many does he have to win a championship in three to four years?

I think there would be a lot of disappointment if, certainly by year four, if LSU didn't win a at least win an SEC championship at the very least.

You know, when you get into the playoff as big as it's gotten at twelve, and it might be in four years, it might be sixteen or twenty four or whatever.

It's kind of a craft shoot.

I think people understand that, kind of like the NCAA basketball tournament sort of.

But just getting there is important.

So just competing and being in the playoff I think is number one that you need to do.

But look the last well before Brian Kelly, three straight LSU coaches each won a national championship, and I believe they all did it in their third year.

I think they all did it in their third year.

With all with all championship games held in New Orleans, it all just kind of odd and so as it turns out, I believe in twenty twenty eight, the national Championship game is in New Orleans.

Lane's third year, so there's gonna be a lot of people pointing to that obviously with.

Peek Golden taking the job at ole Miss and you could probably confirm or deny because I don't know what to believe anymore.

There's the story of Lane being in his office watching the Iron Bowl and Golden coming in and being like, this is my office, now get the crap out of here.

Is that even true?

I don't know.

Then it must not be so, but it must not be.

Yeah, I don't know.

I'm not sure.

I that would be pretty crazy.

But then again, we know that.

Before that game, right before that game started, the meeting at the Chancellor's house, the oldest Chancellor's house, which involved the chancellor and Lane and the athletic director Keif Carter did did end, and that's where Lane sort of told him that he intended to leave.

So by that point that Saturday night, it was it was known.

So it's possible that that that happened, But that's that's I have not heard that.

Do you think there is any true to the idea of if Alabama had lost that game, that Caylen de Moore takes a job at Penn State and then Lane ends up going to Alabama because that's a job he really wanted.

I have a hard time believing that Kaylen Deboor first off, would would have left Alabama.

For Penn State.

I just have a hard time getting over that one to begin with, that that was a possibility.

I don't know.

I don't know if that was ever really a possibility.

I do know that Lane takes advice and leans on certain people that probably believe that the Alabama job is a great job, certainly like Nick Saban.

So I just in order for that to happen, I think the first thing that had happened was Taylan leaving, and I just never believed that was a real possibility.

I now have a new possibilit You had a cat briefly.

Is that a real cat?

Is that even your cat?

Or are you just trying to get us to like you better?

The cat that was yeah, that I had to throw off my lap?

That is Is that really your real cat?

That is that is my cat?

I promise you it doesn't.

It doesn't spend although sometimes I wish it would.

It doesn't spend like the weekends in other days when I'm off camera in some kennel somewhere.

But it is my it is my cat.

I don't know where she went now Juice the cat Juice Juice Maybe No, her name is Maxine.

We call her max for sure.

Do you think Indiana has the talent to play with Ohio State?

I think when Indiana has done looking well, I will state the most talented team in the country.

I think they have.

Shoot, they probably have like five of the top ten players in the country just on one team.

So it's going to be tough.

Uh, they're playing really well right now what they did in the cold and sleep on the road in Arbor.

But I think what Indian has done and how their quarterback is played, and how their defense, especially their defensive front is played, I think they can hang around.

I don't think they're gonna win, you know, I think Ohio State has too many weapons.

But it wouldn't shock me if they entered the fourth quarter that's a one score game.

If it is a three or more score game, any chance they lose the buy I.

Would be surprised.

I guess it depends on what happens in other games.

You know, if Alabama beached.

Georgia, that would probably push Georgia out of the top four in the by If BYU were to upset Texas Tech, right, that would push Texas Tech off the buy.

So if one of those two things happen, you would think even with a big even losing significantly, Indiana would still get the buy.

If those things don't happen, in Texas Tech wins and Georgia wins, it beats Alabama maybe to be closer, but I still think pretty much, no matter what, they'll get the buy that you know that if everybody wins that's in the four right now, they probably except for this game, obviously, we're talking about the three of the four.

If they win, they'll stay in the buy and I think Indiana does too.

I think it's just where they'll slip, right they'll probably slip to if Georgia wins.

They'll probably slip to numbers number three.

If they lose against Ohio State, and especially if it's not like an overtime game or something, but if they lose by two or three touchdowns, they could slip to number four, maybe beyond Texas Tech.

