I'm Brad Coozo, I'm Jeff Johnson.

It's a new season.

It's a different season.

It's a film by podcast.

Okay, so you said different.

What is different about this season?

Here's the thing, Brad.

For six seasons, we have been focused on the underrated movies of some of our favorite directors, and just once, I thought, one season, just one season, can we go after the big movies?

Can we have some fun go after it?

Let's talk about some blockbusters?

Yeah, why not?

Yeah, So we are going to specifically, we're going to celebrate the films of two thousand and one and two thousand and six.

So we're talking about the twentieth anniversaries and the twenty fifth anniversaries and we're gonna have it.

We're gonna have a good time here.

Yeah.

I mean so two thousand and one, I mean that was a year when movies needed to pick me up, and I think we got it with like things like Harry Potter and The Sorcerer's Stone Lord, the First Fellowship of the Rings, Black Hawk, the first Oceans movie, Training Day.

We're talking about them.

We're talking about all of them this season and this season only.

Oh two thousand and six, I mean Daniel Craig.

The you know, the birth of Daniel Craig is James Bond and Cain.

You know, we're talking about Double O seven, and he's not the only iconic character we're talking about, Brad.

Not your libre in two thousand seconds would be not your libre.

I don't know about not your libre, but I do know this.

We are talking about one iconic character today, Brad.

Let's talk about a film by Sylvester Stallone, his two thousand and six entry in the popular Rocky franchise Rocky Balboa.

I think there's just some stuff in a basement basement you here.

I think I wanted like fight, you know, nothing big small stuff like locally?

What are you trying to prove?

Pop?

I thought you might want to get him involved?

Don't you think it too?

It's you know old, I.

Think your brain's losing altitude.

You're right, Rocky Balboa applied for a license.

You want me to find a guy that I can be with both hands high behind my back.

That computer fight got a lot of people curious.

Yeah, but I ain't interested in getting like mangled and embarrassed.

People are gonna think you're going crazy.

What's crazy about standing toteal toad saying, I am.

If this is something that you gotta do, then you do it.

Fighters fight to beat this guy.

You need speed, you don't have it.

You've got calcium deposits on most of your joints.

So sparring is out.

I had that problem.

So what we'll be calling on is blond forest trauma.

Heaving do these punches that was rattling his ancestors.

Let's start building.

So I want you to think about this.

The last time you and I opened in a film by season was twenty twenty three, and that was five years after Sylvester Sloane portrayed Rocky Balboa on the big screen for the final time.

That was That was Creed two.

Yeah, I guess so, yeah, but you're back.

He's back, We're back.

We're all back.

Yeah, the originals.

Yeah, the originals.

There you go.

Let's talk about stallone.

So Bratt listen.

Very talented writer, very talented, very talented, very talented actor, very talented director.

Oh yes, in this film, I believe.

So he took some some kind of visual chances with this.

I thought he pulled off really well.

So how about I give you three things you may not know about Sylvester Stallone and we'll quote him.

Okay, okay.

Now, the Jason Statham starring films Home Front and A working Man Workingman came out last year.

I know you're not the biggest Statham fan, right, but you should know that he wrote both those movies.

I actually just recently found that out doing my research, and it actually really surprised me.

I only saw the one, the home Front.

I didn't know there was two of them.

Yeah.

A working Man, It's it's it's pure stathem.

It's just fun.

Me and my dad love these movies.

We always go it's one of those like remember when we were growing up in the movies for guys who like movies TVs.

A Workingman is one of those movies.

And we're watching it's it opens and then opening credits and they're written by Sylvester Sloane and I was like, what could believe it?

And it actually made me.

It put me on notice.

I was like, I now I'm really watching this movie because now I really want to pay attention to the dialogue in the in the action.

And it's a fun movie.

It's a good movie.

You gotta check it out.

Yeah, I will give it a try.

Did you know that Sylvester Stallone enjoys oil painting as one of his hobbies, citing Leonardo da Vinci as his personal hero.

I didn't know that.

You gotta wonder, like, has he done some oil paintings like of his famous characters?

I think, see, I've seen stuff that he has like around, like you know when he does like interviews and stuff like that.

But I figured that was like, oh, that's a prop from like you know, like the oil painting from like Rocky three and you know stuff like that.

Yeah, that's the thing, like who's a guy's named Marcus Leman Marcus or something like that.

Yeah, I know, Yeah, I love that painting.

But I gotta wonder if he's tried his hand.

At some I think he has.

I bet I bet if we looked into I bet he has.

How badly?

How much would you love to see like a Marion Cobretti oil painting.

I'm sure he has one.

That's the thing, is I bet you he does have one?

All right?

One one more thing?

Can we talk briefly roles?

He was offered and turned down, So Brad, you tell me if we missed out on something great here, Okay, okay.

Nineteen seventy eight he turns down Superman and the role goes to Christopher Reeve.

Okay, good call, good call, right, we would never want to change that, no.

Nineteen eighty one, he turns down the lead role in Arthur, which then goes to Dudley Moore.

Yeah, and he wouldn't have worked for that, could you.

See, like drunk laughing, goofy.

Still, that doesn't work.

All right, this one's gonna put you on.

You're gonna have to think about this one.

Nineteen eighty five he turns down the lead role in Witness, which then goes to Harrison Ford.

Let's see it was nineteen eighty five.

I mean the way that carra Rocky four era.

Yeah, this is Rocky four stallone.

They would have even if he was gotten that part, they would have found some way to turn it into more of a summer blockbuster type of film.

They would want him to be ramped, he would they would want him to be ramble.

I could see him in Kelly McGillis.

So that's a good match.

Yeah, I'm not gonna lie, yeah, all right.

Nineteen ninety he turns down the role the lead role in Pretty Woman, which then goes to Richard Gear.

It's not for him.

You don't think he's just he could Noh, yeah, he could do it.

But I just I just don't think those are the types of roles for him, because he Stallone knows first of all, he knows when an audience wants, and he knows when an audience likes, and he knows how to read an audience really, really well.

And he's had to move through the times, so he had to, you know, by the way he wrote in the seventies, the way he did stuff in the eighties of the nineties, to you know, the two thousands, like he's read the audience so well, and even up to this point for this movie.

