Episode Transcript
Hello, and welcome to side Quest.
This is our weekly video game show here at Geebers.
I'm your host, Dylimusnight with me.
The war is over again.
Travis Snell, how are you doing tonight, my friend?
Speaker 2I'm doing good.
Speaker 3Could we be back on side Quest?
Got some fun topics talk about.
And it is the week of Halloween, so that's always the time we're the most cheerious.
Speaker 2A couple of different days Halloween.
Speaker 3I love going out trigger treating costumes, seeing going on scary movies.
First time I'll talk about it probably on the next newscast.
But here in Colowna, they're playing the original Halloween in the theaters.
So me and are gonna go do a date night because now the twins are older, so we can do a couple more date nights nowadays, where before we're just locked up for months.
But I am doing well.
Speaker 1So yeah, yeah, it's it's funny.
This is like, yeah, this as you mentioned that week of Halloween, and this whole month, I've had like a horror game to talk about, or last week he did like a zombie thing with Taylor, and this week I have no horror because I haven't really played any new games, so Unfortunately, the closest to Halloween episode of the year doesn't really have any any scary stuff in it.
But that's okay because we're gonna talk about some fallout.
You know, Followed has some creepy moments to it, so I guess that could be Halloween in a way.
Talk about follow up, talk about some Halo.
We're gonna finally get to our spoiler film thoughts on Donkey Kong Bonanza because Travis has Rold credits.
We'll leave that for the back half of the episode as deep spoilery things we'd like to leave us to the end, and then another little Marvel Cosmic Evasion check in thing.
So should be a fun episode, So let's just take it right into Marvel Cosmic Invasion, which is as I've mentioned when I think it was last week two weeks ago with Taylor where you're doing a draft check in and I was worried.
It was getting extremely worried week.
Yeah.
Yeah, still did not have a release for it, and it's like the last game on my draft that doesn't have a release date.
I was getting scared.
They kept saying twenty twenty five, and they finally have confirmed it's coming out December first, so it is coming out very soon here, and then they've announced I think the final two characters.
I don't know if there's any secret ones they're gonna have in the game when.
Speaker 2It actually come out, like secret character, you know.
Speaker 1Yeah, I think because they I think they said it has like fifteen characters, and we might be at that now, so I don't know.
Maybe they do have like a nice secret like you're can unlock a boss as a playable character.
But what they showed off here was Geen Gray and Ironman.
So iron Man makes sense.
He's kind of in all these games all the time.
But Jean Gray's kind of a fun off the wall pick because she's not even in all the Ultimate Alliance games, right, she kind of sometimes misses the boat unfortunately.
And then there was some other fun details in the trailer here.
But I'm really glad to get that release date.
Yeah, what did you?
I guess where are you at with this game?
Like, are you picking this up now that you've seen a bit more of it, are you still kind of like, Eh, it's fine, I'll play it later when it's on sale or something.
Speaker 3Yeah, I think that's like if it was if time and money wasn't at all then, absolutely, But right now I don't want to, even though it's probably not the longest game because I have him behind, I'm still trying to work on the backlog.
So now that I've finished DK, I might pit around a little doc you con, which we'll get into.
I still like for just every once in a while, I'll put onto Oh, just I want to break some stuff.
Speaker 2It's good for half an hour.
Speaker 1Cool.
Speaker 3I do want to get to Alan Waite too, my plans do that in October.
I didn't really get to it, so that's why that's next on the list.
But I'll probably wait to hear what you think and other people think.
I think it's gonna be good.
It looks fantastic, art looks good.
As I've talked about before.
Me and the girls like these type of games, but right now, same thing.
They're plugging away.
They have like seven Lego games, so we're not really buying any new Lego games there.
So yeah, I didn't think it was gonna be out this year, to be honest, even though they were saying that it doesn't matter, like, yeah, it doesn't matter what dev say, right, All it takes is one blog post with a black wall text like We're tried really hard, but next year we can't wait.
But no, both choices kind of make sense.
Like Ironman almost felt strange that was waited this long because I feel like iron Man's almost becoming Wolverine, where when you get a Marvel game, you're gonna get iron Man because you know whatever where it is.
Iron Man starred the MS and really got a lot of new people into that John Right and Robert Downey and that's gonna be a big reason for doomsday.
And then Jean Green I actually didn't think was weird because obviously, like I'm looking at now and looks like she has some fire going on, but like the Phoenix Force, which I'm not sure how much I think she'll probably have some of those powers, know, but that's very spacey, right, that comes like the comic book and even the animated series one.
It comes from outer space.
It's not just like a oh, a gene that's hidden in her body.
No, it's usually the oh, what is the the Necron crystal or the Kamara crystal whatever.
Yeah, yeah, but it's like a crystal.
It has all this lore that I remember as a kid reading like what but I do have to ask.
I'm looking at this roster right now, Rocket is he He's a separate character, right he is?
Speaker 2Yeah, okay, yeah.
Speaker 1It is rude.
It's just Rocket and yeah, I don't think it's in there.
So maybe the first time in a video game that they're kind of, you know, separated from each other.
Speaker 2Other than Lego, I think Lego Marvel they were separated, I.
Speaker 1Think, but at least in Lego, like Groot is still in game where I think the rockets kind of on his own, away from his best buddy.
Speaker 3It's just very deceiving because in the art that I'm looking up the roster, they have Rocket Raccoon on the shoulder of she Hulk, so it's funny.
It almost makes you think they're a duo.
But yeah, I count fifteen here, so I hope they're lying because you know, I talk about many times we don't get to wake up on Christmas and get that joy, like, oh, what's that present gonna be?
It's usually socks or shirt or gift card.
Halloween will get trick or treats.
So I feel like one of the only few.
May it's be a good brand and butter one of the only few like pleasant surprises you can get life is in video games, and a secret character.
Speaker 2As long as it's spoiled anything like that, Like that's it.
Speaker 3And I remember how much fun we had for Marvel Alliance, right, like we speculated, but until we got there, it's like, is this person playable?
So I hope you at least get one.
But I think it's a fantastic roster and I definitely will be picking this up at some point.
Looks fun, art looks fun, and the roster.
I think it's a good collection of main people and some weirdos.
I think they definitely got more main people than it looked like at the start.
Speaker 2I feel like they led with all the weirdos, but now like Wolverine, Iron Man, I'm even.
Speaker 3Throwing Jen Gray as like a main like mainstream one, Captain America, Venom, spider Man, Storm, Like those are some silver surfer, Black Panther, those are some big, heavy hitter surfer.
Speaker 1That's gonna be Yeah, that's.
Speaker 2Gonna be a good one.
But uh, you know, great characters nonetheless.
Speaker 1So yeah, I wonder if they were saving it so that, like when they could do their three or four trailer drops post the actual announcement, like each one of those could have like, oh, now iron Man's in here, Now Storm's in here, no Venoms in here, like get some of the kind of big ones in there for each of those announcements.
Maybe that's kind of one of the things they were going for.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I hope there's a couple of secrets in there.
I think Shredder's Revenge because it's the same team.
I'm trying to think if that had a secret character, because I think you could play as what's the rat, like the trainer guy for a Yeah, I think he maybe was not announced prior to the game coming ounce Maybe that was a secret.
And then I think they had like DLC.
So I don't know.
If this game does well, I could see it getting DLC maybe adding some new characters in that way.
But fifteen is a lot more than Shudder's Revenge had.
Oh yeah, if we look at for kind of comparing it one to one.
Speaker 2Also to hurt my credit was the m cron Crystal by the way them really close.
I was I was some mambo jumbo or something.
Speaker 1I believed it.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1The other thing that I spotted in this trailer that I haven't seen before is it looks like there's different costumes for these characters, are at the very least like different palette swaps for them, because I saw, like Wolverine, I think, has this classic brown yellow, but then there's also like the yellow version that I saw in there, and then Jean Gray had like the more like black and yellow variant tour as well, So I think I don't know if they're different costumes or if they're just like color color swap rounds.
But that's that's fine.
I'm sure you'll hopefully you can unlock those or I don't know if that's in there so that you can have like multiple gene grays at the same time or something.
I'm sure that's kind of what it is, so that's cool.
And then I don't know.
I'm sure some of these villains have been seen before, but in this trailer they had soar On in there, which makes me wonder if we're gonna go to Savage Land, because I thought all this stuff would be kind of in space rather than like on Earth.
But I guess you could just transplant soar On and stick them in space like I could believe it.
Speaker 3Yeah you could, and even Savage Land even though it's like it's like a weird it's it's Earth, but it's not like.
Speaker 2It's like Earth adjacent.
Speaker 3It's like a weird place, right, So even then maybe maybe maybe you start there, you know, and then you go up to space.
But I can see if you're taking like a little break a mission in Savage Land kind of fits the cosmic vibe, i'd say so.
Speaker 1And then they also showed up, yeah, task Master Modoc Galactus, So I mean even task Master Modoc those are more like Earth based characters anyway, but yeah, we just put them in a spaceship in over space.
That's totally fine.
So yeah, very very excited for this game.
I'm definitely picking it up day one.
I think it's actually like I was kind of hoping, maybe be nice if it came up before the twenty four hours stream we could play some co op on there.
That's not gonna be the case obviously this year.
Maybe next year we can test it out, but December firs is a good release it because I don't think I'll really be playing like there is like Metroids coming out a few days after that, and.
Speaker 2Are you locked on Metroid I'm not.
Speaker 1I'm not what I'm saying, like I kind of want something.
Speaker 2Else to I'm not either.
Speaker 3Yeah, yeah, I think that last tray there was the last chance to kind of sell me, sell me, and I was like, okay, maybe one day, but not a not a right away thing.
Speaker 1So I yeah, I think.
I think it looks fun, like there's some decent stuff to it, and even like like we're not don't have it in the show notes, but Kirby air Riders they had like another hour long direction show and off a bunch of stuff there, and like, that game looks amazing and I want all these games, but when every Nintendo game is like one hundred and fifteen dollars, I just like, okay, I gotta really pick and choose, like what games I'm picking up, And unfortunately those two are not making the cut for this year.
So maybe someday.
Air Riders for sure, I like, yeah, I don't need to go into it in big time, but man, that game looks fun, looks like it has so much love and heart poured into it, and fuck, there's just so much going on.
And obviously it's like very similar to Smash and the Ethos just because it's the same team or at least SACRAI making it so that game looks really great.
But this is a nice end of the year drop because I don't think there's too much more I'm picking up for the rest of the year.
I think I'm gonna let me, let me look at my list, see what games.
Speaker 3I gotta say over for next year.
Next year's the big big huna.
You're especially GTA.
Speaker 1Yeah, I was thinking about that too, like as excited as I am for Resident Evil, like maybe I just wait for a sale on that one, because I don't know, especially around that time with like Double O seven is gonna be around that time, that's gonna be a Day one for me.
GTA is definitely a Day one.
There's a lot of them, and so I.
