Welcome to Will you accept this rose a production of iHeartRadio.

Okay, I'm back from New York Crazy.

I landed.

Oh my god, I have something to tell you, guys.

I landed.

I took a flight back.

I had a very exciting musical meetings while I was there.

I wrote a music.

I had very exciting meeting.

God.

So I'm like, so, so, I'm so.

I landed at I got home at two two, and then I did Katla yesterday morning.

I'm like two hours of sleep, crazy train than you.

I'm so thank you.

Shout out to my weave.

Welcome to another episode of Well Except this was?

My name is Ardmorine, coming to you from my bougie garage in Los Angeles, California.

You guys, I have I have such a fun story to tell you about the person that was on the plane behind me, which I'll tell you a second.

After I introduce everybody, I'm going to start with the couple across from me.

You're our only podcast couple.

Yes, I mean, my mom wanted to marry Rob Benedict and you were on with Rob Benedict's mom.

I believe that was.

So much fun.

She was viv vivative, star.

I've thought about Viv often her.

Rob Benedict's mom came and did the podcast without I think.

He was here here Okay, it was a mother son moment.

But I feel like Evan was like had a little twinkle in his eye for Viv and like Viv was this star.

Okay, but the okay, and you came with us, just San Diego.

I it was one of my most fun times the live show.

We haven't done another West Coast one since, so when we do.

But if you ever want to do a New.

York one, I mean, don't tent me with a good time.

But just you know, to all the listeners, if you haven't gone to a live show, okay, it was a It was the most fun live podcast show by a mile.

And I've been to quite a few.

Thank you Well.

This our our rookie of the Year, Our rookie of the Year.

He has an album out called Dankey del Mar.

He's an incredible stand up comedian.

Uh and he came in and he knew this season both to the Bachelor World and of the podcast.

He's our rookie of the Year.

And he came in did a live show at Union Hall in New York Ladies and I'm Paul Danky.

You had fun, you had fun at our live show.

Ever, I.

Can I just say the chocolate tear from Hote Chocolates.

She's gonna send chocolates for the finale podcast, and she's gonna send me chocolates for my birthday party.

So you guys, this person a star again.

You can order them online Socialty Chocolate tear hookup is very exciting.

She's in Ohio and she makes these buck guys, of which it's like a It's like the ultimate Reese's Peanut butter cup.

They look like titties.

They look like titty they like they're like egg titty.

They're like chocolate egg titties.

The big nipple, like big reel, like a real, like a real, like a real tit a like a real arial, like a real like a hanger, like a hanger, a natural exactly like a seventies you snuck off to your dad's basement you found his old playboys.

That's what these chocolates are.

Not not peg no, no, they're hot.

They're hot.

No no, no, not peg no no.

They're hangers.

They're hangers.

They're hangers, and they're so they're natural, They're incredible.

Hoatch chocolate.

You need to get yourself some chocolate titties, Ladies and gentlemen.

The host of your mom and Dad's Pot, Can I just say I've listened to you guys, and I've gotten it, like like relationship advice.

I feel like you guys do all of the reality programming.

You guys are the best parents.

And even though you go buy a bad mom, you'r bad mom, but you're not.

Jes and iv An Amberl here's what I want to share with you.

Both high school sweethearts, married to his high school sweetheart, and he has two kids, two kids in high school.

In the wild.

Yeah, it doesn't happen a rare.

By the way, before we keep going, Uh, doctor Banana is off like like just living her dream in New York right now, but we today we have and she wasn't able to watch the pot.

I'm just gonna say it so so people in the way, we're not calling her or the episode.

This is why I'm so crazy.

She wasn't able to watch the episode, but we love her dearly.

And there's been some more photos of animals adopted emailed to US.

Animals adopted there was there was a couple that like found a kitten that had never they've never had a cat, and they kept the cat and now the cat is like it was like a little black cat and it's thrive a because a lot of people are afraid of.

Black cats, which you know, black animals just have trouble getting adopted and really it's really sad.

Yeah, that's Kat money, Kat money, Olivia, and here we go.

That's that's okay.

Black cats are the sweet they're the sweetest.

But we have we have more people email could be.

Like genuinely carefuable about who they adopt black.

Cats, Oh, because they do bad things.

People are psycho.

I hate that everyone.

I hate that people can funk rite off on my watch.

But but high school, sweetheart, and you and by the way, all still like, may I be so grotesque, I'm gonna send myself to hr All.

Still horny for your high school?

So absolutely absolutely horny.

I can tell, I can't tell.

I can tell you guys have chemistry.

I appreciate that because I listened to the pod.

I listen to your pod.

Do you guys speak freely?

I'm not just guessing you guys are horny I'm not guessing your horny.

For one, you have evidence.

I've listened to your podcast.

You talk about it.

That's very sweet, and I've heard you speak freely and sweetly, not in a disrespectful way.

But I know that I know that you respect for Rachel.

I know you still have a thing for your gal.

I do.

Yeah.

I keep it as a publicly horny as as acceptable.

Yeah.

When we were in we were in high school, we got harassed.

For too honey, you were too hard, And I was just like, are you serious?

Because you were still horny.

People would write nasty thing on my wife's locker, they would put notes in there.

What were you guys doing?

Oh, we were just making out everywhere.

That's fine.

We had those couples.

I mean, I don't know, I'm not I don't need to prive, but there were those couples that were just like and they were the quiet ones.

It was not the Taylor Swift putting out an album of like your Red Tree Wood is making my legs go no, no, no.

This was just like the people that aren't talking about it and they're just like doing it in the boats and dighies and in the gym and like in a and like the music library.

I think we were bringing a lot of like bringing people to sort of awareness of like what they could be having in their life.

Oh wow, was some deep jealousy where you.

Were just like making out, like by the lockers.

What are we talking about?

Yeah, for you making out by the lockers.

We'd hang out after school, We weren't.

I always.

I remember as a kid vividly growing up here near Ontario going to Montclair Plaza.

Stop ragging the couples with each of their hands down each other's jean pockets walking together.

Yeah, And I remember thinking, yeah.

That I get it.

What I want goals, that's what And that's what I got and I love it.

I think it's important to want to put your like, to to be frisky, to want to put your hands on Yeah.

And I get the people are you know, they don't want attention and you don't do it.

You don't have to do it in public, but I can.

But why why not?

It's so fun?

Who cares?

One?

Okay?

So we so you guys, you guys were handsy, did you get did you get?

We?

Also?

We weren't getting harassed with like notes, but we had.

A at that note I level.

That's how we met.

It was a lot of like, it was a lot of like interesting like friends just being like wow, chill vibe.

So we never got like harassed, but it's definitely like we were.

We went to the same church together because we grew up in a kind of a conservative thing, and so all the parents were very upset.

They were very distraught by our public displays of effect, and we talked to our parents about their.

Like we saw your two kids at the pier.

And.

I feel like I feel like I'm the only I feel like I've given shadouts to dry humping before.

On this podcast is so good, a blast, underrated and it's tough on as Jeane to Jean, JEANEA Gene is tough.

