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[SPEAKER_02]: This is the Elder Scrolls lorecast.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Adventures it is that time again for Elder Scrolls lore and we've been going through the creation stories and little bit about the deities that the different groups across Tamriel worship and how they think everything came into being and we've gone through the majority of the kind of the major ones some of the weird ones but now it's time to zoom in to a small little group [SPEAKER_02]: of some dangerous people who live out in the, well, some of the most dangerous parts of Tamriel up in the cold parts of Skyrim where nobody else wants to live because life is hard up there and because life is hard, they've got kind of a different perspective on everything.

[SPEAKER_02]: That's right.

[SPEAKER_02]: It's a pretty hard view on life.

[SPEAKER_02]: a hard view on life.

[SPEAKER_02]: That's right.

[SPEAKER_02]: We're talking about the REACHMAN and what the REACHMAN worship or who they worship and the sources of information for that.

[SPEAKER_02]: And so, Lotus is back with me.

[SPEAKER_02]: I'm Tom, of course.

[SPEAKER_02]: And Lotus, are you excited about talk about the gods of the REACH folk?

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I think this one's going to be kind of interesting because we were kind of talking beforehand about like, oh, you know, is there any that are worth kind of discussing before closing up?

[SPEAKER_05]: Because as you'll notice, we haven't talked about every single race because [SPEAKER_05]: Well, the beneficiaries are similar.

[SPEAKER_05]: Similar enough that they don't each deserve their own episode.

[SPEAKER_05]: Like, I feel like that would kind of just be like, okay, well, we're discussing mostly the same stuff in a lot of aspects with like one or two differences here there.

[SPEAKER_05]: Same with a lot of the, you know, you get the merge races to similar situation.

[SPEAKER_05]: We're not going to go and just like, hey, we're going to do every race just because it checks them all off.

[SPEAKER_05]: We're going for ones that have enough of a difference and we feel we can make a, you know, a decent discussion out of.

[SPEAKER_05]: This is ironically another managed race, but one that I feel not as common and also kind of been delved into more recently.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: Well, not quite as long standing as some of the other ones.

[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: Skyrim and then Expans expansion stuff from ESO.

[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[SPEAKER_02]: I've given us a more ironically.

[SPEAKER_05]: very, very established and older race, just less disgusting game.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and more of like a tribal group, less of a race, more of a tribal group for sure.

[SPEAKER_02]: Probably the same way that like the timer were considered to be Altmer that left the rest of the Altmer and then kind of established their own groups, so they weren't really their own race until things changed and then of course they become the Dunmer and then the [SPEAKER_02]: As time went on, they became more and more of a distinct race than they actually were at first.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_05]: Also, it seemed like it was different enough that we should definitely cover this one next.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yes, absolutely.

[SPEAKER_02]: And also, unique enough.

[SPEAKER_02]: Speaking of the Dunmore, worshiping Dejra.

[SPEAKER_02]: This is one of those things we get these spin-off groups.

[SPEAKER_02]: This is a spin-off group of like Needs and Ordnords who have turned into Reach, Reachman, ReachFulk over time.

[SPEAKER_02]: And you can talk about like the aliens or the chimer or the dwemmer or some of these off-shoot elf groups as being these groups that moved away over time.

[SPEAKER_02]: And in the case with the [SPEAKER_02]: the the the timer and the I was gonna say dilemma, but not the dilemma the aliens that's who they end up worshiping daydric princes rather than adria and that it comes a thing right like that's something that they're very known for it's something that totally guides and sometimes is the doom of their culture when it talks talk about the aliens but the rich men are kind of similar in that they're not all about the adria like everyone else they'd rather worship the daydric princes [SPEAKER_05]: Exactly.

[SPEAKER_05]: And in this series, I mean, oftentimes you'll see, Deja are kind of related to being like demons or evil or whatever.

[SPEAKER_05]: But that's, as with everything in this series, that's not really exactly black and white like that.

[SPEAKER_05]: So, again, there are incentives for, you know, whether they're selfish or not.

[SPEAKER_05]: There's incentives for races and groups to actually align with Deja and- Or at least they believe there are.

[SPEAKER_02]: Or maybe there are temporary short-term long-term problems.

[SPEAKER_05]: It could also argue the same thing with hatred when you really look at it.

[SPEAKER_02]: True.

[SPEAKER_02]: I'll rule over response, you get some time.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's not all cut and dry.

[SPEAKER_02]: And in order to dig into the Richmond, we have found a series of books that were added to Elder Scrolls in the Elder Scrolls online when they expanded into Markarth.

[SPEAKER_02]: This is from what is that seven years ago at this point?

[SPEAKER_02]: Has it been seven years?

[SPEAKER_02]: Seven years ago, I think.

[SPEAKER_02]: I'm pretty sure you can double check that.

[SPEAKER_02]: No, five years.

[SPEAKER_02]: Five years.

[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, because it was right.

[SPEAKER_05]: It was like, like, twenty twenty.

[SPEAKER_05]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_05]: So.

[SPEAKER_05]: So yeah, we're a little bit of five.

[SPEAKER_05]: So we're five years in from this one.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and so as we've been going through these other different documents and things from in the game and just to give people a refresher or if you're new here, welcome.

[SPEAKER_02]: We are going back to these source books from the games and seeing what they say and understanding from the books, what to take from it.

[SPEAKER_02]: We're not reading through and projecting our own interpretations onto just the games in general.

[SPEAKER_02]: We're actually pulling sources here.

[SPEAKER_02]: And one of the things to do when you pull a source is to understand both who wrote the source [SPEAKER_02]: But also, from a meta perspective, who wrote the source, right?

[SPEAKER_02]: So, in our world, because it's a video game, surprise, sorry, spoilers, this, these documents, this is called the Great Spirits of the Reach volumes, one through five.

[SPEAKER_02]: And these were written by Lehman Tuttle and Andrew Young.

[SPEAKER_02]: These are two people who have worked on the series for a while.

[SPEAKER_02]: Lehman Tuttle used to be the lore master of ESO.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: And say, saw a lot of fun chatting with him when we were in Vegas that year, actually.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, yes, and very much has a philosophy background.

[SPEAKER_02]: There's some of the things he writes come across to me like like a philosophical treatise, that kind of thing.

[SPEAKER_02]: And he gets into the nitty-gritty in different ways that different writers did.

[SPEAKER_02]: He's not as out there, somebody like Kirk Bride.

[SPEAKER_02]: He feels more like somebody who has kind of a very strong sense of who these groups are and wants to flesh that out for each of us by either, you know.

[SPEAKER_02]: the events of ESO or the documents that you write in the games and those kinds of things.

[SPEAKER_02]: In World, this is written by Vasu Gramorga, chief day-drith theologist, day-drith theologist.

[SPEAKER_02]: That's such a good title.

[SPEAKER_02]: Can I be a day-drith theologist?

[SPEAKER_02]: I just like that word.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so day-drow theologist, the theology of day-drow, right?

[SPEAKER_02]: Like, you guys know what that means.

[SPEAKER_02]: At the University of Guilham, discourse on ageic faiths in Tamriel.

[SPEAKER_02]: This is the first volume.

[SPEAKER_02]: There's five.

[SPEAKER_02]: This is fairly long.

[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm going to read through each of these, and like we do in the past, we'll pick these apart.

[SPEAKER_02]: I'll probably read through bigger chunks before I take pauses just to make sure that they're all.

[SPEAKER_05]: This definitely for sure is there's a lot to cover here, but as we discussed before they show started, it's I think better to keep it condensed to one episode if we can.

[SPEAKER_02]: Right, so here, let's get right into it in order to get through all of this because there's five volumes.

[SPEAKER_02]: The first two are the longest, the last three a little bit shorter.

[SPEAKER_02]: But here, it says most residents of Tamriel profess some variety of faith in a world be set by danger, both conventional and cosmic, rejecting deities out of hand as a failing proposition.

