One of the

most urgent tasks of our country is to decisively defeat the climate hysteria hoax.

We are in the beginning of a mass extinction.

The ability of c o two to do the heavy work of creating a climate catastrophe is almost nil at this point.

The price of oil has been artificially elevated to the point of insanity.

That's not how you power a modern industrial system.

The ultimate goal of this renewable energy, you know, plan is to reach the exact same point that we're at now.

You know who's tried that?

Germany.

Seven straight days of no wind for Germany.

Their factories are shutting down.

They really do act like weather didn't happen prior to, like, 1910.

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That's right, Greta.

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We have a big show today, and we have a very special guest today.

So I wanna get right into it and get started.

We have with us, as usual, Anthony Watts.

He is a senior fellow at the Heartland Institute and the publisher of The World.

Most viewed website on climate change.

What's up with that?

We have Sterling Burnett.

He's the director of the Arthur b Robinson Center on Climate and Environmental Policy at the Heartland Institute.

And, of course, Lynea Lucan, research fellow for energy environment policy at Heartland.

And, I wanna thank our producer, Andy, who had the power go out in his house about ten minutes before we went to air.

So he might be able to get back online and help us out in the background, but I wanna recognize our producer as well.

But, of course, she was gonna be on last week.

Something came up, and she is on this week.

We're welcoming you back to the show, the lovely Lois Perry.

She is the director of Heartland UK Europe, the host of the Lois Perry show, a bird's eye view, which is a very cheeky little title there, Lois.

And, she just happens to be one of the most effective and influential commentators on climate and conservatism and common sense anywhere on the globe.

It is our honor to have you back again.

Lois.

One introduction.

Maybe in The UK, not certainly not on the glow in the globe as, you know, as you you guys prove, but thank you so much.

You I thought I've seen you on Australian television.

Is that not true?

Maybe.

Okay.

Yeah.

I've done this yeah.

I've I've done Australian television.

Yeah.

There you go.

See, Globe.

And and I have

a special couple of ago.

I'll take it.

Alright.

I love I'm an Essex girl, hence the bird thing.

Yes.

Try continental.

Try continental.

Just keep the compliments coming, actually.

It's all.

Well,

it is it is certainly a pleasure to have you on today, and there is a lot to talk about because what they used to call global warming, they now call global climate change.

This is a global fight for climate realism, and you're kicking it over there.

You know, you're kicking butt over there, as we say, The United States with partly UK, Europe, and we are gonna talk a little bit about that.

But I know you wanted you wanted to have something to say of of about the recent horrible events that happened in The United States recently.

Thank you, and thank you for giving me the opportunity to do so.

I'd just like to say on behalf of myself, my team, and I can't speak for everyone in the in The UK, but I can certainly speak for the majority of right minded individuals in The UK.

We would just like to offer The UK's most sincere condolences after the assassination and the death of Charlie Kirk.

The he was extraordinarily respected this side of the pond, the mother country, and we are absolutely devastated.

And all we can hope is that his death and I I don't think I'm exaggerating here.

Like Jesus obviously, he's not Jesus, but that his death will mean that that more people will will come to our side, more people will realize that that what's going on, and and more people will come to God and and to Christ.

So his death will not be in vain.

So, yeah, thank you.

And, you know, Lois, you're right about that.

It's not in vain.

I read just this morning that over 65,000 requests have been put in to the Turning Point organization for new chapters at high school and colleges.

I mean, wow.

My son who he'll tell me off, actually.

I'm gonna do it anyway.

I'm gonna do it anyway.

So my son, he's 22.

I was a child bride, obviously.

My son, he he has never had any particular interest in faith.

In fact, he has been almost passionately athe an atheist.

Said to me the other day, I'm interested in finding out more about God.

Don't want to be on the side of the people that are making these horrific comments about Charlie Kirk.

And I thought, you know, I need to be a little bit balanced here.

I said, well, you you it doesn't mean you're a horrible person because you don't have faith.

Lots of people who don't have faith are good people.

But he said, yeah.

But there's something that Charlie had that I want.

And I thought, my goodness.

My son, who's been a passionate atheist, unfortunately, for all this time saying that, that that gave me such extraordinary hope.

I I think we're gonna I think he's I think it is a sacrifice, and and it is not in vain, and and and the movement is gonna explode because of it.

So thank you so much for sharing that with me about the chapters that because that that's proof of what I've been thinking.

Thank you.

Like his wife said, you guys have no idea what you've unleashed.

Good.

Powerful testament.

Yep.

Yep.

For sure.

Alright.

Well, our our backgrounds here are a little bit messed up.

I wanna apologize to the audience, and I really love seeing that little green thing going around.

And maybe we could fix that in middle of the show.

But it'll just you know what?

All that's just distracting from from looking at Lois.

You know?

So let's just make sure that she has got the attention she deserves because she has a special guest

on her show.

Thank you.

Alright.

Let's move on then to, you know what?

Last week, we we always start the show, as you know, Lois, I'm sure, with the, the crazy climate news of the week.

And last week, it was a little somber, so we decided to give, our intro guy for crazy climate news the day off.

But guess what?

You're back on the job.

Here we go.

Alright.

Thank you again, Bill and I.

Only one week off for you.

Alright.

So we're gonna get to our crazy climate news.

The first one here, comes to us from The Daily Skeptic.

I I titled it in the sidebar, which you can't see right now.

Dying to save the planet, and the headline here is, funerals should comply with net zero.

Says labor, labor party in The UK.

So, you know, apparently, labor wants to scrap gas cremations and make families say goodbye in eco friendly wicker or bamboo coffins instead.

And they link over from The Daily Skeptic over to The Telegraph.

I'll read a little bit from this.

New rules for crematoria drawn up by the UK environment department are set to be upgraded to meet both new pollution standards and The UK's commitment to reach the target of net zero by 2050 championed by energy secretary Ed Miliband, your favorite your favorite person ever.

I love you.

Favorite point.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Under the plan, the government will seek to cut emissions of greenhouse gases and other pollutants, including mercury from dental fillings and airborne toxins from burning coffin glue and embalming fluid.

Draft rules also suggest crematoria burn crematoria burn bodies one after another with no gap to retain heat and save on gas.

A tough target for an industry that relies almost entirely on gas fired ovens, DEFRA makes clear that the burning of that the burning coffin and corpse will generate emissions even if powered by green electricity.

Oh my gosh.

There is, however, a downside to cremations powered by electricity, which is that they take much longer.

Cremations in gas ovens, quote, range from as little as fifty minutes to more than two hours depending on body size, unquote.

But, quote, cremation times on electric cremate cremators are longer, the guidelines warn.

Industry estimates suggest that cremating a large corpse would take up to three hours in a crematorium powered by low carbon electricity, twice as long as with gas.

Anthony, I know Lois is gonna weigh in here, but I wanna start with you.

This is just really gross.

I mean, is there literally no aspect of life that the climate zealous won't micromanage?

That's exactly what I was thinking.

Yeah.

They wanna get control of every aspect of your life, and they use the guise of, you know, we're going to burn up from climate change if we don't change our lives.

And and it's an absolute lie what they're getting into.

I mean, the bottom line is is that when you look at at temperatures, like, for example, the Central England temperature index, it has not changed significantly for a couple of centuries.

The same thing goes with the US climate reference network in The United States since 02/2005.

There's no significant changes.

The idea that we are getting hotter from climate change is not supported by the data.

Yes.

Overnight temperatures have gone up, but that's mostly due to the UHI effect and the micro siding effect that I have, exposed in the 2022 climate report at Heartland about weather stations.

And The UK is seeing now the same thing.

We've got a great, group of people over in The UK that are with the the Daily Skeptic and others.

They are going through and looking at all these weather stations, and they have found that the Met Office weather stations are even worse than The United States.

And they've even they've commissioned news stations where they don't even pay attention to the siding.

