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The Fighter (Part Seven)
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Speaker 2People have got to be put to the torch for this sort of thing.
Speaker 3This is terrible.
Speaker 4The Pendagon paper's leak was deemed to be the most significant national security breach in modern history.
Speaker 5Hoover refused to investigate Elsberg.
Speaker 4The White House created this unit to stop links, called the Plumbers Hunting.
Speaker 5Lyddy then sent the Cubans to the doctor's office.
Speaker 2Well, you know, we may be back in business.
Speaker 1G Gordon Lyddy got to go ahead.
Speaker 2And mister McGruder then called me in, And it was towards the end of April, and he said, can you get into the watergate?
Speaker 1The five team was arrested.
Speaker 2Then we got the softly spoken word over the transceivers.
They got us.
Speaker 1It's someone else was calling the shots.
Why are Hollywood and the media so obsessed with Nixon?
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We're at part seven of our series of episodes entitled the If you haven't heard the previous episode, stop and go back and listen from the beginning.
We're looking for the answer to the question why are the media and Hollywood so obsessed with Richard Nixon by telling the often ignored story of his life.
So to pick up where we left off, g Gordon Liddy was executing his opposition research plan when he received a directive from Magruder, his superior on Nixon's re election committee.
Lyddy, was to send his team back into the Watergate complex for a second time to put a wiretap on the phone of the Democrat National Committee's chairman.
The break in team was also directed to take pictures of any dirt they could dig up from the chairman's desk.
So Lyddy relayed the order to his colleague, Howard Hunt.
Speaker 2And those are the orders I gave to mister Hunt, and that is what I thought they were doing the night that the men were caught.
Speaker 6It was not.
Speaker 1On the night of June sixteenth, nineteen seventy two, Hunt and his team of four Cubans entered the DNC headquarters in the Watergate Complex.
Before the night was over, all five of the men were arrested.
Liddy would I'd later learned that Hunt and his Cuban courts never placed a wire tap on the chairman's phone.
They instead embarked on a separate mission, one that must have been directed by a different ringleader.
Speaker 5One of the Cubans on the team was a man named Martinez G.
Gordon.
Liddy would later describe how Martinez was taking orders from someone else.
Speaker 2So what happened was that mister Johenio Rolando Martinez was given by mister Hunt a map, if you will, a diagram of the interior of that office, and it led him directly to a desk.
That desk was subsequently identified as that of Idemaxine Wells, the secretary to mister Oliver Spencer.
Speaker 5Oliver was an obscure DNC staffer.
Why was the team led to his secretary's desk?
It was strange.
In addition to the map, mister Martinez was handed something else as well.
Speaker 2He was also given a key, and when he was arrested by the three District of Columbia police officers, one of those officers almost shot him because he was trying to get rid of that key.
That key was to itam Maxine Wells's desk.
He was ordered to clean out that desk and give the contents to mister Howard Haunts.
Speaker 5A completely different mission appeared to be happening right under Lyddy's nose.
Was Ida Maxie Wells really the target of the break in?
Liddy would later recall a small detail about their lookout spot on the night of the arrest, a detail that proved her office was in fact the actual target.
Speaker 2If you go upstairs to the lookout room, lookout on the balcony and see what you can say, you cannot see Larry O'Brien's office.
Speaker 5The DNC Chairman.
Speaker 2Now that is significant because these wiretaps have tiny little FM transmitters in them, and FM RF energy is transmitted line of sight.
Speaker 5Meaning that the DNC chairman's office could not have been the target of the wire tap because in order to hear the signal from the device they were planting, Liddy's team needed a line of sight to the office outfitted with the device.
It was only later that Liddy would learn which office was actually in the line of sight from their lookout room.
Speaker 2When the whole operation went south, the wiretap was found to be on a telephone that this room looks right down the throat up.
It was in an area called the Spencer Oliver Idam Maxie Wells Governor's area.