JEANEA Gene is talking Linen gen gene O Linen Jana Gene will give you like a bruise on the pelvic bond genius.

I remember who?

Did I remember who?

Genea Jane like public bone bruised me in high school.

But I feel like a genda a linen, a skur, a soft a soft seteen.

Or a double linen a.

Double Do you remember when John Hamm?

You know John ham would always walk around with his giant dingus and he would have like no, he would wear no underwear.

And I remember shout out New York Post always has the best headlines, and I remember he was like front page and I it's the headline was like John Hamm's like dong is taking him out for a walk because he was walking in linen hands and he wasn't wearing underwear, and it was just like dick first through the linen, like central so so pants.

You look down like you know immediately.

What's happening doing that?

If you know you're packing a hog and you're John Han the Hams take the Hams leading.

Okay, here's what I want to say before we get into it.

I basically saw a celebrity on the plane flying back.

No, it was okay.

If I was still if I was still hosting No Autograss Pleas, this would be my nomination for No Autograss Fleas Energy of the Week.

This was such an icon.

I was flying.

I don't want to brag.

I just switch.

So I had a last minute meeting.

I'm a Delta girl and I had a last minute meeting and they didn't have a late enough flight.

I had to get back Tuesday night, and I and I knew I was going to be able to get to JFK till like seven p MPs.

So they didn't have a flight late enough.

I was like, okay, jet Blue, it is okay.

So it's been a minute since I've been on Jet Blue.

So I'm on Jet Blue, chest full, belly, the beast, middle of the plane.

Nothing fans, no meant for me.

You know, I'm just raw dogging it.

I have raw dog heads, disgusted to discuss which, by the way, which I always am, I always up.

I've never unless somebody else is flying me.

I'm always on five foot four and I'm frugal.

So I'm like, I couldn't care less.

I could sleep any around a planet.

I'm not spending my money on that.

If so, if like Netflix wants to send me, thank you very much, I'm not.

I don't have that kind of dough.

I hoped to one day, sure, but I don't.

So okay.

So there I am raw dog and Jet Blue.

And by the way, I'm gonna say, Jet Blues gone down.

They didn't have any plugs at Terminal five.

You there's no charging.

They had all these charging stations, none of which had power, and there was no chargers in the seat to get cross cutting whack.

That was a whack.

They've all gone downhill.

So the ones that were already on the borderline, it's gotten ours.

And there's snacks because they used to have pop corners and stuff like that.

There's snacks have gotten depressing.

It felt very Kirkland, okay.

But what was not depressing was the star that was in the seat behind me.

So this woman gets on loudly, performatively on her phone, and I realized pretty quickly no one was on the other end.

And I was telling my I was telling my friend this yesterday because I'm so excited.

I can't stop telling people about it.

And I'm like, I get my cells are going crazy even just thinking about her.

So I was trying to describe this to my friend yesterday and it was like I realized, it was like a person who's probably seen a lot of like Bravo shows.

She had sort of a Mary Kennedy energy, a young Mary Kennedy from Real Housewives Assault like say energy, so like picture a twenty five year old Mary Kennedy, And so she goes she's on the she's on the phone talking to no One, and she goes, I'm on the plane.

I'm going from New York to Los Angeles.

I've had a very busy, very busy week in New York.

There's a lot of meetings.

My friend is busy coming back.

She's been filming.

She's been on set filming in Toronto and Vancouver in Canada, so she knows enough to know productions in Canada now, so she's just sort of covering your basis.

It was with Toronto and Vancouver.

So my friend is a I've there's a man I'm going to see in Los Angeles.

He used to be my neighbor.

I think about him every day.

I think about him all day every day, and we just had this connection.

I can't stop thinking about him.

And I'm gonna go find him when I get to Los Angeles.

But New York wasn't what I thought it would be.

But I've got I've got to conduct some stuff.

I'm going to get to Los Angeles and I am going, Wow, this is all And I way, this sounds like a podcast, Like no one talks like this on the conversation.

Of their whole day.

By the way, there was a moment where I hooked him with her because her handle didn't go down on her bag, and I'm I'm the friendly fool that was like, let me try to help you.

And I made eye contact with like fucking like the vortex.

I was like the demic gorgan from like you know, from fucking stranger things.

I was going deep on.

I was like, I can't, I can't get it.

We made eye contact and Crazy really likes me.

I was like, I got to turn my eyes.

I was like, oh my god.

So the demigorgan and I made I contact her couldn't get her handle down, and she just she just put it up up in the overhead with a full handle out, the full handle, like the length of the table was like fully bro with her bag, full handle out.

She goes My plan when is La.

It's my friend.

They've been filming in Toronto.

They've been filming in Vancouver, so busy.

It's so busy.

I'm crazy busy, creepy, creepy.

So I'm gonna go when I get to La.

And this didn't quite work out New York like I thought it would.

I'm gonna go door to door and I'm gonna go knock door to door and I'm going to sell one to two million paintings.

I'm going to sell one to two million paintings door to door.

I did it in New York, and I did I didn't sell as many paintings as I thought I would, one to two million paintings door to door.

That means she's also painted one to two millions.

Yes, she fulfills the orders.

You know what I mean, she paints after Yeah, yeah, that much.

Is she the painter or is she the art dealer.

Art dealers have clients like Jeffrey Deutsch?

Is was it?

Is it?

Jeffrey Deutsch in a wig?

I it was like the Pace Gallery.

It was like the owner of the Pace Gallery.

I I.

I was so excited.

I was so on high alert, just like ear horn out, just hoping so continue no, but and then there was a lot there was like I just couldn't her plan loudly.

She needed all of us to know that she was gonna go door to door.

And she tried it in New York, which meant she knocked on like one quarter of the households in Manhattan.

If she knocked two million doors, well.

Also, I mean, if what's one point two times like, what's a general painting?

Like you were selling door to door?

CoP's billion dollars in painting.

By the end of this route, she's gonna be like bezos, you know what I mean?

Like this is incredible, dick rockets, Katie, I need your thoughts.

I couldn't believe how lucky I was.

I was like the fact that Brian Sofie or Lauren Locus was not next to I was just like, like I didn't know who to talk to.

I couldn't believe it.

It was exciting enough with just her.

She was exciting enough when she put her bag up, but when she her plan was to go door to door, and so I wanted two million.

I think this woman doesn't understand numbers.

No, she understas it no, or you're.

Just limited mindset.

You guys don't actually understand what it takes.

You haven't got to her multi level marketing thing.

Katie.

We got to lock you into a building near the airport.

Have you gone to the forum?

Listen, we're gonna go.

We're gonna be form adjacent.

Dude, I I just can you.

I couldn't believe my good luck.

She was young.

When someone says they're gonna sell some art to make money.

It's always it's never good.

It's not good art.

It's a massive red flag.

And I've been tricked and chopped by this.

Before we had I was helping this.

This woman, a mother of one of my kids friends, needed to she needed somewhere to store her art while she was between apartments.

You know, it's huge.

You know it's huge.

These things are huge.

You know they're they're not going to be small little pieces of art.

Marilyn Monroe.

