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All right, John Middlecoff and I we got a lot to talk about.

We may slip in some Oregon Penn State and Ryder Cup in about an hour.

Yeah, let's start with the big game of the day.

Let's break down six or seven big games.

Chiefs thirty seven, Ravens twenty.

They tacked on a late touchdown.

Lamar's now one in six against Kansas City.

They had a lot of defensive injuries, but that's not the story.

The story is Lamar.

I mean, to me, John, Kansas City is in his head.

You know, obviously when you're missing six defensive starters.

I mean, Mahomes four drives, four scores to start, like four touchdown passes.

He broke the all time record fastest quarterback to two hundred and fifty touchdowns, which we all knew he was going to do.

So the defense it doesn't help.

But I feel that Kansas City is in Lamar's head, do you definitely?

I mean, the Steelers have been over the years and now Kansas City.

It's undebatable.

I also think this, and listen, he's a fantastic player, He's an incredible talent, but these last two weeks he's led a pretty You talk a lot about privileged lives at quarterback on offense, like the real sports starts when your tight end chatters his leg, your right guard gets the dui, he gets suspended, and then a wide receiver goes down in the first series of the game.

It's like, then what do you do?

Yeah, and we've seen mahomes now for two years.

But I'd say also look at Josh Allen.

His defense has been average at best over the years.

Lamar.

I would imagine his worst defense was last year, and by the end of the year it was really good.

Two years ago, they had the number one defense in the league most of his career because of the team he got drafted by.

Right it's basically like defense U in football.

The Baltimore Ravens, well, what's going on right now?

A bunch of injuries.

Their two best defensive lineman Van Oay's kind of a hybrid.

Yeah gone, Roquand gets hurt today.

I mean their defense is just a shell of itself.

It's like, okay, and listen the Ravens.

How many times did they win games?

I bet if we looked over the last three or four years, like forty five thirteen.

Yeah, so they roll you when they get up.

But it's like, okay, you got to have to win this game.

The Lions are used to that thirty five, thirty two, let's go the Ravens.

You know, that's just he doesn't have to do that a lot for my years.

And all of a sudden he's looking.

It's like you're back on the field.

You know, they just scored another point.

It's just it's a different that they don't feel like the Purple team we're used to watching because defensively and that has to throw him off and it puts more pressure on him and they've kind of cracked.

I would say the last couple of weeks.

Yeah, I had two first half turnovers.

I mean, they got themselves into a hole and I let me throw this at you.

I've always said the reason he dominates the NFC, and he is, No, he's it's like twenty five and two debatable.

Yeah, yeah, they don't see him.

Spags has now seen him seven times.

So in my take on Lamar, I remember the first year he started playing.

I think he beat the Chargers the first time he played him that first rookie year.

Then in the second time he played the Chargers in the playoffs, if I recall, they had a little bit better beat on him.

And it's all fuzzy to me, but I was told very early on you do get a little bit of a beat on him.

He's just so dynamic you can't get your arms run well.

Spags has seen him now so many times.

It's a very good and very healthy and a fast defense and then all of a sudden you jump out to a lead.

And I mean, I think some of this is not that there's a secret sauce, but Spags is great.

His defense is great, and they kind of mostly contained him tonight.

Well because the last two weeks, you know, Dan Campbell set the blueprint and you went, well, you know, Spags, who already had a blueprint, is going to utilize that throughout the week of basically corralling him.

Now again, he might juke you out and make a move every once in a while, but if you don't just run up aimlessly and let him just get an easy ten yards with his eyes closed, it's harder for him to operate.

And remember, for a long time, you know, Dax team now stinks, but it was like when he didn't when he got to pass the ball less than they ran it, he was really really effective.

Lamar had that stat going forever.

When the Ravens have more rushing attempts than pass attempts.

They're gonna be really dangerous.

Why is that they up in the second half handing the ball off and they just kind of roll you, they lean on you.

Well today seventeen rush attempts, twenty pass attempts like that is not their formula, the way they're playing.

And obviously you know the turnovers, I mean when he's turning the ball over.

Now we have and he's not the only culpert.

Derek Henry has been a major problem for him this year.

They're out of sink and they they have these injuries.

Like you know, the Chiefs, you could tell it's like, Okay, they beat the Giants, they win this game, they get right back into the mix.

I'm sure we'll talk about the Chargers.

They got a million injuries right now.

Like it's open again for the Chiefs.

You look at the Ravens and you go this kind of their year from hell, like the forty nine Ers last year.

You just lose a million players and all of a sudden you're seven and ten.

Yeah, And to your point, I joke with Jamack all week, I'm like, it doesn't people don't understand it.

It's not like Xavier Worthy is a one.

But when you don't have a one, two or a three, he's a damn good two.

So he had a ton of targets, nice catches, a couple of man, he was wide open on a couple of them.

So to me, when you watch Xavier Worthy, they still don't have a run game.

But check o hunh.

That's not gonna work big picture.

But not every team that gets to the playoffs, it's Philadelphia.

Not everybody's a great run team.

What the run team does, it picks up first downs and it helps your defense.

So I think they're gonna have to establish that.

But when I watched them today with Thornton, Juju Smith, Zavier Worthy, my take was, and I'm not sure if yours was, well, if they get Rashi Rice back, okay, now Thornton, now Worthy, now Rice, Juju Smith, Travis kelcey, okay, that's more than good enough with Patrick Mahomes if they can just be Ridge running the ball.

But Worthy today it was pretty clear that he has a relationship with Mahomes, and it's it's it's pretty good.

Well.

One thing I wrote down is, you know Tkon Taekwon.

Thornton was once a second round pick.

You know, that was a late second round pick by the Patriots.

But he has a touchdown in each of the last three weeks.

So you get Worthy back, You get this guy who could fly, get him some confidence.

You get Rice back.

Hollywood.

Brown is just a solid contributed member, Like he can get you five six catches every game.

Juju can just do some dirty work over the middle of the field.

Their passing game looks a little bit better.

Big picture, this is why they win today.

They're two and two.

You look at the rest of you know, the AFC, some of the injuries their own in their own division, and the Chargers.

I mean, you just you can't just start overcoming missing elite players, especially at the offensive line.

You go, got it.

I like their offense now again, we talked about this last week with the Bears.

I just said, let's pump the brakes on the you know, against the Cowboys defense.

He saw today, like the Bears offense is going to be up and down.

And I will say the same thing with this Chiefs against this Baltimore defense, which is have major issues, but they also have one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time and one of the greatest coaches of all time and coaches the offense.

Yeah, so I would be bullish on the unit moving forward for sure from an explosive standpoint, and you add Worthy to go with Thornton's speed, you can just stretch the field and those possession receivers in Brown and Juju and even Travis who clearly gets up for bigger games, clearly Kennett, and you just keep him healthy towards you a playoff game.

I mean, everybody's got a hole outside of Philadelphia.

So their defense is good.

They have the best head coach coordinator combo in the league once they get Rice back, more than adequate, probably above average receiving corpse, superstar head coach quarterback.

I thought the O line was good.

Andy Reid has rebuilt it three times since since Mahomes arrived, Like if they've been patchworking it.

You know, they lose Tuney, it's gonna take a while.

They don't have a great run game.

I'm not even sure how serviceable it will be.

But as I watched them today, I'm like, Okay, they're a game back of the Chargers, and the Chargers now, I mean, I don't know what's happening with Joealt, but you're not with a division.

If you don't have Joealt or Rashawn Slater, not even Harbaugh can pull that rabbit out.

So, I mean, I looked at him today and maybe I'm overly optimistic, but I said it all week.

I said, Worthy, we'll get ten targets, six seven catches, and then Travis Kelcey.

And it's just like anything else when you've been in any industry fifteen years.

You and I, you know, our Sunday pod feels different than one in May, right, Like it's like Travis Kelsey's been around multiple surgeries.

I watch him in these spots and I'm like, Okay, it's different.

He's fine.

I don't know.

I came out of it.

And again the injuries are part of it.

But I and I have defended Lamar forever.

But he had two turnovers.

It's pretty clear there's an anxiety that he know, if it's a therapy thing, he just say what you want about Josh Allen.

He's been highly effective against Belichick.

Against the Chiefs, Josh Allen loses.

It's usually on the defense.

I think it's totally on Lamar's head.

Well, I mean, if you gave the Chiefs Andy and Spags the opportunity, who would you rather play at quarterback?

They wouldn't even hesitate and say, lamar right, the data is in.

Yeah, check Josh's data versus them in the regular season and in the playoffs.

He has been excellent against Kansas City.

But yeah, I mean, I think Kansas City has to be I thought the whole time.

I know his numbers haven't looked good, But watching Patrick Mahomes last week, in the second half, early in the season, a couple in couple of the losses, the one against Phildel, I think he's played really well fame here.

He's just completely under control.

I bet if you went to sitting in Andy's office tomorrow, he's like, I was not worried at all over the losses with how a quarterback.

I felt good.

Yeah, I thought it was on the other guys.

You know, So I actually think you know, Patrick has been a little up and down in previous years.

Remember he had an awful interception streak.

Yeah, I think for the most part, he's he's been playing at a really, really high level.

His numbers just don't look like fifty touchdowns anymore.

But I just go that's one of the best players in the league.

