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Famboogie 048: #MeToo Two (Part Two)

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Speaker 1

This is Red Pilled America listening to Red Pilled America's famboogie.

Keep an eye out for our Cracker Barrel episode that's coming up.

You're not going to want to miss this.

Nobody has talked about what we have found on that brand and why this story blew That story blew up so big over the course the last couple of weeks that I'll be coming out in the next couple days.

Keep an eye out for that.

We I want to continue this conversation that we are having about the crisis in alternative media right now and how the people are just getting completely consumed with clicks.

And we're also trusting all of these figures and they don't haven't earned trust, They're just good at the social media game.

This story just broke where you have all of these huge social media influence guys like Ryan Fournier, Defiant ls on Twitter, ex.

Matt Wallace, Dcino.

These are people with million plus followers, okay, or and also approaching million followers.

I'm just gonna read one of these posts for you guys now.

This one's from Ryan Fournier.

It says India has always had Trump Trump's back.

President Trump's back if India made a fortune off Russian oil.

Their margins would show it.

They don't.

Refining margins dropped after twenty twenty two, even as imports rose.

Meanwhile, Western oil firms tripled profits.

Facts over mainstream spin.

So basically, all of these accounts started posting this pro India message and you'd see it with one account, and then you saw it with another account, and then another account, and then another account.

These major major social media conservative social media influencers start pushing the Trump administration to drop the tariff on India because India is purchasing oil from Russia.

So now it's come out that they were actually paid to do this and they didn't divulge it.

And how do we know this Well, Defiant L's, which is a pretty big account on x a million point six followers.

Speaker 2

One point six million followers.

Speaker 1

Okay, those of you that aren't familiar with Defiant L's.

What they do is is they find somebody that posts something and if it's like a bad post and L is a loss.

Basically, when someone takes an L, it's a loss, and they'll he'll post these people's posts with a big L on it and say like they are the the L of the week or the L of the day.

Well, he admitted that he had posted this on behalf of India by saying this, he posts, the L is on me This time.

I made an honest mistake and I should have made a better choice before posting.

I take full responsibility.

Once again, he posted about India.

He said, India has always welcomed Trump with open arms.

Hitting India with tariffs over oil won't punish Moscow.

It'll raise prices, destabilize markets, and help China fill the gap.

Use leverage where it works.

So he's basically pushing the Trump administration to remove the tariffs on India.

This is a paid post and he didn't tell anybody about it.

Speaker 2

Yeah, I like a response that he got.

Nick Sorder said in response to that post, he said, Oops, I accidentally took money from a foreign lobby and attempted to undermine the United States of America.

My bad, Guys, give me a break.

Speaker 1

This is what you're seeing time and time again where these conservative media influencers are getting paid for posts.

This isn't like they're wearing a jacket by Gucci and they're trying to sell a jacket.

This is trying to push political policy and not divulging it to the public.

I mean people that do lobbying for foreign governments.

There's laws against that.

And these people are taking this money and it's probably sizable amount of money.

We're talking about thousands, maybe tens of thousands of dollars.

When you're talking about you have one point six million followers.

Who's paying these people?

Who's pushing it?

Is it the Indian government?

It's obviously something tied to the Indian government or somebody somehow that benefits from Indian government policy.

It's this is the problem right now that we are seeing with alternative media.

And I always try to ask myself, like, how do you who do you trust now in this environment?

And I think ultimately there needs to be something done on this social in this social media space where it notes where these people are from right now, these accounts they get huge, and then you end up learning that some of them don't even live in the United States, like that Ian Miles Chong guy, he's never even been to the United States.

He's you know, million plus followers constantly talking about American politics.

Why and who's paying these people?

The whole idea of free speech in the United States.

The reason why the founders put it in place was for American citizens to be able to work through issues and present ideas and make arguments valid arguments.

And now you have all of these kind of foreign entities coming into the United States tapping into these social media influencers that, by the way, we don't even know who these people are.

They gain massive followings and then they start to try to influence our politics here.

It's a major, major problem.

This is not what our founders had in store.

Speaker 2

I agree.

I mean, who is defiant El's Do we have any idea who that is?

Speaker 1

No?

I don't think we do.

I mean we know guys like DC Dreno.

Speaker 2

Yeah, yeah, But that's that's a big problem.

Speaker 1

It's a major It means to be fixed.

But here's the thing.

DC Drena is just gonna start posting tomorrow.

He's just going to ignore the whole thing and he's just going to keep moving along.

That guy is the biggest grifter social media guy that there is out there.

But he gets invited to the White House because, you know, if you've got if you have a huge amount of social media followers, the Trump administration tends to like that as long as you're nice to them, But what is he doing posting this India stuff and not divulging it.