I go to an apartment downtown and it's like, oh, this apartment building sucks.

The apartment I was like, this is shitty.

And then the art was like, oh, this is just you made this, yes, and not like you're an amazing artist.

But like.

You I think that you're gonna be able to sell this art to like pay your rent and ship.

Yeah, it's not going to happen.

Did you store it at your apartment?

Stored at my apartment?

We let her and her daughter and their kind.

Remember it was traumatizing.

I remember that it was a huge disaster.

I remember this, of course it was.

They became was definitely the how a whole room, like how much room did the art take.

Of the art.

I was able to get into the garage, but they took did.

You get your car in the garage with the art in there?

Oh, we don't park in the garage.

The garage is just for shit.

Okay, okay, okay.

Respect, but it was.

It was, And it was weeks to get her out of the apartment.

But then I still had She was like, can you hold on to some of the stuff, And I'm like, if you leave my apartment, I'll hold onto your art until I.

Die, Like yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll buy a kid.

Is wild.

I had a person leave my house with a ton of ship, just just left it after staying for a while, and you're like, why is this my problem to deal with your ship?

But at a certain point you do the math, You're like.

Get out, yeah, get out.

Yeah.

Is this how you pay rent is by sort of emotionally manipulating people until they give you a month.

Where the rest?

Well, she was she was truly the genius because she she the trojan Horse, was her selling art.

You're right, you're right, right, So she goes I have the dream.

She got you to bite on that while embedding herself in your life.

She was never selling there the art to get you it there.

You're right, Oh my god, she is a con man on a high level.

Absolutely right.

I'm going to just say I see something in you, and as I get to know you, and as I get to know you, I feel like, if you wanted to, you could come up with your own multi level marketing scheme.

Oh you go to start like that, like yous are like a basement cult.

Well my dream.

I'm so devastated that I don't have the physique or the look to start a cult people that like it's all about the energy.

We need to give you a top, give you away.

People with that vibe, I'm like, you are just.

It's like the person that got into the fight with Blake Lively that when he had the Man podcast and he's got that like that guy Jesse A.

Baldoni had like a men's podcast with like a and you would talk about like like it was like a man like a it was like a feminist, like a feminist podcast for men for problematic membery you would have a top not while he was doing don't they.

Call that the performative male?

Yes, you got the guy who's like reading feminist literature in the park only to attract women though.

And he's like, he's like, there's jerking off my my son.

It is my son's high school's uh homecoming week And they had performative male day what yesterday where that was like the dress up theme where dressed?

Wow?

I was there for back to school and night.

I saw people dress.

How do people dress?

I was like, let me guess.

Totes, Birkenstock clogs.

You mean like like a cross body bag.

Like a toe, like a canvas toe.

Like I was picturing like a fanny pack.

No, it's the tote.

It's the especially if it's similar, sort of like hoy to artists.

And when you're American spirits in your books, you got your plugged.

In, your wired right, Okay, Okay, shere macha tea.

And he was like and la boo boos everywhere.

Oh.

I was wondering, Okay, I love, but I mean our whitney, our icon, I have final thing and we're gonna get going talking about people that sell shit.

I did an episode of a sitcom once and there was this celebrity on there.

Who who Who?

Who was like?

Who was kind of wealthy?

I think who kept she kept trying to push her handbag line on me.

I was doing one episode and she kept trying to make she had she had the handbag line, and she kept and they were like not cheap, you know.

And this was I don't know, fifteen years ago, and she's trying to make me buy like a three hundred dollars bag of her design, so now that would be like nine hundred dollars spent on one of her crafted bags.

She was like she was a regular on the program.

I was not.

And she kept trying to like hard squeeze, hard pressure, like the painting.

But it was a weird position because she was like a.

Known kind of older icon that should be illegal.

And I felt like, I don't.

Want to buy your team for this.

Why are we getting solicited at work?

Do you work?

Like?

Are we are we gonna make?

I will tell you there's one more person that okay, that our other friend works with who also has a line, who also has a line I believe of like it's either like a win, it's either of wine or candles, but like forces like the crew and stuff to buy their line, and then like when you're like number one on the call sheet on something like it's a real like flex, it's your friend, and you're like, nobody wants your wine.

They want like a French wine.

They don't want they made made in the valley.

Like you know, I made that one episode of I think it was Housewives of Beverly Hills where Jamie Lee Curtis went on and was.

Like selling wind.

I saw that.

I love.

Shout out, but that was cracking cracking me up, cracking me up.

I wanted to say, and then we'll get going as no, I'm gonna I'm gonna skip it.

Okay, so here we go, here we are overall, how are you enjoying mel He's he's gotten more boring again.

There was a second I was liking him.

I found him to be problematic in his answers to the daughters that hated him on this episode.

I have found him to be problematic since.

Before this sent his podcast.

Yes, and also here's my thing.

Break it down, Jess Ambro.

If you are.

Going to keep this man as the bachelor after what he said on the Podge, then let's give us some fireworks.

Like I want a problematic guy.

Then give me a problematic I want him to be saying wild ship, thank you.

I wanted to be unhinged and like make me feel something.

Yes, but this he's just sleepy.

He's very part of me wonders if he doesn't feel well, Katie.

Overall, I mean like like we could talk generally.

I mean I feel like maybe he doesn't feel well well.

I mean he was a football player for so long.

Yeah, and I mean we've like, you know, kind of made a joke like oh CT but like truly maybe like yeah, you know, and somebody was like, oh, he's gone into a car crash every week, yes, like years essentially true, Like I mean I think he just probably his body doesn't feel great.

I don't think he feels good.

And that's you know, coming out like he's just it's and this is probably really tiring for him.

He's probably not done this man, man I am, And I feel like he is not interested in women over sixty.

No, No, he doesn't seem I mean, like I missed this week's episode, but he so far hadn't seemed interested in any woman, like genuinely.

I feel like if there was some Hotti Bubollati young like Orange County basic Bees, he might have perked up.

Evan.

Yeah, I mean, listen, have you ever met a sixty five year old dad who's like full of energy just for.

Starters, right, is your father full of energy?

Is he sitting on the couch going, oh, you're back or you don't like Yeah, I've never met a sixty five year old guy like that.

He's just like popping up.

I need to go right, So, like for starters, there's an issue, yes, And secondly, secondly, which.

Is made up?

That's part of your that's pretty part.

That's why I start that starts with the language.

Yeah, taken, you serve with your own language and you say it confidently and you make you gas like the other person, like you know, that's a real.

World up, Yeah, exactly.

Language just made up by the government anyways.

So my thing is like being from kind of low key from where he's from.

I've also I've also never met a sixty five year old successful, handsome guy.

Yeah, it was attracted anywhere remotely to his own genre because he was forty years younger, like automatically.

Because he was because he was a successful football player, he coached Michigan and he's a lawyer.

He's tall, and his wife that is twenty five years ag.

Yeah, she was like twenty years younger.

At least when he was he was forty and he was forty and she was twenty.

Yeah, we're not talking like I was sixty.

She was forty.

It's like no, no, no, high school two days ago.

I have you know what I mean?

Forty something.