Yeah, the numbers don't reflect his quality of play.

I thought he had two throws today and a scramble.

The one where he ran over the line and came back didn't count, but it was like it was really a clever play to set up time.

I also thought he had a side arm throw to Juju Smith Schuster.

It was so quick and so fast with such velocity, and I'm like, nobody else can do that.

Stafford does it.

It doesn't look like that, So I'm with you.

I think Kansas City now is again a top six team and maybe five.

I mean, the Chargers tackle situation is bad, and let's just go to the Charger game next.

So the Giants beat the Chargers twenty one eighteen, so elite neighbors could be out for the year.

But the story, which I thought was pretty substantial.

If if you look at the numbers and you didn't watch the game, you wouldn't be impressed with Jackson Dart.

But the Giants, between Dart and Scataboo rushed for over one hundred and sixty yards.

He had seven rushes.

They were excellent on third down.

I thought Jackson Dart was pretty damn good.

Neighbors hurt early, so you don't have that.

He had ten scrambles for fifty five yards.

I thought he was clever, kind of worked between the tackles.

We know he has a decent arm.

I don't know.

Again, the Chargers had Herbert was hit fourteen times, so this is like a problem.

Last week he was hit fourteen times.

But I thought Jackson Dart, I mean, I'm watching all these college quarterbacks.

Dante Moore looks like a great quarterback.

CJ.

Carrett, Notre Dame, the rest of them, I would sell some stock.

I thought Jackson Dart looked pretty good.

Yeah, he definitely gave him an energy to start the game.

I mean they get upset to nothing.

He has that, you know, the quarterback draw made some throws obviously throughout the game.

He keeps plays alive with his legs that Russell no longer was doing.

There's all.

There was also like a youthful, I don't know, craziness to him.

I mean he's trying to run guys over.

He had the one play that got called back on the hole where he's he got to be.

I mean he could have broke his hand, he could have broke his finger, it's his throwing hand.

But he I think he's so amped up.

He's playing like he would be against Mississippi State or Tennessee.

It's like, you got to be a little more careful in the NFL, especially against this team.

But he definitely, I mean you skataboo.

The moment he's gotten in the games last couple of weeks.

You can feel his energy and his physicality.

He just adds something right.

He is looking to hit someone hard, and I think the team feeds off it.

And today you know their passing game now at Neighbors, I would assume his niece done.

The passing game is going to be a struggle.

The numbers are not going to look pretty good or good at all, but definitely Dark gives them something that Russell no longer does.

So.

I also think when you look at the Chargers, they're the defensive line for the for the for the Giants is excellent.

I mean, Burns is a fantastic player, Lawrence a monster.

Kavon's even better.

I think that he's played earlier in his career.

Uh And obviously they just they fly around, so you start losing.

The Chargers have a domino effect problem because Alt is there because the left tackles down he's supposed to play right tackle, so the backup right tackle is at right tackle.

Well, then he goes down beck that you know, you start shuffling.

All of a sudden, you got backups and third stringers in different spots against I mean, I don't know how much they may combined.

But the Giants defense, they're paying a lot of money, yes, and they've invested a lot of resources, so he is.

I thought Herbert Mason throws a day where it looked like he was gonna lose knees and limbs.

I mean, he's just getting cut off, he's getting destroyed.

That's not as sustainable.

Now.

I like the Giants today because I went, well, you go thirteen and four East Coast game early, more the juice of the new quarterback.

So I thought they were gonna lose or at least this game was gonna be close.

But then now when you look big picture, you go all high ankle sprain for a big guy that could be a month.

So it's like you got problems, you know, and it feels like Herbert's gonna have to be running for his life.

He can do that, but man, I don't feel as good as I did about them a week ago.

Now Hampton O Mario Hampton had a couple of big runs.

It was funny I wrote this down.

He had a fifty four yard touchdown run and I wrote, okay, he's worth the number one pick.

They need a horse.

Naujie Harris is done for the year.

So I thought, Amrio Hampton likes Ashton Genty, who will get to in a minute.

Ashton looked the part today.

He had a very good day, his best day as a pro.

I thought Hampton had his best day.

And again the Chargers had three hundred and forty yards.

Giants only had two fifty.

So they're passing game this year.

To me, won Greg Romas is calling passes NonStop two because you know Keenan Allen adds with McConkey and then Johnston, the TCU kid is been fantastic.

He's been relative to the bar.

Oh, I mean, you know, you look at neighbors who everybody looks at and goes, what a home run?

Neighbors can't stay on the field.

He can't stay on the field.

And Quintin Johnson, who was a bust when Jim Harbar arrived clearly in the off season.

They're like, dude, you have a you're a unicorn.

Your body type is different.

They have gone aggressively downfield with him, and he's delivered.

He had a drop problem for about a year and a half, and you know, so I think the good news for them Hampton can play.

Quinton Johnson's done a bust.

You know, Joe will return of all high ankle sprains or like what do they call hit pointers, you just calf injuries like that.

Yeah, you know, they just annoying.

But in the end, I still feel that defense most of the time is going to win games.

I think it's not sustainable, but Herbert's kind of a Josh Allen type, a Cam Newton type age.

It's pretty sustainable, but it's not in like four years.

Well, Quinn Johnson's just adding it up.

Has twenty two catches and four touchdowns through four games.

So you at him with Keenan and Ladi mconkey all of a sudden, you go, well, do I have an eighty catch, ten to twelve touchdown, deep threat and explosive player.

Because if I can put that, that's what they lacked.

I mean last year all they had was mconkey over the middle, and listen, sometimes guys are late bloomers.

There have been.

Terrell Owens is one of the greatest players in the history of the league.

Didn't have great hands when you are DK Metcalf.

I don't think he's known for having Marvin Harrison senior hands.

But when you are a physical freak and can fly like Quinn Johnson can, you can get by with dropping some balls.

And I forget who was calling the game today, but he said they asked Keenan Allen.

You were here a couple of years ago with him when he was young, and now you're here with him and now he's playing, Well, what's the difference.

He's like, honestly, just way more confident.

And that's where I think Harbaugh gets a lot of credit is over the years and he has to do this, you know, in college.

He gets to build them up when they're seventeen eighteen.

Confidence is like that jump from high school to college.

It's just different.

You get to mold the young guy in the NFL.

All of a sudden, you can feel overwhelmed, I'm not good enough.

Harball had proved it with the forty nine ers, and he's proven it here again.

He can take guys.

Alex Smith was shot.

When I was with the Eagles, we were going to sign Alex Smith to be our backup quarterback.

Harball wouldn't let him go.

He believed in him, and he created the rocket ship that went on to get traded and become a playoff quarterback for a long period of time.

Because some people are like, oh, it's kind of cheesy as hyperbolic, it works.

These guys are young men, These guys are very fickle human beings, rightfully, so this is difficult.

And he deserves a lot of credit because I remember last year when he was dropping some balls.

Some of these coaches, I mean could be angry, you know your boy, Sean Payton, Kyle Shanahan.

It's hard for them to be be as fake positive sometimes and Jim's pretty good at that.

And I got to give him a lot of credit with this specific player because last year he could have just kind of thrown him in the trash, did he not.

He kind of kept publicly building him up, and he's seeing the fruits of that now.

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This week's redeem Team player is Dante Moore.

The former UCLA Brewin led Oregon to a win at number three Penn State.

Dante finished great night twenty nine to thirty nine three touchdowns in Oregon's impressive victory at Happy Valley all Right in one of the wildest, ugliest games of the season, the Bears because of a late last second miss block field goal.

The Bears beat the Raiders twenty five twenty four and the reason this is important the Raiders.

Thank god Geno Smith is in the league.

He basically lost the game for the Raiders today.

He had three picks.

He's got really really tenuous judgment in big spots.

The Bears were a mess.

I mean they had a fourth and one false start, they had a huge third and five and the snap Caleb wasn't ready for it.

I mean, I Ashton Genty arrives.

So if you're a Raider fan, Ashton Genty looked the part.

Gino was awful, and I think you and I both said it.

Pete knows him, Pete trusted him.

It's so weird because Pete hates interceptions and Gino leads the NFL and picks.

I think he's got now like six or seven leads the NFL.

He's the opposite of what Pete Carroll likes.

He does not take care of the ball.

But in the end, you know, I will say this about Kayleb Williams.

He made a couple of throws.

Cole Kament dropped a big ball today that he had a couple of bad drops.

He they won.

He was the better quarterback.

It's imperfect, but do you just if you're the Bears.

Do you go, we won a road game.

We don't win road games.

I mean that, I look at it and I think to myself, Hey, our defense made plays.

That's part of football.

Yeah.

I thought he made some big plays when that final drive scrambling around, you know, it's I just looked up on the four box on that on that fumble, you know, is that on him?

Is that on the center?

I'm sure they'll talk about it Ben Johnson the postgame press conference.

I mean, that might not be his fault, but you know, Max Crosby, I thought throughout early in the game, like Max Crosby looks like Lawrence Taylor right now.

He was all open.

It looked like it looked like Max Crosby was going to single handedly win the Raiders game in the first half.

You know, I was like Max Crosby, I would rather have Max Crosby than all eleven guys last week on the Cowboys, and I can't imagine Caleb Williams like, we're not playing down.

