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Trekcast 446: Star Trek Insurrection Review, End of the Kelvin Universe, Star Trek Legos!

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Speaker 1

Trek, the Galaxy's most unpredictable Star Trek podcast.

Speaker 2

Coming at the Love from studios in Idaho, Michigan, and Maybe New York.

Speaker 1

This is Trek Cast, the galaxy Maybe Unpredictable Star Trek podcast.

Today on the show, we're going to talk about Star Trek Insurrection.

Plus we've got Star Trek News and your listener feedback.

I am Scott Boucher's and now the guy who pushes the buttons.

Speaker 3

It's Daniel Reyes.

Uh.

Speaker 4

We're hard starting our our third crew member.

So we just decided to go.

Speaker 3

We just decided to go.

Speaker 4

Yeah, and h you know, you can join us.

Speaker 1

Late.

Speaker 4

I realized as we were doing this, I'm the only one that cannot be hard started because.

Speaker 3

You cannot be hard started.

Speaker 4

Yeah, we can't hard start, Daniel.

Nope, Nope, I've got the got the warpfield bubble around me.

I'm gonna go.

We can't hard start even with the D even Yes.

Oh, we'll be talking about the D later.

But there's a very large and wonderful D out there, very very expensive, and people are very excited to get it.

There's gonna be a lot of boys d under the Christmas tree Tree she's hoping that d.

Speaker 5

Now.

Speaker 3

Oh, maybe that's what I should do.

Speaker 1

You know, I was thinking about I've done an ode.

Speaker 4

Have you been a good boy, Scott.

Speaker 3

I've been a very good boy.

I've been a very good boy.

Speaker 1

I should ask the people in the chat and in the Facebook groups.

I've done an ode to trek cast, I've done an ode to spot the deuce?

What should maybe for a little Christmas treat?

What should my next ode?

Speaker 5

So?

Speaker 3

Should it be an ode?

Speaker 4

Do you say the d win?

Speaker 3

If you should?

I do it ode to the d mm hmm.

It's should it be.

Speaker 1

Overly phallic, lightly phallic, or just medium?

Speaker 6

Like?

Speaker 4

You do the d as you feel it needs to be done.

Speaker 3

I'll do the d as I see fit.

Speaker 4

That's right, that's right.

Speaker 1

How you doing?

I like that?

Speaker 4

I like that.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

Speaker 4

We are animal lovers here.

Speaker 3

Yes, I love it.

Speaker 5

Great?

Speaker 3

You been good?

Speaker 1

Uh we we we got our first snowfall and I not much.

It's just it's just a dusting.

You can still see the grass and everything.

It's it's it's bittersweet because it means the start of a difficulty season driving at the end of the motorcycle season.

Speaker 3

But it's it.

Speaker 1

It's sort of the unofficial start of the Christmas season for me too, So.

Speaker 3

I don't know.

Speaker 1

That's yeah, I feel like I have to like take a deep breath and hold it until you know, early spring when the last snowfalls.

So you know, we need the weather modification net more than ever.

Speaker 4

A says good morning, trek casters.

Yes, hello, good morning?

Speaker 1

Is it?

Is it trek casters?

Is that what we are?

Speaker 4

I don't know, man, I mean.

Speaker 1

I guess we wouldn't be trek cast ees that that'd be everybody on the other side.

Because there there was that debate, that star trek debate, trek like you consider yourself a.

Speaker 4

Trekker or a trek e Yeah, trugger always sounded weird to me.

Speaker 1

Well, you know a lot of people said trekker, a lot of there's a big debate, and.

Speaker 4

And I, oh, there he is.

Speaker 1

Yeah, it's a mobile episode today because something.

Speaker 5

I may go in and out of coms.

Speaker 7

Okay, but that's you know, well can you hear me?

Speaker 1

You know, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3

Are you a treky or a trekker?

Speaker 1

All right, that's what that's what we want right now?

Speaker 3

You're a truck.

Speaker 5

Yeah?

Speaker 6

You know what I've said trecky two people.

I've never introduced myself as a trekker.

I think it's uh, I don't know, it's kind of pretentious, like, oh, I'm not a trecky.

Speaker 3

I'm a right to stop here, I jack.

Speaker 4

What do you guys think?

Trekker or treky?

What do you like?

Speaker 1

Look, I'm gonna end the debate once and for all.

I took you from the Great Bird of the Galaxy himself.

When Geene Roddenberry was asked, is it tru or trekker, he said, it's trekky and I should know.

I created the damn thing.

Damn Yeah.

So if it's good enough for Geene Roddenbery, it's good enough for Strong.

Speaker 4

Beard's That's right.

That's right.

Well, on that note, should we get to the uh to the news.

Speaker 1

Oh boy, let's let's see that Star Trek news.

Speaker 7

Yeah.

Speaker 4

Variety.

Uh, they did a big looking back at the first hundred days of David Ellison taking over Paramount and what's happened.

A lot of talk about UFC and their plans for the future to embrace AI, but there was one line in the article that has sent uh the Star Trek fandom into meltdown, and that is here.

I'll read the line.

The hope is to have a fresh Star Trek movie through the studio, though this studio has moved on from the idea bringing back Chris Pine, Zachary Quinto and the rest of the assembled JJ Abrams reboot, so officially the Kelvin universe is dead.

They are going to do something new.

I have also done some massive reading between the lines on this, so take this with a massive grain of salt.

This also, to me, tells me they're ready to move on from current iterations to shows, and once those shows are done, they probably want to do their own thing.

So I don't know if that will be a complete refresh reboot.

I don't know if that'll just be like a new show with a new crew, still same timelines.

I don't know, but I.

Speaker 1

Am out as long as they don't do what everybody wants exactly, as long as they don't do a legacy show or a TNG era movie, because nobody wants that.

Speaker 4

Give me live action Star Trek scouts.

Speaker 1

So you know, yes, maybe another just I know, another Discovery spin off.

Speaker 4

Yet another Yes, maybe taking.

Speaker 1

Place like another three hundred years in the future.

Speaker 4

Oh, let's do Star Trek, Let's hide it and so that way you got Discovery and let's hide it, they compare.

Speaker 6

Yeah, yeah, I'm.

Speaker 4

You know, just because we discovered things and now we hide things.

Speaker 1

Yep, I'm okay, rest in peace, you know, play tabs.

Speaker 4

And yeah, yeah, well, I mean we do also have one new Star Trek show coming, of course, which.

Speaker 1

Is yeah, yeah, I'll watch it.

Speaker 4

Yeah, Star Trek Academy, of course I'll watch it.

Speaker 1

Yeah, I'm not excited about it, but yeah.

Speaker 4

Well we got two seasons of it ready to go.

Speaker 1

So yeah, yeah, I'm looking for you know, if nothing else, I'm looking forward to doing this show about Academy.

Speaker 4

What do you want in a new Star Trek movie?

Would you want like a TG reboot?

Would you want a completely new something?

What would you guys want?

Speaker 1

You know, I'm I'm a simpleton.

I'm like a dog chasing cars.

I want I want uh legacy characters, you know, I want fan service, I want I want Captain Cisco back, and I want uh, you know, Jonathan Arch to pop in there, and I want t G.

I want the d I want all that stuff.

They're never gonna do it, and.

Speaker 7

Definitely yeahechnique talking about.

Speaker 1

Oh, okay, I want I want the NCC one seven one D.

Speaker 5

That's what I want.

Speaker 4

You want?

You want?

Speaker 1

Yes, exactly, Let's see seven D.

Speaker 3

Oh, God, go ahead and google that.

Speaker 1

Everybody see seventeen D.

It's just a short version of the Enterprise.

Speaker 4

Well, I'll tell you what I don't want.

I don't want a trilogy series set.

