So I was talking to my dad the other day about movies from the seventies, because as you and Scott and Wayne, I think that's fair to say.

I have been doing the A film at fifty, you know, all these movies from nineteen seventy five.

I've been asking my dad about, you know, did you go see this?

Do you remember when this came out?

And sometimes he's like I don't, I don't know what that movie is, or saying sometimes he's like, of course everyone went and saw that.

We were talking about the Eiger sanction.

You know, you and Wayne?

Did you and Wayne did that when a couple?

What was that like two months ago?

Two months ago?

Yeah, that's right.

I like he had he had a line where he was just basically yeah, that's when the movies were made.

They made him different.

They didn't have all the computer crap that you guys do now.

You know, Clint was on the mountain.

He had to be on the mountain.

Yeah, And I was like, yeah, you know that was back then when safety regulations were a little bit different than the way'd have a choice, they'd have a choice.

Could you imagine them making a movie like that today without the use of CGI there's.

No way it would happen today, right, No way?

Wrong?

Oh, I am.

Dave.

Let's talk about a film by Julian Gilby, his twenty eleven underrated thriller, A Lonely Place to Die.

Hello everybody, and welcome back.

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Yes, we do.

So far this year James has been responsible for these episodes Devil in the Blue Dress and the Raid.

Well, let's see if he can go three for three.

Let's start with a little chat about Julian Gilby.

Three facts and maybe a quote, And Dave, I gotta be honest, I was kicking over every loose rock on the mountain trying to find some stuff out about this guy.

You know, newer director, right, he's not been around long, so ye.

British actor Nigel Bruce, best known for playing Doctor Watson alongside Basil Rathbone's Sherlock Holmes in many Sherlock Holmes films, can also be remembered for his work in the Alfred Hitchcock thrillers Rebecca, which Brad and I covered a few seasons ago, and Suspicion.

But Dave, Julian Gilby most likely remembers him as his great grand father.

Now, you remember at the beginning of the year, you and you, me and Amber were talking about young Schlock Holmes.

I know, we kind of talked a little bit about Basil Rathbun and his movies.

Mm hm.

Who would have thought we'd be talking about is a great great grandson, Julian Gilby The Small World?

What happened?

Yeah, I gotta ask you a question because you have directed several independent films.

It's tough, right, Oh.

It's very hard.

Yes.

For his first film, the two thousand and two low budget horror film Reckoning Day, Gilby wrote, acted, directed, and was his own cinematographer.

Okay, he was also the makeup artist and editor.

Well, you do wear many hats, but wow, that's a little ridiculous.

I'm thinking back because I've been on set with you, and I'm starting to wonder, like maybe you've been sandbagging.

He should be doing some more.

First off, I'd never want to be in front of the camera, so kudos town for being doing that.

But that's not for me.

Yeah, I'll tell you one thing that may or may not be for you.

Before scouting locations for this film began, he and his brother Will, who co wrote the script, became experienced climbers so that they can make this movie.

That's going all in.

Yeah, Well, as we talked about, and you know, at the cold Open, we were talking about Eiger sanction.

Right back then, there was no CGI, there was no computer animation to change stuff.

Up on location.

He is on location with this movie with his cast and his crew and they're on the mountain and with exception, Yeah, with exception, there's a few very nerve wracking scenes with Melissa George where she's kind of trapped on the mountain with it with no safety harness, no line.

Now, obviously he's not gonna let Melissa George be on a mountain five on her feet up and not attached or anything.

So she was attached and they digitally erased some of the lines that were keeping her safe.

Other than that they're up there.

That's insane.

But again, you can tell how realistic it looks in the film because of them doing that.

So I'm glad they did it.

Yeah, so I got I found a quote he did an interview with a California literary review discussing this movie and kind of how his how he directs right, and he says, quote, I like to think of myself sometimes as a bit of a method director.

So what the characters are going to do?

I want to do?

Now, when I say method, I don't mean I'm kidnapping.

No, No, that's more the fictional side of things.

No, it was the climbing and the mountaineering.

Now that's not to say we didn't have quite a lot of winging it for the opening sequence up the mountain, and you know, the crew got scared and a rock almost fell on somebody.

That's just bad luck.

And mountains are not a safe environment.

No, no, no, So I kind of dig the fact he wants to shoot on the mountain, so he's gonna have to be on the mountain, so he's going to have to climb.

So he kind of talks about how they basically created a skeleton crew to say we don't need you, we don't need you.

You're staying down.

You're staying down.

And then he would just hand pick a handful of people to go up the mountain to get these shots and to get it done, and he was up there right there with them.

I really respect him for that, Yeah, absolutely, And I can see why keep it simple, keep it small, because the more people you have up there, the more dangerous it's going to be.

Calm, So I get that, but yeah, wow, that's impressive that they did that on the side of the mountain, especially today.

Come on, man, you do that on set somewhere with some CGI, not really being on the side of a mountain.

I don't know how he got away with it, but yeah, Dave, I know you and I kind of went into this not knowing what this movie was.