You're right, you're right, and and I want to do that again.

Give me a class of class of twenty twenty five, like John Marshall high class of twenty twenty five.

You're right, he wants forty years younger.

He was twenty five, he was Bill Bill thirty five.

Yeah, exactly.

He was being generous during that pot when he was using his pr answers that podcast.

Realize you're He was being a good boy to his friends in Orange County.

They were like, yo, you're going older these days.

He didn't realized.

Really, Yeah, he was thinking twenty five to thirty eight, Yes, totally top.

I always say one hundred percent.

I would be too old for no oh, no question, no question.

Oh me too.

And too much of a man.

My feet are good, fast, so much energy.

I've tried to race you so many times.

I've tried to raise Okay, Paul, how are you feeling about mel let's go around.

Mel I think is a real bummer of a god.

I think that.

I think what he is doing is like he's angry at them for not making him a younger man.

And that's it's all rooted in his inability to still do these things.

Like he wants to be busy all the time, but he can't.

He wants to be up for this, but he's it gives him anxiety.

He saw what the horse thing, like, he knows physically he's starting to really hit the crumble and it's scary to him and he's trying to grasp onto that by a younger woman.

But he did perk up with the daughters, of course he did.

Okay, it's so funny because like with the younger with the younger bachelors and bachelorettes, you want to meet the parents to see what they're gonna look like when they're older.

Yeah, but there's this reverse.

It's it's sort of pervy when the daughters are hot.

It's like, yeah, I knew, I was right.

Yeah yeah, yeah she is.

Like those daughters, they're going to be hot the whole time.

Yeah, yeah, you're right, Yeah, you're right, You're right.

Katie kt money makes this episode even more twisted.

Yeah, this episode here.

We are it was.

This was a weird one to watch.

I was wrong on who he was going to send home.

I was shocked.

I thought she was going to win after her hometown.

I thought she had it in the bag.

So look, why don't we take a quick break and then we'll come back and we'll get into it.

Yeah, oh, bone zone.

Time for the bone zone and we're back.

Okay, here you are, first hometown.

I love Peg Peg.

I love Peg is the star.

Make Peg if she does not win the Bachelor, I hope he's cool enough to pick Peg.

Peg is a hot blast.

Peg is a hotty booballotti.

She is a legit badass, unapologetic bomb diffuser, smoke show, titty tity gay.

With all due respect, school.

Tit job like because the younger girls don't have ginormous ones anymore.

This is like all of the girls have like good for them, like old school, like Kathy Ireland vibe, like again, I'm I'm, I'm I'm like posing on a red corvette kind of a tit job and that's fun.

White snake, yes, white snake.

The vegas of it all was like, oh, right, she's a Vegas She's a Vegas lady, which like so fun to get acclimated to the reality of your environment.

Got so Steve Heidner, who does our podcast, who is he was Kenny Banya on Seinfeld.

His first bride was super super hot.

Both of his brides are hot, but I mean, shout out, he gets hot ladies.

But I remember we were out in public before he like he was engaged to his first wife, and another woman that he had made out with came up hammered.

We ran into them at the Pig and Whistle and she came up ship face.

She goes, oh, yeah, hi, yeah, oh, that's been nice.

Like getting over here with Christine Brickley.

She was trying to say Christy Brinkley, and she called her Christine Brickley, Christine Christine Brickley.

But I feel like a lot of them got the Christine brooke, Like make me Christine Brickley, put me on a red corvette.

I want to be like Billy Joel's girl, Christine Brickley.

I want to be like uptown girl.

Here we are full so here shows she's mil Is.

He's on the plane reading a highlighted book with his many bracelets.

What was this book?

They was just flipping pages that were highlighted.

I thought it was a journal.

It felt like a journal or a bible, which kind of made me giggle if he did highlight his own journal where he's like, this is good stuff.

I got to use this.

Very high He was highlighted with his with his bracelets.

You know, this is the performative mail ship.

This is exactly wearing that many of those fucking bracelets and calling yourself spiritual and highlighting stuff on the plane.

You creep.

He's such a crazy to be a.

Jock and do that is so creepy.

It's so read read a cigar.

It's like you don't have to be this too.

Yeah, you're right, you're confusing your brand.

You know what, Timothy shall make confuse all of them.

They're like, oh they want a lady in a necklace.

I'm to be beach with cafe.

I need to be I need to wear kind of like the them close and be confusing, like I'm all of it.

I'm a sensitive mail well.

So spirituality hit you as like the younger lady side of him.

Of course, it's like all the younger ladies are crystals in astrology.

So I'm yes, I picked up a lane at a crystal store at the Four Seasons Black.

Manhattan Beach, and the girls just like, I just got done on my crystal class.

I need to start tapping into some.

Of the Yeah, that ship.

And he was also like, I need to remove my friction, which means you know, Mel got a temper.

Yes, you know, Mel's got a temper.

That is the sort of the order of the day for Mel is like, I want this to be fun, but the second you questioned me, I'm going to get this tight lip.

He has no lips, lips, no lisps.

He's like, I'm going to push this until this moment is over, and I'll be gracious about it.

Yeah, exactly, but do.

Not question me.

And that's why I thought.

I was like, this will be an interesting episode because he's gonna get question everywhere you go.

Yeah, exact same way every time.

And he was a dick by the way.

I knew it when he went on early on in a date like it was night one when he played would you like?

Would you rather?

And he only answered his own questions and didn't and didn't ask the person he goes man sitting and it just kept going and like he didn't say how about you, Paul.

It was like cash you or she's cash you.

Like It's like there was no it was just like I'm gonna give you.

The only answers that matter are my answers.

That's a great point.

Also, I don't know if you noted this because I keep thinking about it every episode is on that first episode during that like would you rather this went on?

The question was one of them was physical touch or emotional connection, and he chose physical touch, sent me and like to be in your like you no emotional connection, so he was with I know, but I do think that maybe she listen, it's one thing to be like, do you prefer physical touch or gifts, physical touch or acts of services?

Say physical touch or emotional connection?

Exactly, She's exactly give me that twenty two year old tight ass.

Honey.

Yep, you're right, you're right, give me that tight that tight ask you keep it tight.

You better be a pilates instructor as tight ass.

This is totally new for him too, because what he's used to doing is meeting girls as dads and them being like you played, I used to watch you.

So he was able to win it easy without trying.

Like I'm dating your daughter, which is weird, but you're gonna get over that because you're I'm a fan of me, right, so I can I never I could walk in and win immediately.

Now, all of a sudden, I got my daughters asking me about what my intentions are.

I don't even want to be here these old ladies.

This is weak.

Yeah, and now you're like grilling me.

It's like you're grilling me for the job I don't want.

So we missed you guys on the podcast We love you on this podcast we missed you.

I think great.

They're just great.

I did think you guys are great.

Okay, So then so they go so Vegas.

Peg is smitten and and he goes, I'm going to be on my best behavior.

She goes, don't do that.

She's fun, she's so and she's gorgeous.

She's beautiful, gorgeous, she's her.

Hair is like it's like a shampoo at I.

Hope she dates a thirty five year old after this.