[SPEAKER_02]: right from the start he's like these things are real there alive and so people have to it's very hard for people to be atheist in a world where like God like beings reach down into reality on a regular basis right right I also like the fact that in this series oftentimes you have like you know it's it's hard a lot of stuff is done on faith in our world whereas in this it's like well yeah you can have faith but it's like also these these beings just show up from time to time and right [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you don't need to hold out a faith when one can just portal into your living room and tell you, I need you to do this mortal.

[SPEAKER_02]: I guess you're real.

[SPEAKER_02]: Let's invade you.

[SPEAKER_02]: Let's keep going.

[SPEAKER_02]: Unfortunately, this shared desire for religious identity rarely brings people together.

[SPEAKER_02]: Instead, it commonly drives us apart.

[SPEAKER_02]: Many of the fault lines are predictable.

[SPEAKER_02]: Racial politics, historical enmities, [SPEAKER_02]: The claims of divine sanction routinely undercut an attempt at a good faith dialogue, but one central rift underpins all of it.

[SPEAKER_02]: The perceived supremacy of the adra.

[SPEAKER_02]: This is basically him saying, like we did at the intro, most of the major groups worship the adra, maybe not all of them, but groups of them in different combinations.

[SPEAKER_02]: And the adra generally make up the majority of the god-like beings that they worship.

[SPEAKER_02]: Even if you are, say, the kajit and every, you know, you kind of bring in some adra princes.

[SPEAKER_02]: for the most part, it's mostly Adra.

[SPEAKER_02]: So it goes on and says, do you want anything you want to add there?

[SPEAKER_02]: No, no, for sure.

[SPEAKER_05]: It's just, you know, that again, you'll often see a little bit of a mix, but more often than not, you're wanting to deal with, it's less problematic to deal with Adra than it is with Adra.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, yes.

[SPEAKER_02]: All right.

[SPEAKER_02]: So it goes on.

[SPEAKER_02]: It says, an old Orkish proverb reads, conquerors name the wars, an apt description of how those empower shape our understanding of history.

[SPEAKER_02]: But this proverb is doubly true when it comes to matters of faith.

[SPEAKER_02]: Conquerors do more than name wars.

[SPEAKER_02]: They shape beliefs.

[SPEAKER_02]: If we accept the premise that those who hold the white gold tower, hold Tamriel in some fundamental sense, the primacy of Adra makes perfect sense.

[SPEAKER_02]: not because they are in fact superior, but because those in a position of supremacy insist that they are.

[SPEAKER_02]: This is a reference to in the later eras, the empire, the manish empire, holding the white gold tower, defining for the majority of the rest of the continent what they should worship and why.

[SPEAKER_02]: But in the past, that was aliens, in the past, the aliens were an Altmer off-shoot.

[SPEAKER_02]: The white gold tower is right in the center of Sierra Dill.

[SPEAKER_02]: And it is the important building.

[SPEAKER_02]: It defines everything that's happening on the cotton across all of these different cultures.

[SPEAKER_05]: Right, and just like in real life, the victor is the one who has to write the record books to keep history.

[SPEAKER_05]: So, you know, that's, that's a very strong parallel to real life.

[SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely.

[SPEAKER_02]: With a few notable exceptions, the story of Serodil, and thus Tamriel Rit Large, have been shaped [SPEAKER_02]: by those professing aedric faiths.

[SPEAKER_02]: It began with the Aldmer, and passed to the alias, and while the wild elves, meaning the alias, flirted with aedra worship for a time, they paid a high price for it at the hands of the lesions.

[SPEAKER_02]: This is the lesion rebellion that happened in the kind of began the first era after the marithic period.

[SPEAKER_02]: From that point forward, the Ajar enjoyed special status in the realm of Tamrielic faith, a status that by definition diminished the standing of those races who cleaved to non-Ajaric practice.

[SPEAKER_02]: Most of these races already suffered scorn and abuse at the hands of men and elves.

[SPEAKER_02]: This would include Orcs, Argonians, and Kajit, while others were regarded with cruel suspicion for their elven kin, or by their elven kin, the chimer and later the Dunmore, all these people suffered and still suffer, the privileged award to Adro worshipers.

[SPEAKER_02]: So, the privileged awarded to Adro worshipers, and then one less ends, but no race has suffered more abuse on the basis of their faith than the people of the reach.

[SPEAKER_02]: Now, this is getting to the real point here.

[SPEAKER_02]: This is about the reachmen, but like I stated at the beginning, it's drawing these parallels.

[SPEAKER_02]: You have the majority of the men and elves who believe in Adra, but the offshoots don't.

[SPEAKER_02]: Orcs, Argonians, Cajit, or at least some of those believe in Daedric princes, more than Adra, or their mixed in with their pantheons, or they've got histatries, which are completely different.

[SPEAKER_02]: Totally different.

[SPEAKER_02]: And then the chimer in the Dunmer, similarly worshiping Adra.

[SPEAKER_02]: And then eventually the tribunal, but still not, still not adria, adria, adria, that I say, adria, I'm a adria princess.

[SPEAKER_02]: But then now we're getting to the reads, right?

[SPEAKER_02]: Adria princess?

[SPEAKER_02]: Adria princess.

[SPEAKER_02]: Why don't we call the adria adria princess, which is called adria princess?

[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.

[SPEAKER_02]: While it's scorned and repeatedly invaded by foreign aggressors, the reachful have managed to retain a rich, digital worship and culture that shows no signs of dilution or retreat.

[SPEAKER_02]: It is my sincerest hope that this treatise will shed new light on this under-appreciated faith and inspire a greater respect for the proud and hearty people of the reach.

[SPEAKER_02]: Now we have to remember.

[SPEAKER_02]: This was a document that was added to Elder Scrolls Online.

[SPEAKER_02]: This does not mean that this is a perspective from the fourth [SPEAKER_02]: era of the world, the time of Skyrim.

[SPEAKER_02]: This is where discussing second era currently.

[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[SPEAKER_02]: This is second era.

[SPEAKER_02]: This is during that time period where HECK, they had taken over the throne at one point in the history.

[SPEAKER_02]: Like these are the kinds of things that are happening with the reach folk.

[SPEAKER_02]: And I have a feeling that the version of the reach folk that we get in Skyrim are kind of just [SPEAKER_02]: The people who have survived long enough to still be in Skyrim by the fourth era.

[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, that's a decent amount of time this past in between these, between this documentation and what we're dealing with in the Oceanals Five.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: So let's move on to volume two.

[SPEAKER_02]: This is where it starts to get good.

[SPEAKER_02]: The reach folk worship many spirits, both great and small.

[SPEAKER_02]: In truth, there are as many faiths as there are clans in the reach.

[SPEAKER_02]: Some clans might worship a sacred elk or the spirit of a mountain spring.

[SPEAKER_02]: Others might sacrifice goats to ghosts of ancient heroes.

[SPEAKER_02]: There are some spirits, however, that transcend clan boundaries.

[SPEAKER_02]: Those, we in the west of Tamriel recognize as the Dageric Princes.

[SPEAKER_02]: So this is something to note here.

[SPEAKER_02]: First of all, the different reach men groups are not unified.

[SPEAKER_02]: They are, the lots of tribes, some of the more of our state and other tribalistic.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but there is not a unified, defined religion.

[SPEAKER_02]: That means that many of them can worship whatever they want.

[SPEAKER_02]: If they want to worship the ghost of an ancient hero, they can do that.

[SPEAKER_02]: If they have some special spring that seems to heal them and revive them, then maybe there's a spirit in the spring, and they worship the spirit in the spring.

[SPEAKER_02]: But what seems to be common across almost all of them is the worship of daydrick princes.

[SPEAKER_02]: So, any thoughts on that one, notice?

[SPEAKER_02]: I was just, say, including our very own friend of the show here, [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, there you go.

[SPEAKER_02]: There you go.

[SPEAKER_02]: Is Harrison here?

[SPEAKER_02]: Did he make the livestream?