All right, listen, I'm I'm with you.

Four for four, I am agreeing with you, but this fifth and final one, I'm wondering if we're gonna agree.

In nineteen ninety seven, he turns down the lead role in Face Off, which then because you're wondering what which one, which then goes to John Travolta.

I think that was a good call of not not doing that, because I think he did Copland that year.

I read it.

I had Copland.

All right, look, okay, well damn it, okay, I listen, Copland is sensational.

You and I.

We we did an episode about it.

Yeah, yeah, we did that one.

Go back and check out our Copland episode that was.

It's a fantastic film.

But in a world where there's no Copland, he's definitely the better pick than Travolta.

Travolta was really overacting in that one, really hamming it up.

Yeah, but they were both able to kind of mimic each other on that.

I don't know how well Stallone's impression of Nicholas Cage would be as opposed to Nicholas Cage's impression of Sylvester Sloan's because they both kind of could riff off of each other.

All right, Well, yeah, we'll never know.

On the Rocky character's legacy, Stallone was quoted as saying, people accept Rocky Balboa as authentic.

I can't tell you how many people have come up to me and asked about my boxing career.

It's like they really want to believe that Rocky exists.

You know, I'm amazed by all this.

At one time, I thought people would get over their fascination with the character.

And move on didn't happen.

After thirty years, Rocky has taken hold to a degree I never could have imagined.

So clearly he said that twenty years ago.

Because this is the fiftieth anniversary.

This year, Rocky, Rocky is turning fifty.

So I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna throw a curball you.

I'm gonna throw left hook at you.

Yeah, South Paul, left hook, All right.

South Paul, left hook.

We typically, I normally i'd ask you like, hey, Brad, you know, for the listeners have that haven't seen or heard of this movie?

You know what, what's this movie all about?

But let's be honest.

This season, we're doing blockbusters, We're doing big movies.

Everyone's heard of this.

So I'm gonna challenge you.

Okay, give me a five give me a synopsis of Rocky Balboa.

But I'm only gonna let you use five words.

Okay, And after you see the movie, you'll understand why these five words.

Stuff in the basement.

Oh that's good.

You know, I thought you would have said something like one last fight for Balboa or something, you know, stuff in the base the stuff in the basement, man, that it could that sounds like a horror film.

Yeah, I guess so.

Yeah, but it also it also is definitely it's one hundred percent of this movie.

Yeah, that's really good.

You know, I thought you'd want to take some time and figure it out, maybe come back to it, but you shot from the hit there, you know.

I just it was.

That's the thing that kind of stuck with me with this movie, is that.

Do you you remember the first time you saw this movie?

Right?

I sure did.

I was home for Christmas vacation and I saw it with you in the movie theater.

Absolutely, Brad, It's it's no big secret.

Rocky bah Ba is my all time favorite movie character.

We've talked our limited series.

When we did nineteen seventy six, we obviously we covered Rocky Dave and Scott, you know they've got the film.

At forty five series, we covered Rocky two.

Yeah, so you know how excited I was to talk about Rocky bou Ba and I don't you know, it's highly unlikely we'll ever get to talk about three or four or you know, the Creed movies.

But right, I'm so excited that you're here.

You know, we saw this movie together.

I remember we came out.

We love this film, right, let's just spoiler.

We're big fans, right, so, I uh, I don't know.

I'm one of the great one of the things I'm so grateful for.

And I think we we we kind of decided this back then in two thousand and six.

This is basically a course correct for the Rocky franchise.

This basically fixes the abysmal Rocky five.

Right, And I believe that's that was Stallone's intention.

And like I said, he he knew we wanted that.

I mean, yeah, yeah, I'm sure it disappointed him, but he knew the audience would have wanted this kind of movie.

This not just this kind of movie, this this kind of ending for Rocky.

Yeah, it's a proper ending.

Yeah yeah, he claimed he did.

He decided to do the film because he quote, you know, I saw a quote from him.

He just wanted people to forget about Rocky five.

Right, A movie is so bad.

He just wants you to forget it, right, And I have.

I've done my very best to forget it.

Yeah, Brad.

He's so unhappy with Rocky five because of what he felt was poor acting, an inaccurate story, very low box office and bad reviews from both critics and fans alike.

I you know this was what nineteen ninety We were pissed when this came out.

Yes, the only thing you need to know, the only thing you know and you know about Rocky five is that he's got to go back to living in Philadelphia.

They make a bad investment, probably makes a bad investment, and they lose a bunch of everybody, and he got some brain damage at a little bit, a little bit of brain damage from Drago.

But that's it.

That's all you need to know.

Here's what's great, though, you you really don't need Rocky five at all.

And here's why.

At the end of Rocky four, I know we're going to go along here, but I'm getting I'm getting loud up now.

At the end of Rocky four, we know that he is no longer the champion, right, he has to relinquish the belt.

That was the deal.

Whether you're watching Rocky four or the much better version, the Rocky versus Drago, the director's got created which is awesome in that they go on a little more into detail about how you know they won't sanction the fight.

If he's gonna go, he will give up the title and he gives up the title.

So Rocky goes to Russia.

No, he's no longer the champion, and so we don't have to worry about him losing the losing the title right right, and then I just like the idea of all these years later, after Adrian passes away, he just he just decided, Hey, I'm gonna I'm gonna move back to the old neighborhood.

That's where I'm comfortable.

You know, He's not gonna roll around that mansion by himself.

So he's got money.

Obviously, he owns and operates his own restaurant in a really nice place.

I think seeing that this is where Rocky ends up, I think it's very it's very fitting for him.

He's, yes, he knows the neighborhood, he loves the people.

He's he's Rocky, you know, he's he's still considered one of the greatest heavyweight champions of the world.

He you know, like I said, he's got that restaurant and you know, it's like almost kind of like a uh Jack Ruby's and the Cincinnati type of like restaurant.

You know, very you know, so he's he's doing really well and you're like yeah.

Adrian's like, oh that's perfect.

You're like, yeah, this is a great place for Rocky to end up.

Yeah, but it's missing one thing.

What thing that he's got to get That thing he's got to get out.