It's possible.

I don't know about slipping to five though.

I have two final questions for you.

If Duke wins the ACC Championship, do they get in.

That's the big question.

If Duke wins, are they ranked in front of JMU, And your listeners are probably like, what are you talking about?

JMU four?

And I'll explain because it's there's a little misconception that the Power Conference champions, all four of the Power Conference champions getting AQ and there's one designated for the G five champion.

That's not right, actually right, it's the five highest ranked conference champions.

So if the ACC champion isn't raked ahead of the second highest G five Group of five champion, which would be potentially JMU, then two Group of five champions, the American champion either two Late or North Texas, they play each other, and JMU get into the playoff and the ACC would be left out.

There's a chance that that happens if Duke upsets Virginia.

Now, the Duke win over Virginia is a I mean this ten and two that ranked the top fifteen, top seventeen, so that would be a good win.

It isn't enough to jump Duke over JMU.

Jamie was ranking.

Number twenty five right now, Duke isn't ranked at all, So does that get them in the rankings.

That's going to be an interesting one for the committee if that all unfolds.

Yeah, Duke's had five losses, right, I mean it's kind of hard to rank a team with five losses.

Who lost?

I mean they lost to NC State and it wasn't counted as a conference game because.

It was already lost to Yukon.

Yeah.

Yeah, final question for you, who do you think actually can win?

If you had to tear these out?

Who can win the national championship?

Certainly Ohio State, I think Georgia, you know, I I think Indiana has played well enough.

I'm gonna win at Oregon tells me a lot that they should be a contender as well.

And then I look at the way Notre Dame is playing, look at the way Notre Dame played last year in the playoffs, and it makes me think that they can win a national championship too if they get in.

That's another going to be another interesting debate by the selection committee.

No Texas Tech, No Oregon.

Look, I mean Texas Tech's front seven, in their quarterback and how.

He's played.

Uh, they have the they have the tools I think to do it.

I don't think there's any doubt about that.

And we've seen Oregon just doesn't seem to the level it was last year.

Obviously, it lost in the first game last year to Ohio State in the weird format and the weird playoff format.

But I think to a degree, all you know, all these teams, all these Power conference teams that make the playoff have a good chance, you know, to make a run.

And like I said earlier, it's kind of like the playoff expanded enough where it's kind of like the NCAA tournament.

If you get in, who knows who could happen.

On Instagram, Ross Underscore Dellinger and also check out College Football inquirer uh the podcast and yeah, thanks for the time.

I've been reading a lot of your lane stuff, so yeah, excellent job.

And tell the tell Juice the Cat.

We said, what up.

Hope you guys have a great day.

Get to you.

Thanks guys, one buddy.

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Now we're going to go over to former NFL wide receiver Alan Robbinson.

He played for the Jaguars, the Bears, the Rams, the Steelers, the Lions.

After a dominant college career at Penn State, where he was a two time Big Ten Receiver of the Year, we talk about this.

He hasn't officially retired yet, but we get into it.

But he does a lot of coverage on the NFL now and you can check him out at Alan ro Robinson eleven.

Here he is Alan Robinson.

Hey, we were having a little debate Allan, because there's a graphic of you that we have up on the screen and it's you as a lion.

But then around the room it was like, I don't know, should it be a jaguar?

Should he be a bear?

Like what would you have made you on the graphic?

Ooh, that's a great question.

I probably would say a bear.

That's probably what I would go with.

Bear.

I would say bear or jaguar.

I'm kind of torn, you know, at the end of the day.

For myself, I talk about it all the time on which, you know, when it comes time to retire and what team I want to retire.

As you know, I'm still kind of split down the middle.

Yeah, that's a understand bad graphic.

We like to apologize for our lion graphic.

There, Alan, listen, listen, I got a lot of love for Detroit.

Man.

I'm from Detroit, you know, so it's all good.

And you played multiple sports too, right, Were you a track star?

No, I was a basketball player.

You know, I was a big basketball player.

I tell everybody, man just over even now, you know, still and in my lifetime, I've spent countless numbers of hours more in the gym than I did on the field.

Did you think you might play basketball at the next level?

And when did it go from basketball to football?

Yeah?

