What's up.

It's lip service.

I'm Antela Yee, I'm.

Gigi Maguire, Jeordie jor.

Hi, I'm Sarah.

Well, we are so excited to have you.

First of all, so congratulations on everything.

I feel like you're an honorary Brooklyn person now too.

Oh my gosh, yeah, I guess so if y'all.

Won't have me, oh no, we would love to have you.

It's an honor.

But no, seriously, congratulations, like Ruth and Boaz the movie on Netflix, thank you.

I want to say, did a phenomenal job.

We'll get to that in a second.

And then of course your biggest job as a mom mom.

Oh my gosh, I can't believe it.

Yes, yes, all I am.

It's so crazy, it's surreal.

Yeah.

And I've read that you found out while you were on set filming.

I did, like literally we had I don't know three weeks of prep for this movie, and like, going into the first week of actually shooting, I was like, I feel a little strange.

I'm waiting on my girl to show up knocking at the door, you know, the monthly girl and right, and she never came, and so I was like, Okay, literally I feel like right when I took the test and found out, I was like, I just I got sick.

Right then.

I was like, oh, it's really happening.

But it was great though.

I pushed through.

No, that's exciting.

And by the way, couldn't tell it all.

Thank you, you know what.

Thank God.

She like had some some turmoil to get through.

So I used us, You're like, I'm going through so much and I gotta let me bring this on.

Screw with me.

Did a great job, Thank you so much.

I remember talking to an actor and he was telling me he was getting ready for a role and so we were out and I was like, I got to get to work in the morning.

He was like, well, I got to stay out all night because the role that I'm playing, I'm like disheveled.

So he said that the director told him like to like get drunk and really like stay out all night.

Wow.

Yeah, that's a method.

I mean, you really to get what you're asking for them.

I'm not trying to do all that.

Like what do you channel though, Like when you're having scenes where you're emotional, where you're because you had to have a lot of emotion in the movie, Like what how do you manage to do that where you're really like crying and looking upset.

What do you think about?

Honestly, I think for me, what what works best that I find is just imagination, like just really trying to put myself in the shoes of the character.

A lot of a lot of things that characters go through on screen we can resonate with, right, like someone passing or you know, being mad, or like I was saying the other day, stubbing your toe, like you know what that feels like.

So I think you I just try to immerse myself the most I can in the in the character's shoes.

Yeah, and you know, we became really familiar with you from Empire also.

That was a that was the whole time.

You had some bangers on there too.

Thank you.

That was the whole time.

It was a whole long time.

It was a great time.

Yeah, you know, and look at where you are now and the fact that you can sing the way that you do, I do want to say, like even listening to you it felt like real emotion.

Yeah.

And the mask I appreciate that.

Well.

You know, baby Face wrote the record in the movie, and I think he has that sparkle to him.

Where he writes records that we can all listen to many different artists that have records written by him, and it just has that quality to it.

I don't know.

I think he just sprinkles his Babyface thing on it and the magic.

He really can't write for anybody, yeah yeah, but for women.

I feel like he writes for women in particular.

I don't know how he taps into it.

Babyface actually did lip service Wench.

Yes he did.

Yes, Yes, it was him and Arie Lennox together when he had that project out with like all women on there.

Okay, you know what he said, I'll never forget this during the episode because you know, Ari's like raw.

He was like, he doesn't curse ever, like in his music, and he doesn't.

Yeah, he doesn't need to.

So yep, yeah, I love that.

I honestly, I asked him and he said he took I think he said like a week because I was like, oh, you probably did this and like a day.

He was like, no, it's like a week.

I wrote, Yeah, it's still a day for him.

But you know what's It's interesting because nowadays I feel like when I'm in the studio or like just working on music, it's always so quick.

They're like they want to finish the song in a day, and it's like, I feel like the greats really did, like they take the time with it.

Like that's how the lyrics are so poetic.

Maybe it's because he took his time with this.

So I really appreciated learning that.

Even my hip hop, you see people just be punching in and like they're kind of like free stylid and then punching.

Also, the songs are so much shorter now, that's true.

Also, they're writing R and B songs with no bridge.

The raps only have two verses in a hook.

Like some people don't even have courses anymore.

That's true.

Yeah, some people don't even have courses.

I saw somebody writing abo you.

They were like, does she sing for real?

I'm like, yeah, she sings.

For real about this movie?

No general, because you're really an artist and sometimes people look at it it's like she's acting.

But you do put out music in real life.

I do, and I have some projects out.

I have a project called Archives that's out it's an EP, and also one that's flutter some singles, and I'm about to drop some more music too.

Okay, so let's talk about some of it.

Okay, I d f N.

Now, normally that means I don't know, But here what this means is I don't fix niggas.

Yes, yes, And you don't.

Relate to that raise your hand, white people, not even on camera.

It's so funny too, because I had a friend that like used the song and her stories the other day and she like screenshot a message and I was like, Oh, what's going on?

It's some's some you see stuff happening right now.

But she was like, like my words from my good Sisterrea, and my song is playing and there's like some crazy screenshot from a text message with the dude, and I'm like, oh, yeah about that.

Yeah, that song is like a great song.

It's definitely about just like hey, like I feel like if you know, if the man wants to be the man and the leader and this and then that, It's like I feel like everyone can have issues.

I don't want it to be misconscrewed, like the man has to be perfect.

