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The Fighter (Part Six)

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Previously on Red Pilled.

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America, McNamara decided to commission a report.

It was a harshly anti war document.

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They kept personal copies in the top secret safe in the Washington offices of the Rand Corporation.

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Ellsberg began smuggling the Pentagon study out of the safe at the Rand Corporation.

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The New York Times began publishing top secret sensitive details and documents.

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The Supreme Court today ruled that the New York Times and the Washington Post may continue to publish the secret Pentagon papers.

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People have got to be put to the porch for this sort of thing.

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That no one has proved that the Republicans are behind the break in.

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The voters have returned to President Nixon to the White House by our landslide.

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Why are Hollywood and the media so obsessed with Nixon?

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Welcome to Red Pilled America.

We're at part six of our series of episodes entitled The Fighter.

You've probably heard Part five, but if you haven't, stop and go back and listen from the beginning.

We're looking for the answer to the question why are the media and Hollywood so obsessed with Richard Nixon?

By telling the often ignored story of his life.

So to pick up where we left off.

By the end of nineteen seventy two, President Nixon had brought a sense of normalcy back to America.

He cooled two decades of tension with China and Russia, and perhaps most importantly, the Vietnam War was on the verge of ending The American people rewarded him on election day by giving him one of the biggest landslides in American history.

He won forty nine states, losing only in Ted Kennedy's Massachusetts and the swamp of Washington, d c.

And what made his lopsided win even more impressive was that there were eleven million new youngsters in the voting booth, carab the twenty sixth Amendment.

As he opened his second term in January nineteen seventy three, he immediately delivered for this new constituency.

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Good evening.

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I have asked for this radio and television time tonight for the purpose of announcing that we today have concluded an agreement to end the war and bring peace with honor in Vietnam and in Southeast Asia, at.

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Twelve thirty Paris.

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Time to day, January twenty three, nineteen seventy three.

The Agreement on ending the War and restoring peace in Vietnam was initialed by Doctor Henry Kissinger on behalf of the United States and Special Advisor Lee Doctor on behalf of the Democratic Republic of Vietnam.

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Richard Milhouse Nixon, the Fighter from your Belinda brought an end to this seemingly endless war, a deadly war initiated and escalated by two Democrat presidents.

America had a leader for the ages, but behind the scenes, something was brewing.

His historic win was quietly under attacked by a powerful enemy that would come to be known as the deep State.

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When Daniel Ellsberg leaked the top secret Pentagon papers in Ia teen seventy one, President Nixon was deeply concerned that America would no longer have an orderly government, and he looked to write the ship.

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I told Holoman the day, and I also told the cabinet, and I told him Mitchela, We're going to fight all out in this thing.

The point is that the Elsburg case, however it comes out, is going to get all through this government among the intellectual types and the people that have no loyalties, the idea that they will be the ones that will determine what's good for this country.

That's right, Odnam that they weren't elected and they're not going to determine it that way.

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President Nixon saw Daniel Ellsberg's leak as a security breach of the highest magnitude.

On many levels.

It had real life and death consequences.

The Pentagon Papers portrayed a weakening America to the Vietcong enemy, a display that emboldened the enemy's resolve.

American soldiers, no doubt died because of the leak.

The FBI also informed Nixon's team that the documents were given to the Soviet embassy.

This was a troubling possibility.

If Moscow had both an encrypted cast of a document and its original unencrypted version as published in the Pentagon Papers, the Soviet Union would be able to crack America's encryption code.

If this wasn't enough, Elsberg could cause further damage.

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Elsberg had access to fifty four thousand pages of other classified documents because he was a consultant for the Rand Corporation out in Santa Monica.

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That's Jeff Shepherd, author of The Nixon Conspiracy.

Jeff is the leading expert on Watergate and was a one time member of the Nixon Watergate defense team.

He recalls Nixon's inner circle view on Daniel Elsberg.

