Episode Transcript
[SPEAKER_03]: It's so bad.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's so, so bad.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's probably one of the worst I've ever seen and that's saying a lot.
[SPEAKER_01]: The comments are horrible.
[SPEAKER_01]: My first mutual says as a teacher this would make me want to end it all.
[SPEAKER_01]: The next mutual says anything but give us classroom time.
[SPEAKER_01]: Another unnamed mutual.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you would hate me so much.
[SPEAKER_01]: Our argument would probably end up in a lawsuit.
[SPEAKER_01]: I might know her.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, here we go.
[SPEAKER_02]: Administrators and principals.
[SPEAKER_02]: Students at teachers start acting like students in your PD.
[SPEAKER_02]: Your teachers need what your students need.
[SPEAKER_02]: Professional development should be engaging and regulating.
[SPEAKER_02]: Consider adding rhythm.
[SPEAKER_02]: encourage staff to get up and stand or color while they listen.
[SPEAKER_02]: Provide brain breaks or even having them get up in dance.
[SPEAKER_02]: No logic can help support admin with brain-based strategies to encourage your staff.
[SPEAKER_03]: Worst day your life.
[SPEAKER_03]: You're fucking kids cried when you dropped them off.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's some random, like, over-priced day care.
[SPEAKER_03]: And now you're here for teacher in service.
[SPEAKER_03]: And some big responsibility to bring out a drum and say, let's add some rhythm to it.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's why I had that wig on when I texted you because I was playing that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, we need to do next episode.
[SPEAKER_01]: We need to do another one of the worst PDs you've ever had because I need [SPEAKER_01]: It's like the lapology one.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's nothing fun here than what I just watched.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's, I love how they're just not acknowledging it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like when that came across my free you page with like eleven likes and twenty comments, I was like, yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: And like all of your mutuals that commented on it, I think that's because of me because when I commented on it, it was only random people.
[SPEAKER_03]: They were just like twelve random teachers being like, I hate this.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I was like, oh, y'all hate this.
[SPEAKER_03]: Wait till you see me hate it.
[SPEAKER_03]: And at first I really debated posting a stitch with them because I went to their account and a lot of them seemed like a very nice and well intended and they're very small and I'm always very conscious of like if a small person post a video me reposting it can bring like a flood of attention that they did not anticipate so I'm always like conscious of that and so I almost didn't post mine and then I was like wait [SPEAKER_03]: They did say that out loud online.
[SPEAKER_03]: And this is a company not a person.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I actually don't care if they get cyber bullied because there's someone in my city that is that same vibe.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I hate him so much.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I always want to post his stuff and say horrible things about him.
[SPEAKER_03]: But he genuinely is just like a father trying to make money and like I don't think wants to hurt anyone.
[SPEAKER_03]: So like I ran it in.
[SPEAKER_03]: because it's just like his first and last name and he like posts his kids and he does these education consulting things and it's also a teacher and I literally hate him so bad like every time he posts I want to just say the meanest things like all his ideas are so genuinely bad and I want to talk about it and then I'm like you know what he doesn't want all this smoke like it's right well that was a treat to begin with unfortunately that video wasn't a crime but after we take over the US government it will be [SPEAKER_01]: It will be punishable.
[SPEAKER_03]: I had to sign something for work.
[SPEAKER_03]: The other day, I decided to fill out new HR paperwork.
[SPEAKER_03]: So at the same thing where you're like, I have never committed a federal crime.
[SPEAKER_03]: I have never, like, there are any aliases I've used.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, just your government, shit.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was like, have you ever been a part of an organization dedicated to overthrowing the US government?
[SPEAKER_03]: And I was like, I can firmly say that I have not.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then the part that got me was with was like, if yes, please list the position you held and what years.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, you cops.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, and I was like, is I generally like, I've never been a part of overthrowing the government.
[SPEAKER_03]: But generally speaking, it's less organized than that.
[SPEAKER_03]: I feel like I don't think they have HR.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like in the organization to overthrow the government, I don't think they really have like specific titles.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think they all are just kind of overthrowing.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm so confused.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, do they genuinely think people are going to say yes?
[SPEAKER_03]: That's when I wonder.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was like, who's saying yes?
[SPEAKER_03]: I guess maybe is it like the proud boys or something?
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: Because it was also like, I had to list.
[SPEAKER_03]: I got like a super speeder one time.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I had to put that on there.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'd put like, you know, my fucking emergency contacts.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was like the just we're getting new HR stuff.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I just had to reef.
[SPEAKER_03]: I filled it out before, but I just had to update all of it.
[SPEAKER_03]: So they made all of us do everything.
[SPEAKER_03]: because they were too lazy to, I guess, check what people had already done.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I was like, no, I've never been a part of that organization.
[SPEAKER_03]: I should have put yes and then listed like daughters of Liberty, seventeen, seventy-two.
[SPEAKER_03]: See if anyone might called me out on it or even addressed it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now that's a good idea.
[SPEAKER_03]: The fucking FBI comes to my house.
[SPEAKER_01]: Who's a joke?
[SPEAKER_01]: Who's a joke?
[SPEAKER_01]: He was a joke, everyone who's listening.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, well, speaking of crime today.
[SPEAKER_01]: We are going to talk about some crimes, but right.