Yeah, I don't want a trilogy series set at the beginning of the Federation and we take three movies to finally end up with the Federation, right, which I could see that pitch happening.

Like, if we're gonna reboot it, let's start from the very beginning.

Speaker 1

What about if it was an Archer centric series.

Speaker 4

See, I think that's looking back, and I don't.

I don't think that's what these guys want to do.

Speaker 1

Okay.

Speaker 4

I think they want to just start their you know, fresh, their own thing.

Yeah, you know, I.

Speaker 1

Want them to start in twenty four oh three and then they can do whatever story they want to.

And I'd like them to Okay, maybe not shackle themselves to Cannon, but maybe you know, you know those little uh, those little things you see on kids and moms where there's a little leash from the from the mom's wrist to the kids wrist.

Give me one of those harness Yes, just harness yourself to cannon.

Loosely attach yourself to cannon.

Yeah, that would be a retractable, right, exactly, Just loosely get with cannon.

Uh just a little bit.

Okay, Yeah, I don't rewrite the entire history.

You've gotten a higher and you've got an entire history to base a new story on.

Speaker 4

Embrace it.

Speaker 7

Yeah, I want to know.

Speaker 5

I want them to continue into the future.

I do.

Speaker 6

Yeah, pick the wrong point to continue to the future.

Speaker 1

Not nine hundred years in the future.

Speaker 4

Yeah, yes, I think.

Okay, if you were to continue, you know, it just passed to the card shows you know that that kind of future, that timeline, and that way you're you're kind of blank slate.

You can do whatever.

And then all you got to do is one line in the movie somewhere where they just say the future is endless possibilities.

Yeah, we've seen alternative takes where they can go.

But anything we do forward can change things.

That would rewrite a lot of discovery and academy and then that would give people them, you know, the creative team, the room to not have to follow whatever those guys made canon, right, because then it would just be Discovery and Academy are just a possible future.

Speaker 5

Yeah, but they're doing that.

Speaker 6

They're doing Academy right now to write off Discovery right now.

I could get that if they wanted to do that, But yeah, do that while while they're actively continuing it that that doesn't.

Speaker 5

Make any sense.

Speaker 4

But what I'm saying is.

Speaker 6

The multiverse thing is just out done right now.

It's out of control.

The Arrow Verse did it for you know, seven years.

We had the whole multiverse saga in you know, in the in the MCU that they're still in the process of.

Speaker 5

Finishing up.

Speaker 6

The Flash movie delved into multi versus Pacemaker.

It's just the second part of the new you delve into multiverses.

It's like, okay, you know, we everyone knows they are multiverse is now, but it can't.

Speaker 5

Be the new go to tool for script writing.

That's just lazy.

Speaker 1

It's late, Yes, it's lazy.

Speaker 4

But the other thing, though, is by the time they get to this year, which pitch they go with, and then to actually make that movie is another two year process.

On top of that, we're not seeing this new movie for at least three years.

Speaker 1

Yeah, from which point.

Speaker 6

It's just gonna be, which means there's gonna be five other multiverse projects to point to and say, you're doing.

Speaker 4

The same thing they did right, right, So but I get I guess what I'm getting at is they have time to figure this out, and they've got time to get pitches, and we don't know how big of a priority Star Trek is actually to paramount right now.

You know, apparently the UFC was a big yeah.

Speaker 6

So and you know what, and you know what, the worst part about the whole multiverse thing is the one franchise that I wish wish would go to that well won't and that would and that's Star Wars.

If they could multiverse that sequel trilogy away, I would embrace that in a New York minute.

Speaker 5

But they won't.

They won't.

They're doubling down on it.

Speaker 6

We're They're like, hey, we're gonna give you more of the same in the next ten years.

Speaker 5

We're getting We're do it another trilogy.

Speaker 4

Oh yeah, I'm telling you, man, at some point you.

Speaker 5

Hated this ship.

Wait till you see this ship over here, Race Skywalker.

Speaker 4

I promise you it is only a matter of time until they reboot and remake the original trilogy.

You're gonna get a new Luke Skywalker, a new Princess Leah, a new Han solo.

Speaker 5

I don't think that's the answer, though.

Speaker 4

That is the big red button.

Hey, we're in trouble.

We need to save this franchise.

Hit it, let's reboot, let's completely start over.

That's gonna be what.

Speaker 1

Is the biggest most iconic franchise that's been rebooted like that?

Speaker 4

Oh man.

Speaker 1

One of the people said, you can't do it, because because I would, you know, the franchise is a lot of that I've heard people say you can't do it is back to the Future.

You just can't reboot it.

It's it's too iconic, you can't.

Speaker 4

I think you meant.

I thought you meant ones that have been rebooted successfully.

Speaker 1

Yeah, give me give me an example one that's been done successfully.

Speaker 4

I mean, you could argue King Kong.

That thing has been rebooted over and over again and it does pretty well.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

Speaker 6

The Battlestar Galactica, yeah, from the two thousands is superior to the original in every single way.

Speaker 1

Yeah, agreed, I don't think Yeah, I mean, yeah, even though even though, duy, even though it was shown on the Office that it was basically a shot for shot remake.

Speaker 6

Those those who don't watch The Office aren't going to get that job.

Speaker 4

So yeah, yeah, that's right.

Dan Animal's got road rage.

Now he's coming to my house.

He's driving to my house to make me watch it.

Speaker 5

Yep, I'm changing course.

So you have to do it.

You have to do it, but I will, but I will say.

Speaker 4

This, this is America.

I don't have to do anything.

Speaker 3

No, you have to.

Speaker 5

If.

Speaker 6

Yeah, the first season, which is a shortened season because it's it was a mid season replacement.

The first season is a little rough, Okay, so when you when you try it, you gotta promise us that you will finish the first season and get a few episodes into the second season before you can't jump ship the first season.

Speaker 4

Okay.

Speaker 6

They did a major overhaul between.

Speaker 5

Season one and two.

Speaker 7

Okay, and it made all the difference.

Speaker 5

But really, seriously, Dad, you gotta watch it.

Speaker 6

I don't know how you have existed in the US in the last fifteen years and you have not watched that.

Speaker 4

To make it worse, that's when I worked into TV news at the NBC affiliate.

When that show was out, I had no reason not to watch it, and I didn't watch it.

Speaker 1

Yeah, yeah, you definitely have to check it out.

And then and then when you're done with that, you have to watch Parks and Rec.

Speaker 3

May I love Parks and Rec part.

Speaker 1

Yeah, the Office is is sort of in the same vein.

Speaker 7

Yeah, the Parks and Rec.

Speaker 6

Parks and Rec was originally developed as a spinoff of the Office.

The original idea is that a copy machine from dunder Mifflin was shipped to the Parks and rev pres department.

Speaker 7

In what is it twenty Yeah, yeah, and through.

Speaker 6

The development process they kind of just got rid of the spinoff idea.

But it's totally shot in the same way.

It's it's totally inspired by it.

Speaker 4

Yeah, the same kind of vibe, is what I understand.

Speaker 7

Yeah, yeah, all right.

Speaker 4

Let's get to the next news stories because we've just been going on.

So our next news story comes to us from a news source Lego dot com.

Oh yeah, this is the thing that, this is the big thing everybody has been talking about.

So let's uh, let's bring this up.

You know, let's let's show the d on the internet.

There it is, baby Glorious Giant three six D with a bunch of minifigures.

This is coming out on Black Friday.

It will go for just just under four hundred three ninety nine and if you get it within a small time window, you also get a little shell craft as a gift from Lego.

Aw So, it will be available on Lego dot Com and Lego stores.

Uh so, yeah, are you guys gonna get the D for Christmas?

Speaker 1

Look, I'm not big, I'm not baked with novelty versions of IM not a huge Lego.