Speaker 5In other words, someone else was directing the break in team, not g Gordon Lyddy.
Why was this different phone targeted, Why was the Cuban supposed to raid Idam Maxie Wells's desk?
Who gave these orders?
And why even break into the DNC in the first place.
I mean, Nixon was on his way to winning a historic landslide election, a fact his campaign no doubt predicted Nixon had stopped all campaigning for the nineteen seventy two election and just came off of his story trip to China and the Soviet Union, both were universally praised.
Why would anyone from Nixon's orbit want to break into the DNC and risk his assured victory.
Well, the prevailing theory leads to the central figure in the takedown of President Nixon, and that man is John Dean.
Speaker 7John Deane came into the White House in July of nineteen seventy as a young Republican attorney in his early thirties, very flashy.
Speaker 6He wore Gucci shoes, and he drove a Porsche.
Speaker 5That's Robert Gedlin, co author of Silent Coup, The Removal of a President, a nineteen ninety one book that offered a sensational alternative explanation for the Watergate break ins.
In an interview promoting the book, Gedelin described John Deane's understanding as he entered the Nixon administration as a White House.
Speaker 7Council He understood that the ticket to the top in the Nixon White House was gathering dirt on the Democrats in the opposition.
Speaker 5You may recall that John Dean was a White House staffer that acted as a liaison between the White House and Nixon's re election committee.
At the time of the break in, he was allegedly resting in San Francisco on his way back to Washington, d C.
After a trip to the Philippines.
He thought he'd get some rn R in the Bay area, but shortly after his arrival he got worded to get back to d C pronto to figure out what happened at the Watergate complex.
In the moment, Dean should have been worried.
He was the one that hired G.
Gordon Liddy to create an opposition research plan.
At the very least, he'd participated in the meetings where Liddy presented his scheme, a strategy that included wire tapping.
If Liddy was involved in the Watergate break in, Dean could be subjected to potential criminal prosecution.
The Monday after the break in, Liddy says he got a call from John Dean.
Speaker 2That very Monday, the nineteenth, at about eleven o'clock in the morning, I got a telephone call and it's from John Deane.
Not surprisingly, he said he wanted to see me, and I went over to meet him in his office he intercepted me in a hall because I was so hot.
I guess he figured he didn't want to have me actually physically in his office.
And we went outside, didn't talk.
We were walking down Seventeenth Street and we came to a park behind the old Executive office building, and there I established from him that he was the damaged control action officer on his thing, not surprising in so much as he had hired me for this whole thing.
And I laid out for him exactly what had happened, and he questioned me and so on, and I gave him every bit of detail, not only about that, but because he was the damaged control action officer, I had to tell him what could be tuned out in the worst case scenario.
So I went into all the details of the Fielding break in for him too.
Speaker 5That's when Lyddy and the plumbers broke into Daniel Ellsberg's psychiatrist's office, Doctor Fielding with his five team members in jail.
Liddy said he made a financial request of Dean.
Speaker 2I told him that the DC jail was a hellhole.
This was a summary time.
You know, it was very bad that the men were there and that they expected that, which is the usual thing in a situation like that.
He bailed out attorney's fees, family support and things like that, and John Dean said his exact words were that everyone will be taken care of.
It goes without saying.
As we're walking back, and this is around noon on the nineteenth now, he said, where's Howard Hunt these days?
And I said, well, he's lying low because the press is after him.
And he said, well, because of that and the other things you've told me, meaning I just related Howard Hunt was in bob with fielding breaking and everything else.
He said, I think it would be best if he would get out of the country and I said, well, like when and he said simmer the better when?
Well, today he want out of the country today.
Speaker 5The cover up had begun and John Dene was its chief desk officer.
Speaker 2I said, his family is already abroad.
Maybe he could be induced to join him.
Speaker 5At around noon, by Lyddy's account, the two went their separate ways.
