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Track the Galaxy's Most Unpredictable Star Trek podcast.
Speaker 2Live from Idaho, New York, and Michigan Home with the Wolverines.
This is Trek Cast, the Galaxy's Most Unpredictable Star Trek podcast.
Today on the show, we are going to be talking about Star Trek first contact.
Plus we've got Star Trek News and your listener feedback.
And now reports of their assimilation have been greatly exaggerated.
It's Daniel Reyes and Dan Lombardo.
Speaker 1What's going on?
Speaker 2Hey, check it out?
Check out Dan.
Speaker 3It's so well the first week in November.
There's still a lot of leftover spookiness.
Speaker 1Oh yes, yes, yes, things out.
Speaker 3I think we're good.
Just remember, uh, no job is too big, no fee is too big for all your supernatal needs.
How's your hollowday, guys?
Speaker 2Good?
Speaker 1Uh?
Speaker 2Old enough where my oldest son is in college, and my youngest son is old enough where he just goes trick or treating by himself, So him and his friends right on.
So I think that last year was the last year that I I went trick or treating with my kids.
Well, all right, you grand kids, Before you know it, you'll be doing.
Speaker 3It all over again.
Speaker 1Oh god, and see I I black out my house because as a single man living in a home alone, it's weird to be like, hey, you kids want some candy.
Speaker 2You know.
Speaker 3You should put an ice cream truck in the driveway.
Oh god, it says that says lots and lots of candy.
And just see if you can make the.
Speaker 2News like a white forty Cono van.
That's like, yeah, it free candy.
That'd be great.
Speaker 1Nont do any of those things.
Speaker 2Halloween is that's my wife's favorite holiday.
If she really likes to do it up.
I bought her.
One of the surprizes I got heard this year is uh Low's had a six and a half foot Jack Skellington dressed as Santa Claus animatronic talks to you.
It's got a little motion sensor.
So I bought that for And it's great because it it's it can it can stay out for a long time.
You can set it up it like on October first, and because it's Jack Skellington from Nightmare before Christmas, you can leave it up until Memorial Day, really, you know, right, which is probably what's gonna happen.
Speaker 3I don't know what's I don't know what's going on in the rest of the country.
But in the Northeast, all those people that bought those twenty foot skeletons a few years ago, they've just been leaving them out year round.
There's a couple places where you can you can drive by in April and there's just a twenty foot skeleton in the yard.
Speaker 2I'm gonna work to put up, Like my good Yeah, one of my friends has one of those twenty foot skeletons and like an eight foot dog and it's like, man, that's a lot of I don't have the room for any of that.
Like I don't know where, you know, you gotta store.
You gotta like bury it in the backyard and dig it up every year.
Speaker 1Yeah, Like I couldn't imagine.
Speaker 2Man.
Speaker 1There's there's a house a couple like the next street over and they just do up their yard giant for every holiday, like Halloween, Christmas.
I think one year they did it for for Independence Day.
They had like a bald eagle, like a giant one.
Speaker 2Oh my god, you got to pick your battles.
Like.
You know, my wife'savorite holidays Halloween, so you know, she decorates, she brings out the Halloween decorations.
And my favorite holiday is Christmas.
So you know, it just looks like Santa Claus threw up in our house.
And you know, we do a little bit of decorating for the other holidays.
I'll put out a you know, a green little something for Saint Patrick's Day, it's a red, white, and blue.
Speaker 1I mean, I love Groundhogs Day, but that's my favorite holiday.
Speaker 2It doesn't love Groundhogs Day.
It's so ridiculous, right, So, yeah, Halloween, fun holiday.
Everybody had a good time.
I dressed up as my wife, dressed up as Reddy Krueger, and I dressed up as somebody that only who lives in this part of Michigan would understand.
There's a I think I talked about it a couple of weeks ago, but there's a local farmer named Jean.
He's known as Jean the Pumpkin Man.
He passed away last year and he's he sold He had a big giant farm and sold pumpkins every year.
Oh okay, and he his thing was orange.
He had or you know, he dressed in orange, had orange stuff, had drove an orange Cadillac orange hat.
And so when he when he passed away.
His family had an a state sale and I actually owned one of his button up orange shirts, and so I wore that orange hat like he used to wear that I got.
Speaker 1Yeah yeah, yeah.
It was one of those like local legends.
We've got a few over here too.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Yeah, it was good fun.
Everybody at the party that I went to recognized me right away, so cool.
Speaker 1Right on.
We we had my my birthday party yesterday.
Speaker 2Happy birthday, yes, thank you, Yes, Happy birthday.
Speaker 1Dan, y, thank you.
And we we went to the Jedi Alliance, a giant arcade here in Spokane.
Yeah, and the kids went nuts, especially the boys.
For twelve and fourteen year old boys, that was like the best place ever.
Yeah, they went absolutely nuts.
And then we got pizza afterwards and then got to watch the World Series, so.
Speaker 2Oh yeah, what's better than that playing?
Yeah, video games and pizza and baseball.
Speaker 1Yeah, very very Yeah, the boys loved it.
Yeah.
Speaker 3So I just opened up and it's called it's a wreck room like recreation like w r ET and c K and I just saw a Facebook post about it.
But I but I think what it is is like you go in there and you pay and whatever's in the room you can you can break it, like you can choose a baseball.
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah, they have.
Speaker 3Yeah, I'm kind of I kind of want to.
I kind of want to check it out with the goal of, like, I want to get kicked out of this place.
Speaker 2I want to.
Speaker 3I want to, Like I want them to be like, oh no, no, no, sir, you went too far.
You you broke too much stuff.
You know, what do you mean, sirry you broke the register?
Speaker 2I mean, what's that part of it?
I like taking appliances, you know that we don't use any more drills or anything with the cord on it, tying it up in the in the backyard and just shooting at it.
Nice.
Speaker 1Okay, you want to you want to get them to kick you out, Dan stuff your pockets with some fake blood packs and then put them in the stuff that you're about to smash, and then I beat it so bad it's bleeding.
They won't know what to do with you.
Speaker 3I'm just gonna I'm gonna start beating up the attendant.
And then I misunderstood.
I mis understood.
Speaker 1Then you don't need blood packs.
It'll happen inside.
Speaker 3You know, I wrecked him.
I thought that's what it was them you damn here kill them?
Speaker 1Oh god?
Speaker 2Oh well, what are we what are we doing here today?
Yeah, so'scast that's right.
Speaker 1That's right.
We are doing a podcast.
Uh, a lot of different crazy news stories.
And then we also got a review of Star Trek First Contact, so yeah, it should be fun.
Well, we should probably get to it.
So let's play the Star Trek News.
Speaker 2Let's do it Star Trek news.
Speaker 1All right, So our first news story today comes to us from the Hollywood Reporter, and it is a bit of sad news.
This just came over the wire this weekend.
But from what I've read in another story, Ralph, is it Sananenski?
Since since sin Sinski?
I'm sorry if I'm butchering that name.
Uh.
He was the last surviving director from the original series Star Trek.
Oh wow, that's what it's in another article.
I don't know if that's true, but that's what it said.
He was one hundred and two years old.
Yeah, that's a run.
That's a good run.
Speaker 3And it's like he has so much life to live taking work, but for a human.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah, one hundred is a good good run.
Speaker 2That's in fact, it's one of the best runs.
Speaker 1Yeah he uh he directed multiple episodes of Star Trek and The The Waltons.
He died in a hospital in California.