You see, there was a play late in the game.

Max Crosby is so good, so he comes from the left, Caleb goes to pass, he just stops circles and says, I'm just gonna go chase him down, and he chases him.

Caleb is a is a world class athlete, and Max forced him out of bounds from the other side of the field as a pass rusher.

Then he dives inside and gets a probably a four to five yard Caleb gets a five yard head start and he angles him and gets him out of bounce.

I thought Max Crosby today looked like the best defensive player in the entire sport.

He looked damn good.

The other thing that you know, for example, Russell Wilson, who's become He is so polarizing, like what's gonna happen to his career?

The Hall of Fame?

You know, looking back, Russell could Russell became a borderline Hall of Famer without ever being able to throw over the middle of the field.

I don't know what his numbers like just specifically today middle of the field, but he does hit some plays over the middle of the field.

Caleb, Oh yeah, and he hit today Rome on a big one.

Yes, they scored a touchdown.

I would say the other thing, if has been someone that's been critical of the Rome pick, he's definitely showing some life.

He's got to he's got some more Washington Huskies vibe going with him right now, making some big plays, just getting open h So yeah, I mean, I today, it's not a day to be negative or you go on the road, you win in the NFL.

Now, my overall takeaway from the two teams, You know, the Bears might win six seven games, Raiders might win four or five.

Colton Miller get carted off at the end of the end of the game.

That's a problem by far.

There were plays to night and I don't think the Raiders uh, you know, offensive line is and definitely the Bears defense isn't very good, but it was like I think the Raiders offensive line is horrendous, So you got the combination.

I just don't think those teams are very good.

But I'm with you.

It was it was an entertaining like that game was close and the Rams Colts game was close, but one was a playoff game and the other was just you know, teams that are going to combine for eleven wins play but it's the NFL.

It's entertainment.

Yeah, I mean, the game winning drive for them eventually was eleven plays.

And again I thought Caleb made two big time throws on the Caleb to a Dunze play.

I wrote it down here, big blitz by the Raiders.

They put heat on him.

So again again, my take is it's the false start.

The mechanics, the basic operations still are not there.

But if you look at the schedule for Chicago, the Buys coming up, John, it's a pretty easy schedule.

It's not a it gets you know, green Bay at the end of the season.

Minnesota is not a great football team as we saw today, so Detroit is.

But they get him at home.

I don't know.

I kind of I think I kind of looked at the Bears and I'm like, they block a kick, they made three big picks.

I think you get on that flight if you're a Bears fan, and you look, if you're a Bears player, you get on that flight and think, shit, man, we don't win road games.

I mean under Eberflus they were the worst road team perhaps in league history.

And I mean I took the Raiders today minus one and a half field goal gos we win it.

But my take was, I just don't trust Chicago away from home.

So I can think you get on the flight.

Some of these games are ugly.

I would say the bigger issue with the Bears and why you couldn't trust, like they could lose the Bengals.

You know, they can lose the Giants, they can lose to anybody, is like the offense, like they're gonna make some splash plays.

They have a really good head coach.

Defensively, they look really bad Colin.

I mean, they are just not They're bad tackling team.

They obviously don't have anyone that feels like a Max Crosby on their team, so they don't have like an impact player, you know.

Ashing genty one his first touchdown run, it reminded me a lot of the run from Washington State last year that I think you ran for two hundred and sixty yards against them, where guys would tackle them and just fall off.

That's not supposed to happen in the NFL.

Yeah, Caleb went twenty two to thirty seven two hundred and twelve yards.

He also ran eight times.

A lot of it was survival.

But again, I if I go, let me go to team stats here real quick.

I mean again, the Raiders had almost one hundred more yards.

The Raiders averaged six point nine yards of play.

The Bears were good on third down, they were one for one on fourth down.

They clearly won time of possession.

So I mean again the bear to me, the stuff I looked at was eight penalties fall start.

I think overall, you got to be pretty happy.

Okay, yeah, I would agree.

I want to talk, so I don't know how long we'll talk about it.

The Eagles beat the Buccaneers thirty one to twenty five.

Got off to a huge start.

It was the reverse of the Rams game last week.

They averaged three point four yards of play.

The truth of the matter is they've blocked upon early.

I mean they came out hair on fire.

But AJ Brown again disappeared.

Saquon's good, but it doesn't feel quite like he has a second gear.

They're four to zero on four to one possession games, a lot of penalties.

AJ Brown disappeared two hundred total yards.

You know what Philadelphia feels like to me?

I mean that's hey.

Baker and the Bucks were coming right back and almost picked up another last drive win.

They feel a little like Kansas City.

Something's not quite right.

But there's so much playoff experience in the Philadelphia locker room.

There's so many guys who have been around that defensive line makes a big play or like I thought their defense up the middle, I just think Philadelphia and it's as cliche, but it's like moxie and experience and in big games matters, and they're just kind of finding a to win ugly.

I thought they treated the first half like the Super Bowl.

They went down to Tampa day early, they went down on Friday, and that you know, the Bucks had beaten them three for straight times and they're up twenty four to six at halftime.

So they came they came into this game like we're gonna kick your ass, but super Bowl champs.

They's like what they just assumed the game was over because in the first half, the big knock was well Todd Bowles pressure, pressure, pressure, It's been awful for Jalen.

Jalen was eight of nine in the first half for two touchdowns against pressure.

He was fantastic.

Yeah, and they were just I mean it felt like, you know, a team that hadn't won the Super Bowl, like with their back against the wall, we're trying to prove it to the league.

To me, wins that game forty to thirteen.

But I bet they went in at halftime, they looked around like this game's over and they just kind of mailed it in.

And then the Bucks.

One thing they have is that they do not quit.

No, I mean they have shown that.

For fort there's a moment I'm like, is he really gonna have four straight comebacks and four straight game winning drives?

And if it wouldn't have been in part of it is you know one thing Jalen is not gonna do anymore.

Jalen's a pretty conservative player.

I would say he will push the ball down the field in one on one situations.

But Baker does these Farvian mahomesy in run around bounce off guys.

Perty does this too, and when they're great, it's the highlight of the day.

But it can also be Baker, you just threw it too Now, I know it kind of got tipped, but that play he puts himself.

Jalen doesn't put himself in that situation anymore.

He has taken that out of his game, and you could argue he's never really it's not really his thing.

That's always kind of been Baker's thing.

Going back to Oklahoma and they're coming right back and he tries to keep this crazy play alive and they pick him off in the end zone.

And let's face that was kind of a game, right, there was what six seven minutes left to go, and it was so it was so exhilarating when he's scrambling and then the deflation that comes out in those moments.

For as great as the farv in the Mahomes touchdown play is laid in a game, they're equally as deflating when the guy and the other team picks it off in the end zone.

So that was ultimately their undoing.

But I'll say this, I came away pretty impressed, like the Bucks have a fight to them that you know, they're just not gonna go away this year.

And ultimately the you know, the Eagles they ran that fake push push That to me is now the league is like, well, we have to sell out for this play because it's unstoppable, and now they're gonna start flipping it to Saquon Barkley.

I mean, it's an un it's an unstoppable play, right if they're gonna if they're gonna fake you because you have to sell out and that it was actually probably to me, the highlight of the game.

But yeah, not nice win.

By Philly.

But I'm with you, it's like they had I don't view them they might win fourteen games.

I don't view them like an all time great team the way they're playing right now.

No, I mean that the Eagles had three straight punts in the fourth quarter and the Bucks got back into the game.

I mean, they had opportunities to seal it.

And by the way, Jalen Hurts was zero for five when targeting AJ Brown.

So the Rams, who are not great at corner, I mean, Rams will get to this.

In the second Rams could have lost easily, probably should have lost.

I mean, god, that felt so bad for a number ten that player Williams for the Colts.

But I mean Mitchell Mitchell, h the from Texas.

Mitchell, Yeah, I mean, and I liked him in college and I felt and then he had a holding call, so I mean literally they had two touchdowns taken away.

So I mean, guys have bad days.

But I I mean in the fourth quarter when they could have sealed it, they didn't.

And the Bucks have better corners that match up longer corners that match up on AJ Brown.

That's a huge issue for the Rams, who I really do believe.

I don't think they want to relinquish picks.

But I think the Rams know they got to solve that issue.

It's hard to beat Philadelphia some of the better teams.

Okay, I will get to the Rams.

In fact, let's do it now because we'll get to your San Francisco forty nine ers and Aaron Rodgers having his best game.

So the Rams end up winning this thing twenty seven to twenty.

My takeaway the culture for real, Daniel Jones say, I mean, listen, they had that touchdown taken away when when the kid fumbled it out of the end zone.

Jonathan Taylor, huge run, there's a holding call.

I feel like the Rams are pretty pooka reliant McVeigh, Stafford and pooka reliant, although Davonte Adams, you know, their defense is good, their running game is good.

So the Rams are a really good football team.

But my takeaway today was Colts probably should have won, and Indy's really a really good They're gonna win that division, I think going away.

Totally.

I mean, I think Puka Nakua and Jonathan Taylor are two of the better offensive players in the NFL.

Right now.

You could argue two of the best non quarterbacks in the league.

I mean, Puka is an unstoppable one on one for us.

You cannot cover him and Jonathan Taylor.

You look at his numbers, like, John, what are you talking about?

