What's the heart of this video about?

What's the real value that somebody is gonna get?

Are they watching it for entertainment?

Do they wanna know the details?

What?

How am I positioning this video?

So you start with your subject and then you figure out how the video is gonna be positioned.

Hello and welcome to this week's episode of the YouTube Creators Hub podcast.

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All right guys.

Welcome to this week's conversation on the Creator Hub Podcast.

I am joined today by Dave Whipple.

Dave has a YouTube channel that is called Bush Radical.

That is his main and first YouTube channel.

This channel has 1.15 million subscribers and only 237 videos uploaded.

Dave's doing really well over there.

He is got a great community where he talks all about rustic living and the freedom that you get from doing things yourself.

And he has since launched another YouTube channel that is just his name, Dave Whipple, W-H-I-P-P-L-E, where he is talking about.

Advice specifically blue collar advice for YouTube creators and just under 30 videos.

He's already grown that channel to almost 13,000 subscribers.

And so Dave, you have done a lot in the YouTube space and I'm just thankful that you're deciding to join us today.

I'm happy to be here.

Any questions you have looking forward to it.

Absolutely.

So let's talk about the origin story of the Bush Radical YouTube channel.

What did that look like?

How did that channel come to be?

Probably 20 years ago when YouTube was not a thing yet.

My wife and I were living in interior Alaska and the first house I ever owned was a cabin.

I built little 12 by 12 cabin and then I built another log house and I was a cement contractor in Fairbanks, Alaska.

And I was living this life that was, there was a lot of outdoor activities, a lot of canoeing and fishing and, Alaskan adventure stuff.

And back then all we had was photographs we'd take.

Photographs and we would have, five copies made and send them back to relatives.

So it felt like we were doing a lot of interesting stuff in a vacuum.

Fast forward a few years when YouTube started to be a thing, I was like, man, I would love to share some of my life.

'cause it's, it always got rise out of all the relatives back home, that were living off grid in a cabin in the middle of Alaska and doing things a different way.

And I'm like, this is.

Interesting to the people I know.

I think it would be interesting to the wider audience.

And when I started really understanding what YouTube was, 2008, nine probably, I saw other people that were doing similar style of content to what I would be making.

And I'm like, why am I not doing this?

And it was one of those things, like I, I knew that as soon as I started to understand the platform and see how.

Creators could put stuff out that, was very ordinary, but very interesting to a wide audience.

I'm like, man I just gotta be involved in this.

And I drug my feet for nine years because I'm not tech savvy.

I know garage band on a Mac computer 'cause I've recorded music for years.

But I'd never edited video.

I'd never.

I've never been in the film side of things at all, so it always seemed like a big hurdle to get over.

Fun fact I don't use the internet on my phone.

I've never been on X, I've never been on Twitter.

I've never uploaded a video to Facebook, like I just do YouTube.

So when I started doing the Bush Radical Channel, I had a ton of stuff I wanted to share.

I pretty much knew exactly the way I wanted to present stuff.

I wanted to get right to it.

I wanted to keep the shots moving, and I really wanted to I had a lot of stuff I wanted to get off my chest basically.

That was.

Projects and activities and different things that were interesting to other people that I now had an access to, to share with.

So it was very, like everything in my life, I drug my feet.

I took way longer than I should have to get started and it worked out.

So what exactly is the content.

On your channel.

So we talk about rustic living.

You're living off the grid.

This is a type of channel that has really exploded in the past.

Three to five years.

There's a lot of really successful off the grid channels.

I consume some of it honestly, as plugged in technology wise and as interested in tech that as I am, I think I use it as a form of kind of self soothing and it is almost it's methodical and it's just really enjoyable to me, someone who is not living the off the grid lifestyle, what exactly is the stuff that you're producing on the channel?

Originally, before I, before anything back in the nineties I've been a builder ever since I got outta school.

I barely got outta school, and I do mean that like barely and.

I got into I got into the building trades.

I started doing concrete construction outta high school.

And when I moved up to Alaska, I'm from, originally from Michigan.

Now I split my time between Michigan and Alaska.

When I moved up to Alaska, I was building, I was on concrete crews.

I did carpentry work and building my first house.

We bought a two acre piece of land for $6,000 back in 2001, and we used the logs from the property to build a little tiny log cabin.

So building has always been a big part of my life.

I've built most of the houses I've ever lived in, so to do the for, to do the content on YouTube that I do is not a jump.