Uh, they say that he was one hundred percent sharp until the end.
I don't have a cause of death.
I would imagine it's been one hundred and two.
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah, I don't think you need to cause of death if you if you go past ninety, no cause of death.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah, it's it's you've had your run.
But yeah, but uh yes, as Chasmin says, that is a long life.
Speaker 2Yes, so his positive death was being born?
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah, no kidding, no kidding, yes, yes, I do find it funny that says he he produced or directed six and a half episodes of the original series.
I want to know what's up with that half.
I'm sure I can find out.
Speaker 3Was it a two part episode that he directed the first half?
Speaker 1Maybe?
I don't know.
I don't know.
Speaker 2I don't did did Did original series have any two part episodes?
Speaker 1You're the one watching it right now or I am?
Speaker 2I'm you know?
And I can stand watching about one episode every month and a half, so it's I'm.
Speaker 1He still do the clip show?
Maybe like that's it only counted as half.
Many other clips of other people.
Speaker 2Well maybe he co directed an episode.
Speaker 1Yeah maybe maybe.
Yeah, so Jasmin says Schattner probably pissed him off.
Speaker 2M hm.
Speaker 1That that could be so okay, but yeah, that's that's that story all right.
Our next news story.
Speaker 3The Menagerie.
The Menagerie was a two part episode.
Speaker 1Oh okay, our next story for we're gonna play this while we get to since uh, since it's still going on, but we're still getting some of the fallout from the Paramount merger.
So this new story comes to us from uh CBR Comic Book Resources and Taylor Sheridan, the the the wonder Kid behind Yellowstone, is leaving Paramount, and according to the report by CBR, that might be good news for Star Trek.
So if you don't know, Taylor Sheridan has produced just a ton of different shows for Paramount, just hit after hit after hit.
He's done basically everything in in the Yellowstone universe.
He's also done like what is that other show that he did, land Man, and and the one with Jeremy Renner the.
Speaker 2Mayor of Kingstown.
Speaker 1Yeah, Kingstown.
He's done a lot of your dad's favorite shows.
So so yeah, so he is leaving though, Okay, well, there you go, there you go.
He's he's doing a lot of these shows.
He did Tulsa King, He's produced that created that.
So yeah, you know, so he he got a better deal from Paramount or from uh Peacock, and so he's going to be taking his talents there to South Beach and uh and doing that.
It's kind of surprising that Paramount didn't really try to he them.
Apparently they offered him something, but it wasn't that much better.
Speaker 2What does Paramount have to offer?
Speaker 1I mean, I mean, they They've got a ton of money right now.
The Ellison's have a just basically an unlimited supply of money.
So I mean they spent seven billion dollars on UFC just because.
Speaker 2Well maybe they're maybe they spent all their money on Professional rest lated or UFC.
Speaker 1Yeah, I mean maybe.
Speaker 2But so he's gone, How could this be good for Star Trek?
Speaker 1Right?
How could this be good for Star Trek?
Let's get to that point.
So the idea is, now that Taylor's gone, the main focus is going to have to be Star Trek because you don't have the showrunner behind all these hit shows, so those will pretty much naturally die on the Vine and uh, and so now you got to focus on your your main franchises, which is Star Trek.
Speaker 3I don't know if they'll die on the Vine naturally.
I mean they'll probably die of very long and protracted death on the ya sety indication.
I mean, there's they're still making the Walking Dead spinoffs as we speak, and uh, you.
Speaker 1Know, right, but Roberts Kirtzman's behind a lot of those, the brain Trust.
So yeah, they're still awful.
Oh, I know nobody watches them, but.
Speaker 2My wife and I stopped watching Walking Dead at a certain point and then I thought about starting to back up.
Let's start it back up.
Let's see this thing to its conclusion.
Because Walking Dead ended and I'm looking and I'm like, no, it didn't really though, it's just the.
Speaker 3Yeah, they just spread all the characters out.
Speaker 2Yeah, so there's no absolution, there's no ending, there's no you know, they're just.
Speaker 3Let me ask you out of curiosity, when did you stop watching?
Speaker 2So we stopped watching.
There was two periods that we stopped watching.
We stopped watching and spoiler alert, we stopped watching after Glenn died.
Speaker 1Oh yeah, that's everyone stop watching.
Speaker 3Right, And the end of that season the end of that.
Speaker 2We fizzled off at the end of that season, and then he started watching it again, and once they were able to kick Naghan out of his home, then we stopped watching it again.
We're like this it was, it wasn't.
And the reason why we stopped watching it is because the good guys never won.
They never got a solid win.
It was just one horrible day after another, and the show started getting depressed, depressing because they couldn't.
There was no there was no light at the end of the tunnel.
And and I don't know about storytelling, but it seems to me like part of good storytelling is even even in a show like that, you gotta show him having a good, good ending every once in a while, like but they didn't do that in The Walking Dead, so.
Speaker 1You got to give him a reason to live.
They're just at that point.
Speaker 2I told my wife, I'm like, you know, if if we were in the same exact situation, I would have eaten a bullet a long time ago.
Yeah, yeah, you know, in the Walking Dead world, that's right, because it's just, yeah, there's no reason to live.
Speaker 1So but that's the going theory.
Anyways, that Taylor sharedan since he'll be gone the focus on all shifted Star Trek.
What does that mean?
We don't know for sure.
It's just a theory at this point, but I thought it was interesting that we could bring it up.
But speaking of Star Trek, we got a couple other quick little stories.
For those of you who are missing Book David Ayala Book from a Discovery, have no fear.
He is returning to your TV screens and he will soon be on Law and Order, so he is set to make his to be there.
Soon.
He will be replacing macad Brooks and he will be the new detective on Law and Order.
So I was like Book as an actor, so that might be interesting.
Don't know if I'll watch it on order though.
Yeah.
And then our last news story comes to us from Cinema Blend.
I don't know if you guys caught it this week, but there was a very special episode of the new Zachary Quinto show Brilliant Minds where he got to dress as Spock.
So it was their Holloway saw.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1Yeah, so that was cute.
I just thought that was fun to mention.
So there you go.
Zacharundo playing Spock in twenty twenty five.
So yeah, there you go, and that is all the news stories.
Speaker 2Cool.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah, it's sincere.
Speaker 2We're att all.
I mean, you know, until until January, where we can disappoint Dan with start.
Speaker 1Are you talking about it's gonna be the greatest show ever.
Well no, no that's not true.
It'll be no Star Trek Scouts, but it'll be close.
Speaker 2Mean well that legacy show called Star Trek Discovery.
Speaker 1That's right.
Speaker 2But Dan, like I you know, I said this before.
If you're if you're missing, if you're missing Michael Burnham, she's on the new Boston Boston Blue.
So there's a there's a there's a Blue Blood spin off with.
Speaker 1A noted noted he he's not gonna watch it, but that's okay, Yeah, all right, or.
Speaker 3If I do, I will, I will watch it despite her not, because.
Speaker 2That's right.
Let should we get out of me.
Let's get have some good news, some awesome stuff.
Speaker 1Yeah all right, let's get to our main topic.
Speaker 4I fin will now come out.
Speaker 1Oh man, our main topic.
We are talking about Star Trek First Contact the movie.
This was a film from nineteen ninety six, directed by Jonathan Freaks, screenplay b Brendan Braga, Braga and uh Donald, Ronald D.
Moore, I cannot talk today.
I've had a long day.
The budget for this was forty five million dollars.