The run he had that got called back, which it didn't ultimately impact him at all.

Right, I hated that had to have was was gent like you know, running through a tackle three sixty and he has been unreal all season long.

I text you this, the Colts, they have been a quarters quarterback less team and now they're just a real team with Daniel Jones, who honestly, I watch him more and more I get more impressed.

His armstrengths a little better than I thought.

You know, Tyler Warren, I was thinking when we were talking about Kleb and I'm not gonna try to live week to week on this, but I love the draft Warren like that guy's gonna work in the NFL for a long time.

Loveland, he was already injured coming out.

I understand Ben Johnson compared him to the Laporta a little twitchier, but you watch Warren, he doesn't seem like that explosive in and out of his breaks, but he's enormous.

He catches everything.

I mean today he five for seventy like every time you look up, it's seventy to eighty to ninety yards and he's such a red zone threat, you know, to go with some of their other wide receivers and one of the best running backs in the NFL.

It looked like they were gonna win that game pretty handily, and then obviously it kind of fell apart for him at the end.

But I'm with you.

I think the culture really good.

I think the ram I thought that was just like a playoff level.

Just the intensity of that game.

Well, and the Curse obviously had the big play toward the end.

Yeah, Shane Stiken shows you Shane Ssike is not an idiot.

Maybe the quarterback last year was just a train wreck.

Mitchell is that wide receiver, and my heart went out to the kid because he's supposed to be beloved on the team.

You knew he felt terrible.

But no, if you go look at the I want to go here real quick.

So Daniel Jones was twenty four to thirty three for two hundred and sixty two yards.

He did have two picks, but the one at the end they're trying to get down the field you can't crush him for that.

Stafford was twenty nine to forty one, three hundred and seventy five yards.

Three TV's no picks, He's ridiculous.

But overall, now, the Rams had four hundred and sixty yards.

God, they had seventy total plays.

That's a lot of plays for the for the Colts defense to be on the field.

You know, it's funny as I look at the Colts and you lose the football game.

The Rams that played a terrible second half.

It was one of my blazing five picks.

I'm like McVeigh off, a bad second half coming to home.

Now Daniel Jones is going to face a real pass rush.

But my takeaway the whole day was, oh god, Daniel Jones looks like a completely different player.

It actually, And I've always been a day Ball fan.

I think a lot of the credit we got.

You know, I know him and I like him.

I think Chris Ballards drafted really well.

But if you don't hit on a quarterback, everybody tears you apart.

Dude.

They have good weapons they have.

I mean Tillman is great, Warren's fantastic.

I think the offensive line although the Rams Jared Verse got in a couple times late, but I think I think overall the offensive line he gets, the Rams overwhelm more than half the teams they play.

They don't overwhelm the Eagles, they don't overwhelm the Lions.

They didn't overwhelm the Colts for most of the game.

So your point, coaching rosters quarterbacks it felt big.

Well, I mean I've told this story before, but I had a buddy on the Jets scouting staff and he said, John, we've drafted pretty well and we're going to extend seven eight of these guys.

But if we and this was a couple of years ago, but if we don't hit on the quarterback, we're all gonna get fired.

And most people in Boat it shows you you know their coaching staff.

I think Shane was a little more dynamic than solid because he can control of the offense.

The one year with Gardner Minshew.

But the Jets are a good example.

I mean, Sauce, Gardner, Garret Wilson, guys got big extensions.

The Penn State guy Breece Hall like, they've drafted well.

Everyone got blown out because the quarterback situation was such a disaster.

They've held it together and they finally just found their lifeline because you watch them to day.

I think a couple early games people don't want to get like, after a while, it's like, no, this guy's pretty solid.

Yeah, and they got I mean one, they feel like a lock to win ten games as it goes, could they win twelve?

Because he win twelve games?

Now two of the last three years he's won nine games with an average team.

He gets a better team, he wins twelve.

Like they're gonna give him a contract extension, he's gonna be you know this is yes, this has got a Baker Mayfield situation.

And you know, I get a lot of people asking me where I live.

Well, a lot of people from the Midwest live here, Big Vikings contingent.

A lot of people said, listen, John JJ McCarthy.

I get having hope, but like, you can't tell me we would have been better off signing Sam dar course, it's it's a pretty arrogant move to go, yeah, we'll just replace this thirty five touchdown guy that's twenty eight years old.

Usually it's impossible to do that, especially if the guy's not that number one overall pick.

You're like, well, he's a fifth number you watched Keep your Fingers Crossed.

Now he can't even play.

And Donald's Donald's been really really good playing.

He's just a good player.

Now, he's just a good player.

Yeah, I think it was funny Stafford.

So they took a picture at one point late in the game, Stafford was sweating.

It looked like, you know what, your dog goes into the water bowl in the summer and it comes up and there's just water all over your dog's face.

Stafford was pouring sweat off his helmet, and I mean it looked like it was just coming down in the end and it wasn't a water bottle because there was no break.

It was a drive.

But him hitting two to two at well, remember they signed to too, so they drafted him in the second round from Ole Miss.

Kind of felt like a bust, but they kind of felt well.

Ringing Davonte, he's good for about one big catch a game, and he had the eighty eight yard touchdown to win it for the Rams.

That's classic McVeigh.

Mcvayh's like, listen, we can bail on him, but he is our fastest receiver and he's not a high volume guy.

He's like a poor man Zavier worthy, but he will run past you, and we don't have that in our arsenal.

And I just think it's funny that Stafford doesn't throw to two to two at well all day.

The time he does, it's the game breaker.

And I think that's just what the Rams are.

I think situationally, they're so smart, they're just so well run, and I mean they didn't use that play the entire game.

It's twenty twenty.

You know a lot of these younger coaches, John they'll through plays in the first half.

I just it's such a Rams move to me.

I think where McVeigh deserves a lot of credit to is you know, you go through defensive coordinators, you're gonna whiff on some.

And clearly you know he had waited.

You know, Shula was his buddy, right, they've known each other since college, and you know he probably was ready years before he gave it to him, but he felt like he didn't want to view It's not as like brother like nepotism, but like I'm just giving it to my good buddy.

He has been really good for him now for two years.

I mean that was he was already on staff, ready to be implemented in obviously Don Shula's grandson.

But I think you know, hiring, I mean, so being a head coach.

You know, especially Sean, he's calling the plays, he's working with the offense, he's trying to develop guys, he's dealing with the roster.

You know, hiring your staff is the It's what made Jim Harbaugh such a star.

Jim Harbaugh is a great hire of his coordinators.

And you know, anytime that you are the offensive play caller, head coach, Kevin O'Connell, Brian Flores, Kyle Shanahan, Robert Salah, like, you're a lot better when you're defensive coordinator.

And I think most people are like, thing is gonna work.

Like you You've got a good team, and it's worked well.

I mean verse by the end first looks like to me, a young Khalil Mack.

Oh my god, he's he's a beast.

He's a monster.

He's a monster.

So yeah, they've they've drafted and developed a really good defensive line and they're just a tough you know.

Their best wide receiver is like it feels like a running back in Pooka.

I mean, it's the way he plays Cooper Cup used to feel like there's a physicality to the way they play at wide receiver that the Niners there, guys have that you know, you just that adds a toughness to your team.

You know, the Kansas City, their receivers is just running right.

I mean, you know, Xavier Worthy and Thornton ain't gonna run over guys.

But that's Andy doesn't mind, ye, he goes, well, I'll develop plays for him.

You know that, Shanahan and McVeigh, that those physical receivers add to the physical nature of the team.

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Pittsburgh twenty four Minnesota twenty one started for me eight thirty in the morning.

I thought it was my favorite bet of the week.

But then all of a sudden, they had three backup offensive linemen and the Steelers I felt Kevin O'Connell came into the game of the game plan, and so did Brian Flores, and they didn't adjust, but I think Kevin O'Connell couldn't adjust.

Listen, Aaron played the best game I think Aaron's played in a couple of years.

I really did.

He and DK Metcalf have a clear connection.

I thought the Steelers offensive line today, John, the Steelers have not developed a consistent wrong game in six years.

I thought they ran the ball today effectively.

I don't know.

I looked at Pittsburgh and I'm like, Jesus, this is the best Steeler performance.

And again they were missing three linemen.

Vikings were a mess on the old line.

But we can't make excuses Baltimore's defense.

You got to make plays.

I thought, Pittsburgh, that was a great performance by them.

If you would have told me at the beginning of the day, and I have some of this was a little bit garbage time, but wentz through for three hundred and fifty yards, I'd be like, I would have been a lot more money on the Vikings.

You know, I'm with you.

I thought for the first time in four games a little bit last week, but they look like a physical team.

Started to finish.

Yes, you know they gain well, ran for ninety nine yards.

If you just gave the Steelers every week one hundred yard rusher, They're gonna have a chance because you know, the days of Aaron throwing for three hundred and seventy five yards are done.

They're done.

But what he can do is a little bit like today twenty to twenty four, two hundred and twenty yards and part of giving DK a lot of money, which was pretty risky.

Every once in a while he is gonna take an eighty yards and cut across the field and run by every money.

So over the course of the season, DK gives you ten touchdowns and three or four of them are like that testy.

They usually are.

That's a huge but but you got to play good defense.