Speaker 3Was kind of surprised on a side quest when I heard you tell about being a Day one.
I was like, like, not that you don't like the series, but I was like, oh, okay, Like I wasn't sure, but I thought just because there was so much stuff, but I was like, maybe just a really quiet time because sometimes that happens too.
Speaker 2But I kind of thought, like, I don't know if that's gonna stick a Day one.
Yeah, that's not a quiet.
Speaker 3That's but then when you start talking like right, it's not so And that's where next year's it's just so funny because I feel like you're gonna have tons of games that be in the air, and then tons of games the end of the year because there's gonna be that spring where they avoid GTA.
But GTA itself is a busy game, right because not only those games are main story usually long.
I feel like those are what sometimes like fifty to sixty hours.
Then they have they pumped it with side quest stuff.
And if there is an online right away for us, I can promise you that there's gonna be many.
We play lots of games together like Held out of a cod separately, but are like like just offline, but there'll be many GTA.
I think GV streams because I think the heights and everything we can get some really fun hijinks.
Speaker 2So that right away is a time sink sort of game.
Speaker 3So yeah, but yeah, Resident Evil it's a good slot because I think it'll do well, but just lots of lots of games are gonna have some tough time, I think next year.
Speaker 1Yeah, And I try not to put too much weight on like how many hours is this game giving me?
Because I actually kind of prefer short games these days.
But when you're asking me to pay like one hundred and once again one hundred, one hundred and ten fifteen, whatather its for Resident Evil?
When it's gonna be like probably an eight hour game, It's like, ah, somebody's like even Residual Village.
I waited to like play it in October and it was like half the half off or something like that, So I'll probably do the same.
That'd probably be a good seasonal thing for it, because yeah, twenty twenty six, Double O seven is a day one GT is a day one Wolverine, even though that's not till the full Marvel Tokon for me is definitely be a day one.
I'm very excited for that game.
So those are you know, four full price games right then and there.
Speaker 3And I feel like when we talked about there's maybe like a I'm gonna say no, but I feel like there's a if the reviews are really good, Lego Batman could sway you.
You know, I'm saying you're no right now, but I'm saying any closer.
If there's some good vibes going on, there's.
Speaker 1World Oh yeah, new fire Molombs coming out next year, So I'm gonna right, that's a bait Day one probably, So it's and that's just what we know right now.
I'm sure all the awards it's gonna blast a whole bunch more.
Speaker 2And that's the thing.
Speaker 3Technically, you're talking about those Nintendo games, like even rumors wise, do we have any like heavily strung rumor Nintendo games for actually like big ones?
Speaker 2Really no, no, and that scares me.
Speaker 1Nintendo is actually pretty locked in for a leak stuff.
I mean, there was a big Pokemon leak recently, so we kind of know what's going on there.
But like I'm not buying Pokemon games usually, especially not Day one kind of thing, so yeah, it wouldn't be one for me.
But yeah, we don't really know because we have Mario Tennis, and I don't know, like maybe maybe something's maybe.
I don't think president has been rumored.
People just kind of are looking at calendars and thinking maybe it's time, but I don't, I don't.
I don't know if that's gonna happen next year.
Speaker 3With because I think we discussed this a while back.
The Luigian's Mansion team has been free for a little bit, right, like they put out a different game and then they because well wait was was the Strikers?
Was their last game or was there something else?
Oh?
Speaker 1Man, I think I think that is the same team that did Strikers.
Yeah, I think it's Next Level Games, right.
Speaker 3Yeah, because I remember I thought in Luigian Mansion three they put in like a Striker's East egg and that starts from the fires flaming for us being like, oh, something's happening.
If that's the case, I just feel like and because obviously we don't.
I can't remember if it was before after if you did you guys talk about because it was an episode, I can't remember.
Speaker 2Do you guys talk about Luigian Mansion coming to the GameCube thing?
Speaker 1I don't think we did.
I do when that was well, I think that was in that original showcase for Switch to that that was one of the games that was gonna come.
Speaker 3And yeah, so it's been dated for this Thursday, so that that's cool.
I wish it was a little yeah, I wish it was a little earlier, but okay, a couple of days for.
Speaker 1With three as well, though, right, didn't it drop on Halloween days?
Yeah?
Speaker 3I dropped right before the stream.
I remember because me and had to put like pedal to the metal together.
It was it was awful.
But just with that drop, I know that is I feel like if you do the mount rushmore of GameCube games.
I think Luigi's Mansions on there for many people for multitude reasons, but because they do have it there now, I feel like that's classic synergy starting to get the wheels moving of like, oh, I really liked these games.
Speaker 2They already put out to a couple while ago.
Speaker 1So yeah last I think last year was two, so that's I might.
I always like that too.
That I mean, the Switch is just such a great Nintendo console because it's like the home for so many series now and yeah, oh yeah, the entire trilogy for Luigi's Mansion on there, which is really cool.
Speaker 3So yeah, so I'm not going to trushold you, but I feel it passes the smell test that we could next fall begin a Luigi's Mansion, which I don't want because there's so many I want the game.
Speaker 2Don't want that.
Speaker 3Next year I'll take the announcement, but next year there is enough games for myself on the wall at right now to just even backlog stuff.
But I think that I bet that's gonna happen.
I can smell it already and none.
Plus it's switched to have like a big audience, like they were going to a big audience, but even bigger audience in that I think is maybe not maybe I'm overestimate, but I think there's somebody out there, because it's the reason mean Taylor got Switches was to get Luigi Manche right, I also got for Marvel Alliance.
But I just think that is a nostalgia driven thing that is a good one two punch if it's not a Mario game, which could also be a thing too, right, could just be a three D Mario at any point.
Speaker 1So, Yeah and Strikers was twenty twenty three, I think, and it didn't get a whole lot of DLC compared to other Yeah and Sports games that they've done in the Switch era, So I think if they did go straight from Strikers to working on I don't know if they did the remakes though, that's another thing, and I guess would true take away some of that dev time.
So maybe twenty twenty six would be too soon, but maybe they could at least announce it or something like that.
I don't know because I guess, freak, when does that movie come out?
The next Mario movie April April, so they probably maybe they want some fun announcements, but they probably want things you can actually buy when when that comes out, so we'll see it.
Yeah, there, So we'll probably have some Mario thing, even if it's I don't I don't think it'll be the three D Mario No for that, but we'll probably have some smaller like maybe Mario Maker is like an early next year thing as well.
Yeah, yeah, I guess they have Yoshi so they have a few things.
But yeah, it does feel like there's an open spot on the calendar, which also feels like the case for PlayStation I think Xbox is the only one that we kind of have a bit of foresight, but then they end up canceling half the freaking things they know yea, so who even cares about their calendar?
Speaker 2Well, and that's the thing too.
I feel like switch to is not that they don't have games.
Speaker 3They definitely do, but I feel like it's the early days of the PS five where people kept complaining, so there's no exclusive with the PS five.
They keep going a PS four, but the PS five just kept selling and selling.
I think the Switch To is kind of like that where I think it's whether someone missed the boat, like family wise, didn't get a switch one, or their switch one is broken down.
I feel like that life cycle now for that switch might have gone away to be like, yeah, let's just get a new one, or it's a good this year Christmas, Like that's a perfect what do you get the young kids?
Speaker 2We don't really know.
Speaker 3That's like what we did for their birthdays.
Right, it's a good family.
Okay, everybody likes this gift.
There's a game for everybody.
You got Blue, you got Mario Kart.
So that's where it's like even like I still think next year you could just put out Mario Tennis and probably the Switch Too would have a very successful year with all the old games.
And it sound because you gotta remember it's we're not even when it switched to come out in July, June or June fourth.
Yeah, like we're not even a year into it's selling so well, so there's still gonna be a whole bunch of people buying the switch to just to have the switch To in the next calendar year.
Speaker 1Right, so absolutely, yeah, And then yeah, I was went back and saw we're looking at the calendar released for the rest of the year, and yeah, I think Marvel Cosmics Inviasions is the only like guaranteed day one buy for me, unless somehow it's like the reviews are horrendous, but just based on the team's last game and how freaking great that was, I think I don't think that will be the case.
But even like plans fors Zombie, I was gonna pick that up, that remaster remake, then it's just like extremely buggy and like half assed and stuff.
So like, I don't know, there's a lot of games these days where I I don't pre order anything.
I'm I gotta make sure I wait and see because so many things just come out half baked these days, which is unfortunate.
Yeah, so there you go, there's Marvel Cosmic Invasions in My draft is alive, and I feeling pretty good about my chances right now.
We won't do the full recap because we did that last week, but uh yeah, that's that's good news for me.
Now we just have to hope for Kirkland that Mina the Hollower does get it released.
Date this year, but who knows about that one.
We'll have to wait and see.
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Speaker 2Knows you can't draft, it, Though i'd say probably, right couldn't have drafted.
Speaker 1It ew that would be an Interesting that's an interesting conversation that we'll have to have In, january because there's this is definitely not a spitting image of the original because they don't have multiplayer in, there, Right like it's just a campaign.
Remake SO i could also see that tanking reviews, POTENTIALLY i don't, know well have to, see but, yeah this Is Halo Campaign.
Evolved this is, a LIKE i, said remake remaster of the Original halo's campaign only ONLY i don't know if you can like even go into the multiplayer, maps like there's obviously no multiplayer IN i don't know if you can like boot those up you can do multiplayer co op like, campaign, Right, yeah but it seems like it's kind of a paired down version of.
This from WHAT i, understand this is the original quote unquote original code with like the unreal engine layer over top of it to give it these, visuals which is exactly what they did for The oblivion remaster earlier this, year where it's, Like, okay the game actually plays completely the, same it has the same, bugs it has the same issues because it's just like a code of paint that's like the second.
Engine there's two engines righting at the same.
TIME i don't know all this, works but that's what they're doing here as.
Well but the only THING i don't know is if this is the same code from that original, game or if it's the code from like The Master chief, collection WHICH i don't know if that even had different.
Codes SO i don't.
KNOW i Just i've seen conflicting.
REPORTS i don't think they said in their article like what exactly it is, here BUT i think for the most, part they're trying to be as true to the original game in terms of its feel as.
Possible So i'm guessing that means like no, sprinting like like the Current halo games have and some of these, things some of these limitations or expansions that they've.
Made along with, that it is getting three prequel, missions which who knows how long our short those?
Are are those full length missions that are like half an hour hour?
Long are they just quick little romps through like two.
Environments we'll have to kind of wait and.
See AS i, mentioned no, multiplayer and then of course the biggest thing of all is that it'll be the series debut on A sony PlayStation, console because this is going to be coming out ON ps five as well as of Course xbox AND.
Pc so they've finally gone nuclear with their multi platform, Strategy.
Travis and they said they, Didn't they said they weren't going to do, this but they say so many things and they just go back on.
It so it's almost meaningless to listen to the exacs Over xbox these.