Box office was one hundred and forty six million, so it did make a profit.
Yeah, yeah, can you assure me.
Speaker 3Yeah, we're trying not to, but I mean we do.
Speaker 2Thanks Dad, I love you too.
Speaker 3So this was a great movie.
I have to say this was one of my favorites.
It was one of my favorites.
It had a new new title theme.
The music had a new theme to it, which was carried over into the next one, Insurrection.
Speaker 2Mm hmm.
Speaker 3It's a very recognizable theme.
It was the ambient music in the background at Star Trek Experience for years.
If you were sitting in if you were sitting in the restaurant, you would you would hear this song come on.
And to this day, to this day, when I hear that theme, I think just as much about Star Trek the experience as I do about this movie.
So yeah, I love this movie.
I saw it in the theater.
I had a bootleg VHS version of it that I watched over and over and over and over until I bought the the you know, a legit copy of it.
This was during like what I think of as the Golden age, excuse me, the golden age of modern Star Trek.
You had the TG movies going on, you had d Space nine going on, Voyager was going on.
Merchandising for Star Trek was, yes, yes, it was at its peak.
VHS and you know, all the movies, all the episodes, they were all on VHS, and DVD was right around the corner.
So it was only a few years later that people were buying all the same shit they just bought three years ago.
I mean, merchandising was at its peak, merchandizing, merchandizing, merchandizing.
I have great memories of this movie, the the side effect of it though.
Watching it this morning, yeah, I ended up playing on my phone through half the movie.
Yeah, because because I've seen it so many times, I don't need to look at the screen.
I can hear the I could hear the audio track and watch this movie in my head.
And there's very few movies.
There's a few movies that that happens for me that I have a hard time watching them now just because of how many times I've watched in the past.
This is one of them.
And Batman nineteen eighty nine.
Speaker 1Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3So I try and take I try and take several years off between rewatching those movies, and I think this one I didn't wait.
I didn't wait quite long enough.
But it doesn't mean I like the movie any less.
It's a great movie.
I got plenty of other stuff to say about it.
I got my notes here, but I'll let you go joke in a little bit.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Yeah, So the fans and critics agree with you.
It's got a ninety three percent critics rating on Rotten Tomatoes and an eighty nine percent with the fans.
Scott, what did you think rewatching it?
Because I know you've seen it before.
Speaker 2So yeah, you know, to speak to Dan's point about you know how often you watch it.
We did a Star Trek movie rewatch our family did about four four or five years ago, and we got up to generations and then we stopped, like life happened, and we just we went on to other things, and then we started doing the rewatch this time.
So I hadn't seen the movie in all the way through in probably five or six years, and I thoroughly enjoyed it.
And my experience watching the movie this time I'm Usually my wife watches these the rewatches with me.
She didn't this time.
She was off doing her own thing, and so I watched it.
I had some wireless headphones on, so I was, you know, I was late at night.
I was able to you know, listen to the to the sound.
It was great, and I found myself just just doing the dialogue with the characters, and I mean word per word at ninety percent of the movie, you know, and which made me realize, yeah, I've seen this movie probably all the way through.
Speaker 3So I had the headphones on.
I had the wireless headphones on also, Scott.
And the funny thing like I got up to go to the kitchen to get something to eat.
I didn't plause it.
I just left the headphones on, went to the kitchen, did what I needed to do, continue to watch the movie in my head while I'm both then and then came back in.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Absolutely, Yeah, fun movie and just like the last, we don't need to go through you know, a synopsis and seen by seeing everybody's seen this movie one hundred times.
Speaker 1But yeah, yeah, it's the border attacking Earth.
They time travel back to to ancient Earth you know or whatever to stop first contact with the Vulcans in in an attempt to assimilate the Earth in the past.
Speaker 2So yeah, they traveled back to April fourth, twenty sixty three, which is famously the day before first contact, which is where we get our Star Trek Day from, which was just one the The date was just one of the It was one of the writers.
I think their kid's birthday.
Speaker 3Okay, that was it.
Speaker 2But one of the things I wanted to mention about this is the the broken little ships, the famous scene with Lily and Picard in the in the in the room where he breaks the display case.
One of this ties into I've actually seen those ships, those models, the Golden models in person.
Oh wow.
The Henry Ford Museum in Dearborn over by Detroit.
And it when I when I saw that.
I had been listening to trek Cast for a little while, but this was the first time that I was compelled to post something on the trek Cast Facebook book group.
And so I said, Hey, I'm going to the I'm going to the Henry Ford and they got a Star trek blah blah blah blah, And Daniel reached out on Facebook and say, help, you know, post some pictures, and so that's the first time I actually like really interacted with with Trek cast.
I went there.
I took one hundred and fifty pictures.
I posted every single one of them.
Everybody seemed to love it.
The the it was a it was like a special, you know, traveling thing that the Star Trek thing was going.
It was at the Henry Ford Museum.
They had a special exhibit and they had a ton of stuff there.
There was so many, so many props, but the ones that I specifically remember in my mind's eye was that Golden Enterprise D that they had to You could you could see where it was broken and they had glued it back together, and it was It was a fantastic, fantastic experience.
Speaker 1You cannot forget that golden DU.
Speaker 2I cannot forget the Golden D.
I saw you smirking, Daniel.
Yeah, I love that big gold D.
Speaker 1Who doesn't.
Who doesn't love a golden D?
Speaker 2But I smashed it.
Speaker 1I smashed the heck out of it.
Speaker 2No, it got broken.
I had to glue it back together.
I broke the D.
Speaker 1That'll happened with heavy use, I imagine.
Speaker 5Oh, but this movie had experience.
Speaker 3This movie had quite a few easter eggs and callbacks to other other Star Trek episodes, other Star Trek shows.
I just jotted a few of them down while I was watching.
But in Picard's office, if you look, draping over the back of his chair, is the min talking tapestry.
Speaker 4Yeah.
Speaker 3The episode I think the episode was was that the one with the with the like prehistoric vulcans where they think he's where.
Speaker 2They're Yeah, Wise shoots him with an arrow.
Speaker 3And uh yeah, So that that tapestry was over the back of his chair basically for the rest of the TG run, and you could see it in the background in Generations.
You can see it in the background in this one, and I think you can see it in the background in the next one.
And Nemesis.
I think Nemesis is the only one where it doesn't it doesn't show up.
Speaker 1Dah, the fact that you're bringing up tapestry and naming it warning warning.
Speaker 6Nerd alert, nerd alert.
Speaker 3Was I where my nerd alerts with Pride.
Speaker 1There you go.
Speaker 3So Wharf was in this in this movie.
You know everyone knows at this point in the chronology, Wharf is serving on Deep Space nine and he is at times the commander of the Defiant, so it made perfect sense that the Defiant, the ship designed to fight the Borg, shows up at this battle.
And uh, you know, whil A Wharf is back with the TMG crew for the duration of the movie.
This is really the only movie where it makes sense that Wharf shows up again, like that fun fact.
They had planned They had planned to destroy the Defiant in this movie, and the showrunners at Deep Space nine were passed.
You know that that line at the end was thrown in where you know, Wharf asks about the edition of the Defiant and they say it's a drift, but it's salvageable, which means you will see you next week.
Speaker 5On the next Steam nine.
Speaker 3So that they Robert Perccardo shows up as not the e m H.
But Ethan Phillips plays the maitre d at the the restaurant.
They yeah, uh, Nurso Gawa is back, Reginald Barkley is back.