I'm just doing what I've always done and a lot of the thought behind that is.

When you build yourself, you end up with a hundred percent ownership into property.

As long as you're paying cash for materials, you build something and then you own it.

You're not stuck in this 30 year mortgage cycle.

So I've always saw the freedom of doing things yourself.

It's always appealed to me, and that's just probably the big.

Part of what is on Bush Radical is building projects.

I've built probably seven cabins on that channel, and then different videos that accompany those.

I started out like a lot of people just chasing ideas that I thought might be interesting.

I really didn't have a.

A good grasp of picking a subject that has a broad audience and has a high ceiling.

I'm just like this would be cool.

And I put this up and then I started to become a student at the channel.

Tim Schmoyer was somebody I used to watch all the time.

Sure.

You're familiar with Tim?

And I just wanted to do better with the limited set of tools I had to work with.

So I was always studying the channel, trying to figure out like.

What is it that I have to offer that has a broad audience where I can bring those two things together and do the best I can with the video, work with the subject?

With the title?

With the thumbnail.

But most of the stuff that's on Bush Radical is either how to or it's project based building.

Building projects.

And there's some other ancillary things in there, but that's basically the heart of the channel.

Why do you think the channel has done so well?

Because I get clients that I coach all the time and people contact me and they've been doing this thing for a couple of years or a couple of months sometimes, and they're wanting that success now.

They're wanting it instantaneous.

But like for you, in your channel growing so quickly to such a large viewer base, what would you attribute that to?

I did have a first couple years of very slow growth, and I was happy with that.

I'd put a video up and it would get two or 3000 views and then maybe later it would grow to 10 or 15,000 views.

And I was very into the whole concept of putting out YouTube videos, so I was always answering comments and I answered every single comment until I had 80,000 subscribers and I just couldn't do it anymore.

It was just.

Too much, but I would probably tell new creators, you're gonna make a bunch of videos that probably aren't that great, become a student of the platform.

Really focus on your subject, your title, and your thumbnail.

Never ever waste anybody's time.

I think that's one of the things that, right from the very beginning of my channel, I got that feedback all the time.

'cause the first video I put out was a knife review.

Brooke and I were on season four of alone right before I went on to to start my YouTube channel.

So I had this knife I'd carried for seven weeks and on Vancouver Island, I'm like I'll do a review.

I'm an authority on this knife, I have.

I have as much insight under this piece of equipment as anybody else, and I shot a video and it was just bang.

This is what I like.

This is what I don't, here's the pro pros and cons and pluses and minuses, and I got this feedback from that video.

Finally, somebody just gets to the point.

I'm like yeah that's what I wish every YouTuber would do.

Dive right in and give you the goods.

Never waste your time and try to deliver an enjoyable viewing experience.

And for new people starting out, don't start a video like, yeah, it's Wednesday and it's sunny out.

Just shoot me.

Just shoot me.

So I don't know if that answered your question or if that was a little too far around the block.

No, it did.

And I think that people have to understand that oftentimes channel like yours don't just grow within, a snap of the finger.

No, it does take time.

And as you said, you built upon getting those smaller amounts of views as time progressed.

As far as like getting into the video I'm with you.

I, that's how I built my tutorial channel is just Hey, I'm gonna give you the answer you came here for.

I'm not gonna give you the fluff.

This is why you came here.

So I'm trying to give you that.

Solution.

I absolutely love that.

Now, how do you do storytelling?

Because I watched your most recent video.

You're talking about a specific build that you're doing over a extended amount of time.

You're really good at storytelling.

How have you improved that skillset of being able to take what you're doing, whether it be a project or a review of a product or whatever it may be, and incorporate some bit of storytelling?

Because I do believe that is what really.

Fuels channels that grow quickly is storytelling and being able for the audience to relate to that creator.

Yes.

Yes.

That is pretty key actually.

And the way I go about it is I always think about.

What's the heart of this video about?

What's the real value that somebody is gonna get?

Are they watching it for entertainment?

Do they wanna know the details?

What, how am I positioning this video?

So you start with your subject and then you figure out how the video is gonna be positioned.

Is it gonna be about this part of the subject?

This part of the subject?

And once you know that you can film the video or compile the video.

I always like to start nowadays anyway.

Not always, but I like to start with a hook.

And with a hook.

I like to jump right in, be like, this is the thing we're watching.