I love Legos, I don't use them.

I Legos is one of those things that I wish I was into, but I'm not.

But I've never you know, this is the This, this attempt to draw me into Legos is is Lego's biggest.

Speaker 3

Almost win for me.

Speaker 1

But I still won't.

I still won't buy.

But not.

If it was one hundred dollars, I might have a discussion.

Speaker 3

But four hundred dollars is.

Speaker 1

Not something that I don't.

I have other things to spend my discretionary in.

Come on, it's uh, it looks great.

I'm sure it's a lot of fun to build.

You know, if there's any if there's any treck cast listeners out there that has a cool twelve hundred dollars to spend, send us each one, well, review it on.

Speaker 3

The show.

Speaker 4

Or if leg wants to send them, or if.

Speaker 1

Lego wants to send out, yeah, be happy to review then yeah, yeah, absolutely yeah, glowing.

Speaker 4

Reviews indeed, indeed.

Speaker 1

But I love it.

It looks great, it looks the figures look awesome.

I've even got an email about it later.

Speaker 4

Okay, great, great, Yeah.

Speaker 1

It's uh now that's the seven.

Speaker 3

What does it come with?

Speaker 1

It looks like there's nine figures there, yeah, and spot and spot, so it looks like we got a gun in and.

Speaker 4

Then we got a gun in uh.

Speaker 1

And then the magnificent seven.

Okay, yeah, cool.

Speaker 4

So get a little plaque that says it's the enterprise, Dan, are you gonna get the d.

Speaker 1

Ah?

Speaker 5

It looks like to uh to give it some thought.

Speaker 4

I'm on the fence, yeah.

Speaker 5

I you know, I love cool toys.

Yeah, I don't have a lot of leg My son has a bunch of Legos.

I have a bunch of h.

Speaker 6

Fox, which is the Mattel version of Lego that are compatible with Lego.

Speaker 5

I have the Giant.

Speaker 3

I think it's like.

Speaker 6

Pieces I've got Castle of Gray Skull.

Speaker 1

Oh yeah, Sneak Mountain.

Speaker 6

I've got all the little minifigures that came with that, all the little vehicles that came.

Speaker 1

Out with that.

Speaker 3

You grew up in the eighties without tellus you grew up in the eighties.

Speaker 4

Let me give you an idea.

Speaker 7

Let me give you an idea.

Speaker 4

How big this thing is?

This thing is ten and a half by twenty three and a half inches by eighteen and a half inches.

This thing is giant.

Speaker 3

Two feet long?

Is big?

Yeah, Yeah, it's a big It's a big D.

Speaker 4

That's a big D.

Speaker 1

It is.

Speaker 6

My my my one hang up, My one hang up with Legos is the figures.

Speaker 5

I hate the I hate the figures.

Speaker 6

They were designed in the early nineteen eighties and they have just not changed.

Speaker 5

They've not been updated in any way.

And I know they're not going.

Speaker 6

To because it's it's the iconic Lego Man figure, and they have cartoons and movies with that design, Lego Batman, the Lego Movie.

I get all that, But for me, you put a you put a Mega Blox figure and a and a Lego figure side by side, and you know, the Megablox figure is superior in every way, and they did.

They did some Star Trek ones a few years ago.

I have a I have a I think I have bookard data and a and a couple of boards and they look great.

And I was hoping they could do the whole the whole.

Speaker 5

Thing, and they and they didn't.

Speaker 7

Yeah, but there's.

Speaker 6

Also another company called Blue Bricks, and I think they're a European company.

Speaker 5

They don't sell.

Speaker 4

Oh no, we're losing Dan.

Speaker 1

He said there was another company called Blue Bricks.

I've never heard of them, but yeah, yeah, I'd be curious to find out how many people are, like if anybody in the chat, if anybody in the Facebook group or Instagram group gets the set post some pictures of it.

Speaker 4

Kess wants to know where will I put the dans.

Speaker 1

I have a few suggestions.

You could put it on your shelf, you know, something like that.

Yeah.

Speaker 6

Hey, so, yeah, there's another company called Blue Bricks.

It's a European company.

They had a Star Trek license for the last several years.

I think it's compatible with Lego.

I don't know if they have any any figures or anything, but I know that you can get kling on ships.

Speaker 5

You can get Deep Space nine.

Speaker 6

There's there's a whole, you know, mess of stuff over there that that never made it to the States.

Speaker 5

And I think you can get some of this stuff through Amazon.

Speaker 6

So if you like the idea of this ship, but maybe you don't want to spend the four hundred dollars, there might be some other.

Speaker 5

Options for you there.

Speaker 4

Yeah.

I just found the uh the DS nine that they made, and it's on Walmart dot com for two hundred and fifty bucks, right, yeah, and it looks pretty large and in charge.

Yeah.

Speaker 1

Yeah, I'd be more interested in and they're hard to find now, but I'd be more interested in building a.

Speaker 4

Model Yeah yeah, me too, Me too.

Speaker 1

And and I think I think that this winter I'm gonna try a model project.

Oh yeah, I wanna.

Yeah.

I want to see if I can find either either one of the iconic ships either the except for original series, so either D Space nine or the Defiant or the Enterprise D or Voyager something in that in that ilk.

If I find a discovery, I'll send it to Dan.

Speaker 4

There you go, you don't have to.

Speaker 6

There was a guy.

There was a guy used to go to conventions.

I saw him a couple of times, and he would have models there that he built, and he would just sit there and paint them.

And he was like he had his system down.

And when I when I say he would paint them, I mean he would do the ad they call it as teching.

I think where you're painting like the individual.

Speaker 7

Panels, you know the idea.

Speaker 6

Not every one of them is the same, the exact same shade of ray, so you get that.

Speaker 5

Like checkered the fact.

Speaker 1

Yeah, it was amazing.

Speaker 6

So I don't have that kind of skill, So I don't know if I want to.

Speaker 5

Do a model.

Speaker 1

Right well, you know, I mean, I'm sure he didn't have that kind of skill when he started out too, So you know, maybe I'll get like the simplest version they got.

And I don't even know if they sell them anymore, Like I don't know what company made made him back in the well.

Speaker 6

Still this the thing with models.

There's plenty of old stock out there.

Speaker 1

Yeah, yeah, sure you want.

Yeah, maybe I could buy one of those reliants that I gave you guys back there.

Speaker 4

You go, all right, And then our last news story comes to us from ah, what is this h slash film?

Or I film something like that?

Yeah, I film, Okay, and we're finding out more about that Scott Bacula show that we keep hearing rumors about.

If you haven't heard, this is the first time you're hearing this.

There are reports that there is a President Archer show in the works.

These have been the rumors for quite a while now.

It's not necessarily a rumor in that the the producer of the show, has come out and said that he's trying to work on it.

It's not you know, anything that paramount has confirmed.

Sounds more like it's a pitch and he's trying to rally excitement for it.

But Scott Bakula was asked about this recently on a morning talk show and he said, quote, of course I would love to do more Star Trek, but I can't clear up any rumors because I didn't start them.

They're not they're not planted.

They're just people talk about stuff.

Star Trek fans are spectacular, ardent, and loyal.

It's fun to be around them, and they're running with something.

A little piece of information went out and they're having a ball with it, so enjoy So that's it.

He's just like, yeah, that would be nice, but nothing in the work, so okay, sounds about right.

I mean that's about what we knew anyways.

So what do you guys think?

Do you want this show or not or.

Speaker 3

Accurate?

I thought the enterprise was cut short.

I'd like to see that story continue.

Yeah, see what happened.

Speaker 4

Well, there you go.

Speaker 5

About President Archer.

I don't know if that's really what I want to see.

Speaker 1

Like Star Trek West Wing, Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 4

You know, I I've been thinking what would be an interesting Star Trek show is Star Trek Medical.