A lot of the extras on the Enterprise crew were the same non speaking extras that were on the shelf for for seven seasons.
And uh, Cochrane says the words Star Trek, Yes movie it was.
It was pretty cute the way they worked it in you guys are astronauts and some sort of star trek yep.
So it was great.
Speaker 1I mean he put it in as best he could.
Speaker 3Yeah, So the board were redesigned, the Borg were redesigned for this movie.
Yeah.
Prior to this, they just had like, you know, pasty white faces and a bunch of mechanical stuff on them.
And they they kind of made them look more made the organic parts look more organic, and made the mechanical parts look more integrated with their bodies.
And this design stuck around everything.
Everything Borg that we saw on Voyager.
They owe it to this movie right down.
So it's the same costumes and sets that they built for this movement that they used on that show.
For the next I don't know, four years or whatever, that the Boorg we're doing everything.
Yeah.
And then while I was watching this, was just thinking about the Borg and I was thinking about the Borg ship, and they make reference of when they start changing the environmental controls on the Enterprise to make it more like a Boorg ship and it was it was hot and it was humid.
And then I'm thinking to myself that a you know, a cybernetic organism.
I don't think they shower, and then I was imagining what must have borg ships smell like?
Speaker 1Awful humid?
Speaker 2Yeah, it must almost be so bad.
It must it must smell like an army bear after at test.
It must be so dank and rank Yep.
Speaker 1Yeah, Chad, tell us what you think of boring cube smells like?
Speaker 2I want to see the different descriptions.
Speaker 3And sometimes I walk in, I walk into the karate school when there's already been class in session for.
Speaker 1Like an hour and a half, and it's hot air.
Speaker 3And I walk in, and I, you know, I have a thing that I say smells like karate in here, And I imagine that I imagine that that a borg cube smells like karate.
Speaker 2Oh man, one hundred and two degrees thirty thirty nine point one degrees celsius is one hundred and two degrees.
Yeah, thank you, that's warm.
Speaker 1That's desert.
Makes a good point, he says, computers like cool and dry, though you'd think they'd want to be that.
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 3Well.
You also you also have to figure that the borg are made up of how many different species?
Speaker 2Right?
Speaker 3So there are probably different species that operate in higher temperatures, some that have lower temperatures, some high humidity, some low humidity, so this is probably the median humidity, not for and you gotta remember these are these are machines making constant calculations.
They probably the collective probably determined.
Okay, there's there's twenty five borg currently on this ship.
They are from these species, and this is the mean temperature and the mean humidity for optimum operation in this environment.
And as they assimilate more people, those numbers probably probably shift.
Speaker 2Yeah, I mean, yeah, well we mentioned the hygiene.
I think it has My my theory is that you operate one hundred and two, it kills all the nasty uh you know, non nandite little things and you know, the germs and stuff like that.
I think the high temperature is to keep is a sanitation thing.
Speaker 3Yeah.
I would think that they have nanoprobes that are eating the bacteria as it.
Uh.
Speaker 2Yeah, they probably cured cancer a long time ago.
We got this, Yeah, Okay, they don't even think about it.
Speaker 3Yeah, they're like, we cured kids, and we can handle body ownder this.
Speaker 2Like if the borg like ever like decided to you know, play nice with the federation, you know, and they just got together and just you know, started, you know, hanging out.
They'd be like, what is this cancer thing that would would your friend died of?
Speaker 3What?
Speaker 2It's like, Oh yeah, we took care of that hundreds of years ago.
It's a real simple mechanical thing that we do.
Mm hmm oh, I you know you mentioned, uh Wharf.
I had to say one of my favorite Easter egg in in this is and I didn't realize it until I was until like the early two thousands, mid two thousands, when the first time we see Wharf when he's picking himself back up off the deck, they played the Klingon music.
Yes, yeah, and I heard it, but I I didn't realize it until years and years later.
I was I was watching like Star Trek three, and then I heard that music come out.
I'm like, wait a minute, that's the that's the Defiant theme.
No, that's not the Defiant theme, that's the Klingon theme.
That was That was great.
And did you know that the Defiant helmsman was Adam Scott.
Speaker 1Yeah, yes, yeah, he's a few times.
Yeah, yeah, that's great.
Speaker 2He's so.
Speaker 1But yeah, no, it's it's a great movie.
I had trouble coming up with what I would do with it.
I did come up with something though, Oh boy, oh, if you guys want to hear this, I want to hear it.
Speaker 2Okay, this is like my favorite part.
Speaker 1So I would not call it for his contact.
I would still have the Borg, but I would call it Star Trek Art of War, and I would start with a holidack.
Wharf is showing off his new training program.
He is there just to show off a new training program.
That's why he's on the enterprise.
It's not that anything has been going on.
The training program has got all sorts of cool adversaries within it.
It's got like a I would have like a like a like a biker looking nauseaken with like metal spikes on his shoulders and whatever.
I would have a Samurai klingon just whatever cool idea you can come up with that concept.
Art will We'll put him in there and have it looked that way.
And so they're testing the battle techniques.
Speaker 2Uh.
Speaker 1Picard is watching over it with warf like, oh yeah, this is a great training simulator, like it's good.
And then as the simulation's going after different crew members are are trying the combat training, some of the characters turn and look at Picard and they're like, Licutas were coming, Locutus were coming after you.
We're gonna find you, Locutas.
And he's like cute, who And then he slowly starts to realizing, oh my god, the border talking to me through the simulation.
They've somehow hacked.
And so he's he's trying to call for the Arch.
The Arch isn't coming.
He's trying to break into the wall to figure out what's going on.
He's like, they're they're gonna try to take over the Enterprise.
They're clearly in the system communicating with us, and Wharf's like, who are you?
What are you talking about?
The simulation's running perfectly, like what do you There's nothing going on, and they keep saying we're coming, the cutest we're coming.
And then so finally the card ends up ripping out the I don't know, the matrix of the hologram or whatever breaks the breaks the holidack and uh.
And he looks like a crazy person, right because nobody saw anything other than him.
And so he's talking to Starfleet and he's like, hey, Starfleet, like they they got into the Enterprise somehow.
I'm having our people trace the signal trying to figure out where it came from.
But they're coming.
We need to be ready, and Starfleet it's like we're fighting the dominion right now.
There's no evidence of this signal.
Yes it would be bad at the Borg attack us right now, but there's no evidence behind this.
Are you okay?
Like something's off about you?
So then he goes talk to Counselor Troy because star our Fleet's like, we want the counselor to do an evaluation on you because something's off.
Yeah, because you're you've you've done lost it and uh.
And so they have a conversation and and he basically admits that you know, he yeah, he doesn't like the Borg, but you know, they're there and people think he's crazy.
And she's like, I think you believe that, but I there's no evidence, Like there's there's nothing.
And so then like Riker goes to her and Riker's like, so what do you think?
And right She's like, you needed to take command of the ship because I'm declaring him mentally unfit right now because he he can't handle it.
And so Riker takes over and Riker's like, look, I'm sorry, but this is what we have to do.
We're in wartime, like we have to be ready to go, and and you're you're losing it.
And Picard starts questioning himself and every now and then the borg will pop up in his head and they're like, hey, we're we're coming, We're after you, that kind of thing, right.
And then so during the during the training program also they were testing out these new weapons that they have.
I'm gonna call them the strategic armored weapons or whatever I once saw to be the the the thing, and uh, and these weapons are based off the brain tech from the from the Dominion War, right, the brain tech they would they would depower a ship, right, so these weapons could depower a drone.