They had six sacks.

They were all over Wentce and you know, they were hitting really hard.

Now, they did lose Ramsey at the end of the game, but to me, there was a physicality to their team start to finish that had kind of been lacking.

And I do wonder, you know if Tomlin, I mean part of him is that raw raw what is going on here?

And I think the defense kind of been getting called out yep and came to play today.

And I would say the same thing for their offensive line because part of the reason every single human alive love Minnesota.

It's like, well flores against this offense.

Steel Steelers and run game has been a six year disappointment.

I mean I'm watching the day and I'm like this now again.

Have I watched every Steeler drive in every Steeler game, but over the last six years, I honestly felt watching that game that was the most hopeful Steeler win.

I'm like, well, that thing looks like a totally agree they could go on the road and win a playoff game like I was.

I mean, so much of this league, in a passing league, is can you consistently run the ball?

First?

Like, first, you don't want your quarterback throwing forty times, especially an old quarterback.

Secondly, it keeps your defense off the field, and I think Pittsburgh's defense you have some older players.

JJ Watt was great today, but you you have some older players and new players, so you don't want you you don't want your guys on the field for sixty six plays.

I mean I wrote down four or five different times, Wow, impressed Steeter Oline dot dot dot really great today.

Yeah, I mean at one point the game was twenty one to six.

Yeah, to me, they were creating turnovers.

They had a bunch of sacks.

I can't imagine endlessen.

I know the Vikings won one hundred and nothing last week against Jake Browning and the Bengals, but every single person with the Steelers said, We're not flying to Dublin, Ireland to lose to Carson Wentz like that, that is not happening on our watch.

Well, I woke up.

The game started at six thirty for me, and it was fourteen to three, and DK just had that play, and then you just watched the rest of the game, and again it was they got some late touchdowns.

You know, Rogers is screaming to go forward at the end, they get denied at like the one yard line, right when he wanted to basically ice the game.

And a couple of plays later they score, so all of a sudden, I think it was like twenty four to fourteen, and then all of a sudden, it's twenty four to twenty one.

And they still got a couple a minute or two before the two minute warning.

You're like, WHOA.

And I think, you know, Rogers I think is trying to make the Tomlin a little unconservative.

I think their nature would never have been to do that, but he kind of got to overrule him there, and which I didn't mind.

They had to go ninety nine yards with Carson Wentz and then all of a sudden, they I think they blew a coverage to Jordan Addison.

They got lucky that he didn't score.

Ye, you know, the guy made a great play to kind of b line him down at the end.

But I'm with you.

Beside a couple of free plays, the Steelers not only got they leaned on Minnesota, who I think we'd all agreed, pretty tough, physical team.

It's not like they are soft by any means, especially for you could look they kept showing Flora Flores had to look like what is going on?

And listen, Sometimes you fly across these international games.

What Minnesota ex playing back to back international games in two different countries.

You know that could really throw you off.

I heard you talking about it last week on TV, Like you draft this guy really high.

He misses all season last year and now he's out for six or seven games and ankle Like, let's let's call it what it is.

Sam Darnold's leading game winning drives.

Kind of a disastrous situation he'd be like, well, John, it's early.

We've talked a lot about you don't get much time anymore, like and you just let a quarterback go.

It's it's a problem.

And Carson Wentz is actually more impressive than I thought.

I mean, it's the guy was just on his couch.

He's actually pretty got some talent in his body still.

But like, you drafted this guy in the top fifteen to be your quarterback of a fourteen win team and he's just sitting there eating sunflowers.

Se He's like, it's.

Kind of a big problem.

Yeah.

I mean, Michael Pennix today I thought made some big time throws.

Drape May.

They're not asking him to do a ton, but Drake May today they're dropping forty two points.

So we know bo Nicks can play.

He gets an extra day against the Bengals defense.

Yeah, I mean, I wasn't a JJ McCarthy fan.

You know, it's interesting.

I've been told this, This has been a line that I've used many times, is don't try todate your previous choices.

And I listen, they wanted to sign Sam Donald, they were very interested.

They want John Snyder came in and you know, they're willing to pay more.

And Sam Donald, frankly, probably if you asked him, would have wanted to stay justin Jefferson, Kevin O'Connor.

I mean yeah, and I mean and by the way, in that division that's not a great defensive division.

Now you go out and have to face like, you know, a Bosa at the time and the Rams front twice a year.

I mean, Sam Donald follows the league.

I'd rather stay in Minnesota in the offensive division than go and have to face McVeigh and Shanahan and Arizona's got a defensive coach, they got players, So I you know, it's it's you and I both believed in Donald.

But when you watch Donald play and you watch JJ McCarthy, Sam's bigger, thicker, bigger arm.

There's a reason they offered him.

But I think did did they get into a situation where they're like, well we drafted him.

Yeah, there's when's the last time the Vikings it was like forever the Chiefs, they they've never had a rafted quarterback play.

Well, so there was all this pressure, you know, the GM who's his IVY league, smart venture capitalists, and Kevin o'conne who's obviously excellent.

They're like, we're not gonna matter.

If you look back, you would have been like, whatever you get offered, and he sound like he was getting offered.

You know, purty Jordan love money.

Would they give him fifty sixty guaranteed?

If they didn't have a quarterback, they would have gladly given him one hundred million dollars guaranteed, right, but they did.

They're like, they start pinching pennies and you start going, what we can do to the team.

But that's also for that to work, it's predicated on JJ McCarthy just being solid.

That not only do we not know if he's solid, he's played eight quarters in the NFL and seven of them have been the worst quarterback play of the league.

Think about that.

Yeah, he's played eight total quarters and seven of them have been Objectively, it doesn't get any worse.

And he's now torn in knee and had a bad ankle injury where he's not even he can't even put on bats.

So you go, this is I don't want to say, like def Con five, but you can't tell me that.

Internally, they are really concerned because listen, quarterback situation and just you can get lucky, right, Like they got a little lucky.

I don't blame them once they signed Donald for ten million dollars, still drafting JJ McCarthy, But then you got evidence and it's like, wow, he's terrible in these last two games.

Yeah, some Peyton Mannings had shitty playoff games football, Joe Montada lost some playoff games, and I'm not saying he's those guys, but he's kind of coming back.

And Sam's validating, like, yeah, maybe I'm not gonna be Patrick Mahomes, but I'm gonna be way.

What are the chances that JJ McCarthy is ever eighty percent as good as Sam Donald has been the last time?

I don't think do you know?

Right now, Sam Donald start of last season is tied with Mahomes with seven game winning drives.

He's tied for the most wins in the league and tied with Mahomes for the most game winning drives.

It's not that Sam is playing well.

Sam's playing well late.

Sam's playing well in big moments.

I mean that Arizona game they needed Sam they was that was a quarterback game.

So it's not just that Sam looks bigger and more active, and the other thing is Sam played with older guys in Minnesota.

Seattle's a bunch of kids.

It's the second youngest offense in the league, and they PLoP him in JSN.

Now looks like at number one, the Holton kid, the fifth round kid can play that, the Royal, the tight end from Miami, the rookie walker.

He just brought him into a bunch of kids like Jordan Love plays with a young team, but he's been there for four or five years with all those guys, or at least three years.

I mean, Sam had just plopped him into the young Seahawks.

It looks like he's been playing with this group of guys for years totally.

I mean, I'm with you and I I'll never forget watching the press conference when they signed him, and Mike McDonald's sitting up there next to him, and they said, well, how much of an impact did it have.

I mean, you could argue one of Sam's greatest throws of his short career is a really good player against against Seattle last year, and he said, yeah, kind of had a big impact on us.

I had a front row seat for that game and a game planned against them all week, so I just think, you know, the Steelers are a good example of this season is like they start anew next year, Who the hell knows what's gonna happen.

Rodgers retire, he's forty two years old.

Maybe tries to come back.

You know, I think the Vikings right now, listen, I've been like I said, I've been impressed with Carson Wentz, like he's but definitely not some loser.

That's right.

You can play with them, but he's just one.

He's not like you got to go back to JJ.

Is JJ as good as Carson Wentz is?

Right now?

I don't think so.

No, Right, let's go to this.

This is a game that not many people outside of the Bay Area watch, but it's fascinating.

So the Jags beat the Niners twenty six to twenty one.

San Francisco.

First of all, is the team that can't catch.

They had six or seven drops today, but the Jags led seventeen to six and a half.

Brock Purtty had a brutal fumble that sealed the lost late.

He had two picks, one of them egregiously bad.

So so far this year, Brock pretty has four touchdowns and four picks.

Mac Jones has four touchdowns and one pick.

Some of it the injury less practice time, but you know, and I'll just set it up for you, But my take was the Jags gave them multiple opportunities to win the game.

It was typical Jacksonville.

They you know, they have you know, I mean, you know, Trevor Lawrence sliding out of bounds.

I mean it's just like, oh God, Jacksonville missing field goals that are makeable.

What did you make up pretty I mean I thought it was pretty bad.

Yeah, he looked, I thought today like bad.

Jimmy Garoppolo balls floating on them all day, all day.

I mean he he had multiple guys.

Robinson and Juwan Jennings made two catches that were just out of this world that if they don't catch with their fingertips are probably caught by the safety behind him.