I hope she lines them up and has the time of her fucking life.

She should who would not want to get at it with a dater and like put a.

Ring on a ring on it.

She's going to be fun forever.

And she has to be fun forever, and he goes, you look hot?

Yeah wow, And I thought that was actually the only time I actually felt like he meant it.

He did.

That was the one time he was attracted to a woman over thirty two.

He shocked himself.

Yeah, exactly.

Gross.

I got rid of the mom that I had as soon as she turned forty one.

So then he goes, you look hot, she goes well, and she goes hi.

It'd occur on the pole and then she tended to be a stripper on the firepole?

Did it stuck her legs straight?

I mean flex her legs.

Maybe her leg was like up behind her head, like hot, hot hot.

If I hope she doesn't win so she can get a better guy and she could be the bacheloret.

Oh yeah, Honestly, I don't think anyone's gonna win this season anyway.

Honest I think he's gonna go home alone.

Oh you think he's not gonna choose somebody.

I hope that they all dip because he was, But I think that if they don't, he's gonna be like, do you want to maybe date.

Of course, no no, no, no, no, yeah yeah yeah.

So then he goes, she goes, well, then he imitated her.

I did like him going stand back, stand back her bummer of the exit of the limo, with the with the bomb not going off, with the PAS having to come in and reset them.

That was fun.

That was fun.

I liked that.

Yeah, okay, So then she goes, look, this is my accomplishment, and I'm proud of it.

I'm proud of myself.

And I was like, I I admire you.

Pay She owns her accomplishment.

She doesn't apologize, she doesn't hide her light under a bushel, and and he goes, I feel special.

I feel special getting to see pain.

She's incredible, Like I feel like she might stole work for that fire department, like those guys felt like her boeze.

Yeah, it was kind of giving that energy.

Also, he got to ride a fire truck actual.

And he didn't.

She got the little boy.

And yeah, he didn't even look emasculated, because I was.

I would think that that Orange County dick, which emasculated getting rid of written around like as but he was into it.

Evan, what do you think I.

Think he was emasculated?

But I think he wasn't willing to admit he was a you know what I mean.

It's like ego where it's like I'm pissed, but I won't show on his That was like him on the horse.

It's a good job, peanut, or yeah, he's.

Like I could do this.

I could have been a firefighter.

Yet you weren't.

She was and she diffuses bombs before the bomb robot.

She said, over, she's a badass.

You played football, dude.

I can't tell you the number of guys that I've dated who like I wrote about, They're like, I could write a book.

Well you didn't, Okay, you go write a book.

By the way, lots of people have written books.

They never read mine, And I'm like, like, god forbid they ever read mine.

And they were all like I should write a book.

It's like, but this isn't about you, Like I hope.

What mel was reading in the plane was your book?

Like that, then I get why it's highlighted.

You know what.

He's like, Wow, look at all that look as she came from such a small town, and she looked like the artful dodger till she was twelve.

Look at her no it's good to have a glow up.

A cute little ginger became that became the Mermaid of the Silver Like Reservoir, an absolute fucking smokeshell.

I asked my hairdresser yesterday to give me the bardobe your hair.

Do you like it?

You like it?

It was like I want to be because I was like, I don't want to look like a country Western stinger.

I want to look like a friend in seventies.

That's what I wanted.

Okay, thank you.

I can never wash my hair again.

It's just a stick like this.

I'm just to lack it.

Yeah, look at it.

Okay.

So then so then she's so he was proud, and she's like, she goes, I'm not like they reused her audio from last week.

I'm not looking for fireworks.

I'm looking for the fireplace, which I like.

I really like that lying.

I never heard that.

I was like that, that's very thoughtful and kind of like irrefutable.

That's what I was, like, really struck.

I can't get over the fact that all these Goldens have living parents.

But I thought.

Last year Gary had living parents.

I'm like, all of them have living parents.

And I loved Dorothy her mom who's seen every season of the Bachelor love.

I want Dorothy to be the Golden Bachelor.

She was adorable.

I feel like Dorothy would be great on this podcast.

Dorothy, we're reaching out.

God, we're reaching You were reaching.

Out, Dorothy, We're reaching out.

That would be so and peg, of course, but.

Dorothy making a twenty year long fan.

I don't know.

Okay, here we are, so we're going to continue.

Do you guys do this?

I type it because I can't read my own handwriting.

You think I could read this?

And look at this?

Look at this scrawl, the scrawl of a fucking cereal.

It's not attractive.

It's not looking good.

I can't tell you it's you know, it is what it is.

You're making it artis.

I feel like I'm like a scenographer.

I'll figure it out what that means later.

I'm just kind of like, i'll know what I don't know.

I don't know what I mean.

Okay.

So then Dakota the daughter, Dakota's have none of his Shenana grams.

She's not feeling it.

She's like, fuck the right, fuck the hell off, Jess.

I loved Dakota.

I loved to code Dakota, and she was like he was he wanted to get at it with Pegster.

He was like, fuck you, Dakota.

Yeah, he hate Hey and I she wasn't gonna drop it, so she so she He's like, He's like, oh yeah, your mom put the bomb out for me.

Get back, stand back, and then and then she goes, you know, can you my mom is the most fun?

Can you hold love and be kind?

And he goes, I want to do all of those things.

And then she goes, I don't open my heart up to everybody.

And then her mom said, would you say yes to an engagement?

And she said I would, So then Dakota pulls him inside and he goes and he gave answers.

That was like he was on trial.

And his lawyer was like, just just dont just don't give them any branches to stop talking.

How are you feeling about my mom?

Great?

I don't think we've ever seen a lead in the History show to sit at hometowns and say nothing, So how are you feeling about my mom?

And just say great?

Period period, sit in silence, constantly, look her, look her.

Down like what are you going to do about Dakota and Dakota's like, I'll put my dick on the table, motherfucker house.

Yes, but he goes, how you about my mom?

Great?

I was like, I'm gonna kill you.

Fucking hate you.

Your son I could talk to Actually, I actually I don't know what to do with this dude.

You're right they all have daughters.

Yeah, and all the daughters are onto him.

And think about this, the daughters no going in that.

He said that stuff on the podcast.

I hate this guy.

Yeah, I would have hated your hair.

So cute.

I just you just did a twist and you're so cute, so cute.

What are you gonna wear to my birthday party?

Dress?

What are you gonna wear a dress?

Dress up?

What's the theme the holiday?

I'm gonna be an ornament?

I mean, I mean you could be as dress as you want, like, look like like dressed.

Up, probably velvet something fine, what are.

You gonna wear a velvet suit?

Yeah?

Do you have an ornament as well?

He actually does have a red velvet.

Will you wear your red velvet if I.

Can fit into it?

It's been a while.

I believe in you.

Yeah, this was a couple of years working out.

Yeah, Yeah, we'll get you on some something.

Okay, what are you gonna wear?

I haven't decided yet.

What are you thinking about wearing?

What's on the table?

Probably, and this is going to be controversial, but I'm going to bring back the deepest neck V.

I want right now?

Those are they?

Yeah?

Well you were disgusting.