James Buckley, our Patreon producer, said, guys a lonely place to die, And my reaction was absolutely, Dave, what is I've.

Never heard of it, you know, and I haven't.

Yeah, so you want to give us a brief synopsis of what this movie is all about.

Sure, five friends are enjoying some mountain climbing and exploring when they stumble upon a girl buried in the ground with only a breathing tube sticking out of the surface allowing her to breathe.

The five friends quickly dig her up and make a plan to get her to safety, only discover that they found themselves in the wrong place at the wrong time, even though they're trying to do the right thing.

It leads them into the race of their life to not only save the little girl, but also themselves.

David, I gotta hand it to you that synopsis is just as good as the trailer that you can watch for this online.

You can watch it on tuob.

I'm gonna ask did you go in Ice Cold?

Like did you know anything about this movie and you just hit play?

Or did you do a little research?

Did you watch the trailer?

So I did not watch the trailer.

I went into this Ice Cold.

But here's the thing.

When I got to the point where they discover the girl, I don't know where I saw that at.

I don't know if it popped up like when I was like browsing through some films one day on tuby, because I remember them finding that breathing too.

But that's all I remember from that film.

It's like I've seen that somewhere, but I think it's just because I was browsing.

But yeah, I went into this Ice Cold.

I I had to know a little.

I had to I had to at least have my my interest peaked.

Mm hm.

So I was like, you know what, let's let's let's just watch the trailer.

It's it's it's streaming free on tub Let's check it out.

Let's see what I'm in for.

Because James is he's not let us down yet.

In my opinion, he has not.

He has not this trailer is so intense.

Mh.

And in just two minutes, we are getting dangerous climbing mountains, Guys on a with rifles, hunting people, people in peril, there's a little girl, there's kidnapping.

I'm all in after seeing the trailer, this is one of the better construct the trailers I've seen in a long time.

Especially for spailling it.

But I didn't see the trailer, but I mean with it being a spalling dependent film, that says a lot of the trailer was not powerful.

If if I would have seen the trailer when I knew we were doing it, you know, when I first knew that we were going to be doing this movie, if I want to watch the trailer that night, we've probably been recording like within two days, I would immediately have to stop at what I was doing to go see this meeting.

Yeah, you know one of those IFC films.

Did you ever notice like it's like them in A twenty four are like becoming the go to studios for the risk amazing.

Stuff, right, yeah, because they take risks where the big studios don't, these smaller ones do.

They go after them.

And I want that.

I like that, that's what a small director like this.

Would want well talking about filming on location, Can we just take a minute to talk about the beautiful cinematography by Ali Asad?

Yeah.

Absolutely, I'd written that down because, as you know, I love to talk about cinematography.

Let's do it.

Being a fer myself, so all of his shots were absolutely stunning, especially when you're dealing with all the mountains, the climbing going into that.

I can't imagine with you know what you told us that they did this on the side.

Of a mountain.

I cannot imagine.

As a cinematographer being up there with the camera watching my safety, watching other people's safety, but also making sure that I'm getting the shots right.

That's crazy, Jeff.

And the fact that he pulls it off as he does is amazing, and it's beautifully done.

Beautifully done.

I can't agree more.

I'm just captivated by the shots that he's getting and I'm thinking, my god, Scotland is gorgeous.

Yeah, and just the lighting everything is amazing.

And then danger hits and I looked I was like, wait a minute, not even We're not even five minutes in, right, and we get what I kind of feel is becoming a trope for thrillers or action movies that take place on a mountain.

And what I'm talking about, uh is h I'll call it the cliffhanger trope.

Sure, ye're five minutes in the line breaks, the girl's in trouble.

Hey, it's okay, Stallone's here.

It's in a savor right, Game's got it, He's you know, game, don't you lose her?

Man?

You know?

And I remember seeing this opening weekend, not not to turn this into a cliffhanger episode, but I remember seeing that and my date was clutching the arm rests, and you know, she's like, don't let me die, don't you know?

The girl and he's so please, you know.

And I leaned over and I told this girl, it's Stallone.

He's not gonna drop.

Her incorrection and then dropped her.

He was like, what did I just what happened?

You know?

One of the greatest openings to a movie, you know, hilariously Peried Peried in Ace Fincher too with Nature Calls.

But then Vertical Limit, which you and I love a big fan of Vertical We covered it, Andrew, we had our special guest Andy Tom.

We're all talking.

Vertical Limit has that same.

Everyone's cool.

We're just we're just climbing this mountain.

And then the line you know, snaps, and then it's like and I'm thinking they did it cliffing.

I'm not gonna do it vertical limit.

Nope, there goes dadd Holy shit.

Like when you have a movie open with people having some fun on a mountain, I just assume that someone's gonna die, you know, you do, yeah, And I think it's like four minutes and change, there's a mistake happens, and three of our climbers, three of our our characters are in serious jeopardy, and I'm like, what Melissa George isn't gonna die because she's she's a star.