This is why it's amazing.

It's gonna help you in these ways.

That's a thing.

So you've met that audience expectation.

They saw the thumbnail.

They're like, oh, that looks good.

They read the title.

The title supported the thumbnails.

So they're like, okay.

They give you the click, which is everything.

And then that hook, you wanna make sure that you let them know that they're in the right spot, like they made the right choice, and here's everything you're gonna get.

I always try to get that in 15, 20 seconds and then dive right in.

And then the storytelling aspect.

At that point, I edit all my videos so they're completely edited, and then I'll sit down like we're sitting down right here.

Plug in my voiceover Mike, and I'll start watching the video and I'll just start talking about what's going on in the video.

Never, ever script anything.

And the reason is I tried.

When I first started, I was like, okay, this is what I wanna say.

It just sounded stupid, eh, you sound like a robot.

So I'm like, it's gotta be conversational.

I've gotta wing it.

I can always rerecord a spot.

So I'll just sit down and I'll be watching a video and I'll just tell you what I'm thinking about it.

This building pro.

Yeah.

I wish I would've done it different, which is an honest thing to say.

So it's always, it always has to be conversational.

And if I ramble too long, which I'm prone to, I'll be like, I can say that in fewer words.

So I'll erase that section of voiceover and I'll just try to say it more cleanly.

Try to say it more accurately with fewer words.

That's basically, I always wanna build up, to the end of the video where, you feel like you've been on the arc, you've, you see the beginning, the middle, and the end of the process.

And one other thing, I always like to put.

Kind of personal insights into the video.

I used to listen to Prairie Home Companion with Garrison Keeler years ago, and that dude was the best storyteller.

He tell these stories of this fictitious town he grew up in.

And, there was always, an emotional insight to it.

And everything everybody does has that little aspect to it.

So I always put that in there too.

And, that's basically the whole process for storytelling.

Do it on the fly conversational and put your little nuggets in there if you got 'em.

What is your approach to branding and packaging as far as thumbnails and titles, and how has that evolved over time?

Oh, I love that question, dusty.

As far as thumbnails, let's start with thumbnails.

I like the dumbest thumbnail possible.

If I'm fixing a boat motor, the thumbnail's gonna be a picture of a boat motor.

90% of the time it will never have any writing on it whatsoever.

I just want a good clean photo cropped in as tight as makes sense, go too tight.

You don't even know what you're looking at.

But a single good photo.

And then I like the dumbest titles in the world.

If I build a shed, which I have, the title's gonna be like, how to Build a Shed.

And it's not gonna be how to build a goat shed, because that excludes everybody that doesn't have goats or how to build a horse shed, same thing.

It excludes everybody.

It's just gonna be how to build a shed.

And so I'm gonna have the most basic thumbnail.

I'm gonna have the most basic title, and I'm gonna try to make that video deliver.

Start with a hook, try to crush it with shots, good angle shots, good voiceover.

And when it's done, make sure it's done.

As far as the thumbnail goes, you mentioned you, you very rarely put text on the thumbnail.

It's something that I'm more and more recommending to my clients that hire me to, to coach them with their channels is that, let the image do the talking for you.

And I'm looking at your channel now, and you have a title called How to Build an Outhouse, and you got a picture of you standing next to the outhouse.

That's pretty self-explanatory, right?

Yep, that's right.

Saving the off-grid cabin, a picture of the cabin.

Then you have a comparison video harbor freight sawmill versus a wood miser, right?

You got a picture of both of the things that you're comparing, so you're letting the image.

Do the talking for you.

And have you found that when you do that, the click through rate is better than when you just try to get too fancy with it and put a bunch of text on the thumbnail and such?

I feel, and this is gonna rub some people the wrong way.

I think it's nervous energy.

It's, insecurity.

People will have a thumbnail that's decent and they'll just cover it with lettering like, I need to make it better.

I need to make it.

And if you get a thumbnail too cluttered, it no longer serves its purpose.

The only purpose it serves is to show the viewer what they can expect.

And as soon as you put text over it, let me clarify this for you, if.

We were having a discussion about politics and it was about some specific thing in politics, text would be appropriate because you can't get a concept or a discussion across in a photograph.

It's very difficult, so text is appropriate in that.

But if you're building a doghouse, man, the thumbnail should be a picture of the doghouse and it doesn't need anything else.

And I love that.