Will you wear a lot of chains with it?

You wear all my chains?

So it's gonna be Is it gonna be like a T shirt or a sweater V.

I'm probably gonna go tea under the swater.

It's going to be like you're a double vise bit of a stack of the V and then some complimentary chains.

I like that.

Katie, what are you gonna wear?

No chest hair, Katy, what are you gonna wear them?

I'm thinking about a full gride full gridge.

I'm not sure yet, but I'm gonna wearringe.

But I need to be able to dance.

I have a DJ me too.

I get ready.

You are the most fun to watch dance.

You're not even gonna know what hit you up.

I know it's going to be a tornado, and I'm excited.

You're not even Yeah, honey, you're not even gonna know.

Again, seeing the lives shifting danced the live show and.

Like with Aaron Clancy, are you kidding?

Place jumping into Logan's arms, Logan please.

Jumping into Logan's arms.

The one that got away, the one that got away?

Oh will they won't?

They?

And Logan me, and there was tension you could tell there there was We're all talking about it.

Everyone was like, Arden and Logan are hot for each other Logan.

Logan looked at me like Mel looked at the daughters.

Did I did?

I can't?

And he spun me around like I was like it was the end of dirty dancing and I and he was screaming nobody put his baby girl in a corner and I've never felt more alive.

Okay.

So so he goes, HEIGHO about my mom?

Great, okay, well what do you like about her?

I love her spirit?

She has lots of energy and he goes, okay, well, every one has energy, that's what she said.

She goes, okay, everyone has spirit and energy.

What specifically about her?

And he was like hmm, and she goes, are you in love with my mom?

No, I'm not in love with your mom at the moment, not yet.

And the daughter's like, you know, fuck yourself for every piece of you.

Fuck off forever.

I don't give it.

Yeah, I don't watch football.

I could have watched those two talking for an hour.

Dude.

It was she She is goals for.

Me and dealing with tough man because I shut down.

So I have some difficult men in my life right now, and I'm going to try to channel her next time I have to deal with.

I love that.

I felt like it was a example PEG's parenting.

Yeah, because you're like, look at this woman that obviously you know she's her own person, but you see how Peg is and I feel like she's learned from her mom.

What happened to the dad?

I forget?

I think he left very early.

Who is the ones that came.

Back and I stole the baby?

That was the motocross one They s stole the babies.

Yeah, that.

Story was like whoa, that was a lot.

That was a lot where I felt bad for her daughter and a lot of people just dealing with the country.

Yeah, Dakota, going on these reality shows, it is kind of like term defining.

Like for the daughters, you went onto the show to follow fall in love and make a proposal.

That's what the show is for It's like he's like, I signed up to be on a game show where I'm dating a bunch of women.

Yeah, I'm killing six.

Weeks, get on my knees and propose to somebody.

Yeah, you're saying that.

He's like this is crazy, this whole construct is crazy, and you met me.

I can get posty.

I'm not gonna be like he's he's that guy.

And the daughter is sort of like in this in this fantasy version of like what a reality show is, like, Oh, everyone's here to fall in love, and it's like not to be rude, but grow up because they're just here.

He's here for your mom is here.

That's a bad casting because other people are there to get married, and that was bad casting.

I would agree with that.

To follow, to follow true to the idea of the show, I think yes, But the reality for a man, for the man, this man in particular, like he's not gonna let you tell me he's a bad guy.

He's not a bad guy.

He's doing what he showed up to do.

He never said he loved her.

He's being honest.

He is.

He's like we're playing two different games.

Yeah, and that I'm not playing the game you want me.

Evan is a co leader.

What do you think of all this?

Well, I think he signed up for the regular Bachelor and then they were like you go to the gold one.

He's like, oh, Gold's cool.

I like gold the.

Best one, right, yeah, the best one.

And then he's like, then there I started talking about age that what are you talking about?

Next?

Thing?

You know, there's a bunch of like old ladies there.

What is this?

I honestly because it doesn't make sense why he's there, right, Like to your point, it's like he's showing up.

He's like, I don't know if I'm like even like your mom basically Conna.

Yeah, and usually it's like I love I know.

That she's the best of the worst and the worst is anybody over three?

I just don't know why he's here, you know what I mean?

At least like uh, Gary, Gary was like he was like he was very emotional.

Was the ultimate problematic mail.

He was the ultiate performative mail because Gary acted like everyone's grandpa.

Meanwhile, he's been fucking everyone in town.

He's like the horny pool boy of like his like, but.

At least we got invested.

At least were like we were like, oh, this guy believes he tricked the ladies.

I mean us, this guy just seems confused and why he's here.

I think he wanted to do the first five weeks, That's what I think he wanted to do.

He wanted to do any of it.

I think he just wanted to get famous.

He did it, Yeah, introduced me to a lot of ladies, and then we can just end it there.

But I don't think he even wanted any of the ladies.

No, okay, so then, I mean, I think it's there was a second we were giving him a chance, and now it's like, you know what, as Maya Angelou says, people let you know who they are right out of the gate, and it's up to you to believe them.

He let all of us know.

We tried to have an open mind, but there are no fixed ruppers.

People are as is and they let you know who they are.

And let's be honest.

Even from the very top of the season when he was apologizing, he never said why, He's just so sorry.

I said that.

It was like, okay, but why did you say that.

Did you mean it?

No?

Yes, I did mean it.

I'm just sorry you heard it.

Yes, I'm.

I'm sorry.

I was recorded when it was said, I'm sorry.

You make from the top.

He has told us to the top.

So then so the daughters like, hmm, yeah, I don't know that I like him.

The daughter is like, she's like, you know, I want to support you and stuff.

But the mom was my goal, he said to her, my goal is to find someone.

And then she said, are you actually looking for someone, Dakota, And he goes, he goes what his answer was a circular answer?

I like being married and you know, and and and she says that woman has been through so much she deserves to be cherished.

And he says, I will do my best.

Get fuck right off out, dude, fuck off.

And then the daughter's like, are you sure, And the mom peg said, nothing risk, nothing gained.

And then uh, you know, she's like, she's like, I just don't think you're being appreciated as much as you deserve.

We were all just silently shaking our heads.

Yes, it was.

It was shocking.

Like I loved this episode because it found it to be wildly entertaining, because it was different.

Because they called him out, Katie, they called him out.

You have to watch.

It was really good.

Because both sets of daughters, uh both because it was all girls and they were like and neither set of daughters, like the two women that had daughters, neither chill sense of children liked him.

They both didn't like him good because he's a dick, he's a deck.

It's funny like watching from like the Grand Season when it's just the regular Bachelor.

This was his first season was grand.

Oh wow, okay, okay, just like our rookie this year.

The dad's fighting for like wanting to stand up for their daughters is like strong and you know, we've seen this and it's it's real.

It's real love.

But it's nothing compared to the love of a daughter for their mother.

For their mama.

I will kill you.

I would kill him if he came for JJ, I would kill.

I was been thinking about the whole time because my mom is single, ready to mingle, and she tried to get on this season of The Golden Bachelor.

She submitted, and I still hold it against ABC for forever.