And I think this gets back to this not the Niners had a moment today where Ricky Piersoll was in the tent and Juwan Jennings had to wait to get into the tent.

And that has happened to the forty nine Ers more than any team in the league.

They've had a player in the tent and they've had a waiting line It's like when you and I go to the doctor's office.

That is not normal.

Their tent.

They should sponsor their tent and get quadruple any other team if there's a sponsor on top of the tent because of the use it gets.

Rockberdy probably should not have played today.

He could barely practice by like you know, Thursday, but he kind of had to because the backup quarterback who've been playing well, Mac Jones, is injured, who toughed it out and was active.

They have a massive injury problem.

I mean that their players are now pearsall Piersoll could not finish this game.

They just lose.

Bosa Kittles nowhere to be found.

They they're terrible on special teams.

A guy takes a punt to the house, Parker Washington, I mean, oh just I mean he was flying.

The punter gave his best efforts.

But they've been bat on special teams for six years.

So the turnovers, the forty nine ers, I mean, they've they've been gutting these wins out today.

They deserve to loose.

I mean, they were they were really a troch.

There's a big pick's problem with this team too.

Kyle Shanahan wants to run the football, and right now they can now run the football, and there's nowhere for McCaffrey to run.

He doesn't have explosive runs.

At one point in time the day I looked, they had like sixty McCaffrey had seventeen carries for forty nine yards.

They ran the ball twenty four times for eighty three yards, and they had like two explosive runs.

So they just McCaffrey's long was eleven yards a couple of years ago.

Remember when they go to the Super Bowl that year.

Throughout the season, how often McCaffrey's have fifteen twenty thirty yard runs.

He was there like he was a huge element to their offense as an explosive player.

And then it opens up the play action game.

I remember Jay Gruden told me he's like, listen, there's no one better than scheming up.

I mean, part of the reason they're not McCaffrey's looking a little old, and their offensive line is not great.

It's not because the scheme.

Like Kyle knows how to scheme the run, but his drop back passing game is not viewed like Andy Reid's or Sean mcvas right, that's not Kyle's deal.

But when he cannot run the ball, they can't just drop like the purty play that end of the game, the fumble like he's gotten multiple offensive line getting smoked.

He can't drop back in pass because they can't protect.

So beside Trent, who's also looking a little old that.

I know, they're three and one, but they play the Rams in like three and a half days.

And now the Rams getting this win today, that's a huge game.

The forty nine ers.

Who knows who's going to be available in that thing.

All of a sudden, you went from three and oh to three and two pretty quick, and I thought, you know, you go three and oh, you just have to limp shitty schedule seven to seven and seven and you're ten and seven, right, you saw you go?

You can lose to anybody.

I don't think the Jags are that good, Listen, I don't think the Jags is that good.

All they got some good individual players, but do I think they're like a do I feel confidence saying like that's a ten win team?

Hell though, I mean if you look at the Rams defense and Seattle's defense, just the athletes that are playing John and then you look at the Niners.

I mean, Seattle and the Rams are just faster defensively.

They just have more elite players.

And then all of a sudden, JSN Jackson Smith and jigb is a number one for Seattle.

Walker's the number one running back, a royal looks really good at tight end.

Darnold's a great athlete.

I picked the Rams that win the division and the Seahawks be a wildcard team.

Just turn the sound down and watch the Seahawks and the Rams athletes.

It looks like GM's are hitting a lot of picks San Francisco.

You know, when I picked them third, people said I was crazy, but I said they're old, expensive and brittle, and I said, you're just gotta bake in.

Trent's gonna miss three games, McCaffrey two, and Kidle four, like you just have to bake it in.

So yeah, I mean, I actually think the Niners defense has been pretty good this year.

I mean, for they gave up how much this saw one, Well that's what I'm saying.

So but they have some young explosive players, Like they got a touchdown, dude fumbles ETN scores the next play they have a punt.

You know, it's not their defense has given up all, like part of the offense is basically giving them great field position and the defense is kind of getting gassed.

But big picture, you know, Bosa did not play well.

I thought last year this year he looked like a man on a mission.

So losing him, it's not just you just say we lose so and so, Well, how is that guy that's so and so just because he's a big name most early on looked like he could be the defensive player of the year.

So the the the air going out of everyone's sales on defense, because you go, hey, we got Nick Bosa coming off the edge with his young group, we got Fred Warner flying around, we got this great defensive coordinator.

Our defense can dominate and our offense can just figure it out as the year goes on.

Because but you lose Nick, it kind of can unravel fast.

And that's you know, today, I thought they did a pretty good job.

But I don't view the Jags as some like potent offensive option.

But to me, if purty and he's just he's just had thrown a lot of turnover last like tend to last week.

That interception, I don't know what he saw.

Gino had an interception today.

I don't know what he saw.

Perty's was worse.

Somebody pretty can't see because he's not that tall.

I think that's what I think.

And then today I wonder, you know, he's got this foot injury.

Can you not drive off the ball.

Yeah, but then he'd scramble around, so you're like, well, he doesn't look hurt.

But I felt throughout the entire game he you know, if he was a pitcher, it'd be one of those like he's not making a pass like the third inning, right, you just go to the bullpen.

You could just tell early like he is just off.

And usually, you know with a Shanahan team or just that kind of that style of offense, you just run the ball.

Well, they couldn't.

They just can't, and he can be I would say, stubborn.

Sometimes Kyle will keep calling runs because we're gonna bust one and we're gonna bust one.

And they never did.

They never had a longer run than eleven, and most of them felt like they were going for one, two, three yards.

They were getting nothing.

And if we know the forty nineers can't run their best teams, they typically it's like it's pretty clear the Ravens.

When they're good, defense dominates and they and they lead a league in rushing.

Forty nine ers when they're good, defense lead the league and run like that's the style of football they play.

And right now I'm watching some of these other teams bus runs that the forty that is not the forty nine ers right now.

Okay, So I want to talk about one college game and one player specifically.

So Oregon in overtime beat Penn State Penn State thirty to twenty four.

And I had said all week I kind of liked Oregon to win, but they hadn't Dante Moore between u SEL and Oregon, he just hadn't played in a big stadium.

John, I think this kid was so cool.

I don't think that a delay a game.

I don't think they had an offensive penalty in terms of not being lined up.

He goes into that environment that is an elite defense that has eaten quarterbacks alive, three touchdowns, no picks, twenty nine to thirty nine, two hundred and fifty yards, and multiple times the camera takes pictures of Dante Moore totally unfazed.

Inarguably, I mean, I mean arguably the hardest environment in the country is I think definitely in their conference.

I think Dante Moore is the best quarterback in the country.

He is the best quarterback if you're talking poise size arm Oregon's always had speed, But you know, all these top programs do.

I think Ohio State's the better team.

I thought that was such a defining win.

I mean, they beat Ohio State last year, Notson, so you go, you go all the way and James Franklin's gonna get crushed.

But I and rightly so.

But he has lost to Harbaugh's Michigan, Ohio State, Oregon.

He's he's losing to the right people because I don't think Penn State's as good as Ohio State or Harbor with Michigan, I don't think it's as good a program as Oregon because Oregon recruits California at a high level.

But what was your interpretation of the game in Dante More I was kind of blown away by the performance.

Yeah, I thought it was pretty simple these teams, and you could take the other game that was going on at the same time, Georgia and Alahata.

They don't play in that.

They don't play in that many games for the talents equal.

So whether the quarterbacks on or off, whether Aler plays good or bad against Nevada or if IU or even you know, the the Iowas and some of these other teams are gonna play, it does not matter.

They're just gonna out talent them.

They're not the other teams.

I can be able to score and they're gonna win even when they play shitty twenty seven to seven.

There are gonna be a couple games throughout the year where they got equal talent.

And we say, you know with Penn State now for the because Penn State is an elite ross.

Yes, Like to me, just you I had those two games on at the same time.

It's like there are NFL players everywhere on.

These two those were the quarterback play, the coaching in speed.

Yeah, So to me, both games came down to Dante Moore is a five star quarterback who looks like he's a star.

And Ty Simpson everyone wrote that kid off.

Whatever debor and grub have done to him, he looks like a stud.

So what happens in the NFL, most teams are pretty equal, Like what the hell is the difference between Jags and the forty nine ers, Not much.

Well, if your quarterback crumbles, you're gonna have problems.

And that's the NFL right quarterback play.

Why do we say that because most teams have similar talent.

Yea that there's not there's not three teams.

I mean the Lions are a couple teams in the NFL, but over twenty five teams in the NFL, man for Manner basically the same.

Yeah, so it's like, what's your quarterback and that's what he becomes in college football now, especially with the NIL your team.

For portal has even everything.

Out and Aler last night and I know he hit the deep bomb late but was mainly atrocious.

Yes, and he's just I've always thought this with with quarterback play.

Two things that we don't talk enough about our toughness and just kind of instincts and he's tough, like he will lower shoulder.

They just don't exist.

They just not an instinctive player and to me more and I would say the same thing about Tyson.

I would say of the four quarterbacks last night, and I would include Gunner, Stockton, Aller was the worst.

Stockton made a couple of big throws, Like listen, he's not the best, but this guy's to me, Aller is James Franklin is gonna get tragged through the mud.

I'm sure this week.

I think they have a bye week.

