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Hey friends, this is Rick Renner and again, I'm on the balcony of our hotel in the eastern part of Turkey, standing in front of the beautiful Mount Ere.
And the reason we're here is because my team and I are filming a new series called Discovering Noah's Arc.
It is a 10 part series.
You oughta order the entire series because it is a full documentary of the Denar site, which is where the ruins of Noah's Ark today can be found on the lower mountains of aed.
Just like the Bible says in Genesis chapter eight, verse five, please order that 10 part series.
You will love it.
And we're also offering you my new book, which is called Fallen Angels, giants, monsters, and the World Before the Flood.
The subtitle says how the events of Noah's Ark and the flood are relevant to the end of the age.
And my friends, this book has more than 300 pieces of art and illustrations and graphics.
It will just cause the story of Noah's Ark and the flood to come alive to you.
And I really want you to have it.
So please go online or give us a call to order the series and to order the book right now.
And when you reach out to us, please let us know how to pray for you.
Jeremiah thirty three, three says, call unto me.
I'll hear you, I'll answer you and I'll show you great and mighty things.
And when we know how to pray with you, we'll pray with you in faith.
God will hear us, God will answer us, and God will do something great and mighty for you.
But now let's get in the bus and we're gonna return to the site of the Denar site, which is really where Noah's Ark today can be found.
And it's going to be awesome.
By the way, the weather is very prone to change quickly here, so we don't know what's ahead and that's why we want to get started now.
Well gang, here we are.
Yes.
Sitting on a big rock in the middle of Noah's Ark.
Wow, it's amazing.
Do you see the bow of the ship right up there?
Yes.
And look at the perimeter of the ship.
It is so clearly defined.
It's so defined.
It makes you think, Rick, about water breaking against the ship as it was floating.
Oh, that is right.
It just makes you think they were in here and the waters were crashing against it and they were in here speaking like we Are.
And just because of multiple earthquakes, the sides fell out from all around this.
So the arc just protruded up from the ground.
This is amazing.
But Andrew, Juan need to ask a question.
What is this big rock that we're sitting on doing in the middle of Noah's Ark?
Yeah.
So the critics will say, well, under the surface here, plus what you see exposed is a huge rock.
And over the years, water and mud float around it and formed they Boat.
They say it's a part of the bedrock, right?
Yes, it's connected to the bedrock and that most of the ship is a rock underneath.
But what the ERT scans, which is uses electricity and the GPR scans, all these scans had peered below the surface here.
And what they show is that this rock is actually free floating in the middle of the boat.
It's not connected to the bedrock here at all.
It might have come down with the boat or rolled in to where it's at today.
And so this formation is not because of the rock.
Well, that would explain why this side of The ship feels a little dented.
Yeah.
In fact, that's why it's kind of protruding out.
It's 138 feet at the widest point, right?
Right.
Over here because it kind of fell out.
But the shape, you can see probably this rock rolled into it because the shape is clearly defined on this side.
This Is clearly a ship.
But you know, before we go any further, I think that I need to read from the Bible.
So let's go to Genesis chapter six of verse 14 where God said to Noah, make the an arc of gopher wood.
And what's gopher wood?
Many believe it means the laminated wood using like pitch and the bitumen, something that would've glued them together, Which we would think is more recent technology.
But you know, God knows everything and God knew how to build a ship that would withstand the worst weather, the biggest waves in history.
That was watertight and water repellent.
And that's what Gopher wood was.
Wow.
He says broom shout th make in the Ark.
There's rooms in this structure Right down here in this valley.
That's where we are finding these ride angles, forming rooms About Seven feet down or seven meters down.
They now know that from the bow of the ship, there's a corridor that runs right through the middle of this.
This is brand new dated as this come out from our scans and we had our 2019 scans reanalyzed, and it's showing about four to six meters down.
Wow.
This opening a corridor down the central place of the boat, central line of the boat.
Now if you look at the very middle of the ship, there's a hump in the middle.
Why is there a hump in the middle?
This is probably the top floor, the deck that collapsed in.
But we're also seen with this new analysis that there's a, a central atrium that let light in through all the levels.
That's amazing.
Alright, let's listen to Genesis six, verse 15.
And this is the fashion with which thou shalt make it of the length of the arc shall be 300 qubits, the breadth of it, 50 cubits and the height of it.