I don't know which one of these two chumps is about to bite it.

But but then they don't.

No, the one guy saves the other, and it's it's all good.

You know.

I'm a photographer, Yeah, but there are certain places you do not want to pull your camera out, okay, and I think that's one of them.

You do not.

This jackass is like, hold on, let me get a selfie, you know, take my picture.

You know.

She's like she's all excited about this hawk, you know, that's flying by, and he's like, never forget the hawk, take my picture.

Get I want you, I want able to see how high up we are and this foot is not paying attention where it should be and rope and all of a sudden you're upside down about to fall.

I was surprised that no one died.

Yeah, but I just want you to know.

And I want to go on record, Jeffrey, if you and I were ever in that situation, just tell me to put the damn camera away.

Okay the minute.

The minute, I'm I'm I'm blaying or whatever the hell like, and you're like, hold on, I got I gotta, I gotta put a put the big lens.

I'm like, put it away.

Now was not the time.

And Melissa George is even like, hey, why don't we take the picture when we're at the top of the mountain.

You're coming sense?

Yeah, common sense?

Id I do love that.

Once they get up there, she immediately is like, hey, you'll never climb with me again if you can't get it together.

There's a time and place like hell, yeah, get him, get him, Melissa, get him.

I thought it was fantastic though, because I'm I'm watching it and my heart was pounding, and I was I just was feeling the pressure and the stress.

I was like, ah, all right, they're fine, But then my brain was like, yeah, it's still a thriller.

People will die, So they will and they do and they do.

But uh not before we take a quick break.

When we come back, Dave, there's a couple of people we need to talk about in this cast.

Okay, absolutely, welcome back.

We are discussing Julian Gilby's A Lonely Place to Die brought to you by our Patreon member James Buckley.

So James, thank you as always for your support and for keeping us watching good movies.

That's true.

Melissa George, she's playing Alison.

I'm gonna say this is an actress who has done a lot of work.

She just kept very busy over the years.

I just don't understand why we're not seeing her on the big screen more often.

Amazing.

I love her.

She's a great actress.

I I kind of came to know her from she had a limited run on Friends.

She was playing the nanny Molly.

Okay, but she did mal Holland Drive.

Everyone knows her.

I think she's kind of launching the Spotlight with the Amityville horror remake.

Where she's playing Yeah.

And then she did that awesome vampire movie Thirty Days a Night.

Oh yeah, great film, I love that movie.

Yep.

Amber Lewis will remind us that she was on Gray's Anatomy.

I never watched the show, so I'm sure she was awesome on it.

I'm sure she was.

Again, I will also remind you because everything comes back to Star Trek.

She was in Discovery.

She played Vina you got no, she did?

Yeah, she did.

Everything comes back to.

Sometimes I think you're making shit up just as just to use your line.

Everything comes back to Trek.

She was on Star Trek, Discovery, she was okay, but yes, she was all right.

So we'll look for her at the conventions, and that's.

Right, and Wayne will be getting her autograph.

Sure, I'm sure he will.

I'll tell you whose autograph he won't be getting, Franka POTENTI.

I think I'm saying that right.

I'm not sure.

Very good actress.

She was in the first Jason Bourne movie if you remember Oh Yeah, Run Hullo Run and Jason and the Bourne Identity.

She had the job and then she was replaced by Melissa George.

So I'm okay with that.

I'm okay with it too.

I'm assuming you'd call that, Uh, what's what's the what's the line there?

Dave creative difference?

Is Jeff create a favorite line?

Her favorite line?

Yeah?

Uh.

The thing I love about this movie is Melissa George.

Yeah.

I don't know how she does half the things she's doing in this movie, but she is a full on action star.

I know she did a lot of her her climbing.

Julian Gilby is on record of saying, hey, she did everything I needed her to do.

She tried to do more than what I needed her to do, and that's when I had to remind her there is a stunt woman that we are paying to be here to take some of these risks.

So well she looks Yeah, absolutely, she's very believable.

Uh and she you you would believe that she's in and climber.

There's no doubt about that.

She pulls well.

Okay, she has a she has a climber's body.

Yeah.

And what I mean by that is you can see that she is she's sculpted, she's toned, like I believe, like you know, when she's climbing.

Some of these moments that just the muscle definition that you see pop up, you know, and like her back and her shoulders, it's in her arms.

It's like, hell, yeah, this woman she went and learned how to climb.

Yeah.

Uh.

And I know before they they are on location in Scotland, she's back here in the States, actually in Los Angeles, you know, climbing walls and and training and prepping for it.

Yeah.

And you have to have that because there's a certain way that you prevent your body when you're when you're climbing like that.

And you can clearly tell those who don't have the training and those who do have the training.

So you can tell she went through a lot of practice there prepped for this, and it shows.

She's very impressive in this.

And I'm not talking just about the action stuff, the physicality that she she brings to it, her moments with the little girl.

I know we'll get of that later when we're talking about some noteworthy scenes.

But she's amazing, absolutely amazing.