[SPEAKER_01]: I wanted to do a true crime episode that wasn't filled with horrors like gore and abuse and like just a buzz kill at the end of day.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, we wanted to do some fun crime stories.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and not even necessarily fun crime, but like solvable crime.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_03]: Like what someone gets murdered, even if you find the murderer, they still got murdered.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm more looking for like classroom out of ratio, like things that we can fix in the here and now.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I guess by fun, I just meant light.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Light or crime.
[SPEAKER_01]: Light.
[SPEAKER_01]: So true crime light is what we're doing here today.
[SPEAKER_03]: I feel like this podcast is going to give the same energy as when I'm hanging out with my in laws who like a lot of them work in schools, but they live in a state that the schools have like funding or not a state, but like a city where the schools have like funding and it's like good.
[SPEAKER_03]: So they like it's literally some of the best public schools in the United States.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so they asked me they're like, oh, what do you guys do about XYZ?
[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm like, oh, we don't.
[SPEAKER_03]: And they're like, that's a federal law.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm like, I bet you're right.
[SPEAKER_03]: And they're like, so what are you going to do?
[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm like, ah, because I've noticed for some districts, the law is considered the bare minimum.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like they're like, we're always going to make sure we're following the law.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like for them, that's the foundation.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then for a lot of other districts, I think like the ones you and I have worked in, it's more like the laws of goal.
[SPEAKER_03]: That it's like maybe one day we could get to that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like we all recognize that would be ideal.
[SPEAKER_03]: We are just not there yet.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we've had legal training, but the lawyer really just comes in and says, here's what grooming is.
[SPEAKER_01]: And here's abuse.
[SPEAKER_01]: You are a mandated reporter, and don't do the bad things I told you about, and I'll see you later.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like that pretty much it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Somebody once quoted Ed code to me, they were like, it's in the Ed code that we have to say the pledge of allegiance every morning.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, I think you and I teach in very different schools.
[SPEAKER_01]: Nobody ever handed the ed code to me number one or trained me in it number two number three we have bigger problems babe.
[SPEAKER_01]: With the ed code.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, they don't they give us minutes and then they're like okay you have instruction that you need to fit in for six minutes of ELA every single day and sixty minutes for nine other subjects as well.
[SPEAKER_01]: Can you manage that and then you're like no and they're like no we know we know you can't [SPEAKER_01]: This is a question.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is a question.
[SPEAKER_01]: The state says this is what you have to do.
[SPEAKER_01]: So you're going to have to get real creative with what qualifies as ELA because at the end of the day aren't we reading word problems in math?
[SPEAKER_03]: What is an ELA?
[SPEAKER_03]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: What is an reading?
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean social studies and science.
[SPEAKER_01]: while optional are all so ELA so you can really lump that all in there.
[SPEAKER_01]: I have a third one I taught third grade they literally had like the wonders curriculum for ELA or whatever and they'd be like oh this is our social studies curriculum as well because there's historical stories in the wonders book very familiar oh totally so [SPEAKER_01]: Um, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: True crime light is breaking the ed code.
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyways, don't quote me on that.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what's in the fucking ed code.
[SPEAKER_01]: Me either.
[SPEAKER_01]: But he's going to comment and be like, you're breaking the ed code.
[SPEAKER_01]: That has everything in it.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm going to say, we're in our houses.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's summer.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't even work in the field anymore.
[SPEAKER_01]: So you're in a prison.
[SPEAKER_01]: Prisoned by own creation truly.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so anyways, let me crack open the email.
[SPEAKER_01]: Are you in there?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, you want to get this rocket and roll one?
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh my god, there's literally so many of them.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: So keep in mind, I teach at a Catholic school is the toughest message that they gave me.
[SPEAKER_03]: And this is that we have screen shot of someone else's Instagram.
[SPEAKER_03]: I love when we begin.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, you full user name and all.
[SPEAKER_03]: This man was hired to teach chemistry.
[SPEAKER_03]: His credentials were that he was a divorce attorney and wrote a book about Michael Jackson.
[SPEAKER_03]: wrote a book about Michael Jackson.
[SPEAKER_03]: Our honors convocation is mandatory for teachers.
[SPEAKER_03]: He did not show up.
[SPEAKER_03]: Students found a video of him on Twitter at an only fan's night at a strip club that night.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I guess not technically legal, but it led to the unearthing of his true identity as nuclear man.
[SPEAKER_03]: He was put on paid leave and then let go.
[SPEAKER_03]: The salutatory him quoted him in his speech at graduation.
[SPEAKER_03]: The principal loses her mind if anyone mentions his name.
[SPEAKER_01]: he's you in Florida.
[SPEAKER_03]: I guess not technically illegal to skip the honors convocation for the only fans night at a strip club and then post videos of you there on Twitter.
[SPEAKER_03]: I guess technically that's not illegal but [SPEAKER_03]: I think it is a cry.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like we are a judge and jury and we are conveying this man with a crime because oh my gosh.
[SPEAKER_01]: I love that they gave.
[SPEAKER_01]: They gave you the screenshot of his exam and they were like, this is the man.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let me pull up the Instagram really quick.
[SPEAKER_03]: Look, he had a whole music video to shake your ass.
[SPEAKER_03]: I wish I could find it, but I can't.
[SPEAKER_03]: What is like shake your ass?
[SPEAKER_03]: What yourself?
[SPEAKER_03]: That one?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think so.
[SPEAKER_01]: Not to startle you, but I found it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Shake your face, wash yourself, shake your face.
[SPEAKER_00]: Shaking face.
[SPEAKER_00]: Shaking face.
[SPEAKER_00]: Shaking face.