I did, you know, even then, you know, having some small offers in high school, you know, basketball wise, for me, it shifted my junior season.

After my junior season in high school football wise, kind of when I shifted my focus going into my senior year for myself, you know, that's kind of I was a three star recruit, I think.

But you know, even a lot of that was from I didn't go to any like Nike football camps or I didn't go to anything like that.

You know.

For me, I was mainly playing AAU.

You know, I was in California, Las Vegas, Arizona over the summer, you know, playing in these kind of tournaments.

You played at Penn and I have NFL questions too, But I'm just generally curious about your career and that you played at Penn State and you you know, you lead the Big ten of receptions, and but it's cold.

If you'd have played somewhere warmer, don't you feel like you could have just balled out so much harder?

You know, I'll say this, I mean, that's that's possible.

But at the same time, you know, I think for me, especially my sophomore junior year, was a combination of getting Bill O'Brien and there he was a guy who trusted me through and through to be able to give me those opportunities, you know, And he also was a guy who came from New England, you know, so rain, sleet, snow hill.

He was going to throw the rock.

You know.

It was only a couple of games that I can remember where you know.

The elements affected us passing the ball, and like I said before, that was only a couple of times.

Whenever you're getting ready for the draft, and I think you in the second round, like what were they telling you pre draft?

Where did you think you'd go?

Who did you think you'd go to and then how did it shake out?

Yeah?

Actually I thought I was gonna go to the Carolina Panthers the week of the draft.

So the draft was on a Thursday, I believe that, Sunday, Monday, and Tuesday.

I spent those three days talking to Carolina receiver coach.

He came to Detroit.

We spent time in my high school on the board watching film for about three days, you know, so he got to know me extremely well.

And it felt as if you know that that was a viable option as far as where I would go.

Why didn't you go there?

What happened drafting Kelvin Benjamin?

And you know, sometimes how the draft works is everybody has people a little bit different on their board a little bit.

And when I say different, I mean a little bit different than when you have like the top mix shades and stuff like that.

Like everybody's border is a little bit different.

So Kelvin Benjamin may have gotten taken early.

You know, I think that they may have drafted me.

But then you go somewhere warm, you go to Jacksonville, I mean, how did that feel good to play ball where it's not freezing cold?

It did you know, and and also for myself, you know, that was what I wanted to do my mind.

Even in college.

You know, I would tell people that I wanted to go somewhere hot when it came to the NFL, so granted, I would.

I would joke at everybody and say it was Jacksonville, you know, which for me wasn't ideal.

But at the end of the day, it was hot, and now was something that I asked for.

Yeah, I wanted to be warm, like I have to wear gloves just to stay warm.

You wear gloves to catch ball.

I hate cold weather.

By the way, onland.

If you can't tell, hey, so you feel you you're done though now right like you're done, you're done, you're retired.

I'm not retired yet, so I mean, you know, at the end of the day, I'm a I'm a I'll feel out to see where my body is at next spring and stuff like that.

You know, I would say that I'm definitely closer to retirement than any other time that I've been in you know, which also may be an option next spring.

But I'm not.

I'm not totally done yet.

I wouldn't.

I wouldn't completely close the door, you know, Obviously, we've saw receivers in other positions come back after being a year out of ball, just as far as getting their body right and stuff like that.

So are you training you stay in shape like football shape that ye oh yeah, I'm yeah, I'm in shape.

Yeah, Man, I do the same trend that I've been doing, you know, even even when I was active on a team or playing.

You know, I was on a treadmill last week, you know, doing some high high volume sprints.

You know, I hit twenty three miles an hour, you know.

So I'm still in great shape.

Man, I'm in great shape.

If a team called right now, you can take the call right now.

I wouldn't.

And that's based on a few different things, you know, again just kind of you know, I've been in this situation before.

When how much you have to learn of a playbook and stuff like that.

You know, I've kind of closed closed the door on this year, you know.

But being able to possibly get on the team next year for OTAs or in the spring, you know, that would be a better option for me rather than jumping on a moving train right now.

That'd be a little bit tough as far as and that's more so the mental aspect.

Of it all.

I was listening to your analysis and then I was also watching some of your clips on Instagram.