This is my new favorite Melissa George performance.

Go ahead and say that right now.

Yes, she is being hunted her and her friends by mister Kid, who is played with just a cold calculating I don't know what to call it coolness.

Like this guy, he's Sean Harris is just super cool.

He's he's such a great bad guy, isn't he?

He is from extremely well in this and again you believe.

In yeah, now if you're if you're saying Sean Harris.

Sean Harris.

He played Solomon Lane in some of the Mission Impossible movies, so obviously just a fantastic villain.

Uh.

Did you ever see a movie called The King with Timothy Shallamey.

No, We're gonna do it at some point because I love this movie.

Uh, he's in that as well, Okay, and he's he's he's one of those character actors where you're like every time, like the first time you see him, you're like, oh, I know that guy.

I've seen him before, even though you haven't seen him before.

I've now seen him in four movies, and I'm I'm trying to make it five because like I want to look up his filmography and figure out what else he's done, because he's he's incredible.

He's so he's just nerdously awesome in this movie.

There are certain actors who can really pull off the villain, and he does incredible job with it.

I think it's something about he's not he's not a large guy.

No, and his voice is very soft.

It's very distinct.

So it's almost like you you want or you need to pay attention to every word he says, because if you miss something, you're afraid he's gonna kill you.

Yeah.

I just there's something soft about him that that makes him scary.

And I know that sounds weird to say it like that, but that's the best way I can think about it.

But it's true.

It makes sense.

His soft this is scary.

Yeah.

He So he's one, he's one of the two kidnappers.

And just from the gig.

His his his introduction, you know, because we got some we got some.

Poachers, but they had me foold with that dude.

Well okay, so we got these two, these two guys who are giving off some serious deliverance vibes.

Yeah, and I'm like, okay, these two jackasses are the scary people, like, that's who we got to worry about.

And they've got these these very intimidating rifles.

Well I think they're both they're both carrying three O eight's right, And then Sean Harris and his buddy show up without rifles and just dispatch these two guys like they're nothing.

Oh but I mean that one guy, I mean they're both shitheads.

But like the second guy, when they're like keep walking and he's they're basically backing him up off the cliff, and he is so scared and terrified.

I was like, Yeah, if I got to be one of those two guys, I'll be the I'll be guy number one that just gets his throat slit.

He doesn't even know it.

He's dead instantly.

The other guy, man, he took a just gloriously terrible, awful fall down the mountain.

He didn't die instantly.

I just loved how a little bit.

I just loved how that was directed.

Not them dying.

I just loved the fact that they threw you off as an audience.

You thought they were the killers, they were the ones who were there that were going to take out our climbers.

And then because they never show what they're looking at or they're aiming at, you just get you just cut to seeing the hiker the climbers, you know, walking and running, so you assume that these are the two guys.

But then when the other two show up and they get killed and you realize, oh crap, they were just hunting shit.

How how great of a misdirect was that?

It was great?

Even even when Sean Harris shows up, I'm like, oh, okay, so these guys work for him and it is not the case.

All of a sudden, you get a little bit of a you know alpha, you know, challenging for for dominance, Like the poachers are pissed at these at these guys, and then these guys are like they just they just dispatch them so quickly and comments It's great.

Absolutely love Sean Harris, Melissa George.

I gotta be honest with you.

I didn't really recognize anyone else in this cast.

Is there someone that you wanted to talk about?

Is there someone I'm missing?

There is someone you're missing?

Jeff Okay, Ed ed Spieler's Ed's who is it?

Ed Spieler's sper You.

Haven't been introduced to mister Spielers yet because you haven't got to pick card season three and yes, once again to star Trek.

But here's another thing.

We met him at a convention a couple of years ago.

Wayne already got his autograph on that.

Yeah, he was.

Okay, who is he playing in the movie, like put face to it?

He plays he plays ed ed.

Yeah, he survives almost to the end.

Okay, Okay, he's the he's the he's the dip ship with the camera.

Yes, on the mountain, Yes, the younger guy.

Yeah.

So I I can't tell you the name of the character for Piccard because I don't you've not seen season three yet.

No, I don't want to ruin anything for you.

Okay, but he has a big role in Picard season three.

And we've already seen him.

We've already talked to him.

Well, you guys have talked to him.

Yeah.

I went up with Wayne to meet him to sign the audit his So.

Yeah, I'm assuming he's actually British.

He's not.

He is, Okay, pretty nice guy too, all right, And he used a pivotal role in Piccard season three.

Absolutely all right.

Well, uh, I admit I did like him.

I did like that character.

Yeah, because for the camera stuff.

But other than that, yes, well, character.

Again, it's in the misdirect because I'm like, this dip ship is not gonna make it right.

And then he kind of he heroes up.

He does not as much as Melissa George does, but he still you know, he steps up to take care of the little girl and I dig that.

I mean he goes down the side of a hill and breaks his leg.

Oh that hurts.

Oh god, yeah, ouch.