They've been hyping this team, you know, for so long about just this game and how much it meant, because Penn State now has had like a two or three game regular season right for the last several years, so Ohio State, Michigan, now Oregon, and it was just it's hard for me to put it on him because their teams field felt ready.

It's the quarterback.

You recruit the wrong quarterback.

We've seen Dabbo do this when you get Trevor Lawrence Young, Deshaun Watson.

We saw it with sab him when he had Tua and Edojeron got Burrough.

You look really good when you don't, it's really hard.

And they went all in an Aller living in you know, some of my buddies back there went to Penn State.

They looked they were telling me a couple years ago, we got this guy supposed to be like Josh Allen.

That was the hype on.

Drew two years ago.

But I thought he improved so much last year.

At the end of the year, I was like Okay, if he does that again, he's a top ten pick.

But he just because they got the Kansas offensive coordinator that many believes one of the best offensive coordinators in the league.

So it's not their offensive coordinator who's excellent.

They added the Ross kid last night, they made some plays, they've added some transfers, they have great running backs, right, and it's just it's him.

I mean, obviously that's throwing in overtime, but he the first half, he was just atrocious.

The thing is, he can't just make the play more count, even Tys Simpson, he just can't make the plays.

So I was high on him just because I wanted to be I'd heard the hype and it just got to be out, you know, you just you just gotta be out.

John.

When I watched that game last night with Dante More and you and I use this word, but there is juice, Dante more, poise, juice arm like you can just sense it.

You can.

You can tell that Oregon totally believes in him and Landing totally believes in him.

And when you put guys on the same field, beget It's like when you put Mahomes and Lamar on the same field together.

There looks like there's a significant gap.

There doesn't when it's Josh Allen and Mahomes they're both great, lamar and and Malmes, there's a gap.

And I when I watched that last night, that game did Drew Aller no draft favors.

He didn't look like he was even on the same planet.

Okay, is Oregon the only school I get, Like you said, they're newer to this right of the last three decades twenty five years, but they don't have Have they ever won a national championship in football?

No, I mean definitely not in the modern era.

So it's like it, Yeah, it does feel like this team and Dan Lanning with the nil, they are going to be right there.

You just you know, college football is a little more random now with some of these games injuries and stuff.

You got to win multiple games.

But that was I mean that tight end they got, Holy Molly, I mean m eighteen is just a monster.

Their defense, you know, and this goes back to Mario.

They have recruited and Chip did you know, the Forest Buckner and Eric Armstead and some of the guys they used to have.

They have a very physical team because Penn State, that's the one thing they hang their hat on.

We're one of the fastest, most physical.

We're an SEC defense and Oregon's like, okay, so are we.

So it's like, well, if you're going to get that quarterback, play because listen, Dylan Gabriel, good player.

I know obviously that no.

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You know, the otter thing I'll bring up before we get to the Ryder Cup is that I was at the USC game and you know they were missing.

How far is that away from your house?

Two and a half hour train ride, two and a half hour drive.

It was warm and it was still.

There was no you know, it's it's farm country, so it was warm and not covered, so you know, the players it was hot.

But when Danton Lynn came to USC, the UCLA defensive coordinator, they went and bought him and they brought him over and immediately the defense was better.

And everybody was criticizing Lincoln Riley because Jaden Malevi throws to Lemon for the go ahead, touched down with like a minute fifty five left, and J Mack goes, oh, they won, And I text J Mac.

I said, Illinois has a great kicker.

USC secondary is awful, can't tackle, They're missing their best safety.

I said, Jmack, Illinois is going to drive down the field and hit the game winning field goal.

Ended up being closer than I thought it would, I said, but if you were, you know, I was at the game, Illinois was the much better team.

Illinois moved the ball up and down the field.

USC got no pass rush, and it it was I was swimming around on the internet, you know, last night, looking at stuff, and somebody brought up the point.

I didn't write it down, but somebody brought up the point.

They said, the defense has gotten softer.

They're bigger, there's no question there how much they paid for size in the nil portal.

They went and paid for size, and they've got it.

And they recruited a couple of big time freshmen, one from Canada, one from Florida, A Keem Stewart.

He was number four, that eighteen year old pass rusher.

He's a moster.

Yeah, Keemsteart's gonna be really good next year.

If they can keep their guys, they're gonna have a good d line.

No pressure.

Illinois got eaten alive up front by Indiana.

USC got no pressure.

And somebody pointed out they said, the longer Linn is with Lincoln Riley, the softer the defense gets and we can keep blaming Alex Grinch when you go to Oklahoma.

One of the knocks was defensively, they weren't stoops as defense, they weren't as physical.

They couldn't make big stops.

And somebody pointed out, like, is it practice?

Nobody questions the offense.

I mean they were missing offensive linemen.

They had, you know, a guard playing right tackle, right left tackle.

I mean they were all over and that's tough on the road.

Their college kids, and they scored plenty of points, but they couldn't stop the fighting.

A LINEI and sort of an average college quarterback.

They don't have big dime receivers.

Offensive line got eaten alive by Indiana.

And I sat there and I'm like, is it Lincoln, is it practice?

It's just once again an incredibly soft defense.

Can you can You can talk about injuries.

Yes, they were missing Kamari Ramsey, the safety, but Illinois was more physical.

For three and a half hours.

I kind of checked out.

And then when the game did they have multiple fumbles to even get back into the game, like Illinois gave them the ball back.

It should not have been.

They were getting their ask kick, Yeah they.

Got and I don't want to say breaks, because they created the fumbles.

Eric Gentry is the best defensive player of the linebacker punched the ball out.

So again, they were very opportunistic defensively in two occasions.

But Illinois was clearly the better team and did whatever they wanted offensively.

I watched the first half.

I was flying back from New York on the plane and they just lost sixty three to ten.

And Beilama is a tough guy and they won nine games last year, so you knew, especially big newon kicksoffs there, that you were going to get a team ready to play.

So if you're Lincoln all week long, you guys, listen that sixty three to ten means nothing.

This team is going to come out swinging.

And then that game opened up and it looked like a Belama team from Wisconsin.

They hit him right in the mouth and then they were also they ran like the Philly special.

I just went there just getting out coaching, and that worked.

Now I will defend West Coast teams in general traveling and the big it's a really it's weird on her, but that was they just showed up pretty flat.

They were getting warked, and clearly Illinois is not as bad as what we win this but you're getting a really good coach like Bielima is a tough guy.

I say this all the time.

You don't fake being tough you either.

You know the hardballer Dan Campbell.

They just are tough guys, right, And some of the offensive guys that aren't a McVeigh, laflora Kyle, they have to make sure to emphasize that on personnel, right.

So you just got to the leach guys.

Now you could say Lincoln's offense and I bet he would say is a lot different than what I was taught in fifteen twenty years ago for Mike.

But like, clearly they didn't recruit Alabama Ohio State defensive players, but they were never going on defense because how do you get good practicing against that offense?

So to me, there's a direct correlation in the way you practice, Like why have Andy Reid's teams been He's an offensive guy for twenty five years.

Ask any player that's ever played for practice is hard, yes, and practice the arm our, chin straps are buckled up.

We're not doing walkthroughs.

You say, the Eagles are a good example.

They don't necessarily practice as hard fan.

Joe will say that they get elite players, right, so you got to do one of the two.

And Lincoln's his practices are never going to be Nick Sabans or Kirby Smarts.

They're just not Look at Deboor, you know, de boor former offensive lineman, like he's kind of a tough guy.

His teams are pretty tough, though he likes to throw the ball.

I think they practiced pretty hard.

It's pretty serious.

I'm not saying Lincoln doesn't practice are but his offense clearly doesn't create physicality in practice.

And if you're not getting Pete Carroll's recruiting classes, they've done better right the last twelve months and to look better moving forward.

But right now the and thedn't wasn't their safety down.

He got sick or something the night before.

Come on, threw up that hurt because they're not good in the secondary to start, so like he's their best player.

But they showed up flat and Beilama's team showed up to win that game immediately, and it was like, damn, the USC was going to be in for a fight early on.

And let's face it, they're just what I think people's expectations for what for this program.

It just hasn't quite been the same.

Where on the flip side, wouldn't you say?

And listen, we were like after that Debor Florida State game, like this is kind of weird.

It's gotta give and how about that comeback over the last month.

I mean, you know what that guy is.

He's beaten Sark, he's beaten Landing, he's beaten Winningham, he's now beating Kirby Twise like lies.

They had an awful day.

But I'm watching them last night.

It's not easy to play National Championship easy?

Easy?

Who?

He gets a grub weird fit in the NFL with McDonald and Schneider.

It didn't work.

He does work with the Boor being his right hand guy, and he had Ty Simpson looking like, you know, an NFL player.

So I just went coaching still really matters, and it's harder in college because you're not you know, the twenty hours, even if that doesn't matter much.

But I sent a tweet this morning, I said success is hard and it takes a lot longer than the media and fans want to admit.

But Calin de Boor's coaching last night was.

It was magnificent and Greg Byrn texts me the idiot Alabama and we had a little chit chat about the process of hiring him, and he just said he's just such a great, great guy.

Can't go into too much what he said, but the point was being is I mean Nick Saban lost to Louisianaman.

They were fit.

Georgia hadn't lost in like thirty five games at home.