But I think I'm more so saying like if you don't know what you want, I can't do anything for you.

Right, got to keep it moving.

Well, you fixed that guy, Joey because when he sat here on his couch, what happened?

He was polyamorous.

He was not trying to see attention.

Was that here?

Yes?

That was he said, right there, And I had my way up and I was like, I thought that you did seemen retention and I thought that you were PolyAm and I was like, and I said it.

I was like, when the right person comes along, all that's gonna go out the wind, and here we are and did.

And he was sitting there with his hoodie and.

Had mad guys in the comments like yeah, that's right, and I'm with Joey and now look at y'all.

Oh my goodness, listen.

I was so caught off guard because when we first started dating, I knew really nothing about him besides I was like, oh, you're the guy on Two Distant Strangers and I was like, oh, you also sing devastated.

Really, I was putting pieces together.

I didn't really watch Power like that, so I didn't know about all of the characters, right, So a lot of things I was starting to learn.

But as people started to know that we were dating, oh my god, that's all they talked about.

You know what he has said?

I said, how did you handle that?

I mean, I was just kind of like, so, what about this you from that was definitely before him?

That was definitely before him, But but it applies, I guess.

No, But you know, I love to see that though.

And I told him like, because I just had him on the other day, I look at him like my little brother because he's in Brooklyn, you know, same neighborhood.

I'm so happy for him to see this, you know.

When I saw that and seeing how like you guys are together, I told him I was like, at first, you denied it though, Like at first because you guys in the video and there was so much chemistry, people said you guys were dating, because you know, someone could be in a video.

That don't mean you automatically think they're dating.

Y'all looked like it was really having too much fun.

Yeah we were, but we were keeping it keeping it on the low for a little while first, I think is the way to go.

Yeah, yeah, for sure, I think that we just I just wanted to well, I had been in a relationship that was probably before, but he hasn't, and so I just really wanted to be like, hey, there's some things that come along with us, and I want us to be I was kind of more on the seat of like, I want us to be prepared for these things because I don't know if you know what it's like.

So, yeah, that's kind of like what we held off for a second.

But we couldn't hold off too long, right.

Because people are going to see y'all, like on trips together, vacation.

How did y'all meet?

We actually met at a mutual friend's like birthday, but we didn't hang out until probably a year after that.

He was feeling you at first, though I feel like it was you.

He was more like, I like her, I think so.

I think so I'll take it anyway.

Because I have to imagine in this business, it's not easy to take somebody seriously too, right, because, like you said, you had been in a long term public relationship, and then you don't want to just jump into something.

We're not jump in, but you don't want to just do something else, and then people are like, you know how people judge women.

You'll be like, oh, she was and even though that's the only person we know, yeah, yeah, and you've been with but then you know people do that, they'll be like, oh, now, she's with this guy or whatever, and so I have to imagine, like, for you, you were pretty cautious, because I know men don't understand it.

But I feel like women, because we know we get judged and held to a different standard, we are a lot more cautious about.

Things very much.

So you said it perfectly.

I feel like we get held to a different standard.

We want to be well some of us, right, I want to be cautious about it, and I think that for me anyways, at that point in my life, I was like, all right, it's not even about what people think so much.

I think it was more so I know what I want, and so if this is not going to be that, then we don't have to.

I don't want to waste my time.

Yeah, can you can we pop this wine?

By the way, best wine.

I'm sorry, I forgot.

I was so engaged in this conversation, and you know, just to bring this all into the movie, Ruth and Boaz too, because I'm want to bring some of the themes from the movie.

Oh yeah, that's my best wine.

This is South African wine.

Yes.

So part of what Ruth's character is in this movie is that she is somebody that comes with some emotional baggage, as I feel like we all have some type of emotional baggage, you know, just to break down, if you could describe who she is when we meet her on screen, what she's been through.

Oh my goodness, she is the girl next door that we all know.

I feel like Ruth had a lot of abandonment issues from her mother leaving her well, as a movie tells it, dropping her off at the front steps.

And then I would say that she's on a quest of a journey to find herself, to find what's next, and she knows that the situation that she's in is not serving her anymore.

And I think that we've all felt that before.

I'll try it.

Yes, I think we've all felt that before, in the way of like, when you're a determined being, I feel like, thank you.

I feel like you're always on a quest for like more and when your situation doesn't look like you know your life picture is for yourself.

I think that's what that's the journey that Ruth is on.

She's not looking for love, she's not she's not driven by money.

I think she just more so really wants a fuller life because she walks away from a six figure deal.

Right right?

So who does that?

I think tis.

A lot.

I'm like, I know, I mean, like real say, because that's.

Hard, you know what I'm saying.

They're not giving out deals like that anywhere, you know.

But so to that point, I'm just wondering if we could talk about this in the room, things that shape us into who we are in relationships based on maybe like our families or our childhood, you know.

Jordan, Like, let's start with you.

Just when you think about how you are in a relationship, what is it about your past and your family that has made you into the person that you are, whether it's good or bad.

Before I'm both think about your answer so we can to cheers.

I well, I lost my mom when I was seventeen, and I think that's when I shifted how I was dating before, I was like, ugh, I was dating non stop.

I had boyfriends the whole teenage, theom and after that, I feel like I had serious vulnerability issues out of fear of not being enough because my mom was an alcoholic and so I felt like she chose the bottle over me.