Days but, yeah they're finally making the.
Jump SO i want to hear your thoughts on that element of it, first and then kind OF i don't know your interest level or thoughts on just the idea of this remake in.
Speaker 3General, yeah well that's one THING i talked about a little bit On trafs told, You and now there's with this never trust what these people that are billionaires or running multi billionaire corporations are.
Saying And i'm not saying this in like a they're all, evil like you, know some of them might be not great, people but it's in a sense where they are they're trying to look after the company's bottom, line Right, so and that's WHERE i Think we've seen this montage a bunch of, times BUT i feel Like halo was the peak and then the just nosedive of seeing five ten minute montages Of Phil spencer and team talking about the two games And halo never and the classic quote of if we lose our way With, halo we lose our way To.
Speaker 2Xbox and that's kind of.
Speaker 3It like we've talked about as many, times we knew this was, coming but this is the official kind OF i would, say nail in the, coffin but nail the coffin for The.
Xbox we know Because i's t other themily where it's it's just like it's it's not gonna be like sad of where it completely goes, away but in the sense where you, know in five to ten, years my girls might like if they're still buying, games it might just be a PlayStation, nintendo, Right and there's all these rumors about these these almost two Grand xbox that's gonna happen next, time which sound like just A.
Pc BUT i Guess i'm the reason we knew this was happening is BECAUSE i know it's not the exact same and it's not as, big but the Second gears got Onto, SONY i think for, ME i knew it was.
Over it's like because that that to me is just the second.
Step that's like wetting the whistle a little, bit getting people.
Ready and, Yeah i've never played a Full halo, game never owned A halo.
GAME i don't, think and knock on wood even in The gauntlet because The gauntless year we're going it's gonna be, random so it's gonna wear pull names for a hat or in games from a.
Speaker 1Hat.
Speaker 3Everything we're gonna see what.
Happens never had to play it in there, either so we'll see what.
Happens so, YEAH i don't.
KNOW i could be like it would only.
Speaker 2Be us as a group playing together having some.
Speaker 3FUN i don't don't really have much interest in playing it, solely like Like, halo And i've had An, xbox so it's not THAT i, didn't it's just it came up in a time WHERE i was not really invested in you, know the first person shooter.
GAMES i know it has huge, touchstones BUT i never got any of the new ones Because i've heard they're kind of.
Alright so it to, me if you're looking at the New, xbox which which they, are this makes complete.
Sense get this on.
There even when they did the, reveal this isn't a rumor THAT i can't.
Remember his official title Wasn't phil but someone said like this is the start Of halo being on the PlayStation going, Forward.
Speaker 1Like it's some booty who, yeah forget another big.
Speaker 2Yeah big wig over.
Speaker 3There so that's where it's, LIKE i feel like we already knew, this but if you wanted any BECAUSE i felt like there were a lot OF X Boy xbox people X, boys but a lot Of xbox, people and Even tail wouldn't admit, this, right but even somebody that was like like really, HARDCORE i Think halo was the crown, jewel, like, well that's that's our, guy you, know like that's our.
Speaker 2Chief he's our.
Speaker 3Brand he's A, savior and it's just you gotta get used to That xbox is.
Not they're shifting in a completely for, manner AND i think it sucks BECAUSE i think there's multiple ways this could have been.
AVOIDED i think there's mismanagement since The Xbox one, era which is not a hot.
Take we all know, that but it's just it is sad for me in this.
SENSE i was just, fine you, Know bug And taylor about our sales being better and having better.
Games but you, KNOW i didn't want this console to potentially go, away you, know because, like, yeah and at the same, time the next, ONE i mean some of the emily like if there is like a Last xbox console that's kind of like A, pc it's, like, ah Maybe i'll get.
That at the same, time it's like a twenty twelve hundred to seventeen hundred DOLLARS usd or, Yeah United states price, Take it's like that's a that's that's a lot of, money and it's like what bang from my?
Buck may ALSO i haven't been on since you guys talked about but, YEAH i ditched my games pass just BECAUSE i will get it when we there's something that interests.
Me but right, now there's nothing THAT i can't buy on PlayStation and for thirty bucks a, month that's just a.
Lot so, yeah it's it was inevitable that this was gonna, happen but it is just weird seeing The halo cover with the blue, Shrap LIKE i know that's not even the real, cover but just seeing that aesthetic it feels kind of weird, stuff you.
Speaker 2Know so, yeah it's an odd.
Speaker 3Time but it's just it is this that we're Not we're no longer talking about the future Of, Xbox like this Is xbox, now this is the.
Present they are a big publisher that has some.
Software you, know EVEN i didn't follow, it but, like isn't that handheld super?
Expensive?
Too LIKE i just saw feel complaining about.
It, yeah so it's just it's definitely more for people that have money to just kind of throw.
Around and that's where The xbox that they do have last, console sure for history, sake WHAT i like to own, It, sure BUT i also don't just have money to throw.
Around you, Know i'm luckier than more people out, there BUT i don't have that amount to be dishing out for pretty much like a SMALLER.
Speaker 2Pc so it's we'll.
Speaker 3SEE i THINK i think they're primarily you, know hardware next five years will likely go away and then it's just.
Games AND i don't, know LIKE i, guess do they do still like game?
Like do they still do press conferences and show like like when they do like An xbox?
Director do they still do that if they don't have a console to?
Speaker 2Sell you?
Speaker 1KNOW i think.
SO i think because now more games have more a larger, audience who's actually gonna be interested in those, games especial having it on more platforms than when there WAS i, MEAN pc is a huge, audience but it's kind of a different.
Space so when you have more more showcases where it's, like, oh a quarter of things in here are on twitch to or literally probably one hundred percent of them are on, PlayStation then it's, Like, okay now the PlayStation fans have a reason to tune into this if they weren't, before and even The nintendo fans do as.
Well SO i think they'll do still do that because they still own just an extreme amount of, studios even though they're closing a bunch of them and firing a ton of, people but they still have a ton of stuff to show, off SO i think they'll probably continue to do that for.
Years BUT i Think i'm in a similar boat WHERE i think for, me the point was really the Game pass price, increase where that's just not really a good value.
Anymore and, Like i've gotten so many years of amazing value out of Game pass on my series x AND i don't regret getting this console at, All BUT i don't see myself picking up Another xbox in the, future especially If, yeah this thing That Sarah bahan was saying to being a premium high end, Consoles like what where where's the value in?
This like it is it for the, games BUT i can play those, elsewhere and THEN i can also play all these other things that your console doesn't, have OR i, can you, know buy this console that's extremely expensive to then also pay an extremely expensive subscription every month to access these.
Games it just it doesn't really make sense.
Anymore, YEAH i guess it is for extremely rich, people so, like, sure, yeah that's, fine but, yeah, uh that's just not really worth it for me, anymore especially when there's so many old.
GAMES i still have to, play so many things on My Steam i've bought and haven't played.
Yet there's a million indies that could go play, instead So i'm not gonna be hurting for games to play in the.
FUTURE i could be.
Speaker 3Wrong i'm not trying to put them in a CORNERCAUSE i don't, know BUT i just almost feel like if they're extremely rich, PEOPLE i feel like they're gonna have like THIS pc that can do, everything you, know because it's.
Speaker 2Like that sometimes for me is like the updating and this and, That so go DO i.
Speaker 3Want to spend money that where if people are like the one percent or just very lucky and just have mind to blow and it's, like, oh just get A pc and then take it as shit and they DO, X y AND z to control it work like that's where it's it'll be.
Interesting BUT i just kind of unfortunately with the past ten years Of, xbox just have to lean to it probably won't work out and then they'll just stop doing.
It like LIKE i, said there's almost just like a novelty of WHY i want to get that console BECAUSE i do think that could be the last one they ever, produced this upcoming, one because we already heard rumors that they want to get out of this.
Speaker 2Business and for me it'd be good BECAUSE i don't have A.
Pc but there's.
Speaker 3Always games that show it A Summer Game awards or a game or like A Summer Games fest or game awards where ALL i can't wait and then The steam thing pops, up like oh.
Damn so this is like could work for something that's like a newbie like, meat BUT i don't think THERE'S i can fully met in this.
SPHERE i don't think there's too many that are like, me that are, like, OH i would just get this to play Some steam.
GAMES i think most people like have THE pc for.
That SO i Think i'm in a very small.
Demographic and then also you gotta take my small demographics say, hey who's enough money to pay for?
This?
Speaker 2Right so IT'S i don't, know it's we'll see what.
Speaker 3Happens BUT i just imagine that they put this, out doesn't do well, again and then they kind of it's kind of kibosh, hardware you.
Speaker 1Know, YEAH i THINK i mentioned this WHEN i was talking With, taylor just, like, well even this handheld they just, released it's not really, theirs, right like they just partnered up with another, company slap their logo on, it and, yeah it's An xbox.
Handheld but like not, really you, know it's it's it kind of looks like, it but it's really just like wearing a wig and makeup pretty.
Much and SO i feel like maybe maybe that's the future, Too like maybe there's SOME pc company out there that is, like, oh we're gonna make like a SMALLER, pc like physically something that's meant to be played on a home.
Screen and then Maybe xbox, like, hey you want to partner up and we'll slap our logo on it and we'll make the Next xbox.
Console so maybe we could see something like.
That but, yeah it's it's IT'S i don't.
Know it just feels like they're kind of withering away a little, bit even though they're more than.
Ever they have some so MUCH ip and so much stuff they could.
Speaker 3Do but you, know the point when they Got blizzard And, activision we, thought, oh this is they're really gonna this is gonna be interesting.
Speaker 1Now but it's just and maybe will LIKE I i don't really care personally IF i have their, Box, LIKE i don't care IF i have to play their stuff on.
PlayStation it might be weird the first TIME i boot Up halo on a, PlayStation but then you know, What i'll get used to it pretty quick and it's, like, oh, yeah the game is the, same the controller is just like a little bit.
Different but coming back to campaign evolved.
Here so it's been a long time Since i've played Through halo one.
AGAIN i never even booted Up Master Chief, collection SO i haven't gone back to like those, versions that version of these old.
Games BUT i Love.
HALO i love this, series especially that original, trilogy and play through this campaign many times with my friends growing, up very nostalgic for.
IT i think it would be fun to go to a co op play through with you And taylor And kirkland getting, THERE.
Speaker 2I wouldn't know what's, common that's the.
Thing i'd have no idea what's.
Speaker 1Happened we wouldn't either for at least the three prequel, missions because there's some new stuff in, There So i'm down for that.
TOO i think that's.
Fine LIKE i couldn't EVEN i couldn't tell you all the missions In halo one, now so it's mostly gonna feel probably new for, me regardless of whether or not these are new missions or.
Not and obviously with the new code of, paint it's gonna look a whole lot, different And i'm sure they throw Some it sounds like they're not going to throw in like weapons from future games in, there but maybe they'll have some a kind couple extra fun little bits of bops in.