You guys can go Alan Robinson eleven and like watch you talk about ball.

How do you like that version of your career now where it's you talking about it instead of playing it.

I enjoy it, you know.

I look at myself as kind of like a savant a little bit when it comes to football, as far as knowing the x's and o's, knowing the ins and outs.

You know, that was something that I prided myself on my career.

So being able to, you know, speak on that I feel very comfortable with because, like I said before, whether that's in meeting, communicating to my teammates, communicating to my coaches, coverages, different things up front with the with the O line and stuff like that, being able to have a good grasp with everything that's going on.

I took pride in that.

We talked about the Bears earlier.

I want to start with the Bears right now.

If the playoff started, they'd be the number one seed in the NFC.

How about those Bears?

Like, how real are the Bears this year?

I think they're real?

You know, especially now as they're starting to gain confidence to pick up steam, and you know, at the end of the day, they've taken the personality of their coach.

You know, I've said since day one, Ben Johnson is the real deal.

You know from the way that he coaches, how detailed he is.

For him, he coaches his best in crunch time and in close games, so his teams tend to play the best at that point in time too.

You know, he's not a guy who's, you know, gonna get tight when it comes to play calls and stuff like that.

Man, he's going to empty the clip and he expects his players to do the same.

And I get that different humans have different personalities.

But when you say a coach is detail oriented, did you ever have a coach that just didn't give a crap about details?

You don't have to say who you don't have to say, who say?

I wouldn't say, didn't give a crap about details.

But I think there are coaches who are a little bit more detailed oriented when it comes to specific splits, specific depths, how those things happen.

Because you do have some some offenses and stuff that's more schematic, and you do have some offenses that's more matchup.

Base, and so the schematic would be the more detailed, like you have to do things exactly based on the scheme more so than who you're up against.

Exactly schematics and timing rather than some matchup based schemes are a little bit more loose and you know, the quarterback may wait on your timing a little bit more than more of a scheme based offense that's predicated on timing.

What about Dallas Cowboys.

You're talked about the Cowboys these last few weeks.

They look pretty good defensively, they're playing much better.

You think they can make the playoffs.

They started off slow, so I think it has to do with the other teams around them.

Do I think they're a caliber a playoff caliber team right now at the moment.

Yes, And even how we just kind of talked about matchup versus scheme, I think when you look at them, they have a lot of matchup based stuff in their offense, which gives Dak Prescott to kind of hold on his back foot, wait for George Pickens, wait for CD Lamb and then be able to just give those guys opportunities.

And that's contested as well, because you know, to kind of follow up on the schematic thing is, you have some coaches and I even heard Ben Johnson say that since press conference, you have some coaches who don't believe fifty to fifty balls are good opportunities for the offense as opposed to you look at a team like the Dallas Cowboys.

They'll throw George Pickings fifty fifty balls any day of the week.

I feel like two of just those all fifty fifty balls your thoughts, he does, and.

Within it's funny because they're more of a they're more of a schematic based offense, you know, so you can kind of understand how that may not play into that, you know, into the what the Miami Dolphins are are doing, you know, for him throwing fifty fifty balls in an offense as majority scheme.

Base Chiefs are six and six.

This is a now that one of these teams going into this week, it's pretty much an elimination game as they play the Texans.

You think the Chiefs make the playoffs.

They have a tough row to head, you know, again playing against the Houston Texans this week, I mean we've saw what their front is like and defensively what they're doing.

So do I think they have a shot?

Yes?

Do I think they'll get in?

No?

When you look at the NFC, it's just a cluster of a bunch of these teams that have three losses to four losses, but all of them are good.

Seattle, San Francisco we talked about the Bear, the Rams.

Rams had a bad loss last week to Carolina, But you have a lot of really good teams, but really not a team that has raised their hand to say, hey on that team, who do you think it is in the NFC?

I may have to say to Seahawks.

And I say to Seahawks because watching their defense and their run game.

You know, throughout the course of the season, their defense has continuously got better, They've been relatively healthy, they have a good run game, they have a playmaker in Jackson Smith and Jingba, and you know, when it comes to teams making deep playoff runs and being true contenders, that's the makeup for it.

Obviously, you have the Rams, who have probably the best quarterback in the NFC and who's playing the best right now, and they have a good defense as well.