Like that is a great moment there when he's she I mean, Melissa George is full on like Ripley throughout the whole, as soon as the action starts, because he's like, what do you want me to do?

It broke?

But like, sugar, you didn't break it.

Your brother on at your phone.

It's like wow, And Edieven reminds me a little bit of you, Jeff.

There's the scene whether before they find the girl.

They're taking a break.

They're eating, they're drinking, and she goes to hand him something and the food touches something else and he goes, oh, I can't eat it now, it's tainted.

This reminds me of job.

They'll be they'll be calling me out for my my, uh my, nonsense, I.

Gotta call you out.

Oh man?

All right?

Then?

Uh background on this movie, HM, barely anything can be found.

Not surprised, I try to yeah not, Oh yeah, I'm not surprised.

But here's what I can't tell you.

So it's filmed on location in Scotland.

We've been talking about that.

Yep.

The working title was The Grave at Angel's Peak.

Yuck.

Okay, hold on to that one, okay, because his brother co wrote the script from an original screenplay that he did called The Long Weekend.

Okay, I could see that one.

Okay, So okay.

So here's the thing.

Honestly, I'm not loving A Lonely Place to Die as.

A title as a title, but it's catchy.

It is.

It rolls up to a little It maybe a little misleading.

I just but I like.

I like it more than The Grave at Angel's Peak.

I like it better than The Long Weekend.

The Long Weekend could star Helen Mirren in a garden.

We don't know.

It's just it doesn't grab me, know, none of the titles grab me.

A Lonely place to Die it almost works if the movie stayed on the mountain.

We'll get to this.

Is that fair?

We're good?

Okay, Okay.

Maybe I'm making a little bit too much of it, but I just had to say that.

The film premiered at Action Fest Film Festival in North Carolina.

Dave not too far south from US.

I think we might want to check this film festival out next year.

This movie won Best Film and Best Director at the actual Film Festival.

Yeah, I did.

I mean, I'm telling you right now.

Like the direction, Julian's direction is fantastic, cinematography, fantastic.

I'm loving, I'm loving everything.

Let's talk about a couple of scenes and find our way to the pivotal moment, if you will.

So, can we start off with them discovering the little girl at.

Anna, Yeah, when Ed's taking his pe break.

Yes, a voice it carries from that pipe.

Yeah, and it has a real caroline and poltergeist vibe.

It's almost very ghost like.

Yeah, going through that forest.

Yes, Yeah, I'm like, okay, is what are we dealing with it?

Is this a supernatural thriller?

Is it a regular thriller?

Why is this little girl have to be so creepy?

Because that's the rule in thrillers and horror films, Like if there's a little girl, she's nine times out of ten she's creepy, right of course.

Yeah, so another troope, but we love it.

Yeah, and uh, you know they find her, they dig her, you know, they dig out this little this little box that she's been held in.

And now I feel like the movie switches gears because now we have to get her to safety off the mountain before whoever is coming after.

Right, we haven't seen Sean Harris at this point, we haven't seen the Deliverance style poachers.

No nobody yet except for a main cast.

I think about how scary a moment like that would be in real life, Jeff, if I would just stumble along a little girl in a hole like that.

Yeah, I mean, you know, obviously somebody put her there, and they put her there for a reason, and they clearly did not want her to be discovered.

So you discovering them and digging them up just puts you in the.

Crosshairs, you know.

You got to know immediately you're on the clock.

Yes, absolutely, because someone's probably coming back pretty soon, yep.

And clearly they are a dangerous individual yep.

And I would love to think that I'm gonna level up and be all, you know, superhero, but I'd probably be like scared shitless and like get her, pick her up, let's go right now.

So I do like that vibe that they all have, like let's go, come on.

I agree, I mean they all sense the danger immediately and they knew that they had to get out of which which makes sense because I would think anybody would would feel that.

But I think the biggest mistake there was splitting up.

Shouldn't I shouldn't have done that.

Well, I understand why they were doing it because of the climb.

I get it, I get it.

Yeah, but I think they all should have went together, even if it was the long way.

You know, it's it's safety and numbers.

I get that, And it is a it is a cool moment because it's like, hey, it'll take us twenty miles or two of us can go down the what do they call It's like the Devil's Peak or Devil's Devil's tooth, Devil's peak, something like that, something something something scary as hell.

Yeah, it's the five hundred foot drop.

Because at this point, I think I think it's safe to say, like Rob is who we're looking at to be the hero of the movie, right, Yeah, he's the most experienced climber.

He's calling the shot.

I love when he basically points to Alison say it's you, and then he looks at Ed and he's like, hey, no arguments, I need the best, and Ed has the the situational awareness to he does take ego out of it and just say, hey, yeah, she's the best.

You guys, the ear the two best.

That's what you gotta do.

So imagine my shock when Rob is dead two minutes later.

Not much long later.

I'm like, what And it's funny when I'm not funny because it's tragic that happens.

But the director's camera angles at times really let you to believe that something's wrong, something's up, even though you weren't sure just yet.