Okay, thing he's got to get out.

Okay, we'll get there.

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We've been talking about Rocky Balboa, the film celebrating its twentieth anniversary this year.

Brad, like I said, we've covered two Rocky films already on this show, so save Uster Sloane playing Rocky bo Boa.

He's fifty nine years old at the time of filming.

I gotta tell you, man, I just that blows my mind.

He looks he looks fantastic.

Well what I what I like about you don't when he becomes Rocky, you don't see Sylvester Stallon.

He lets himself become this kind of goofy.

And if he also notice too, when he's Rocky, Rocky's always moving.

Rocky's always moving his shoulders.

He's always got that kind of thing, like he's in the ring.

He's always he's always kind of doing that.

He's always moving the the awful jokes.

You know, he's just he's so comfortable being that character that he doesn't Yeah, he doesn't.

He's fit.

He just fits it so well, like he's just so comfortable.

So you can tell that like he missed playing Rocky this way.

You know, we kind of got a little way once we got to Rocky three and four, it became a little bit of Rocky was more a little didn't seem like the bowbo from the first film.

Well, the time you get he this seems like this is the bow ball from the first at least the first kind of two films, that lovable guy, you know, that lovable guy that we loved.

That's fair though, because in the eighties, you know it, it's all about excess, right, It's all about big, fast, like music video style action.

So Sylvester Sloane knew that.

That's why he had to change the format for Rocky three and four, because he knew what an audience wanted.

He pivots and he's and he's smart to do it.

He trained six months to get back into fighting shape.

And again the more I watch this, uh, I'm just amazed.

And I love the fact that you know, you're talking about going back to like the basics, like the original look of Rocky.

You know, he does have a little more size to him, you know, he's two seventeen.

Normally Rocky's fighting weight is like two o two, so he's a little bit bigger's a little bit heavier.

I like but I like it.

I think it's I think it's phenomenal that slone was able to climb into the ring, believably climb into the ring at fifty nine and us not go, this is ridiculous.

He you know, like the line would murder him, right, he.

Thinks, he thinks like a he thinks like an audience member.

He knew that too.

That's why he trained for six months.

I mean, Stalloon's always been in shape, but he knew that the audience has got to believe that I'm in the ring with this real professional fighter at my age.

So I mean, yeah, that's why he you know, he did the work.

And then I mean some of the stuff in the with the exception of the throwing of the kegs of beer, some of that stuff's training stuff that he does lifting weights, is I think all him.

It's got to be.

It's got to be.

Let's talk about Antonio Tarver.

He's playing the adversary Mason the line Dixon.

Before we get into a little bit about him.

Your thoughts on on the line, like is is is this a good uh?

Where?

You know, we've seen clubber Lang, We've seen Ivan Drago, Apollo Creed, what do you where do you put Mason the line Dixon is he?

You know?

I think it's a good character because it's a very rare, realistic character.

You know what happens.

And even Slone said something that he kind of based Antonio Tarvor on kind of how he took a lot of advice from others that turned out to be the wrong kind of advice towards his career.

Oh wow, I didn't know.

And yeah, so I felt that character was very believable because yeah, they all get big and then what if it's like people think you're a chump because you know you're And I remember thinking like, yeah, Mike Tyson used to just knock out like people after like a round and a half, you know, and just be like this is just such a waste.

So I got it that he wanted to be like I can I Am I really something?

He's asking the same questions that Rocky asks himself.

Am I deserving of this?

Yeah?

So let's talk boxing.

Antonio Tarvor takes this role after boxing great.

Roy Jones Junior refuses to answer Stalone's calls.

Stalone calls him like thirty times to say, hey, you know, and Roy Jones Junior, he's one of the he's one of the all time greats.

But he's just not interested in doing this, so Antonio Tarvor gets the job.

Brad Tarvar has won multiple titles, becoming the WBC, the WBA, IBF, and Ring Magazine Light Heavyweight Champion of the World.

He also held the IBO light Heavyweight and Cruiserweight titles, which unified the belts when he knocked out none other than Roy Jones Junior.

Okay, I think we got the right guy in the ring.

A couple other things about this guy, the chance.

You know what I love about this You mentioned earlier you said, like, hey, Sloan takes some chances with like the cinematagraphy, and I'm I'm assuming that you're alluding to the fact that we're we're like shooting thirty five millimeter but in the fight scenes it's high def HBO ringside.

I thought that was so neat.

You literally are in that mode.

It transports you into that mode of you're watching a fight on HBO.

Watch.

Yeah, and it's i mean, the way they got, the way it's filmed.

He does it so good you wouldn't know the difference.

So you got you know, Mason Dixon, his his team, they're all holding up his his multiple titles.

But right in the movie, Brad, those championship belts are his actual real life belts.

Yeah.

I think that's awesome.

I mean, that's this is one This has been deemed one of the most realistic Rocky films of all time, and it's stuff like that that does it for us.

Yeah.

Tarvor, who's obviously you know, he's a he's a he's a champion as pro.

You know, he was the champion at the time of filming.

Uh so he only trained for five weeks, but he did have to put on another twenty five pounds before before the movie.

Yeah, I mean, you got you remember he's light heavyweight champion, he's cruiserweight.

He's got to put a little size on to go up against.

Stallone's two on camera.

Yeah, and it's like, Okay, we got to at least believe that you're my size.

Yeah, I mean, and we're used to like Rocky films where they they look like action figures.

You know a Paul.

You know, Carl Weathers looked incredible in the first Rocky and the second Rocky.

So when people I've had people say, well, you know, the guy just I don't know if he looked all that big and all that that imposing.

Well, that's because he's a cruiserweight and he put packs on twenty five pounds, so he's gonna look a little undefined.

He's gonna look a little little doughey.

But he had to put on the weight, you know, to make it believable.

Here's one thing, you know, he's obviously he's he's the adversary to Rocky Baba.

And in true antagonistic fashion, filming of the fight scene was delayed by Tarvor until he was guaranteed a higher salary.

And you got to keep in mind they shoot the fight scene at the beginning of the movie while Stallone is in his prime shape.