Speaker 2There do you how?
Much how many people could you play in the?
Campaign originally back of the, DAY.
Speaker 1I only remember if you're doing, two BUT i feel like you probably could do.
Speaker 2Four.
OKAY i hope that's the case BECAUSE i remember.
Speaker 1Four And halo, three but that was, Online Like i'm trying to think split.
Screen how?
Speaker 2Many, yeah so do we think online it could do three to four because that's MY i.
Speaker 1Hope they said you can do four?
Speaker 3Online, okay, perfect BECAUSE i REMEMBER i.
WOULD i was completely down BECAUSE i didn't play it.
FOREVER i was completely down to Replay gears Of.
War WHEN i got TO ps, five even THOUGH i have, IT i was, like, oh that'd be, Fun LIKE i haven't done this.
FOREVER i did it many.
Times my friends stam up playing, that AND i would have been like us doing it.
Together i'd have been.
Fun but then it's, like, okay it's just.
Two so it's, like, OKAY i get that because that's the way that game was kind of from the ground.
Up but, yeah it's even if it's three is great because it's all these sometimes starting to get all four of us together on the same.
Speaker 2Weekend but, four, that's, uh that's.
Perfect so, yeah that'd be a good.
Speaker 1Time just some googling, here And i'm not trusting THE ai over.
You that's what was.
Wrong it looks like the original game had a max of two, locally but then you could do, online even on that Original Xbox online to get into four, players and then The Master Check collection version had like four.
Players well WHEN i don't know if you could do it split, screen but at least that's in an era where everyone has, Online, okay.
Speaker 2So there should be no excuse in twenty twenty six for a stunt to be able to do four people For, YEAH.
Speaker 1I think online they'll hopefully have that in.
There so that's that's pretty.
Cool and if that that, IS i guess a change.
Potential WELL i don't know If once, AGAIN i don't know if you can actually do that split, screen but who's Playing halo split screen these?
Days?
ANYWAY i actually did with a friend like last.
Year it was super, fun but that's a very rare.
Thing to line something like that.
Up but, Yeah i'm excited for.
THIS i, Mean i'm not gonna pay for, It like IF i the next Time i'm like on Game pass to play you, Know Elder scroll six for thirty dollars a, month then like it's probably when i'd play.
This i'm not gonna like downloa because even you, KNOW i still want to get To Halo infants.
Campaign still haven't done.
THAT i don't even THINK i ever Played Halo five's, campaign So i'm a little behind on my.
Campaign but that's where it's always.
GOOD i guess to go back to the original one because then it's, like WELL i don't need to play the other things in.
ADVANCE i can kind of just jump right.
In SO i do Love.
HALO i still like to play Some infinite every once in a.
While probably do that a lot less now That i'm gonna be subscribed to Game pass very, Little but, YEAH i do Love, halo always.
Will it's a very close to my heart.
Series so there you.
Go Halo Campaign evolved is a, thing.
Speaker 3AND i guess the positive the one pro BECAUSE i saw obviously a lot of people that are very heavy on The xbox.
SIDE i think there's a bit of.
It there's something that's, meming like oh, man like going, Overboard but there is some of people that go like if they've played An xbox or whole life and Been loyals, fan never went, Anywhere LIKE i do feel bad for those, people like it will feel weird in come.
Time LIKE i, KNOW i don't know if you will get that.
Console he has to run Past, madison but at some point when they start making, them Like taylor will have to you, know unless he gets A pc buy a PlayStation to Play.
Speaker 2Halo but like that's WHERE i, SAY i guess.
Speaker 3The positive is a lot of stuff sucks that some of the branding's going away and the consoles might die, eventually all the.
Speaker 2Stuff but at least with them being this big.
Speaker 3Company that you could hopefully in five years they'll make a New halo, game you could still play it on the.
PlayStation i'm not saying Like sonic was this be all end all, game but at least or like The sega died and it went away for a little, bit, Right so at least some of these brands.
Whatnot obviously it's just because of, money but if you like a certain brand OR ip you have a chance of getting a new, game, right especially if this does really well in.
PlayStation i think Implore xbox is even more Of, hey let's get a New halo.
Out let's make it really, big because now it's not even, like oh we have to compete, nowadays like, okay we could make tons of money off of, this.
Right so that's the only silver Line i'll get for anyone that's really bummed out is if you like some of these, games they're not going.
Away it's not like if a company would win out of business and then oh what happens To, gears what happens To, fable what happens to you, know Master?
Chief sometimes those things get, Bought but there's many franchise that are out there that are just.
Dead and at the same, point you never, know Because xbox is killed, itself we'll Get Perfect, dark, Right so you never.
Speaker 2Know BUT i think your big ones are, safe AND i think the should do relatively.
Speaker 3WELL i, don't AND i Think i'm probably in a small then diagram of people have Played halo at, All But i'm sure there's some people out there that same thing have only had a PlayStation their whole, life, Right.
Speaker 1So mm, Hmm, yeah, Definitely AND i think that's maybe a bit of a missing piece of the puzzle for PlayStation in general these, days is like a first person shooter campaign focused kind of.
Thing from their first, parties it seems like they're not putting that into that.
Now they did Acquire, bungie like the original developer Of, halo so it's funny to have this kind of full circle connective.
Moment that is.
Funny but, yeah, LIKE i don't, KNOW i think this is like useful to.
Have, WELL i, mean they Had concord and that bomb of, course and what's gone now and Then bungee is Making marathon like the series they made Before, Halo so it's it's funny that they're kind of intersecting in a way.
Almost BUT i, think you, know just like it's happened With florza And See If thieves and like these Other xbox games that finally get poured over to, PlayStation you look back at PlayStation's best selling games of the months after that game comes, out and like they're always right there in the top.
Echelon so obviously there is proven to be like if you're getting THOSE i DON'T i guess it would be good to look at how big The gears remake did on.
PlayStation that would be a good litmus.
Test BUT i think even way past, That halo is campaing of always gonna sell huge y on on.
PlayStation that's gonna be it's goods gonna be good For.
Xbox they're gonna make a lot of money from.
Speaker 2That, Yeah AND i think when that.
Speaker 3Happens another thing IS i think the last shoot really draw it For, xbox because who knows what they'll do with this console or.
Whatnot BUT i think the last shoot to drop will be going away from like The Times exclusive.
Speaker 2Right even then they might go, like, well we could just make more.
Speaker 3Money let's say any Ad jones two comes, out right and last time it was like six months or eight months.
Whatever if they look at enough dad and, go you know, what we would just make a lot more money if we just dropped at both PlayStation xbox right, here, like who cares if they're buying it on.
ESPECIALLY i guess to that, point a lot of these Games Indan jones.
Two we're gonna talk about another fallout in the, Future halo.
Anything if that, console this big expense one comes out and is very, niche it sells very.
Niche they will be more, employeed like you, know let's just get everything day one and not worry about like selling it on this seventeen hundred dollar.
Console, Right so, yeah, yeah that's, right like, that that's the next shoot to, drop and it's gonna.
DROP i don't know, when BUT I i Think i'm pretty confident by saying we're in twenty twenty.
FIVE i bet by twenty twenty, SEVEN i think, that Or i'll say with, me.
Speaker 1Because we know so far it's Just Doom Dark ages is the only ONE i can think of off the top of my head that dropped day and date on.
Speaker 3PlayStation i, think so that's so, far unless there's probably some little title out there that we're not thinking, of but like for the big.
Boys, yeah And i'll say by like the first half of twenty twenty, seven it will happen or already have.
Speaker 1Happened So i'll drop And date on PlayStation that.
Remake oh THAT i don't.
Speaker 3KNOW i feel like it would have right because it's like, obliving you be able to play there, before so they don't feel like it's a big hold.
BACK i know they could hold it back but it's not like, a oh, man they're holding back.
Speaker 1The remake to it looks like it did release day and date on, PlayStation which you know that was, like oh that was A ps three game as, well so it makes.
Sense and obviously both those are like from The bethesda, Umbrella so maybe that changes things a little bit when you're looking at like Genuine xbox ip that they they.
Created Obviously bethesda gets like a little bit of their own.
Management they kind of run things a little bit on their, own even though they're under that that humongous umbrella these.
Days but, yeah it's already happened a couple of, times SO i think we'll start to see.
THAT i think even The gears one probably did, too right like, that, PROBABLY i think so, yeah, yeah SO i guess maybe it's a little different with, remakes but you know it's gonna happen With halo as.
Well, right that's also dropping day and, date so once that's kind of an expectation of, like oh, Yeah halo game released PlayStation same?
Day why is why Does halo six not release same day on?
PlayStation people will be kind of confused about, That so maybe they just kind of have to commit to that at some, point because it's just an expectation.
Speaker 3The One i'll be watching for next, year because that'll be the same thing as Like halo going to PlayStation is what they do With fable because The fable is day.
ONE i don't think it will, be but if it is day one with, PlayStation AND i think that's every big title going.
Forward could do that the Next, blade like When blade comes, out all the stuff like because again they just might not see the money.
Speaker 1Happening because once again on the under The bethesda wing of, things which would be.
Nice that'd be cool for that.
GAME i want it to just have the hugest audience ever and get a bunch OF.
Dlc so that's that's What I'm, oh, god interesting sad On.
Arcane that would be the saddest thing, EVER i.
Speaker 3Hope, Yeah and that's where there's still probably a lot of sad stuff to happen down the line, too, Right so it's an interesting time and video.
Games you, know already hearing rumors ABOUT ps.
Six it's, LIKE i, just you, Know i'm so happy with MY ps five right.
Now, yeah we're moving too, fast.
Speaker 1You, Know, SO i MEAN i did just buy A ps five in the last calendar, years so for me that is still very.
Speaker 3Fresh but, yeah, yeah but as you've, SEEN i don't think they're gonna be.
THEY i think more than, ever they're just into making games for the old base as.
Speaker 2Well so, yeah.
Speaker 1Definitely all, right let's, well we're already kind of in The bethesda, spear so let's stay there with a little two for.
One so it Was Fallout day last, WEEK i believe in they announced A fallout Four anniversary, edition AND i think this was like two or three weeks.
Ago the Follow out seventy, six they announced A dlc maybe alongside like A fallout season TWO tv show trailer something like.
That it was a something, yeah, yeah something along the.
Lines pretty much what they announced For fallout seventy six is this new update Called Burning, springs which features the Ghoul Walton goggins character in the, game and he's like giving you bounty hunter type quests and it's going To, ohio WHICH i didn't know this UNIL i looked at a map of THE, us but like they started In West virginia and then they went To pittsburgh and now they're over In, ohio which are all like you, know bordered with each, other so they're all staying in the same realm of.
THINGS i don't really know how The ghule got over.
There i'm sure there'll be some story reason about why he's chilling In ohio given over like Bounty hunter.
Requests so that's one.