Yeah, we're where it's kind of like like an er type show where they're dealing with with medical emergencies, but there's then the exploratory component to it where they have to figure out, how do we, you know, cure these alien diseases.

We have to go to different planets to get you know, this plant or that thing there to to cure this problem.

And so it wouldn't just be based in a you know, in a hostel spittle, but as they travel around and do things to solve medical that.

Speaker 6

They might as well clone the Chicago franchise and just have Starfleet Security complete fire suppression system followed by Starfleett.

Speaker 4

You know what that that's not actually a bad move because those shows are so popular.

Yeah, if you want to grow the franchise, that's a that's a good template.

So I don't know, it's an idea.

Whatever.

Yeah, yeah, Scott's not too happy about that one.

Speaker 1

Whatever.

Speaker 4

Yeah, all right, Well should we get to the main topic and uh talk about a you know, forty year old movie or whatever?

Fine?

Will now command.

Speaker 1

Up interaction the Insurrection.

This was a great episode of Star Trek.

The Next Donation.

Speaker 4

Yes, this came out December eleventh, nineteen ninety eight.

It had a budget of seventy million dollars and made a box office of one hundred and eighteen million.

Speaker 1

The Rotten Way to Building the Bakka Village, Yes, yeah, I bet yeah.

Speaker 4

Yeah.

Speaker 1

Not to mention the rest of the movie with CGI, yeah yeah, and not done by ILM.

Speaker 5

It was.

Speaker 1

It was the first movie first they did.

Uh, Generations was and uh first Contact was done by ILM, but ILM was busy doing other stuff.

Speaker 4

Okay, well, the h the Rotten Tomato scores are pretty rough.

Yeah, the Rotten Tomato scores are pretty rough.

It's got a fifty four from critics and a forty from fans.

Speaker 3

So yeah, it wasn't it wasn't the greatest.

It wasn't the greatest.

Speaker 1

Yeah, but I still I you know, I'm still a big fan of This was directed by Jonathan Frakes, was Jonathan Freak production.

Rick Berman, Michael Pillar and and uh Patrick Stewart were producers.

I I'm still a big you know, even even for the shoddy writing and the semi okay visual effects, I still give Jonathan Frakes props for for directing this.

Speaker 3

It was the okay ist Star Trek movie.

Speaker 4

Yeah.

It was an okay two parter episode.

Yeah, that they that they released in theaters.

Speaker 1

I can't point out I mean, other than knits or you know, stuff like that.

I can't point out any glaring, large bad things about this movie like you can about Nemesis or Star Trek five or you know, there's nothing, it's it was just a an okay story.

Speaker 4

Yeah, I appreciate it.

They tried to do something different with like a Fountain of Youth type story.

I just don't I don't find the Fountain of Youth that compelling for myself.

Speaker 1

Right.

What the thing I liked about it is that there it wasn't it And I kind of feel like Guardians of the Galaxy three took a page out of this playbook.

It wasn't a galaxy ending threat, right, that's also what because it wasn't bigger and bigger and bigger.

Speaker 4

And bigger, you know, yeah, yeah it was.

Speaker 1

It really only affected six hundred people.

And I kind of liked that.

Speaker 4

Yeah, I did like that.

Yeah, I did like this scaled it back.

Speaker 6

They kind of reference that in the beginning of the movie when they're in the sermo lift and he says, does anyone remember when we were explorers they went down the list of all the ship they.

Speaker 7

Have to do in the next few days?

Speaker 6

Yes, does anybody remember when we were explorers?

Yeah, and he was He could just as easily have been saying, does anyone remember when we told small stories?

Speaker 1

Right?

Speaker 4

Yeah?

Speaker 1

Yeah, yep.

Speaker 4

Yeah.

Speaker 1

So timeline wise, this takes place at the tail end of season six of Deep Phase nine, so we're right smack dab in the middle of the Dominion War, and there's some dialogue at the beginning of the film in that same scene where Card's like, no, no, no, we can't delay blah blah blah.

That'll delay our archaeological dig It'll put us in the middle of the monsoon season.

So it's pretty obvious that the Enterprise E is not on the front lines.

It's not fighting the Dominion War.

And I kind of get that.

You know, you don't put your unite this ship on the front line.

I mean, there's other sovereign class starships.

There's a thousand Federation starships that there.

I I understand Starfleet wanting to have a few ships doing non war stuff.

Speaker 6

You know that that and if the flagship gets destroyed, oh, morale, huge blow to morale.

Speaker 1

Yeah, yeah, they probably wanted to keep keep them out of harm harm's way.

So I get because I've heard that being a knit why wasn't the Enterprise on the front line?

You know, it's the best ship in the fleet.

Yeah, the Enterprise being on the front line wouldn't have made a bit of difference in the outcome of the war.

So, yeah, take place, right, war.

Speaker 6

So Alpha Quadrant's a big place.

The Dominion War was what's happening in that corner of the galaxy.

Speaker 5

Deep space nine?

Speaker 1

Right?

Yep?

Speaker 5

You know there's the whole rest of the quadrant.

Speaker 1

Yep.

I watched the movie.

I actually watched the movie twice.

Last night, my wife and I watched twice all the way through and then we watched the commentary with Jonathan Frakes and Okay, and I gotta tell you, Uh, Jonathan Franks and Marina Sertaz if if if you didn't know they are friends in real life, they got a ton of chemistry.

Uh.

They are obviously in love with each other as friends.

They they love each other's spouses.

They you can just tell that they're they're you know, their great friends, their buddies.

Yeah, you know, they call each other nicknames.

And it was it was fun listening to them do the commentary.

And it's funny because it's obvious that Jonathan Franks is the star trek guy and Marina Certez was just on the show because every two minutes Marina Certaz was like, wait, what's going on?

And what's that thing?

And I don't remember this at all.

Speaker 4

Yeah, that's awesome.

Speaker 1

Yeah, she is just as technically minded as her as her character.

Speaker 4

Nice.

Speaker 1

Yeah, it was funny listen like what's going on and Jonathan Franks would have to explain it to her like she's like, well, why did they why did they try to plow up the ship?

And Jonathan Fraks is like, because they're they're the bad guys.

They're they have no moral compass.

That's why.

Oh it was great.

Speaker 3

So if you if you have I have the Blu ray set that came out.

Speaker 1

Based on dialogue that they said during the commentary, it sounded like that they did the commentary right around two thousand and nine.

Mm hmm, so.

Speaker 3

Yeah, it was.

Speaker 1

It was.

It was a lot of fun, a lot of fun.

Speaker 3

You know.

Speaker 4

I'm just now thinking, how old were you guys when this movie came out December of nineteen ninety eight.

Speaker 5

I was twenty one years old.

Speaker 1

I was nineteen maybe, yeah, I was nineteen Okay.

I I was joking with my wife, I'm like, this is the last.

This was the last Star Trek movie, though I saw before I met you.

Oh yeah, did.

Speaker 4

You guys see this one in the theaters?

Speaker 1

I did see this one of the theaters.

Speaker 4

Okay.

Speaker 6

I saw it on Uh I think I saw it on Thursday night at mid night.

Speaker 4

Oh dang, yeah in costume.

Speaker 7

Not in costume, okay, not in costume.

Speaker 1

But I did say it might have been wearing a Star Trek shirt.

Speaker 4

But yeah, I was.

Speaker 6

Probably wearing a leather jacket with a combatge on it.

Speaker 3

There you go, there you go love it.

Speaker 6

I remember at the time really wanting to love it mm.

Speaker 5

Hmm, but only but only liking it.

Speaker 7

Yeah, I didn't hate it at the.

Speaker 1

Time, but no, I just well, we were looking for a kick ass sequel to Star Trek First Contact, and that's that's what we got.