John Dene went back to the White House and Liddy went looking for a phone.
And this is where the affair entered a crucial point.
You see, when John Dene reported back to the White House, he assured them that no one from the White House was involved in the breaking.
In fact, for the next nine months, he continued that assurance, even to President Nixon himself.
But in that assertion, Dean left out one critical point.
At the time, John Dean was a member of the White House staff.
He was the one that hired G.
Gordon Liddy, and he had attended the meeting where Liddy presented the wild plan that included wire tapping, the exact thing the five burglars were in the act of doing when they were arrested.
So the scandal did reach into the White House, and it crept in through John Dean himself.
Speaker 1As Dean returned to the White House, Liddy got to a phone and called Howard Hunt's office, and.
Speaker 2Sure enough he was there.
And I got him on the phone and I told him that I wanted to meet him.
And I had a dry clean which is an intelligence expression.
Speaker 1Meaning quietly leave his office, like he was headed to the dry cleaners.
Speaker 2Go out, walk a certain way.
I would be reading a paper.
I would be able to observe whether he was being followed or not.
And I got a hold of it, and I said, you know, they want you out of the country.
And you can join your family over there.
And he immediately protested, he said, this is another one of those stupid magruder ideas.
I said, uh uh, the people over there across the street.
Speaker 1It was an order from the White House.
Speaker 2Well, that made him feel more confident about it.
And he's talking to me about funds and he said he still had fifteen hundred dollars of contingency money.
Off I said, go ahead and use that, because it's not fair to have him use his own money to get out of it.
Then Off Howard goes to get out of the country.
Speaker 1But then something strange happened.
Shortly after he convinced Hunt to leave, Leady got a call and.
Speaker 2It's John Dean and I said, gee, John, you know a long time no see and you think that was very funny.
And he said, you know that the order is to get Hunt out of the country.
Yeah, we'll cancel that.
I said, cancel it you and he said.
Erlickman says, cancel it.
Speaker 1One of Nixon's closest advisors, John Erlickman.
Speaker 2Now, I looked at my watch at the time and I said, I said, you know, it's about forty minutes had gone by since I had ordered Hunt out of the country, And I said, well, I don't know if I can get him.
You know, he may have already taken off because I had indicated all that urgency to him.
I said, I will try, and I was able to get a hold of Hunt, and I told him that the signals were off, and he was very upset by that because it indicated they were irresolute and this, that and the other thing.
But the point is this had all taken place very very early in the afternoon, and I had been ordered to get him out of the country and order to bring him back, and he specifically invoked the name Erlkman to cancel the order, and that was about like forty minutes later.
Speaker 1But Lyddy would eventually find out something that seemed to contradict John Dean's reversal order.
Dean would later say under oath that he didn't meet with John Erlickman until around four pm that afternoon.
Therefore, Erlikman couldn't have been the one that canceled the order for Howard Hunt to leave the country.
The reversal order was given roughly three hours before Dean and Erlikman even met, So how did the order get reversed, and.
Speaker 3There was a witness to the call being made to Gordon.
Speaker 1That's when Collodney, co author of Silent Coup.
Speaker 3Chuck Colson, is sitting in his office.
Speaker 1Chuck Colson was a White House aide, and.
Speaker 3In walks John Dene.
It's around noontime and John Dene he says, what happened to Howard Hunt?
And Dean says, hey sent him out of the country, and to which Colson is, that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
Yeah, you're a lawyer, that you're obstructing justice, and he says, go to the fund.
He goes to the phone and calls Gordon.
So that's where the call came from.
The invocation of Erlickman is again John Dene using an innocent in order to cover himself.
And it's what I think they call a modus operandi.
Speaker 1John Dene was a White House lawyer.
Why would he allow himself to get so personally mixed up?
And this whole sortid affair.
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So on the Monday after the Watergate break in Arreests, John Dean began running a cover up.
He had reason to be nervous.