Thing but, then, yeah the newer thing here is That fallout is Getting fallout four is getting anniversary editions coming Out november, eleventh which includes all THE dlc that that gave, had as well as one hundred and Fifty Creation CLUB dlc add ons that are included in there as, well and then you can download more as well through The Creation club stuff that still.
Exists and then they said that next year is it's coming to switch To so that's that's kind of maybe the maybe the biggest part of, this like we'll see how that.
Runs that could be that could not go, well but it is a you, know game from twenty, fifteen so maybe maybe it could go pretty well at this.
Point BUT i wanted to bring this up, BECAUSE i, mean, one there's been maybe some, rumors maybe, speculation maybe just people being hopeful of like, okay if season two of THE tv show is going To, vegas like Maybe New vegas gets a, remake remaster or like every.
Speaker 2Year people all the time About New vegas, something you, Know BUT i don't.
Speaker 1KNOW i feel like maybe that was quiet for a few, years THOUGH i feel like it came up more, recently like specifically with the show and, yeah like knowing that, Information.
Speaker 2YEAH i think it comes up a lot more.
Speaker 3OFTEN i just feel like that's always like a fan cat like a fan dream of like either A New vegas game or like a heavy remake Of New, vegas you.
Speaker 1KNOW i feel like that ual rumors, though have been more For fallout three and that one maybe being the next one to get a, remaster remake, Treatment AND i think that kind of spurred up a little bit more When oblivion got that, remaster because it's, like, oh this IS ps Three xbox three sixty.
Era you would think that maybe it's they could employ the similar techniques that they use to make that.
Remake, Obviously bethesta didn't make that.
Remake they just got another studio THAT i forget the name of to do, that you, know throw that unreal engine code of paint over top of.
It so it seems like maybe that would be the next, One AND i did a not a full play, through BUT i played a good amount Of fallout, three maybe a year or two, ago and, yeah LIKE i think the game still holds, up but you, definitely like specific, specifically the gun mechanics in that game are like not very good at.
All you can't even like fully aim down scopes of your gun unless it's like a sniper that has like a scope on.
It so obviously there's like a lot of room for improvements there to make the game just like a bit more better on the action side of.
Things but, yeah like obviously those would be the more, exciting more worthy, remakes but this is the easier thing to, do is to just put a little bit of extra something On fallout four and then sell that.
Again and it's funny, that LIKE i feel like we were meaning on Like.
Skyrim it's, like, oh we're past a decade now of them remaking new versions Of, skyrim and it's, like, yeah follow up four has been out for over ten years, now OR i, GUESS i guess it came out In november twenty, fifteen, right so IT i guess it's just hitting its ten year.
Mark you're muted, Now, Travis but, yeah like it's that it's ten year mark and now we're kind of just in that same.
Cycle so you, know we got The oblivion.
One it gives me a hope that maybe we will see.
Those but, yeah AND i think this does make a lot of, sense just Because fallout, FIVE i still think is very far far away Of, yeah The Eldest girl six is their next.
Thing they're gonna support that WITH, Dlc so we're not gonna see fall of five for a very long time unless they hand that ip off to some other, studio WHICH i don't think they'll, do SO i think in the, meantime you fill the void with seventy, six dealcs with remakes three masters of older.
GAMES i just was hoping for maybe something a little bit more exciting Than fallout, four which already looks and plays pretty damn.
Speaker 3Good, Still, yes, yeah, YEAH i think that's the interesting.
Thing we've obviously talked about That Emi skyrim people felt like that.
WAY i feel like Obviously last Of us gets meaned upon a lot of those images of look at the upgraded one and people go upgrade one like it's.
Speaker 1IT'S i thinkful before it's hard to cut you.
Off, god it's like next gen patch like last.
Year so that was, LIKE i actually got a recent update like super super, recently so it doesn't even feel like it's been a long and like did we really need this right?
Speaker 3Now?
Speaker 2Yeah SO i think it's.
One one THING i SAID i was mute BECAUSE i was.
Coughing.
Yeah that WAS i think our first real group game, review because, you me And berklin had.
Speaker 3It AND i remember a classic review That taylor in the old days that you keepers just sat there and listened to us for an hour talk About, fallout and then he gave like a five minute review Called.
Speaker 2Duty and THEN i think we, figured, oh you Don't actually.
Speaker 1It was so okay to sit out on a podcast.
Speaker 3Episode, yeah that was the rule for the because like what that was Still november and we started the podcast In July, august so so about three months we had, like oh we got to do an episode of only all of us can be.
There so it's interesting, that so go back.
Speaker 2List that's.
Funny.
Speaker 3Two another thing that's funny is you Have last Of, Us mario And, fallout these massive, franchises gaming, ips getting, shows, movies and there's not like a specific sequel to go.
Speaker 2With them or game to go with.
Them i'll See.
Speaker 3Mario there's tons of, them, right but it's like where always, like, well they're gonna have that THREE D mario here at some, point and they never really have since.
Speaker 2Then and for the next, Movie last Of.
Speaker 3Us there's been rumblings that they're doing The last Of us three and MAYBE i guess they were working on that the online, game, right so that could have been, it but that's dead now and now saying with, Fault so that's the, thing BECAUSE i do Remember Neil druckman saying, that, hey anytime a season comes, out we sell a bunch of copies Of last Of, us AND i guarantee you that's the same way we'll fall.
Out the same way is when that show.
Ended i've always heard great things About New, vegas never played.
IT i don't have games passed right, now but that's the one GAME i would like to maybe after season, two If i'm hyped them fallout AND i have a little times like, Oh i'd love to get that.
Off see NOT i don't Think massive game to like other games that are out right, now but to the extent of there will be people like myself because even, now but back then there's just stuff you, missed especially when you were.
Younger you couldn't buy, everything, Right SO i think this is your kind of like kind of insituay that we're fault.
Five, yeah long ways.
Away so it's like you either have three.
Options either you gotta rush that game, out which we know is not gonna happen with THE.
Testa they're not that type of, company right Of, oh we just got to throw something, together so that's not.
Speaker 2Happening they're not gonna hand it, off which you, Know i'm curious why they were spin.
Speaker 1OFFS i want to do.
THAT i actually have that on the calendar to do Pitching fallout For fallout.
Spinoffs SO i don't want to get into it now BECAUSE i definitely want to dedicate a full episode of.
That BUT i think that's just the, answer and like even THAT i agree with.
Speaker 3THAT i agree with that BECAUSE i feel like That sally hot, cakes and maybe just don't make it also as big as well, too like make it some, like, hey we want to get half, this but just because the other thing Is fallout is known for obviously their big worlds being very.
Weird you, know, uh voice trees or, whatever dialogue, trees but also like Even fallout, four WHICH i think is everyone looks, like oh good.
Speaker 2ONE i REALLY i enjoyed it most.
Speaker 3Time their stories are intriguing in the concept of, them, Right so the same thing of like maybe make the world fifty percent smaller than Fall at, four but the story just rocks, right and it's not or even like what they do Because i'd, SAY i don't know what size it, is but with like the outer world and stuff like, that, right that's nowhere near the size that but people like that and has a lot of, Options SO i think there's.
Ways but if they're not going to do any of this, stuff then this is the best scores action just to simply make.
Money i'm with you Where fallut four is not that.
Old IF i wanted to play, It i'd probably just reboot it up on MY playsps, Four and even that might even work for MY ps, five like my own.
Speaker 2COPY i don't know for, sure but a lot of the games are backwards.
Compatible do you know if that even?
Speaker 3Works like, no Just fall, four just old fall.
Four, Yeah so it's, like IF i really want to play, IT i would just pick up that same.
Fog and of course THERE'S dlc this and.
That but it's just but at the same, time there's always people that missed fault, for and there's always gonna be new people that are coming in the gaming system that same.
Speaker 2Thing i've never heard of fault, for never got it.
Speaker 1On their, Hands So switch audience potentially a big pocket for that that.
Speaker 2Too so, YEAH i think in this, sense it's smart to make.
It the show's well.
Reviewed i'm excited for the.
Show we'll be reviewing.
Speaker 3That and, yeah, NO i think IT'S i think it's a smart decision if obviously the game is nowhere near and they're not doing your, suggestion WHICH i, agree of doing just a spin off or.
Speaker 2Something so mm.
Speaker 1Hmm.
Yeah and THEN i kind of just thought of, this didn't have it in our notes or, anything But starfield like, that there was like they kind of teased THAT.
Dlc that was like two months.
Ago, now, YES i feel like we haven't seen anything about.
It do you think that's like A Game awards level thing or does that get like a spot thing at The Xbox developer showcase where we get like a Big STARFIELD, Dlc like when when's that game kind of coming back into the limelight a.
Speaker 2Little bit do they have with the?
Speaker 3Directs do they kind of have like a rhythm of every couple of months or certain dates and whatnot yet or?
Speaker 2No BECAUSE i don't follow them as much The xbox.
Speaker 1Ones so they have their developer direct Every.
January it's at the end Of.
January then they have their, yeah LIKE e three spot showcase and that's like the only guaranteed places that you.
See there's, like, UH i guess that's where they lowered all the stops and they put a lot of money into like a production value to put like an actual big show.
Speaker 2Together did Uh halo have a date?
Speaker 1Yet call a campaign?
Involved, YEAH i think it's just twenty twenty, six let me, See.
Speaker 2Okay my theory then would be that maybe it comes.
Speaker 1This twenty twenty, Six, no no, month or an, OKAY i feel.
Speaker 2Good Game board's always an, option Right.
Joe but sometimes you don't.
Speaker 3Know Sometimes xbox has been silent at those things like The xbox brand and now That bethesa is a part of.
That, right there's always some like a games out OR.
Dlc so, maybe BUT i feel like start, field get bigger.
Showcase you never, know BECAUSE i Think jeff will sometimes take whatever but at the same, time maybe if he has bigger, stuff Especially december is the bigger, show it's a thing of like, okay and.
Speaker 1That could be like THE ps five announcement for it as.
Speaker 2Well that's WHAT i was gonna say.
Speaker 3THAT i think whether It's Game awards or whether It's, JANUARY i think THE dlc will be saved or and also if you get ON ps, five it's all this together as.
Well so that's What i'm kind of theorizing, That and that's WHY i thought If halo was early in next, year they might go, like, oh let's way a little, bit Let halo have its time and then roll At.
Starfield but If halo's twenty twenty, six that could be more in the.
Spring so, yeah my theory IS i bet It's, january and THEN i bet it's also THE ps five announcement, too easily could be game, wards BUT i think whenever you get THAT dlc comes THE ps five announcement as.
Speaker 1Well, yeah, YEAH i Guess STARFIELD dlc does just make sense to me to be in that developer direct thing if they want to do, that and that might be a good way to show off here's what's.
New maybe weird have like An Xbox developer direct where they now it's a PlayStation announced.
STAKE i feel like those usually come, later BUT i THINK i Guess doomed Dark age is WHAT i had that, Too SO i don't.