And then just the way he shot them climbing down that cliff, you're like, something's going to happen here, but you weren't sure of it yet until you see poor Rob.

The rope break and Rob comes flying down.

Little little taste of danger when the rope is not long enough, and now she, you know, is like, I'm out of rope.

You know, she's freaking out.

And then she's like, it's a five foot drop to the nearest foothold, and then just goes Tom cruise mission impossible too, and let's go of the rope and makes it and then she like looks up.

She's like, hey, this is some scary ship, like be careful, and you're like, well, he's he's gonna be fine, and his body just goes sailing past her and you're like, hold on, hold on, he's fine, right, And then we get the shot of like his corpse splattered across the rock.

I'm like, yeah, he's not fine.

What he's not fine?

He's not fine.

But then she she takes the the dive.

Yeah, coming hurling at her.

Yeah, rocks.

It's like I say, okay, one rock, that's that's okay.

Two rocks, three, three rocks.

Someone's trying to throw rocks at her and and knock her off.

And that's when we see the real villains have showed up.

Mm hmm.

And these guys are like on a shooting spree, and the the the intensity just ratchets up from this moment.

Absolutely.

Can we talk about her her first blood John Rambo moment where she's like, she's stuck right on the mountain.

He's probably what another two fifty up?

Yeah, at least, And she.

Does this the the Insanity Leap where she she goes to like three or four branches of an evergreen tree to break her fall and then it hits the water I'm like, do they seriously just kill Melissa George?

Are we like, are we gonna be with like the other people because they and in my brain's like, well they got the kids, so that would make sense.

But but it's Melissa George.

Why did you kill Melissa George?

Except except that you didn't?

And she washes up on the rocky shore next to Rob's corpse to find out the ropes beIN cut.

Yep, great moment.

I think, absolutely it is.

How did you feel?

There's another trope we got to talk about.

How did you feel about the bluff?

I think?

Is it Alex?

Maybe the other guy, one of the other guys does the whole The trope I'm talking about is is when you're in a typically it's a horror film, you know, sometimes it's an action movie.

Mm hmm.

But someone decides that they're gonna sacrifice themselves there's no reason.

Yeah where he actually he's got the girl, but he doesn't.

Yeah, he's like you guys, you know, you make a run for.

It, and did that really do anything?

No?

But can can Alex?

Can you understand you need to go zig zag, don't run straight?

Are we ever gonna learn this lesson.

This guy did not grow up playing technobile, because no, you gotta have the move man, especially when two guys have scope right right, Yeah, you're not that far away, you know.

I just I questioned his choice.

Mm hmm.

But I feel like I question that choice anytime someone decides to sacrifice themselves for the greater good.

Like even think about like a I know this.

I know recently on Patreon, we did Andrew and I did Ten for two.

We did Sinners, which I'm still saying is the best movie of the year so far.

But there's that moment where Delroy Lindo is like, go on, you guys, get out of here, and then just cuts himself open to just feed the vampires, which did nothing since Remick and the other vampires were waiting from upstairs.

You know, I just we need to do better.

We did this this trope, and it's not that it's it's a bad trope, like.

But making mast it needs to be made sense.

Okay.

Well, yeah, so like Vasquez and Gorman mm hmm setting off the hand grenade in Aliens to take out several aliens and help the survivors.

That makes sense, Yes, it does.

That's a true sacrifice right there.

It makes sense.

Yeah, Donna the Dead, you know the remake where you know, if you're a bit and you know you're not gonna make it and you want to be the do the self sacrificing thing to give the group a chance.

Yea makes sense, it does.

This guy it's smart, you know how they he It looked like he was carrying the little girl.

But couldn't they just stayed together?

Yes, they could have.

Yeah, I don't know, I just we could do better with that trope.

I think one other thing about that scene, great moment because they put they put like three rounds in him and he's still living.

And you know Sean Harris's accomplice, He's like, I'm gonna finish him off.

He's like, not for what he just put us through.

He can he can bleed outright.

But Sean Harris, if he wasn't terrifying enough, has that moment where he leans down and he's like, uh, do you feel that that's that's your nobility hurts?

Doesn't it?

Like I've never seen a villain talk shit to a dying good guy, right because the guy didn't.

You know, typically any other movie, this guy would have you know, had some clever thing to say and then died.

Yep, not, he he gets.

The last thing he hears is Sean Harris talking shit at him and then he dies and I'm like, that's cold, baby's cold.

It is.

Oh man, I'll tell you one more scene before the pivotal moment that I want to talk about.

We talked about Melissa George and how amazing she is in this right her the moment where she has to convince this little girl who does not speak English to climb down the side of the mountain with the harness and this little girl who, you know it doesn't understand what's going on.

Just the the frustration and the hopelessness that is conveyed on Melissa George's face where she's like, you just just do it.

You just listen to me, you know, she what are you gonna do?

You know?

Yeah?

And I can imagine being a situation like that.

I mean that would drive me crazy.

And you can see it on her face and I love that.