[SPEAKER_02]: We're doing a little bit later tonight.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it's up of our usual life schedule, but don't think so, but be remiss to not shout out to your scene.

[SPEAKER_05]: But yeah, no, it's just, again, it's interesting because this isn't one unified document in a way that you would see with some of these others that kind of almost want to have an empire where it's like, no, well, it's us first them.

[SPEAKER_05]: This is just kind of like, yep, this is all of us.

[SPEAKER_05]: And, you know, [SPEAKER_05]: Sort of like leave us alone in some aspects.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, they're very very tribal and they're very about this is what we believe and none of your business This is what we want this is what we believe.

[SPEAKER_02]: Leave us alone.

[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't even align with each other.

[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely.

[SPEAKER_02]: Also, we have to remember that this document is by Vasu Gramorga.

[SPEAKER_02]: That's an orc name.

[SPEAKER_02]: This is probably not a richman.

[SPEAKER_02]: This is somebody who works in the university who studies [SPEAKER_02]: Dajra, right, by connection, the reach folk and their different beliefs and different tribes.

[SPEAKER_02]: So this comes from an outside perspective trying to understand what it is they're doing and put it into academic terms, which is nothing that any of the reach folk would ever do on their own.

[SPEAKER_05]: Exactly, and we've kind of encountered this already, where it's, uh, sometimes, you know, you get some of the influence of the writer explaining the situation, which might not necessarily be the intent of what should be done if you're trying to do it truly objectively.

[SPEAKER_05]: Right.

[SPEAKER_05]: Right.

[SPEAKER_02]: The writer meaning in universe.

[SPEAKER_02]: The universe writer.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, there's a weird, the fourth wall breaking of the series.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, right.

[SPEAKER_02]: All right, let's keep going.

[SPEAKER_02]: Chief Among the Reach Pantheon is here scene, Prince of the Hunt, names vary from clan to clan, old elk eye, hunt king, beast father, skin shaper, and the spear with five points.

[SPEAKER_02]: Now, the spear with five points is a reference to the spear of bitter mercy, her scene's weapon, which originally was Mairun's daygons, but then he kind of gets taken over.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, kind of gets taken over.

[SPEAKER_05]: I kind of get tried to round a bit.

[SPEAKER_05]: I if you check out the daydry card effects episode, we go and know all of these weird weird artifacts.

[SPEAKER_02]: Right, right.

[SPEAKER_02]: But that's the spear of five points is a reference to hair scene specifically, but also shows that they know what that is.

[SPEAKER_02]: They've probably been blessed with that before in skin changing obviously they know what that is.

[SPEAKER_02]: So it'll get more into that in a little bit.

[SPEAKER_02]: Like all reach gods, hair scene is regarded as a cruel teacher and I keep that in my cruel teacher.

[SPEAKER_02]: Indeed, reach folk do not call their articles of faith [SPEAKER_02]: beliefs, they call them lessons.

[SPEAKER_02]: But those who heed her scenes lessons grow swift, strong and cunning.

[SPEAKER_02]: For a reach hunter, these physical manifestations of faith are far more important than any of the nebulous ethical concerns debated in the temples of the devines.

[SPEAKER_02]: So this gives us our first real glimpse into why they worship the daydric princes, and it's because they teach them lessons, the hardships make them harder, make them stronger, allow them to survive in dangerous places where they have to live.

[SPEAKER_02]: This is what their life is about.

[SPEAKER_02]: Go ahead.

[SPEAKER_02]: I was just saying this is what their life is about.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, exactly.

[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, like, when you need to justify why your life is so hard, you try to sometimes give it meaning.

[SPEAKER_05]: And this is a situation that you actually see a lot with the Dunmer, too, or it's just like, man, life is hard.

[SPEAKER_05]: You know what?

[SPEAKER_05]: This is probably testing us because life can't just be miserable all the time for us without a reason.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and it creates kind of a light at the end of the tunnel.

[SPEAKER_02]: We know things are hard.

[SPEAKER_02]: We know the gods have made life hard.

[SPEAKER_02]: But if we can surmount these things and there's something on the other side, they were given some sort of reward.

[SPEAKER_02]: Even if that reward is simply being stronger and harder and able to face the difficulties of life, that's enough.

[SPEAKER_02]: That keeps you alive.

[SPEAKER_02]: That isn't a reward.

[SPEAKER_02]: That is a reward.

[SPEAKER_02]: That is a reward.

[SPEAKER_02]: That is a reward.

[SPEAKER_02]: That is a lesson, right?

[SPEAKER_02]: Her scene is the avatar of the fear-sinterifying, and this is in quotes, now.

[SPEAKER_02]: He tells us followers that life is lived breath by breath, and all creatures are predator prey, or both.

[SPEAKER_02]: This engenders a sense of urgency and constant weariness that often leads to conflict, but also keeps reach folk safe.

[SPEAKER_02]: In the hearts of her scene worshipper, there is no rest, and no expectation of rest.

[SPEAKER_02]: This gives me the sense that they're constantly living in the moment because that is what is most important.

[SPEAKER_05]: Well, yeah, if you're living breath to breath, you're not thinking about things of long run, which is ironically, again, it's kind of just interesting to see parallels from one culture to another, which is very similar to Argonia.

[SPEAKER_05]: It's not really caring about their history and longevity.

[SPEAKER_05]: It's just kind of like, yeah, it is what it is when stuff breaks down.

[SPEAKER_05]: It's just gone forever.

[SPEAKER_05]: This is very much like, look, just do what you got to do to stay alive.

[SPEAKER_05]: You don't need to worry about that other stuff right now.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and this is another one of those parallels to the real world, people who live in more dangerous or poorer environments tend to be focused more on the here and now.

[SPEAKER_02]: What they can do now?

[SPEAKER_02]: What can I get now?

[SPEAKER_02]: How can I enjoy my life now?

[SPEAKER_02]: If I get money, what do I spend it on now?

[SPEAKER_02]: Because it may not last.

[SPEAKER_02]: Everything becomes very short-term focused.

[SPEAKER_02]: And yes, like the states, sometimes that creates problems in the long-term, that can create conflicts and things that [SPEAKER_02]: make things harder, but in the short term, that's what really matters because there's no guarantee that you will wake up tomorrow.

[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[SPEAKER_02]: So you're just running around yoloing everything.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, just yolo everything, which makes sense for why they would worship the danger, because the danger show up.

[SPEAKER_02]: The danger rarely respond to any prayers.

[SPEAKER_02]: They're very quiet.

[SPEAKER_02]: They don't seem to react.

[SPEAKER_02]: And even if maybe worshiping them in the long term has better benefits, [SPEAKER_02]: there's no proof the daydream are here now exactly it might be better to just like hey maybe we should work with them just because we won't get murdered [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: All right.

[SPEAKER_02]: For the uninitiated, such as faith, such a faith sounds exhausting, but the fruits it bears are difficult to dismiss.

[SPEAKER_02]: Reach folk maintain a level of focus and athleticism that few races can match.

[SPEAKER_02]: While brief stillness waits at the end of the hunt, there is always another hunt on the horizon.

[SPEAKER_02]: So this is talking about how there's no rest, but there's brief stillness at the end of the hunt.

[SPEAKER_02]: But [SPEAKER_02]: Here's seen doesn't give you too long to rest before.

[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, now there's another hunt.

[SPEAKER_02]: You got to get out there.

[SPEAKER_02]: You got to keep going.

[SPEAKER_02]: And so is life living in the reach where things are cold.

[SPEAKER_02]: The rocks are harsh.

[SPEAKER_02]: Food is limited.

[SPEAKER_02]: Shelter is difficult.

[SPEAKER_02]: All of these things lead to very little rest where you constantly have to keep going in order to stay alive.

[SPEAKER_02]: So, sounds exhausting.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: The final paragraph on volume two is this.

[SPEAKER_02]: Reach folk also welcome her scenes, truest servants into their midst as protectors and guides.