That way the rest of the movie he can he can direct, he doesn't have to stay so jacked, right, right, So you know, Stallone says, all right, fine, stillne gives up a significant amount of his salary to Tarvor to make this happen.

Well, I mean, I remember I was working at a bar.

I was bartending at a bar when the that we had whatever fight that went on.

After they filmed this fight I was working that they had to like the bar was working at were showing that pay per view fight and I was very busy time, and I remember people kept saying like, Oh, they're filming a Rocky movie here and stuff like that, and I was just so busy.

But I remember that them saying they were filming a Rocky movie, but I never got to look up and see it.

You're talking about the Bernard Hopkins fight.

Yeah, where I was working, they were playing it on TV.

It was like it was one of the pay per view fights and uh so we were charging a cover charge.

But and the background I could hear like, oh, yeah, we're doing the Rocky bout thing and stuff like that, and I thought that was just really cool.

It was like, oh yeah, I was I remember when they were filming that.

You know what, that that's gonna lead me to something.

So I'll tell you what.

Let's just jump into the a little bit of insight in the film's background.

Brett, I'm gonna I'm gonna you know, you know, I love Rocky, so I'm gonna try to contain myself.

But because I got I got a lot here, but uh, you know, I know you've got some stuff too.

Let me start off with this.

In nineteen ninety nine, still unhappy with the failure of Rocky five, Slide makes the decision to give the Rocky franchise a proper ending, like we talked about, right, But it takes six years to get the studio to green lighted.

Well, I mean stallone once once like two thousand hit wasn't the biggest bankable as far as movie stars.

So I can see it, and I can also see the disappointment that they're like, no, look, look what happened with us with Rocky five?

You know, Oh gosh, yeah.

So it had been so you said, from the Rocky five till this film was what sixteen years.

Something like that, So I mean a long time.

Ye.

All the other ones like a couple of years, you know, stuff like that, but this one was a long time.

So the revival kind of trend of reviving things, you know, even though somebody is maybe too old for it.

This was before that kind of trend kind of came back, you know, before the Jamie Lea Curtis is coming back for Halloween, and you know, the guys from Star Wars coming back is like he did this kind of early.

That's a good point.

You're talking about the legacy sequel where we kind of we kind of ignore what's happened and we just we bring the original back.

Yeah.

I mean, i'd say once, once you hit that ten year mark between sequels, it's like, all right, then that's that's too long unless that was the actual intention.

So you're reviving at least that and that.

And I think you you I don't know this for sure, but you would not have those Creed films if it wasn't for this film.

You can't have the Creed films without this film.

You're absolutely right, And that's a spectacular franchise on its own.

Sage Stallone doesn't he doesn't reprise his role as Rocky's son Robert, and I was kind of fascinated when I found out why, because you know, he had played he'd played Robert what once or twice?

I think I think Baby Rocky was actually Sage Yeah and then but uh yeah, yeah, well yeah, he's the he's that punk kid, you know, he's the brat.

Let's just call it what it is yeah, you know, but that's that's the character.

That was the character he was playing.

And then I think he was like you know when they when you see him as a toddler and like Rocky three or you know, you see him as a baby.

I think that might have been him too.

But anyways, because the character Robert I'm talking about Rocky son, because the character believes he is quote unquote living in his father's shadow, and this film does deal with some serious personal family conflict, Selene was concerned that the public would read too much into that and think that there's something going on between him and his actual son, so he recast the part with Milo Vendemiglia.

And it's partially due this guy gets the job because he has similar facial features to Rocky.

And as I'm sitting there watching it last night or the other night, I'm watching his face and I'm like, is he doing that on purpose or is that just I'm like, how the hell did they get his I mean it was you would not, you know, think that these two were not related to each other or not fathering his son.

They you know, and the fact that he's a trained actor I think just made it so much better.

And absolutely, and I love that.

I mean because his actual name is Rocky Junior.

So now we're saying that he wants to go by Robert.

He wants to stay away from that Rocky persona, you know, so he's he's trying to be Robert, you know now, not Rocky Junior.

Uh, you taught you kind of highlighted the fact that this fight that you were working, you know, you know, you're working that night there you're watching the actual fight that uh that's going on where hey, Rocky's in town.

So all feasible locations for this fight were already booked by real events.

Stallone has the idea, Hey, let's you know, there's a pay per view event going on at the mandele A Resort Casino in Las Vegas.

You know, that's the Bernard Hopkins Jermaine Taylor fight that you you were you got to see brad by the way, Hopkins lost his title in a very controversial split discay.

So you can tell that, you know, the fans are already the crowd's already riled up.

And then oh yeah, but here's what's here's what's awesome.

They were not instructed to stand up and chant Rocky yeah, they did it naturally when they see stallone walking towards the ring.

What awesome is that?

Oh?

Yeah, I would, I absolutely would.

I got a question for you.

Tell me if this makes sense.

The film was sent to theaters, you know, like directors like to use like code names.

Yeah, Blue Harvests, you know stars.

Is the one that comes to mind.

Rocky Balba went out to theaters under the code name Nobody Parties.

Okay, okay, you know it's a It's a name perfect for it because no one would ask any questions.

They'd be like that, that doesn't sound interesting at all.

Let me ask you, Let me ask you a feeling on this.

Uh.

This is the only Rocky movie where the famous red, white and blue trunks are not worn, the only one.

And I think it was good to put him to rest.

I think it was good that he drago finished him off, you know, Okay, I think that even though I think Yo, I forgot Rocky five, he gave it them.

It's always it's always fun in the the older Rocky movies where we get some cameos by real boxers, yes, you know, who are playing themselves.

Here we get Mike t Mike Tyson's ring side, you know, talking trash to Yeah, so all his all his uh his lines are ad libbed in the moment, mm hmm, which surprises me because, Uh, when I met Mike Tyson last year, he he was he was very tight lipped.

He had he had very little to say.

Oh, nothing to say.

If he's listened, I'm you know, no, you know yeah.

And I think here's the thing is that when that Jake Paul Mike Tyson fight happened, I really was hoping it would be a Rocky Balboa type of fight the way it was in this movie.

And wow, was I disappointed?

Yeah, well at least.