And so I'm like, well, if my mom is going to do that, these men aren't shit really in my mind, and I think that continues to be a struggle point for me, especially in this day and age.

Dating is just so hard to trust somebody that it's hard for me to like open up.

And I felt like your character had that wall up as well.

She did.

Yeah, I was just gonna say she definitely that those traumas are those trigger points.

Definitely.

It's not that she didn't realize Boaz was a great looking individual, you know what I mean.

I think it was what you just said.

She's just like, I have more at stake care.

Yeah, and she had that wall and she's like, I can't, I can't play around.

And I think when you go through certain things in life, that's just like how you move.

For you, Syria, in real life, what would you say, like from your family and from your childhood make you the prison that you are when it comes to relationships.

Oh my goodness.

Honestly, I would say I kind of resonate with Ruth on having the wall up because of just like past relationships and having a certain My mom was a single mom, and I had a lot of women, Like on my mom's side, there's a lot of women, so I didn't necessarily always see and my dad is very much in my life.

I love my dad, but I would visit to see visit my dad out of state a daily basis.

I didn't see a lot of a man in the house, like navigating that space, and it's very woman dominated.

And I think that for me in dating, in relationships, I ran into like you said, like trust issues and things like that, and so you kind of carry those those bags with you into the next, into the next, and then into the next until you finally realize, like, Okay, how do I kind of dishovel this within myself?

What are the kind of conversations they had about men being that you were around women a lot, because those conversations, yeah.

Yeah, it is right, like they get they get.

Pretty heated shit, right, right, and yeah it's true.

Yeah, just say the least.

Yeah, And it's kind of like you just when you grow up like that, it's like as a woman, especially a black woman, it's like you can't depend on nobody, You can't depend on no man to do nothing you butter just you gotta do it for yourself.

You're an independent woman.

And there's so many many reasons why our culture in our society that we thrive in or survive in rather is the way it is.

You know, there's years of different traumas that we all are kind of living out and trying to fix.

But yeah, being in that environment, it's very much I can't trust to depend on a man to like just take care of me, Like what does that mean?

How is it now?

Because we all want that soft life, because that's the thing now, right, Yeah, Like we all want it because I do feel like part of being able to love somebody is trusting them to do things for you because you can be so independent and I know you've been making your own money, doing your thing, but to let somebody like take care of you is really kind of like being able to be a little bit submissive at times, and it's not a bad thing.

Yeah, And I was just thinking sitting here is actually interesting because my grandfather and my father kind of instilled in me not to depend on the man.

And that's actually interesting because they do and that actually is way more common for for us as black women too.

Our fathers are kind of like they don't want us to be like solely dependent on a man for everything, and I understand that, but like you said, you kind of do.

It causes a little bit of a conflict.

I love being independent, I love working, I love striving.

I'm a goal oriented person, so it doesn't bother me.

But like you said, you have to find and develop.

The balance because a man still wants to feel needed, just like we kind of feel needed to.

So they don't want to feel like I got it, you know all the time, because sometimes they love for you to be like can you help me?

And we look and I have to work on that to ask for help in general, not just for my man, like just in general, yea, and I'm like, I got it.

Yeah, it's hard for girl.

I mean if I asked him to do something and he doesn't jump and do it right away, I'm doing it.

But how they have those means where you're like carrying a ladder up the stairs, because that's me, Like I'm always at home.

I'm trying to move couches and furniture because I need it done like now.

And so he's like, Dan, can I wait to the commercial?

No?

No, now, I just asked you, but I do.

I did have to learn that also to be like, hey, can you help me?

Like you know, I'm from New York.

So you know, guys, I'm used to opening the door myself, like me, it'll so bad.

Yeah, girl, the other day it's so bad.

It's so bad.

It's like, what is going on?

Why I can't let the man open the door?

Like if you touch another handle?

Sorry, but that's how you know, you know, you have to like allow that to happen.

You deserve it.

Yes, you push.

That man, baby out?

You know what I'm saying?

Just why am I opening doors?

Let's talk about you and how you handle things.

I felt like, okay, go ahead, wait, like no, I'm just saying when we first met, DJ did not want to get married.

It's just then she'd been engaged a couple of times, right, But go ahead.

The question about bringing yeah, like just your childhood and like what you know from growing up from your family?

What is that?

How does that plan into how you are when it comes to relationships.

I think that when I think about my childhood and relationships, I commed the stray away from the sexual dating relationship and more into like the family and friend relationships because we have different types of relationships.

And with my mother, she was my mom's house was like big Mama's house, like there was always a warm place to sleep and a warm plate to eat, you know, there was it was always very invitement in inviting and welcoming, and I see myself being that way in my adult life.

Like my boyfriend made a joke that I just recently moved, and I have a friend that came to stay for a couple of days and now it's been a couple of weeks, and he's like, every time a door opened in your house, somebody lay in a head And I'm just like you, right, but I'm just so it becomes a bet and breakfast exactly, And it's just like I am that person.

And I know I get this from watching my mother take everybody in.

I am that person that is always gonna share and be there and not even just with my home, but with my resources and my knowledge, you know.

And I think that's where I go straight to when when you ask that question, is that my mother was always the one that was willing to help somebody.

And I really think that.

And you also cook, and like you're very accommodating, not just to your man but also to your guests.

Yes, like GIZI will be up there making some devil eggs.