They didn't choose her.

Because it was mel And I'm like thinking about sitting.

Next next season, sitting there with that man across Oh.

My god, what would you have said?

What would you have said, what would you have said?

Like these ladies?

Or excited to throw the ball.

He was so excited.

Meanwhile, okay, should we take another break?

Okay, we're gonna take another break.

Who I don't know about you, but things again so hot in here.

I think I got to take I'll pay your break, and we're back.

Here we are with Debbie and Colorado.

Now I have felt like Debbie.

I feel like both society and mel has held it against Debbie that she was never married.

I believe they've treated her like there's something like you got left on your piece of produce, left on the shelf too long?

Why did nobody pick the apple?

You know what I mean?

And and and I think she needs to have more of a champion attitude about it.

And here she was so darling on this trip.

They go to Red Rocks and she's she tells him this story, and I have to say, I'm proud that she waited till now to tell it, Like this is the right time, Yeah, this is the right length of time.

Yeah, in theory, I mean, but I don't think that he was ready to He didn't want to have a He's one of a serious relationship so he doesn't want to hear suicide.

He does wanted to hear mental health issue, dependence on drugs.

He doesn'tant to hear any of that.

All of that is friction to him, and he just wants to.

Eliminate the frictions.

Said instead of like, we're in a beautiful spiritual place.

Oh it's so spiritual here, it looks fake, That's what he says.

Yeah, and it's like that's where your mind is at.

You're just not willing to deal with like the realness of your own life.

He's a fucking pig, dude, I really I really do.

Like, well, yeah, good, you speak freely.

It's a goodut.

What was your second second?

Most?

What was your word that you came up with?

Second?

Secondly, secondly, secondly, second that is a word, it was second.

Second You need to write down your liature.

Leg Yeah, you're exactly.

So she goes, I want you to know I've been single since I was fifty one.

When I was fifty one, I was standing a guy.

I knew he was going to propose.

He had he had depression.

I was conflicted.

I talked to my therapist about it, and she said, so I broke up with him, and uh, he took his life and that altered me forever, and I had I carried a lot of guilt for that years.

Years.

I was down for years, so hard, and uh, you know, I put all my energy into helping others.

But I'm falling for you.

I have an open heart and let's have a good time today.

I know that was tough.

I love her, her twin.

I'm the twin.

It could have been made.

I'm the twin.

I'm the twin.

It was so cute, all the sisters.

I'm the twin.

I'm obsessed with twins.

Stop it.

Twins are nuts.

Stop it.

We just finished recording Orifice.

I'm obsessed with twin and my twin obsession.

To okay, I'm upsets.

The twins freak me out, particularly when they have twin languages.

Twins are often a handful.

I like when people refer to him as the twins, the twin when there's the twins, think about this, twins.

We've had three sets of twins this season.

Wait, okay, wait, wait what Sondra and one Gal's.

Daughters who are twins who popped out of the limo and.

The monitor Debbie secrets.

We know about Can we just talk for a second about Sondra Andra.

First of all, Andre's not a name, and I love that they made it Sondra Andre.

Second, second, secondary three, I love the they're both seventy seven banging.

So I also felt like it was Sondra in a wig, being like it's me Andra around because she was the horniest one last season.

If you recall, she was super horny when they did those like sexy photos.

She was horny.

She's like, let me back in.

Let me back in.

I'm horny.

I still got it.

Seventy seven skin, dewey skin of like the like of somebody that Melt would go for.

She's like, mel, I'll show you what a seventy seven year old looks like.

Seventy seven.

Sondra and Andre the gene below and twins.

Legendary, oh absolutely, and.

Twin languages and twin connections, and we're twins and twins that still hang out.

The twins, the twins of it all, and I'm the twin.

Twins are not twins are for kids.

Oh, Robbie Hoffman, Oh my god, twins, Robbie.

Robbie hoff has a bit and it's like one of my favorite clips on sugar.

Twins are for kids, And I found like there's not a better description as like it's just twins.

Twins are for kids.

Twins are twins.

Imagine being like the child in a household with like the twins, Like the twins.

Twins are another sibling.

I hope to god they do not.

I know, could you imagine.

They are also professional twins?

They're still pro twins.

They're the for my dollar, the best twins in the biz.

Oh, they are the twins in them they like.

They've formed, like they took their two personal energies and made a third bigger, incredible energy, and they make me like.

You know what, I love to But and everybody knows the Sclars.

It's like who's your sclar?

Like everyone has a way like which scoar are you closer with?

Who's your sclar?

I'm not close with either of them?

Okay, no I have.

I mean I've hosted a bunch of shows that they've been on.

Who's your Sclar?

No, it doesn't mean dislike one or the closer?

Like who do you feel like?

Who is going to pick you to go on a road trip with them?

Like which which caloar is gonna choose you, and it's that you're choosing this calar.

It's like which calar has chosen you?

Which one?

I've talked more, and I feel like they're always together.

Yeah, yeah, okay, okay, twins.

Twins, twins, twins, powerful.

Okay, okay.

So then we have so there's a barbecue.

He's so happy to finally throw football after to get to kodo off his nuts.

Honestly, we were all happy.

Yeah, exactly, he could throw it, give him the football.

Yeah, he loved that.

He that these guys did not know how to play football.

He was just like, I'm gonna throw his lollipop.

I mean he was lollipop.

Why don't you know what that means?

What is a lollipop?

I think we thought that it's just like an easy It was like a like an easy throw, so that you're like.

A lob little pussy.

Yeah, okay, exactly, you're eight feet from me.

Okay, lollipop.

And he's like think twice and like chucked it at the one time.

You know, twice, he goes, who's close athletic between the two you chucks it.

I mean he's like, I'm talking to you, I'm dumb, yeah, you know, he's a bully.

You know, he likes I would have shoved I would have like shoved you into a locker room in fucking high school.

Okay, So so then they start trying to talk to him.

They were sweethearts.

They're like so they they go, what attracted you to Debbie?

Uh?

Do you like, do you look forward to seeing her?

What a cute question.

Those are some older guys I can get behind.

Yeah, those are regular guys.

Yeah, they're not pro football players.

No, they probably have the right amount of ego.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

They make just you know, kind of conservative decisions and you know, just so there's regular old man.

Yeah, so like, what attracted you to Debbie?

Do you look forward to seeing her?

And he's like, well, he didn't even answer it.

He didn't even answer it.

And then there was like the twin like.

I'm a twin.

Out, I'm the fun one.

They always say it, I'm the twin.

Oh, Debbie's always wanted to have someone.

I want someone for Debbie.

And then and then so that they're talking and she's like, I feel that he's sincere and she goes, so, uh, she said, I don't want her to go far.

I'd be sad.

I don't want The twin was pretty simple, simplicity.

Yes, that's what you gotta ask, which one is the simple twin?

One of you is simple.

She wants what I have.

I don't want her to go far.

He's like, don't you worried because.

Said I would be sad, and then so then and then so Debbie was it.

It's just like bye bye mouth and then Debbie's like, I'm sad to see you go, and he goes, I'm not going.