He's posting the same message that all of these people are posting at the very same time.

Now, how do we, like, what do we do with our audience?

Like, how does how do we guide our audience into how to deal with these kinds of things, because it's not easy.

We're pretty savvy media people, and we're pretty in tune with what's going on media wise.

And even I was shocked by this.

As much as a grifter as I think d C.

Dreno is, I was very surprised to see him as I kind of swept up into this and this is this has happened before.

This isn't the only time this has happened.

Oh god, this is happening multiple times over the course of the last couple of years.

I think that their needs me and it's how these.

Speaker 2

Guys are making money.

By the way, a lot of these guys too, like they're in with a lot of the you know, the popular kids in the Trump administration.

You know, I know d C.

Draino is very very good friends with Anna Pauline A Luna.

Speaker 1

I have a feeling that some of these people are tied in with the intelligence community one hundred.

I mean, it just feels like it to me.

They get their their social media followings up to a certain size, and there's like these dueling intelligency agency assets that are out there, And I didn't like to enter into that conspiracy theory, but now I'm starting to understand that argument, and I'm starting to see it more and more, and I'm really at a loss with how to guide the public on this kind of a thing, because it is eating up alternative media.

It is becoming as bad as the legacy media because they have power now, they've got they've reached to a point where they have the numbers, they have the eyeballs, they have the size, and they are just as untrustworthy as the legacy media.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Well, I mean this is really one of the big problems with the social media age is that people are just getting these very very quick hits and no one has to take the time to do any research, and no one knows how to do research anymore.

People just take what they see at their word, and you cannot do that.

You have to still yourself do your own research or go to the people that are putting out some long form content.

Speaker 1

And doing deep dives, and you have the I mean, that's it's really been the problem I think with the alternative media landscape is that you have these people that are great at playing the social media game, but they're not good at research.

They don't have integrity, they don't know how to dig deep into a subject.

And you know, I saw all this stuff on woke cracker Barrel over the course of the last couple of weeks, and some of it was valid.

You know, there's some kind of rainbow stuff that was out there and then some kind of time, but they didn't provide any context to it.

Why would Cracker Barrel even have some of those things?

And did they start to drop some of those things And was it something that they put out there to the public or was it something that they were doing behind the scenes for their employees because they had some issues with that community.

We're going to get into that in our next Cracker Barrel RPA episode.

The point I'm trying to get at is what these social media figures do is is they grab the lowest hanging fruit and then they get you outraged, and then they end up using that influence that they these followers that they get through this, through this outrage and they monetize it.

They monetize it by tapping into some kind of Indian money now and it's been other kinds of spaces as well to influence you.

I want to get into another story that has just kind of developed.

This a little bit of an update.

We talked about this last year with the Lauren Chen story where in September of last year she was raided by the FBI for allegedly having ties to Russian money and trying to influence the election in twenty twenty four.

This is another example of this kind of influence campaigns that are going on behind the scenes.

We're going to get into that right after the break.

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So we want to go on and talk about this Lauren Chen's story that was pretty shocking last year.

Those are you guys that don't remember in September early September of twenty twenty four.

Lauren Chen, who used to go by the YouTube name Roaming Millennial.

Speaker 2

Yeah, when she got her start, she used to make videos on YouTube and that was her moniker.

Speaker 1

She's a Canadian YouTuber and had been doing it for some time.

Speaker 2

And by the way, Lauren Chen is not her real name.

Speaker 1

What's her real name?

Speaker 2

Her real name is Lauren You sometam okay?

Speaker 1

Interesting?

Always I think that's interesting when someone changes their name.

Speaker 2

Is your name Mailli Patrick Curleche?

Speaker 1

It always has been, always will be.

It's one of the most incredible names possible.

Speaker 2

It's the best name that anybody's ever heard heard.

Speaker 1

Have you ever heard of a Krelchi?

Speaker 2

Only you?

Speaker 1

Thank you?

Speaker 2

Yeah, you are the best carelcha I've ever met.

Speaker 1

She comes over here to the United States and is creating content, kind of conservative content, and all of a sudden she comes into this money and she starts this company called Tenant Media.

I should say that she was also a contributor at Blaze Media for some time.

She was also a contributor for RT Russian television.

According to and we'll get to that part in a second.

So she starts this tenant media company and starts paying money to pretty big influencers, kind of Trump friendly media people.

Dave Rubin was one of the people.

Tim Poole was another people.

I mean, we're talking about some of the biggest YouTubers that are out there.

Benny Johnson also kind of a big media guy.