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At the time, he had been sneaking the forty eight volumes of the Pentagon Papers out at night making photocopies, and they didn't know what else he had done.

The Pentagon Papers league was deemed to be the most significant national security breach in modern history, so they were scrambling to figure out what else could he do.

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After the Supreme Court gave the New York Times and others the right to publish top secret documents like the Pentagon Papers, the security crisis escalated because the decision sent a message to other government leakers.

Perhaps there'd be no real consequences for leaking top secret documents.

President Nixon believed that Daniel Elsberg had to be stopped and destroyed to send a message to any further leakers.

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People have got to be put to the torture for this sort of thing.

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This is terrible.

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The problem was Nixon had limited options.

He couldn't turn to the media, they were busy making a martyr out of Elsburg, and perhaps even more surprisingly, he couldn't get help from the FBI.

One of FBI Director Jay Edgar Hoover's best friends was Daniel Elsberg's father in law, Lewis Marx.

Marx was a successful toy maker that gave Hoover toys to distribute to kids at Christmas time, so Hoover refused to investigate Elsberg.

In fact, when an FBI agent attempted to interview Elsbrog's father in law.

Hoover tried to demote the agent.

The Nixon administration was on its own, so the president turned to his White House Domestic Affairs advisor, John Erlikman, with the directive find the leaks and plug them.

As a result, the White House Special Investigations Unit was formed, but the team would come to be known by a different name again, Jeff Shephard.

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Now when the Pentagon papers laked, the White House created this unit to stop lenkes, called the Plumbers because they were supposed to stop lakes.

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The Plumbers quietly began working in the summer of nineteen seventy one.

John Erlickman would periodically give Nixon updates on their efforts.

They worked to find any co conspirators and were able to plant negative Elsburg stories with friendly journalists to combat the media's martyr treatment.

The Plumbers also scanned newspaper reports looking for traces of leaked information.

By the end of the year, their work began to taper off, but not before finding a startling leak that needed to be put At the time, in December nineteen seventy one, Nixon was working privately with his National security advisor Henry Kissinger to forge his foreign policy in Vietnam, China, and the Soviet Union.

In doing so, Nixon kept the establishment in the dark about his decision making, including the Joint chiefs of Staff housed at the Pentagon.

The Joint chiefs of Staff are the most senior military leaders from the Department of Defense, and they were angry that Nixon was executing foreign policy without their guidance, so they took action.

In a stunning move, the plumbers learned that to bypass their isolation, the Joint chiefs of Staff began spying on the president.

For over a year, a yowman from their White House liaison office was stealing documents from Henry Kissinger's briefcase and burn bags.

He'd then feed them up the chain of command to the highest levels of the Joint chiefs of Staff.

Then they'd leak select information to the press to force their influence on the president's foreign policy.

Was what's a startling discovery, But perhaps even more troubling was that Nixon's deputy National Security Advisor, General Haig, was implicated in the spying operation.

You may remember General Haig from a previous episode.

He was the one that first brought attention to the importance of the Pentagon Paper's leap to Nixon, also.

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That trist in the world are very significant.

This goddamn New York Times expos of the most highly classified documents of the war.

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What was Nixon to do?

The Joint Chiefs were considered a Republican friendly institution.

If he attempted to prosecute the liaison spy, further investigation would ultimately lead to both the Joint Chiefs of Staff and even reach all the way into the White House with Alexander Haigh.

There were already tensions between Nixon's inner circle and the Pentagon over the Pentagon Paper's leaks.

Prosecutions would surely exacerbate the rift with the crucial military department, So Nixon's Attorney General, John Mitchell came up with solution.

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Her mind before fighting at which stopt operations here.

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To Mitchell, the most important thing was to end the spying operation, so he suggested that the President close the Joint Chiefs of Staff Liaison office.

By doing so, the Pentagon would be put on notice if the White House was aware of their spying operation.