You know what I just cooked for Kaitlin for her birthday, and that's what she asked for us.

She'd be making some devil eggs.

I think for me, like growing up, so my parents they you know, they stayed married till I graduated college and then they waited to get divorced, like until I graduated.

But they never really were like in love, you know what I'm saying.

Like I didn't see them like very affectionate to each other, and so it never made me feel like excited to get married or anything.

So I always was like, I'm okay with just being together, like I don't feel like I have to do that.

And you know, my mom's always worked since I was really young, and so has my dad, and I think that like for him, it was just like be in the house, take care of things.

You know, we're good.

We didn't have to necessary we weren't.

We didn't have a lot of money, but we didn't struggle.

Like but yeah, I think that when I used to talk about not ever want to get married, I think it was because I knew I wasn't going to marry the person that I was with, So my mindset was like it's never going to happen.

It was like protecting yourself because you didn't think it was going to happen.

Knew it wasn't going to happen there.

Yeah, And I'm like, I don't care if we're stay together forever.

I don't see this being my husband.

So I just would be like, I don't want to get married, but I do want that experience.

Yeah you want to, Yeah, I'll be there.

Yeah.

Now Soria, you are getting married, you're engaged.

Did you guys like set up anything yet?

Do you have ideas of like where when.

We've talked loosely talked about different things, but we don't have anything locked in stone yet.

We got engaged like maybe like a month, a month, a month before I give birth, So I think, yeah, I was.

There was so much going on with my with my delivery, and I was just like shook about that and it's my first time, you know, it's a very scary thing.

And this blessing happened, and this blessing happened, like oh my god, I'm overwhelmed in the best way.

But he definitely asked me like, so what are you thinking?

And I'm like, let's just you know, we don't have to rush about this.

We've talked about it a couple of times.

We're going to revisit, he said.

He over communicates about everything.

I think the world knows that.

Everybody's sending me his little podcast.

I'm like, okay, but you have to communicate.

And you did share your experience.

You had a see sec right, and you had a doula also, right, And so I just want to talk about that because this is I think we talk about black maintental health care and everything.

I just love I love the fact.

And I'm only asking you because you were open about the experience or rest.

I wouldn't pry in that way, but I just want to talk to you about what that was like, because we always hear stories about black matental health care, the questions that we should be asking, what are these experiences like.

I can tell you that when I was in Georgia and I found out I was pregnant, was treated very different because I went to I went to the hospital to just make sure everything was okay and to like to get my vitals checked.

I was very sick and things like that, and I was treated very poorly there.

But when I got here too, Jersey and I started to do more research because I've heard of all the horror stories around the topic, especially for black women.

And I did the research and I started to figure out, Okay, what is what do I want?

What do I want my birth to look like?

And I think it's it was just really important for me to be around someone that I can trust.

Obviously, we don't know the doctor right, like, it's all just a scary situation.

But I do my research and I found this this doctor that's in Jersey, I think she's in Union, and she practices basically like water births and just births of where the mom makes all the decisions.

It's not the doctors and the nurses making the decisions.

And it's called a birthing center.

Okay, yeah, it's more holistic.

They don't they don't.

There's no medicine available, so if you want, yeah, so you're signing up to do like one hundred percent natural, but you get like, obviously there's there's emergency protocols if you do need to be transferred.

They're professionals, the real real doctors doulas obviously are welcome.

You can make the space how you want to.

You can light candles, what however you wanted to look And I was just really I was really enticed by that.

I felt like that was the most calming like and I wanted to bring my child into like a very calm like energy and welcoming in love.

And I think that was my that was my goal.

But when you're pregnant, you never know what's going to happen.

So he was breached most of my pregnancy, and so I had to have a cesarean, but I still had my doctor, so it was literally the best.

Still, it was still the best experience.

It's good.

I'm glad you did your research and knew that, like, you had options, things to do, and you were able to make those decisions.

And even if it is like a situation where it may not go the way that in your head you had it planned, you know, you felt like you did the best that you could do and had somebody speaking for you.

You know, also that was on your side.

Yes, yeah, I don't have to worry about that when it comes to Javon though Joey it's his real name, But I don't have to worry about that when it comes to him.

He's he's speaking of.

She asked me questions like yep, in the in the room, I'm like, so well, she asked a question, just let me do that.

His doctor like, did you eat?

I'm like it.

He's like, na she ain't.

Now, So back to Ruth and bow As.

I want to ask you this.

Another theme from the movie is originally you did not get along with the mother, right the boyfriend that oh yes, y yes, Naomi.

So originally that didn't happen, and that can be difficult in a relationship where somebody's mom like doesn't get along with you or doesn't like you.

In your lifetime, have you ever dated somebody and did not get along with like their mom, or have have you ever had like funny weird.

Yeah, one time, and it was very interesting because I feel like people that I've dated or you know, met ther moms, even if it wasn't like that deep serious or whatever, Yes, who.

Don't like me?

What did I do?

Was's boy?

Maybe maybe I feel like sometimes they get a little you know, jealousy.

Yeah, yeah, right.

That's what the mom was telling me.

How she said no, she was given that energy and I was just trying to figure it out, and I'm like, all right, I don't know what's going on here?

Unfortunately?

What about your parents liking people like.

Oh my goodness, my dad only meant probably one or two of the people I've dated, and two being Joey, So yeah, he loves he loves Joey.

I think my parents are very like my parents are very young.