But I think Seattle Seahawks defense is a little bit more playmaking as far as how many turnovers they've been able to force and how they've capitalized on those throughout the course of the season.

The Eagles are struggling offensively, would you put us solely on the offensive line, like what's happening there?

I put it on the offensive coordinator.

And I say that because when you kind of go back to the origin of Nick Sirianni and just him being a eleven base personnel kind of guy and the scheme that was originally brought there for me, Like I said, all the time, when there's numerous players Jalen Hurt, Sakwon Barkley, Devonte Smith, AJ Brown, Dallas Godd, when you aren't getting even the old line as well, when you aren't getting the best out of a collective group, I can't just put it all on those guys to say that they chose to not play their best.

At the same time, to me, that's more of an offensive scheme thing and some things needed to be tweaks needing to be made.

Again.

I don't know exactly what they're running and how they're doing it, but I do know that it's not working.

And when you look at it, everything just seems to be off across the board on all levels of what they're doing on offense.

What do we learn about the coaching hires?

Because you have Vrabel Patriots are killing it.

You have Liam Cohen and Jacksonville they're winning.

You got Ben Johnson Chicago they're winning.

You're talking about three teams that did not win and now here they all all performing well above what they did last year.

Like, what do we learn from all those coaching hires this season?

Well, I'll say this, I think one thing that we learned is last year was a phenomenal coaching carousel as far as the options that were there.

But at the same time, I don't think every year is equal to that.

You know, like this year as far as coaches, like, there'll be some names thrown around, but when you look at some teams looking to add coaches, is who is that gonna be?

You know, there may be some big names that are fired, you know, hopefully for some guys that are looking to make a big splash.

But I don't think that every coaching carousel is created equally as Like last year, you had a lot of big names, you had experience in Mike Rabel, you had Ben Johnson, who was you know, the hottest offensive mind the same with Liam Cohen.

You know, you look at where he's come from and his tree and what he's done, you know, And I don't know if that is you know, current right now.

As far as the coaches that are coming up.

Don't you look at the Titans and listen, we're a national show, but we live in Nashville.

Like to fire Vrabel like that might have been the dumbest move in coaching in the past five years, right.

I agree, you know, And again, where do you go from Rabel?

And now they're back at the drawing board as far as being able to bring in a coach, And I mean, like you said before, you're in Nashville for the Tennessee Titans.

What are some of the names that you would say that what kind of.

Maybe steer the boat back in the right direction and get back on track or kind of maybe get it to where Rabel was.

I mean, and again I think that's extremely tough acts.

Yeah, and because they don't invest here like that.

There's a reason that they call this a poverty program.

Like there's a reason that the Titans usually weren't good even with a great coach like Vrabel had some really good teams, but now you see those were Rabel led teams, not Titans organization teams, like, there are certain organizations that are just not good.

Right, Listen, that's a that's a full conversation for another day.

I think as a player, you get that and you understand that once you go to a few places that again, everything is not created equal in the NFL as far as organizationally, you know, facility wise, what the standard is, cafeteria wise, across the board.

Man, everything is not created equally.

And sometimes you have those teams in a like you were saying, in a situation where they have Mike Rabel, they can't contend.

But other than that, you know, you have teams where if they don't have a phenomenal coach who's able to rally some good pieces around for the most part, you know, they're just gonna kind of fade to black, you know, and they'll be They'll be relevant when I say they meaning some of the teams that you're speaking of, they'll be relevant every blue moon, but not consistently.

Yeah, Titans, Cardinals, like just see there you go.

No, yeah, I keep going on that, but like you said that that's for another day.

Did you have even Cincinnati?

Look at they've just now got an indoor facility just now to practice in.

Yeah, all right, Look tell me the truth.

Best food.

When you played who had the best cafeteria?

Best cafeteria food, I would say it's a tall between Pittsburgh and Detroit.

Both of those have very very good food, very good food options.

It's funny because when I was in Jacksonville, shout out to Jacksonville, because I always joke and say, going into it, it was like a for me, being a young player, I didn't think too much of it.

But and again they've made some addition.

Shout out to the con family because they have made some changes, you know, since they've taken over.