But that's what I was literally hoping for.

I was like, oh, I want to see I want to see the old champ get back in there, you know.

And I would have loved that absolutely.

But let's say he should have trained like Stallone trained.

He should have but you're talking about the old champs.

Uh, this is interesting.

Let's let's talk about this.

So, when it was announced that Stallone was writing a new Rocky film, Tommy Morrison, who played Tommy Gunn in Rocky five, attempted to contact Stallone about reprising his character, and those calls went unanswered.

Brad didn't there was no place for him.

There's no place for him.

Minute, it's I'm glad.

But it's interesting that you say there's no place for him, because I do want to talk quickly about the original script and how it was.

People are shoehorned into this thing.

The original script is called Rocky six Puncher's Chance.

Yep, now you know that you know the stuff about Adrian.

Correct.

Yeah, So in the original script, she was still alive and Robert was away in the Air Force.

But it just wasn't having that emotional kind of like no pun intended punch that that the film needed.

So they they both both tali Shire and Sewstillone, agreed that she would be killed off, and they wanted everyone to know that there there was no hard feelings.

It wasn't because she was just written out stone her and got to fight.

She publicly went out and supported Stallone killing off Adrian.

I did not know that.

I knew that she wanted.

She wanted the fans to know that it wasn't like a conflict of interest.

She goes for that story, she goes, Adrian needed to be dead, and I think after seeing it, Yeah, and it works for this film.

It does.

You can't have you wouldn't.

He wouldn't need to fight if she was alive, he wouldn't.

He definitely wouldn't fight.

Yeah, and you know we don't need her going.

You don't need to do this.

You can't wait.

You know we don't need that anymore.

So good choice.

Let me let me throw this at you again the original script.

Other notable characters included clubber Lang as a ringside commentator who would have been making negative comments about Rocky during the fight.

I could have went for that.

I think I could have went for that.

Yeah, here's what I here's what I can't go for.

And I'm so glad this got This one got cut and you probably know about this one.

Unbelievably, there was a scene where Rocky visits Ivan Drago in the hospital and Drago is in the hospital because he's dying of aids due to steroid abuse like sharing needles, and Rocky allegedly tells a nurse if he dies, he dies, which is the very line that Drago offers about Apollo and Rocky four that I don't know about that.

That's not Rocky, what was Rocky?

Babo would never say that.

He would never do that.

Yeah, speaking of Apollo though, I don't know if you noticed this, because we get some really cool flashbacks in this film, you know, just to turn up that nostalgia.

But uh, you won't see Apollo Creede in any of these flashbacks.

And it feels wrong, honestly.

Uh.

And the reason being sadly is that Carl Weathers had filed a lawsuit against Loan and MGM over alleged unpaid royalties from previous Rocky films.

So the producers were told, you are absolutely not allowed to use his image or likeness in any way.

And that's that's just sad.

You know, it bumms me out that it ended that way between.

Its showed business, you know, I mean.

And but I don't think any of the flash if you're up to Rocky Balboa, Yeah, we don't need any flashbacks.

We've gone We've gone through the whole spirit.

We're not just like, oh I went one to uh six, No, no, no, no, we went through this whole thing.

I'm caught up.

Here's one that fascinates me.

The film.

You know, we've talked about this is the most realistic boxing we've seen.

One reason for that can be attributed to sound, the sound design in the previous Rocky films, the sound effects for the punches, and this is gonna blow your mind.

I think they use shotgun blasts.

I believe that broken bottles, chains and baseball bats hitting wet leather now, that one, I definitely believe.

Uh, you know what they used for the punching sounds in this one.

It was something very basic.

Yes, actual punching sounds.

Yeah, just actual like punching sounds.

They just recorded boxers getting punched.

That's that's it.

The thought.

And if you've noticed on the Rocky four Drago versus Rocky versus Drago, the punches or the original Rocky for the punches, yes, sounded like shotguns when like Drago would hit.

I mean it was just like it was.

It was a little much.

Now he has put in real punches and it makes it it It doesn't really take away the ferocity of Drago, but it just it feels a little bit more realistic.

I saw Dolph Lungern last month in person, and he's still he can play Drago right now.

Yeah, And I'm telling you right now, if he punched someone, I would expect a shotgun blast.

Yes, whatever he hits, he.

Travages eighteen hundred and fifty pounds.

Brad.

Yeah, whatever he hits, he this throws this true.

Stallone has confirmed that this film is his favorite movie.

He has been quoted as saying, I sat around for six years trying to make that film, and when it came out, I was so proud of it because of what we had to go through to get it done.

It his favorite Rocky film over the first one.

That surprises me.

I'd say it's my second favorite over the first one because it's so it's so true to Rocky and just yeah, and you can just tell he loves playing this character.

He loves being Rocky.

It's just a chance for him to be so much have so much fun.

We're gonna take another break, but when we come back, we're gonna talk about the scene.

Brand I know there's a scene you want to discuss.

There's a scene I want to discuss.

I want to know what scene you want to talk about, But more importantly, why you chose it?

You know, is it because of the cinematography, is it because of a strong performance?

Is it the pivotal moment?

You know, we've talked about pivot moments plenty of the r But what scene you want to talk about?

Mine is my still my favorite scene from when I first saw it.

It is when he goes and he visits Polly at the uh the meat packing plant, and you know, that's when he tells Polly he's thinking about fighting again, you know.

And Paullie, you know is what you haven't peaked yet.

And Stallone, you know, And as soon as Paulie mentions a scene, you know, a quick line is because Adrian died or because Adrian left.

You are making just because Adrian left you?

Yeah, and Stallone just turns into this emotional just machine, which I think is some of his best writing and best acting I've ever seen him.

It's so authentic and you can so relate to him, and you feel for him so bad and you want him And if if by this point you want don't want him to get in the ring, then then turn this movie off because you want this for him so bad.

And you see why he's you know, going through that, and the fact that he even reaches Pauli, which is hard to do, you know, and he's like, calm down, Rocky because he knows what what Rocky can do you know.

So I think that of course Bilkanti's music during it helps that great beautiful score, but that for me is I think that kind of sums up, you know, besides the five words, like that kind of sums up his purpose in that film, and it is just back to I just want to you know, I've got to get this out, you know.