And by Georgia.

Now Kirby sparts one to seven against Bama.

I think, like, all I know is I watched that coaching in the first half, the play calling.

I watched Bama last night, and I'm like, if you told me Bama meets Ohio State in the Natty, I'd be like, Yeah, that's right, that's what's gonna happen, or Bama plays Oregon.

I think Oregon's win at Penn State and Bama's win are as impressive college wins.

As impressive as college wins get kids in those environments.

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Okay, we got to talk Ryder Cup.

So it began in nineteen twenty seven.

It was an exhibition.

It's no longer an exhibition.

It's essential.

And the Europeans dominate us.

And I'll just throw this theory out.

First of all, they you know, they trim the rough, so the rough wasn't punitive at all, and it became a putting contest essentially, and the Europeans get to draft select from a much larger pool than we do.

But I just watching it.

My take was this because I heard Payne Stewart was a great captain of the Ryder Cup team, the late Payne Stewart, Paul Aisinger.

Again, those guys had incredible leadership qualities.

And I'm not criticizing anybody for the United States, but it felt different.

I feel like we're just kind of every two years spitballing, and you can't have this guy play with that guy.

And we have a smaller pool, and we didn't play terror.

I mean, the Europeans did not miss putts.

They didn't miss Putts.

It was a putting contest essentially, But I do feel like for the Europeans they're better at team selecting.

It feels like it's a bigger deal.

The chemistry works.

It doesn't feel like you have as many egos, and I'm I didn't get to watch as much as I wanted to because I was glued to a T I went to the USC game.

I was glued to a TV the last two days for twelve hours each day.

But I watched a lot of highlights and anytime I could get it, I chased it.

And I went to people that I really respect in the golf industry, and I just feel like chemistry importance.

How much does it matter?

You know, they have like a Ryder Cup committee like the Masters does, and it feels like, you know, in the NFL we talked about how you're as good as your front office.

I feel like the writer the European Ryder Cup front office is really good.

You know, you and I are good examples.

We got pretty lucky.

We were born in a country where we didn't need to leave it to do exactly what we wanted to do.

For Rory McElroy to be the best golfer in the world.

He had to come to America.

Same with Shane Lowry.

Well, they both grew up together, so they've known each other for twenty five plus years.

They're both mid thirties, so when they play together and they won both their matches, those guys have been friends, like growing up in Royal Port, Rush for twenty five plus years.

They've known each other price since they were eight, nine, ten years old.

You can't Scottie Scheffler's twenty eight years old, so their friendship goes as long as he is old.

You can't the way Tommy Fleetwood holds justin Rose.

Those guys are both from the UK.

They have known each other forever and there is a bond that those guys have.

Terrell Hatton and Rahm dominated as a pairing these international guys imagine coming to America.

Now, by the time they become stars, they make a lot of money, they can live in the best places.

They still don't know anyone here.

You know, I meet people that knew my dad or whatever living in areas like there's just they don't have that.

Like Roy McElroy is not going to go to the store in Kansas and go you know, I grew up with your dad and text it like that's it doesn't exist.

So you are a true You're a foreigner coming here and those guys are the only people you know, probably especially those before you become stars.

So that bond and that relationship is different than our guys, who again they care.

Getting meant a lot t keik in, but you can't fact factor in.

And I was telling someone this when we were back locking up a nice big deal for the volume on Thursday night, that when you do a deal in business, think how much more comfortable you are.

Like you've known Jamie Horror.

It's a long time, yeah, so when you do something with him, you are much more confident if you were just doing a business deal with a guy you met last week or last year.

There is something to be said when you hear about some of these business partnerships or sports partnerships.

Steph Clay and Draymond played together for fifteen years, so when they won that championship in twenty twenty two, they had kohe built for over a decade.

That matters, And there's something like that in golf especially, it's not just for four round stroke play.

It's your dependent two of the rounds are literally alternate shot.

So you don't think Roy McElroy and Shane Lowry tried that out when they were fourteen years old playing on some crappy muni with no one watching, Like you can't fake that.

I mean, And there's also a we're a little bit more of an individualistic society over here in America.

Band you know, historically had bands.

We had rock stars, We had Elvis or James Brown.

They had bands, they had the Beatles.

Because you had to back then, you had to share equipment.

You didn't have the money to buy your own equipment.

I mean, it's like legendary if you go back and read the stories of it, Like European kids had to join a band.

You know, we have a different society, so we elevate the individual which is really beneficial.

We celebrate success, but it does feel like it matters more to them.

I would say this too, that they are pretty mentally tough.

When I was there on Friday, it wasn't as bad, but yesterday I think it got pretty aggressive toward Rory, and they could handle it pretty well.

I mean, I don't know if it was flip flopped and our guys were getting it, we would have crumbled.

Honestly, it felt like they got more energy.

And part of it is, I mean Rory Rahm and any Fleetwood he'll win more.

I mean, Rory's gonna go down as one of the greatest players of all time.

Rom you know, he's already won a couple of majors.

He could end with four or five.

He's an all time great talent.

Fleetwood clearly is one of the better players going right now.

When we you and I went to Live Hatton, who is an unreal player, Shane Lowry is just a vibess guide is awesome.

They have some serious talent who clearly are mentally tough.

Because Colin that was there were Europeans there, but it was a lot of intoxicated Americans and as the day went on it was hot and sunny.

I think saying, I mean Rory got his wife, got a beer port on her and.

Think he came back today, like listen, Ryder Cup It's no, it's not the Phoenix Open, but it's known as rowdy, so.

I'm not against it.

I'm just saying, but they can handle it where I just don't know if you had flip flopped it, especially like JJ Spahn, I like JJ spond Could you know, could those guys have handled or even Scottie Scheffler just saying mean things about his kid like that that's gonna happen and that's part of the Ryder Cup.

But what they were able to endure and play, I mean, they had the greatest two day run in the history of the event.

And every player that's worth their salt over the last one hundred years have played in this thing.

They it was basically it was impossible for them to lose, and we were mounting the greatest comeback of all time and it was still fell well short because of the lead they had developed through two days.

Yeah, people are saying they should cut alcohol sales, or they should cut the crowd in half.

I just thought it became a putting contest and they putted better than we did.

Like Chambly, Brendan Chamblee was on the Golf Channel and he has now it's been seen by you know, a million people, but he just said, like, I mean I looked it up now.

I don't know if it finished this way, but at one point Europe had eight of the top nine putters at the Ryder Cup, some of these I didn't feel like they missed.

So, you know, I like the Ryder Cup.

It's just this weekend.

It was impossible.

It's hard to keep.

No, it was totally.

It was the One thing I say about the alcohol sales is this had to be besides like the f one in Vegas, the most expensive American ticket, Like, I mean, it was a thousand plus dollars for general admission.

And you're walking in the boxes, you know, walking in or like it says Goldman Sacks.

So it's not This is not the top bowl of a Bill's Patriot game where you could get in for fifty dollars.

And I promise you this.

I had a few of them.

The cocktails were all like twenty two to twenty five dollars.

So the people screaming this stuff, I mean, it's probably a finance guy more, you know, Merrill Lynch, right, you know, it's not just like your normal riff raft.

It's some of these sporting events.

So it gets a little hostile, gets crazy.

But they kicked our ass, and yeah, it was.

It was quite it.

It's a pretty incredible events, just the amount of people out there.

You know what though, the truth is, John, if you go to the history of whether it's the World Cup for the Americans if we're embarrassed, or the Olympics.

We don't like to be humiliated, and we kind of got humiliated.

There tends to be tipping points for our country.

I mean, like remember when John Thompson, the late John Thompson took a basketball team to the Olympics and they got beat and then we were like, okay, we're gonna have our pros go like we're done with this shit.

The history of this country is when we get humiliated or taunted, we tend to bounce back.

Sometimes we get apathetic, and Europe does not with a Ryder Cup and we do, and you know, the world's biggest economy along with China, and I think it will wake us up and to take it more seriously.

But if you look, I mean, obviously this is where you want to golf if you're the world's great as golfer.

But it I just feel like everything I read this weekend, it's more meaningful and more organized.

The Europeans do a better job of it.

Well, I'll give you an idea.

We got a guy, you know, Keigan Bradley, was if he wasn't the captain, he would have been on the team, so he played a full schedule, did excellent.

Well, I know, a guy that's pretty patriotic used to train with the Navy Seals.

It doesn't have much going on anymore in terms of he's not a players.

Tiger Woods who kind of turned this one down.

Uh, he got injured and you know, the tour was going through a lot of stuff.

But to me, it's like, hey, Tiger, you're going to be the captain for the next six We'll sign you to like a three you know event deal.

Over the course of six years, there'll be three different we want you to do it.

You have all your ideas, you build this team.

Honestly, there were times today and Keegan's good buddies with Michael Jordan.

I can imagine some of our guys looking over kind of get intimidated seeing Michael, like I it's good Michael, Like for Scotti, Scheffler.

Maybe we got some other guys that have never been in this environment.

They look leftter there's Michael freaking Jordan.

I mean that might have been a lot, but he's not nice to win for the Europeans.

John middle Coaff, former NFL scout three and out Go Low his golf podcast and hour and a half.

This was fun.

Thanks Buddy, see you Colin.

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