It was Dean that hired the apparent ringleader of the break in, g Gordon Liddy, and it was Dean that had been present when Liddy pitched his wild opposition research plan.
This made Dean subject to potential criminal prosecution.
That was perhaps enough of a reason for the White House liaison to lead a cover up.
But around ten years after President Nixon's resignation, a new theory began to surface that would explain why John Deane got mixed up in the whole Watergate affair, and over the years since its introduction, the theory has only grown more plausible.
Speaker 5In nineteen eighty four, investigative reporter Jim Hogan published a book entitled Secret Agenda, and it made an instant splash in the media.
Speaker 8As his book title suggests, Hogan says there was a secret agenda behind the break in into Democratic headquarters undisclosed till now.
Hogan claims that Howard Hunt and James McCord, who led the break in, never left employment with the CIA, which used the men to spy on President Nixon.
Speaker 5Hogan claimed that at the time of the Watergate break in, the CIA was monitoring a high class call girl operation down the street from Watergate and the reason why Howard Hunt and James McCord broke into the Watergate.
Speaker 8He says the reason the burglars went into the Watergate was because that's where they could find records of visits by prominent Democrats to the prostitution ring.
Speaker 5You may remember a man named Baldwin from earlier in the series.
Alfred Baldwin played lookout on the night of the failed Watergate break in.
He was also the man that monitored the conversations on the original wire tap that was supposed to be on the DNC chairman's phone.
Baldwin would later describe conversations on the DNC wire tap that had little to do with the Democrats' politics.
Secret Agenda author Jim Hogan described what Baldwin heard on the wire tap line.
Speaker 6Now.
Speaker 9One of the major anomalies the Watergate affair has been that, while Baldwin was told he was listening to conversations emanating from inside the DNC, most of those conversations, he told federal attorneys were sexual in nature.
Speaker 5Baldwin would eventually testify that the conversations he overheard on the original Watergate wire tap would lead eight out of ten listeners to believe that quote that's a call groll ring.
This is a prostitution ring.
End quote.
Hogan argued in Secret Agenda that the Watergate break in was to acquire information related to this prostitution ring, and that the CIA was somehow involved in the break in.
This theory laid dormant for about seven years until nineteen ninety one, when the book Silent Coup The Removal of a President first hit the scene.
In an interview promoting the book, its co author, Len Cologne explained how Silent Coup expanded on Hogan's prostitution ring theory and it brought the Watergate break in into a shocking new area.
Speaker 10Phil Bailey was an attorney who represented the criminals and prostitutes and pimps and assorted people here in Washington in the late sixties and early seventies, and one of his clients was a woman named Kathy Dieterer, who set up a call girl ring after another ring had been raided on Eighteenth Street in the Columbia Plaza, and mister Bailey, working with her, knew that there was a connection between the Democratic National Committee and her call girl ring.
Speaker 5He knew about the connection because he was the one that set it up.
This attorney eventually called Lenclodny and told him that he used his connections at the DNC to promote his client's prostitution ring.
The lawyer explained that when a DNC staffer named Spencer Oliver was out of the Watergate office.
A phone near his desk was allegedly used to arrange meetings between DNC visitors and the call girls.
That phone apparently avoided the DNC office switchboard, allowing for these scandalous phone calls to be private.
This detail was corroborated by Alfred Baldwin, the man who monitored the wiretap of the phone.
Baldwin said the callers using the phone would say, we can talk.
I'm on Spencer Oliver's phone.
According to the prostitute's lawyer, pictures of the call girls were kept in a desk in the DNC, and various DNC personnel would display this hooker brochure to visitors and would then arrange meetings with the visitor and the girl of their choice.
And whose desk were these photos in?
According to the prostitute's lawyer, the pictures were in the desk of Ida Maxie Wells.
That name should mean something to you by now.
Remember one of the Cubans that broke into the DNC headquarters was given a map and a key to the desk of Ida Maxie Wells.