And it also kind of goes back to that some of that stuff and like Rocky for like we're the gladiators, We're we have to do this because we're the warriors, and you know type of things.

So I think that one was my favorite.

I remember seeing that in the theater and it really it choked me up watching it, you know.

So, so I think that's a great, fantastic scene.

You're choosing this scene basically for the for the performance.

Right the performance in the fact that you you you really get down to Rocky in that scene.

He really lets himself completely become vulnerable with the way he breaks down.

It's like he finally just kind of gives in and you see this, you know, giant warrior turn into this very hurting man.

You're we're talking about stuff in the basement.

Uh, it's it's stallone going for it.

Uh, maybe, Brad, this is the scene I wanted to talk about as well.

So it's it's it's maybe his best acting in the franchise.

Rocky is in such monumental pain.

It's heartbreaking to watch.

You can't watch this scene and not get joked up a little bit and and just feel for this guy because for years we've seen him endure physical pain, but this is emotional pain.

You know.

He can handle the physical pain, he can handle.

That, yeah, but the loss of his wife and the alienation of his son has created this this anger inside him, and it's fueled by just incredible loneliness.

And you know, he he turns to the only thing he knows, which is fighting.

Yeah, And to see him have that that gleam in his eye and he's kind of excited and just to see people just try to knock him down, you know, it's like, yeah, yeah, you have beaked, you have it beaked.

You know.

His son is like, come on, what do you what are you trying to prove?

Bob?

Yeah, the Boxing Commission is like he you know, he runs to the battery of tests.

He's he flying, Yeah, you're flying colors.

You're He's like, okay, but we're not going to give you the license.

That's like real quick.

You know, Stone has two amazing well the stuff in the basement notwithstanding, right, he's got two other amazing monologues.

I'm gonna ask you, you know, let's go versus his monologue, his angry monologue against the boxing commission.

But we're just looking at for your interests.

I appreciate that, but maybe you're looking out for your interest just a little bit more.

I mean, you shouldn't be asking people to come down here and pay the freight on something they paid.

It's still like good enough.

I mean, you think that's right.

I mean, maybe you're doing your job, but why are you gotta stop me from doing mine?

Because if you're willing to go through all the battling you got to go through to get to where you want to get, who's got the right to stop you?

I mean maybe some of you guys got something you never fitted, something you really want to do, somebody you never said to somebody something and you're told no, even after you pay your dues.

Who's got the right to tell you that?

Who?

Nobody?

It's your right to listen to your gut it ain't nobody's right to say no after you earn the right to be where you want to be, a do what you want to do?

Is it?

It's that one versus putting Robert in line when he's like, you know the world in all sunshine and rainbows.

Let me tell you something you already know.

The world ain't all sunshine and rainbows.

It's a very mean and nasty place.

And I don't care how tough you are.

It will beat you to your knees and keep you there permanently if you let it.

You me or Nobody's gonna hit as hard as life.

But it ain't about how hard you hit.

It's about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward.

How much you get take and keep moving forward.

That's how wind it has done.

Now, if you know what you're worth, now go out and deal what's you're worth.

But you gotta be willing to take the hits and not pointing fingers saying you ain't where you want to be because of him or her or anybody.

Cowards do that, and that ain't you.

You're better than that.

My question to you, Brad, which out of those two, which one which what's the better monologue.

Which one gets you?

I don't know, because they both got good, good shots, you know, like he's like, why would you have me go through all those tests if you weren't even gonna give me?

You know, the stuff that the way he worked in that little thing of like I held you just like this, And then you're like, yeah, is he just being rocky?

Just kind of being rocky?

And then he kind of goes and the way where it ends, and I'm like, I don't know.

Like I said, there's there's the meat packing one, there's the boxing commission scene, there's the scene with Robert.

I mean, there's a even a few more good scenes, you know, when he visits trying to catch him at work and stuff like that, and he just feels so out of place.

There's a lot of good scenes with those two.

Maybe the body model maybetle angry.

Yeah, all right, yeah, I'm I'm undecided.

It's gonna have to go to the judges.

It's a split decision if it's one for me.

Bred new thing we're gonna do this season.

By the numbers, well, it's talk about the budget, the box office.

I'm kind of ranking and I think I think you already I think you already tipped your hand on the ranking.

But we'll get to it here in a second.

So for those wondering, Rocky Ba Ba was released on December twentieth, two thousand and six.

Brad and I were there that weekend.

Estimated budget of twenty four million.

It's the fourth Rocky film directed by Sylvester Saloon.

Despite a Wednesday release, it finished third in its opening weekend.

Behind you want to take a guest.

Brad, two thousand and six, towards Christmas.

Christmas two thousand and six.

It won't surprise you when I tell you, is.

It not your libre?

No, it is not not your libre.

I take a chet.

It is.

It is night at the Museum.

That first one, it was a that was a juggernaut.

You know that that opening first in second place was hold Over the Pursuit of Happiness.

Did you ever see that?

Will Smith?

No?

I never saw that one.

It's a good film.

It's not better than Rocky Biboa.

But like I said, twenty four million, worldwide gross of one hundred and fifty six million, you better believe Creed's coming.

We're making a whole new yeah, whole new run at this rank this though, Brad, where do you rank this film in the franchise Creed Films?

Notwithstanding, but right behind I would go Rocky one, Rocky Balboa, Rocky two, Rocky Rocky four.

Yeah, all right, yeah, that's how I'd go.

I've got Rocky Balboa second overall, just like you, and it's right after Rocky, so I'm definitely I'm with you.

Rocky is the best, Rocky Bubbo second best.

There's one thing when I don't I'm sure you did it as well as I did, is that we did probably a little Rocky marathon, you know, oh Gosha.

And every time it comes to the end of the that the final notes of that Bill Conte music of ding d you know that plays at the end of the first film, the end of the second film.

In the end of this film, I got chills goosebumps every time.

Every time they did it, that little bit it's still will give me goosebumps.

I'm like everyone in every time that he did that, it was the ending of the film.

I got chills every time.

I'm happy to say.