Speaker 6

Yeah, and you were watching, you know, we're watching the sixth or seventh season of Deep Space nine at the time, which was, you know, awesome once a week.

Speaker 5

I was looking for more.

I was looking for.

Speaker 4

More awesome mm hmmm.

Speaker 6

And uh it was fun.

It was fun, but it wasn't great.

I can remember I can rolling my eyes when the the Manusting col came up.

Yes, I was like that that a grabby game bro.

I got one of those up my gateway two.

Speaker 3

Thousand, ye, sir.

Speaker 4

Was there's like a there's a there's a reddit thread that points out things in movies like and where you can buy them, and like they will screenshot things and be like, oh, that's this thing and that's that.

Speaker 6

Yeah, there's one of the famous things the first Alien movie.

Speaker 5

There's this thing hanging from the ceiling.

I don't even know what it's supposed to be.

Speaker 6

Huh, but it's it's totally it's totally a The Japanese version of what would later become Shockwave was one of the original g One Transformers turned Oh.

Speaker 4

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Hanging.

Speaker 5

He's hanging from the sailing upside down and once you see it, you can't.

Speaker 4

Unsee it, right, right, is a Transformer just sitting there?

Yeah?

Speaker 6

And then I saw I saw a clip this morning of some black and white commercial that takes place at a news stand in the nineteen sixties, and in the background on the newsstand, number number fifteen is what it was, amazing fantasy number fifteen, which was the first appearance.

Speaker 1

Of Spider Man.

Oh, oh my god.

Speaker 6

That thing probably thrown away a week later.

Speaker 4

Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well, what did you think of the villain?

Was Rodolfo?

Speaker 1

Yeah, played by F Murray Abraham.

F Murray Abraham is an Academy Award nominee.

He's might have been, might be a winner.

I thought he was great, you know, he's a great actor.

The makeup, you know, God, Michael west you know, they talked about this in the commentary, Michael Westmore.

They call them Wes Moore heads, especially the aliens.

At the beginning that they were that were joining the Federation.

I thought the the makeup was great.

It was it was different than what they've done.

It wasn't just pointy ears or ridges on the nose.

They went all out.

It was obviously had a movie budget.

I think it was gross and great about the skin stretching and.

Speaker 3

The stuff like that.

Speaker 1

Yeah, you know the I thought the plot where the Sona and the Bakhu spoiler alert for those who haven't seen the movie, the Sona and the bak Whu are the same race.

I thought that was kind of an interesting, you know, a little connection.

Speaker 5

I remember.

Speaker 1

Yep, and uh, I remember looking at that when when when Doctor Crusher tells Picard, he's like, look at these look at their DNA profile and it shows a picture of the tray corder and I'm like, that's the same image of the try qorder that's always displayed on the tri quorder.

Speaker 4

Mm hm.

Speaker 1

And and it made me think of I just got done with the with the video games Star Trek Resurgence, and in the video games Star Trek Resurgence, they recon the tricorder in a way that makes sense, so it's still the exact same try chorder, only in the game, the tricorder can emit a holographic image above the tricorder with a large display.

Oh okay, yeah that makes sense because nobody's gonna want to watch.

I mean this, the window on a tricorder is smaller than an iPod, right, right, and so it makes sense.

And I like the way they reconed the tricorder in the game, where they had a holographic image above the tricorder that they could actually read from.

But that was one of my nitts from the movie.

But I liked.

I liked the connection they made there.

Speaker 4

I think if you were gonna go for a villain that is obsessed with the Fountain of Youth, he needed to be a little bit more vain and into his own looks.

Speaker 1

Yeah, I thought they, I mean they addressed that a little bit.

Speaker 4

A little bit, but I think you yeah, I mean, maybe that's too cartoonish, you.

Speaker 1

Know, right right he look he does look in the mirror after a session of flesh stretching with with five.

Speaker 4

Yeah, yeah, I mean it's subtle, right, Maybe they decided just to go that route with it.

Speaker 5

Do we know who played.

Speaker 6

His second in command?

Because speak, I think it's Michael Ironside.

Speaker 1

It's not Michael irons Pride.

Speaker 5

But yeah, I can see why you always to look it up.

Speaker 1

Yep, yep, yeah yeah, I and I you know, I like the I like the speech that Picard gives Golna.

I like the how he kind of makes him flip.

I I'm not pleading for your life.

I'm pleading for yours.

It was both a great line and very predictable, especially for cap Card.

Uh, but I thought it was great.

Yeah, I I I like the movie.

I enjoyed it.

I really did.

Speaker 6

Yeah, and uh, this was this was Will Farrell's first serious role.

I'm wondering why he didn't get more.

Speaker 4

What are you talking about?

Speaker 6

Oh nobody?

Oh man, all right, the Baku leader, I don't know.

He always looks like Will Farrell.

Speaker 4

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

Speaker 1

We believe if you make a machine to do the work of a man, you take something away from the man.

Speaker 6

Guy.

Speaker 5

Yeah, that guy.

Speaker 4

The thing that should be right over chat gpt that quote.

Speaker 1

Right yeah yeah, uh.

Speaker 5

All right nitpicks.

Speaker 4

Yeah.

Speaker 1

When they're on the hollow ship and they shoot the the sona guy, he obviously lands on a mattress.

Speaker 6

Yeah yeah, I mean that's yeah, that's Hollywood.

Speaker 1

The burying the hollow ship in the lake I thought was weird.

And even when they drained the lake, I'm like that that the perspective looked weird to me.

Yeah, and it's a hollow ship.

Speaker 5

Why do you have to hide.

Speaker 1

It, right, especially if it's a cloak.

Yeah, you can just hide it out in the middle of a field.

Yeah, I thought that was weird.

Speaker 3

Uh So when data.

Speaker 5

When data starts malfunctioning in the beginning, Uh.

Speaker 6

Huh, why didn't they just be going back to headquarters?

Speaker 4

Yeah?

Speaker 3

Why are they changed?

Speaker 5

Why are they changing through the streets?

Speaker 3

Yep?

And why did he sound out of breath?

Speaker 1

Yeah, he's running, he's like rerouting micro hydraulic pressure.

Speaker 4

Yeah.

Speaker 5

The kid with the squirrel in his pocket.

I know, I know.

Speaker 6

It's the late nineties and we got c G I now and we're dying to use it.

But we don't need to see the squirrel in your pocket.

That added absolutely That added absolutely nothing to the film except costs.

Speaker 3

Yeah, yeah, yep.

Speaker 6

You could take that thing out completely, have it wuld probably be a better moment.

My other nitpick is the baku Like I'm not even sure I understand it, but they can not only do they have the fountain of youth, but they can will time to slow down around them.

Speaker 5

I don't get that.

Speaker 1

Well, it's funny because Picard asked her about that specific asked Ane specifically about that, and I think the writers didn't want to address that like they did.

They wanted to leave that vague because he says, your mental abilities did did they?

Speaker 3

Did they develop here?

Speaker 1

And she goes, oh, you have more questions, like, they didn't specifically answer it, so I guess whatever your head canon.

Speaker 4

Well, and then when they're like, oh, yeah, the it.

Speaker 6

Did nothing for the it did nothing to further the story.

It did absolutely nothing to further the story either.

Speaker 4

It didn't need it, So I thought it was kind of dumb when they're like, yeah, the planet radiation doesn't affect the kids still they're older.

Speaker 1

I mean I kind of looked at it like, you know, a vampire, you know, an adolescent vampire, doesn't you know, they don't they they're not born, grow to twelve and then just stop growing.

They grow to you know, a maturity, and then they stop aging.

That's kind of how I took that.

Speaker 4

No, I guess my thought is like, so I shouldn't biologically.

Speaker 7

What Dan, Go ahead, No, I think I'm on a delay.