And the idea was they didn't have the ability to then, uh remodulate the signal and you know, prevent being you know, like you couldn't shoot unlimited like they always adjust, right, But because the drones would be depowered like that, you could just keep shooting drone after drone after drowning and keep fighting.
So that's that's why these weapons were so good for fighting the board.
And so the card makes the idea that oh my god, that's what they want.
They want these weapons they want to to take them because they don't want us to have the strategic advantage.
They know that we have the prototype weapons here in the Enterprise.
That's why they're after us.
And and Riker's like, yeah, that makes sense, but what do we do because we can't we can't just like go hide and we need these weapons.
Like what do we do?
And so uh, Picard goes, well, they want us to go to these special like location.
He thinks that that's where they're waiting, like that's where the signals coming from.
He thinks that if we go attack them there with the weapons, we can stop them before they really get going in the Alpha Quadron.
So Riker decides, Okay, I'm gonna trust you.
You know you're a captain, but I will trust you and let's go.
And so they get there and there's no Borg.
There's like this just like giant portal.
And they figure out that it is a Transworp conduit right because it'll be the first time we see that.
And with that system, they can then take over the Alpha Quadrant because they can appear wherever right faster than warp.
So they decide to go into the transport conduit.
They get there, they're now in a completely different you know, we've heard the Gamma quadrant, we've heard of the Beta quadrant.
We'll give a whole nother one, the the Omego quadrant, like just completely out of nowhere, right, and it's the Enterprise alone, and there's multiple word cubes there.
It is the Borg Hive like it is.
It is the dead center of it.
And they quickly just take the Enterprise, and so a Bicard realizes He's like, oh my god, they're going to take the weapons.
We're going to get assimilated.
We're right in the center of all this.
We're going to get killed.
And then and he's talking to we're gonna introduce the Borg Emperor, so no longer the queen.
Like the queens are are like the lieutenants, but at the top is the emperor, right, and the Emperor is like, hey, uh, we're gonna we don't want your weapons.
We don't give a shit about your weapons.
We've had breams in the collective for a while.
We know about these weapons.
And then the guards like, well, what did you want?
What what is it that you wanted.
He's like, what we want?
The reason we wanted you Locutus is because you're a good tactician and you run on your instinct, and that's why we put you in the hive originally, is because we needed your battle instinct in fights, and that's why you were such a deadly Borg.
And so it becomes like a chess match between him and the Emperor on on saving his crew and saving the Enterprise.
So ultimately it ends up that the whole problem with what the whole reason that the Borg wanted him and his instinct, but the reason it never worked is that the Borg operates on one in Zero's right binary everything is this or that, whereas human instinct doesn't operate like that, right, It's all based off of experience and knowledge and just gut feeling.
And that's why the instinct never worked for the Borg, and that was their downfall.
So that would be kind of it.
Okay, I haven't like fully fleshed it all out clearly, but I have at stick story.
Speaker 2I'd love to, Yeah, And I'm telling you, in a couple of years, we're gonna have Ai flesh these all all your all of Daniel's stories out, That's right.
I want to I want to see, Yeah, I want to seek.
Speaker 3The Daniel files.
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah, and it's coming.
You know, we've talked about the show.
Speaker 1I mean it's yeah, it's it's around the corner for real.
Speaker 3Yeah.
So, I I think I said a couple of different times.
I love this movie, but I'm still mere.
So here's my list of nitpicks.
Speaker 1Go for it, go for it.
Speaker 2I've got one too, all right.
Speaker 3U Picard shouldn't face the Borg is what Starfleet thought at the beginning.
Yeah, despite the fact that he had faced them several times already.
Uh yeah, tail end of TNG.
But that's fine.
We understand.
They needed him to not be at the fight so that he could arrive at the fight.
I get it.
Picard and Lily defeat to Borg by luring them into the Holo deck and disengaging the safeties so that they can use projectile weapons to uh, to take them out.
Speaker 2If my logic, it's right here.
Speaker 3You ready for it?
Yeah, you ready for it.
Ten minutes earlier, Data took her about twenty round of automatic weapons fire and barely flinched mm hm so right in the chest and then and looked down at his at his at his messed up shirt and said, greetings.
Yes, that didn't quite add up to me.
I mean, I think the borger or more sophisticated or a more sophisticated machine than Data is.
But this is my nitpick.
Speaker 2I I don't real quick to interject my nitpick on that scene was not the Borg part, what was the Data part?
Because Data got shot with an arrow once and by counselor Troy, and he's like, oh, it just barely missed the servo mechanism, so you're a good counselor.
But he gets he gets shot by this you know, automatic weapon and apparently he was fine, even though an arrow could have damaged him.
Yeah.
Speaker 3Continue, So after the warp flight and they turn the ship around and they face it towards Earth.
Cochrane says, is that Earth?
It looks so small?
And Riiker says, it's about to get a whole lot bigger, And that always struck me as being backwards.
It's about to get a whole lot smaller because you're about to meet a life forms.
We're going to clue you into the fact that you are a part of this intergalactic community.
Now there are all of these other races out there, and Earth just got a whole lot smaller.
So that line always bothered me a little bit.
Speaker 2Wood a much better line.
Speaker 3My You know, my head canon is that they warped.
They warped that way, and now they need to warp back, so it's going to get bigger on the on the ride back.
That's the way I justified in my head cannon.
But I really wish it was the other way around.
Things I never noticed before, not that I never noticed them, but I never like put two and two together.
Jeordie's wearing sunglasses down on the planet.
Yeah, not that it's too sunny, it's that he's got mechanical eyeballs that he doesn't want people looking at these people from the past.
I don't know how I never picked up on that since nineteen ninety six to now.
And I just got a few pieces of trivia that I that I looked up that I'll share it.
This one, I was surprised to read Tom Hanks was supposed to play Exept from Concord.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1I knew that.
Yeah, Yeah, that would.
Speaker 3Have been crazy.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 3I sometimes I think I wonder if the how would that have affected the budget, Like would they have been would it have been as good a movie?
Would they have had as much money to spend on the movie or would they have done blocks of funding from the studio because they would recognize this is not only a Star Trek movie, this is now Tom Hanks movie, so we can expect that faction of people to come see it.
I don't know.
Speaker 2Also, Tom Hanks is a Star Trek fan giant.
Yeah, yeah, you know, but he was.
He was doing the he was right in the middle of the hit directing his starring in That Thing You Do, so he couldn't.
Yeah, everybody knows That Thing You Do because we all have the DVD.
Speaker 1That's right.
I watch it every Sunday.
Speaker 2Yeah, good song.
Speaker 3I still love.
Speaker 2Yeah, it's catchy.
It's a catchy little little ditty.
Speaker 3Don Stark played Nikki the Nose.
Do you know who Don Stark is?
No, he played Bob Pinciotti on that seventies show, Oh Donna's Dad.
Speaker 2Why you look familiar?
Okay, I was, I was focused.
I watched last night.
I also watched the commentary there.
The DVD's got three different commentaries audio and I watched the one with Jonathan Frakes and it was so much fun to watch.
And he was pointing out that the guy next to Nicky the knows that he's like that.
The card is like frisky to find a weapon, the one say hey, I'm taking that personal.
That was a stunt stunt coordinator.
Speaker 1Okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 3So Jack Shearer appears as Admiral Hayes, and he later reprised that role in two episodes of Voyager, which is interesting because his ship was destroyed in this way.