And once I got there, they.

Were relatively new to the ownership of the Jacksonville Jaguars.

But we didn't consistently eat in the cafeteria.

A lot of things that took place there.

Going from Jacksonville to Chicago to whereas you have an entire practice facility, you know, where you come in there, you see all the trophies, you see the cafeteria, you know, so it's been a lot different, you know, from place to place, but fool wise, I got to give.

It to Pittsburgh or Detroit.

Let me ask you one final question here, and we appreciate the time, But when you were playing college ball, the hardest stadium to play in as a visitor.

Hardest stadium to play in?

Funny because I only played I played at Ohio State twice.

I won there once.

I would say possibly Nebraska, and I say Nebraska because the time that we played there, Man, not only is it a pretty hostile environment, but the winds were absolutely ridiculous.

You know, I know that's kind of smack dab in the.

Midwest, you know, around what you have in that area Iowa, I think Kansas and stuff is close and that in that kind of region.

And I always hear about the win there, and sure enough, when we did play there, we were trying to find pockets of the field and stadium to pass the ball.

Armember before the game, Bill O'Brien coming to me like, listen, man, like there's gonna be some spots where we could take some shots.

But right now, this stadium is like a complete wind tunnel, and I don't know if we're gonna be able to air it out.

How we want it.

So that was that was something that I always remembered and I didn't know if it was like that, but I know the same thing going to Iowa, fine wind tunnels, rain, but Nebraska was.

A little bit more.

It was a little bit more turned up than Iowa was.

Hey, Alan, good luck if you decide to go back and play ball again next year or you know, as you continue your career and talking about football because you obviously know the game as good as anybody.

Like, good luck and that we really appreciate the time.

You guys can follow Alan at Alan Robinson eleven on Instagram.

Alan, hope you stay healthy, Hope you have a great holiday.

Thank you very much.

I appreciate it.

Man, thanks for having me all right.

It's funny sometimes when you realize as an adult how you relied to as a kid.

And I told the story many times about me finding out about my dog that was sent away to a farm.

Oh yeah, and I was forty years old when I found out.

I was like, what, that's not what happened.

That's not what happened.

He died.

Yeah, they'd put it down he bit people.

Oh okay, but they told me that the Arkansas Keith's friend who lived like on Alice, And I thought that my whole life.

And then one day I was telling my wife and she was like, that's not true.

No, you knew and you didn't know.

No, she just knew.

It was such an absurd story.

They send him to like out of town.

I never saw him again.

And Bobby fell for it as a kid, you know, and I still was holding on to it.

So I called him.

He's like, no, I happened.

He was dead shot it, man.

He didn't even know that.

He didn't even know that.

I didn't know.

Dang Eddie has a similar one about the Mike Didco restaurant.

This was like, I don't know, twenty years ago, nah, probably like fifteen years old, going to a child.

No, no, no, I was about fifteen years ago.

My wife and I go to Chicago and it's our first time there and we see there's a Ditkah's restaurant and I'm like, oh, Mike did go the Coach and like, let's go eat there.

So we walk in there and it's pretty empty, but the bartender's like, man, pick wherever you want to sit, and I was like, hey, does Mike Didka ever come right.

He's like, did you just missed him?

Five minutes ago?

He was here, sent at the bar, had lunch and everything.

You just missed him.

I'm like, dangn, that's crazy.

And I thought about that my whole life, Like I could have met Mike Ditka.

Yeah, if you know, holy if I would have gotten there five minutes sooner, I could have met Mike Didka.

I was telling a friend of mine from Chicago.

I go this story, and he goes, oh, dude, they tell that to everyone like he's never there, you know, But like they say that so that you can say, like, yeah, dude, you missed him five minutes ago, he was here, come back again.

He might come back tonight.

That's smart, damn.

Or just that you tell people about it.

Yeah, he goes there all the time about the bar, so dude, and like this was just the other day, and I was like, I've thought that he was really there my whole life.

Did your buddy give you crap for it?

Yeah?

Felt you really thought he was Like I thought you were a child.

They're like thirty years old when that happened.

Dude.

That restaurant's crazy though.

They have a Bloody Mary drink that's called I think Mike's Bloody Mary because Mike, Mike obviously drinks it.