[SPEAKER_02]: This is the part I was saying was coming.

[SPEAKER_02]: I speak, of course, of wear wolves.

[SPEAKER_02]: Few reach folk describe a like-hand therapy as a blessing, but they accept it as a useful condition.

[SPEAKER_02]: The wear wolf suffers on behalf of her clan and causes enemies to suffer in turn.

[SPEAKER_02]: So among the rich folk, if you are aware of it, people find out.

[SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't mean you get shunned from the tribe, but you don't get kicked out.

[SPEAKER_02]: If anything, they go, oh, good.

[SPEAKER_02]: Now we have a better weapon to combat her enemies with.

[SPEAKER_02]: Right, it's like, well, again, one of those things you become, sounds super mean, but it's not that you become a tool to that tribe.

[SPEAKER_05]: There's such a tool.

[SPEAKER_05]: There's such a tool.

[SPEAKER_05]: There's such a tool.

[SPEAKER_05]: There's such a tool.

[SPEAKER_05]: There's such a tool.

[SPEAKER_05]: There's such a tool.

[SPEAKER_05]: There's such a tool.

[SPEAKER_05]: There's such a tool.

[SPEAKER_05]: There's such a tool.

[SPEAKER_05]: There's such a tool.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's such a [SPEAKER_02]: Everyone's got somebody's gonna write us on this one reaching our tools.

[SPEAKER_05]: So I like three There are some people who are like them, and they can be very useful tools in this situation.

[SPEAKER_05]: Hey, I'm almost always a werewolf in game or a werewolf or a werewolf or something.

[SPEAKER_02]: They're we're dolphin.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we're we're sharks.

[SPEAKER_02]: We're sharks show up in the lore, right?

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, we're all we're crocodiles.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but where shark sounds truly god awful [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: I guess if you were like a maomer and you were a wear shark that could that could work out.

[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_05]: All right.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: Slowed.

[SPEAKER_02]: A slowed wear shark would be the fattest slowest shark in the ocean.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, all right.

[SPEAKER_02]: What was this move past now?

[SPEAKER_02]: I bet there's art somewhere on the internet of a where slowed, like a where shark's load.

[SPEAKER_02]: I hope there isn't.

[SPEAKER_02]: If you, if you know of some send it to Lotus.

[SPEAKER_02]: No, Lotus on discord.

[SPEAKER_02]: You're like, no, don't do it.

[SPEAKER_02]: I bet somebody can just create one for you if you need to.

[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, well, just leave that word.

[SPEAKER_02]: Let's move on to volume three.

[SPEAKER_02]: This is going to get into other data prints.

[SPEAKER_02]: Her scene is at the top.

[SPEAKER_02]: That's clearly the one they worship the most.

[SPEAKER_02]: It's the one that we're especially in Skyrim when we're running around and you see like the heads and the antlers of like deer and things like that.

[SPEAKER_02]: They even, it's kind of they even dressed like honor here scene.

[SPEAKER_02]: It's not even subtle.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's not subtle at all.

[SPEAKER_02]: All of those are religious ornamentation for their, for their God.

[SPEAKER_02]: All right, volume three, reach folk, recognize only two words, worlds, no words, worlds.

[SPEAKER_02]: The world of flesh and the world of spirit.

[SPEAKER_02]: Well, here's seen Rains Supreme in the world of flesh, Namira, the spirit queen, rules over the infinite realm of spirit.

[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so we have the world of flesh, [SPEAKER_02]: run by, according to them, ruled over by the Lord of the Hunt, which is why life is so difficult, and hunting is so important.

[SPEAKER_02]: But then there's that dualism, there's the spirit, and the spirit world is completely controlled by the daydruck prince who is the closest to the void, and may actually be even part of the void who knows.

[SPEAKER_02]: We've talked about, we've speculated about this in other episodes, go check those out.

[SPEAKER_02]: This is creepy stuff.

[SPEAKER_02]: because this is the spirit world, right?

[SPEAKER_02]: Like this is this thing that's kind of underlying reality, and it's run by Nemira, right, which is an unsettling person to have running your spirit realm.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, yeah, talk about creepy nightmare fuel types of stuff.

[SPEAKER_02]: Here, it keeps going.

[SPEAKER_02]: Even among dangerous worshippers, Nemira is usually regarded with fear and suspicion.

[SPEAKER_02]: That's what you basically just said.

[SPEAKER_02]: What are the odds?

[SPEAKER_02]: What are the odds?

[SPEAKER_02]: Her traditional sphere of influence inspires instant revulsion in mortals, chilling mysteries and the inevitable inevitability of decay lie at the very heart of most mortal fears.

[SPEAKER_02]: But in the reach, her dominion extends far beyond mere slugs and darkness.

[SPEAKER_02]: It's the inclusion of slugs there.

[SPEAKER_02]: I wonder if that is a slowed kind of reference.

[SPEAKER_02]: Because I feel like the slowed worship in a mirror.

[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like that totally tracks, right?

[SPEAKER_02]: That's I was going to say that they seem like they would at least get along at bare minimum.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, it's all creepy weird stuff.

[SPEAKER_02]: So sure.

[SPEAKER_02]: A rich folk cinema as the avatar of all primal dualisms, life and death, beginnings and endings, possibility and entropy.

[SPEAKER_02]: All fundamentally competing forces that flow from her realm of spirit.

[SPEAKER_02]: While most religions strive for some sense of harmony, reach theology is inextricably linked with conflicts like these.

[SPEAKER_02]: This obsession with conflict as an essential force of existence, no doubt plays a role in their belligerent attitude toward outsiders, [SPEAKER_02]: and each other.

[SPEAKER_02]: This reminds me, Lotus, of some of the stuff Vivek would talk about about how like violence is necessary if you are looking to, in our peace, like, yes, or achieve chim, or mantle, like the concept of violence is inherent to the natural world.

[SPEAKER_02]: And violence is conflict, and so that the natural sense that this duality is in conflict with itself is somehow actually [SPEAKER_02]: Like a common theme among different groups is not super common, but it's something that comes up.

[SPEAKER_02]: It's not a surprise.

[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[SPEAKER_02]: And it's almost integral to life itself.

[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

[SPEAKER_02]: Which would make sense for the reach folk because they live such hard lives.

[SPEAKER_02]: So it's just natural for them to see that as a thing that's not a contradiction.

[SPEAKER_02]: It's just how life is.

[SPEAKER_02]: At the end of this, it says paradoxically, most reachful could do find some measure of peace in numerous teachings, clan which is often described in a mirror as one who gives and takes, giving life and taking life until the spirit finds deep wisdom.

[SPEAKER_02]: That has kind of that sense of overcoming difficulty.

[SPEAKER_02]: Things give life, things take life.

[SPEAKER_02]: That's just the way the world is, but in that struggle and in that sadness and [SPEAKER_02]: You can develop wisdom.

[SPEAKER_02]: It actually makes you wiser.

[SPEAKER_02]: The same way that hair scene would make you stronger through physical difficulties.

[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[SPEAKER_02]: So that's volume three.

[SPEAKER_02]: Volume four extends this into some of the other daydric princes.

[SPEAKER_02]: Now, who would you expect to be in this list?

[SPEAKER_02]: Let us are there certain ones that you're like, oh, I think they'd probably worship this one or that one or [SPEAKER_05]: I mean the higher seeing tie-in is pretty obvious, but like there's a lot of situations related to this where it's like some of the day Duke Princes you can definitely see clicking more than others.

[SPEAKER_05]: So that's that's just it.

[SPEAKER_05]: Like I don't think as much as I I love me some Hermès Mora hasn't really fit as well in a lot of ways.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah and and yet [SPEAKER_02]: If I had mentioned Nemira before you read the Nemira section, you probably would have been like, wait, the worship in the mirror.

[SPEAKER_02]: Why would that make sense for the reach folk?

[SPEAKER_02]: How it does.