30 cubics.
Okay.
Tell us about the dimensions of the ship.
So when you do the measurements, and we had a tour tourist come out in 2021 from Texas, and he actually brought his own tape measure and we measured it for him.
We made a little video and it was 515 feet long, exactly 300 Royal Egyptian qubits.
And the width is correct.
The width in the middle is a little wider than the Bible says, but if you take the average, they say it would equal what the qubits are plus as a decaying boat.
And you see in the ancient times as these wooden ships decay out, they splay.
So it's a little wider than what you would see in the, the biblical account.
And the height is also identical to what the Bible says.
Yet using the ERT scans, we're seeing these different deck layers where you add up the height of each one, it equals what it says in the Bible.
And actually that's what we read in the next verse.
A window shut thou make to the ark.
And in a cubit shut, thou finish it above and the door of the ark shut out.
Set in the side thereof with lower second and third stories.
Shout thou make it.
And the scans have shown that this structure has three floors.
Yep.
Andrew, this is Noah's Ark.
What else could it be?
What else could it be?
I one man said, can you think of any other ship 300 qubits long that would be resting on the mountains of a rat?
Yeah, I, I heard one critic write, he, he claimed that, well, this is a Mongolian fort in the shape of a ship.
Oh, right, right, right, right.
You see, it's the middle of a valley.
People get just shoot arrows down on it.
Why make a ship shape fort?
You know, people who don't wanna believe try to debunk everything.
Yes.
But the evidence is here and I think the evidence is irrefutable.
This really is Noah's Ark, and this is where life started.
And this is where God spoke to Noah and his family and said, be fruitful, multiply, replenish the earth.
And the eight of them together had quite a massive project.
But you know, the real landing place of the arc was not here.
It was right up there at the top of the hill.
And this is sitting in a big mud flow.
So over thousands of years it's moved to about 1500 feet lower.
And then it just stopped right here.
But you know, there is so much more we need to see before we move up to the landing site.
So I would like for our team to get out and walk the perimeter of the ship and really experience this amazing location.
You find a rivet.
It belongs to me.
Okay.
Okay.
Andrew.
I just kidding.
These are the timbers of the ship.
That's what we're looking at.
It's amazing.
You can just imagine how they were in this and we see the size of it, the sounds they heard with the animals and the water.
We're talking 40 days of the most intense storm earth has ever known.
And then a year of sitting in the Congratulations you made it to the bow of the ship.
Correct.
What did you guys feel when you were walking along the edge of the ship?
Joseph and Heather, Just such a sense of, of what this was doing.
That it was in the sea.
That it was in the water.
And they were in that for 40 days and 40 nights experiencing that kind of violent storm.
Well actually they were in the water A little over a year.
Amazing.
Yes, A little over a year.
Denise, what did you feel walking along the edge?
I was thinking about how steep it was actually is very Steep right now.
But guys, turn around and look behind us.
You can see the outside of the ship on the left side and the right all the way down to the stern.
And look in the distance.
You can see lesser air at, on the right, the snow is covering greater air at, on the left.
And if you look down below, those are just miles and miles and miles of lava.
Which is the reason why if the arc had landed there, it would've never survived.
But it didn't land there.
It didn't, it landed right up there.
And that's where we're going to be going in the next episode.
But before we do that, I've got something else pretty exciting to show you.
Are you ready to see something else?
Yes.
Is it, are you ready to join us?
Let's go.
And Andrew, this is beautiful.
Here we are standing by the very bow of the ship.
And right there we're looking at Armenia over there, we're looking at Iran.
And just behind us at the top of the slope is a watch tower, which is where the guards are guarding that border of Iran.
And here we're looking at the cliffs.
It looks like a saddled mountain.
And that is described in the epic of Gilgamesh.
That's amazing.
That is amazing.
And the Bible tells us in Genesis chapter 10, that after the flood, the first city to be established was called Misha.
Well guess what this mountain is called?
Isha.
Isha.
Oh wow.
And there is Isha.
Yeah.
And that is where Noah and his boys built the first settlement after the flood.
And today researchers have gone there.
And isn't it true they found ancient settlements there?
Yeah.
On this left hand side.
And then in the middle third, they've even found petroglyphs of animals.
What kind of animals?