Yeah, it just, I, the cleaner a thumbnail is the more bold and simple, and I give this analogy back in the mid ages, middle ages.

A lot of people couldn't read.

So when they would go into a town like the bakery the local baker would just have a loaf of bread as the sign because you didn't need to read it to understand that's where you get your bread.

It's just a big iron loaf of bread.

And that's the same way I look at thumbnails, as long as it's about a thing.

Thumbnail should be the thing, the best shot you can get.

Best cropping, best contrast, best lighting.

And if it's about a concept or a discussion or.

Theological or political debate, then use text because you can't get those things across in a photograph.

That's a great analogy.

Dave, why do you think most channels now fail or get little to no views or creators burnout?

Why do you think that is?

Yeah, that is a really good question.

Ever since I started, I've.

I've checked on people's channels.

If somebody leaves an interesting comment, I'll click on their channel to see what they're doing.

If I know that they have a channel, I think a lot of people.

There, there's a subsection of people, anyway, a group that think that because they're on YouTube, everybody should watch them and like they can do anything that they want and it's supposed to work.

And that's not right.

It's just like television.

If there was a show called Watching Paint Dry and it was just a wet painted wall, who's gonna watch that?

You have to identify the value that you're gonna offer.

You have to convey it in a crystal clear thumbnail.

You have to convey it and support that thumbnail with a title.

And I see a lot of creators missing that.

The thumbnails are super busy.

They don't really know what their own video's about.

I've.

I've encountered this problem with a lot of people I've talked to where they will shoot a ton of footage and then they'll try to make a video out of the footage, and that's like building a house from the roof down.

Like you need to start with, what am I gonna deliver?

You need to vet that pro, you need to vet that subject to see if it has a high ceiling.

If you're gonna, if I'm, you're gonna oh.

Shoot this huge video and it's, you're not really sure what to title it and you're not really sure what the thumbnail is, and it's gonna cover all these subjects, like how do you market that?

I like the idea of shooting a video, like how to change a tire, and the thumbnail is a tire, and it's like the best shots, the best angles, and the best information about how to change the tire.

It's 12 minutes long, it tells you everything.

And you watch it and you're like, that's exactly what I hoped it would be.

And the quicker creators internalize that and say I've gotta know what I'm doing.

And then it's easy to film and edit and then it's easy to market and I.

The sooner they internalize that, the faster they're gonna grow.

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When did you realize or think to yourself, this could be more than just a hobby, like this could be something that sustains me and my family.

This can be actual real income.

Do you remember the moment or the video or the time?

I had grown to probably 35,000 subscribers by year three and.

I think it was, I think it was the end of my third year.

I had a video that broke a million for the first time and I paid off like a credit card and I think I became debt free for the first time in a few years.

At that point, I'm like, okay, this is too a level where we're, I'm in a good spot now and I see these other.

Channels out there that have 5 million, 6 million, 7 million view videos, and I'm like that.

I can see now that is a possibility.

I would've been okay making, $5,000 a month in perpetuity and just living inexpensively.

That would've been fine.

But after making that first million view video, I'm like, okay this is really actually doable.

And, it became not just like this is a subsistence way to live, but like this could be a really substantial income.

And all I have to do is just do better, be more focused, turn in a better version of what I hope to share and make sure it already has an audience before I ever record.

And that's a big point a lot of people miss.

Yeah, let's talk about monetization now and the ways that you make money.

Can you talk about that and maybe on average, give us the amount of income that you're able to make through your content on, an average month or so?

As far as monetization, I am a AdSense only channel.

I don't do endorsements.

I don't get products and review them for for, an income.

A lot of middle-sized channels will do that.

They'll be reviewing products a couple times a month.

I generally do one video a month.

I make sure it has an audience like it's gotta have a.

It's gotta have a high enough potential that it's worth my time.

It's gotta be in my wheelhouse.

It's gotta be something I wanna do anyway.

And once all those things line up the last question is am I willing to film this video?

Because I'm generally doing 30 shots a minute, and in my editing process I'm changing the shot all.

So it's a lot of physical work moving the camera.

So I'm only AdSense revenue.

And I think last year I made just shy of 300,000.

Sure.

Which, and I think the year before I, I was over four and then 2000, 2002 was probably my biggest year, and I was pretty close to a half a million that year.

Yeah.

And.

As far as that goes, what do you think attributes to that?

Your videos are long, your cadence is only one a month.

They're very story driven.