So I guess, I guess he didn't go in with the ship.
I guess he made it to an escape pod.
I don't know.
And this one's interesting.
I you know, I saw this, I paused it, and then I looked it up.
At the end, when the Vulcan ship lands, Riker is talking to Cochrane telling him, you know, hey, they're gonna want to talk to you, and he's standing right next to him, and Freaks is clearly looking up at at Cromwell, James Cromwell, and I know that Franks is not a short dude, So I looked it up and Frank's is six three, so he's a tall guy.
Uh, Cromwell is six feet seven inches tall.
Speaker 1Good lord, he is dude, right, Oh my god.
Speaker 3And upon looking that up, I got this little nugget that he is the tallest actor ever nominated for an Academy Award.
Speaker 1Wow.
Speaker 3Yeah, he's a tall dude.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 3Go back and now the next the next time you watch this movie, that part's gonna come up and you're gonna be looking.
You're gonna and you're gonna see Riker like this.
Hey, they're gonna want to talk to you, and you're gonna back to this moment.
Speaker 6Crazy six seven damn Yeah, he's huge.
Speaker 3Wow.
Oh my god, I didn't even I didn't.
I didn't even catch it.
You know how tall he is?
Six seven six nonsense.
Speaker 1I finally made the show.
That's all I got.
Speaker 2I got one small, I got a knit.
Speaker 1Okay.
Speaker 2The borg Sphere Uh you know it goes back in time and starts immediately firing on uh Montana, right, okay, I mean, and it gets off, It gets off a lot of shots.
I mean, we can we can see from from what we can hear and see, and you know, it's the green.
It's the typical alien green, you know, barrage boom boo boom.
You know, it's just Jews.
And I kept thinking, I'm looking at I'm looking at it.
You know, it's it's Borg it's twenty twenty fourth century, and I'm like, my truck unit in the army, given the same amount of time, could have done as much or more damage to that village than the Borg cube or the borgear did.
What what were they firing at them?
Like harsh language?
It just I mean, yeah, some buildings blew up and and things.
But you would think that that that time period, that species, that technology would have been able to decimate estimate, Yeah, that entire area.
You would think that one photon torpedo would level the entire town.
You would borg shooting at it.
Speaker 3Yeah, So I went, I went out of order.
I went out of order on my nitpicks, and I skipped right over this one.
Very similar to what you're saying I have on here.
Bord could have traveled back in time first and then travel through space to Earth instead of vice versa.
Yep, that they traveled to Earth and then went back in time, but back in time where you are and then travel to Earth.
Speaker 2Or have the imagination for.
Speaker 3Why do why even go to Earth?
You know, you know what you're stopping this first contact with this vulcan craft intercept the craft, intercept the craft, assimilate that send that down to Earth, and it's a whole different first contact.
That handshake would go a lot different when the when the mules come out, and now you got you know, you got a six foot seven inch tall Bord running around Montana assimilating people.
Speaker 2Can you imagine he like, he gets assimilated, but he's still got a ton of alcohol in his system.
Speaker 3He's just falling all over the place.
Speaker 1He's of the three of us, I'm probably the only one that's been to Montana, So I totally get just raid shooting on it immediately.
Speaker 2Oh goodness, yeah, such a great movie.
Speaker 3It Oh, we didn't even we didn't even bring it up.
They you know, after the Star Trek generation's wardrobe debacle h than movie before, they completely redesigned the uniform and uh, I don't think we've had a better looking uniform since.
Speaker 1I really don't don't think.
I did like the Discovery uniforms, not the show, but the uniforms are pretty cool.
Speaker 2They had a couple of different uniforms throughout its run.
Speaker 1Yeah whatever, but they are they are great uniforms.
When I think of Star Trek uniforms, those are the ones I think of that the D nine one, this is that.
Speaker 2The Yeah, I also have to mention Literally and Picard what uh an unlikely and fantastic duo.
They had some great chemistry together, that scene in the ready room, in the observation lounge, that famous scene, you know they invade our space and we fall back.
Alfred Woodard is one of my favorite actresses.
She's great.
Yeah, and she just her acting in this was so good.
It was so good.
And her and Jonathan Frakes are really good friends.
They've been friends for years in real life prior to this.
And but yeah, Herd Picard just had some great, some great chemistry together.
It was I just I just love their interaction, you know, the.
Speaker 3One one line I always appreciated, you know, when she compares him to Captain a Hap and and and then later on in the scene she admits to him that she actually never read the book.
Yeah, yeah, and what I but what I appreciate about that In Stars and they did it.
They did it twice in this movie.
In Star Trek.
It always they always paint this picture that everyone knows about every piece of literature from Earth's past, like they've all just sat around reading Shakespeare and you know all of this stuff.
So you know, there's that where you know, she's she's from our future, and yeah, I know what Mobe Dick is, but I've actually never read it, which is most of the people on the planet right now, you're aware of it.
You're aware of it, you know the basic premise of it, but you've never you've never actually read the book.
So there was that, And there was something similar when when Picard is rage blasting his opera music in the ready room and Ryker walks in and you know, I identify the song and and Picard corrects him, No, it's actually such and such or whatever.
Okay, you know.
So yeah, so not everybody knows everything about about culture.
Speaker 2Yeah, not everybody graduated from Cambridge University.
Yeah yeah, exactly, just like reality.
Yeah yeah, but yeah, like I said, I listened to the commentary Jonathan Frakes.
There's there's three commentaries.
He did one, some producers did one and some I think one of the writers did one.
But the one that Jonathan Frakes does he obviously loved this movie.
Uh, he had a good time.
Yeah, you know, I I I remember when I had a conversation with Jonathan Fakes one time when I met him at the as you do at the Indianapolis Comic Con.
Speaker 3Were you looking up at him?
Speaker 2Yeah, he's a he's an all imposing dude, but uh, you know.
And and I the first thing he said, and that's how I got my nickname was he said, that's a strong beard.
And when Jonathan Frank says you have a strong beard, that I think that means something.
And I told him, I said, you know Star Treks and.
Speaker 3Scott said, Scott said, you should see me mount a chair.
Speaker 2That's yeah, I could.
I could.
I could write her maneuver with the best of them.
And I, uh, I said.
Speaker 1How's your how's your how's your back?
Speaker 6After dropping that name, Oh you know, I mean, yeah, exactly blue eyes, I.
Speaker 2Said to him, I said, you know, I Star Trek First Contact is my favorite Star Trek movie.
I loved what you did with it.
And even my wife chimed in and she's like, yeah, he says that all the time.
Star Trek is his favorite movie, and you're his favorite Star Trek director.
And I said, you know, if they had allowed you to direct Star Trek Insurrection or Star Trek Nemesis instead of that guy that they had directed, they'd be you'd be directing Star Trek twenty three right now.
And he looked at me and he's like, from your mouth to God's ears, that's exactly what he said.
And I'm like, you know, yeah, because you know, the douchebag that directed Star Trek Nemesis Bird or whatever the hell his name is, destroyed the franchise, the Next Gen movie franchise because he knew nothing about Star Trek.
And and that's one of the things that Franks was talking about in the commentary is you know, he understood that he wasn't, you know, a big name director.
They were hoping to get somebody like Ridley Scott or you know, somebody an action director, but they also knew that these guys knew nothing about Star Trek, and so they approached Franks and said, you know, you've directed a lot of Next Gen Deep Space nine Voyager, you know, will you direct this?
And He's like, absolutely, he wanted it.