Let me just note that my mom and my dad had me at sixteen seventeen, so yeah, so we're like now that I'm getting older and ages more relative, it's like they're the homies.

Like they're just very understanding.

Yeah, it's different, like I don't get the same, Like they don't judge me, like I think how maybe other parents, I don't know.

We just have a different parental like relationship.

They must be so proud.

We're like best friends.

Yeah, but like you got to listen to them.

One of my girlfriends, Yeah, we really talk like that.

Yeah, I'll be like, girl, why do you not see your phone work?

That's a great I like that though, because they have to feel so proud, because I think sometimes people could be really judgmental of that.

Absolutely, so they wouldn't be like so much like you went through a lot.

As teenage parents that you guys get everything thrown at you, the stereotypes, the whispers, the talking, you know, and so I think, now I know they're very proud of me, and I'm so glad to kind of be their champion in that way.

Now, Jordan has anybody's parents every not like you.

Yeah, no, hesitation probably like my most significant relationship.

He well, he and his mom didn't get along, and that to me was a red flag until I met her, and.

I was like, whoa was a lot.

Yeah, she was intense, she was a lot, and he was adopted.

So I just felt like there was this a very interesting dynamic of possession and it was like I was intruding on that.

Weird.

Yeah, it was.

It was a little eerie, creepy weird.

So I was like, Okay, didn't affect your relationship.

Absolutely, Yeah, yeah, Like I didn't go over there.

He wouldn't really say when he was coming to see me or anything like that.

So yeah, it was definitely tough.

Was this young I'm sorry, look.

Yeah, it was like we dated podcast he too, twenty four, so it was a long time.

It was a long time.

She had never warm up to you.

I mean towards I mean towards the end.

We were grown you know, so I think it was different.

There was nothing she could really say, but he was still living there.

What yeah, at home, at home, at home.

Yeah, she'd have been to that part.

I mean, that was a very tultuous relationship.

But yeah, we were not feeling each other.

What about ugi?

Anybody's parents not like you, Not that I know of, but probably so, because you know, we don't always know everything, haide it from you.

I think I only had one boyfriend whose parents didn't like me, and it was when I was in high school, and they were like, first of all, he was Jamaican, and anytime I would call the house, his parents would be like, he's not here and just hang up on me before I could even let that say anything, right, they seem right.

And then and then if they did, like speak, they would be like, did you just call her?

Hang up?

And I would be like no, but I should have day.

But he was.

They were mean to everyone like he I would be when I would go over his house.

He lived in like the basement, you know how back then so and his parents were upstairs like they did not talk to him.

They would literally go to Jamaica for the whole summer and leave him in the house, like starving, I'd be like a bagel we're.

Talking about because I neglect.

Yeah, that's just because we were in high school.

It was wild, but I could not.

But that's just how they were, Like they just were not even nice to him.

So all right, now, another thing I want to talk about, since we're talking about Ruth and boa As on Netflix, is posting everything on social media.

There's a part and I know this is going to happen, you know, where you get posted online performing it goes viral and you're like take it down and you got to watch the movie to see exactly why that happens.

But do you think we live in a like does it get annoying sometimes for you being who you are and everything that happens gets like posted online.

Yeah, sometimes pretty much.

Yeah, But you know it just makes me that much more mindful of like the times that we're in and how much my influence is being looked at or like, you know, I want to I don't want to say study, but yeah, being looked at, because it puts me back into the seat of like, okay, have purpose because I never want to be just doing anyal whatever, Like I really do want to promote and like be kind of like mindful of the message that I'm I'm putting out there.

And when I do get posted for whatever reason, I'm like, oh, okay, dang, they care about that.

I didn't even think that they would pick that.

Up, like, dang, I can't have an argument.

I got an argument with my boyfriend in the club the other day.

I left because I was like everybody was looking and I was trying my hardest not to go back and forth, but I was like, this ain't gonna look good if somebody's like I Like, I got right in at uber and left because I was like he was not listening.

He was like he kept telling me take accountability because and I was like, what are you talking about, Like, calm it down.

So I literally left, and I was because I was like, I'm not going to embarrass myself now I'm posted.

It looked like this, and I know we'll be fine later.

Why are you laughing at She's like I was smart.

She's like I stayed and argued, but sometimes you don't know.

We were both kind of like, wow, we didn't know that we had Pamper Rounds was giving and it was like all the storylines I'm like, yo, this is crazy, as real as it felt and as it was, I'm just like the fact that people were coming up with with argument headlines or like, well this is this is a lot.

So what was the craziest headline that came from that disagreement?

Oh, in the comments, I can't even remember it, to be honest, I think maybe like I think maybe they were like, this is for a movie, but this is giving a lot to do the movie.

But I'll take it.

But yeah, I do think we just in such a time when like people are posting every damn thing, like everybody got to be mindful of who could be watching.

That's why I already don't like to argue outside in public.

I don't even like to argue period.

I was about to say, who do you ever argument?

I know I can't see it.

Yeah, I'm not really like that if anything, and this might not be good either, I like shut down.

If I'm upset, I just will be like I can't hear you, and I will actually tell you, like I don't want to talk about it until I'm not mad, and I to tell right, because you don't want to say something that not maybe you regret, but that you know, is going to hurt that person feeling you speaking out of your emotions instead of really you know, So if that's actually a good strategy for it for you or a person who's like the softest person and the nicest person that I know, for you, get soft gg I mean soft like like see like we know not to try because you're from Brooklyn, but soft like you're so gentle, like you're so like I'm very mindful of people's feelings alive, like I try to make sure even like in talking to people, I try not to say anything.