This morning, when I hit the gym, it was to my very new playlist Spotify playlist, and it was all rocky music.

I never felt better.

Yeah, this movie trailer trailer too.

I got to give you credit for something.

We're we're getting ready for Rocky Balboa, and you asked me, hey, are we are we doing Rocky Balboa the theatrical cut?

And I'm like, what the hell are you talking about?

What?

What else would we do?

And you're and then you you you basically tell me there's a there's a Rocky Balboa director's cut.

Right.

So we we had talked probably like maybe a month before that this was going to be one of the ones that we did.

And I was going through some movies on like you know, the Prime list, just kind of scan and browse it and I see this and I put it on my watch list.

I'm like, I'll save that because I didn't know about it either, you know, I don't think it has ever been released on physical media.

So I put it on the my watch list and that's why I mentioned it.

But then I was like, let me check it because it was, you know, it was like that was a while ago.

And I checked and it said not even to pay to rent, unavailable like you could pay to But I took a chance and I was like, I wonder if Apple TV has it, because I remember that's how I saw The Rocky Versus Drago, And sure enough they do have it.

Apple TV has the Ultimate Director's Cut with about I want to say, fifteen or twenty minutes extra.

This movie is so damn good, and yet this it's the ultimately.

It's called the Ultimately.

Cut, right, it's the Ultimate Director's cut.

The Ultimate Director's cut.

It a movie that was already so damn good, is exponentially better theatrical versus directors Cut or the Ultimate Director's Cut.

I gotta be honest with you.

This version much more character driven.

There's emotional depth that you just you don't see in any of the other films as far as I'm concerned.

Yeah, then there's no like, there's no throwaway and it.

You know, just because I've seen this film more than a few times, I knew when the new scenes were but you can't tell from any kind of editing, You can't tell from any kind of film stock.

I mean, it flows perfectly, and it was nice to kind of see this again, but you know, some new stuff.

Yeah, So I did a little digging.

Stallone wanted to create a version that was more tonally consistent with the first two Rocky films that leaned on dramatic and emotional beats rather than the spectacle of Oh, it's an old fighter climbing into the ring.

It's it's just an incredible film.

Listeners you've got if you're going to watch this, you gotta check out.

You got to go to Apple TV.

You got it.

You know.

I rented it for three ninety nine.

You can buy it from fourteen nine.

Brad, I looked on Amazon.

You can buy it, but it's going to cost you like sixty bucks.

I guess it had a limited run on physical media, and now it's already, you know, hard to find.

I want to I want to talk about the key differences and then give me your take, you your quick take on it.

Uh, So I got I there's three things I noticed.

First off, there's a major emphasis on Polly and uh and little Marie.

So so for the first time, I think we see Poully as a remorseful, sad, lonely individual that just wants to make amends.

Uh.

That scene in the back alley of Adrian's.

The restaurant, Yeah, when he gets like a.

Yeah, he's and he's crying.

He's like, I missed my sister.

Why?

Why why am I here?

Why?

Why did she have to?

You know, I loved it.

What do you think about Poulie in this movie?

Like the different like the director's cut.

I'm saying where.

I liked the direction that Paullie went as opposed to just I felt like he was kind of becoming just a little comic relief after a while.

Yeah, but his comedic moments in this are few, but genuine.

Yes.

You know when he does make one, you know, he's good and I like that he's and it's one of the scene.

I think the scene that we were discussing is a little bit longer because he's saying, he's like, this is where I am.

You know, he's he's he's good with that.

I work at the meat plant.

Now I'm doing okay.

He's got a girlfriend.

You find out a girlfriend.

You never knew that Paulie had a girlfriend.

The entire time.

We had no idea.

So it's just when he's feeling a little good about himself is when he just gets knocked back down, and that's when he feels that got a lot of heart and when he just he just tells you got a lot of hard going back in that ring, you know, more scenes with the thing he says to him right before he gets into the ring too.

It's just he's more you like Polly Moore in this movie.

You gotta like him in this one.

Yeah, more scenes with Marie.

I think that.

I think it develops the relationship with her and Rocky a little more clarifies, you know, because in the theatrical cut, it's just like they meet and then all of a sudden she's working there and all of a sudden she's flying to Vegas with him.

It just felt a little choppy, little rush.

But this version, there's there's some more moments with them, and it kind of we we get to see their their friendship build, and I think I think you need it.

What'd you think of the extra scenes at Adrian's grave.

I mean it showed where he is in his life, Like you said, like when he tells an audience member probably watching us would almost kind of want the little Marie and you know Rocky character to maybe you know, get together.

But like he says, he goes, you know, my wife's gone, but she ain't gone.

You know, He's I don't see Rocky ever, you know, trying to.

He just he's just a lonely guy.

That and like you said, is why do you gotta because you know, you're you're asking yourself at the same time, why is he being so nice to her?

Why is he being so nice to her?

And then he tells her and she said, why are you being so nice to me?

Why do you gotta Why do you gotta owe somebody something?

To do nice for him?

He just wants to.

It just seems like the right thing to do.

Yeah, why you got to o and give Yeah the extra scene at Adrian's grave where you know, I think we're really getting into we're exploring like grief.

I love that we kind of touch on Rocky's relationship with God a little bit.

Yep.

Again, very poignant moment.

And I wish they would have kept it, I know, I know we needed for the theatrical cut to have it a little more fast paced, you know, that's what people want to see in the but but damn, it's a it's a shame that they they they lost this one.

But now you know it's not lost.

You know, watch the ultimate director's cut.

You know, again, like I said, Rocky three, Rocky four, they're slick fast, they're charged with eighties XS.

The pacing of this one intentionally slows things down to match the dramatic beats of the first film.

So if you love Rocky, if you love Rocky two, you have to love the ultimate director's cut of Rocky Boboa.

I think, yeah, And like I said, it's just like there was.

It almost like he listen to the fans.

Yes, you know, it's like why you heard us, you know, And you know he knew that one of the favorite things was like the black trunks, so he threw out the black trunks.

You know, they were like brought back the tiger.

Yeah, So I mean there was he knew what this movie needed to appease, not movie fans, Rocky fan.