You know, there are fours and fives on the scale, which are considered unacceptable by the World Meteorological Organization.

So, you know, the whole temperature data is just not supporting that we are getting a real crisis with climate.

And but the people that are dumb, like Ed Miller bland, as we call him here, don't pay attention to that.

They don't actually look at the data.

They do not actually pay attention to history.

They're only looking at the rhetoric that comes out in the latest press release, and that's what they latch on to, and that's what they use to try to control our lives.

Rant over.

I'd I'd like to weigh in on this.

I I was the one that shared the story, my, you're right, Jim.

There is no aspect to our lives that they don't wanna control.

Evidently, in The UK, even more so than here, it's sort of cradle to grave, literally grave, climate mandates.

They don't want you to have children now.

Right?

They're they're constantly harassing, haranguing people, saying children are bad for the planet.

You know?

They'd like one child or no child, climate, China type policies, I suspect, if they had their wish.

And now they want to tell you how to care for your loved ones, post death.

They, despite the fact that the electric, cremation, let's be clear, it might be three hours, but it could be as many as five hours.

If you've got multiple they want you to do them back to back to back.

That could stack up for days, you know, as opposed to moving through a number of bodies in a single day.

It could take much longer.

And, of course, where does your electric power come from?

Are you gonna be able to cremate people in the days the wind isn't blowing?

The sun isn't shining for a week.

Good old sunny UK.

Oh, wait.

It's not.

Will you have the power to run the electric crematoriums?

Well well yeah.

I mean, the the irony

It could create more emissions, and it's just none of their business.

Lois?

No.

No.

You're absolutely right.

And the irony is, obviously, because nobody can afford to heat their homes in The UK, our cost being six to eight times more expensive than you guys because we're not fracking, that that people will be freezing to death.

So they will have, you know, extra people needing to be created in the winter where there's no wind and there's no solar.

So how are they gonna do these eco fumaroles?

You're gonna have extra bodies because of net zero, and then you're not gonna be able to create them because of net zero.

So where where does real life actually you know, where where does reality actually come in?

But it's interesting what you say about I had a good friend of mine who retired a few years ago.

He was the head of Big City Radio two.

He was a good guy.

He was a bit of a woe, but he was okay.

Anyway, so I went to his retirement party, and Ed Ed Miliband was there.

And I said, oh, at that time, I I was heading up a a a climate realist organization, nothing on the scale of you guys, very small, but but influential organization in The UK called Card Twenty Six.

And I said, I don't believe in the science.

And he was mortified.

I mean, completely mortified.

So he said, I need to talk to you.

I need to talk to you.

And it was a bit weird.

He kept pulling me off.

He wanted to talk to me, and then he got a bit strange.

And then he'd have a drink, then he come back and pull me off down to the stairwell to lecture me about the dangers of c o two.

He kept going, you must come into parliament, Lois.

You must hear.

It's real.

It's real.

And you know what?

I actually believe that look.

I believe he is a Marxist.

100%.

We know that.

But I also believe he's really bought into this stuff, hook, line, and sinker.

And he's a zealot, and zealots are dangerous.

He's a zealot for communism, and but he's also I genuinely believe believes all this gump.

I really, really do.

So absolutely.

So, yeah, so we'll kill them all off in the winter, and then we can't create them.

Good plan.

Well done, UK.

Good comparison.

But you should England England doesn't have a lot of space.

I know that.

No.

But you should find a space, some wilderness area that y'all protected for decades.

You're not gonna say anything that I'm gonna get in trouble for, are you?

I hope not.

I'm just gonna say, look.

The Native Americans used to have some Native American tribes used to have a practice.

Well, a banishment.

No.

They they they set them up on when you died, they would set up a pyre, not a burning pyre, but just a stand and leave you out there and let the buzzards and whatever birds you have in The UK take their choice.

There's no methane.

It's, you know, it's it's just

Yeah.

We we haven't gone up for him.

Sorry.

I mean Nope.

Now that we're getting into the macabre, I would simply say my protest to this would be, if I had this situation in The UK, I would tell the funeral director to take the body in the casket to 10 Downing Street and drop it off and say, this is your problem now.

Yeah.

Well, you know, I I I was yeah.

We should move on.

This is

pretty it's pretty grim.

It's getting a little bit macabre.

Yeah.

It's getting a

little bit gothic, isn't it?

Yeah.

Well, you know,

if if thought you would say e emo.

Yeah.

Well, that's that's that's why this story is such so perfect for crazy climate news of the week.

That's true.

That's what

we call it.

Yeah.

Well, I'll I'll

just I'll just close by saying if I happen to pass away in The United Kingdom, I wanna be burned on a pyre like Darth Vader in Return of the Jedi because that will ensure maximum c o two emissions, which is what I want my legacy to be.

We'll make sure

you're wearing a prescription.

Extraordinarily vain.

So I've told my both my children, which I'm sure they'll completely ignore, that I want to be buried and I want to have an effigy of me at age 25 on the top lounging like this.

So both of them will ignore it, and they'll probably get me a co op funeral, which costs about $3 and and you know?

But but but I said I will haunt them so they have got that on their backs.

So do what your mother says always.

Alright.

Exactly.

Yeah.

Let's let's move on.

My daughter to do that.

For sure.

Alright.

Let's move away from the macabre and into the ridiculous and the disasters of the electric vehicle disaster update.

We like to visit this topic every few months just to check-in on how it's going badly, and we may not even to report on this after too much longer the way things are going.

But EV disaster update is a friend of mine in the show, writer Buck Rock Morton at Ace of Space HQ calls EVs eternal combust external combustion vehicles, which I think is pretty good way to say it.

That's what EV stands for.

Anyway, this comes from the publication Canadian Manufacturing.

Quebec pulls all 1,200 Lion electric buses off roads after school bus fire.

Schools across Quebec have been forced to cancel bus services after the government pulled all of the roughly 1,200 Lyon electric buses in the province off the roads.

The provincial government said it took the precautionary measure after Lyon electric school bus fire caught I'm sorry.

After a Lyon electric school bus caught fire in Montreal earlier this week.

Several children and a driver were inside the bus when it caught fire, but nobody was injured.

In a joint statement on September 11, education minister Sonia Labelle and transportation minister Jonathan Julienne said a, quote, defect may have caused September fire.

Quote, the preventative, the preventive vehicle inspection operation will take place all weekend to allow normal school transportation to resume as quickly as possible, they said.

If adjustments to the vehicles are necessary, alternatives will be offered to parents for transporting their children to school next week.

Now the story does go on to say or claim, I'll just say it that way, that batteries were not the cause of these fires, and that seems, I don't know, pretty suspicious to me, but let's take their word for it.

Histories, however, says it's only a matter of time until they become external combustion vehicles because of their batteries.

And then there's another story here related to electric vehicles.

This comes from USA Today.

The Ram 1,500 REV has been canceled.

Stellantis shifts energy strategy as EV demand drops.

And let me read a little bit from this.

Ram is pulling the plug on its electrified pickup truck.

Initially called the Ram 1,500 REV, the fully electric pickup was slated for market in 2024.

Then it was delayed until 2025.

Then it was 2026.

Recently, the deadline was moved to 2027, and now the automaker has canceled the whole program the company announced on September 12.

Quote, as demand for full size battery electric trucks slows down in North America, Stellantis is reassessing its product strategy and will discontinue development of a full size BEV pickup, the company said.

Ram now says that the, the nameplate of the now defunct EV pickup will be transferred to what was what was previously known as the Ram charger, a Ram 1,500 on a range extended powertrain, which is slightly different from a full battery powered electric vehicle.

The range extended pickup truck is, the range extended pickup truck is projected to go on sale in 2026.

Now the idea is that Ram, the 1,500 REV, will use power from the battery to power the vehicle forward, and it will drive and feel like an EV.

However, the battery is powered by an internal combustion engine in the truck that runs on gasoline.

So the battery will not have to be plugged in to be charged, although that is an option.