That would avoid the upheaval of prosecutions.

Nixon agreed and immediately ordered the closure of the liaison office.

He was choosing the best way out of a bad situation, but something was clear.

President Nixon was surrounded by the d C swamp.

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By the end of nineteen seventy one, the activity of the Plumber's unit had quietly, perhaps mysteriously, tapered off.

It was around this time that Nixon went on a remarkable run of historic events, venturing to China, then the Soviet Union.

But shortly after his return from Moscow, he was hit with some surprising news.

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The Democratic National Committee is trying to solve a spy mystery.

He began before dawn Saturday, when five incruiters were captured by police inside the offices of the Committee in Washington.

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On June seventeenth, nineteen seventy two, the news broke that five burglars were arrested for breaking into the Democrat National Committee's headquarters at the Watergate Complex in Washington, d C.

From the outset, there was no question that Nixon's re election committee were involved somehow.

One of the five arrested was James McCord.

McCord was an ex CIA officer who was at the time working as the head of security for the Committee for the Reelection of the President, often mockingly referred to as Creep.

About three months before the break in, John Mitchell resigned as Attorney General to head the nineteen seventy two re election committee.

It was a familiar job to Mitchell, He'd led Nixon's first successful White House run.

When the break in hit the news, Mitchell spoke to the media.

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Neither the President, obviously, or anybody in the White House, or anybody in a and any of the committees working for the reelection of the President, have any responsibility for it, and therefore there's no reason why it should be a matter of concern to the American public.

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John Mitchell thought his remarks rang true.

The re election committee was completely separate from the White House.

Again, Jeff Shepherd, there's the White House.

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It's a physical place.

The White House compound includes not just the residents, but the West Wing and the old Executive office building.

It's all friends doaf heavily guarden Kitty cornered across the street from seventeenth in Pennsylvania Avenue, is an office building seventeen oh one Pennsylvania Avenue, that's where the campaign committee was, So people who were working on the campaign, even if they came from the White House staff, went across the street and reported for work in a physically separate building.

Now, most of the people working on the re election campaign either came from the White House or from the Department of Justice, because that's where Attorney General John Metschell was, But they weren't employees of the government, they were employees of the campaign.

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Also, the person who was the liaison between the White House and the re election Committee, a guy named John Dean, continually assured Nixon's inner circle that no one from the White House was involved in the break in.

By most accounts, the White House's inner circle were blindsided and confused by the break in.

As details emerged, something didn't smell right about the operation.

The five who were arrested all had some connection to the CIA.

The one re election committee staffer that was arrested, James McCord, was a former CIA agent, and the other four burglars were Cubans active in the anti Castro movement and were recruited to the team by a guy named E.

Howard Hunt, a former CIA officer.

The burglars were caught with several leads for law enforcement to investigate.

For one, they had a floor plan of the Democrat National Committee headquarters office layout on it was an X marked at a specific desk.

They also had what looked like a desk key and a hotel room key.

They searched the hotel room and found five thousand uncirculated one hundred dollars bills, sequentially numbered.

Within just a few days, they traced that cash to President Nixon's re election campaign.

The break in was quickly connected to Nixon's re election committee, which wasn't hard because one of the guys who was arrested was the head of security for Nixon's re election committee.

Six days after the break in, President Nixon met with his chief of staff, a guy named Bob Haldeman, and in that meeting, it's clear that Nixon was unaware of the break in before it happened, because he asked his chief of staff who was the a hole that orchestrated the Watergate break in, and he learned that it was a man named g.

Gordon Liddy.

If you didn't catch that, President Nixon said, he must be a little nuts.

I mean, he just isn't well screwed on?

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Is he?

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So just six days after the June nineteen seventy two watergate break in, Nixon learned that a man named G.

Gordon Liddy was possibly the guy that led the break in operation.

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Who was this G.

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Gordon Liddy character, Well, he was a member of the Plumbers again.