They've said they saw petroglyphs of an elephant, a giraffe.
So these are animals, obviously not native to Turkey.
But you're gonna show us something else over here.
Tell me what you're gonna show us.
Yeah, so on this end of the, you know, the, the, the bow of the boat, a researcher about 20 years ago or 30 years ago, he shaved the top soil off the site.
He got permission to do this.
And what it revealed underneath all this dirt was the fraction remains of rib timbers you're talking about right here.
Right here.
Now it's hard to see today because it's been weather.
Now every winter's a storm.
But right here is where he uncovered the vertical member, the timbers that probably are the rib timbers.
So today, if we took Shaw wolves, then we begin to scrape off you.
These probably see the same thing.
We could still see those timbers right here under this Mud.
Those little pieces.
'cause they're exposed.
So they're fractured from all the winter storms.
That is amazing.
This was where it happened.
And actually, Andrew, if you keep looking down this side of the ship, you can see those protrusions through the top, which are probably those rib timbers.
And look in the distance, look at lesser air rat.
Wow.
The snow.
Greater air rat with the snow and the floodplains below.
This is just Remarkable.
We're the mountains of air rat.
And to think that as the waters begin to abate, eventually Noah and his family and all the animals, little by little begin moving further and further and further and further down the hill until finally they settled in the valley in a place which was from ancient times called the village of eight.
And we're gonna go there, but first we're gonna get an A tractor and we're gonna go to the top of the mountain.
I think this is hail actually though.
Yeah, the weather's changing again.
Now we're experiencing hail.
But let's go get in the tractor.
Sounds great.
Sasha.
Don't fall hold.
This will prove to you that there's nothing we won't do to bring you to these biblical sites.
We got in the tractor and it's hailing, which means we're not gonna make it to the landing site until the next episode because we can't go there in this freezing temperature and in all of this hail.
But you ought to see us.
We're covered with mud.
Our legs are covered.
And it's amazing because right now there's hail, but looking over there, it's beautiful sunshine on Mount Ara and lesser Ara.
And now we're on the tractor, all of us together, and we're gonna go back to the visitor center and wait for the hail to let up so we can continue.
We did it.
Alright guys, what'd you think about that?
That was an adventure.
What'd you think Zs?
Oh, that was great.
Joel.
Ride of a Lifetime.
Oh, always fun.
I've never taken a tractor ride in hail on arrow At mountains.
It was my first time.
I think we need some hot tea.
Let's go in.
Let's warm up and let's talk about our experience.
All right.
Oh, I'm so grateful we've come back to the visitor center.
Be careful guys.
It's a little slippery here.
Hey, look at this Denise.
First class service.
Oh, thank you so much.
Thank you so much.
Oh, let's come over here.
Let's take our seats.
Oh, all right.
Pull up a chair, all of us.
Okay, well I want to tell you, Denise and I have never taken any of our friends.
I'm gonna trip like we just gave you.
Well, and that's my first time to ever be in the hail.
In the hail.
You usually are inside when it's hailing.
Well, you weren't just in the hail, you were in a tractor in hail.
And I was, and I was using my umbrella to keep that camera from being destroyed.
And you guys, that little village that we were driving through Yeah.
Is a village that has been on the side of this mountain for thousands of years.
I'll talk about this in my book.
But I have one chapter called Ancient Voices about Noah's Ark.
And many of the ancient voices, recured recorded that there was a Kurdish village.
Wow.
And the Kurdish Village, these were the people who first found this site.
Okay.
After the first earthquake in 1948.
Of course people had seen it for thousands of years, but then it got covered with mud.
Okay.
The earthquake exposed it.
And we just drove through that thousands and thousands of year old Kurdish village and came back here because we're not gonna go to the landing place with all this hail.
Yes.
What do you guys think, Paul?
I think it's fun.
I'm enjoying it.
Great company.
And I'm glad that we can share it with people who've never seen it before.
And of course with everybody else.
What about You, Joel?
Honestly, this is my second time here, and this experience is totally different than the first time.
And it is absolutely wonderful.
I'm learning more things, new things, seeing different things, and of course we're glad to bring it to you.
What do you guys think about this?
I think it broadens your scope on biblical history.
It broadens your understanding of what's what's happening in the culture around us.
And I believe the Lord is always speaking.