[SPEAKER_02]: Just like periite, which again feels like, okay, pestulence and disease, like how does that make sense?

[SPEAKER_02]: Why would you worship that?

[SPEAKER_02]: But here, let's, let's get into it.

[SPEAKER_02]: Reach for a place great emphasis on natural rhythms and the pitiless march of time.

[SPEAKER_02]: And that's going.

[SPEAKER_05]: And it is so interesting because it's an underplayed aspect of periite.

[SPEAKER_05]: Um, is periites the task master.

[SPEAKER_05]: It's not just, oh, by the way, here's the sniffles.

[SPEAKER_05]: So by the way, make sure to get your calendar set for the next seven years.

[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[SPEAKER_02]: And there's some really cool, I won't spoil it.

[SPEAKER_02]: We'll get to it.

[SPEAKER_02]: There's some really cool stuff in here that makes you go, oh, maybe that's why Perry is a dragon in iconography and things like that.

[SPEAKER_02]: So here, we'll get into it.

[SPEAKER_02]: Everything that exists will pass.

[SPEAKER_02]: The fourth that rises to high will fall.

[SPEAKER_02]: The clan that stars will one day grow strong.

[SPEAKER_02]: This eternal balance is the work of pariet.

[SPEAKER_02]: Things naturally change.

[SPEAKER_02]: Things naturally grow.

[SPEAKER_02]: Things naturally decay.

[SPEAKER_02]: Pariet is involved with all of that, according to them.

[SPEAKER_02]: This is the work of pariette, the master of tasks and lord of order.

[SPEAKER_02]: This is the way they see it.

[SPEAKER_02]: In many ways, pariette serves as a vital foil to the primacy of conflict.

[SPEAKER_02]: Let me read that again.

[SPEAKER_02]: In many ways, pariette serves as a vital foil to the primacy of conflict, because the things that pariette seems to do work in rhythms and patterns.

[SPEAKER_02]: They're not broken apart in conflicted in any way.

[SPEAKER_02]: They're just the natural rhythms of the way existence works.

[SPEAKER_02]: While wars and plagues may inflict grievous wounds, the taskmaster ensures that the world always returns to its natural and intended state.

[SPEAKER_02]: Now, notice, this gives me that perspective of even when worshiping somebody as terrifying as Namira or as unpredictable as her scene.

[SPEAKER_02]: Pariyat is the thing that brings this all together and makes it feel like it's part of this natural cycle, which kind of like a grander plan.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, kind of solves the conflict in the division and the contradictions because those very things when you zoom out become part of a greater pattern and they start to make sense.

[SPEAKER_02]: Kind of my sense of it, I guess.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, no for sure.

[SPEAKER_05]: And the other thing that I do kind of find interesting because you can tie in both aspects of periate with the situation.

[SPEAKER_05]: You've got the whole taskmaster thing which I feel is much more relevant, but it is funny because when they were talking about, you know, [SPEAKER_05]: what basically just because you're on top now doesn't mean you're going to always be on top and what's the number one way to crumble an empire you have like a massive disease outbreak and it's like okay and rips like that that's the end of that and I mean we can't have a lot of it comes in and like exactly so um...

stuff like that is very interesting because both aspects tie into kind of forcibly maintaining that rhythm [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, yes.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you can't fight a disease with an army.

[SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't work.

[SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't work.

[SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't work.

[SPEAKER_02]: It's going to say no matter how well equipped you are.

[SPEAKER_02]: If you all get the plague, that's not great.

[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, no, they're going to invade our land.

[SPEAKER_02]: Well, mount a response and let's defend our land.

[SPEAKER_02]: But when it's a disease, that's not how that works.

[SPEAKER_02]: Here, let's keep going.

[SPEAKER_02]: As is the case with most cultures, reach folk associate pariet with blights and disease.

[SPEAKER_02]: But unlike other people, reach folk see no malevolence in illness, quite the contrary.

[SPEAKER_02]: Lives extinguished by disease make room for healthier, more vibrant, reach folk to take their place.

[SPEAKER_02]: Like wildfires, this is the first thing that comes to mind when I was reading this.

[SPEAKER_02]: Like wildfires, diseases serve as a revitalizing force of nature and necessary check on the hazards of abundance.

[SPEAKER_02]: It's the wildfires that keep the forest from overgrowing, and then it's the ash from the fires that fertilize the ground, which allow new trees to grow.

[SPEAKER_02]: In their minds, periodists just like that, beings grow, but beings all have to die and decay.

[SPEAKER_02]: They all disease is what keeps the population in check, which allows for more people to be born and to grow and to move on.

[SPEAKER_05]: And funny enough, that's the thing I think of just like, you know, if you're burning forest down, that's very, you know, tie into the other day to princess all kind of loop into each other, that is such a dig on thing, where it's just like, look, you can't have something grow fresh if you don't blow up the old thing.

[SPEAKER_02]: That's true.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's very similar to Maveran's Dig on.

[SPEAKER_02]: And some of the assumption about his or not assumption, but some of the evidence for why he's important as being the thing that ends the kelp.

[SPEAKER_02]: The thing that ends the current existence of the world and usher's in the next.

[SPEAKER_02]: All right, the final final paragraph on volume four, it says, I should note that Perryites role in reach society mimics that.

[SPEAKER_02]: And this is where it gets really cool.

[SPEAKER_02]: That of Akatosh in Adryk Faiths in many crucial ways.

[SPEAKER_02]: Let me say that again.

[SPEAKER_02]: Pariyites roll in Reach Society, mimics Akatosh.

[SPEAKER_02]: The Dragon God of Time.

[SPEAKER_02]: What?

[SPEAKER_02]: How does that work?

[SPEAKER_02]: We'll check this out.

[SPEAKER_02]: Associations with time, rigid natural order, draconic imagery, and so on lead me to believe that some cultural cross pollination may have occurred during the early interactions of man and man in North Western Tamriel, a heretical but fascinating thought.

[SPEAKER_02]: So this does a few things.

[SPEAKER_02]: Before we get to the details about what's similar between Akatash and Periate, let's talk about the fact that this is a document in more in-world document that shows that characters in this world understand that there can be cross-pollination of ideas and beliefs and the way that they interpret who their godlike beings are.

[SPEAKER_02]: period.

[SPEAKER_02]: So when we see, yeah, it's really neat because when we see similarities between the way the cajit view these and the way that the imperials or the, or the, the mirror view these different beings and we see similarities and connections and then some parts are different and some parts are the same.

[SPEAKER_02]: That can all be explained by cross pollination.

[SPEAKER_02]: Over time, they mixed ideas and they blended ideas.

[SPEAKER_02]: This is another real thing that happens in the real world.

[SPEAKER_02]: Go back and study ancient Greece and ancient Egypt and the Babylonian gods and these things.

[SPEAKER_02]: There is cross pollination between all of those groups because they were trading with each other.

[SPEAKER_02]: And that is, we'd inform the way that they would view their own gods.

[SPEAKER_02]: And that was just the way it was.

[SPEAKER_02]: And if you go back to an earlier time, you see different beliefs and a little bit closer to the current [SPEAKER_02]: Period and one they were still being worshipped and you see variations and the way that their perspectives on their own God's changed because they're like oh our God's a lot like their God and their God does this so now our God does that too a lot of that stuff works that way So do you notice do you see the the connection here between Akatash and Perry?

[SPEAKER_05]: I not just in fact actually dragons I really like the parallel that they have especially because when you want to think of like [SPEAKER_05]: things that are very, very rigid in an order hard to really argue too much.

[SPEAKER_05]: It's like, man, time is like literally the definition of like, well, yes, you order things so frequently.

[SPEAKER_05]: Like our schedules on a daily basis, the way, you know, we track things.

[SPEAKER_05]: It's like it's all done through time.