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Jeff Shepherd my boss, my immediate boss.

Bud Krogue was the head plumber, and Lyddy was the chief operating officer of the Plumbers.

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Lyddy being G.

Gordon Lyddy.

When the Plumbers were first formed in the summer of nineteen seventy one, Lyddy had just finished a stint working law enforcement at the Treasury Department with head plumber Bud Krug.

Lyddy was also a former FBI agent.

The Plumber team also included a lawyer named David Young and another guy named Howard Hunt, a twenty plus year veteran of the CIA.

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When G.

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Gordon Liddy joined the Plumber's team, their first order of business was investigating Daniel Elsberg.

Liddy would later reflect on why targeting Elsberg was so urgent.

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The FBI surveillance of the then Soviet embassy up on Sixteenth Street turned up the fact that somebody identity unknown had given the whole shooting match to the Soviet.

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Union, the whole shooting match being the Pentagon papers.

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Maybe it was Elsburg, Maybe it was somebody else.

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But we needed to know that.

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And as we explained earlier, the enemy could use the Pentagon papers to crack ENCRYPTI documents.

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And because we knew that Elsberg and his associates had taken out other stuff too, we didn't know what Elsburg had in addition to what he said he had.

We didn't know where he had its stashed, where he was keeping it.

We didn't know whether Elsburg was a romantic loaner of the left acting out of conscience the way he was being portrayed in the press, or whether he was in with the show with the KGB and had gone over to the other side.

And so it was important that we know that because he had additional stuff and we didn't know what he was going to do with it.

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So g.

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Gordon Lyddy and his plumber colleague Howard Hunt first turned to the FBI for insight on Ellsberg.

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So what we did was we checked with the FBI, what do we know about Elsberg?

Well, they said he has terminated the services of a psychiatrist named Fielding out in Beverly Hills, to whom he used to go.

But in spite of that fact, he still calls that doctor on the phone almost every day, discusses the more intimate details of his daily life with him, and we said to ourselves, well, if he's doing that, maybe he would discuss with the Good Doctor what else he's taken out of the rams safe where he's keeping it, whether he gave this stuff to the Soviet Union, what he intends to do with the stuff that he has, and the Good Doctor might have put it in the file.

So then we said to the FBI, get the doctor's files so we can check that.

And we of course also wanted to know one of the doctor's files so we can do a psychological profile Ondaniel Elsberg.

The FBI tried to get the information from the doctor, and the FBI failed because all they did was just say would give it to us please, and he said no.

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And that was it.

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Information from the FBI dried up because, as you recall, the FBI's director at the time, j Edgar Hoover, was close friends with Elsberg's father in law, making the FBI a dead end.

So the team turned to the CIA.

The plumbers asked the CIA to put together a psychological profile on Elsberg to figure out what he'd do next.

Again, g Gordon Liddy and.

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We had approached the CIA for a psychological profile.

They said, we'll give us your holdings on Elsburg and we did, which consisted really just of newspaper stories, and they came back with the psychological profile that we didn't think was very good, and they said, well, you know, garbage and garbage out.

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So they brainstormed for a bit.

The plumbers believed that the psychiatrist had some information about Elsberg's actions, both past and future, but there was only two options to retrieve it.

One was to get a search warrant, but that was a no go.

They didn't want to go to court and reveal national security sensitive information and at the time there was no PIZA court.

That's when g Gordon Lyddy and Howard Hunt came up with the second option again Jeff Shepherd.

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So they decided what they should do is go have a look at his files on Elsberg.

Now he wouldn't share them, so they hit upon this idea of going in surreptitiously.

Gordon says, look, we used to do this stuff all the time.

The FBI would go in, those were called black bag jobs.

The CIA would go in, those were called surreptitious entries.

Now Lyddy had worked for the FBI.

He said he'd done these himself and his colleague Howard Hunt, who becomes a consultant to the Plumbers, is a career CIA officer.