Look, we have a good time, We're going to do our job.

But I don't ever want to be I don't want people to walk away feeling bad, and so I will say that like that's part of the mission of everything we do.

I want you to be like, I had a good.

Time, great time, you know, it's good.

That's good.

So I love that.

So when you found out you were having a son, how did you feel, Oh.

I was elated.

I've always wanted a boy I have.

It's yeah, it's just I'm just I don't know, I just feel like a boy.

Mom.

And then Joey has a daughter, and so he also wanted a boy, and so when we found out, we literally jumped and over the table.

I was like, whoa.

We were very excited.

So you want to have more children?

I would love to, honestly, it's just it's takes a village and it's a lot of managing.

So get a couple more a couple more jobs, a few more years.

When you think about some more jobs, like what else do you have on the plate?

I know Ruth and Boaz is out or you know when this comes out, this is out, but like, what else is going on?

Like, because I know you also have to take time to be a mother.

Yeah, I mean yeah, I mean it's it's kind of like this pushing pool.

Because I love, like I said, I feel like I thrive when I'm when I'm kind of like when I'm working.

I like to be creative and I love I'm a person that loves the work.

I actually love the work.

I love figuring it out and making seeing it to the end and being like, wow, this is a great finished product.

But with that being said, there is like mommy guilt that I feel right now.

And I know that it'll get easier and better over time.

But more projects are coming there's some projects that kind of like are starting to bubble, and I can't really talk about anything.

Nothing's really official.

But yeah, there's a couple of different projects that I'm like, okay, like this would be really really cool and they want me to be a part of them.

So I'm looking forward.

To those and music and music.

So I actually put out a record by the way, faithful.

From can we stop for one second?

Just acknowledge the fact that you are singing a song that the legends Babyface Road.

Not many people can say that.

I just want to pause for a second there.

Literally, that's amazing.

Yeah, so you pinched me a moment, thank you, And I really love the song.

It has this like country feel.

It's like the production is really cool.

I really loved the record for real.

And right next to that record you'll see on whatever platform you stream from, I'll put out a record called pds O.

It's called putting That Shit On and it's for my girllies.

So I want you to I want you to listen to this song and I feel like it's such a fun song and literally during fashion Week, I've been posting it so much fun.

Ah, this is my first time out the house in like four months.

Okay, so you outside, but.

You look so good.

Was that a worry for you?

Because you know, people talk about like the quote unquote snap back, but it's also take your time and do what you need.

But it felt like for you, I mean very easy for you to just was it because maybe it wasn't.

I don't know.

It was hard.

Okay, well made, well.

Thank you.

I think there was.

There was a lot of moments in the dark, right Like by the time I was kind of like showing myself again, it had been a few months.

So but I can say I can say that I am grateful for the snapback for sure.

And I love the little baby weight that my son gave me because I've always been a super small patigue girl and I'm like, I don't feel none of my clothes.

I love it, and so I'm enjoying that part of it.

And Kiki Key told me, grud it's gonna go away.

I said, no, I just just got it.

I feel like a woman.

How is your okay, I got it?

Is so funny.

How is like your How did you feel while you were pregnant, like when it came to being intimate, were you feeling more like or were you like, I don't feel like it.

I think I was pretty much the same until the end because I was just your body just is like I'm ready to like get get this out of me.

Yes, and so it just gets a little like just a little uncomfortable.

But that's pretty much the same actually.

Because I've heard stories people that like, when you were pregnant, when you think you were hornier, I had sex up unto the very end.

They said, that's good too.

I think the I think the last time I had sex prior to going into labor and delivererty delivery was maybe like.

Two weeks before.

Okay, yeah, he wasn't playing.

We was doing it.

What was my favorite?

This?

H look the belly on then.

That was the belly gotta just come over here.

That's so funny because when we were we were in the birthing classes too.

We took the classes together and they started to talk about those things too, because you're like prepping for birth, so all of the couples are like, no one wants to ask what everyone wants to ask, like, so what about sex?

Yes, of course, do it more?

You're like good And I'm sure he was not good I wanted.

But then afterwards they're like, but afterwards six weeks and all the guys was like.

Six weeks, that is not that bag, you know.

But sometimes guys are scared the thing.

He'll look to have you while you're pregnant because they feel like it's gonna hit the baby.

No one's that big, you're not going to have.

It's not how the anatomy.

But they don't know that, you know, as much as they be with people you think they would.

Okay, they don't know.

So let me ask you this.

You know, do you think you're gonna have?

Like, is this a Brooklyn baby?

Joey said, yes, But do you think you're gonna raise your son in Brooklyn?

In brook I mean for Jersey?

I know you yeah, I mean yeah, he's definitely East Coast baby for sure.

Do you like that?

Like?

I love that for him.

I love that I'm a West Coast baby.

I know that's what's sow.

But but you know, I actually really do love it.

I think I think I love the energy here.

I love the energy of the people, the men too, Like I love Joey's whole aura aura and how he is, you know, And so I I really appreciate it.

Yeah, Okay, I'm down for it.

Okay, now this something happens.