You simply fill up the tank and drive the car.

So, that's not exactly a a hybrid, but an EV powered by an internal combustion engine.

I don't know.

Maybe there's gonna be a market for this.

Sterling, we always go to you first when we get to these crazy stories, but, you know, we were told we were told by very reliable sources that electric vehicles were the future, that the future is here now.

Yeah.

What happened?

So much to say.

The first off, I believe

bucks.

I believe that that school bus fire wasn't due to the electric battery just like I believe that Portugal and Spain's electricity failure last year wasn't due to wind and solar.

In other words, I don't believe it.

The it's interesting.

If it wasn't due to the batteries or to the unique structure of operating a battery powered bus, then why do they pull all the battery powered buses but none of the diesel off the road?

What what's the difference?

Oh, the battery and the battery pack and the electric, electrical system working the batteries.

You know, they've got a problem.

It's not just in The U I mean, it's not just in Canada.

They have found that buses don't complete their routes, stranding children, especially during bad weather, like in the snow in Maine, where you don't want, your bus dying on the side of the road with no heating.

And the problem, you know, the problem is compounded by the fact that Lion and Proterra, another electric bus manufacturer, have now both declared bankruptcy.

Lion had a multiple billion.

I think 4,100,000,000.0 or 1,200,000,000.0.

I forget how many.

In '21, that was its value.

It sold in bankruptcy for less than 100,000,000,000.

They aren't honoring their warranties because a company that's out of business can't, you know, fix things when they're broken.

In The US, we've subsidized hundreds, if not thousands, of these electric buses being, bought.

Many of the diesel buses were trashed, not recycled, because we didn't wanna go back to diesel.

We don't want that option.

So now they have to buy new diesel.

The costs are higher.

The cost of operating are higher.

They don't run as long.

This was, something that you know, this was a a disaster that was you know, I'm not much of a prognosticator, but I predicted this one because it wasn't that hard.

It wasn't that hard.

Look at all the fires.

Look at all the people in danger.

Look at people who aren't even on the vehicles, like the scooters that catch fire in New York and burned down buildings, killing people.

This was something waiting to happen.

It's happened in India.

It's happened in France.

Yeah.

Everywhere EVs have been tried and used, and governments have forced them to be tried and used.

And they're putting children at risk, And it's good they're taking them off the road.

This is an experiment that has not just failed, but it was it it it was easily predicted to have failed in in advance.

As far as Stellantis look.

Look.

That that that, truck that you you described, it's not the first hybrid to operate that way.

Karma, which used to be Fisker, was precisely that.

It was a hybrid electric vehicle.

It had a battery.

It had full battery range for about 30 miles, but then it had an internal combustion engine that charged the battery.

And so it could run, you know, normal

Yeah.

Range.

Strikes sense.

And BMW's I eight is the same thing.

So so Stellantis wasn't they weren't trying to cop out.

They do have batteries.

The batteries run them for a certain amount of thing, but the internal combustion engine charges them.

It's a different kind of hybrid.

It's actually the only kind of low emission vehicle I support because you got the general combustion engine backing you up or providing power.

That's what diesel electric that's what diesel electric motors do.

Right?

It it charges it does it my understanding is that the the the the fact that it generates energy by being a normal ice vehicle charge charges the battery so that it that it can work it can actually be quite good.

You know?

But the, you know, but but the climate change of Penangent would would have us believe that that this was some sort of panacea, you know, that the electric car was gonna save us all, and it was gonna be good and clean.

And and you know what?

All those annoying poor people wouldn't be able to drive.

You know, we don't want them on the road anyway.

We don't really want them making a few quid.

We it much better than at home because we don't need them anyway because we've got AI now.

You know?

So I I I just get the feeling, and it's because of you guys being so amazing on the other side of the pond that that that narrative is not the case now.

It really isn't.

It's not the case.

You know?

The whole net zero, the whole electric vehicle, the whole ice thing, the whole anti fossil fuel, because of what you've done and because Trump is in power, I feel that that's not am I right to feel that?

Am I right to feel that?

Well, you know, unfortunately, you you're right you're both right and wrong.

Okay.

Trump is getting rid of a lot of this stuff.

I mean, he just whacking it.

Daily, we're winning.

Good.

Whacking on

on green energy.

But for some reason, the Trump administration has decided to continue to fund, the net the network of EV chargers that the Biden administration yeah.

It was a surprise to me.

I just found that out.

So we're not gonna build the thousands and thousands, that that Biden had wanted to do, but we're I think we've still on pace.

We're still funding, several 100 new national EV chargers, which I think is, once again, a waste of money that we could've we should've avoided.

I tell you what, even though you guys are doing that, it's one and a half billion trillion times better than what's going on in this country.

I can tell you that for nothing.

And Jim keeps pulling a Jim.

He hasn't figured out that he's on mute.

Oh.

Oh, that's right.

We were gonna do we were gonna do a pulling a Jim jar that we're gonna have out and Yeah.

It's on my to do list.

I'm gonna make one.

It is pulling a gym.

That that's called that's called keeping your mute button on and not noticing.

But I would just add that the the $7,500 tax credit for purchasing EVs, it ends today, September 19, ends in eleven days.

Yep.

So, you know, at least, Lois, that Trump and the rep rep republics got the taxpayers out of the spiraling into the toilet EV business, and the government is apparently out of the EV mandate business.

So Good.

Yeah.

So if you're if you're interested in an EV vehicle, you know, get one while you can, I guess, because the sales of EVs

I've been anywhere from the

list?

Yeah.

Isn't it a bit like being castrated for a man driving an electric car?

I see.

Imagine Now you're gonna get us in trouble.

Now you're gonna get us

in Back me up.

Back me up.

A guy picks you up an electric car, you just say no.

No.

No.

It's not.

I'm not going to work with you, are you?

Well I I'm really busy.

I've suddenly realized that my cat needs to be brushed or something.

Do know what I mean?

Like, you come up with a reason why not to get in the car, won't you?

He's he's probably he's probably got a man bun.

Yeah.

He has a man bun.

And we have a bag.

And then he'd ask you to go halves on the dinner.

100%.

A save the earth sticker, and he wants to take you to the vegan restaurant.

Not happening.

Not happening.

Yeah.

Well, you know, America

am I, aren't I?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Mean, America has a car culture America has a car culture.

Anthony is very familiar with it, man.

Muscle cars and, you know, all of that stuff.

So Yeah.

Maybe maybe women maybe single women can get us out of this mess.

Electric car person.

Should Should be be fair.

You know, the EVs do have the added benefit, I guess, of you don't have to have a lighter or a match to start a bonfire sometimes if you

I suppose it'd be more plausible if they pretended to back break down, wouldn't it, on the way back?

Yeah.

Yeah.

They could just say they've run out of battery.

Yep.

Just just pull over just pull over.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Now that one and and they and they know they're doing about electric vehicles.

They couldn't say, oh, this is just a ploy.

No.

No.

You say, okay.

Alright.

You know, I don't really believe you, but it it it's possible.

It's possible.

Yeah.

Anyway, sorry.

I'm being silly.

Sorry.

No.

It's that's we like to have a lot of fun on this show.

And so,

yeah, you

could just could just pull up you could just pull up to the you could just pull up next to a a a comely young lady and and have unburdened for you blasting from your speakers in your electric car and see how that works out.

Yeah.

And it run it'll run out very quickly with the because if you have the speakers on, apparently, that that winds the battery down.

That's gonna

be a short date.

Alright.

Let's move on to our next, our next item here, which I've titled, we'll never have Paris.

This comes from the New York Times, and this is in the very good news, segment of our crazy climate news of the week.

From New York Times Magazine, it isn't just The US.

The whole world has soured on climate politics.

The day has come, guys.

The day has come.

Their subhead is, how do we think about the climate future now that the era marched by the Paris Agreement has so utterly disappeared?