He says, no, we did them by the CIA.

They were called sarafitious entries.

We should do that with Elsberg's shrink.

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Both Lyddy and Hunt assured the Plumber leadership that this type of activity had been going on for forty years.

These were FBI and CIA veterans, and at the time this type of activity was rampant in the intel community.

The FBI used covert tactics to infiltrate subversive groups like the Communist Party USA, the Black Panthers, the Nation of Islam, and the KKK, to name a few.

So the legal mind of the Plumbers, David Young, looked at the idea and concluded that it met the national security exemption of the Fourth Amendment on search and seizures.

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And David Young, a very competent accomplished for maintained that yes we did.

We had an absolute right to do it.

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In other words, in cases where national security was in jeopardy.

By their interpretation, the executive branch could enter a premises without a search warrant, so they turned to Nixon's domestic affairs advisor John Erlickman for authorization on what they called a covert operation.

Legal covert operations were nothing new, so Erlickman approved it, but he told them that it could not be connected to the White House staff.

The Plumber team thought fair enough, maybe a honeypock could help them get into the psychiatrist's office.

They tried to recruit a pretty barmaid to work her way in, but she was afraid she wouldn't be able to pull it off.

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Howard Hunt says, well, I've had to deal for you.

Getting ready for the Bay of Pigs.

We recruited these Cubans and I was in charge of recruiting the Cubans and my secret name was EDWARDO.

So they're still in the little Havanah, you know they're around.

I'd go get my friends.

We'll tell them this is national security.

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And that's when the Plumber's plan began to go astray.

Howard Hunt rounded up the Cubans that he'd worked with while at the CIA, grabbed some surveillance cere from the CIA, then on labor day, nineteen seventy one, Hunt, Liddy, and the Cubans took a trip to doctor Fielding's office in Beverly Hills.

Hunt and Liddy then sent the Cubans to the doctor's office.

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The difficulty is they can't pick the lock, so Liddy says, I'm not coming back.

Just break in.

Make it look like you're after prescription drugs.

You know, he's a shrink.

He can get prescriptions and scatter some stuff on the floor, so it looks like a drug breaking.

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So the Cubans broken, pulled out a camera provided to them by the CIA, and took some pictures.

The Cubans would later tell Liddy that they couldn't find Daniel Ellsbrog's file and what about the pictures.

Well, the camera why the CIA provided, was apparently constructed in such a way that only the CIA could open it to access the film.

The team returned the camera to the CIA, and the plumbers never saw it again.

The whole thing was strange.

The entire team, except for Lyddy, was connected to the CIA, and the only people that could get the film out of the camera were the CIA as well.

It was as if the CIA was actually running the break in.

Operation.

Well, when Nixon's Domestic Affairs advisor, John Erlickman learned about what Lydian Hunt had done in Beverly Hills, he was stunned.

He'd authorized a legal covert operation, not a break in.

There was too much gray area here, and that was it for Erlickman.

He wanted to boot lydian Hunt off the White House Plumbers team.

A few days later, Erlickman met with President Nixon to fill him in on what the plumbers were learning about Daniel Ellsberg.

They'd been gathering some useful intel, things like how the documents were handed off to the Times, if he had any co conspirators, but when he got around to discussing what transpired at the psychiatrist's office, he opted to keep it from the President.

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Tomorrow.

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We'll review as we try to do.

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The league.

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We had one oftle operation, the memorder down Loman, where.

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I think it is better than he.

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The United The White House Plumber leadership continued their work finding leaks and plugging them, but they wanted the loose cannons off the unit.

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It was around that time that the Committee for the re Election of the President or CREEP, was heating up across the street from the White House.

The committee had raised almost too much money, around ten million in nineteen seventy one dollars, and they needed to spend it.

The acting director of CREEP at the time was a guy named Magruder.