He wanted it bad.
And yeah, I just think that he's you know, I've said it before, I'm a huge Jonathan Fraakes fan.
I think that he should be part of, uh the franchise moving forward.
I think he should help shape it and guide it.
And that's that's my two cents.
Speaker 1So nice.
Yeah, well we've already got jazz is waiting, so we should get to listener feedback.
So let's do that.
Speaker 2Let me do it.
Speaker 4Listener feedback.
Speaker 1So uh yeah, so real quick, if you guys want to get into listener feedback, we are on all the social media channels, so you can send us messages there.
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I did ask in our Facebook group if what you know that we I told him that we were going to review for his Contact.
I wanted people's thoughts and their favorite scenes.
Craig said that his favorite was the assimilate This from moreh uh.
One said this is just a great movie, loved it all, and Gabe said there are so many great parts in First Contact.
Mike Medina wanted to know what is the deal with Lieutenant Hawk.
I'm not sure what the deal he means other than he got assimilated.
Speaker 5Yeah, that's Neil McDonough yeah, yeah, very well, yes, so, but yeah, we got Chasmis, so let's bring him on there is you.
Speaker 2Know that brings up another knit.
Several of the borg uh were were phasered off into space.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2War takes his phaser rifle after he says Captain, they've adapted.
He takes his phaser rifle and doesn't set it back on the deck with its mag because they show that if the card shows that it will magnetically, it's got a magu He just takes it and throws it.
And I'm thinking, where did what happened to that?
Did they?
What did hello?
Speaker 3I guess I imagine before they before they head back to the future, they kind of they kind of zip around the solar system being up, beaming up all the crap that they left lying around that shouldn't be there.
Speaker 2Yeah, what about the remember, oh, I've got one more I've got I've got one more knit.
Uh the deflector dish.
He says, don't shoot the deflector.
This charge of the anti prioritize.
That'll straight off the ship.
Boy, I hope the Romulans don't get wind of this information.
And and also how did my last knit?
And then I'll shut up.
How did Riker, Jordie and Cochrane get back to Earth?
Speaker 4Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2Yeah, because they were using it looked like they were using Apollo type technology or you know, well that's a splashdown situation, right.
Speaker 3Are there any Are there any big lakes near Bozeman, Montana?
Speaker 4I have landed like Elon's rocket, So.
Speaker 3Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2Yeah, And then.
Speaker 4They drove a truck for something I don't know, I.
Speaker 2Think because and maybe Elon West was alive, he'd be like a hundred.
Speaker 4So yeah, he'd be robo Elon by then, so probably be a brain and a jar and a.
Speaker 1Oh god, one of those heads like in Futurama, just the head.
Speaker 2Yes, did you rewatch the movie chats Bis?
Speaker 4I didn't rewatch it, but I saw in the theater a couple of years ago.
It was the first time I ever seen it in the theaters, so.
Speaker 2Nice.
Speaker 4And and that's the thing about watching something in the theater, because like Dan was saying earlier that he can just listen to it and not watch it.
But when you're in the theater, you don't use your phone.
You're one hundred percent invested in the movie.
Speaker 2So that's right.
Speaker 4That's right, and and it's awesome to see it in the theater because until you release the well, you kind of like, because you're such a big screen, you're usually not like looking at other parts.
You're just like sometimes look for mistakes.
You're looking for other things, and you know time you pick up different dialogue too, So.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah, it demands your attention.
Speaker 2Mm hmm.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 4I think the weakest part of this movie is the Earth parts.
Speaker 1M I think that's part a true you primus saying I thought it was on time and said eight am.
I got here for listening feedback.
I think the time has changed, got you, buddy, Yeah, I think that's that's what happened.
Speaker 2Yep.
Speaker 4Hey, it was nice having the sextra hour though.
Speaker 1I was like, oh yeah, man, I used.
Speaker 2To wat ten am.
Speaker 4It's kind of nice.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2Actually, well, are you the kind of person where the time change is going to affect you for the next month and a half or y just crush it off.
Yeah, I've already forgotten about the time change.
Speaker 1I'll be back to normal by tomorrow.
Speaker 2I'm looking at the clock.
It says eleven o'clock.
It feels like eleven o'clock.
Speaker 4Except when the light goes down at like five thirty.
Speaker 2That's well, there's that.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2I work third shift, so you know, I'm not used to that.
Every once in a while in the summertime, I see that giant glowing orange orb.
Speaker 1So I'm like, light the light.
I hate the light.
It blinds us.
Yes, yeah, what do we got this week?
The last of con?
Is this week the last episode?
Speaker 2Yes?
Speaker 4Are you guys going to review that now?
Speaker 3Next week?
Speaker 4Like finish her up?
Speaker 1We'll finish up the movies.
I think we can get to CON after after Thanksgiving and all that.
Speaker 3So okay, Yeah, Hey, Glen Glenn Lake is in Bozeman, Montana and it's three hundred and one acres, So I don't know how there for a splashdown.
Speaker 4But uh I got another question is you know when they're fighting where the missile silo was with, you know, and they're just shooting all the guns in there, it's like, think how dangerous that might have been?
Speaker 2Yeah, there's a warp core.
Speaker 4Oh yeah, I mean a warp core a missile, you know, because in a missile, it's like basically if you hit that, it's gonna leak, you know, yep, it like it'd be so dangerous.
Speaker 2I heard some people say, well, where did they get the anti matter?
Where did they get the you know, the you know and all that.
Speaker 4It's the future.
We figured it out.
Speaker 2Well, here's the thing.
All these things like the Romulins use a quantum singularity.
The Federation uses matter and antimatter.
It doesn't matter what your fuel sources.
You just need energy for the warpels to create a warp drive.
Okay, so you could use electricity or or some other form of something that creates energy is what the mis cells need.
So you don't need animatter to do it.
You could use a nuclear reactor to do it.
Speaker 3So that and this, this wasn't a trip.
This was an experiment, right, you know the right the right brothers said Kitty Hawk.
You know, yes, they achieved flight.
They didn't fly anywhere.
Speaker 2No, they didn't go anywhere.
They're just.
Speaker 3Oh, it's working, it's working, it's working, it's working.
And then it crashed.
Speaker 1Yes, yes, yeah, so uh while both says it is our future, they probably improved landing tech and uh A tree prom says he watched Stargate for the first time this weekend.
It was awesome.
Next rewatch, maybe I guess the next one we're having so we're doing the next movie, right, that's the next Yeah, which one is the Insurrection?
Speaker 2Insurrection?
Speaker 4Yeah, the the okay, the Lost episode that yeah movie.
Speaker 3Ever we're watching Sea.
Speaker 1There you go and Dan Dan.
I figured out Glenn Lake is about three and a half hours from Quarterlane, so it's drivable.
Speaker 2I can go.
Speaker 1I can go inspect it and let you.
Speaker 3Yeah go check it out.
Yeah, you're gonna report back to us.
Speaker 1There you go.
My next week, I'll just take off forget it.
I'll just go drop everything and go do that.
Speaker 2I'd like to see how accurate like the Apollo missions, like where they landed, how close it was to where they wanted to land.
Yeah.
Speaker 3I think there's the reason they used the ocean.
Speaker 2The ocean.
Speaker 3Yeah, yeah, it's the biggest thing in the world.
Speaker 2Because I would imagine even like Michigan would probably be too small of a target.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 4Well, like I said, you know, Elon scot those rockets can land, so this is what how many?
Speaker 2Yeah, maybe it was something like that.