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Any other season we'd be talking about I'd ask you like, hey, we've been talking about this underrated film.

What three movies would you suggest by this director?

But we're gonna change it up this season.

Brad so, written by, directed by, or starring, Which underrated project would you suggest for Silvester Saaloone if someone was asking you.

Now, it's not so much underrated, but I think the film gets a little bit of a bad rap.

And that film is Cliffhanger, you know, And Cliffhanger was partially written by Stallone.

And if you really think about Cliffhanger, that is how you make an action movie.

That's that's an action movie.

That's exactly what you're ext expecting, exactly what you get out of it sometimes a little bit, you know, sometimes a little bit more.

It doesn't doesn't age, you know, and it's you can buy it, you know, you can buy it.

It was all its die hard on a Mountain.

I'm like, well, it's not really die hard.

On a mountain.

It's just hard.

Yeah, But it's I think and that and the fact that that being nineties is that he showed that he's like, I can stand up against the lethal weapons, the die hards and stuff too.

And I think he doesn't get enough credit for kind of the stuff that that movie required to get made and what he got out of it.

I mean some great shots and let's I mean the beginning is just he goes balls out.

You and I were teenagers when that came out.

We were working together, m I you know we're I remember taking a girl.

I think we both dated her at different times.

Obviously.

I took her to see Cliffhanger and that opening where he turns around snatches and you know, he catches the girl by one arm.

That girl gripped my my hand so tightly and leaned over and I said, relax, it's Sylvester Stallone, He's gonna save her.

And then thirty seconds later she falls and that girl looked at me like you you jerk, Like she was so mad like like that, and I don't get it, like it's not.

Like I, Hey, no, we didn't expect that coman yet, no one who.

Could have expected he was gonna drop her.

Yeah I didn't.

I didn't take her out after that.

I think I think you did, maybe, but probably, But.

I mean Stallone has so many in a like, I mean, of course, I can you know me.

I talked Cobra like crazy and Cobra yeah, and if Stallone, if you're listening, if you would like to do it another ultimate directors cut, Cobra needs one because we know you directed that film.

Secretly, we can.

Come on Cosmotos is gone.

We can we can be honest.

Now, now you a big Saloon fan, and with all the movies that you've seen of him, you're underrated, whether by performance, his writing, his direction.

What do you think he should tell you?

So you you chose Cliffhanger, which he you know that's a written by and a starring I'm gonna give you a written by, starring and directed by nineteen seventy eight Paradise Alley.

I've heard that's very underrated.

You so you haven't seen it.

I haven't seen it.

I haven't seen it.

I don't know if it's streaming anywhere.

I know that there's a got Quentin Tarantino's book, and it's a huge section on Paradise Alley and how much he loves it.

I'm gonna tell you.

I'm gonna tell you why I love it.

Just I'm gonna give you one sentence and you know me brat So you're gonna be like, oh, of course, now I get it.

H Paris al If you haven't heard of this one, Basically, it's about three Italian brothers in nineteen forties, Hell's Kitchen New York trying to make it big in the rising popularity of wrestling.

Now that's got you all over it.

It does, cause I want to give you a cast.

I want to run down the cast for you real quick.

So you got Stalloon.

You got his longtime buddy Frank McCrae.

He uh, you know, lock up, and you know he's always like the angry police captain, you know.

Oh yeah, okay, okay, yeah yeah.

Armanda Sante plays one of the brothers.

Huh yeah, and yeah, this is nineteen seventy eight.

These people are babies at this point.

You got Ann Archer.

You got another longtime collaborator and best friend, Joe Spinell, Tom Waits.

And how about a couple of unknown then unknown wrestling superstars Terry Funk, King Hakou and the million and the million Dollar Man, Ted deb.

A million dollar man, I remember him, the million Dollar Man.

Tell me you don't want to rush right out and see Paradise Sally, After I told you all that.

It's it's one that I heard that I do need to see, and it's it's I mean that the film that he basically did, I think right after Rocky Yeah, yeah, yeah, before he even Rocky Too.

So this is yeah, this is right before he does this one, right before Rocky Too.

I think he does Fist and Paradise Sally and then he does Rocky two.

Brad, obviously we recommend this film.

Yeah, I mean, this is this is the sendoff that I think Rocky gets.

I know you're a big fan of the Creed movies.

I think the first one's okay, but I really wanted a more happier kind of life for Rocky.

You know, after the fight in Rocky Balboa that you know, he still didn't really talk to us son and stuff after that.

So I just I felt that this one was a perfect kind of ending for it, and then Creed was just what it was.

But the fact that he got nominated for an Oscar for Creed and not for this is a little ridiculous.

It is, but think about this.

He's nominated the character Rocky Balboa.

He's nominated for it for Best Actor and Best Supporting Actor.

Yeah.

That's that's I think that's impressive, absolutely amazing movie.

You can't, like I said, you can't rent it.

Please just go to Apple TV watch the Ultimate Director's cut.

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It's it's not so much like in space no one can hear you scream type of thing, you know, kind of you know if okay, if I was to give you Chinatown five words.

Chinatown of five words, Detective, Uncover, Scandal and Incest.

Okay, that's what.

Well, I just thought, Hey, let's have some fun with our listeners.

Let's give them a chance to come up with these five word synopsis, you know, kind of kind of do the work for us, you know, and if we do, hey, we're gonna you know, we're gonna shout you out.

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Will it be made?

Today?

And in January we are starting off with, as you already heard, the probably the heavyweight champion of screenplays Chinatown and so we're going to be going through that, So look for a script by a limited twelve episode series twelve you know, twelve one each month.

So I'm very excited for it.

It's going to be a little bit different of a show, a little more analytical, but still with laughs, with charm in the same film by attitude.

This sounds incredible and if you're taking suggestions, I've got plenty.

We'll have to talk off Mike.

But in the meantime, to all of you listening to the show, following us on YouTube and social media, and subscribing to our Patreon, we thank you.

M m m m uh.

This month uh on Patreon, we're doing Martin Scorsese's The Departed?

Should I?

I don't have to ask, do I?

Yeah?

You're you're in?

Yeah?

You know you wor go fund yourself?

Yeah?

Oh boy,