In this week’s bonus episode, domestic abuse campaigner and author David Challen shares the 5 things he is grateful for. In what turns out to be one of John’s favourite ever gratitude lists, David expresses his love for his bike and the film ‘You’ve Got Mail’.

Head to the main episode to hear about how David fought to get his mother released from prison after she’d killed his father. He explains what men can do to combat violence against women.

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