Know MAYBE i just need to get used to that and it's not that weird anymore because they've just done it so many.
Times but drives any other fallout?
Thoughts or should we move all along down the dusty old trail?
Speaker 2Here, no let's get dust, then all, Right, well let's.
Speaker 1Dust it first to AN ad break and we'll be right.
Back, okay we are.
Back Donkey Kong bananza came out In, July, travis it's taken you a couple, months but you've finally rolled credits on this bad.
Boy you've peeled back the banana and had every last potassium bit there for.
You we did a kind of spoiler free discussion where we, talked you, know about our first few hours with the game back In, July so go back and check out that.
Episode but from here on, out full.
Spoilers if you haven't beat the game yet and don't want to know what happens near the end or, anything this is not the discussion for.
You there's an episode all about that kind of.
Thing we probably won't talk about mechanics.
Much probably more just like worlds and moments and things like that would be my.
Guess but, Yeah, travis you've beat this.
Game now what do You what do you think of Don kulk And bananza now that you've played through this whole.
Speaker 3Thing, yeah, HONESTLY i think that's THE i talked about that original, one AND i THINK i still hold the same way where it's a game and even earlier, tonight it's a game THAT i have lots of fun and can EASi beg out of kill some, TIME i do want to smash some, Stuff but at the same, TIME i think, one there's multiple times WHERE i, pick, oh here's my chunk to do a big play, through and then suddenly half in my life life's been hectic since Telling combinaza's come.
Speaker 2Out but ALSO i.
Speaker 3Think there's times WHERE i would be doing it and, then like we talked about the initial, review but it's still continued on where it just can feel a little samesy at, times, Right so you just DON'T i don't feel like it's like a desk stranding where MAN i don't want to put down this remote because the next thing across, there what's this guy in and gim?
Me you just don't, know, right or even LIKE gm mode for, me it's like you can get one email where it's, like, Oh i'm playing this for another forty five minutes BECAUSE i want to get this, contract get this power, card, whatever where Talking.
Speaker 2Kong it's always just kind of rinse and.
Speaker 3Repeat it feels very much just like a good ambience vibes type of.
Game though of listen because the soundtrack's, good AND i think my thoughts as far as the game.
Speaker 2Is pretty much the exact same WHERE i was.
Speaker 3BEFORE i think IF i, OVERALL i would give it like an like an, eight because it is just like a fun.
TIME i like the, stages it's.
Speaker 2BEAUTIFUL i like the.
Speaker 3Score there was some fun surprises at the.
End it's nowhere near like IF i make A Nintendo top ten or Even top, TWENTY i don't think it'd be in.
There BUT i could still SAY i had like tons of fun with.
It BUT i think that's another reason why it took me so, long other than life.
Stuff WAS i would play, hour hour and a half and then be Like i'm ready to switch it up or do something else or just kind of, go, Okay i'm ready for.
Bed that game also just put me to sleep many.
Times and it's not a bad.
Speaker 2Thing it's.
BAD i just feel like because there is a repetitive nation emotion to.
Speaker 3It and even then because at that point when we talked about we did another side quest and you had gone, FURTHER i think it beat at that, point and even getting the other, animals like there's some fun ones in, there but nothing that was a big change.
UP i think that my favorite's the, elephant just BECAUSE i love that.
Trunk, yeah The elephant's.
Awesome so, again LIKE i had tons of.
FUN i think it's just a case of we're talking About lui's.
MANSION i think it's similar to how me And taylor felt about, three where we had fun with, it but we're a little let.
Down that's WHERE i was With Donkey, kong WHERE i think my over my expectations kind of overhyped it a little bit for myself because it had been so, Well but on the, WHOLE i still had a fun time.
It even the surprise ring to talk about the end or you, know the back, HALF i was surprised by that BECAUSE i think many times said out they're gonna save that character for a little.
Bit SO i don't know if that was a good thing or bad, thing BECAUSE i kind of thought that was like a perfect setup for a, sequel, is, oh we haven't done this guy, yet and, well now you've done, him so you can always bring him.
Speaker 2Back but, yeah, overall and the same thing IS i enjoyed.
Speaker 3IT i did absolutely love, it BUT i probably would still buy a, sequel to be, Honest, LIKE i enjoyed it that, Much so that's why do.
Speaker 1You enjoy enough to buy the thirty five dollars?
Speaker 2Deal?
See do not enjoy enough to buy?
That from what they.
Speaker 3SHOWED i remember it was that early console or The tintendo when we watched a couple of months, Ago and, YEAH i don't Like i'll spend a full probably out for a full game ABSOLUTELY DLC u and THE dlc that they, Showed, uh not so.
Speaker 1Much, No, yeah it's.
FUNNY i had like my ORIGINAL i wrote out a bunch of notes back when WHEN i Played Donkey Honk bonanza and just left them on my note.
Cheaper when we finally got back to this and one of the.
THINGS i was gonna be, Like, oh what are they gonna do FOR.
Dlc and it's funny that now since, then we've actually had A dlc announced and come out that is, playable.
Speaker 3And i've heard nothing about.
It i've heard no, chatter AND i haven't seen anything on a gaming podcast.
LISTENING i haven't seen anything.
Online i'm not saying it's.
BAD i just feel like it just.
Speaker 2Felt like one of those classic cases of.
Speaker 3Just hold that, back you, know just hold that.
Back we don't need to put that in the base.
Game it's, Like, Okay i've heard it's.
Speaker 1Fine, yeah it's like good, enough you, know all that kind of.
Stuff do you think we'll get MORE dlc for this?
Game where are they kind of content with just one like quick little POST dlc pack and then move on to the next.
Speaker 2Thing, YEAH i don't.
Speaker 3Know it's weird because you were mentioning that About strikers didn't get that.
MUCH i think we all Thought Mario kart by this point would have got a lot.
More and, yeah like even the Don com, BONANZA i thought that was a layup of, oh absolutely they'll do some.
Speaker 2More ONE dk.
Speaker 3Skin has to be, something especially in the, game like you could have done all these animals as the skins Of Mario kart right or even the multi Colored, Donk like there's so much.
OPPORTUNITY i know that's.
Speaker 1A big but LIKE i Think Young pauline for, sure seems like she'll definitely happen in.
There and you know K rule now that he's like back in the, limelight like him throw him on a.
CART i would love to see.
That and Like Diddy kong is still not in uh marcoul Like Donkey kong is the only one from that that realm that's actually playable in.
Speaker 3There, yeah so it was it was a little, odd but, Ah i'm gonna say, NO i don't think.
Speaker 1So, Yeah i'm kind of feeling the same WAY i think another in terms of like how much sales would it?
Generate obviously they had this one, here BUT i mean based on how quickly this first one came, out like after the game came, out it seems like one of those things that they kind of just made even before the game even, released, right and then they just kind of split it off to sell it.
Later but, like, yeah like the switch to is still new, ish it's still selling some for some, people it is still like sold out in some places and they can't get their hands on.
ONE i think most people are able to get one if they really want, one, though but it's still, like, okay, well the amount of people who own a switch to and Own bonanza and are gonna buy it is pretty.
Minimal LIKE i, think you, know some games later in a console's life cycle maybe just more likely to GET.
Dlc SOMETIMES i think THAT i don't know If i'm pulling that out of my, ass like MAYBE i should go fact check, that but it feels like a thing that can be kind of.
TRUE i can buy, it but, yeah even Like Mario kart eight was kind of weird where it got THAT dlc for THE.
Wu then like years and years and years and years later we got like all those.
Courses oh yeah all the time.
Speaker 3Too it felt like it was always getting like once THE dlc started With Mario, kart it, was it was, flowing it was going, fast.
Speaker 1It, was but that was years.
Afterwards SO i don't know what they're gonna do for, World like maybe they're just gonna come back in five years and DO dlc for, That LIKE i really did set that D dk, thing.
Speaker 2But could there's a bigger bass on.
There feel that's all the switch to and everything gives you another reason to Buy Mario.
Speaker 1Kart, SO i don't think we're getting like Another nintendo direct this.
YEAR i think we're pretty well set, Up like we just got that one For.
Kirby kirby's coming out in a few.
Weeks you have The age of whatever the fuck That, zelda you, Know musso games coming, out you Have Metroid so, LIKE i don't think we're getting another direct this, year and THAT'S i don't Think Mario kart is one of those things you just drop On, twitter, LIKE i think you want to have that in a direct like they, do like The Luigi's mansion drops like those kind of.
Things, yeah the online they do On, twitter BUT i don't think they want to do that.
Here, So, dravis what is uh top of?
Mine what's your favorite layer In Don?
Speaker 3Comananza my favorite LAYER i did really like because BECAUSE i think there's an added.
ELEMENT i can't remember what the names.
Are you also remember it is playing this game without a map.
OPTION i play it the whole way through beat the.
Speaker 2GAME i impress.
Speaker 1It that's gonna be a speed run category like map.
Speaker 2PERCENT i will have to bust it out now for going to do the other ones.
Speaker 3Now BUT i think there was that world that WAS i don't remember the, name but it was a lot of lava and a lot of hot stuff going on.
Speaker 2AROUND i think some of the early ones were.
Good The Feast, layer like the Food Eat, Food, YEAH i think, so because there's like.
Speaker 1Instead of, lava it's like deep friar oil pretty.
Speaker 2Much, yes that's the.
One and there's some areas until you get the elephant you can't really access and.
Speaker 3Stuff SO i don't.
KNOW i like that aesthetically because it was it was the lava had like a gold tinge to, it so you're kind.
Speaker 2Of map for.
Speaker 1Sure and Like odyssey had a world kind of like that as.
Well so they like they like their food, worlds AND i don't think we've ever really got that for Dun, kung even though he's.
Old that's WHY i like so it feels very thematically.
Speaker 3Accurate that's WHY i liked it because everything, else like the beach, world it's, like, OKAY i can get, that like a watery, place, yeah a bit more.
Tropical it's again that we're h in THE dk classics, here you, Know so but that one that probably somewhere a little bit before uh Kink.
Rule it's at The Groove layer or something like, That like that's a more Y, yeah it's me.
Speaker 2Come back to.
Speaker 1It there's actually some postgame stuff, there like a couple of extra requests to.
Do so that was because the first TIME i was there was, LIKE i like, this it's, cool weird, vibe but it is kind of.
Small and then, yeah it was when you actually go back there and there's a little bit more to, do that was that was.
Exciting But i'm glad you said that BECAUSE i Think Feast layer is my favorite as.
WELL i think it is probably the individual biggest world and so that also.
Helps like it just that one felt like, forever even for me to see all the different zones of.
It but super fun AND i love the sub layer for The Feast layer was like The Deep friar layer where you're like underneath the Deep frier.
Machine it's like nasty metal and like a little Deep frier oils like seeping down from the.
Roof LIKE i thought that was just like a really Fun.
Yeah how many, games especially, platformers have like the inside of a deep fryer as like a level, theme like that is so weird and.