I'll read a bit from this and, try not to smile too hard and hurt your face.

Ten years ago this fall, scientists and diplomats from a 195 countries gathered in Liberget just north of Paris and hammered out a plan to save the world.

They called it blandly the Paris Agreement.

But it was obviously a climate politics landmark, a nearly universal global pledge to stave off catastrophic temperature rise and secure a more livable future for all.

Heartland Institute, myself included, were there, by the way, during that during those negotiations.

Barack Obama, applauding the agreement as president, declared that Paris represented, quote, the best chance we have to save the one planet we've got, unquote.

Paris wasn't just a brief flare of climate optimism.

To many, it looked like the promise of a whole new era, not just for the climate, but also for our shared political future on this earth.

A decade later, we are living in a very different world.

At last year's UN climate change conference, COP twenty nine, the president of the host country, Azerbaijan's, Eham Elaiev, praised oil and gas as, quote, gifts from god.

And though the annual conferences since Paris were often high profile, star studded affairs, this time there were few world leaders to be found.

Joe Biden, then still president, didn't show.

Neither did vice president Kamala Harris or president Xi Jinping of China or president Ursula von der Land of the European Commission.

Neither did president Emmanuel Macron of France, often seen as the literal face of western liberalism, or president Luis Innacio Lula da Silva of Brazil, often seen as the face of an emergent movement of solidarity across the poor and middle income world.

This year's conference, takes place in Brazil this November, is meant to be more significant.

COP thirty marks ten years since Paris, and all 195 parties to the 2015 agreement are supposed to arrive with updated decarbonization plans called nationally determined contributions or NDCs.

But when one formal deadline passed this February, only 15 countries, just 8%, had completed the assignment.

Months later, more plans have trickled in, but arguably only one is actually compatible with the goals of the Paris agreement.

I'm almost done, guys, but I'm enjoying this.

Everywhere you look, the spike of climate alarm that followed Paris has given way to something its supporters might describe as climate moderation, but which critics would call complacency or indifference.

Quote, you can't walk more than two feet at any global conference today without pragmatism and realism being thrown around as the order of the day, says Jason Bordoff, a former Obama energy adviser who now runs Columbia University Center on Global Energy Policy.

But, quote, it's not clear to me that anyone knows what those words mean other than this whole climate thing is just too hard.

And I will end it there.

I can't take my excitement anymore.

I don't know how more dramatically I could read this, but I did enjoy it.

Linea, you know, I'm gonna start with you because after all, all of these all of these jet setting global leaders are trying to save the planet for you and for your generation and the ones that come after you, And they have failed you.

Do you need do we need to fund some counseling for your grief?

Do you need a safe space?

What's your reaction?

Well, you know what?

They have failed my generation and younger, and that's by inflicting us with climate anxiety that's completely unnecessary.

Totally.

Right?

So, yeah, we have been we have been afflicted by climate change, and it's because of the media and it's because of our politicians who don't understand the science and don't don't intend on looking into it any deeper than they already have, which is to say not at all other than, you know, taking whatever it is that their assistance hand to them.

But I yeah.

The Paris Agreement has been a joke since the beginning.

One of our commenters pointed out that Stassel had a funny video about it showing all of the countries and their promises, and it's all just like the West is just being fleeced is basically what's going on with Paris.

And it and it reminds me of every single time people talk glowingly about how green China is.

And it just it takes an unbelievable amount of I don't even know.

Just

Cognitive dissonance.

Yeah.

You're you're you're just ignoring all of the evidence because what double thing.

Brags about how many wind turbine elements and how many solar panels they produce.

Like, meanwhile, they're just paving over half of their half of their land and building tons of new coal and everything at the same time.

They say that they do not anticipate whatsoever in decreasing the amount of coal they use.

In fact, that they have they have told other countries that they plan on increasing how much coal they use over the next couple of years.

It's you have to live in a completely different world to believe any of this stuff.

Yeah.

China's expanding coal imports right now, and it's it's having ripples on the world coal price market.

China alone

They're using so much.

Yeah.

Yeah.

They're and they're importing so much.

It's not because they can't produce enough domestically.

You're joking.

Really?

I should know that.

Sorry, James.

We're having to import it.

And and and that of course, the importation is emissions, and and that's affecting world coal prices.

So, you know, I wrote climate I've been writing climate change weekly for a while now, and Paris is 2015.

And if you read, you know, you have to go back to the archives, but you read the two or three climate change weeklies I wrote after Paris.

And I pointed out that they knew that that that to some extent, the Times article is premised on a lie.

Paris was never even by their own lights, their own standards, Paris was never going to save the Earth, and they knew it at the time.

The people, James Hansen said so.

This is a fake agreement.

It it has no teeth.

Why?

The standards, all voluntary.

Every country had to set its own emissions reductions goals.

The the general goal was under two degrees, but as close as possible to below 1.5 degrees.

We were already locked in to surpass that.

And the the nothing in the agreement, it it is what Hobbs said.

Covenant without the sword is but words.

There was no penalty for not hitting any of your targets other than the next year's climate conference.

They'd say, bad, bad, naughty, naughty.

You're you're a you're a naughty child for not eating your peas, not hitting your goals.

And they knew it at the time.

What I'm saying is it was never going to save the earth.

When they signed the agreement, they had the big conference.

They had the big press release, but they knew at the time that this was not going to do what they said.

And now for them to be moan to be bemoaning ten years later, oh my gosh.

We're not meeting the goals that we're gonna save the earth when they knew they wouldn't save the earth at the time is just it's kabuki theater.

Absolutely.

Totally agree.

Jim.

Jim You're

on mute.

Man, that's

too You're paying you're paying big time this time, Jim.

That's too.

I'm gonna go broke.

We have to we have to we have to end the stream earlier.

I'm gonna go broke.

Is Jim, Jim, do do you know what the history of the two fingers up with the nails facing front?

I do.

I do.

I'm sorry.

Know.

You're

supposed to

sit now.

I was gonna say, alright.

Great.

Whatever.

You're too clever.

Two.

Rock on.

Don't know.

Do you know what this one is?

I do know what that one is.

Yes.

It's about the arches.

You know that.

Okay.

Yes.

I do.

I I apologize.

We do have a lot of, a lot of viewers from The UK, and and we have a

guest from UK.

No.

No.

Sorry.

I thought I was being interesting.

I clearly not quite interesting enough.

I

know how to I know how to I don't know very I I can't speak any languages fluently, but I can swear at about ten.

So Okay.

That's all you need.

That's all you need in most countries, really.

Alright.

Anthony, want any add anything to the discussion about Paris?

I mean, you know, to me, it's just the despair.

I I hear this.

I hear the pain in the voices.

You can it bleeds off the page digitally in places like The New York Times, and I don't know.

Maybe I'm a bad person, but it makes me happy.

You're not a bad person, Jim.

We're all thinking the same thing.

But, you know, the whole climates the whole Paris climate agreement was just simply a number pulled out of thin air.

This is what we think we can convince people to agree to.

That's all it was.

There's no science behind it.

And the bottom line is is that we have already reached 1.5 degrees centigrade of temperature rise.

You know?

If you go back and you look, at older records, you know, back to about 1850, you will see that we've not only reached but exceeded that amount, and the world did not collapse.

You know?

Death and destruction did not rain from the skies.

And, you know, it's just I don't have any other word for the Paris Climate Agreement except it was bullshit.

I'm sorry.

That's all it is.

Is that a technical term?

Yes.

That's scientifically precise term.

Thank you so much.

Well okay.

Okay.

The technical term is

defecus maximus.

Well, now now

It sounds like a dinosaur in Jurassic Park.

Well, now now we know Anthony knows how to knows how to state profanity in two languages, English and Latin.

So that's great.

That's yeah.

That is it's extraordinarily impressive.

I I would just point out that since Paris, I believe we've had the last three conferences in petro states.

Yes.

The Azerbaijan where they praised it.