Speaker 4Names for the ocean, it'd be easier to land now than you know, fifty years that's true.
Speaker 2Yea is part of star trek lore captain.
Speaker 1That's true.
Yeah, yeah, that's nice.
Speaker 4We'll probably have a flying car coming out soon.
Speaker 2So, like you mentioned him in the same breath as Zephan Cochran, Yeah, the same same group.
Speaker 1Uh yeah, well we got playing car prototypes now so.
Speaker 4Yeah yeah, And then I was listening he was.
He was on some podcasts.
He was talking about he's gonna invent a flying car.
Speaker 1Yeah, a lot of people say that.
We'll see what it happened.
Speaker 2Anybody, anybody is crazy enough to actually attempt a real one.
Speaker 4It's Elon Musk, yes, and as the funds to do it right.
Speaker 1Has the funds to do it?
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2The dude's worth half a trillion dollars.
Speaker 1It's crazy.
It's crazy.
Speaker 4We could have a flying car WHI should be crazy and then have nobody like drive.
It will be just a I.
And we got to depend on AI working right.
Speaker 2Occasionally.
Speaker 4I see all my prompts turn out.
I mean I can't even get like Dan with the phaser right.
And I.
Speaker 2Love his handsticks out.
I love those AI things that you're doing, chazzz I absolutely love them.
Yeah, they're great.
Speaker 4It was crazy because I just took your pictures off you know your profiles, and then I can bind him on touch GPT and I was like, make these guys into extra figures.
And then it was just weird, how like half ass did it?
Speaker 1You know?
Speaker 2Yeah?
Speaker 4And then that new Sora you know, that's how I went on there and boom, yeah, just like typed out a prompt.
Speaker 2I appreciated it because my character in that looked very felt.
Speaker 1Yes, I.
Speaker 4Want white guys look like legends, you know, like yeah, legends, or they're all buff everything.
Speaker 2She combat and she's like, I want to talk about this scott action figure.
She was like, what do we want to talk about here?
Speaker 1She's gonna get you.
Speaker 4Some protein powder and you know your low carbonate buddy.
No more, let's get to this.
And so it's only egg white Scotty.
Speaker 3Go back, go back and ask it to make an inaction figure and then you'll get a true representation.
Speaker 4I just try that.
Now, Danielle, you're gonna see Paddington the musical.
Speaker 1Oh God, after that horrific thing.
No, it's too scary looking.
I put a I put a trailer in in the in the group, they have announced a Paddington musical is happening.
And in the trailer.
They show what Paddington's gonna look like, and it looks horrifying.
It looks like.
Speaker 2I still do.
Speaker 1Oh yeah, we'll get to that.
Speaker 3We'll get you really don't.
Speaker 1What's talking about is amazing.
Speaker 4Hey, patting it's on Netflix right now.
Speaker 1Oh yeah, yeah they all are.
Speaker 4So check it out.
Speaker 3Paddington and Paddington and wrestling.
That's where I drove the line.
Speaker 1There you go.
Speaker 4Understand wrestling.
Speaker 1Hey.
At the at the Jedi Alliance, they had the trick pinball machine right next to the wrestling pinball machine and between those two.
Speaker 2Nice.
Speaker 1All right, well we should.
Speaker 2Probably can I can I just do a little bit of house house Yeah, number one.
I started listening to the Shatner Verse books.
Speaker 1Uh, okay books.
Speaker 2Uh, they're good, They're good.
They were written by William Shatner himself.
He tried and and there's a lot of Kirk, you know, making love.
They made you read.
Speaker 3Them in your in your in your mind's ear.
Do you read them in William Shatner's voice?
Do you read them?
Speaker 2I'm listening to them William Shatner.
Speaker 3There it was a dark and stormy night.
Speaker 2Well, there's a lot of there's a lot of sensuality about it.
He's uh, he's he's got this beautiful Klingon Romulan girlfriend.
You'd have to listen to this.
The thing his resurrection, Yeah, his resurrection.
Oh all right, listen.
Speaker 3Yeah you said his his red erection.
Speaker 7But that's a whole other d I think I downloaded the Frog audio book.
Speaker 2God.
Uh.
Yeah.
So there's a prequel and then the Return is the one where it's that next generation era and I just got done with the sequel, that one, the Avenger.
Speaker 4I gotta this up there you go.
Speaker 2So I also played Star Trek Resurgence.
Uh, it's a download for I played it on the switch.
Speaker 1Uh.
Speaker 2It's kind of like a choose your own adventure kind of thing.
There's there's no action.
There's a few puzzles that you have to solve, but they're not very complicated.
It's a very passive game.
Ninety five percent of it is you just watching the story take place, which is a good story.
The Uh yeah, it's I don't want to give away anything.
If you want to check it out, it's like twenty bucks.
It's fun to if you don't want if you don't want a lot of controller action, you just want to you know, make a few decisions every once in a while, you can choose.
Most of the time you're choosing between like three dialogue boxes depending on if you want to be a jerk, a nice person, or something in between.
There's a few puzzles to evolve.
It's it's you're playing two characters.
One you're playing the captain of a ship, and you're also playing a lower decker.
Speaker 1Oh that's cool.
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah, So it kind of jumps back and forth.
Speaker 4Captain Noah on there.
Speaker 2Right.
It has to do with the icon the not the Iconians U portal, the one from the episode where right Riker goes down and the civilization has been gone for millennia, thousands of years and he makes the return.
That character portal makes a return.
So it's it's it's an interesting little storyline.
Speaker 4See.
I always thought maybe the board created those or something.
I thought that was going to tie in, like maybe way back technology.
Speaker 1Right.
Speaker 2Well, speaking of the Borg Genesis, they talk about that in the book series the Shatner Verse that I'm that I'm watching, and it has to do with the Star Trek one Star Trek the motion picture.
Oh, and the last thing I want to mention is uh Star Trek Uh.
The Grand Rapids Comic Con is coming up.
Yeah in Grand Rapids, Michigan at the Devas Place uh fourteenth through the sixteenth.
Alice Kreeg is gonna be there, the Borg Queen herself nice.
So that should be a good Anybody in Michigan if you want to meet up, let me know.
And then the week after that, Star Trek Chicago.
This is an actual Star Trek convention I mentioned on the show before.
I won't go through the list, but there's a there's a really big celebrity list, including William Shatner.
So that's November twenty and twenty third, Saturday and Sunday.
I'm gonna be there Saturday and the first part of Sunday.
So I want you to message me on Facebook.
I've already gotten one message somebody that wants to meet up.
We're gonna do a meet up Saturday night, probably at the restaurant at the hotel where the convention is taking place.
So stay tuned, check out the Facebook group.
I'll make an announcement when I'm in Chicago.
We're gonna meet up.
I'm gonna be giving away some of these awesome Trek cast stickers.
That's right, So get a hold of me, send me a message, and we'll do a meet and greet.
Sweet.
Speaker 1Very cool.
Well that's pretty much the show.
I guess we'll be back.
I don't whenever we're back, probably next week.
Speaker 2I might have a sched scheduling conflict next week.
Speaker 1Okay, we'll figure it out.
We'll figure But the next the next movie will be Nemesis or Insrection, Insurrection, insurrection, whatever.
Speaker 2One of those, one of those going.
Speaker 3And did you say did you say his erectionrection?
Speaker 1Yes, I'll send you a very special link.
You'll you'll approve, all right, I'll talk to you.
We'll talk to you guys later.
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