Drying to ask you, all right, Empire, do you still keep in touch with anybody from Empire?

You know what I do.

There's a few people actually that I was like really close with towards the end.

Not towards the end.

I'm gonna just say like we kind of got like new characters over the years, so Tyron to excuse me, I'm super was super close to then Caitlin and Ryan and a couple of different people.

I haven't seen them in a while.

Now I feel like in this in this new chapter of my life, especially living here, I think a lot of them still live, like in La or Chicago, because we shot in Chicago, so I go.

To Chicago on Monday.

I love Chicago.

It has such a special place in my heart.

But since COVID, honestly, I haven't seen many people, but we do keep in contact, Like I'll check in on people, they'll check in on me.

What about rush Air?

Have you spoken to him?

Have not?

Have you felt like should I reach out to him?

I honestly he It's so crazy because we were obviously like that was he was my lifeline on the show, like our our storyline was why I was still on the show for a long time.

And I had to work with him a lot, but we weren't We weren't that close.

Okay.

I think he's it was work and he's always kind of been in his own world, in his own lane.

You know.

He wasn't very like penetratable like as far as like you know, like a relationship with him.

So I always wish him the best and I always prayed for him because I don't know what that is going on for him.

I see all the headlines too, you know what I mean, And I see everything and I'm just like, damn.

Because he's super talented.

So I thought like he was one that.

Was like a natural yeah things.

Yeah, because even even when he did the New Edition story, loved doing that.

Yeah, he killed it.

Yeah.

I want him to get back on track, yeah, because I do feel like everybody is like has the ability to be able to inspect.

That is one thing I will say about Hollywood because look, even with Jesse Smallett, he's managed to get back.

You know, he had all kinds of drama going on, but he kept it pushing sometimes you keep it pushing, you keep working.

Yeah, you know you do.

What you gotta do is the people who will believe you will believe you.

The people who won't just won't.

You can fortunately face with anybody anything.

So that's what I just have to ask you that because I know you guys were like dating on the show, and I was like, I wonder if.

They were actually close and in real life.

I know.

Then now another person you recently channeled was Aliyah, and everybody was like, if there's another Aliyah like bio for anything, then you.

And I tell you I thought I was her when I I have like old pictures of my pants sect everything, I used to listen to all the songs they used to heard the songs in my room, Like I really thought.

So it was really cool.

I got that opportunity and I would love love of Love to play her.

And I'm not super big on like I guess biopics only because it's so like I just feel like you have to have that that biopic that's for you.

I love like Angela Bassett, Do you know what I'm saying?

Like I don't want to just be any Yeah, So like when when that when you can really, and I feel like Aliah is one of those for me, and I want to really.

Don't you think I could see that?

Yeah, you could see that.

I could see that.

Yeah, but I lovely and you know, if if it were to be something, but I would really want her family to be in front of that because there's a lot around right kind of appropriating people and their families not being involved, and that would make me feel uneasy.

Yeah that's good though.

You don't feel like a Hollywood type of person at all, you know, talking to you, because I mean really you're kind of like a you were kind of like a I guess, would you say, a child star?

Not that young, but this happened for you kind of.

I was nineteen, Yeah.

Yeah, your your breakout role was such a huge hit.

Yeah, Like The Empire was that shell when it was I was done a couple of episodes.

Yeah you were.

I didn't see you though hard I see him in the park.

It was like, and let me tell you something.

I respect how y'all do that?

Because I was only on there for like a minute and I had to film like day.

I was like, this is ridiculous.

How do y'all do this?

Like people don't understand how much work it is.

It ain't like the cameras.

Will you do the scene and then you leave a lot of Tyler Perry and then he takes that.

We had so many like artists and you know on the show, a lot of people, yeah, everybody.

Yeah, And that's the main thing.

Like a lot of especially music artists will come on the show and.

Be like it's at all day.

I take all day.

And even acting my scene was over, I still had to be there because I'm like in the background.

So now I got to stay there for like doing nothing, you know what I'm saying, just sitting there for like two No, it was it was like four hours.

I was exhausted and I wasn't even doing ship.

I was like, this is crazy test TV.

So I give it up to you because that is like that job is a real job.

People may think that acting is like you're just going.

And just know right, not at all.

What did you think you.

Were going to do if you didn't do this.

Oh, I would definitely still be creative.

I love skincare.

I would be a makeup artist and hairstyles for the stars.

Yes, I would be.

Doing I would be doing somebody's skincare, I would be having my own.

I used to I think, yeah, I used to think about having like my own spat things like that.

I've always kind of just been into like you should still space, yeah, the.

Glow, get through your own.

I really have a passion for care line.

That's something that's calling you.

Good for you absolutely absolutely, and you.

Ask me, guys, when you when you're into that and make you a guy into it too.

Oh, I've given him plenty officials.

I took all the credit for the glow, okay.

And the other thing is they sometimes use that very expensive product and they don't know that it's expensive products.

In my face, you got to know.

So much, so much, just so much, and then they don't replace it because you guys will use like bar soap on their feet.

Absolutely if that, yeah.

Yeah, you know, we got to use that everything.

I'm so into the details.

I'm like, so instead of making someone feel bad, I just kind of be like, sit down, let me give you a facial because I didn't see you wash your face.

Pull out the sea the hot sour.

I want to get you all right, it's about to get your steps to the stage.

And now look you look at you side.