Right?

The one before that was, I believe, somewhere in The Middle East.

I forget whether it's Oman or or The UAE.

It was the the one before that, it was the one before that.

And now they're going to Brazil, which is a petrol state as well.

It's the largest or second largest producer of oil in South America.

They are not giving up their oil contrary to their green credentials.

They're increasing their output.

Oh my god.

Who would have thunk it?

Yeah.

Who would have thunk it?

And to hold this conference, rather than, you know, say what you will about Paris.

Say what you will about the the, you know, the The UAE where they held the conference.

They held them in major cities.

Right?

In in places that you could get to.

They didn't have to destroy entire countrysides to hold a conference, on climate change.

In Brazil, we're hosting it now.

They are they are mowing down thousands, if not tens of thousands of acres of the Amazon that they say are the lungs of the world to make roads to ship people from major destinations to the destination.

They don't have the hotels for people.

It's gonna be one of the smallest attended, I suspect, cop conferences, which, you know, by their light, should be good for the planet.

But what's can't be good for the planet is all the destruction they're wreaking because they coulda held it in Sao Paulo or they coulda held it in god.

I'm getting old.

Brazil's largest city.

Rio De Janeiro.

In Rio.

Yeah.

Rio De Janeiro.

But the thing is, though, they're all busy because they're all with Greta on on a flotilla towards Israel.

You know?

Like, they they they found another cause.

So may maybe maybe they'll let us, you know, maybe they'll leave us be.

Who knows?

Yeah.

By the way, I didn't see any sails on that boat of the flotilla for

No.

But you know what?

The funny thing is Israel was so so clever.

What they did is they said, yeah.

You can come in.

That's not a problem, but you will be going into a military prison.

Suddenly, there was massive climate change, and, and and there was a freak storm, and they had to turn around.

I mean, how extraordinary that that that they had this storm that meant that they couldn't go to Israel when they've been told they were gonna be put in military prison.

The the storm that nobody in the meteorological community could find.

Literally

nobody else knew about.

You know?

Well, I I you know, good I'm happy for them.

I don't I I don't wanna see Greta in in a military prison, or or maybe I do.

I don't know.

Well, you know, she could she

could pay a £100,000,000 to see her in prison,

wouldn't you?

It's so

fun.

They could turn the flotilla around, hope towards the Amazon and try and go up the Amazon to the conference and perhaps not be, you know, taken over by tribal peoples.

Maybe she could charge her phone by plugging it into a tree and see how that works out for her.

Right?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Well, you know, as the song goes, clowns to the left of me and jokers to the right.

That Yeah.

Here I am

stuck in the

middle of you.

Well, I'm glad that I was stuck in the middle with you guys.

You're fabulous.

That's

great.

Alright.

Let's get on to our main story today and, the big reason why we have, the wonderful Lois Perry on the program today that we're so fortunate, to have today, and that is, how climate realism is heating up in The United Kingdom.

And this story, comes from Politico, the Trump aligned climate skeptics advising Britain's Nigel Farage.

So, buckle up, Lois.

This one is about you and even I

know I know all all these credible sources writing about me.

I mean, you know, thank you.

Great.

Great.

Let's let's read a little bit.

Let's read quite a bit actually from this because I think it's important to cover all of this information here.

And so Politico, which is a left wing garbage publication here in The United States, Right.

Nigel Farage's reform party is being advised by a think tank which denies the science of climate change and claims the UK government wants to use electric vehicles to control its citizens.

Hey.

We just mentioned electric vehicles.

Lois Perry, UK And Europe director of the Heartland Institute think tank, told attendees at reforms annual conference last week that she was, quote, very grateful to be able to consult and influence the reform reform party at the highest level, unquote.

The Heartland Institute confirmed to Politico this week that it has held conversations with policymakers within Reform UK.

The institute, which is closely aligned with US president Donald Trump's anti climate policies anti climate policies.

I don't even know what that means.

Has cast doubt on global warming and branded climate change policies a hoax and a scam.

Earlier this year, the defense it, meaning Hartland, backed Trump's decision to pull out of the UN Paris climate agreement and to roll back Joe Biden era clean energy products, projects.

The organization was invited to an event at the White House Rose Garden when Trump announced plans to pull The US out of Paris during his first term in 2017.

Quote, the reality is this, we're not facing a climate crisis.

The organization's president James Taylor told a Heartland sponsored fringe event at Reform Party's conference in

Birmingham on Saturday.

On the main stage.

Sorry to to be a pedant, but we we were actually the the main, like, we the main panel event on the main stage.

Just just yeah.

Okay.

Oh, yeah.

You're gonna you can explain all that here very shortly.

Okay.

Okay.

Alright.

The the reality is this, said, James Taylor.

We are not facing a climate crisis.

Speaking at the same conference fringe event, they did it twice, Lois.

Perry, a former leader of UKIP, said, quote, there's nothing wrong with c o two.

C o two is not a pollutant.

They're just quoting you there, Lois.

She said that government net zero policies are, quote, bad for the environment and have been induced, quote, to control us.

It's to tax us, is to take our money, and is to take our liberty.

Harry added, they want us in electric cars.

Electric cars can be remotely controlled.

Again, not a conspiracy theory.

These cars can be shut down.

Imagine during COVID.

Imagine your car is disabled remotely.

You have no control over it because it's an electric car, and that's if you can afford an electric car.

There's a reason why this neo Marxist communist shambolic government wants us in electric cars.

It is so that

we have no freedom whatsoever.

Lois, congratulations.

That was

a fantastic quote.

Congratulations on the event.

Ever let Nigel Frasch give me three glasses of champagne at breakfast again.

So

Well, actually was great.

I should.

I I, yeah, I I didn't hold back.

I apologize if it was a little bit too much.

Not for me.

But but, yeah, I mean, I just wanted to communicate.

I mean, we had a huge audience, Jim.

I mean, it was huge.

Had, like we had seating for 400 people, but there were a 100 people that wanted to come in.

So James will tell you this.

James Taylor, obviously, of Heart and Industry main in America Heart and Industry.

There were people coming all around.

We had people standing.

We had people push trying to push through.

It was extraordinary.

And what I really got from that event, especially with the q and a's, is that people said, we believe you.

We totally get what you're saying.

We know this is a scam, but give us the tools.

Give us the tools to fight back because they're gonna come at us with all this stuff and give us the tools.

And James told them about the tools that you that that we have and that heart Heartland USA have, to to counter all the arguments.

I don't know I don't know the exact link, but, Jim, if maybe you could share it, where where people are it has all the answers to all the most commonly asked questions, like polar bears, climate change, freak events.

And people were writing it down.

They were scribbling it down on their notepads.

They were really into it.

It was in the it was it was actually and I don't say this lightly.

It's actually quite beautiful.

It really was.

I loved it.

I loved it.

Climate@aglance.com.

That's it.

Thank you.

And we're about and we're about to have, an updated second edition out, this next week, which people can, can order off him.

Oh, Jim's saying something here.

Oh, sorry.

If he's not No.

I I I was gonna say second edition, but I didn't wanna offend anybody.

So I'll do it this way.

Second edition.

Yes.

Second edition.

It's updated.

It has some new material, but it also has updated material from the last edition And

Love it.

Of course.

Amazon.

And there's an app, isn't there?

And and they and, you know, we got an app.

Yeah.

They get on their app.

They can go to our website.

A lot of ways to access it, but that's got the factual detailed information.

In addition, if they you know, if you're like me, you wake up in the morning and you go through some headlines, and almost every day, you find a climate headline.

And every day at climaterealism.com, we respond to those those climate headlines, debunking them.

But I'd just like to say I'd just like to say as well, from from Nigel Farage that people keep trying to catch him out by saying that he's working with us.

Yeah?

And and he's proud to work with us.

So no one's catching him out.

He he is he thinks that we're fab.

Right?

So, you know, all these journalists trying to say, oh my goodness.