[SPEAKER_00]: Shaking face.
[SPEAKER_00]: I come with a mic in my hand.
[SPEAKER_00]: Don't worry how I'm ripping the stuff when I flip them when I kick it is what I do.
[SPEAKER_03]: I love true crime time.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh my god.
[SPEAKER_03]: I need you to be ready.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, here I don't think you're ready.
[SPEAKER_03]: Do it again.
[SPEAKER_01]: Play it again.
[SPEAKER_01]: Please.
[SPEAKER_03]: Please send me these.
[SPEAKER_03]: Seventy seven years young.
[SPEAKER_03]: Can you feel the power?
[SPEAKER_03]: And if you truly wanted to skip the honors convocation to go to the only night fan, only fans night at a strip club, that's fine.
[SPEAKER_03]: Just don't put it on Twitter.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: My admin specifically host a session at the beginning of every school year where they say if you are going to use your sick days for a vacation, please put it in now so that we can get a sub and do not post your pictures until you have been back for a few days.
[SPEAKER_01]: One of the things about somebody that's like this [SPEAKER_01]: young man, seventy seven years old.
[SPEAKER_01]: You have not grown up on the internet.
[SPEAKER_01]: You have zero sense of like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like you're not thinking, I can't post a thirty photo album on Facebook.
[SPEAKER_01]: the day that I skipped my final, like maybe some of us did in college.
[SPEAKER_01]: You didn't have those lessons to learn the hard way, so you do some insane shit, like go to only fans night and just blast it on the internet.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hey!
[SPEAKER_01]: I need to go back to that, I'm gonna go so deep into this Instagram.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not good, but it's, it's bad.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is my favorite account on the internet.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, he's my Alex Earl, Jenny with me.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna follow him.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, so this is one title lighthearted true crime story.
[SPEAKER_03]: Long time listener first time caller.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm a former high school teacher and once upon a time I taught an a lovely vibrant Chicago high school.
[SPEAKER_03]: One morning the staff got a school wide email from a ninth grade English teacher.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think name redacted not me not me different.
[SPEAKER_03]: It said, I think, initials used AP has a turtle in her pocket.
[SPEAKER_03]: CJ told me that AP has been going to the bathroom often to water the turtle and put it back in her pocket.
[SPEAKER_03]: Help.
[SPEAKER_03]: Question mark.
[SPEAKER_03]: I love this being school-wide.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's exactly what I would do because literally wet the fuck, like everyone needs to know about this immediately.
[SPEAKER_03]: We couldn't demand a student empty their pockets.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, at my school they would have.
[SPEAKER_03]: They literally would have turned that kid's pockets inside out, like in the main office.
[SPEAKER_03]: And we couldn't demand a student empty their pockets.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's an insane question to ask if a student in the middle of this giant city somehow procured an illegal turtle.
[SPEAKER_03]: But also if there was a student who would have had who would have had found a turtle.
[SPEAKER_03]: and brought it to the school, it definitely would have been this student.
[SPEAKER_03]: I know exactly what she means, where it's like, this is impossible, but if anyone was going to do it, it would be you.
[SPEAKER_03]: It would definitely be you.
[SPEAKER_03]: Words spread.
[SPEAKER_03]: Students from all grade levels are discussing the potential turtle and AP's pocket.
[SPEAKER_03]: We get in a second email from the English teachers from the English teacher.
[SPEAKER_03]: Students have gotten back to me now that AP knows the teachers are on to the turtle and her pocket.
[SPEAKER_03]: XR has told me that AP has now placed the turtle in her locker.
[SPEAKER_03]: Keep your eye out, I guess.
[SPEAKER_03]: Question mark.
[SPEAKER_03]: The turtle was initially not found.
[SPEAKER_03]: We all moved on.
[SPEAKER_03]: I thought it was made up.
[SPEAKER_03]: A year later, I'm teaching my tenth grade class and I have AP in the class.
[SPEAKER_03]: A student, DUI, is sitting across from AP in the independent study that I was overseeing.
[SPEAKER_03]: DUI says to me, Ms.
[SPEAKER_03]: X, did you know that AP brought a turtle to school last year?
[SPEAKER_03]: AP laughs.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know what, I totally forgot about that.
[SPEAKER_03]: But I did hear that.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was probably just a rumor, though.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's real.
[SPEAKER_03]: D-Y says, I had to help her dispose of its body from her locker after it died.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god.
[SPEAKER_01]: What is that ending?
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, it's not over.
[SPEAKER_03]: There was a dead turtle and AP's locker for how long.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know, she got it from the river.
[SPEAKER_03]: Me looking horrified at AP.
[SPEAKER_03]: What?
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, my mom didn't let me take him home, AP sets.
[SPEAKER_03]: And this lady's in gentleman is why admin need to spend time in the classroom, because truly, how could a non-teacher ever understand this scenario?
[SPEAKER_01]: That is...
[SPEAKER_01]: unreal.
[SPEAKER_03]: And that is a crime.
[SPEAKER_03]: That is animal cruelty.
[SPEAKER_03]: You took an animal out of its natural river habitat and brought it into a school and murdered it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think you did that intentionally as a child.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think they just thought this was going to go differently than it went.
[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, that is a crime.
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you for sharing that.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's the perfect level of crime we were looking for.
[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_01]: Mailed it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, here we go.
[SPEAKER_01]: It says, okay, I've always been a very gifted, I've always been very gifted in school, but struggle with neurodivergence and mental health, me too.