Let me ask you, do you you gotta you gotta get an eight year old to safety?

Are you taking are you taking the Croatian girl Anna who doesn't speak English?

Or are you taking catatonic Newt who speaks English.

But is it gonna pay attention or listen to anything you say?

Like, Who's who are you taking down the mountain?

Dave?

Who I should say?

Who are you taking to safety?

You know?

I still I think I'll stick with Nute, You go with Newton, I'll go with Nute.

Yeah, okay, you know.

And proud of me for that decision.

Yeah, that little girl survived a hell of a lot longer with no food and no training.

So yeah, yes, you're right you put her in George.

Great moment.

But Dave, I don't know if we've if we've talked about your pivotal moment.

I'm thinking we have it.

Can I share what I think is the pivotal moment of this movie?

Sure?

Absolutely, let's hear it.

Let's talk about the conversation between Sean Harris's mister kid and uh, the little girl's mafia henchman.

Dad's a guy who's doing the transaction for you know, obviously we got a kidnapped situation happening here.

That scene they have in the coffee shop is where Sean Harris ridiculously good.

Yes, it's too I dare say it's it's almost too good for this movie.

And I apologize, Jillian Gilby, I that's not meant to be a slight.

But this movie, this scene, it's almost too good for this movie.

And it's not just the performances.

It's the dialogue, this story that he shares about the little boy in the Paris job before this one.

I just love the fact that every time you think Sean Harris can't be more scared, he he ups it from its pivotal moment it is.

And is this the because he talks about two kids or three kids, one of them when he let the rats get killed.

Yes, and he still collected the money.

I'm assuming you're talking about the one where the boy bonded with him.

Yes, and then he went out playing football and the kid leaned over to get the football and he turned and shoots him in the back of the head.

Shot in the back of the head.

Yeah, holy crap, man, Because he's like.

I made a mistake once I bonded with with one of the kids, and yeah, you know, and he talks about how the parents thought they were smarter than him and with the suitcase full of shredded newspapers and then yep, absolutely man, this is the best scene.

Yeah.

I couldn't agree more with you on that one.

Yeah, I could not agree more with you on that one.

Yeah.

And I say that thinking like, hey, we've got some incredible action on this mountain.

But you know, we've talked about some great scenes.

We've talked about I think we've identified the pivotal moment.

Let's take one more break, and then when we get back, let's let's talk about what maybe isn't working in this movie.

Absolutely, because I think I think we're both in sync on nothing.

Something right, We'll be right back, Okay, Dave.

So here's the thing.

Would you agree with me that the first two acts first say, I don't know, forty five minutes or so of this film.

Is superb, without question.

Yeah, So what happened in the third act?

This film should have stayed in the wilderness and in the mountains, right film.

It just there's a shift in this movie that didn't shift correctly, and that is them going to the village, the town and you've got this raid thing going on.

The festival, yeah, the Stonehurst Festival, which I know is based off of a real festival.

Yeah, but they go to the they go to the police, and then they the police officers there saying you're getting that vibe that maybe he's in on it, maybe he's not.

And then it just and then the all of a sudden, the killers make it to the to the village like it was no big deal, like they were just right there.

All of that just seemed so convenient and awkward that it just almost ruined the film for me.

It really did well.

Here's here's where the confusion sets in for me.

The third act we introduce almost as many characters as the first two acts have, and it's like, here's the little girl's war criminal father from Serbia.

Here's the mafioso guy that handles his business.

Here's the people that the mafia guys hired to help with the transaction.

Ye, here's the creepy cop who is just for reasons I don't understand, almost menacing, right, Like we're like, I get like, maybe you're wanting to throw throw us for with another misdirection.

Sure, yeah, but he's purposely not calling for help.

And and your star Trek Discovery friend ed is like did you hear him make a call?

Like, what it's been fifteen minutes, what are we still doing?

Here because it's a situation where it's like, ah, yeah, this this festival's going on and I'm the only one here, and we'll call We'll get you some help.

Here, a little girl have some cake.

It's like, why is this guy being so creepy?

He didn't make any sense.

And he's like, oh, I can't let you leave, you know.

They're like they get like, now we're getting the hell out of here.

He's like, Nope, if you're leaving, you're not leaving with her.

And I was like, what are we doing?

Until he gets shot in the face, right, you know, by the you know, the sniper that's working with mister Kidd has commutely showed up.

It's like he knows where they're at.

Yeah, and then okay, now let's be fair.

On the mountain, he's shooting slightly better than a stormtrooper.

Yeah.

And now in town he shoot sharp shooter.

He's a sharpshooter, and he's he's shooting into a dark police station through windows and and nearly and nearly getting him, right, I mean, he definitely you know, gets the cop.

But I just don't understand what's going on here.

And I get it, we don't get our favorite moment, the pivotal moment with with Sean Harris in the cafe.

We don't get that if it's if this doesn't leave the mountain and go into.

Town, but we could just could be somewhere else.