These people who love the type of content that you create, they consume that content, and they eat it up.

They watch these videos throughout.

And if I go to your channel right now, a lot of your videos are 25, 30 some, upwards of 45 minutes long.

And so you're getting a bunch of ads.

Through that the pre-roll, the post-roll, a few mid-rolls and all of that.

What do you think are the pros and cons?

Because, I never really encourage people to just do AdSense, but for you doing it for a few years now and you've making really good money, what do you see as the pros and cons of that?

The pros and cons of just being an AdSense channel.

It's pretty simple.

The con is you're leaving a ton of money on the table.

There's people that do reviews and they're making a.

Probably a similar income without getting, without needing the skills to make a 10 million view video.

And and but I'm not into sales and most everything that I have and use, especially in the videos is old used stuff.

So I don't want new gear.

I wouldn't feel right about trying to hock it.

On one hand.

Being AdSense only is very freeing.

'cause I just go do what I want to do and I don't have contracts, I don't have to, get my script approved to endorse, a solar panel or a TV or whatever.

So it is very freeing in that aspect.

It's also very limiting because.

People who do education channels, create courses, coaching and stuff like that, they make pro way more money than I do.

But they're also dealing with tech and email lists and such like that, which kind of, it brings me onto another point I'd to make is, that's one of the reasons I started my second channel, just Dave Whipple.

To help content creators because one of the most confusing things in my opinion today is YouTube advice.

'cause you have this online business advice that's centered around YouTube, and then you have like content creation advice.

And a lot of times they're so intermingled with each other.

Somebody who's just starting out and wants to make good videos is, they're consuming this information about emailing lists and how to run Kajabi and they're like, I don't understand any of this because there's two different languages being spoken.

Do you know what I mean?

Yes.

Yeah.

Yes.

I really appreciate you being honest about that because I do, have creators say, oh, that's what I wanna do.

But they really underestimate that.

If you're just solely an ad sense channel, your niche has to be specific.

If you're in a space where the ad rates are super bad, then you're gonna have to get.

Tens of millions of views.

Yeah.

And, you really have to do some research to figure out if it's even sustainable, are their channels doing it?

And a channel like yours is perfectly fit fit for that.

With the new channel, which is just, YouTube advice and stuff of that nature what would you say are some of the common misconceptions about YouTube and maybe some bad advice that people give?

Uploading schedule is one of the first things that comes to mind.

Go ahead and dive into that.

If you were a online business doing coaching courses and you were trying to build a presence, constantly uploading at the same time, every week would be beneficial to you If you're an entertainment or an edutainment channel.

Or a vlog style channel quantity's never gonna win that game.

And people are like I've been told I've gotta upload, twice a week.

It's you upload when you've got something really solid that you have, every reasonable expectation is gonna work.

And if you don't, you're just basically adding another piece of junk to your channel.

And I hate to say it that way, but it's if you go into a thrift store.

They might have 10,000 things in that thrift store, but none of them really have any value.

Where you go into a guitar center, they have a hundred guitars, and every guitar is, between $303,000.

Many fewer items, but they're all of more value.

So I tell people all the time it's all about quality, not quantity.

The upload schedule fits the business model, but it's not gonna move the ball forward.

What's gonna move the ball forward is shooting a video on a subject that has a really high potential.

Where the other really good performing videos in that space are 1, 2, 3, 10 million views.

And if you nail a great video in a, on a subject that has a high ceiling and you get high viewer retention and.

It's well received and it takes off and you end up with 3 million views from it.

You're probably gonna pick up, a couple hundred thousand subscribers.

It's very possible to pick up, 50, 60, a hundred thousand, 200,000 subscribers from a video like that.

And then all of a sudden you're a mid-level player off one video.

You're never gonna get there Hey, it's Thursday.

I said, I'd upload and here I am.

That doesn't work.

W with AI and the future looking so crazy with technology just evolving so fast, everything's changing.

What do you think is going to be the future of the platform?

What do you think the creator space looks like?

I don't know.

That's a very.

That's above my pay grade.

I build outhouses and film them the whole AI thing, I don't know that I'll ever dabble in it at all.

It, I think there, I think you're gonna have to jump on one side or the other.

You're gonna, you're gonna figure out AI and use it and wield it, and there's gonna be people that.

That can really wield AI and know how to make it work for them.

And then I think everybody else is gonna have to they're gonna have to go the exact opposite direction.