And so I remember seeing this and I'm like, how is this young woman creating this media company and paying and putting together these very big players and we don't know kind of where this money's coming from.

And it was just kind of a it just caught my eye.

If you've been in media for any amount of time, you start to understand with the way the structure is, and when money starts to flow in, especially to a young person like this, you start to think, oh, what's going on here, something's happening here.

Speaker 2

So this is clear that she had funding, big funding.

Speaker 1

Yes, yes, but where is that funding coming?

Speaker 2

Where is it coming from?

Speaker 1

Well she gets rated in early September of twenty twenty.

Speaker 2

Four, September four, I believe yes.

Speaker 1

And I'm just going to read an article here that was written by a pretty good journalist.

His name is Andy Nigo.

He's the guy that kind of broke all the Antifa stuff.

Andy No, I think it is I think the g silent.

This is what he wrote back then.

The founders of Tenant Media, the right wing media startup accused by the USDOJ of illegally taking nearly ten million dollars from Russian state actors to launder Russian influence, were rated on Wednesday, as the indictment was unsealed, according to sources who spoke exclusively with the post millennial This is Andy Knows website.

The sources, who are not authorized to publicly speak on record, said the authorities confiscated the electronic devices belonging to Tenant Media owners Lauren Chen also known as Lauren you sum Tom and her husband Liam Donovan around the time the Biden Harris administration announced the indictment on Wednesday.

This is once again in September twenty twenty four.

I don't think the owners had any idea about the investigation.

One source said, the raid just came out of nowhere.

Sources said the couple, who are Canadian nationals living in Tennessee, had recently returned from a trip abroad.

So the story goes on and basically kind of highlights what's in the indictment, and it was very detailed.

They had emails, they had chats in kind of those kinds of work software kind of programs where you could kind of see that it seemed like, according to the Biden DOJ that she was kind of hiding who the financers were.

There was a point where kind of they accused her of handing out a fake bio of the financewers because these guys were asking questions.

Dave Rubin and Timpole and these guys were asking questions like, well, who are these funders?

Because that's when you're in media and you have somebody that's willing to pay you a premium to create content that, by the way, wasn't even doing that well on YouTube.

They weren't getting a lot of views.

You start to ask questions like, wait a minute, what's going on here?

Who's paying me this money?

Like how can they afford to do this?

Well, this thing blows up in September and immediately all of these Trump friendly journalists are being accused of being having Russia influence within their reporting, within their content.

Now, the indictment says clearly that these people were unaware that this money was coming from Russia.

Speaker 2

And when we say these people were talking about Benny Johnson, Tim Pool, you know they had no idea that the money was potentially coming from Russia.

Speaker 1

Yes, I will say, having been in media for a while, when money like that is coming your direction, you need to be very diligent and ask a lot of questions on where that money is coming from.

And perhaps they didn't much diligence.

They were happy with the paycheck that was coming in and so they were.

Speaker 2

Probably happy to look the other way, let's be honest.

Speaker 1

Yes, So anyways, but they were The indictment clearly stated that they were unaware that this money was coming from some kind of a Russian source.

So there's this story now that the Biden DOJ could use to once again bring up the Russian collusion story during an election cycle.

It didn't stick, but it looked like from an observer's standpoint, from like a expert, I, it looked like this was kind of a honeypot kind of a thing where you got Trump media dirty right before the election, and it kind of makes it's a storyline that fits into a narrative that's already out there, kind of a Russian election collusion kind of a thing.

Well, Lauren surprisingly just went completely silent, did not say a thing.

And now you have all of these people that were getting paid by her and that were a part of this tenet.

Media were kind of out there to kind of fed for themselves, to kind of speak to the public, because now they're looking like they're part of some kind of Russian you know, scam.

I don't think there was any evidence that they were being directed on content, but the theories that are out there was that this process was being used to dirty them up and to have a storyline that made it look like Russia was trying to collude with Trump supporters to reelect him.

Okay, she goes silent.

Well, this last within the last twenty four hours, she puts out a statement for the first time, and the statement was insufficient in my estimation, because it didn't really answer the core allegations.

Here's what she had to say.

I'm just going to read part of it.

This past year has brought trials I never imagined possible.

There is so much I have to say, but for now I will do my best to answer questions.

I know many of you have been wondering what happened.

Then she goes on this long ti rade and doesn't really explain where this money came from or any of that kind of a thing.

On September fourth, she goes on.

On September fourth, twenty twenty four, two months before the general election, my husband, two year old, and I were awoken early in the morning by thirty armed FBI agents about to break down our door.

At the time, I was entering my fourth month of pregnancy.