Speaker 2He was also given a key and when he was arrested by the three District of come Umbia police officers.
One of those officers almost shot him because he was trying to get rid of that key.
That key was to Itomaxine Wells's desk.
Speaker 5As the prostitute's former lawyer relayed this story, Kollodney, who was working on a Watergate book at the time, immediately saw the potential implications of this information.
The Watergate break and was potentially connected to the DNC involvement in a prostitution ring.
So Collodney and his co author began digging into the claim, trying to find its holes.
Collodney reached out to the Watergate burglar arrested with the desk key.
Speaker 10I was able to interview mister Martinez, the burglar that the target was in fact the desk with the photos number one and number two.
The phone that was tapped at the Watergate was the phone used to make the dates.
Speaker 5The authors of Silent Coup were also able to find the real name of the person running the prostitution ring.
Silent Coup co author Robert Getlin revealed the name that they found.
Speaker 7We were able to confirm through law enforcement sources.
Speaker 6US at time her as a people working on the.
Speaker 7Case that Heidi Reichen in fact had this Kathy Deader alias and is Kathy Deeter.
Speaker 6She was a madam so to speak, in this call girl ring.
Speaker 5So the Silent Coup authors were able to connect the call Girl madam's alias to her real name, Heidi Reichen.
And this is where things get interesting.
Speaker 1Heidi Reichen had a close friend by the name of Maureen Beiner.
The two were once roommates.
Maureen Beiner would later write a book and in it she talked about her good friend, Heidie Reichen.
Speaker 6And there was even a picture of Heidie Reichen in there.
Speaker 1What does this have to do with the Watergate break in, you might ask, Well, the madam's close friend, Maureen Weiner had a direct connection to the Watergate scandal.
Her fiance at the time of the Watergate arrests was John Dean, the White House lawyer running the cover up.
Speaker 7She had been his girlfriend Maureen Weiner previous to the marriage.
The secret to understand, or the ticket to understanding all this is that Dean knew that at the Democratic National Committee, and specifically the desk that we discussed earlier in the telephone the.
Speaker 6Call Girly was being facilitated.
Speaker 7How did Dean know that he knew because Maureen Byner is then girlfriend had a roommate, Heidi Reichen, who went by an alias Kathy Deeter.
Speaker 1So, according to the authors of Silent Coop, before the first Watergate breaking occurred, John Dean knew from his girlfriend who was close friends with the Madam, that the DNC was using the madam's prostitution services.
Speaker 7And he wanted to get sexual dirt out of that operation.
Speaker 1Again, Lenn Kalodney, co author of Silent Coup, there's.
Speaker 10No question what the target of the break in is now.
The target of the break in is in fact that complex, that desk and that phone.
To understand that Kathy Deeter is really Heidie Reichen, who is Maureen Bner's old girlfriend from Texas who she was staying with here in Washington.
That's how Dean found out the sexual dirt was there to get.
Speaker 1They believed John Dene was the person that ordered the original May nineteen seventy two break in of the DNC to get sexual a dirt to gain the favour of the Oval office.
But after the first break in, something happened On June ninth, nineteen seventy two, a week before the final Watergate break in, news of the Columbia Plaza prostitution ring hit the front page of the Washington Star.
The headline read Capitol Hill call girl ring.
The story continued stating, quote, the FBI here has uncovered a high priced call girl ran allegedly headed by a Washington attorney and staffed by secretaries and office workers from Capitol Hill and involving at least one White House secretary, sources said today.
The news reportedly piqued John Dene's interest, and he called the federal prosecutors in the case to his White House office, directing them to bring all of their evidence.
The federal prosecutors complied, and, according to the authors of Silent Coup, John Dene perused through the evidence and found a name, Maureen Biner.
Dean found his fiance's name in the Columbia Plausa's trick books.
The authors believe this triggered John Deane into action.