[SPEAKER_01]: This all hit a wall when I got to high school.
[SPEAKER_01]: As a result, my therapist and school admin created a five-o-four plan for me and it was very helpful when it was utilized.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was taking AP live at the time and had a tough teacher, not only because of material, but because of behavior.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was often cut short on my extra test time or denied access to a separate room.
[SPEAKER_01]: My five-o-four included an alternate stack of homework I often did not receive.
[SPEAKER_01]: Needless to say, I fell behind in class.
[SPEAKER_01]: When it spiraled to a point where I was in need of a teacher parent conference because I was in jeopardy of failing, my AP teacher told me he, quote, [SPEAKER_01]: could not imagine a world where he was willing to administer my accommodations and alluded that perhaps I was just not focused enough for class.
[SPEAKER_01]: After a few more weeks, yeah, yikes.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was clear he was not willing to work with me and I went back to common core classes for my grade.
[SPEAKER_01]: His words have rang in my ears anytime I enter or consider entering another academic space and I often have to remind myself that I am not dumb just because I learned differently.
[SPEAKER_01]: Amen.
[SPEAKER_01]: I have spent most of my school years with incredible nurturing teachers pushing my parents to let me shine intellectually and testing for giftedness and putting me in front of amazing opportunities.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that one class with that one teacher derailed my confidence in a way I never really recovered from.
[SPEAKER_01]: I literally hate that for you and boy who I have things to say about this crime.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think a lot of teachers that are like very removed from this special education world, if they know about any type of plan, they know about an IEP.
[SPEAKER_01]: They don't necessarily know about a five-o-four, and they probably don't know about a BIP.
[SPEAKER_01]: But the thing about Five-O-Fours is my brother's on one.
[SPEAKER_01]: He has Type-One Diabetes, and he has a Five-O-Four.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't think he would care that I'm saying that.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's fine.
[SPEAKER_01]: Where the Dex Common is on, it's very clear that he has Type-One.
[SPEAKER_01]: Although I've recently discovered that people are wearing Dex Combs for like...
[SPEAKER_01]: Diet culture purposes, which is blue my mind.
[SPEAKER_03]: Wait, are they like not doing anything?
[SPEAKER_03]: Like it's just like on there like a necklace.
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, they they track their blood sugar with it to like see if they're spiking if they're in ketosis or like Oh, so things like that like not because they're diabetic just because they're obsessed with their blood sugar.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I think I thought that dex comes like we're putting a medication at you and I they're not I think it's just to [SPEAKER_01]: No, there are pumps that work with that, that you can like have pumps put insulin in you.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I had gestationally wore one.
[SPEAKER_01]: My brother, he had version five of the Dexcom or something.
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe it was six.
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyways, he couldn't use them anymore because his pump is only compatible with the newest Dexcom.
[SPEAKER_01]: So he was like, you're a sister.
[SPEAKER_01]: Would you like my fucking hand be down with Dexcom?
[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, yes, I would.
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you so much.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so I was using those.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm highly allergic to them.
[SPEAKER_01]: I had a rash for like two weeks.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then I had to stop using them.
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyways, that's enough out of me.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so horrible.
[SPEAKER_01]: Or that he has what happened to you, submitter is like pretty much exactly what happened to my brother, both in high school and in college.
[SPEAKER_01]: He just had a professor literally like [SPEAKER_01]: recently say, my brother needed his final to be at a specific time.
[SPEAKER_01]: It did not happen.
[SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't scheduled that way.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he emailed his professor and said, hey, I something needs to change with how this is scheduled because of my travel for.
[SPEAKER_01]: And in writing, the professor wrote back and said, [SPEAKER_01]: I don't care if anybody in my class is having a life or death situation.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is what when the final is.
[SPEAKER_01]: And there will be no make-ups or adjustments to it.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he put it in writing and my mom.
[SPEAKER_01]: Say it, forget it, write it, regret it.
[SPEAKER_01]: My mom read it and I was like, giddy.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, keep with that in writing.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're like, oh, I was like, I love when they're stupid.
[SPEAKER_01]: You use your dot EDU official university email address to say that.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like somebody's getting retrained.
[SPEAKER_03]: Someone's going to a class for fucking sure.
[SPEAKER_01]: Enjoy your class, sir.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, well, that's illegal.
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, these five or four is people just really, you just are fast and loose with them.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, I've had people in my comment sections tell me like, oh, they're not a real plan.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, oh, you're gonna go to a class, too.
[SPEAKER_01]: If I can find your LinkedIn.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're all going to class.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're all, I'll come too.
[SPEAKER_01]: Just to watch, make sure you're doing good.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, wow, that sucks, dude.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_01]: I said that to you.
[SPEAKER_03]: What an unfortunate time to be alive in that.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I hate like the process is so fucking degrading and so many people are so uneducated.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like this is coming soon your way on teacher quit talk.
[SPEAKER_03]: My therapist was like you're actually going to apply for an accommodation because [SPEAKER_03]: your brain is not braiding.
[SPEAKER_03]: The way it needs to and the way that my school and district handled it, I was like, for sure, you guys, for sure.
[SPEAKER_01]: That was awful.
[SPEAKER_01]: It really really was.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're gonna hate it for you, just like I did.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, I'm ready.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, here, let me pull off another one.
[SPEAKER_03]: No crimes in twenty-five was our department slogan.