[SPEAKER_05]: And it's kind of interesting that like the task mask or all these little mundane tasks are then [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, well actually yeah, you know what this does tie into time itself, which our time god is a dragon and what's considered a pretty major force is very it's kind of like the the the the most dunked on of all of the major classes I would say [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, he's probably on the list of most yeah, but that's because a lot of times like and I mean saying like oh by the way, I'm like a really good organizer isn't exactly like all that threatening compared to like oh by the way, you know, I can blow up [SPEAKER_05]: The entire existence of the world gets a little more intimidating sounding.

[SPEAKER_02]: I manage time itself is a little different than I organize things and keep things right.

[SPEAKER_05]: But at the same time, if you want to get like weird with it, like, you know, it's a [SPEAKER_05]: Water itself is, you know, something that you generally we can walk through, push our way through, swim in everything like that, but you have water run across something for a long enough period of time and it'll wear it away.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, right.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it seems soft and easy to move, but in different, like a flood is a terrifying thing.

[SPEAKER_02]: Correct.

[SPEAKER_02]: Like, yeah, the faucet dripping, not satairifying.

[SPEAKER_02]: Unless it's like on your head for weeks at a time, when it becomes terrifying also.

[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, there's similarities here.

[SPEAKER_02]: Akatash may be, according to what we understand, the actual foundation of time itself.

[SPEAKER_02]: But that doesn't mean that period doesn't feel, especially from their perspective, like a more real version of time, [SPEAKER_02]: A being that actually exists, well, I mean, actors actually exist, but interacts with the world who then helps them understand the ordering of things, the tasks and the cycles of life, birth and [SPEAKER_02]: death and decay, all of these things all kind of consumed by time in that order.

[SPEAKER_02]: So it makes sense that they would see a similarity, or at least this writer would see a similarity between those things.

[SPEAKER_02]: And that in reach society, they don't need accatosh, they have periite.

[SPEAKER_02]: It's a very similar kind of place, even though, from up, if you zoom out and you go, okay, well, accatosh seems more powerful than periite.

[SPEAKER_02]: according to what we know on a kind of a grander scale.

[SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't matter to the reach folk.

[SPEAKER_02]: That's not what matters.

[SPEAKER_02]: What matters is what happens now.

[SPEAKER_02]: And Perry, I can show up in my living room or spread of disease in my camp.

[SPEAKER_02]: What the heck is acutage ever done?

[SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, sure.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, maybe you get an aspect of acutage fighting to save oblivion at the end of oblivion.

[SPEAKER_02]: But the reach folk don't care about that because that's like a once in an era sort of thing.

[SPEAKER_02]: This isn't like a regular occurrence.

[SPEAKER_02]: So, all right, let's move on to volume five.

[SPEAKER_02]: This is the final one.

[SPEAKER_02]: This is where it kind of wraps it up and kind of buttons up some other things.

[SPEAKER_02]: There.

[SPEAKER_02]: Concludes in a way.

[SPEAKER_02]: Now, the reach folk don't only worship dangeric princes.

[SPEAKER_02]: There is one being [SPEAKER_02]: who isn't a daydruck prince, who they do worship.

[SPEAKER_02]: But it's not a typical adria either.

[SPEAKER_02]: Let's get into it.

[SPEAKER_02]: Scholars often dismiss rich theology as simple daydra worship, but the great spirits of the rich folk extend beyond the princes of oblivion, like many human cultures, people of the rich venerate, lorecon, as well.

[SPEAKER_02]: They know him as lorec.

[SPEAKER_02]: L-O-R-K-H, the spirit of man, the mortal spirit, or the sewer of flesh.

[SPEAKER_02]: That was my, I was gonna make a joke, though, that was my high school nickname.

[SPEAKER_02]: That was fun to say, it was disgusting.

[SPEAKER_02]: I could, yeah, I couldn't even know, nobody should be sewer-flash.

[SPEAKER_02]: That's just, you know, happened.

[SPEAKER_02]: Nobody should have that, that was a nickname period.

[SPEAKER_02]: But here, let's get a little bit more into it before we break it down.

[SPEAKER_02]: According to Rich Myths, Lork convinced the Spirit Queen Namira to grant him a place in the infinite void where he could create a realm for wayward spirits.

[SPEAKER_02]: This seems similar to some of the creation myths we talked about that we're trying to justify who Lorkon was or Lorkon's parallel according to say the Yukudan myths or whoever.

[SPEAKER_02]: And what that trickster kind of deity did.

[SPEAKER_02]: And some of those myths, he goes to the void, learns things and comes back.

[SPEAKER_02]: Namira seems like a representative of the void has some sort of void like thing going on or maybe even is the void.

[SPEAKER_02]: And so the connection between those two makes sense because we see parallels and other theologies about that.

[SPEAKER_02]: Right, exactly.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, rather than a vibrant paradise, lurk created a hard and painful place, a realm that taught through suffering.

[SPEAKER_02]: They are talking right here about the Mundus.

[SPEAKER_02]: This is what they're talking about.

[SPEAKER_02]: They're talking about existence in the world on Tamriel because this is suffering.

[SPEAKER_02]: According to the regimen, and probably most people, we joke about this all the time about how if you actually lived there, it would be terrifying.

[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, no, it's a horrible place.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but this was like, according to plan, this is what Lorkon wanted the world to be like, according to this perspective.

[SPEAKER_02]: While some resent Lork's cruelty, most praise his wisdom, according to the regi folk, those who suffer most, no best.

[SPEAKER_02]: Remember, it's through the suffering and the conflict that you become stronger and wiser.

[SPEAKER_02]: hardship is a means to glory and wisdom and lork provides hardship and ample supply.

[SPEAKER_02]: So lork is a thing to the reach folk and the reason why the world is so difficult, but they wouldn't have it any other way.

[SPEAKER_05]: Right, they actually appreciate the challenges that he's putting him through.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, yes.

[SPEAKER_02]: In chat, Alcatraz just asked question.

[SPEAKER_02]: Also, the reason one of the ones going around saying, Perry is a dragon, they are one of the groups.

[SPEAKER_02]: I think there are other groups that see him as a dragon like, if I recall.

[SPEAKER_02]: I don't, I can't, maybe the, I can't pull it off the top of my head right now, but that's worth looking up.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's definitely a thing that it's not totally unique to them.

[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[SPEAKER_02]: So the final paragraph in this whole thing lurks supposedly, and this part is the part that is most interesting and ties into some of those theories that I've kind of put out there, or just kind of played with.

[SPEAKER_02]: And again, theories are just theories.

[SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't mean I firmly believe these things to be true, but it seems like it would be cool if there was more evidence for them.

[SPEAKER_02]: Well, the idea that lurk on may be somebody like Mike, the liar, so walks around, maybe the player character in all of the games, those kinds of concepts.

[SPEAKER_02]: are not new.

[SPEAKER_02]: Right here, it says, Lord supposedly still walks among the mortals of Nern.

[SPEAKER_02]: He appears only once in a great while, braving the pain and sorrow of the cruel world he created to aid the reach folk in times of desperate need.

[SPEAKER_02]: My research indicates that the dreaded, briar heart ritual may have begun as a reflection of that immortal sacrifice.

[SPEAKER_02]: So, first thing here, clearly, when I played Skyrim, at least last time I played Skyrim, I must not have been lork on because I did not do nice things for the rich folk at all.

[SPEAKER_02]: I killed a bunch of them because...

[SPEAKER_02]: That's what the Quest said to do, so.

[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe you just waiting out the week once.

[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe that's it.

[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe that's it.

[SPEAKER_02]: But also the Breyerheart thing, this idea of like, they want to be more like this deity that they respect and worship.

[SPEAKER_02]: And so if they can find a path towards immortality by becoming a Breyerheart, then they get that, I guess, that's a goal.

[SPEAKER_02]: That's brutal.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, would you do that?

[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, they've got to take a hold on their chest and pass on the Breyerheart being [SPEAKER_05]: carved out and then grown in a tree.

[SPEAKER_05]: Spire heart ritual is rough.

[SPEAKER_05]: Have we ever gone into that?