GREAT i love.
Speaker 3IT i was gonna say maybe the only place is that maybe like toy soldiers back in the day and the like that feels.
Speaker 1Like kind of, specific like maybe they're on the stove or.
Something but, YEAH i love that.
ONE i also really like The landfill, layer which is the one that's just like entirely dirt and like you have to break like literally everything to get through, it like there's just no open space pretty much.
WHATSOEVER i think that was one like right before The Feast, Layer so really like that.
One the biggest disappointment for me though in the game most disappointed layer has to Be Racing.
World did you.
Speaker 3Feel the, Same, YEAH i didn't like it didn't stick with me that, much to be, Honest so, YEAH i won't say missed most.
DISAPPOINTING i don't THINK i had a disappointing one per, se BECAUSE i feel LIKE i could never gauge with the also because with other than, that BUT i could never gauge from the start to the finish the.
World it wasn't like a classic video game where, okay you're gonna, start let's say there's ten, worlds right and it's get, bigger, bigger.
Bigger they were kind of all over the map as far as you'd go to one super small and then very, big and then medium size and very small.
Again so that's why for, ME i never, LIKE i don't think anything to, me like the racing world didn't disappoint, me BECAUSE i think there's some more fun things you could have done with.
Speaker 2It BUT i just didn't know what to expect each.
Speaker 3TIME i gone to a, world because there's times where late GAME i get somewhere and it's, like, oh you've already passed this.
Lay you're like WHEN i JUST i got here like twenty minutes, ago, Right, So AND i also didn't mind that because it kind of changed up a little.
Bit but that's where my expectations were kind of out of whack and all over the.
PLACE i didn't know really what to expect, there SO i didn't have the same disappointment that you.
Speaker 2Did it sounds like so, YEAH i MEAN i.
Speaker 1Think you, know knowing from the trailers that we saw Like diddy And, dixie at some, POINT i was like very excited for that moment ye, like, ooh how were they integrated into this?
Game and then WHEN i got there and it Was Racing, world and Like Diddy kong is hosting A Diddy kong kind of racing, world like, sublayer that is.
Amazing that's such a fun little.
Reference and then the you do like one race and then you, leave AND i was, like, oh that was really.
Quick AND i went back there and to get like one hundred percent completion and it took me like a half an hour or something.
Like there was just very little to do that there was almost nothing to, collect and even like the racing, theme like could have been fun to have all these different.
STALLS i think of like how great The miami map is In, hitman you, know and it's, like, yeah you'd have so many fun different zones within like a racing setting and like the behind the scenes and all this kind of fun, stuff and it feels like we didn't really get any of.
That AND i JUST i freaking hated the racing mechanic that they had in, there where you're like Riding ramby and you have to like not go through this annoying slow sludge and then you have to like climb up on this rainbow thing that never really felt good or seemed quite, right and then like you do the, race you can do it again for like a bonus banana or something like.
That but it's like, this it's just the exact.
SAME i was hoping you'd be, like, oh now we're gonna put like eight racers on, here but it just kind of felt very small and underwhelming for WHAT i thought was gonna be a really, cool weird.
Speaker 2Theme, Yeah i'm not looking forward to the girls of her get to that because they.
Play they played a little bit of.
IT i don't think it to grab them.
YET i think that's a couple of times for.
Speaker 1It but do you ever try to co op with?
Speaker 3Them?
NO i never, did never got a, chance SO i should at some.
Point But i'm the next one on the bat is going to Try Luigi's mansion and.
SEE i think when it might be, OKAY i don't think logans will enough for, it but you never know with kids and games and what can work better and.
Whatnot but that's still in the bucket list for the don kom one because, yeah LIKE i, SAID i don't Think i'm done with the.
GAME i do want to move, on AND i said Do Alan wake and other, stuff so BUT i will dip my toes, back AND i don't know If i'm ever gonna get to a point where Ever hunter complete, it but, uh MAYBE i will BECAUSE i feel like when That Don kong movie comes out of other, stuff, like OH i got a perfect game just to put on for a little bit and have some.
Speaker 2Fun so, yeah.
Speaker 1Yeah and THEN i think at one point in the, game you get to there's like a split path of fork in the road and you can choose to go to the ice world of The jungle, world and then you, know and ACTUALLY i just went back to the other one.
AFTERWARDS i love both of.
THOSE i, think you, know every especially Don kong, game always has like an icy world or a jungle.
World BUT i really liked the jungle one because it was like jungle, poison AND i like that the ice one was like ice lava was like the.
Theme it was like a mixture of those two, things which is like a fun kind of.
Contrast so that was another highlight for me as.
Well and EVEN i think one of my favorites was just The ingot asle like the first big open space you get too after you get through like the OR i guess it was the lagoon because The Ingot isle's LIKE i think the tutorial zone and then you go to The lagoon.
ONE i JUST i really like the layered ness to that.
One so those are definitely some of the highlights for.
Me but, YEAH i guess getting to some of the endgame.
Stuff so like when you get to later in the.
Game you, know throughout the, Game voidcong is set ups like the Big Head hauncho, villain but you're mostly FIGHTING i think per Names poppy and Then Grumpy.
Kong, yeah and then eventually you dispatch them you get to Fight Void.
Kong but then there is the fake out With king K.
Rule he comes.
In you're going through this.
Area it had like a bunch of Like king K rule like bellies AND i was, like oh my, god those Are king K role, bellies those those big golden bellies with the big belly buttons stick it.
Out i'm, like this looks so much like K.
Rule and then he finally pops, up which is.
Amazing you go through like this one initial boss fight and then there's like fake out, credits WHICH i think the original Don Kown country had too of like Kk, rules like the developer or, whatever and like it has all his Like kremlins are like the developers and things like, that and then you go through and you have like the last sequence where you go To New Donk.
City but, YEAH i think that for me as much as like, middling as middling as some of the game, WAS i think it had like really high highs and like some lower lowers are a lot of mediocre stuff in.
It that, finale like that last like hour a, half two hours whatever it, was was like really great and just like the variety of, IT i thought was super fun and everything with K rule Because i'm just such a K rule, fan so glad to get him back in a.
Game AND i love that whole end.
SEQUENCE i guess i'd have.
Speaker 3To that's the funny, thing right BECAUSE i thought about, that and you have the ending sequence great in the boss.
Battle my only kind of critique about the ending, BATTLES i thought they were gonna make it in a way where you kind of almost had to use use all the different animal, structures AND i think they did that like a little, bit but they didn't go full like to, me that's WHAT i would have done AS i.
Too, yes, yeah because you just want to get go and shoot stuff and then you can it Was.
Grilla it Was gorilla And, elephant because if you could pop Off stun and Then, gorilla you're just doing a bunch of.
Damage but that's where that's only my one notice is very, Cool, uh K roll out a very cool, aesthetic looking like godly and.
Speaker 2Whatnot but would have would have made it, That, kay you have to use every single thing you've learned here in a different.
Speaker 3Way maybe it could have been annoy and.
Challenging BUT i feel like that's WHAT i thought was gonna, happen and it, Didn't SO i was.
Surprised but uh, YEAH i, Thought, KAY i didn't Think kroll would never be in.
THERE i Thought i'd be.
Eluded even when we see him the first, TIME i, Thought, okay you're gonna kind of branch off and that's maybe gonna set up stuff down the.
Line AND i, thought, okay, well this whole time saying you, know you might See diddy And daisy and they show them off and a little bit that's, fine sets them up for someone, else and saying THE k, RULE i, thought, oh they might.
Wait but at the same TIME i can't.
Remember like with Tropical, freezes he like the main last boss.
Speaker 1In that, GAME i, think so, NO i, KNOW i think his last game was sixty four like.
Speaker 3That, Yeah so that's why for me at, FIRST i was always, like, oh well they got the same BECAUSE i JUST i think it's because Of.
SMASH i think it's also because of how much you talk about, him but because that's WHAT i also grew with sixty, Four, Right so in my, mind it's, just, oh it's Kay, rule that's the bad.
Guy so it's almost like The Batman joker thing of, like, oh you could like have K rule sit this one.
Out but then WHEN i thought about, IT i was, like, OH i guess you, shouldn't because if they're trying to rebrand him in a way and get more people affiliated With Donkey kong that haven't been in, years it's like you kind of do gotta re establish his arch enemy as well, Too, Right so at FIRST i was surprised that he ended up becoming the main.
ONE i, went, oh how DID i feel about?
That but then once they sat upon, it upon it and it was just.
Fun it was fun to do the fighting and everything like.
That but and for the, story the fake out credits were.
Great i'm always a sucker for.
That you talk about Don, KIN i don't remember, that one of my.
Favorites they did that, again talk About Batman joker when we played that with The Arkham asylum.
Game they did that there as, Well so always a fun.
Time but uh, yeah so uh it was a very nice.
Surprise at, FIRST i was confused because, that, oh they're gonna save this but you, know, sorry Bring kate roll back or do other, things and uh, yeah so it was nice to see him in all h also be able to smash but in this grand SCALE hd boss battles taking the main frame and kind of a good little uh fake out BECAUSE I i didn't think K role was gonna be the main battie right.
Now so because even this Dunk on family they are, around but they.
Weren't they were in as much AS i thought they were gonna be in.
Speaker 1It so, yeah, no they definitely saved it for like really right near the end of the, game which is.
Funny, YEAH i can't remember trying to remember like when you find when you finally get to the wrestling match with him and he has like that transformed.
Version oh what the do you remember what his name?
Was in that like they give him like a new name it.
Speaker 2Was, oh, NO i can't remember what it.
Speaker 1Was, No i'll have to look that up because it.
Was it was a really it was a really Fun it had a very like dark souls vibe to the name of just like The, reborn Like king Of vile or.
SOMETHING i forget it was something like, that but, yeah that was really fun when that when that popped, in UH, I i, YEAH i love.
That you, know the final boss fight of Don kalks sixty four is like a wrestling ring match where you kind of have one sequence with each of the playable characters in, there and SO i like that we're kind of back in a wrestling match for this final, sequence which is kind of a good.
Speaker 2Point.
Speaker 1Yeah, Yeah and, yeah even like The New Donk city part of, It Like I'm i'm kind of of two minds of that WHERE i because the Feast layer, happens and then you, have as you, mentioned like a couple pretty small layers after that when you're leading up to, uh like the k rules.
Stuff AND i just felt like the game needed like one more big zone because there were just so many like middle size or smaller, ones and SO i was hoping that we'd maybe get just one more and when we find when we get introduced To New Donk, City i'm, like, oh hell, yeah bringing back.
This yes it's the location From, odyssey but bring that.
Back having me go through Like King kong, style like through This New york type, setting smashing stuff that's gonna be super fun is like the fun Big Last Final world and you go into the boss, fight and the fact that it was, like oh, no there's actually sludge everywhere and let's it's more of like a platform sequence was a bit of a, disappointment and like if anything that feels like it could be grounds for like a DECENT dlc if they want to do one more like A New Donk city.