You work with them and you work and he's like, and?

And?

So so, you know, I just wanted I just wanted to tell you guys and your viewers that he's proud he's proud to be you know, he will he will never say, I agree 100% with any particular group.

He's not when people say, oh, how can you work with them?

He says, of course, I work with them, or of course, I listen to them.

It's hard to call Nigel and reform fringe when they are soon possibly to be the second or

first No.

They were calling our event fringe.

They were trying to be a bit yeah.

But but we but there was one conference, there was obviously two big hangers.

It was huge, actually.

And we, you, me, us, we were the biggest, biggest panel discussion at the whole event.

People were queuing up to come into our event.

So there you go.

Well, yeah, Lois, I was gonna ask you.

I mean, we we we mentioned when we hoped to have you last week, and I'm glad so glad to have you this week.

But

we I'm so sorry about that, Lois.

No.

There's I told you at the time, there's no need to apologize.

I know.

I know.

It's completely understandable.

But we had gone over a poll that we saw in the in the British press about how, you know, British citizens are becoming they're growing more skeptical of climate alarmism.

That the that the I I think a 50% increase in attitudes like net zero is is a loser, that the the the threat of human caused climate change is grossly exaggerated.

All these things, all these data points that the British people are coming closer to our side and your side of the issue.

And then I saw I had it in the show notes, but didn't put it up on the screen.

But one of the MPs from the Tories has decided to leave that the concert the concert party

and move over to reform UK.

Yeah.

So so give us a better sense of I mean, are we winning, or is this or is this school's goal?

Oh my goodness.

We are winning.

We are winning.

So because of us, because of Heartland USA, because of Heartland UK Europe, the the party that is polling consistently consistently in the last 101 polls so it's not it's not a fluke.

It's not a reaction.

It's not a protest vote.

The party that is polling consistently, not only ahead of the other parties, but today, 34%.

When the other two major main parties were on 16% each, so 32%, obviously, were below combined.

That party has said, day one day one in government, they're abolishing all net zero policies.

We're winning.

We are winning.

And thank you very much for being able to continue your work in The UK and Europe.

So in in November and and, Jim, I I really hope that you can join us, all of you.

We are doing an event in Poland, which will combine, Italy, Romania, France, all of the all of the big European countries to to to really, really challenge the whole net zero concept in terms of specifically for agriculture.

And I hope to get certain person to come.

If I can't, I can't.

If I can, I can?

But but it will be a big, big, big event because, yes, we are winning The UK.

Let let's now next, let's do Europe.

Let's heart let's heartland Europe together.

Correct me if I'm wrong, Lois, but didn't Labour's m the MP I mean, not the MP, the prime minister recently have to slap down Ed Miliband some of Ed Miliband's climate plans as being too radical?

What?

Yes.

They they they didn't get

rid them, they tempered them.

Am I wrong about that?

Well, apparently, Kirstjarma, he of the Ukrainian, young men Sorry.

Right.

So Keir Starmer wanted to fire Ed Miliband, and Ed Miliband refused to go, which is a testament to the weakness of his position.

I personally think that there'll be a challenge to his leadership within three to six months.

And it look.

I can say this because Nigel said this.

We are semi preparing for a general election in 2027.

So, hopefully hopefully, things will things will be normal, and like you guys, before too long, hopefully.

That would be fantastic.

I've not actually, I've not heard of I was, you know, six months ago, I was optimistic that that may happen, and then I've been more pessimistic over the last several months.

So Well, no.

Just at conference, Jim.

He said '20 wait.

The the way you are tentatively preparing for 2027.

That's great.

Well, I mean, you've done amazing work at Heartland UK.

You can make up I mean, you've only we've only that that organization's only been stood up for about ten months, and, you know, we you're already

being attacked.

Because you and James believe believe that, you know, that it was worth the pun, and I wanna thank you for that.

Thank you.

Oh, well, your your success there is worth every every minute of time, you know, that we've dedicated and and to help stand that up over there.

And, you know, you know you're doing well when you're being attacked by all the right people.

I love it.

I love it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Bring it on.

Bring it on.

That's great.

And, I just wanna before we get into the q and a, I also just wanted to, mention that, you can find, Lois The Lois Perry Show.

It streams on X.

It streams on YouTube.

Is it on Rumble as well yet, or are you gonna move move there soon?

But it's very easy to find

We need Rumble.

We need to Rumble.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And so you had Lord Christopher Moncton on two months ago, so that was nice.

I enjoyed that show.

So definitely just search for the Lois Perry show on X or on YouTube and check out work.

UK, Europe, you X every Wednesday, seven to 8PM for for various reasons that that you understand I won't go into now, but you know it wasn't a show on the Wednesday just gone, but there's gonna be a massive show next week.

So it's all good.

All good.

Fantastic.

Yeah.

Alright.

Well, before we get into into the q and a, and, again, congratulations, Lois, and continued success, and and we hope to have you on this show quite often to talk about that success.

I love being on your show.

Because we love having you.

So alright.

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With that, we get to our oh, every part of the show is our favorite.

It's the q and a section.

Lanea, please take it away.

Yay.

Alright.

Thank you very much.

Okay.

So we have a bunch of questions here.

I'm going to start with one for Lois, and that is from fighting Zenithian.

It says, Lois, have you considered talking with Lewis of TIK history?

He has done great videos on World War two and debunked the privatization myth that leftists have perpetuated.

Right.

So, no.

The the answer is I haven't.

But, if he wanted to get in touch with me and I'm not entirely sure what what that actually means, the privatization myth that left itself perpetuated.

But if if he would like to, maybe Jim could send forward an email, and and I can deal directly with that.

Yeah.

Okay.

The answer is no.

But but I'm happy to look at it.

No problem.

Alright.

Our frequent viewer engineer guy asks, who saw Steve Molloy's post on LinkedIn regarding the Arctic sea ice?

Yeah.

What was that about, guys?

Because I didn't see it.

Oh, go ahead.

Did you see it, Anthony?

Yeah.

I did.

And now my brain has gone blank.

Are you sure you have a bad cough?

Rain free from our side.

Imagine.

I think it had to do with the Arctic sea ice not Yes.

Not, you know, not having gone down since two thousand twelve, thirteen years, and billions of tons of c o two ago, that, the c the sea ice levels were higher this year than last year.

Right.

But they've hovered about the same.

Yeah.

He tweeted that too.

He did tweet that too.

Yeah.

So, yeah, the idea of, like, you know, that the the Arctic sea ice is not cooperating with the alarmist because it's not melting.

Sorry, guys.

We still don't have we still don't have a Northwest Passage from what what that they dreamed of from England to to Russia without going around, you know, either the North or south, you know, the Cape Of Good Hope or, you know, Straits Of Magellan.

They can't cross the Arctic to get there.

Alright.

Our good friend Stan Goldenberg says, who so did president Trump help push king Charles towards climate realism, Lois?

Well, I I I've been in a pretty tricky predicament recently because I'm an ardent monarchist and I haven't got it on at the moment.

But I've got a massive neon in my quite old fashioned living room.

It's it's 250 years old.

But I've got a massive neon saying, god save the queen.

And so it's been it's been pretty tricky for me.

I I don't like to criticize our king.

It's more about the institution of the king, as opposed to to a personal in to an individual.

But he has benefited, and you can't you can't shy away from this from extraordinarily extraordinary public subsidies to offshore wind.

Hundreds and hundreds of millions of pounds every year to the duchy when he was prince of Wales, and now that that that continues.

So there's no way he could be perceived as impartial.

However, however, there's a couple of things recently that that has given me hope.

There's a couple of bills that went through parliament.

One of them and I'm not casting any opinion for on behalf of the Heartland here at all.

But there was a particular bill that went through to do with abortion, and there was a particular bill that went through to do with the assisted suicide.

And he had his his PR guy put a statement out that said that he was uncomfortable with signing these bills.