Magruder was basically keeping the seat warm until Attorney General John Mitchell resigned to come take over CREEP.

Around late nineteen one.

The head plumber, Bud Crowe was looking to get rid of the loose cannon again.

G Gordon Liddy and I.

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Was called by my superior, who was Bud Crow, and he said, can you come up to the office.

John Dean wants to pitch you on something.

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Remember John Deane acted as a liaison between the White House and the re election committee.

Liddy didn't care too much for Dean, but Bud Crow was Liddy's boss, so he took the meeting.

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And John Dean said, it may be necessary for you and mister Caulfield, who was one of his assistants, to go into.

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The closet, meaning go off the grid for a while.

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And he proceeded to say that we had just had a taste with all the demonstrations of what was going to be like in this campaign and that they needed a full service, all out intelligence operation, and that it was thought that I could could do it.

And because he'd mentioned mister Caulfield, and mister Caulfield had shown me a previous plan that he had drawn up called sand Wedge, which had black bag jobs, bugging and the rest of it in there.

I said, you mean like sand Wedge, and mister Dean said, no, I want something much it's more sophisticated than that.

And I said, you know you're going to be talking a tremendous amount of money to have a full, all out offensive and defensive capability, a clandestine operation, and intelligence service.

And he said, how about half a million dollars for openers.

Well, the sand Wedge program had been budgeted for per half a million dollars he was given me just to open the bidding the entire budget of sandwiched.

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Liddy was intrigued.

He thought that signaled at least a one million dollar budget.

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But I also said, look, there's a lot of ways I can help Richard Nixon in nineteen seventy two.

This is just one of them.

I'm over here because of the sponsorship of John Mitchell.

I am working for mister Erlickman.

And it is only if those two men say that this is what I ought to do and the best way I can serve the president next year, will I do it.

And I was assured that I would receive those assurances, and I want to tell every one of you now that I never got from either of those men any such assurance.

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Liddy sent out his former plumber colleague, Howard Hunt.

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Former FBI, he was former CIA, and I said, well, you know, we may be back in business.

What these people tell me is right, and I laid it all out for him, and he said, great, because this way we won't have any more mickey mouse radio such as we were forced to use when we went out there to break into the psychiatrist's office, doctor Fielding.

He assured me that I would have his help and that of the Cuban cohort if this thing went.

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So Lydian Hunt began drawing up their intelligence plans, what today we'd call an opposition research plan.

They were going to present it to the future re Election Committee chairman and current Attorney General John Mitchell.

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And then I needed a way to have a sort of a show and tell for the Attorney General and Hunt said not to worry.

He'd have the CIA do it.

And so the charts for this meeting in the Attorney General's office were actually drawn by somebody from the Central Intelligence Agency.

I guess they had an exhibit section such as the FBI has.

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They paid the CIA guy three hundred dollars to create the charts, and they were on their way.

But the CIA now also had copies of their plans, which could not have been a good thing.

The head of the CIA was a guy named Richard Helms.

Elms didn't like Nixon, and Nixon didn't care for Helms.

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Well.

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In late January nineteen seventy two, Diddy headed out to make the pitch.

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I went to a meeting with the Attorney General and we had John Deane, Jeb Stewart McGruder, who was sort of keeping the chair warm for mister Mitchell when he would come over as the head of the campaign.

And I went in there and I set up the charts, and I gave this whole elaborate deal to the Attorney General.

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It was a wild plan that included wire tapping, mugging, kidnapping, prostitution, an upgrade to the array of dirty tricks that he saw in the plans shown to him by John Deane's assistant, and he just.

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Sort of sat there a second on his pipe and making sat on a comments.

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Mitchell reportedly displayed a poker face while saying, quote, that's not exactly what we have in mind.

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And here's Dean, who had recruited me for all of this, and he and Macgruder was sitting there, you know, looking at Mitchell like rabbits in front of a cobra, because they were scared to death of Mitchell, and I was getting no help from them at all.