Speaker 5

Go ahead, I'm gonna.

Speaker 4

I'm gonna reset you, okay, okay, So yeah, So my my thought is, Okay, they're all, you know, biological creatures, right, they're all people.

Why why would the radiation not affect the children?

Sure they would eventually grow, but it would take longer.

Speaker 1

Yeah, Chasmis says, it's like baby Yoda.

Yeah, yeah, that I guess that would make sense.

Speaker 4

Yeah, I mean, if it's going to be a biological thing, that would make more sense.

And then they said, like, it doesn't affect the kids till they're older, till they're mature.

Okay, so then what happens.

Do they just stay eighteen for like, you know, fifty years.

Speaker 1

Or or they age really slowly?

Speaker 4

Yeah yeah, and then yeah, you know that's what I mean, Like, it doesn't make sense that they they age normally until they hit you know, maturity, and then it slows down.

Speaker 3

It's whatever the plot needs it to be.

Speaker 4

Yeah, that's what it is.

Speaker 1

But it's whatever the plot needs.

Yeah.

Speaker 4

Yeah, all right, Dan, what were you going to say?

Speaker 5

I was gonna say.

Speaker 6

When Picard is braiding the armory and the crew confronts him.

The card is wearing civilian clothes because he's decided to leave his his position on the Enterprise behind and go do the right thing.

M the crew confronts him.

Half of them are in uniform, half of them are in civilian clothes.

Speaker 1

Yep.

Speaker 3

Yeah, Richer already decided who's gonna be out that away team.

Speaker 6

We already decided who's going with the captain and who's staying on the ship.

It made zero.

It made zero sense, zero zero, said, especially since the only time we ever see warf wearing anything other than.

Speaker 5

A Starfleet uniform is when he is wearing what.

Speaker 6

Is cling on attire, and instead he was wearing a baby blue leisure suit or whatever the hell, whatever the hell it was.

So yeah, that whole thing made that.

That whole scene made zero sense.

Speaker 1

I learned yesterday to day what wharf sash is called.

Yes, I did not know that word until.

Speaker 4

What was it called a baldric warning warning NERD alert, NERD alert.

Speaker 1

A baldric is a belt worn across the body from one shoulder to the opposite hip to carry items like a sword, bugle, or drum or other other items.

Speaker 4

So wait, wait, that's a big difference a bugle or a sword.

Speaker 1

Okay, I'm just saying that's what it is.

It's a belt worn across the chest.

So the reason I I always I didn't know what he said.

And since I'm watching it on DVD, I had access to the you know, the closed caption, and Wharf comes out of the turbo lift onto the bridge after he's late, right, you know, and uh the card says something really fast, and I never caught it each time I watched it.

He says, straight, you're Baldric commander, and I'm like, what did he say?

He's like, fend your Baldric commander.

Speaker 3

I'm like what.

So I stopped it and.

Speaker 1

I said, I looked at the closed caption and it said pal Drake.

Speaker 3

Okay, so I looked it up.

Speaker 1

I didn't.

That was the first I never knew what he said before.

Speaker 4

Okay.

Speaker 6

So another thing that bothered me.

When they're going to meet the aliens at the whatever, the dinner at the beginning, uh P card steps off the turble left and the young ensign calls everyone to attend and nobody, nobody anoledges that the captain is on the deck, and I never understood why.

And I still don't understand why.

Speaker 1

Yeah, I never know.

I didn't notice that.

Yeah, now thinking back on it, right right, yeah, huh.

Speaker 6

Well one thing I did like when when when parts way dude.

Speaker 4

Oh no, we're losing them.

We're losing you, Dan, We're losing you buddy.

Speaker 7

Oh I'm still here.

Speaker 4

I can Okay, now, okay, say it again, say it again.

Speaker 6

So when Picard steps away, I can't remember if it was to talk to Jeordi or talk to Admiral Dougherty.

But when he's going to go back into the dinner and he puts that stupid thing back on his head.

Yeah, when the when the door opens, it's a transparent door except for the edge of the door.

When the door opens and it passes in front of his face, the opequa cart passes in front of his face.

He goes from a serious face ceiling face because he's about to go interact those aliens again and he's diplomatic fifteen minutes and I thought they pulled.

Speaker 5

That off really well.

Speaker 4

Yeah, I noticed that too.

Speaker 3

I noticed that too.

Speaker 4

All right, well, yeah, this is what I want to do next, is like, what was your favorite part of the movie.

Speaker 1

So definitely feeling aggressive tendency sir.

Speaker 4

Okay, Yeah, that's a good one.

Speaker 5

It was not the show too in the shattle Craft, it was not that.

Speaker 4

I want the sunrise.

Speaker 5

Yeah that was good.

Speaker 1

That was a beautiful moment.

Yeah.

Speaker 6

I enjoyed seeing riker and and Troy rekindling their their romance which had been below the surface for the last ten years.

Speaker 1

Do you like to see King taking a bath?

Speaker 6

Yeah, that's it.

That's exactly it.

Speaker 4

Scott Scott Scott when they when they shaved off the beard, are you weeping?

Speaker 3

I you know yet?

Speaker 1

No?

Yeah, I I did not.

I did not like that at all.

Uh So one of the reasons why they did that is a lot of female Star Trek fans wanted to see him without a beard.

Speaker 4

Hey I picture Scott raging like a monkey in the zoom.

Yeah.

I was like the table and screaming.

Speaker 3

I was like Darth Vader when he found out that Padme died.

Speaker 4

Yeah.

Speaker 1

Yes, I broke out my life saver and just started slashing everything in the house.

Speaker 8

Uh.

Speaker 3

DEAs says, except for that.

Speaker 1

Talking about going back to the squirrel, uh says, except for that, that little critter is the reason he goes back.

And Picard and the lady gets stuck.

So they were trying to show his attachment to that thing.

So that's the only reason why a knee got stuck in the first place.

Yeah, so it was a plot.

It was a plot device.

It was a plot device.

Speaker 4

Yeah, but that could have been an animatronic and probably be chea.

Speaker 6

It could have been like he built a sun dial at the beginning of the movie, and he wanted to take it with him because it was the first thing he ever built.

Speaker 5

And and oh I left it in the cave.

Speaker 6

I gotta go back for my sun dial, you know, it being a little like squirrel.

Speaker 5

That cost a million dollars to animate.

Speaker 1

I think they did it because somebody said, hey, let's make something that we merchandizing, you know, yeah, okay, I think maybe they were gonna merchandise it and that just never materialized.

Speaker 4

That that's probably realistically what was the goal.

But all right, so scale one divide, what do you give this movie?

Uh, solid three, you're gonna go two and a half?

Speaker 5

Yeah, I'm going two and a half.

Speaker 4

Yeah, all right, two and a half.

Speaker 6

It was like, you know, I am joyed seeing these friends again, but we didn't really do anything.

Speaker 5

We just hung around and talked.

Speaker 4

Yeah, that's kind of how I feel.

All right, Well, let's let's get to listener feedback X up in the chat if you want to join us.

But yeah, let's do that.

Speaker 1

Listener feedback, listener feedback.

I have an email, Yeah, yeah, go for it.

Let's uh, while I'm looking it up, let's tell everybody how we can get involved in the in the chat and the live chat.

Speaker 4

Oh yeah, yeah, oh what happened to Dan?

Speaker 1

Let me get to narrow Black.

Speaker 4

I'm here, okay, So you can leave us a voicemail at five seven zero six six one zero zero zero one.

That's five seven zero six six one zero zero zero one, and we would be happy to play your voicemail on the show.

If you keep it under two minutes, I will animate you and it will be hilarious.

We also are on all the social media's, so you can find us at trek cast, TNG and we're happy to interact with you.