Personal connection.

Being a, a flawed human being is gonna become a commodity to some extent.

And I think it's gonna be, split.

Explain, people use ai Oh, go ahead.

Go ahead.

Sorry, ex, explain what you mean by that.

'cause I think I agree with you, but I want to hear your thoughts on that as far as being a flawed.

Let's say for, in this case, like a flawed creator.

Like how is that gonna set you apart?

Because when I do these channel reviews every week, I'm getting more and more of these AI generated channels where, it's just some of them are going to work and they're gonna make good money, but the majority of them are not.

And we don't know how YouTube in the future is gonna classify content.

So explain what you meant by that.

When I click on a video and it's slick.

It's, AI generated photographs, AI generated, concept drawings and stuff like that.

And I'm hearing this manufactured voice reading a script that was just a transcript downloaded.

I'm like I don't want this.

I don't care what it has to offer.

It's it's plastic in a lot of ways.

I'd rather hear a human being tell me a lesser version of the same video.

Than I would have an AI created video.

It just, I don't feel any connection to it.

It there you can get some amazing information across in an AI video and support it with amazing AI generated photographs.

But it's still it's fake.

It's a prompt and there's nothing behind it.

I don't think people with AI generated channels should.

I don't really think they should get credit.

All they did is make a suggestion of what they wanted.

Probably upload a transcript and then you've got yourself a video.

So I think that, I hope.

I hope that AI generated videos are going to exceed their shelf life and people are gonna be like, ah, I just don't really wanna see any more of this.

You want that human connection, even if the person on the other end is flawed and maybe they don't edit and flow as smooth as ai.

At least they're real.

So I think you jump on one side of that fence.

Yeah.

Or the other.

Ultimately my thoughts.

That you can utilize AI as a helpmate.

As someone that, as a tool as we've used software for years, but we are going to get into a future where AI becomes a replacement.

And like I said, you, you can sit back and like you said, you'll have to go one side of the fence or the other.

You can't really be in the middle where oh, I may think of, no, you've either gotta go all in or you're just kinda like what you're saying where you're just like, Hey.

I'm not gonna dabble in it.

I'm gonna do my thing's working and we're just gonna continue on from there.

So I I absolutely I do agree with that sentiment.

Dave, you've been an amazing guest and I'm really excited for you to continue to grow your other channel where you're doing the blue collar advice for YouTube success.

I absolutely love that.

And I think that we just went through a segment talking about artificial intelligence, but the beauty of YouTube still.

Or lies in creators like you starting a channel called Bush Radical, talking about a knife, and then fast forward 5, 6, 7 years later, 1 million subscribers later, hundreds of th millions of dollars of revenue.

Having that as a platform, I is why I do what I do.

I love talking to creators like you because there can be a creator who has an opinion like you on something, and then someone who I talk to next week who has the complete opposite of opinion.

But that's why people always say when it comes to YouTube, you gotta do it your way.

You gotta be passionate about what you're talking about.

You really gotta find what makes you different, what sets you apart.

So Dave, thank you again.

Do you have any parting words to the creators that are listening today?

I think anybody can succeed on YouTube.

I don't think everybody will, but I think you can.

You can't go about it all wrong and not find the value in what you have to offer and just be like, Hey, here I am.

But if you do wanna succeed, I think it is possible for just about anybody.

The tech is very easy.

You upload one video once and you basically, you're just gonna be repeating that process every time.

And if you can focus on value and be yourself and offer a your perspective and make sure you never waste anybody's time.

I've said that before, but that's a big, that's a big problem.

Love that.

I think it possible.

I think everybody has a shot at it and.

I think you should have my brother on the podcast.

My brother's name is, we talk about it.

Yeah.

His name is Ryan Whipple.

His channel is Black Spruce and his very first video got a million.

Views.

Oh wow.

That's in the first's.

Awesome.

First six months, number one video.

It's it's a proof of concept that somebody, if they focus correctly and that they're viewer centered, you can knock it out of the park on day one if you have the right mindset and if you don't, it's a long learning curve, but anybody can do it.

I agree with that as well.

Guys, it, we have been joined today by Dave Whipple from the Bush Radical YouTube channel, as well as his new education channel.

I'll link everything that he talked about today, both those channels in the show notes.

And Dave, we really appreciate you joining us this week, and we'll talk to you later.

Thanks, dusty.

I had a great time.

We'll see you soon.

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