The Silent Coup authors interviewed G.
Gordon Lyddy's boss Magruder, and he told them on tape that it was John Dean that ordered the break into the DNC office.
Dean met with the prosecutors of the Washington DC Call Girl ring on a Friday.
The following Monday, Magruder called Lyddy to his office and told him he needed to send his team back into the DNC for a second time.
Dean's alleged motive was to retrieve any damning information on his fiance in the desk of Ida Maxie Wells.
Again, Lenn Collodney, co author of Silent Coup.
Speaker 10The real borders were going directly from Dean to Hunt, and mister Martinez was given a key and was arrested with the key that fit that desk, and he was arrested with a floor plan with that X mark.
And he then told us himself, in his own words, that was the target.
Her desk and that phone were in fact the target of the Watergate break in.
Speaker 1Journalist James Rosen would later pick up on where the book's Silent Agenda and Secret Coup left off.
According to Rosen, in writing his book about Nixon's former Attorney General, John Mitchell, his research tended to confirm the allegation that John Dene's fiance, Marien Biner, had her own ties to the Columbia Plaza call Girl operation.
Here's James Rosen discussing the issue in a two thousand and eight speech.
Speaker 11So the question is having identified what the real target was, why it was worth bugging, which we know now from the sexually graphic material on there.
Who would have been in a position to know that our Spencer Oliver's phone was worth bugging?
And as I say in the book, John Dean is the only logical candidate because of the allegations about his wife and Columbia Plaza in the nineteen nineties.
Mister Dean and missus Dean, who I should point out, deny these charges vigorously, either that he ordered the Watergate operation or that she has had anything to do with prostitution activity.
In the nineteen nineties, they sued Gordon Lyddy for espousing this theory and others.
The litigation went on for nine years without ever going to trial, and that litigation saw offshoot litigation.
Speaker 1In one of the cases, Ida Maxiwells sued g Gordon Liddy for defamation based on his statements that she was involved in a call girl ran.
The Fourth Circuit Court sent the case back to Maryland with a statement stating, quote this evidence tends to corroborate the call girl theory generally end quote.
This was from the federal Appellate Court, one step below the Supreme Court.
When the case was sent back to Maryland, it went to trial, and the former prosecutor of the nineteen seventy two Columbia Plaza prosecution ring the same prosecutor that was called to John Dene's office the week before the failed Watergate break in that prosecutor testified that his team had developed credible evidence showing that quote employees at the DNC were assisting in getting the Democrats connected with the prostitutes at the Columbia Plaza.
And he then added a bombshell stating that the investigation was shut down in the summer of nineteen seventy two by the district's US attorney, who believed a probe into the prostitution ring was a political time bomb for the Democrats.
The jury in this two thousand and two case eventually decided in Liddy's favor, again James Rosen, And.
Speaker 11As a result of all that litigation, there was testimony adduced to the record that tended to confirm this Dean's relationship with Columbia Plaza.
Speaker 1John Dean and Maureen Beiner, as well as Ida Maxie Wells, have always vehemently denied any involvement in prostitution activity, and John Deane maintained that he didn't know about the break ins before they happened, that at the end of nearly ten years of litigation, out a single word of silent coup or secret agenda was retracted.
In his two thousand and eight speech at the Nixon Library, heralded journalist James Rosen answered the question of who he thought directed the Watergate break in.
Speaker 11Who ordered Watergate, then John Dean, according to the evidence that I developed and the research that I conducted, is the most logical answer for that question.
Speaker 1If this prevailing theory is correct, it means John Dene ordered the initial Watergate break in to exploit his knowledge of the DNC's use of the prostitution ring, and then after the ring hit the newspapers, he ordered the second break in to conceal his fiance's connection to the ring, and he did it with the CIA monitoring the entire operation.
Speaker 5Allegedly, after the five burglars were arrested, there was no investigation as to why they committed the break in.
They were caught red handed.