And it is popping on all the social media's TikTok, YouTube, Facebook, Instagram, So yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1

A lot of Yeah, you guys are great.

We love the we love the fan interactions and when when when when?

Speaker 3

Daniel says, X up in the chat.

Speaker 1

So if you want to actually be on the show and talk to us live and be on the show, uh, you can get on our on our YouTube channel and watch the show live.

And when he says X up, he just means literally type in an X in the chat and that tells him that you want to be on the show and we'll bring you on and uh, you know, we'll talk about we'll talk about Trek.

So that's right right now, I've got an email.

It's I Scott.

It's Tim from Australia again.

Been waiting all year for the official Lego set of The Enterprise.

It was officially revealed this week.

You guys should definitely take a look at it.

Whilst looking at some of the images of the set, I noticed a spelling mistake.

Yeah, this was on the internet yesterday.

There's a dedication plaque for those of you who don't know, there's a dedication plaque buried somewhere in the Lego set and it says to boldy go bolt instead of boldly go, and Tim says, oh, dear Lego.

Also not their first spelling mistake.

They also had a spelling mistake on the Dolorean set.

Oh he says, I will be buying the set on Black Friday and we'll provide an update with build images once done.

Yes, yes, please do.

That'll be awesome.

Also, rest in peace to the Kelvin universe.

We didn't know how good you were until we got Discovery and Section thirty one.

Sorry for all the harsh words I said at the time.

That's tim.

Speaker 3

Hey, thanks bim.

Speaker 1

If if you want to send us an email, you can send us an email at treck CASTTG at gmail dot com, or you can send me one personally at strong Beard one seven oh one at gmail dot com.

Speaker 4

Yeah, and uh, we did have some Facebook just feedback on Insurrection.

Most people thought, if you reframe it as a long lost episode, it's enjoyable.

That was from Eric Robin said.

Other than First Contact, none of the Next Gen movies really did it for me.

Speaker 1

So yeah, it's just the next The next one was a dumpster fire.

Speaker 3

Yeah that one.

Speaker 4

Oh, I can't wait, I can't wait.

I have thoughts on that one.

This movie was so bland.

I didn't even want to like come up with what I would do with it.

I just it was what it was, what it was.

Speaker 1

Yeah, yeah, it was it was okay, I enjoyed it.

Speaker 3

I really enjoyed it.

I didn't have any you know, I didn't hate it.

Speaker 1

Like it's not like watching the motion picture where it's like, oh God, will this ever end?

She's part Trek five, where it's like, oh god, well this ever in?

You know, it was.

It was perfectly serviceable.

There there was you know, the pacing was okay.

I didn't have a big problem with any any one thing.

You know.

Speaker 3

I thought that the script was okay.

Speaker 4

You know, that's its greatest crime.

It was just okay.

Speaker 1

Yeah, And I'm a little biased.

I I thought the direction was good.

But I'm a Jonathan Frakes fan, so does everything everything he does Golden No, But I you know, he's I think Jonathan Frakes is the is the Spielberg of Trek.

There.

Speaker 4

There you go.

All right, we got Jazbiz on the line.

He's sitting there, so let's bring him in now, jaz Biz.

There you are.

Speaker 1

I love that Trek catat man.

Speaker 4

That's awesome.

Speaker 9

Yeah, I got the.

Speaker 1

I'm also wearing an old school Trek cast shirt.

Speaker 4

That's that's a reminder for people.

Chop Teas is still open right now.

They're going to be closing soon, So especially for our international friends.

You want to get free shipping on merch, now is the time.

Speaker 1

Yeah, So go to trekcast dot com and check out what is it?

Speaker 4

What is the store right at the top.

Yeah, there's a banner.

Click on that.

It'll get your regular chop te store.

Speaker 1

And I'm not just saying this and Dan has mentioned this in the past.

Two These are good T shirts really, I mean these are not like ones that fade right away.

These are comfortable, well made T shirts.

So I wear mine all the time.

Speaker 4

Nice, all right, Jasmins, what'd you think of the movie?

Speaker 9

It's like an episode of Star Trek that you play in the background and clean your house.

Speaker 4

Oh yeah, yeah, I can see that.

I can totally see that.

Speaker 9

There's some many episodes of Star Trek, like you know, there's not really not too many like that.

Maybe season two's, you know, season one of Nextain it's like, yeah, I remember this one.

I'll go do something else.

Just play it in the background and watch the good parts and then do something else.

Speaker 3

Yeah, it's not something I.

Speaker 9

Go back to.

I haven't seen this maybe probably like five years.

Right the director's commentary.

I kind of watched everything with it, and you know, kind of liked it.

Speaker 4

You know, do you guys ever put on something knowing you're gonna fall asleep, Like, yes, maybe mid afternoon nap or just even at night.

Speaker 9

And I play I played the old school doctor.

Speaker 4

Who's the Last Man?

This is definitely something I would put on, like in the background as I'm trying to sleep.

Speaker 9

Yeah, like, and this is the first time we've seen the captain's.

Speaker 1

Yacht, right yeah, yeah, yeah, yep.

Speaker 9

And it's pretty cool.

I liked it, but I had no idea.

And I wonder if that, you know, that's one thing they should have showed on the lego set is maybe well, I guess that D didn't have the captain's yacht.

Speaker 1

It did have the captain's yacht.

There was a captain's yacht on the bottom of that ship.

Speaker 4

I lived that Scott's got all this stuff, like right, yeah, I'm.

Speaker 1

Looking, I'm looking at the start.

I have a hard section right here, but I don't know where.

Speaker 9

It's like Dan when he's in his basement and he has like all these toys from.

Speaker 1

Yeah, well there it is, okay, yeah, the Enterprise D.

So here's the top of it, okay, and here's the bottom of it, and the captain's yacht is this guitar pick shaped thing.

Speaker 3

At the bottom.

Speaker 1

Oh okay, okay, it's it's yeah, shaped like a guitar pick, and it's it doesn't have any cells.

Speaker 3

It's not warp capable.

Speaker 1

According to the Star Trek Technical Manual, it's not warp capable, but it just drops down just like the.

Speaker 4

So you can kind of survey when they're near something.

Yep, yeah, okay, cool.

Speaker 1

And they they wanted to write it in a couple of times in next Gen, but costs and stuff, so yeah, they just didn't do it.

Speaker 4

There's dance, okay.

Speaker 9

So are you guys going to pre order this Lego?

Are you guys gonna skip.

Speaker 1

It or h Dan says he's on the fence about the Lego set.

I'm not gonna get it four.

Speaker 9

I hate that as four hundred dollars number.

Yeah, that's very pricey.

Speaker 4

Yeah, I will put it to you this way.

I bought the Lego Vultron.

That set was normally three hundred dollars.

I went to a certain Chinese website where they don't officially call them Legos.

They don't say Lego on the bricks, but they're made from the same factory.

And I got my Vultron for fifty dollars, so oh yeah, that's if I'm gonna do it.

That's gonna be the route I go.

Speaker 9

Yeah, yeah, okay, move version.

Speaker 4

Of yeah yeah, I might not get the minifigs, but I would get the d So.

Speaker 9

It might smell like a weird burnt plastic, but you'll have it.

Speaker 4

Oh, it doesn't smell like that.

By the time I get it.

It takes like three weeks to get over from China.

It's fine.

Speaker 1

Oh boy.

Speaker 4

Yeah, Dan is frozen in shock of my Yeah.

Speaker 9

His eyes aren't on the road.

He's just like looking.

Speaker 4

Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right.

We'll wait for him to come back.

Speaker 9

But yeah, figures like cool, Like if you pre order it, you get the shuttle craft with ins in row.

Yeah, and that's all gonna last a week.

Speaker 1

Shuttle Craft with insign Okay.