Well okay, but if we're gonna go into town, why are we seeing all of town?

Like we go from like the police station to the alleyway and then you know, hey, Ed's dead and then we're in like some kind of mansion like country home.

Right or the fight rights out and it's on fire, catches on fire.

The firefighters got to drag her out, and it's like, the hell's happening here?

Like what?

And I'm sitting like he does his thing?

Did you notice like that?

It was almost like maybe five seconds of just pitch black.

That was silence, like the screen just stopped.

Yep, And I'm like what I thought something was wrong?

I was like, what happened?

I was like, well I did, I did too.

I was like, uh, did the power?

What happened?

And then it pops back up And then now that the firefighters are there to save, I was like, well, can't end like this?

It feels like the end and all the little girl's fine now and we're heading off in the ambulance.

We get it, we get our happy ending.

But then Serbian war criminal Dad catches Sean Harris who's tried to get away with the money, and now he's gonna get tortured to death.

It's we're going like Casino, like the end of Casino with like yep, strip him, put him in this hole.

We're gonna beat him to death.

I just feel like we had forty five to fifty minutes of incredible storytelling and film yep, and then we went off the rails and I just don't get why, and.

It became a different movie.

I literally felt like I was watching a different movie.

Yes, if I'll tell you right now, if we were sitting here watching this movie for the first time and I got up to go to the bathroom or to go refill my drink and I came back, I would look at you and be like, what are you doing?

Did you turn it back to turn the movie back on?

Like what what's this?

What's this bullshit?

What do you?

I just don't get it, man.

I don't either.

That was my biggest problem with it.

That right there, I I want to tell you something real quick.

I'm not gonna read them, but I do want to share this because for a minute I was like, is it just is it me?

I don't know if Dave is going to agree.

You know, he might think I'm wrong.

Now clearly I know that you're you're you're not thinking that, but I was like, I I don't know about this, and listen to this.

I was on the IMDb mm hm, you know people like to do with their reviews and sure and give some stuff.

Hope it's a kid to name drop people use Robston his title A good effort, but a bit disappointing, and the first sentence.

The movie started off well with an interesting idea, but somehow ran out of steam and commitment Snoopy style, great first hour, Theo Robertson efficient thriller that could have been better, And like, when I read some of these, they all were like, Hey, this is such an awesome movie.

But then somewhere at the end, yeah, it kind of fell apart.

I don't I don't know.

I just I think I don't know why they made that decision.

To be honest with you, but I feel like if you and I were in the writing room together with Wayne and we were just writing this script.

I don't think either one of us would let us go that route because we are saying the same thing, what you what are you doing?

This is taking the whole idea off the rails, and it is.

Even think back to some of some of our screenwriting that we've done in the past.

Even if even if you and I had come to this conclusion that it works, you know, when it's in Wayne's hands and he's he's editing, He's coming, Hey, guys, what happened?

Why are we Why we in this little village with mafia guys and sharp sharpshooters and this weird you know, these creepy demon festival people, Like, what's what's going on?

He would have he would have he would have course corrected us.

He would have this ending.

We're clearly not fans of the ending.

But let's talk, let's talk recommendation.

Let's let's wrap this up.

As I said, it's currently streaming on two B it's free.

I say, see this if for no other reason than for Melissa George's amazing performance.

Dave, despite the ending being a little bit of a letdown, would you recommend this?

Yeah?

Absolutely, just just for the cinematography of the mountains, the climbing, and of course, as you said, Melissa George, she does an incredible job in this film and she is worth watching this film for.

So yes, I recommend it.

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It's no secret while you're here today, thank you?

Yeah, bit youre app producer.

I said, hey, who who you wanna?

Who you want on this episode?

Is David Burns available?

Thinking?

Yeah, he was available last time.

You know, he's you're like the you're like the number one draft pick for for James Buckley, it seems.

Like and I'm okay with that, James, So if you want to continue to keep it throwing me some good films like this, I love watching them talking about them.

So thank you.

I know, I know you're you've been pretty busy, like obviously you do.

Uh, You're doing the Phaser set the Stun with Wayne and Scott.

I know you guys are about to wrap up season three of Strange New Worlds.

Yep, I'm gonna remind you though, I know how I know how busy you are, but I will remind you that we are very close to the fortieth anniversary of the third G I Joe mini series.

We are Pyramid of Darkness.

You're not going to miss that, are you?

No way in hell am I going to miss that?

Jeff will be all right, Yo Joe, Yo Joe.

Uh.

And then at the end of the month, can you tell us what's coming up for a film at fifty on our Patreon?

What are you what Scott doing?

So we decided to go back to Attaka Atka and talk about Dog Day Afternoon.

That is a fantastic film.

Yes, it is looking forward.

To that and Dave, I appreciate you being here for another Patreon requested film from James Buckley, and to all of you out there listening to the show, following us on social media subscribing to the Patreon like James Buckley, we thank you and if you're gonna get on that producer to you like he is, we look forward to what you have in store for us.

We'll see you next time.

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