The reason why seemed evident the Nixon reelection committee wanted political dirt on their opponent.
Hours after John dene canceled that get out of the country order, he met with Nixon's close adviser John Erlickman and told him that G.
Gordon Lyddy was involved in the break in.
A day later, Dean met with the reelection committee and reportedly informed them that Lyddy assured him that his team would not say a word, but they needed their legal expenses covered.
The legal fees were paid by the reelection team.
At the time, the payment wasn't thought to be inappropriate.
The families caught up in the affair were suffering.
It was dispersed for humanitarian reasons.
In the wake of the arrest, Nixon's inner circle didn't want to ask the director of the reelection Committee, John Mitchell, if he was involved, because that would pull the White House into the affair, but Nixon's Chief of Staff Bob Haldeman did approach Mitchell and suggested that if something embarrassing was likely to service about the break in, maybe it was best he resigned before the information came out.
Just two weeks after the arrest John Mitchell resigned from the re election Committee.
President Nixon called on his new Attorney general to perform a full investigation into the break in.
Howard Hunt and G.
Gordon Liddy were both indicted.
John Deane finagled his way into observing the FBI investigation and periodically gave status updates to Nixon's inner circle on how the investigation was progressing.
He also provided the information to the Defense Council.
As the summer of nineteen seventy two came to a close.
In the eyes of the investigators, the break in was isolated to the re election Committee.
Although embarrassing for the White House, it did not reach into the Oval Office.
On September fifteenth, nineteen seventy two, John Deane met with President Nixon for the very first time.
Nixon's Chief of Staff Haldeman, joined the meeting.
Dean met with the President to update him on the progress of the instigation into the break in.
The consensus in the room was that it was good that Hunt and Liddy were indicted.
Speaker 11Five plus the MO guy.
Speaker 2On that's good that that.
Speaker 11Takes the end off my one.
Speaker 5John Dene told them that the investigation was taking up more resources than the investigation into JFK's assassination.
Speaker 3The retort would have.
Speaker 12Been, again, they are really alarmed.
Speaker 5Nixon's chief of staff expressed that he couldn't believe how big this quote silly ass damn thing had gotten.
President Nixon agreed.
He recalled that his campaign plane was bugged in nineteen sixty eight by the FBI on order of President Johnson.
He said that if it weren't for the fact that LBJ ordered it, he'd use it to his advantage, but he decided against it because it would have negatively reflected on both the former president and the FBI.
John Deane gave his assessment of the state of the Watergate situation.
He said, quote, I think that I can say that fifty four days from now, not a thing will come crashing down to our surprise.
In other words, in John Dene's estimation, by election day nineteen seventy two, the pitfalls of the Watergate affair would be behind them.
But John Dene's prediction wouldn't age.
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In John Dene's estimation, by election day nineteen seventy two, the pitfalls of the Watergate affair would be behind them.
But John Dene's prediction wouldn't age well.
On election Day, Nixon, of course, won in a historic landslide.
A few months later, on January thirtieth, nineteen seventy three, just days after Nixon announced the end of the Vietnam War, the Watergate burglars were convicted.
It would have been understandable if people closely watching the case believe that the Watergate fiasco was coming to a close.
The prosecutors presented the case to Judge John Sirica, stating that G.
Gordon Lyddy was the mastermind and that there were no higher ups involved in the break in.
That should have been the end of the affair, but Judge had something different in mind.
Washington Post reporter Bob Woodward would later reflect on how his newspaper impacted Judge Serrica's decision making on the case.
Speaker 13And I think where there was real impact was with two subscribers the Washington Post.
The first was Judge Sirrica, who was trying the Watergate burglars, and in his courtroom they had the Watergate burglars and Howard Hunt Gordon Letty, the operational commanders, and they presented the prosecutors presented the case saying Gordon Letty's the mastermind.
No higher ups are involved.