[SPEAKER_03]: Our department?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: Our department head, a retired cop, a derogatory, with one year of teaching experience, administered the end of year language test for ELLs and swapped the test tickets for two kids with similar names.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm making up names, but think like Maria versus Mary, or Jose versus Jose, like one with a U one without.
[SPEAKER_03]: He was administering the test to my students while I was a roving monitor to multiple other rooms.
[SPEAKER_03]: During the test, he ripped headphones off their heads and screamed in their faces, despite knowing that they had just moved into the country and didn't know what he was saying.
[SPEAKER_03]: When I returned to my classroom, my students rushed towards me and explained [SPEAKER_03]: My student rushed towards me and explained in his home language that he had the wrong ticket and tried to tell the teacher, but he didn't believe them.
[SPEAKER_03]: And he said even in English, he said that he even said in English because he knew he didn't understand the man is no me.
[SPEAKER_03]: So the kid who's like a new English speaker is bringing the ticket to this random man being like, is no me?
[SPEAKER_03]: Like this is not me.
[SPEAKER_03]: And the teacher did not believe it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I told my department had about the mistake he made.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is not good.
[SPEAKER_03]: And he said it doesn't really matter.
[SPEAKER_03]: They probably got the same score anyway.
[SPEAKER_03]: And like if you've never been a part of English language learner testing, it's not just like, oh, they got an eighty out of a hundred.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like here's how they're doing on speaking, writing, listening.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like there's a bunch of different sub categories that are actually [SPEAKER_03]: like very much informative to a teacher because let's say I have English language learner that's doing horrible on listening in English but they score really high on reading in English I'm going to provide them more written directions rather than trying like verbalized directions to them so like even if hypothetically this guy's right and these kids are about the same level it's much more nuanced than that it's not just like a like overall score [SPEAKER_01]: And if you're not going to get the accommodation that you need, you're literally kind of screwed.
[SPEAKER_01]: How are you going to participate in school?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's really coordinator like the department had to be the one that's like, oh, it's probably the same.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no.
[SPEAKER_01]: Not good.
[SPEAKER_03]: Unfortunately, it keeps going.
[SPEAKER_03]: Also, a COVID era IEP failure, so this is a different story from the same person.
[SPEAKER_03]: I had a seventh grade student move in from another country.
[SPEAKER_03]: She spoke no English at all and was totally blind.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think she means literally, not just like metaphorically.
[SPEAKER_03]: They said that since she had just moved to the country, they had to wait three years to test her for an IEP because they have to prove any deficiencies that aren't due to language barriers.
[SPEAKER_03]: She had to walk through crowded hallways by herself, not being able to see anything and understand anyone around her.
[SPEAKER_03]: Luckily, some really sweet classmates helped her find her way every day.
[SPEAKER_03]: She was a maid and zing, and I admire her courage so much.
[SPEAKER_03]: She's graduating next year.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's crazy.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Because there are some things like behaviorally, maybe.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I could see three years as crazy.
[SPEAKER_01]: But like, you know, [SPEAKER_01]: We can make a baby argument for that, but blindness.
[SPEAKER_03]: And this is why being a teacher is hell, because you literally just get gas lit, where they will, someone will fully look at you in your face.
[SPEAKER_03]: And be like, well, how do we prove the deficiencies about a literal blind person?
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, do you think she's fucking faking it?
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, what do you mean?
[SPEAKER_03]: How do we prove the deficiencies?
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, what else is there?
[SPEAKER_01]: Unreal.
[SPEAKER_01]: And do.
[SPEAKER_01]: Do we not have any kind of test in a different language?
[SPEAKER_01]: Did Google translate die?
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, no, they're saying that, like, basically, because I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: I've run into this before that, like, they, if a kid doesn't speak English, it's assumed that all of their problems are because they don't speak English.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: I just feel like we could get a psychologist up in there and figure that out.
[SPEAKER_01]: I just feel like there has to be something else.
[SPEAKER_01]: And you can separate the behavior issues from the language or the deficiencies or the learning disability.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I feel like you can evaluate a kid for ADHD and separate this fact that they're struggling to acquire language because as somebody with ADHD, I feel like it would be a bajillion times harder for me if I was unmedicated in a setting where I didn't understand a language or didn't understand it well versus like [SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like we could separate that.
[SPEAKER_01]: But if you have something like a learning disability and you're not getting the support that you need for your language acquisition, then your language acquisition is going to go so much slower.
[SPEAKER_03]: God, things are not good.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, it's so freaking frustrating.
[SPEAKER_01]: God dang it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now I'm mad.
[SPEAKER_01]: That was a crime that made me angry.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's read another one.
[SPEAKER_01]: I love to feel things.
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like it's good.
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyways, ooh, here we go.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is another one you know I get mad about.
[SPEAKER_01]: At my last school I taught second grade.
[SPEAKER_01]: I have since had a baby in quit, me too, queen.
[SPEAKER_01]: They only hunt twenty minutes of recess scheduled for the kids.
[SPEAKER_01]: This was scheduled with their specials time.
[SPEAKER_01]: They had thirty minutes for specials and twenty minutes for recess with their specials teacher.
[SPEAKER_01]: However, they never got that time between specials running over and so many behaviors they simply refuse to take them outside.
[SPEAKER_01]: So they would get five to ten minutes of recess sometimes and then other times nothing.
[SPEAKER_01]: In my state, students are required to receive thirty minutes of recess a day.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I reached out to admin with my concerns and they stated that they were able to get their movement out, quote, during transitions and during our morning meeting and that the laws were being met.