Speaker 9

Yeah, but it just sucks.

It's four hundred dollars.

That's that's the point.

It's like, ah, it's like, come on, guys.

And I really was hoping it would have been like because they do like the movie scenes right, or or like a TV show where it's like the set of the office or the set of Friends or Seinfeld just the Bridge or something with.

Speaker 4

Every Yeah, I'm sure that's coming.

I'm sure it's not gonna just be.

Speaker 9

That's what I want.

I want like the Bridge set with everybody and ten forward.

Speaker 4

I think if this was the Defiant for like, I don't know, one hundred and fifty, but a good sized Defiant, I think I would be more apt forgetting that.

Yes, but and dances, Yeah, dances.

He's out for the rest of the show.

It's too many technical difficulties, so okay.

Speaker 9

Yeah, but that's that's one thing I like about Lego Ideas.

They'll you know, somebody will make that set and then people will crowdfund it.

Yeah, and they'll release it later on.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

Speaker 4

Yeah, well that's what they're doing with the They announced they're going to do that with the Power Rangers.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

Speaker 9

Like Juni's just came out, was it two weeks?

Speaker 4

Yeah?

Speaker 9

Yeah, that Lego Ideas has been on there for like if you go on the website, you can kind of see what people are crowdfunding and it's kind of neat.

Speaker 4

Yeah, I'm sure you Frame Star Trek Lego video game coming soon.

God, I wish I would love the Lego video games.

Speaker 9

Yeah, I wouldn't play that.

I would play have all the jokes and everything.

Speaker 4

I literally recently got a p S five just so I could play that game that's coming out.

Oh yeah, okay, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 9

Try the Spider Man or anything.

Speaker 3

Yeah.

Speaker 4

I got Spider Man two, so I've been playing that.

Speaker 9

Yeah, that's a good one.

Speaker 4

Yeah.

I played the first one.

I like that.

So anyways, uh yeah, So it feels like we're starting to wrap up.

Speaker 3

Yeah, I've got a couple of things I start.

Speaker 1

Trek Con just released this last episode.

Speaker 4

Oh yeah, I want to do a full episode on that.

Speaker 3

Okay, let's do a full episode on that.

Speaker 1

Let's do that after we've done with with the movies.

We got one more movie to do.

I also just uh, there is a YouTube channel that I'm gonna I don't know, I don't have it offhand right now.

I'm gonna post it in the Facebook group a link to it that.

I have been listening to some audio books, some Star Trek audio books for free, and it even looks a little legit, like I think they've got a legit thing going on their older books.

I just recently listened to the first trilogy of The Shatter Reverse, and then I just read I read this book a long time ago, but I listened to it again.

Star Trek Homecoming.

It's a voyager book about the hours, days, and weeks after voyage it gets home from the Delta Quadrant, which chatter.

Speaker 9

You to YouTube.

Speaker 1

I'm just listening it on YouTube.

Speaker 9

Oh really, Yeah, there's audio.

Speaker 1

There's audiobooks on YouTube that you can listen to for free.

And like I said, i'm I'm I'm a little fuzzy on the legitimacy and the legality of it.

But the audiobook's been up for a month now and they haven't taken it down, so it seems like they've got some kind of deal.

They talk about it.

It's the audiobook is done not by an actual reader a voice actor.

It's done by AI, and they acknowledge that at the beginning.

They're like at the pacing and the pronunciation might be a little off, But I I enjoyed it.

It's not that bad.

I also just finished Star Trek Resurgence the video game, which was decent, kind of a choose your own adventure thing.

And then next weekend I'm gonna be at the Grand Appends Comic Con, that's running November fourteenth, fifteenth, and sixteenth.

I'm only going to be there, Des and I are going to be there, Uh, Saturday the fifteenth.

They've got how far away is that from you?

From me?

Speaker 3

It's about an hour forty five minutes to an hour.

Speaker 1

So no, no, it's it's not that bad.

In the past, we've stayed the night at a hotel near that.

I think we're just gonna leave in the morning and come back, yeah, that day.

But they put together a great comic con.

They got a lot of stuff there.

Speaker 4

Uh.

Speaker 1

The big star Trek actor is going to be there is Malcolm McDowell.

Alice Kreeg had to cancel for some reason.

But Malcolm McDowell's going to be there.

Nice or soaring from Generations.

Speaker 4

Yeah, yeah, clock an Orange.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

Speaker 9

I asked him about couple say today.

Speaker 1

And another cool thing about Yeah.

The other cool thing about the Con two is the US s to Come SE is joining their sister ship, the USS Grand Pataski at the comic con.

They are gonna be in the vendor hall.

They've always got a great uh, a great display.

I'm I'm I interviewed vern last year at the earlier this year, or it might have been last year at the comic Con.

They those guys do a great job setting up.

They've got a panel on Saturday from three to four, so I'm gonna be going to that too, So Grand Rapids Comic Con, uh, this this coming weekend, uh, and then the following weekend is Star Trek Chicago, and I will be there Saturday and Sunday.

So if you're gonna be at either one of these, hit me up on Facebook Messenger and UH, or just send a message in the in the Facebook group let let me know we're gonna be you're gonna be there.

I am gonna do a meet up that Saturday, not this coming Saturday, but the following Saturday at this in Chicago, and it's probably gonna be somewhere at the convention center.

So that Saturday night.

Speaker 4

Is miss going to software stores with all the Star Trek games, seeing the shuttle Craft models on the sholves.

I missed the nineties, no don't we all?

Speaker 8

Yeah?

Speaker 9

Yeah, if you've got a hobby lobby, you sentimes, you see the starterring models, so.

Speaker 4

Yeah yeah, and you get the fun yeah yeah, and you get the fun fact with the hobby lobby that they don't use barcodes because it's like the end Times or something like that.

Speaker 3

They don't use barcodes.

Speaker 4

No, look at any hobby lobby like tag, it's got a series of numbers, no barcodes because the owners believe that barcodes were mark or the were the.

Speaker 1

Yeah okay, okay, yeah, yeah, it's gosh forbid.

Speaker 4

Yeah.

The pork clerks have got to type in all these numbers every time to ring up your stuff.

Speaker 9

That's why it takes so long to check out.

Speaker 4

That's why it takes so long.

Speaker 9

Well, the hobby lobbies from Oklahoma.

Speaker 3

So you're like that chock.

Speaker 9

Checks out.

Speaker 4

Yeah, yeah, well we're never gonna get that hobby lobby sponsorship.

But well no, probably not, probably not.

Speaker 9

Brought to you by hobby lobby and Michaels or.

Speaker 4

Next week we will be like, yeah, so barcoes, that's the mark of the beast, right.

Speaker 1

Oh I think you.

Speaker 9

Guys cut off or talking about klingons in their anatomy, so.

Speaker 4

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, they wouldn't like that either.

Or how much we talk about.

Speaker 3

The D D.

Speaker 1

Yeah I got that too, Yeah, the double D.

Speaker 4

That's right.

Speaker 9

Oh god, okay, they talk about the double what about the ladies do they had doubled?

Speaker 4

Hey, hey, two of everything?

Speaker 1

Yeah, the N seven one v oh god, plenty of letters left in the alphabet.

Speaker 3

That's what the cards said.

Speaker 4

That's true.

Speaker 1

All right, well before you have to put a warning on this particular episode.

Speaker 4

Yeah, yeah, we broaly wrap it up.

Speaker 3

Yeah, hey, thanks for joining everybody.

We'll see you next week.

Speaker 1

We're gonna recap Star Trek Nemesis.

Speaker 4

Yeah, yes, or I like to call it Star Trek Tom Hardy Yes, yeah, yes, baby.

Speaker 9

On the bed for almost ten years.

Speaker 4

All right, see you guys next week.

Bye bye.

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