And Judge Sirrica is reading in the Washington Post quite regularly that higher ups are involved.
And I talked to him many years later about this, and he said when he saw that, he then cranked up his questioning of the burglars, and in fact he threatened twenty five years sent if they didn't start cooperating.
Speaker 5John Sirica was looking to use the Watergate case to increase his profile.
He warned Liddy, Hunt and the burglars that if they didn't plead guilty to everything, he'd send them to jail for the rest of their lives.
Judge Sirrica played it smart.
He postponed their sentencing for roughly two months, hoping someone would crack and help expand the case.
To the Oval Office to help ensure the investigation wouldn't end with his sentencing, Judge Sirica called for the Senate to investigate the White House's involvement in the Watergate break in.
A week later, the Democrat controlled Senate responded.
Speaker 14The Senate tonight voted seventy seven to nothing to establish a select committee to investigate alleged political espionage in last year's election campaign that includes the Watergate bugging case.
The committee will be headed by North Carolina Democrat Sam Irvin.
Speaker 5That's when the networks began to cover the scandal full time.
The Democrat senator leading the Select Committee, sam Irvin, was a segregationist.
He hoped to create a show trial.
He just needed someone from Nixon's camp to create the drama.
Speaker 1As sentencing day approached, Howard Hunt began to crack.
A few months earlier, his wife died in a plane crash, leaving him with four children, one with special needs.
At the time, he was fifty four years old and he was facing the rest of his life in prison, so Hunt began to lean on the Nixon re election committee.
A week before sentencing, Hunt's lawyer contacted the chief desk operator of the cover up, John Dean, and demanded seventy five thousand for legal fees and another fifty thousand for walk around money for his family.
Dean called President Nixon's closest adviser, John Erlickman, and informed him of Hunt's demand.
Erlickman reportedly responded saying, quote sounds like blackmail to me.
Erlickman suggested John Dene call the former director of the Election Committee, John Mitchell.
This was not a White House issue.
It was a re election committee concerned with the sentencing just two days away, and no doubt, feeling that the walls were closing in on his cover up operation, John Dene asked for a meeting with President Nixon.
Speaker 12The reason I thought we ought to talk to Sony is because in our conversations I have the impression that you don't know everything I know, and it makes it very difficult for you to make judgments that if only you could make.
Speaker 9On some of these things.
Speaker 1And I thought that Nixon interjected wondering if they shouldn't unravel something not going to give you.
Speaker 12My overall first and I think that there's no doubt about the seriousness or problem works we've got.
We have a cancer within close to the presidency.
Speaker 15It's growing.
Speaker 12It's growing daily.
It's a compounding.
It grows geometrically.
Now because of the compounds, it sucks.
That'll be clear if I claimed you know some of the details.
Speaker 1Nixon was about to get the full scope of what John dene and the reelection team had done.
But what President Nixon didn't know at the time was that he was speaking to the man who was going to end his presidency.
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Speaker 2What did the president know and when did he know it?
Speaker 16I made my mistakes, but in all of my years of public life, I have never profited from public service.
I've earned every cent, and in all of my years of public life, I have never obstructed justice.
And I think too that I could say that in my years of public life that I welcome this kind of examination because people have got to know whether or not their president's a crook.
Well, I'm not a crook.
I've earned everything I've got but the butterfield.
Speaker 8Are you aware of the installation of any listening devices and the oval office of the President?
Speaker 12I was aware of listening devices, Yes, sir.
Speaker 15President Nixon has not yet responded to the sledgehammer decision of the Supreme Court today which ruled that he must immediately turn over tapes of sixty four presidential conversation.
Speaker 11What you would see is subtle but significant changes in witnesses testimony from closed door to three days later when they go on television.
Speaker 10John Dene pulled off an incredible hoax, and he pulled it off on the Watergate Committee, and he pulled it off on the courts, and he pulled it off on the American people, and in a sense, he erased the election.
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