And finally Mitchell said, oh, he said, you know this has been much too elaborate.

Million dollars is a lot of money.

You know, you're going to have to come back with something more realistic.

And he said, by the way, burn those charts personally.

So we left and I started chewing on the ass both Dean and Macgruder.

I said, you know, you put me in here in the posture of somebody selling something that you told me was you know, had already been ordered, and you're no help to me at all.

And so Macgruder said, cut it in half.

And so I had to go back to Hunt and tell him that we now had half the amount of money that we gave him promise, and so we eliminated a whole lot of stuff, but we kept the heart of the program, which was called Gemstone.

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The mugging, the prostitution, and the kidnapping wardly removed, but wiretapping remained.

In early February nineteen seventy two, Lyddy headed back in to pitch his revised plan.

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This time, no big elaborate charts from the CIA.

I had just small charts that were made on pieces of paper, because it's it's rather difficult burning all of those charts in your fireplace.

And I figured I've had to burn these, you know, it'll be very much at a lot easier.

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So Lyddy went back in and presented his revised version of the intelligence plan to Liaison Dean and Attorney General John Mitchell, and at.

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The end Dean said, well, a decision on a matter like this should not come out of the Attorney General's office.

It should come from someplace else, and so they all agreed on that.

I was annoyed at that because I figured it's going to delay us even.

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More, Lyddy said.

Dean scampered off after the meeting, apparently worried that Liddy was going to bite his head off, so he turned to the acting chair Magruder and chewed him out instead.

Magruder was reportedly afraid of Liddy.

No approval, Liddy was forced to play the waiting game.

It was early February nineteen seventy two.

Weeks went by, but no approval.

As March arrived, still no answer.

On March first, nineteen seventy two, John Mitchell resigned as Attorney General and took over as director of the Reelection Committee.

As the days went deep into March, Magruder reportedly paid Liddy thirty seven thousand dollars because he was concerned Lyddy would beat him up otherwise.

Then, in late March, Magruder brought a tailored down version of Liddy's plan to Miami to present to John Mitchell and his aide.

When John Mitchell saw the plan, his aid later recalled Mitchell saying this again, I don't want to see this.

Nevertheless, by early April nineteen seventy two, G.

Gordon Liddy got the go ahead.

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Way I got the go ahead was an aid to Magruiter came up and said, you've got to go on your plan, and that's how we finally got going on it.

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Lyddy and Howard Hunt began working on their plan, but within just a few days, Lyddy got a strange request from recruiter.

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And mister macgruder then called me in and it was towards the end of April, and he said, can you get into the watergate?

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Welcome back to Red Pilled America.

So in April nineteen seventy two, g Gordon Lyddy and Howard Hunt got started on their opposition research plan.

Within just a few days, Liddy got a strange request from his boss macgruder, and.

Speaker 9

Mister McGruder then called me in and it was toward the end of April, and he said, can you get into the Watergate and I said, well, yeah, you know, we could probably get into the Watergate but why and he said, well, he wanted us to go in and to wiretap Larry O'Brien's office.

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Larry O'Brien was the chair of the Democratic National Committee.

Liddy turned to his partner in crime, Howard Hunt, and.

Speaker 9

I said, well, we're instructed to go in waretap Larry Bryan's office, and we decided, well we could do it.

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In late May nineteen seventy two, they executed a break in at the DNC headquarters at the Watergate complex.

Speaker 9

We went in to wiretap it.

Now, mister Hunt and I did not go in.

The Cuban cohort went in, and mister McCord went in.

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The cord went in with some of the same Cubans that broke into the psychiatrist's office.

Liddy thought they went in to tap the DNC chair's phone.

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There we were, We got in, we got out, and I reported success.

And what I expected to receive were transcripts of tape recordings of what was going on in Larry O'Brien's office.

Instead, I got got typed, not very well typed summary locks that were given to me.