[SPEAKER_05]: I feel like we did it for Halloween episode one year.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's come up.

[SPEAKER_02]: We talked about the, we've talked about around a lot of these ideas.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know if it's a pretty brutal ritual where you're just [SPEAKER_05]: Basically just removing your heart.

[SPEAKER_02]: It sounds most unpleasant right and for anybody who hasn't I don't know who this is but for anybody who hasn't had a chance to play Skyrim you didn't want to want to get into Skyrim and you want to play a sneaky character You can steal their hearts right off of them.

[SPEAKER_02]: You sure can it's really funny because they fall over [SPEAKER_02]: Can you imagine how blind and defy would have to be to be like don't you go to do watch the northern pass make sure nobody comes into our can do what have a sense of all my heart out of my face what happened to me just fall over [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so there you go.

[SPEAKER_02]: The rich folk ends their primary date.

[SPEAKER_02]: Now, this doesn't mean that they don't worship other daydric princes.

[SPEAKER_02]: Mayward's dig on is one that comes up on occasion, but these documents focus primarily on these daydric princes and lorkon as being [SPEAKER_02]: They're kind of the thing that connects a lot of the reach folk together in different equal points.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, kind of a unity among a group that's not particularly unified.

[SPEAKER_02]: Sure.

[SPEAKER_02]: I can think of it like that.

[SPEAKER_02]: So any final thoughts on this, Lotus?

[SPEAKER_05]: So this was actually one that when we were looking into what to cover next, I actually, I knew some, but this one I was really interested in finding out about because a lot of this was kind of newer to me because the only experience I had with it was [SPEAKER_05]: Well, the stuff they talk about it to a degree in Skyrim, but like, you know, the Mark Earth expansion and stuff, but a lot of this, you know, you've got to kind of delve into the books for the stuff and I hadn't as much.

[SPEAKER_05]: So it's kind of interesting because it's, again, [SPEAKER_05]: There's not as many tribe.

[SPEAKER_05]: There, I mean, there are definitely tribal groups type of thing.

[SPEAKER_05]: But it's kind of interesting because this is one of the, I don't want to say lesser groups, but lesser known groups in a lot of ways in the series.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but among the people who do know about them, they're fairly popular.

[SPEAKER_02]: A lot of people tend to really like the reach.

[SPEAKER_02]: And I think it has to do with kind of that like hardship like, oh, they're tough and they make it through the world and the world is difficult kind of thing.

[SPEAKER_02]: And they don't just feel like other Nords or anything like that.

[SPEAKER_02]: They're distinctly their own tribe for sure.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.

[SPEAKER_02]: So there you go.

[SPEAKER_02]: That's the reach folk and some of their worship.

[SPEAKER_02]: Now this doesn't go into a concept of like a creation story or anything like that that we've been talking about in previous episodes recently, but it does delve into who they worship and why and their perspectives on those daities, which [SPEAKER_02]: is interesting because not every group views the same individual powerful beings the same way they all kind of come at it from different angles depending on what's most important to those groups so it's another one of those themes that just keeps on coming like each each powerful being is viewed distinctly different by groups based on their own perspectives so right cool stuff [SPEAKER_02]: Well, no, universal truce.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so we're going to take a quick break here for the middle.

[SPEAKER_02]: Don't go anywhere.

[SPEAKER_02]: We have Wasteland O'Ne, who was not able to join us for a patron chat last time, who sent us their character.

[SPEAKER_02]: So we're going to go over that and we've got to think our patrons and all that stuff.

[SPEAKER_02]: So don't go anywhere.

[SPEAKER_02]: We'll be right back.

[SPEAKER_06]: This is a Miss Mollock Dragonborn.

[SPEAKER_06]: You are education yourself to the Elder Scrolls.

[SPEAKER_02]: All right, Lotus, you ready to hear wasteland honies, character?

[SPEAKER_02]: Let's do it.

[SPEAKER_02]: All right, here, check this out.

[SPEAKER_00]: Hey there, wasteland only here, and I'm here to give you guys my Elder Scrolls Table Top D&D character.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I've actually already got characters set up, because I am obsessed with D&D beyond making characters.

[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, so I'm doing things like serpent, who is an Argonion Arcanist Warlock.

[SPEAKER_00]: Here's a sixteen constitution, fifteen charisma, fourteen dexterity, [SPEAKER_00]: Fifteen wisdom, titanium intelligence, and eleven strength.

[SPEAKER_00]: These are all steps I've pre-rolled when I made this character.

[SPEAKER_02]: So just to pause it really real quick here, only did this in D&D rather than in the system that we used before.

[SPEAKER_02]: But again, this specific details of the numbers because we weren't actually playing, doesn't matter so much as one of the numbers mean.

[SPEAKER_02]: So I definitely funny that they already had this, like, sat up.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: So it keeps going, here we go.

[SPEAKER_00]: He's a champion of Hermes Mora Hemp's Wiesel, so we'll look at my accent, and he wields daggers.

[SPEAKER_00]: His personality traits are, I aim to read every book, learn every secret, and assist my prince finding every love secret.

[SPEAKER_00]: Ideals, knowledge, [SPEAKER_00]: The path to power and self improvement is through knowledge.

[SPEAKER_00]: Bonds are sold my soul for knowledge.

[SPEAKER_00]: I hope to do great deeds improve my worth to my prints and flaws.

[SPEAKER_00]: I am easily distracted by a promise.

[SPEAKER_00]: The promise of information and will attempt nearly anything to get my hands on it.

[SPEAKER_00]: He's also got a watchling companion, which was gifted to him by Hermès Mora.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's a watchling named horror lag, and it basically just acts as a gateway between him and Hermès Mora to relay information.

[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, that's my character.

[SPEAKER_00]: And if anyone's interested in actually looking at the character sheet by in person, I'll actually link that into the discord.

[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: Thanks for letting me record this Tom and I hope you all have a great day.

[SPEAKER_00]: So what do you think, Lotus?

[SPEAKER_00]: That was great.

[SPEAKER_04]: And I mean, you know, you know, that I immediately a fan of anybody.

[SPEAKER_02]: That's got to be a way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you, Tony, for that.

[SPEAKER_02]: That is a fun.

[SPEAKER_02]: That's fun that you already have these characters I'll set up.

[SPEAKER_05]: I just like it's just already prepped and I'm like trying to figure out how it works and they've got it already.

[SPEAKER_05]: Oh no, I've got a whole bunch.

[SPEAKER_05]: This is like our effective.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so good stuff.

[SPEAKER_02]: So thank you for for sending that in and [SPEAKER_02]: who knows maybe we'll end up playing a little like one shots with our patrons that could be a lot of fun.

[SPEAKER_02]: I'll have to dig a little bit deeper into the actual system and see if I can't get that.

[SPEAKER_05]: I feel yeah we'll have to definitely figure that out because we would also need more than an hour for that.

[SPEAKER_02]: Unless we did like quick little one shots like I'm just real quick one job.

[SPEAKER_05]: Maybe I'm not very exposed enough in this to know how any of this will work.

[SPEAKER_02]: You can do you can do your network.

[SPEAKER_02]: You can do an hour.

[SPEAKER_02]: It would just have to be like you have to be like focused and focused.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, everybody's like get to it and yeah, so anyway, maybe that'll be a thing.

[SPEAKER_02]: But we also have to think our Patriots.

[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, don't go anywhere also because we've got the random page and I did hit the random page and I was like, what this?

[SPEAKER_02]: No.

[SPEAKER_02]: No way.

[SPEAKER_02]: So random even for us.

[SPEAKER_02]: No, it's actually it feels intentional, but I just hit the random ones.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's even better.

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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, were you ready for the random page?

[SPEAKER_02]: All right, how random is it?