And if you have ears to hear, you can be with people you enjoy being with, and you can really hear what he's saying.
And I just wanna also thank that the partners and friends of of Rener Ministries.
Oh, amen.
I really do.
Because you know, because of you and what you've done, you know this, this ministry can get messages like this all around the world.
So thank you so much.
You know, Heather and I are products of your partnership with Rick and Denise Rener, and we're just so grateful to you and it's wonderful to be here.
Heather, what do you think Of this Experience?
It's well from bursting into tears at first sight to thinking how will they hear without a preacher or a teacher.
And I'm just honored and privileged to be here, to be able to bring this, to be a part of the experience of you guys bringing this to the world.
It's just been amazing.
Well, Heather, thank you.
I have to tell you, your hair suffered a little bit in the Ha.
Yes, I I I think it suffered.
I got hail hair, I think.
I think it suffered much.
It was a sacrifice.
Oh, this is just, this is so much fun.
And doesn't this tea feel good?
It feels amazing.
So you feel my hands again?
When we tell viewers that we pay a price to go to these sites to film, are we telling the truth?
It's the truth.
It's the absolute truth.
I mean, today I fell in the mud, had to wash my hands off.
Yeah, we went down the hill, up the hill, down the hill, up the hill.
We finally got to the top of the hill and one of the film guys said, I need you to go back down the hill and walked back up the hill again to film.
I mean, this is really physical.
It's, and how'd you like that tractor ride that was about bouncing down First class.
First class, right?
Was a Turkish carpet in the bottom of it.
That's what I'm talking.
That was totally wet.
The hail was a bonus.
Yes.
Okay.
But let me tell you that we're gonna come back here and we're going to start the next episode right here.
Okay.
I really wanted us in this episode to go to the place of the landing.
We just can't do it in this hail.
Have you noticed how the weather just changes so fast up here very quickly.
Ly Goes Very quickly.
We're in the top of the mountains.
Yeah.
But this has been wonderful.
But tomorrow in the next episode, we're gonna get back in that tractor right here at the visitor center.
And we're gonna ride all the way to the top of the hill right near the border of Iran.
And we're gonna show you the place of the landing.
And you guys, there's a huge indentation.
That's where the arc originally sat.
And then from there, we're gonna go back down the hill in the tractor and climb up another hill to the sacrificial stone that was used by Noah and his family.
In Genesis chapter nine, Somebody has asked a fun question, were there actually monsters in the Old Testament?
Well, we know from the book of Genesis chapter six that there were Nephilim in the earth.
Nephilim were hybrid creatures that were born as a result of an angelic and mortal women union.
And the women became impregnated and they gave birth to giants, which were hybrids, and they were fallen creatures.
They were an aberration from what God designed.
But there were very ancient sources, which also tell us the giants then had sex with animals, and the animals gave birth to hybrid creatures that were not normal.
These were monsters that roamed the earth.
And so it indeed is very possible that there really were monsters that roamed the earth in the days before the flood.
And I write about all of this in my book, which is called Fallen Angels, giants, monsters, and the World Before the Flood.
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But right now we're in the process of paying off this facility in Tulsa.
And guess what?
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And that is just amazing.
If you consider how long we've been doing this, it's really not that long.
But because of the grace of God and because of people like you, we are really making significant progress.
And when we're finished paying off the debt on this building, it's gonna release all these finances to help us take the teaching of the Bible further to the ends of the earth.
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Well, how are you enjoying our documentary of the ruins of Noah's Ark?
Isn't it amazing?
You know, the Bible tells us in Genesis eight, four that the ark came to rest in the mountains of a rat.
It never says it landed on the peak of Mount a Ara, but in the mountains of Ara and the Ara mountain range is huge.
And on one of the lower mountains, which today is called Mount Judy, but it's a part of that range, really are the ruins of Noah's Ark.
And I took my team there to document it for you.
All of this is for you.
And by the way, it was very difficult to go there.
And what we did was very hard.
But I really wanted you to see this with your own eyes.
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It's 10 parts, which is called Discovery Noah's Arc, a full documentary about the ruins of the real Noah's Ark in the lower mountains of ette.
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You gotta be kidding.
Yeah.
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But until tomorrow, remember Ecclesiastes eight, for where the word of the king is, there is power.
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