Probably just had one for you got there when he was drinking five minutes before I got there.

And it has like a chicken finger in it, it has like a hot dog in it, it has shrimp in it.

It's just loaded.

It's the biggest drink I've ever seen in my life.

And like, did you get one?

No?

No, I wouldn't even drink that, got it?

That's too much.

I got a couple of things before we jump.

So I saw this clip and it was Odell Beckham talking about the struggles of one hundred million dollar contract and how it's cutting half and now you can't have generational Well here is Odell Beckham Junior talking about this on the Pivot podcast.

Always explained this to people.

I'm like, bro, you give somebody a five year, one hundred million dollar contract, right, what is it?

Really?

It's five years for sixty we're getting text that's twelve a year.

You know that you have to spend us, save, save, invest, flaunt like whatever.

However, just being real, I'm a buy a car, I'm getting my mama house.

I'm gonna do everything costs money.

So you if you spending four million dollars a year, that's really forty million over five years, eight a year, you know, and now you start breaking down the numbers, it's like that's a five year span of where you're getting eight mill?

Can you make that last forever?

And now you always hear the people who ain't us and ain't been in the position be like, oh.

Well that one last life time?

What is he talking?

There ever been more out of touch human?

What is he talking about?

You can make that last?

Yeah, you can make that lot.

You gotta take that middle part out though, where you're gonna spend a little.

Bit of me my car, I go spend a little his spen.

Then after you do all the spending, like an eight million levels yeah, put into uh, like there's stuff that we do that we put it into these accounts.

I don't know what they are, and it just gets interested.

It's not even like a bank account and all that.

And then also it's like investment accounts too, where people like manage these massive accounts and there are just ways that you make money if you have money.

It's crazy now I understand being given sixty million dollars it's tempting, right, Like I just made sixty million dollars, like right now, it's in my hands.

I can buy a boat like I get the spending is tempting, and he has.

But you can make generational wealth with that money.

Also his endorsements, though he didn't even talk about that.

I mean salary Obie Jay is when he was in his prime, like ten years ago, whatever it was, he was everywhere.

His cars, he's got at three out of fifty thousand dollars, Rolls Royce A three hundred and thirty seven thousand dollars, Ferrari A two hundred and twenty thousand dollars, Lamborghini Hurricon Spider.

That's how you say that.

So he's got Okay, at.

That point, you're not thinking about your generation, like the next generation, right, You're thinking about you.

And he's got a kid too.

I'm sure the kid will be fine.

I'm sure you will too.

But that's crazy to think.

And here is the unfair thing about what he starts with.

Well, if you get one hundred million dollars, you get tax.

Well if somebody makes eighty thousand dollars a year, they also get tax.

Now it's not the exact same tax rate.

But it's also not a clear eighty thousand dollars.

It's sixty three thousand or whatever the tax So it's not like only rich get money taken off to everybody does.

So whatever you claim, the taxes come out of it.

But I do see.

I see what he's saying with you think it's this much, but it's after taxes.

It's but it's the same things.

Somebody says I'm make a hundred thousand a year.

They're not getting a hundred thousand dollars in a year, right.

But when you say millions, it seems like a whole different ballgame.

But it's the same.

It is the same.

You're right anyway, I thought that's a funny.

Clip, really really really out of touch.

A drunk ninety year old man in California survived after crashing his car into a coffee shop on Thanksgiving.

The shop was closed at the time.

We talking about old people doing stuff.

Yes, I wonder if you're recovered.

Yeah, he's twenty return yeah, return tools.

Car plowed into the Los Gatos Coffee roasting company.

Oh Thanksgiving night, that's what that is.

Yeah.

Those According to police, the driver was a ninety year old man.

Nobody was inside the shop at the time.

It was close for the holiday.

The driver was hospitalized and now listed in stable condition.

Police aren't investigating the incident.

KSBW.

This is nothing like that.

But I remember when I I was at the beach, you know, and they have those go cart races, okay, and we was time to you know, they put the red light, like all right, I put the cart back and it was like last lap and I was going and everyone had already in front of me.

Put the cart back and people were getting out of their go car arts, and like, I hit the gas instead of the break.

Dude, I nailed all of them.