[SPEAKER_01]: Nothing changed, of course, and things just got worse, but I have my baby after Q-two, so it was no longer my problem.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you happen to just let go in that God sometimes, I understand that, but the recess, the recess, the recess of it all.
[SPEAKER_01]: The recess of it all drives me nuts, because yes, it is a law in some states that you have to have recess as it should be, and it's a crime to take recess away if you're wondering.
[SPEAKER_01]: The Geneva Convention also says that you're not allowed to do that.
[SPEAKER_01]: They told me.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Geneva called me.
[SPEAKER_01]: But it is usually a group punishment.
[SPEAKER_01]: Me and Geneva go way back.
[SPEAKER_01]: Y'all don't even know.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, Geneva and me like this.
[SPEAKER_01]: So anyways, but the in California, it's also a law that you have to have sixty minutes of [SPEAKER_01]: P.E.
[SPEAKER_01]: instruction a day and then you have to at the end of the day, at least when I worked in Long Beach, they had me do.
[SPEAKER_01]: You have to fill out a sheet that says that you swear to God that you gave them their P.E.
[SPEAKER_01]: minutes and then you have to sign it and send it in.
[SPEAKER_01]: People are really just fuss-fudge in that.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's on top of recess.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's like recess and PE.
[SPEAKER_01]: They have to get.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's why a lot of us ended up having a THPE because you do it every single day.
[SPEAKER_01]: My pregnant ass was not doing very effective PE, but they were running.
[SPEAKER_01]: They were my kids.
[SPEAKER_01]: Did I ever tell you about the fact that my kids that beat the shit out of each other?
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't let them play kickball with a ball for a while.
[SPEAKER_01]: So they were playing kickball with an imaginary ball because they kept kicking it into people's heads.
[SPEAKER_01]: One of my kids kicked the ball into a teacher's had and gave her a TBI, a traumatic brain injury.
[SPEAKER_01]: They didn't get the ball.
[SPEAKER_01]: They couldn't play basketball after that.
[SPEAKER_01]: So what was I supposed to do?
[SPEAKER_01]: The basketball game tomorrow.
[SPEAKER_01]: But they don't.
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you want me to read another one or do you want to do that one?
[SPEAKER_01]: Here you do another one because I did a double.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay perfect.
[SPEAKER_01]: This one says the twenty four twenty five school year was my second year teaching but my first full school year.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I was given inclusion eighth grade.
[SPEAKER_01]: They gave me an inclusion teacher who had had issues with all six teachers before me.
[SPEAKER_01]: And she got mad and for doing lesson plans.
[SPEAKER_01]: You just know that that person is like all these teachers suck.
[SPEAKER_01]: But you know what baby when you are the problem six teachers in a row.
[SPEAKER_01]: You are the problem.
[SPEAKER_03]: My department is the department at my school where it's like, oh, this co-teacher has nowhere else to go.
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's bring them here.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like we are in it because it's y'all know I love social studies education.
[SPEAKER_03]: So this is not my sentiment, but it's the government's [SPEAKER_03]: that like no one really gives a fuck about social studies so like no matter what area you're an expert in or certified in if you like can't get along with those people they're like just knock them over to social studies because we always get tons of people that the math department is like no like it's a no from us and the admin are like let's just send them to social studies y'all know I love my co-teacher I've had the same co-teacher the entire time I've taught there she just got promoted though so pray for me [SPEAKER_03]: But that's a writer.
[SPEAKER_03]: Almost all of my colleagues get a new person every single semester.
[SPEAKER_03]: And like the reason why me and her have stayed together is because like we've kind of been the only example of like effective code teaching.
[SPEAKER_03]: So our direct quote from our old principal, why would I fuck up the one thing going well when she was making our schedules?
[SPEAKER_03]: Because it's like unheard of that me and her have been together for two full years.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's four semesters, four different rosters.
[SPEAKER_03]: But we're only together one period a day.
[SPEAKER_03]: So it's a lot.
[SPEAKER_01]: My God.
[SPEAKER_01]: This person's co-teacher sounds at the peach.
[SPEAKER_01]: It says she got mad at me for doing lesson plans instead of letting her help.
[SPEAKER_01]: But they were always shared with her and she never added differentiation.
[SPEAKER_01]: But the crimes she did not differentiate, pull kids.
[SPEAKER_01]: follow IEPs or help in any manner.
[SPEAKER_01]: And the most heinous, she quit two months before SOLs.
[SPEAKER_01]: So me, a previously licensed second year teacher in a school accredited with conditions taught without a special education slash inclusion teacher.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, hi for as in redacted.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if this would work at your, I don't know if this would work for your episode, but when I was a student in high school, it was well known that one of the English teachers, Mr.
R, had a wife that left him for another English teacher, Miss G.
[SPEAKER_03]: Again, not a crime, but I'm here for it.
[SPEAKER_03]: The two of them ended up getting married and adopting two kids together.
[SPEAKER_03]: People would say that that's the reason why there were two separate English offices for the English teachers.
[SPEAKER_03]: Not sure if the part about the office is true, but the English teacher scandal definitely was.
[SPEAKER_03]: Also, a few years after I graduated high school, it was discovered that the assistant principal was caught having an affair with the earth science teacher, both were married with children.
[SPEAKER_03]: They were quite literally caught by the dad of someone I graduated with, who's a police officer in an apartment parking lot in a car.
[SPEAKER_03]: The AP does not work there anymore.
[SPEAKER_01]: God.