You got all his facial products.

Yeah, I'm like, you have your own little routine.

You'd be like, what happened to my good lotion?

Had my lip bomb?

Like I'm gonna need that bad.

But listen, is there anything you want to make sure that we know that you have going on?

Because you know Ruth and Boaz is out.

Make sure y'all check that out on Netflix.

We all had an opportunity to see it.

You guys are gonna love it.

This singing is phenomenal, That acting is phenomenal.

The curly hair, let's get into that because I've been trying to make sure you know, I've been trying to be all natural, and I did really enjoy her hair, her curly hairstyle yours.

Thank you and looking at your her, so I'm like, yes, this is what they were going for, Like this really natural, like just go with the flow, crashing like yeah, not like overly done.

They didn't want her to.

They wanted her to feel very like a girl that you know, you know, and so I really appreciate that.

And like I was telling you guys before we started, they really took time on the wig and like custom made the wig and like made sure it was a big thing about this hair.

We tell y'all it looked good.

They really know what I.

Want to know what they're doing with it.

They got it.

Yeah, listen, they got to send you that wigi.

Okay, that beautiful custom.

You would really like give it a look, you know, really very pretty.

It was very pretty, very delicate too.

It was it was the finest wig I've ever Yeah.

I was like, well, things like that can't be duplicated, right, and who else had that fit on?

Right?

It's that I don't know.

Okay, but yeah, so so the skincare line is going to be coming soon, I feel like absolutely okay, and especially when you have a baby, and you know, that's how Jessica Elvis started honest trying to trying to find products that was suitable, safe, and I I really am that person.

Like if you follow me, follow me on Snapchat at Soria Love l Ov.

I really get into like my skincare and I talk about different things and I've even posted different skincare stuff because I'm just super passionate about it.

And I'm really into like the homeopathic way to which is like things in your house, like there's like tea tree, and there's sugar, and there's lemon and honey coconut.

There's things that you can kind of like whip up that kind of that serve you.

And sometimes I really feel like some of the chemicals are a bit harsh, especially for black and brown skin.

So we have to remember that part of it.

So yeah, don't get me.

I feel like that's.

All right.

And anything else besides that, and.

Yes, yes music, I'm dropping some music soon.

PDSO is out now.

And yes, and you see yourself going on tour.

I would love to.

Let me tell you.

I got an opportunity to go on tour with Tianna Taylor before, like years ago, and I couldn't do it because the Empire schedule.

But you know it's cool because timing right, it's going to come back around and it's going to be perfect.

If you need a DJ, I got you.

I love that.

It has to be hard to have to tearing stuff down because it's schedule issues.

Yeah, that has to be one of the hunting things when you have like an opportunity and you're like, but I gotta do this here.

Yeah literally, so, But but I would say that I'm also getting into my production hat.

I'm me and my friend Brittany Wynbush.

She's actually here in Brooklyn.

We are I'm producing a nonscripted show.

So it's a food and wine show.

We would love to have you on an episode.

Actually, okay, I can jump right.

It's not a problem.

It's it's it's a black girl that's dressed flies.

She's going around the city and she's taking you into these really nice, sophisticated places, but making it asking all the questions that we may be afraid to ask or we may be embarrassed to ask.

Okay, And when this started, just really quick.

This started from a conversation that we actually had.

So I'm actually alert allergic to oranges.

Yeah, not all citrus, but for some reasoner pineapple orange.

Okay, yeah it is to acidic, yes.

Same, so I'm allergic to that.

So we sat down for lunch one day and she's like ordering the wine.

She knows so much about wine, so I'm learning from her, and she's like, yeah, we'll have the orange wine and then the waiter leaves.

Of course, I wait till the waiter leaves and I'm like, girl orange, and she's like, oh no, there's no oranges.

In it.

And then at that moment, I was like, oh, and she's like, no, it's orange because the skin is left on the grapes and so from the contact of the skin being crushed, it creates the color.

Hello.

So in that moment something happened.

It was very divine and I said, Oh my god, this is a show.

And that was last year.

So we've been kind of like coming up with these different episodes and trying to get it picked up for a year now, and we're finally at this place where we're gonna go actually with our girl, Kiki Palmer okay on key TV, So we're going to do like small segments on her platform.

So I'm really excited for.

Oh my god, you gotta come.

So I'm hosting the cookout with chefjj oh okay, and that's going to be in New York on at So we're eighteen.

But you know, Chef JJ owns Field Trip, a whole bunch of different restaurants.

He's like a James Beard chef, and so if you're in town, you got to come to the cookout because you'll be all of the you know, all of the black chefs and everything in the city and he's got like an amazing event put together, so we need to love you to love like a food festival.

So she also loves connecting people.

I do I think he would be good for you because yeah, yeah, yeah, he'll be helped.

He has he actually has a cooking show on Cleo TV.

So oh nice.

Yeah, but that might be something that's a good you know.

Yeah, we're all about kind of just like representation and like we want to go to black owned wine vineyards.

We want to do and sit down with black Somalier's and like we wanted to show that there's there's more out here.

Yeah, okay, cool, all.

Right, Well, Sirraya, thank you so much for joining us.

This was fun having you.

Thank you.

I'm so glad you're like a you know, Brooklyn person.

Now she's definitely adopted you.

She adopted me today.

Yeah, we have officially been ignited.

It's Lift Service Hall of Fame.