The FBI spent the next four hours searching our house and interrogating us about our company, Tenant, which licensed mostly right leaning conservative content.

They took all of our electronics and seized our assets.

This included our life savings and revenue that had nothing to do with Tenant, such as payments from contracts with The Blaze and TPUSA.

That same day, then Attorney General Merrick Garland published a press release which essentially labeled Tenant a Russian propaganda operation intent on subverting American elections.

The Department of Justice also unsealed an indictment on two Russian individuals that worked in conjunction with our company, but were not in US custody or even in the country.

This lengthy indictment of these individuals was largely focused on Tenant though most though most of the information provided was false, inaccurate, or out of context.

But the problem with that statement that she states right there is that she doesn't explain what was false, inaccurate, or out of context.

She just states it like a blanket statement.

Speaker 2

Yeah, and nowhere in her statement does she ever say where the funding came from, nor does she deny that it came from the Russians.

Speaker 1

Yes, there were also claims made concerning issues outside of our nonlge and we regard those allegations with extreme skepticism.

Garland paint attendant as a covert Russian propaganda mouthpiece of our conservative leaning talent as unwitting propagandists.

The application was that the Russian government was astroturfing support for President Donald Trump in the upcoming election, and that his conservative and right wing supporters online and in independent media were merely behind them behind him because they were paid to be.

This notion was categorically untrue.

So she kind of goes on and then mentions her baby and that her baby basically was born here in the United States, but now they were kind of forced to leave the US because their visa was revoked.

And now they're back at Canada.

Speaker 2

They were guessed in our.

Speaker 1

Country they were Canadians.

Speaker 2

They're Canadians, They're not Americans.

They're Canadians that are reporting on American politicans.

Speaker 1

Yes, in the United States.

They end up are now forced to go back to Canada because their work visa was revoked, and so now they're trying, they're working to get back home.

Basically is what she's saying.

I think you are home, miss roaming millennial.

I'm tired of these foreign people coming into this country and talking about and impacting and influencing American politics.

And she did not sufficiently answer this question.

She did not go into what actually happened.

She made blanket statements.

She's now speaking about it.

So if she's allowed to speak about it now because she claimed of the course of the last year, she was unable to talk about it because she was worried that her baby, her kids were going to be taken away from her.

Okay, that's a valid claim.

Yeah, definitely a valid claim.

But now you're talking about it, and now you're making blanket statements that these these allegations were false.

Well, Andy called her out on this on.

Speaker 2

This topic, which I thought I did want to say, though, so you know now that all of a sudden done, no criminal try charges were filed against her, her husband, or the company, and the legal investigation has been closed.

Speaker 1

I don't know that at that last part, if that's true truly.

Speaker 2

Well, that's what Lauren says in herself.

Speaker 1

Okay, well this is what Andy says.

Andy nego, Lauren, you have released a statement after twelve months.

At the time of the indictment last year, many people who worked with and supported you were left somewhat blindsided by your failure to issue even a generic statement of denial or to say you'd address the issue soon.

I think it was horrific that YouTube would terminate all of your accounts without you even being charged with a crime.

I agree with that.

By the way, I hope you are given a fair chance at appealing, and I want to state publicly that I have met you and interacted with you on a personal capacity.

I found you and your husband to be lovely people.

With that said, your current statement doesn't address some important matters.

Can you address the alleged evidence in the indictment and say which the arts are false and inaccurate.

The indictment includes quotes alleged to be from you and others in the business, detailing a conspiracy to take foreign state money from Russia to fund the US based media company.

The indictment is extremely detailed, with dates, alleged quotes, individuals, alleged bank transfers, and an alleged plan to mislead some of the talent that was recruited.

The investigation may have been closed according to you, but the case remains open and the charges are still active against the two who were charged.

The DOJ has not motioned for the case to be dismissed and has not retracted its allegations in the indictment.

However, the two charged will likely never be brought to justice since Russia doesn't extradite its citizens to the US.

Speaker 2

Really quickly, I want to add, this is all fine and dandy.

She releases a statement, okay, after a year, But here's the thing.

She didn't really just release a statement.

What she she did is she launched a gofund me.

Yes, okay, that's what this whole statement is about.

Yes, she gives a statement and it ends with the gofund me.

Basically, I need money for my legal fees and because we have not been able to recoup any of the money that the DOJ took from us, and we haven't been able to make any money.

So here's my gofund me.

Can you guys give me money?

Speaker 1

Yes, So she has one hundred and fifty thousand dollars goal.

I think she's reached about fifteen thousand dollars right now.

Speaker 2

I have a problem with that.

Speaker 1

Here's the thing.