Yeah?

Which made me think, okay.

There there is a traditional king in there.

There is there is a heart.

So okay.

So so my answer to that question is, yes.

I do believe that Trump would have an influence.

Monarchies have to adapt to survive.

Maybe they previously thought they they had to adapt to climate, to net zero, and globalism, and all of that jazz.

Maybe now they're feeling that they need to pull it back.

I'm not gonna I'm not gonna I quite like to be a dame one day, and I quite like my son to be knighted.

So and this and what a pussy I am, So I'm not gonna criticize my monarchy any more than that, but I will say that we are pragmatic.

And and my answer as a English person is yes.

I think king I think Trump did make it would have had an influence on my king.

Well, I I I'm I'm glad to hear you say that.

But when he was a before he was the king, he was a prince.

That's right.

Prince And he did make some he did make some claims when he was a prince.

Like, in 02/2009, we have ninety six months left to save the earth.

But can I can I just say something to you?

My my personal situation as as an English person, you you are a citizen.

I am a subject.

Okay?

Right?

I can have opinions about my king, but I'm not gonna criticize my king.

Right.

Even if I agree with every word you say.

Now if that makes me a sellout and if that makes me, you know, not a good person, then then then judge me accordingly.

But I can't criticize my king even if I agree with every single word you say.

Can you forgive can you forgive me for that?

I'm not asking you to to to agree or disagree with me.

I'm just saying, as a matter of fact, he made a prediction.

No.

I get it.

He's he's not a climate scientist.

He's not a climate researcher.

He is above the pay grade of everyone, and I suspect he hasn't spent decades studying the issue.

And he made a prediction of ninety six months.

Ninety six months has come and gone years ago, and we're still here.

And we haven't solved the climate crisis, which is what he said was necessary to save us.

So I'm not sure, king or not, on this side of the pond and maybe anywhere else

threw us out.

That's why.

You know, how

If guys if you guys keep arguing, I'm gonna have

to play this in.

Insult to injury.

You have a bloody dinner about it to celebrate it every year.

I mean, what?

I mean and I've been invited to one.

A very, very good friend of mine, Gary and Robin Monde, they've invited me to their Thanksgiving dinner.

So I said, hang on a minute.

So you were inviting me to a dinner to celebrate the fact that you hate our guts, and they said yes.

I said, oh, okay.

Well, now now the Thanksgiving the Thanksgiving celebration is not about getting away from England.

That was a hundred more than a hundred years before.

Oh, okay.

Alright.

Right.

That shows me how ignorant I am.

Sorry.

The thanks Thanksgiving was the pilgrims in May, though.

Surviving.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Don't yeah.

Don't try to don't try to take too much credit for it, Lois, because because saying, you hate my guts.

Now pass the mashed potatoes.

That's a very American thing.

Oh, I'm sounding ever so ignorant.

I'm actually gonna stop speaking now.

No.

Okay.

Alright.

We're gonna shift.

We're gonna find a a science question if I can find one here, if we have any good ones.

Oh, I do wanna highlight this comment that was post to the chat that I really appreciated here from Jacob who said, I love looking up information on climate realism.

Every time I see a climate alarmist headline, I look on climate realism website on the climate realism website to see the facts.

Thank you so much, Jacob.

We love that.

Alright.

Let's see.

Oh, DJ Bo asks, any news about the new five star resort they'll be building for the next climate conference?

Can't make it up, can you?

Can you make it up?

Yeah.

I'm sure it'll be, it'll be net zero.

The construction and the concrete and the the the diesel fuel to run the machinery, that won't Yeah.

Net net benefit for the local economy.

Alright.

Dolores asks, any news on nonlithium alternative electric batteries that have been reported in production?

They are claimed to not have the fire problem.

There's a lot of alternative alternatives to lithium.

A lot of those alternatives, though, are mass from what I understand are very much constrained by weight.

A lot of them weigh quite a bit more than the lithium ion, which is saying something.

You know, most cars a while ago, I think they still are mostly lead acid batteries, which are different too.

So there's a lot of different types of batteries.

It's just it depends.

Ian McMillan says that he has a his Prius has a nickel based battery.

So, yeah, there's a lot of different batteries.

It's just the the lithium ion ones, at this point, have the energy density to weight ratio that's best for electric cars.

And,

of course, the particles that are released from the from the weight of the car being so much heavier are are so much more dangerous to health than any perceived or fabricated danger from c o two emissions.

You know, the actual particles from the tires from the heavier cars, it's that the whole thing is topsy-turvy.

I mean, Lewis Carroll wouldn't have even been able to imagine such a topsy-turvy Alice in Wonderland world.

He really wouldn't.

Yeah.

So who knows?

I mean, we might have better, you know, mass produced batteries in time, but it's that time is not right now.

Well, they're they're developing sorts of all sorts of, new battery technologies.

Iron.

What is it?

Iron something.

They're all of them supposed to be less prone to fire and, you know, work better.

But once again, they're in development, it might take years.

They might never come to fruition.

Alright.

Now we have this question from tech who asks, do we even know the impact of the on the climate of cremation?

Anthony, do we know?

Well, honestly, I don't, but I'm sure whatever the figures are, they're dead on.

That's worse than one of mine.

That is a proper dad joke.

That's what we call in England, a dad joke.

Give us that one.

Alright.

So we also got a question from a viewer in email, which I can pull up from the back chat here.

But

I I have it in front of me if you want me to read it.

Sure.

You can.

Read it out.

Yeah.

So okay.

So, yeah, this comes from one of our viewers.

So, you know, he emailed us at the Heartland Institute.

He says he's a independent political economist and scientist, and he's been working on climate change issues for for a year for a few years now, really looking at the work of guys like doctor Roy Spencer and other people that we work with at the Heartland Institute.

And his question is this.

It's kind of a technical question, but, hey.

You reach out with a good question.

We're gonna try to answer it, and we'll do it on the air.

So he says here, John Tindle made the first experiments with c o two using a pipe filled with c o two that was placed horizontal to the ground, then, Svante Arrhenius, I'm sorry if I get that wrong, used moonlight measurements with the moon at very low angles to Earth's surface in order to estimate c o two's absorptive properties in Earth's atmosphere.

Given that these two forms of measurement by Tyndall and Arrhenius would grossly overestimate c o two's heat absorbing properties, given these measurements are made horizontal to the Earth's surface and therefore they eliminate the force of Earth's gravity, which is the most powerful force in the convection of heat.

Is this then the point of original scientific mistake that has even been made by Tyndall and Arrhenius that has originally misled all of the overestimates of c o two's temperature heating properties today and even in today's climate models.

And then he finishes up here saying, it is always very helpful to pinpoint the specific scientific mistakes that are made that led to scientific scientific misinformation and therefore waste in order to correct them.

If I am right, hopefully, this this can help with the coming litigations concerning the endangerment finding.

Now when I got I got that email actually personally to my email account.

I forwarded it to our climate team, that climate team being Anthony, Sterling, and Linea.

So, Anthony, I think you jumped in with some answers if you wanna address that.

Right.

I did respond to that email in detail, and so I'm gonna paraphrase some of the response, and I wrote back that you're right to question whether nineteenth century experiments by Tyndall and Hirenius could possibly provide the basis for today's numbers.

And the answer is they can't.

Those measurements back then were relatively crude, and so they were really not much better than estimates.

But the the fact is is that those are not being used in the models and calculations done today.

Those, the measurements that are used about c o two came from, modern spectra spectroscopy, lab measurements, and satellite measurements.

But even though we've got far better measurements today, there's still a great deal of uncertainty in the whole climate calculation process.

For example, since 1990, c o two has been calculated to add about one watt per square meter of forcing, and a doubling of c o two is supposed to add about four watts per square meters.

But those are all theoretical numbers and not direct measurements of Earth's climate system.

They come from computer models.

And so they're only as good as their assumptions.

And that's where the problem began.