And they were useless.

I mean, we were getting hair dressing appointments and some guy taking trips to Texas and things like that.

At least that was what it purported to be.

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The phone was being monitored by someone else, and summaries were given to Liddy, but the phone tap didn't appear to be coming from the DNC chair's phone.

Something went wrong, or at least that's what Liddy was being told.

So he turned in mcord, who went in with the Cubans.

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So I had talked to mister McCord, and I said, what's gone wrong?

And he said, well, we were to put in two devices, one on the telephone, and what you're getting is you know what we get in the telephone and a room monitoring device which either is defective or we have inadvertently placed it on the wall near a steel beam that's absorbing all its tiny RF energy.

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These were line of sight monitoring devices, meaning you had to be in the line of sight of the device to hear the signal.

Whether they were broken or placed poorly or something else.

They weren't working, and Liddy getting a heat from his superior magruder.

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And then mister macgruder said, look, this is what I want right here, and he took his left hand and he slapped his lower left hand drawer, which meant the same information.

That's where he kept negative information on the Democrats.

And I said, okay to myself, that's what he wants.

He wants whatever Lawrence O'Brien has against us.

But he said, I want you to bring up all the Cuban cohort, give him all the cameras and film they can carry, because if you're going to undertake this risk of going back in again, let's make it worth our while.

And so what was to have been a quick five minute in and out fix it mission was now about a two hour photo recon mission.

And those are the orders I gave to mister Hunt.

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So on the night of June sixteenth, nineteen seventy two, Hunt gathered up his Cuban team and sent them in with the re election Committee's head of security, McCord Lydian Hunt set up shop across the street at the Howard Johnson Hotel.

Speaker 9

Mister Hunt and I were in room two fourteen, and the men, of course were in the Watergate office building that's on the sixth floor, which at that time had the Democratic National Committee Quarters, and.

Speaker 1

A third man named Baldwin was on this seventh floor across the street, perched in an office that looked right down into a DNC Watergate office.

Baldwin was the lookout and.

Speaker 9

Mister Baldwin was over there, and we were all connected by transceivers walkie talkies, if you will, and we were monitoring what was going on from room two fourteen mister Hunt and I.

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Then it all started to unravel.

Speaker 9

Mister Baldwin called over and he said that there were people up on a think on the eighth floor, and that really didn't trouble me because I figured, Okay, that's the guards, you know, going through their shift, and the men aren't going to have any lights on in there.

And then then when mister Baldwin said, are any of your men wearing casual clothes?

That's when I got the first clue because all our men were in suits.

And then he said, to any of you men have guns?

Well, I knew none of our men had guns, and I knew that this thing was going south.

We tried to get in touch with him, couldn't, but then we got the softly spoken word over the transceivers.

You know, they got US.

Speaker 1

The five man team was arrested and with the police recovered, shed a whole new light on the operation.

G Gordon Lyddy thought he was the man orchestrating the break in, but he'd later figure out that someone else was calling the shots.

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Coming up on red pilled America.

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What it was really about was getting sexual a dirt on the Democrats.

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There was a connection between the Democratic National Committee and her call girl.

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Ran Pulgan claims that Howard Haunt and James McCord, who led the break in, never left employment with the CIA, which used the men to spy on President Nixon.

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What you would see is subtle but significant changes in a witnesses testimony from closed door to three days later when they go on television.

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John Dene pulled off an incredible hoax, and he pulled it off on the Watergate Committee, and he pulled it off on the courts, and he pulled it off on the American people, And in a sense, he erased the election.

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The biggest White House scandal in a century, the Watergate scandal broke wide open today.

Speaker 6

Nixon was driven from office by secret cabal of corrupt judges, prosecutors, and Hill staff.

Endorsed by a complacent press.

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Last June seventeen, while I was in Florida trying to get a few days rest after my visit to Moscow, I first learned from news reports of the Watergate.

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