Speaker 2Or even a.
Sequel you could pick up there right or someone destroying.
Speaker 1It you.
Know the only weird part about picking up there is that this kind of almost seemingly like connects like right Into odyssey in a way and like sets you up With New Donksy.
Crew it might feels like more of a prequel in that.
Way SO i don't know if they would do that with A dlc or a, sequel but they definitely.
Could but even like little details like when you're In New Donk city there's like posters For Lanky kong and like the rest of THE dk, crew so little little homolages showed outs to the sixty four crew that were obviously very nostalgic For but that sequence was really.
FUN i JUST i, just you, know MAYBE i was being a bit, greedy AND i THINK i was also getting a little bit salty when they had THAT dlc come out so soon after that was pretty, expensive AND i was, Like, okay, nah this probably should have just been in the.
Game this feels like it should have been like the last epilogue kind of, level the one they had in, there and like that extra mode could have just been in there as.
Well but did you.
GO i guess you haven't done this, yet BUT i would recommend there's THESE i think they're called, rehearsals AND i think to activate them you go back to just all the different like the Big gorilla, guy you go to the ostrich, guy and you can do like a post game additional challenge, thing and it is like the hardest content in the, game WHICH i think the game lacked at, times was like actual difficult stuff at like the final but actually was was a little bit trickery in that final sequence.
Speaker 2Around a lot of stuffy.
Speaker 1Definitely but, yeah the way you were Asking, rot thank, YOU i knew something like, that.
Speaker 2Which is a perfect.
Speaker 1NAME i love.
That and, MAN i hope BECAUSE i feel like he definitely will be in the Next smash game as, well bring him back.
Again, REALLY i THINK i Think kate will be back in the next.
Match, yeah we.
Speaker 3Gotta do The smash.
GUYS i think that's a hot.
TAKE i feel like BECAUSE i feel LIKE i DON'T i guess, again like we said all the times that they do that, smash don't you they go back to basics and maybe keep it like a smaller, roster do some different stuff that, Way.
Speaker 1Carle like relevant again now that he's been like this new that's a good.
Point he could have some fresh moves that, stuff and like DONK i.
Speaker 2Would just have to know that roster, size you.
Speaker 3Know but but, again, yeah if you're trying to Revitalize Donkey, kong then yeah you should be in.
There SO i can't say he's, assuring but you've maybe sold me a bit more now where at first it's LIKE i don't, know, like are you gonna put a spot on when it's not, Ultimate like let's say they go back to, bones, like, oh we're only doing.
Speaker 2Thirty it's Like carole's don't get a.
Slot then you, know fuck.
Speaker 1If they go back to, thirty that would be kind of.
CRAZY i would love it just to see fifty five characters from ALL.
Speaker 3I would love to see, it just to see it and get a little.
Crazy you, know that's for another.
Time but, yeah, yeah you made some point SO i could see him in.
Speaker 1There, yeah, yeah good to see him.
Back but, yeah definitely if you are going back at some.
Point i've been doing those rehearsals and then you go back to the disco, layer AND i think it's pretty, obvious like when you can pick, up there's like a new thing to do.
There so that's some fun.
Stuff there wasn't really much else post content stuff like you, know you can go back and click all.
Bananas but for, ME i feel Like i'd done most of the fun THINGS i wanted to.
Do i'd see most of the layers at that, point so there wasn't too much more to.
DO i definitely did not get one hundred percent, completion.
Speaker 3AND i was, like there's fun stuff to, buy like LIKE i want to buy this or do that it's pretty you.
Know but, again AS i said before in the first, review And i'll say again, HERE i imagine that's.
Why and hopefully when the girls get a little, older they'll still like it or get back into.
It but IF i was a kid that had summer breaks and, whatnot then that'd be, Great, like, Yeah i'm gonna get every BANAN i, can, Right so at least if you love the, game there is lots of kind of repetitive stuff to.
Do but if you like doing that stuff and destroying, stuff it's there for, you, Right so, yeah.
Speaker 1Definitely and Then i'd save this question From clay who asked us way back when we did the original, episode which is where does it rank for you in terms OF dk games at?
Large so now you've beat the, game where does this rank for?
You and you're in Your Donkey kong.
Speaker 3Okay so that's a good.
Question SO i feel, like WOULD I i would not include the decon, racing right or WOULD?
Speaker 1I that's up to.
You it's your, ranking so for.
Speaker 2My, games BECAUSE i feel LIKE i, remember.
Speaker 1We should give at least two version of the, list maybe with and Without Diddy Kong, racing BECAUSE.
Speaker 3I won't because they're they're one game that's pretty much the exact.
Same because the problem is the Older Donkey kong games other than the, ORIGINAL i would have to replay all the rest of those just kind of blend.
Together so to, me it's the very first original.
One it's sixty, Four It's Tropical, Freeze it's, this and THEN i feel like it could probably Be Daycon.
Race i'm trying to think there's anything Else i'm, Missing Like i'm not going to count The Drumming, game The Drumming games last than if we're counting, it WHICH i did play at some, point BUT i never owned, It so like and same, Thing i'd have to go back and even replay that original one to see how MUCH i, enjoyed BECAUSE i that one has a lot of.
Nostalgia that's one THAT i played with my dad a lot back in the, day was That, Mario SO i THINK i, would just for the nostalgia's, sake put that number.
Speaker 2Two sixty four has to be in the first and same.
THING i want to play that.
Speaker 3TOO i cannot wait till the day they get that on The switch store and we can play that and then either we're still in love with, it or it's, like, oh you, know playing it at this stage and this is you, know it's maybe maybe i'd glorified it a little, bit, right because we've all played.
Speaker 1IT i want to say.
Recently it was probably ten years ago, NOW i guess it was like EARLY gv.
Speaker 3Days, yes, yeah and at that POINT i, did but just an ACTUAL a TO b start to finish play the whole.
Game you, know it doesn't get the same point.
Too but the good thing that game has for IS i think with the multiple, characters that's where the repetitiveness goes, away, right BECAUSE i bet the actual in game stuff is pretty, basic and it's like this game where you're doing a lot of stuff over and.
Over but because you have options out, there So i'd say sixty Four Original Donkey, Kong i'll Put, Bonanza i'll Put Dicon, racing and Then i'll Put Tropical, freeze because, YEAH i enjoyed it, enough BUT i JUST i.
Speaker 2DIDN'T i don't, know it.
Speaker 3Didn't it didn't hit the way that even this one at least did hit for me give me a sense of.
Wonder So i'd have to look and see if there's, More BUT i think that would be my ranking and same.
Thing maybe IF i Played Donkey Kong country AND i was, like you know, what THERE'S, X y AND, z why this is, age Maybe bonanza could edge.
It but as right, now sixty FOUR i have to kind of replay that.
Again but again that also has a bunch Of nostallasia, there so but still all all good, games like Even freeze was a fun, time you, know for the Ones i've, played So i've probably avoided some really bad Doun kong.
Speaker 1Games so, yeah, YEAH i think for, me sixty four is the number one spot for.
Sure and THEN i THINK i would Put bonanza at number two Because i'm not really a big fan of The country.
Games i've played all of them except For Tropical, freeze not like world credits on all of, them But I've i've played you, know a good chunk of at least all of, them and just not really my preferred like TWO d platform or.
Series and THEN i haven't really played any of the weird spin offs if you if you Include mariover's Don, kong WHICH i wouldn't because Don kong you don't really plays in that, game he's like the villain of.
It, yeah that might that would probably eke Out, bonanza BUT i wouldn't really count that for my, ranking SO i think.
It, yeah for, me it'd be sixty four Into bonanza and THEN i don't know WHAT i would put.
Next i'm kind of fairly equally mid on like all of the country, games SO i don't.
KNOW I Tropical freeze is definitely a WHEN i really want to get.
To but even, still like on the Switch switch Switch, to it's like extremely.
Expensive they never really price drop, it so it's just very pricey, game so not really worth it for me When i'm not really a big fan of the rest of the games in the.
Series, yeah kind of.
Speaker 3Crazy that's A wee game and it's STILL i know it could switch, to but just crazy that they just love putting those big price Take, yeah was was.
Speaker 1That a week?
GAME i thought there was Wasn't wasn't it that was on The.
Speaker 2Wii, No Tropical freeze is A wee.
Game it's a game OR.
Speaker 3Sorr, yeah, sorry, yeah we you.
Game but still it's crazy to me that it's A weu game and where that was how long?
Ago it's still almost a full price game for a switch.
To, yes, yes, yes Bon bonanza it Is, bonanza.
Speaker 1Any anything else on this, Game, travis Uh.
Speaker 3No LIKE i, SAID i enjoyed my time fit a little, underwhelmed but still a fun.
GAME i am very excited, though to have each console has.
Speaker 2That this was not.
Speaker 3That i'm hopefully you, know in the next three to five, years AND i don't Think Metro it's gonna be that for.
Me there is That oh that's the GAME i associated with The switch.
TOO i thought right of the gate that would be Don Kon and it's kind of funny THAT i kind of got Snake bit that.
Way Luigi mansion three like Other Marvel alliance that was The nintendo GAME i needed WHEN i got like you know, what you, know very good.
Speaker 2But didn't hit the.
Heights same thing with The.
Speaker 3Hiss So i'm kind of at a bad streak of that First nintendo brand, game, like, oh you've been waiting so long for this and that is just the instance of, yeah you just work yourself up.
Sometimes but nonetheless good.
Game excited to see what this company does more like this developer does.
More excited to see another THREE D mario at some, point AND i hope there is.
MORE i hope he Because i'd love to see k what do you do for a?
SEQUEL i hope it's not literally just let's just create a bunch of new locations and it just destruction all.
OVER i think that's a good.
Base and then let's see what else knew you could.
Do so maybe more funky boss, battles WHICH i think had a good.
Time even if you got some more characters in, there that could be fun.
Too SO i hope this could lead to that situation where you, know the first one's a good to great, game but then you play a second where, like, okay this now they're really.
Cooking they got all the ingredients together and they create a Great Donkey kong.
Stew So i'll be excited one day if we're Watching game Of wars and The tendo direct and The bonanza logo and the two pops, Up i'll be.
Speaker 2Excited So i'll take that as a good thing for the.
Speaker 1Game so, yeah, NO i would as.
Well AND i, yeah there's as you just kind of laid, out there's so many directions they could take, that so that could be a fun a fun thing if they decided to go down that.
Route but, yes, finally good to close the.
Speaker 2Chapter sorry, Everybody, Yeah, no it's it's.
Speaker 1Good to find it close the chapter on this.
One, yeah it's only been like three.
Months it's not that.
Bad it's not like it's like years later that we're finding the.
Spoiler the discussion of, This, travis thank you for joining, Me thank you everyone for.
Listening we'll be back next week as.
Usual have a good.
One bye.
Speaker 2Bye