People were falling out and everything, and I'll never forget that.

It's probably what this old man felt like when I don't know what he did, but he maybe hit the gas instead of the break.

I've been there, done it.

He didn't.

It wasn't a coffee shop.

I didn't go in a coffee shop.

But I'll never forget people's face, like what are you doing and the guy hit the brake, don't hit the gas.

That sucks.

I'll never forget it.

Okay, I think that's it.

Anything guys go cow it's a local thing.

But Vanderbilt, man, they're up and coming.

Those recruits see him flipping.

Well, yeah, to have money, I know, it's great.

Who's giving them that money?

Nate Pergatzi, I don't know.

I don't know whe they're getting the I'm not giving them money.

It's not my team.

Uh, yes, to have money.

I mean the Arkansas guy came in and who's our new coach?

Sover felt and got a bunch of the Arkansas recruits in the state, like the top four of the five that were other places, and people are like, manage really changing it up.

No, No, he just has more money now, that's what it is.

People are more confident in him than the last administration, so they're giving him more money to go and spend on players coming in.

So it's not about coaches giving a better speech in the living room.

Yeah, with clerk Lee, he's legit.

But they're al he's getting more money because he's turned it around with Diego and all that and confidence in donors.

They got the number one quarterback the five Star Warslus is going to Georgia.

Right down the street here.

Oh he's from a Yeah, and he was going to Georgia and he's going to Georgia.

I knew that.

I didn't know he lived here though, Yeah, what's the name.

I saw him?

I didn't recognize it either.

It wasn't like Willie Peyton or anything.

Willie Manning Peyton's other nephew.

When when you like give money to school, do you have to give it to him right away?

Or can you like pledge it.

Different?

There's not a real there's still no like yeah wild West.

You can do whatever you want.

But most of the time the stuff that I've done just giving them the money straight up yeah, or I've just committed to doing nils outside of because you can do that.

You can hire people.

It doesn't have to go you have to clear it through like the people that go anything over five hundred ninety nine dollars.

You have to go through a board that says, okay, this is actual nil money because you are using them for name, image and likeness.

Before that, a collector could just come together and go, we just promise you all this money if you come to play for us, Like there's no name, image likeness, it's just we just promise you this money.

You can't only do that the same anymore.

This might be in the weeds too much.

And I don't know if you can say it or not.

But like when you put when you donate into the NIL, do they tell you exactly where it's going?

It's not really so now it's more profit sharing.

You can do NIL outwork there.

There are a lot and everybody does it differently.

The policing is so different.

There's no policing.

I just know if you're like, hey, I'm giving you ten thousand dollars on course, yeah this guy or this program, not the basketball football.

Some schools probably do that, but I think that if you're going to do that, they would want you to do yourself.

Gotcha give it to them directly well, and then they did work their name image like this part of it because players also are getting paid not through an IL, through profit share with a twenty million or so that each school gets now and they're committing money to each person that way.

That profit share equal no, yes, yes and no, but not for power depending on if you play in like G five power.

Four, but the quarterback gets the same.

Oh no, no, not at all.

No, no, no, no, I thought you meant to eat.

Did the schools get about the same amount of money.

No, no, no, I mean yes to that, but not all schools do because.

They'll create they don't.

Yeah, right, the revenue, right, but no.

No, if you want a great player, you pay them more money.

Yeah.

Okay, And I've probably said a couple of things wrong and all of that depending on what school you're a fan of.

I just know how a few schools do it, and those are different ways than other schools are doing it.

The how it's done is still so wide open, and you wouldn't really win a lawsuit lose a lawsuit either way because there are no real rules.

That's crazy.

It's crazy.

You think Sam Houston State would take five hundred dollars.

I think you can donate to the foundation or you could.

Yeah, I mean I think there's a way to do it.

Yes, I mean, you know, like give him like a hundred hundred bucks and I ow, baby, what are you gonna get like a backup hunter?

I don't know.

Whatever they want to use to quarterback.

In Texas in high school right now, I'm like, hey, man, you use it wise the boys Samson State?

All right, We're done.

Jared Curtis, By the way, what's up?

Jared Curtis is his name is the quarterback?

Yeah, Eddy boy, all right, Thank you guys, see you next week.

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