[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, not a crime, but a crime.
[SPEAKER_01]: A crime.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I just think people that she with their significant others at school are so shitty or she cheat on their significant others at school with other people that work at the school.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like extra layers of shitty beyond just the cheating element.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, but you're going to trap your ex with [SPEAKER_01]: Your coworker that you slept with.
[SPEAKER_03]: Look, it's so small town.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, you literally couldn't find anyone else.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, get on Tinder.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, find someone at like, in Amazon fulfillment warehouse.
[SPEAKER_03]: I know they lay it down good over there.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, find someone.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like a garbage man.
[SPEAKER_03]: Or like, even the district office would be better.
[SPEAKER_01]: The district office would be fine.
[SPEAKER_01]: Whatever.
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyways, here we go.
[SPEAKER_01]: True crime, teacher quit talk.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, so this is like juicy, but bad.
[SPEAKER_01]: In my third year teaching, I was employed at a small title one district teaching at the high school.
[SPEAKER_01]: We were plagued by the normal issues presenting to educators post COVID.
[SPEAKER_01]: Large class sizes, unqualified teachers and admin, minimal practical discipline for modern teens, parents who lose their mind over literally any accountability for their child, you know, the works.
[SPEAKER_01]: But it all accumulated in what was almost a lawsuit.
[SPEAKER_01]: Early in the year, October through November, three of my kids were arrested for making written threats toward the school.
[SPEAKER_01]: I found out before they were arrested that the written threats included a hit list of several students at the school.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god, we had a hit list situation.
[SPEAKER_01]: I forgot about that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Wow, that unearthed a memory.
[SPEAKER_01]: Since several months later, in the fourth quarter of school, April March, several of my students approached me at different times to inform me that there had been a digital threat against me.
[SPEAKER_01]: Dozens of students had been anonymously sent a graphic message about how the sender planned to, oh dear, rape and kill me on the way home for work.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was so graphic and traumatizing to the students that I even had parents calling me and warning me about the message.
[SPEAKER_01]: When I told them that if it was serious, I was sure my admin would tell me about it.
[SPEAKER_01]: They have not to laugh at you, but like, whoa, which you were really in it to just be like, you know what?
[SPEAKER_01]: It'll be fine.
[SPEAKER_01]: It'll be probably okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because my guess is your admin didn't even know about it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyways, continuing.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was told by multiple students and parents that while that they were telling me personally, oh, here it is.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because they didn't think Adam would tell me specifically because Adam had not told them that their children had been on the threat list earlier in this school year.
[SPEAKER_01]: I finally approached my admin about it just to inform them of what the school community was saying and they told me it wasn't true and not to worry about it.
[SPEAKER_01]: A day later.
[SPEAKER_01]: A day later I got a call from the county justice center informing me of a court date for a crime I was a victim of.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was shocked because even if it regarded the recent threat, it had only been a few days and I had not been informed that the case was solved.
[SPEAKER_01]: I asked the caller to clarify what crime and she informed me that it had to do with threats made in October, November.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was stunned and through further questioning I discovered I was on the original hit list from earlier in the year and had never been informed.
[SPEAKER_01]: At this point, I went straight to the superintendent with both concerns and found out that the superintendent himself had made the call not to inform victims of the original threat, because it was determined to be, quote, non-credible by the local police department.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he didn't want to risk negative press for the district by telling students, parents, and staff who were victims.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, my [SPEAKER_01]: I then pressed about the recent threat specifically about me that had been reported to me by multiple students and parents and the superintendent reluctantly admitted that he knew about the threat.
[SPEAKER_01]: But because it was, quote, mainly a sexual assault concern, he didn't feel the need to tell me because, quote, it probably wasn't that big of a deal.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, perfect.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Continuing, unfortunately, it says, after doing my own investigation, I found out that one of my apes have been temporarily suspended in lieu of an obstructing justice charge because she had refused to disclose relevant details to police about one of my cases specifically.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I'm like, if I was this submitter, and this was going on, and it turns out everybody fucking knew about it, but me.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_01]: What?
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a lot.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I gotta keep going.
[SPEAKER_01]: I need to know what happens.
[SPEAKER_01]: It says, I also found out from the local justice department that they had been assured by my school administration that all affected parties of any crimes committed during the school year would be promptly informed by, [SPEAKER_01]: school administration.
[SPEAKER_01]: However, by this point in time, I had already signed my contract for the next school year and couldn't leave the district without jeopardizing my teaching license, so I was stuck there for another year.
[SPEAKER_03]: I, okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: They really use our licenses to hold us hostage.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like it's actually so predatory.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like when I really read the contract and like, y'all will learn this.
[SPEAKER_03]: Y'all will learn this soon, but when I like really had to like call the state call the district go through HR and really learn every single fucking legal detail of what can they do to your license.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's insanely predatory.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like once you sign that contract, they literally view you as an object that they own.
[SPEAKER_01]: Literally they do.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god.
[SPEAKER_01]: It says, I had in meaning with a few school board members resulting in them sending me a letter basically begging me not to sue over everything.
[SPEAKER_01]: Lucky for them, I really didn't want to go through the mental and financial strain of a lawsuit.
[SPEAKER_01]: However, I did demand a policy change regarding my situation, and the district gave in to that demand, assuring me of a new policy in place to inform victims of crimes that see after, uh, blew up.