[SPEAKER_02]: Well, [SPEAKER_02]: And that here's the here's the category that's really random because I have the random button but it is a hundred percent random but it feels like I did this intentionally and I promised I didn't I didn't even have it set until we did the break and then I just hit the random button right then you probably could have seen my face while I was looking at the screen if you're watching the video when I went oh okay so I don't actually know what this is so I would find it funny if it's the actual document we were reading it's the same exact talking [SPEAKER_02]: I could be, but no, it's not.

[SPEAKER_02]: All right, so this is going to be the greatest.

[SPEAKER_02]: That would be amazing.

[SPEAKER_02]: All right, so this is under more people.

[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, as it names that start with, oh, name is over.

[SPEAKER_02]: Vaticron over.

[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, was one of the reach folk historians and storytellers active in the second era, five, eighty two.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, what's their outside Vata Shawn Hullos, which is the like Mark Arthur expansion solo dungeon trial experience thing actually.

[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, right is a reach folk story and in story tellers.

[SPEAKER_02]: This is exactly what we're talking about.

[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, that is really on the nose.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, during the period of the intrigue, she was the keeper of the tale of the meeting between Rada Al-Saran and Red Eagle and the custodian of the sacred cave underneath Red Eagle, Reed Out.

[SPEAKER_02]: Is that, I don't know, Reed Out's one of those words I always feel like I'm mispronouncing.

[SPEAKER_02]: It's such a strange word.

[SPEAKER_02]: Red Out, Red Out, Red Out, Red Out, Red Out, Red Out.

[SPEAKER_02]: But there's a whole article here about over a but yeah reach folks historian storyteller random so random it was it felt like I did it intentionally but yeah, I didn't say if I wasn't part of the show I might call you alive.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, yeah, that's I mean it's hundred percent real so Hey, whatever you know the thing about being incredibly random is sometimes it's [SPEAKER_05]: going to actually align with something else as part of the randomness.

[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: If you've been watching this show or listening to the show long enough, you will know that most of the time, the random button is totally random.

[SPEAKER_02]: It's like we're just doing it to what we're talking about.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: Here's a rock on this side of Daggerfall and it's like cool, I guess.

[SPEAKER_02]: Great.

[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_02]: Within some words.

[SPEAKER_02]: It's awesome.

[UNKNOWN]: Right.

[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[SPEAKER_02]: It's something that we get this.

[SPEAKER_02]: So very, very cool stuff.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: And if you haven't played through that part of ESO, go check it out.

[SPEAKER_02]: There's a bunch of huge stuff.

[SPEAKER_02]: It's really cool.

[SPEAKER_05]: For anybody that does play ESO, other than Mark Roth expansion being very well done expansion.

[SPEAKER_05]: It was the first time that West Johnson had returned to ESO as a voice actor.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_05]: But if you enjoy any type of challenges, and you can obviously put it to whatever difficulty you feel appropriate.

[SPEAKER_05]: Votatron Hallows is actually like a really cool experience, and it's only for one player, so you don't need a group to do it.

[SPEAKER_05]: It's designed for a solo instance, so it's one of those things people are often like, oh, do I need people to play?

[SPEAKER_05]: So with you can, but not always.

[SPEAKER_05]: And that one requires only one person, you can't go in as a group.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, except for a very specific content, you can do almost everything by yourself.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, say about ninety seven percent of the game can be so load.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, so there you go.

[SPEAKER_02]: So go check that out.

[SPEAKER_02]: Notice, thank you for joining me again.

[SPEAKER_02]: Chat, thank you for being here.

[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to wrap up the episode.

[SPEAKER_02]: This was another fun one.

[SPEAKER_02]: I've been having fun with these, you know, the gods and creation and all that stuff.

[SPEAKER_02]: If you have some ideas, if there's questions you have about other stuff that you want us to cover while we're still kind of doing this gods and theology, creation, kind of, you know, stint.

[SPEAKER_02]: Let us know because there's a lot of things that we've touched on.

[SPEAKER_02]: We've talked about the chimer turning into the Dunmer.

[SPEAKER_02]: We've talked about the worship of the daydric princes by them.

[SPEAKER_02]: We've talked a little bit about the orcs and, you know, those.

[SPEAKER_02]: other lesser known groups like goblins which are actually kind of people even kind of like the orcs used to be people before they were playable.

[SPEAKER_02]: Back before the orcs and our gonians were really designed into actual full braces.

[SPEAKER_02]: We've talked, we've kind of touched on a lot of these things, some of that stuff we've done individual episodes for, but there's a lot of stuff that gets referenced when we're talking about one thing and it just kind of comes up because it's tangentially related, but we haven't done a whole episode on it.

[SPEAKER_02]: So if there's something that you're like, oh, I really wish you guys would delve a little bit deeper into this.

[SPEAKER_02]: Let us know, comments, if you're watching the video, if you're on our Discord, if you're on the Patreon, comment on the episode, let us know what you would like us to dig a little bit deeper into and we'll do that.

[SPEAKER_02]: But let us see if anything else you want to share before we head out.

[SPEAKER_02]: Um, not really.

[SPEAKER_05]: Um, we're actually working on getting another episode of tales, or our kind of own our like little in between week thing, but we're actually working on getting something set up for this weekend.

[SPEAKER_05]: Um, and also for anybody interested in tangentially related stuff.

[SPEAKER_05]: Uh, I was going to say, quick on has just started from when we're recording this.

[SPEAKER_05]: Uh, yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: Hexin heretic remaster.

[SPEAKER_05]: beginning my limited run physical edition of that.

[SPEAKER_02]: The only the only people who know what this even is are like our ages are older.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: No, I am totally a boomer shooter dude.

[SPEAKER_05]: That's my thing.

[SPEAKER_05]: Like night dive studios is quickly becoming one of my like all time favorite studios because they just put out.

[SPEAKER_02]: Bang or remaster after bang or remaster and I love it.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: So these were games that were designed on the original Doom Engine back in the mid nineties.

[SPEAKER_02]: He had a build engine.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.

[SPEAKER_02]: And people played Doom.

[SPEAKER_02]: They loved it.

[SPEAKER_02]: Demons of those kinds of things.

[SPEAKER_02]: And so hair taken hexen were released within the next few years after Doom I believe.

[SPEAKER_02]: and they delved into more of the occult and like cast spells and doing that.

[SPEAKER_02]: There's a lot of medieval stuff.

[SPEAKER_02]: Very high fantasy type of snake.

[SPEAKER_02]: Like dark.

[SPEAKER_02]: Almost Diabloish in its life.

[SPEAKER_02]: Like very Diabloish.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, no for sure.

[SPEAKER_05]: Or a deep life.

[SPEAKER_05]: That's not a word.

[SPEAKER_05]: Absolutely is.

[SPEAKER_05]: That makes sense, no.

[SPEAKER_05]: If you like the old style type of shooters, I would definitely check this out, but I'm very excited just to see what Quake on has sometimes, you know, because it's more of like Bethesda Khan, Quake on, it's just a super cool name.

[SPEAKER_05]: I think I'm not feeling it isn't they keep it, because it doesn't even have that much to do with Quake recently.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, back in the day, it was where you would go if you wanted to play Quake against a bunch of other people on the land, because the internet was too laggy and slow on the nineties.

[SPEAKER_02]: That's where you came from.

[SPEAKER_05]: But at the same time, you'll see a lot of Bethesda related stuff.

[SPEAKER_05]: I eat the Elder Scrolls.

[SPEAKER_05]: So, check it out.

[SPEAKER_05]: If you do play, you'll see they run in a whole bunch of sales as a result of a quite con event as well.

[SPEAKER_02]: And across the rest of the Bethesda catalogs, there's a lot of stuff.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, actually, I just see a lot of stuff.

[SPEAKER_05]: But that's this catalog in one way or another, is even having sales on DLC, or it's just like sales on the games themselves.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_05]: So it's worth checking out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: There's no direct access to that.

[SPEAKER_02]: It's fine.

[SPEAKER_02]: No, I'm sure nothing bad would happen.

[SPEAKER_02]: Nothing bad at all.

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