We put too many assumptions into climate models.

And then when the output comes out, people that don't know any better latch on to that, like, you know, the infamous RCP 8.5 that the media love to tap, you know, where they showed this hellish hot future, which is totally impossible that there's not enough fossil fuel on the planet available to make the RCP 8.5 scenario turn out.

So we got these people chasing after these phantoms that have been created, you know, in the climate models.

So, you know, the real issue is that modern climate science leads have leans heavily on models and assumptions that have known flaws and uncertainties while ignoring or minimizing biases in measurements like UHI or microsite citing issues that make the problem look worse than it is in the measurements that we have.

So that's why the question was important.

The real mistake isn't from the nineteenth century.

It's how today's climate establishment treats speculative model outputs as if they were hard facts.

Yep.

Thank you so much.

That was great.

We love the science questions on this on this channel.

Alrighty.

Yeah.

To be fair to be fair to, didn't have the equipment to do what we do today.

Even the equipment we do what we do today isn't necessarily accurate because it's built on, as you say, it's it's the outputs from climate models.

But at the time that he wrote, he retracted one paper, and what he was pretty consistent on was that warming would be a benefit.

He thought that the increase in c o two in the atmosphere from from power plants, we didn't have the cars then, would benefit us by greening the planet and doing crop production.

And in that, he was a 100% correct.

He was.

Yeah.

One you know, and and two, we don't wanna be you don't wanna be too hard on the guys who are, you know, kind of paving the way and not getting it quite right right away.

You know?

I mean, as we were working with what they had, and they were doing some pretty darn good work with it.

So

Yeah.

And as a lay as a layman, I guess the science wasn't settled in the nineteenth century just like it is settled in the twenty first.

Said so.

Yeah.

Newton Newton was a pretty smart guy even though we don't use Newtonian physics anymore.

There we go.

It was

not in everything.

Yeah.

So says, has anyone tried to quantify the c o two emissions from the Ukraine war?

Well, no.

Of course, they haven't because the Ukraine war is a woke thing.

So so so therefore, there won't be any analysis whatsoever about anything negative to do with it.

And that doesn't mean that I'm coming down in favor of anybody anybody on either side, but there's certainly vested interests, on on the left side, hasn't there been with with the whole, ecosystem created by the war or or economic system, I should say.

Well, remember, when the war at the outset of the war, John Kerry said, let's not forget about the dangers of climate change and how the war

John Kerry can do one, honestly.

Does that does anyone does anyone take any notice of anything he says anymore?

And and I tell you something.

Right?

And I don't wish to be ageist.

He needs to stop wearing jeans.

There is a point, and I said this to my own father, Right?

He thinks that he's cool as anything in the entire planet.

Right?

Yeah.

I'd I'd rather he wear jeans

No more denim.

No more denim.

I'd rather he wear denim than

spandex.

So

Oh.

That's a shark world that you just that you just planted and everybody's

involved in him, but John Kerry is is not doing it for me.

It really isn't.

Okay.

So Chris Nisbet asks, can Nigel start discussions with fossil fuel generation companies even before reform gets into power to reduce lead time a little?

Big lead time for gas turbines, apparently.

Oh, I've gotta be extremely careful here.

All I can say is that there's no flies on mister Farage, and any discussions that he feels would benefit The UK immediately immediately on day one, which could be as soon as 2027 of his premiership, he would be having.

But I I would be if I confirmed any any such meetings.

Was that How dare you?

Okay.

An engineer guy says, any comments for Lois, on Trump's visit to The UK?

Oh, we loved having Trump over.

It was quite interesting because there were certain aspects of the media that tried to paint it a certain way.

It's so funny because literally the wokeest TV channel in England did, ITV, did, did a poll on their their channel, good, on their program, their flagship morning program called Good Morning Britain.

And it was the the question was, do you support Trump's visit to The UK?

Obviously, they were expecting a different result.

I think it was around 78% said yes.

So that slightly backfired.

So we were delighted to have him over here, and, you know, we love you guys.

We we really do.

They show

the protesters.

Thank you for giving us Trump.

They show the protesters and not the people cheering.

No.

The the vast majority of ordinary oh, sorry.

Ordinary normal British people are chuffed to bits, with Trump and and common sense prevailing generally.

So thank you.

I like that phrase, chuffed to bits.

We are.

Is that oh, is that an English thing?

I didn't even know that.

Said it.

Alright.

Okay.

We are yeah.

We're chuffed to bits.

Definitely English.

Alright.

So from a rumble viewer, CCM five nine one says an article the article in Politico says climate change beyond scientific dispute, National Academy's report says.

Has anyone had a chance to review the whole National Academy's report?

Maybe that'll be a topic for a future show.

I haven't I haven't reviewed the entire report.

What I do know is, because I was asked about it and I looked into it.

So you have to look at the report.

It was never gonna be an honest assessment from the start of climate change.

It doesn't address the causes, or the question.

It doesn't address the question of is climate change happening, and if so, what's the cause?

There, they didn't it wasn't run by any physicist.

It was run by a microbiologist.

And so rather than sort of a response to the report the DOE put out, which was sort of comprehensive, it was it focused on what the what the people supposedly knew so much about, which was biology and the impacts on, on humans of warming world or worsening worsening weather because that's microbiologists.

There were, people in public health authorities.

Nobody that knew anything about real climate change, but people that knew, their discipline where they were getting funding from agencies, from from the federal government for think tanks that have to do with public health and climate change.

Mhmm.

If climate change goes away, their funding goes away.

Of course it does.

So they, that's the report.

Now just last Thursday, a week from yesterday, was when they were gonna finalize the members of the committee.

They put out a provisional committee list.

They asked for public comments.

I provided public comments among thousands of others suggesting who they should get on the committee.

So less than a week less than a week, five days, after they supposedly received all the comments and made decisions, they produced a big report.

Now does anyone think it turns out they'd met five times despite the fact that we're in an official committee yet.

They'd met five times privately.

But does anyone think that, the the 12 or 15 members of this committee wrote that report

No.

In five days, had it edited and reviewed and produced in five days, or do you think that maybe it was in the bag, they had the report already, and it was just a matter of them putting their little signatures probably by Autopen on it.

AutoPen.

Yeah.

Lois, I think that your jeans comment was the most controversial thing.

It depends on the man.

It depends on the man.

It's nothing to do with age.

Nothing to do with age.

Alright.

We have this this very, you know, straightforward question from Kite Man Music.

He says, what

are you

doing the show?

It's I've got loads of enemies now.

I think I might be an admirer.

Yeah.

This this is Kite Man who says, what are you doing after the show?

Oh my goodness.

I'm going to bed with the with with the hot chocolate.

That was awesome.

But thank you.

And we

Maybe one more?

We can that we can leave it off on, which is Lois, At what age, what must superannuated men cease their ridiculous jean wearing behavior and behavior

It depends on the man.

It depends on the man.

And and all I can say is there's 80 year olds that rock jeans, and then there's John Kerry that really doesn't.

There's nothing to it it's all about attitude.

Alrighty.

Maybe there needs to be a ministry formed in The UK on that.

But having said that, if, if Nyaj tells me he's gonna buy a pair of jeans, I'll be, you know, advising him very delicately.

That's not such a good show.

Very good.

Alright.

Well, thank you.

Thank you very much, Lynne, for taking us through q and a.

That was that was great.

I know we didn't get to get to every single question in the in the chat today, but we do our best to get to as many as we can.

I want to thank Lois Perry, the director of Hartland UK Europe for being our very special

guest today,

and we will have you back on again.

I know the the chat and the audience really enjoy it.

And we here on the show, we actually we enjoy it very much as well.

I'm sorry.

I I lowered the tone.

I apologize.

I I I I I I think I'm funny.

I I laugh at my jokes even if nobody else does.

Wow.

We do laugh at your jokes.

We do like to have a good time here, and you definitely to that.

So thank

you.

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