[SPEAKER_01]: Inform victims of crimes committed on campus or an association with the school district.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was pleased with the policy change, especially after seeing it implemented in another incident the next year, and decided not to sue, since my real goal was to make sure what happened to me never happened to another teacher in my district.
[SPEAKER_01]: I really questioned my career over this, but decided to stay strictly due to support for my husband and my community.
[SPEAKER_01]: I am grateful for the parents and teachers who brought everything to my attention, and I hope I made a difference for other teachers in my district.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my God, you're an angel.
[SPEAKER_01]: If you are still a teacher, just know that you can have an effect on issues in your profession by speaking up without necessarily having to be able to afford a lawyer.
[SPEAKER_01]: Godspeed to you all.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're so much kinder than I am.
[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_03]: You're so much kinder than I am.
[SPEAKER_03]: Do you want to do one more and I'll rate it?
[SPEAKER_01]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_03]: And this is going to be a long series.
[SPEAKER_03]: You all had a lot to submit.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think we have struck a gold mine here.
[SPEAKER_01]: Literally.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like the people were waiting to release this information.
[SPEAKER_01]: I cannot believe how many we had.
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought that we had a lot last time for a hater time.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is crazy.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think because so many people were like, oh my god, I've been waiting to say something.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like so many people have things that they like, they don't want to submit it as a joke because it's literally a crime, but they like want to talk about it.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then they can't really talk about it on their own pages.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're here for y'all.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: So, hi, please keep this anonymous, duh.
[SPEAKER_03]: Not sure if this will make it on the pod because it's higher ed rather than elementary middle or high school, but the university I used to work at, there was a string of small arson's, trash cans lit on fire, et cetera, around the campus.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's generally a really safe campus, or at least was at the time, so we were all baffled.
[SPEAKER_03]: It turns out one of the campus police officers was setting them so he could make himself look heroic by being the first to respond to the scene.
[SPEAKER_03]: I wish I had a witty or way to end this story, but that's about par for the course when it comes to the campus police, I think.
[SPEAKER_03]: I linked a news article about it below.
[SPEAKER_03]: Let me blow from the news article.
[SPEAKER_03]: It says police officer charged after series of campus arson.
[SPEAKER_03]: I guess I can say the university, you set me the article.
[SPEAKER_03]: A University of Maryland Baltimore County police officer with charged with arson after a series of four fires on campus.
[SPEAKER_03]: He was thirty-six.
[SPEAKER_03]: Let me scroll through.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like boring boring boring boring, our investigation, boring boring boring boring boring boring.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then we started to see consistency where one police officer was responding to each of them.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's the kind of thing that spurred interest and kind of kicked off where we needed to look into this a little bit more.
[SPEAKER_03]: He set four total fires.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's impossible.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's a vanity or hero type situation.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's hilarious.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's suspended in a non-office or status.
[SPEAKER_03]: Whatever that means.
[SPEAKER_01]: That is nuts.
[SPEAKER_03]: At least no one got hurt at least they were just trash can fires but like that goes to show that we put way too much money into police because you had that much of goddamn free time to a think of this and then b do it four times.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're like, I'm addicted to people loving me.
[SPEAKER_03]: They were sitting in the little car and they're like, oh, there's just no crime around here.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, there's, I never get to solve the crimes.
[SPEAKER_01]: I want the glory.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, I do like a small arson better than you calling in like, fake bomb threats or something.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, definitely this one had like the smallest impact on students and their safety.
[SPEAKER_03]: But just like, like, I'm going to sit with fucking trash can don't fire.
[SPEAKER_03]: And everybody will be so scared.
[SPEAKER_03]: Did I mention I have a...
with my fire extinguisher?
[SPEAKER_03]: I like, you're not even a firefighter.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's not your job.
[SPEAKER_03]: Imagine he...
He actually set like ten, but for the other ones, the firefighters got their first.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he, that made him so mad.
[SPEAKER_01]: He cried about it.
[SPEAKER_03]: So the firefighters always get their first to put out the fire.
[SPEAKER_03]: We never get to put out fires.
[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody loves them.
[SPEAKER_01]: Nobody says a fab because they really are good.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like there are best government department in my opinion.
[SPEAKER_01]: They are.
[SPEAKER_03]: They get paid horribly.
[SPEAKER_03]: Did you know that?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: I did, unfortunately.
[SPEAKER_01]: And they give up so much.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like out here they have to do like when the wildfires happen.
[SPEAKER_01]: They literally have to be like buy families and go deploy.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's very, very stressful.
[SPEAKER_01]: There are heroes.
[SPEAKER_01]: We love them.
[SPEAKER_01]: And now this cop is listening to this podcast and he's like, that was my story and they're still talking about the firefighters.
[SPEAKER_01]: Why is it never about me in the morning?
[SPEAKER_01]: My trash cans on fire.
[SPEAKER_01]: He rolls up.
[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe I'll set my trash can on fire just to meet him.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I think you'd really like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Throw him a bone you guys.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, we love you so much.
[SPEAKER_03]: That was a good crime time.
[SPEAKER_03]: Keep submitting us your crime.
[SPEAKER_03]: Teach your quit-talk at gmail.com for the crime.
[SPEAKER_01]: And again, nothing gory.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hmm, please.
[SPEAKER_01]: We, we, indoor enough.
[SPEAKER_01]: But, so, so far we've, we've done, you can email us your Hater times, your quitting stories, and your, whatcha m'a call it, uh, crime, which is crime.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, well, we love you.
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll take any of it and all of it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Love you, bye, bye.