I mean.

I wish her well.

I wish her well in Canada, and I wish that and I hope that she does not speak on American politics.

I hope she focuses on her country.

You come into the United States, you're taking money from allegedly taking money from some Russian unknown figures, and then you are hiring well known American media people and dirtying them all up.

And then this is you make a statement a year later and now you're trying to back into the United States no thank you, by the way.

Speaker 2

And calling it her home because her daughter, her anchor baby was born.

Speaker 1

Exactly and that's still it's an ancorbaby, Okay, I'm sorry.

It's not just something that gets applied to illegal Mexican immigrants, all right.

It gets applied to Canadians that come in here and plant a baby and now say they want to come back here to try to come home home home.

Okay, she's a Canadian.

Why are is it that all of these Canadians are Brits.

Why are they talking about American politics and getting involved in American politics?

And then in her case, apparently it looks as if her company was funded by some kind of Russian money somehow.

This is a crisis that we are seeing in conservative media and in the influencer space within conservative media is that we don't have an infrastructure set up to where we can ensure credibility and we can ensure that these people aren't grifted, and that there's a filter that wipes away these grifters and throw these grifters out to the fringe.

All the grifters are front and center at the highest level of the alt media space, and there's nothing kind of vetting them.

It's very frustrating time right now, it is.

And you have all these people now that are coming out in support of this woman.

I'm very surprised they didn't try to call this a Jewish operation on her, because it seems like everybody that is supporting her anti Israel.

Speaker 2

I agree with that, And listen, I don't doubt that the corrupt Biden DOJ saw these two Russians that were connected to Tenant and took the opportunity to muddy up a bunch of conservatives.

Speaker 1

It could have been the DOJ.

It could have been the Biden administration that set this up.

It could very well have been that.

But here's the case.

That doesn't matter exactly exactly.

Speaker 2

But here's the thing.

Most people can't see past that.

No, but you and I, you know, we're long in the tooth.

We see way past that.

Speaker 1

Yes, of course, you got people like her.

You got people like Glenn Greenwald, who is an American but he's broadcasting from Brazil.

He lives in Brazil, and he every day speaks about American politics and talks about our immigration policy and goes at Trump for trying to deport some of these illegal alien criminals from Brazil.

You got her coming in from Canada.

You got the Viva Fry who's also in Canada.

You have several of these kinds of British people that come over here and talk about American politics.

Why don't you stay home and fix your country?

Why are you coming into our country and basically just treating us like an economic zone, and you know, trying to influence our politics in a political system that you can't even vote within.

Missus, Lauren Chen.

You know, I think that the reason why people are rallying behind her is because she's a track she's beautiful, and she's a decent content maker.

Speaker 2

She's very talented, she's very smart.

But I don't like it.

In the go fund me, by the way, it's not a gofund me technically, it's the give sen go.

Yes, she has it's a picture of her and her two daughters, and she has covered the face of her older daughter and then the baby.

You see her full face, Like, why is she putting her kids in this picture?

Speaker 1

Yeah, I don't like that.

Speaker 2

As a mom, I'm not feeling this.

It's frustrating that where did the money come from?

Tell us where the money came from?

Why did you not answer those questions?

Speaker 1

And why were you trying to conceal it?

Yes, you know, because it was very clearly you were accused in the indictment of trying to conceal where that money came from.

Speaker 2

And why are all of these American right wing influencers coming out in support of her.

Now, I don't know what is going on here.

Speaker 1

I think it has to do with her anti Israel kind of positions.

Those are the people that end up coming out to support her, and they tend to.

Speaker 2

Stay home, stay in Canada.

We wish you well, go do your thing over there, talk about Canada, fix their politics.

Speaker 1

Yes, that's it's that's your that's your home, that's your.

Speaker 2

Home country, that's your home countryume some.

Speaker 1

Yeah, something needs to happen.

We have been a broken record on this issue when it comes to this, this this alternative media crisis that we are having right now and the credibility crisis that we're having right now.

We are building an infrastructure of a of a media outfit that is just as bad as the legacy media.

You cannot trust most of these people.

There's a few good guys out there.

Andy Is is a great reporter in certain areas, that Michael Tracy guy is a good reporter in certain areas.

They're like they're they're sprinkled throughout different spots.

But it's just something that is consuming and there's nobody out there to kind of filter this issue.

Speaker 2

Yeah, but I'll tell you what though, if either Andy or Michael Tracy if a video comes out of them licking a foot and the sopping up spit.

Speaker 1

You're talking about, Yes, I'm out as well.

Speaker 2

Okay, I'll be out.

Speaker 1

I'm out as well too.

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