As he got in the car and he was like, you're getting cut.

It's I think.

I think the smart families when they have you for hometown, they put you in a condo.

The big mistake is people think, well, let's have them into our real home, and this your home is fancy.

Don't do it.

Talk to us, Talk to us, because I think Mel went to this very regular house.

He money eating a regular barbecue, and he's like, this is boring.

You know what.

That's so interesting because that's what I was hung up on this whole time is I'm like, I think he was gonna choose Debbie, but he liked the bouginess of Peg and Cindy situation or like the fun.

And then he liked, oh, Sindy's apartment in fancy.

Red honestly because Gary's backyard barbecue.

Because Gary also like I think he picked Teresa because she had a job and like a lot of money.

Who knows how much?

Who knows how much he has to pay an alimony?

True, and because.

She's pissed at him.

His ex is pissed.

So maybe he's like, I like to live well, but I have to give away half my money right now.

But you could fill in the blanks.

I think.

So it's almost over though, because I think his sons are like eighteen or twenty, so it's close.

But he was perfectly timed for him.

The seasons, Yeah, done with.

But does that happen?

But child supports them?

But does alimony end?

There's spousal support.

It is California.

Spousal support might not end.

She divorced at the time.

I hope that she gets spousal support for the rest.

Yea too forever, forever, me too forever.

She's pissed.

But I think when he thought about Debbie, it was like she's a famous workout instructor who has celebrity clients like maybe that's going to be the lifestyle.

And then when he went to Peggy, it was this sweet regular.

They were normally the twin and it's just like, you know, he's like, I can't hang out with people my age and just talk about our shoes and our our barbecue problems.

He's like losing his mind.

He thought it was you and your hot pilates friends.

Now I got Donna, You're.

Right now out of me.

He make me sad.

I'm gonna try to kiss you.

What everything's getting.

Hi from behind?

I have a fake uncle that that love like tits, and his wife was like flat chested, and he's like my mom and I've always had like boobs, and my mom and I would go into every holiday always carrying coats and a ray because he would like has gone.

We would he would grab both of us and roll us roll the screw on his chest.

So my mom and I would basically be like in like dirty dancing when she's like I carried a watermelon.

We would basically like carry watermelons into this like fake uncle tomthing rolling.

He would roll us both of us, my mom knockers, and he would roll both of us like back and forth, across his barrel chest.

I cannot and then and then you get like a mouth kiss.

So you're like, you get like a mouth kiss.

I'm like the uncle.

You're like ah, and I'm you know, raised in New England.

You know now now now learning to go Hey, I don't want.

That you stay far away.

But like at the time, we're just like here we go, there go, here we go.

I gotta just deal with this.

You got to learn.

And I guess this is for the young listeners.

You learn to like make your core tight, angle your body strong, defensive position, and hug with the strongest a frame you can make.

Dude, there's been a few self defense class.

Yeah, I learned that there's a few.

There's been a few weirdos at live shows of mine that I see them coming.

I can see them coming down the alley and and and I know what they want and they want to touch me, and and like there's and I'm happy to give anybody out.

But like I can tell said, there's been a few, and there's been And I've also learned I don't even need to put my arm around you.

I can go side by side standing.

There was one you saw one.

There was one there was oh there squirted out and like and I but I would.

I learned to stand like this so that there's not a photo to get jerked off to like an armor, right, I don't put a an arm around anymore.

If I don't want a picture of me touching you, you're not getting I'm not gonna You're not getting it.

I will, I will stand next to you, but I'm not gonna touch.

You for your jerk off.

Pop gotta think you gotta.

Think about what I'm saying.

I hate that.

That's the world we live.

Have to think about that.

Agreed to agree.

It's so gross.

Yeah, why did you do that to me?

Mel Why did you come to that?

Mal And his name is Mellowes Okay, okay.

So so then he goes, okay, So that's the end of that episode.

That's the end of that episode.

That's the end of that date.

So here we are.

We're in Austin.

Cindy.

She goes, welcome, awesome baby.

Oh yeah, she's gorgeous.

She was standing in a gown.

And he goes She's like, She's like, well, I've fallen.

I I've just been thinking about them and she and she just says if you're a very good boy.

You get to go see where I live.

And he was like, where is it?

Why?

What are we doing today?

What are we doing?

I'm like, oh, it's like I'm flirting with you and you're not picking up on it.

And You're like, you have to make it.

There's no I'm giving you an opening.

And yeah I was.

I felt like from her the most transparent of like her moves.

We saw her moves, yea, and what she does.

By the way, you were right about the Freddy.

You were right about the gamesmanship of Sindy, of of a Carol.

He was onto Carrol's gamesmanship trying to become the bachelor atte And.

I'm pretty sure she did it.

I think she did.

I think she did it.

She's gorgeous and she manages Freddy Freeman.

Yeah.

When, yeah, when she when she was the one from last week that.

Eliminated.

I think you're right, you were right.

I think it was Oh I want wow.

Oh yeah, she was playing the game.

She was playing the game.

She knows what show she's on.

Wow, she got me, She got me too.

And now I see her in a whole new.

Yeah, she got me too.

And then Paul called out her gamesmanship, and I was like, uh, he didn't trust her.

Interesting, Well, I think that you know, she's there for her own reasons and I think everybody is.

And uh, fact that she's so good at it and so like dedicated to playing this way was like, so sad.

Did you hear our rookie rookie last week?

And I haven't listened yet.

Our rookie rookie is a young lady named Clara that I'm running a screenplane with who's never seen any episode of any reality TV show ever.

Wow, he must be so pure cure.

She was so clean and clear and she did that.

She did so she was the rookie rookie.

She's the most pure Like she's the rookie of all reality TV?

Wow?

Isn't that?

How did she like it?

She was, she was interested, she liked it, She liked it, had a lot of good insight.

What did you think of our rookie rookie?

Isn't she great?

She's ruined because reality TV.

And we've destroyed her.

We've destroyed her.

Isn't she a pure soul?

She seemed she's twenty five and she'd never done a she'd never done a podcast and she never heard any she's never seen reality TV.

A pure little angel where.

She's from La.

What, Well, maybe maybe it's like so close that it's like right.

Parents or something.

I've got a bunch of friends that are filming in Toronto and Vancouver, and I just gotta La.

When I get back to La, I'm busy.

I can't watch TV.

I gotta go door to door and I gotta.

Sell one to two one to milliona painting.

I want to go door to door.

I'm gonna go door to door.

I'm gonna knock and I'm gonna sell.

I'm gonna sell one to two million paintings.

I really need to talking about it.

Every time I say that I don't know what.

I want to have a bodily react.

I have a visceral reaction where I get creepy.

I couldn't believe you know what.

I lucked out Sometimes you sometimes you get to downhill fled in life.

And even though I knew I was going to be tired the next day, I'm glad I wasn't on an earlier flight because I needed to be on that.

I need to be on the reality Angel.

I'm saying that baby God chose that God chose up Baby Mary Kennedy BB Kennedy.

Okay, okay, so okay, So you saw Cindy's moves.

Yeah, the way she was sort of like not giving ultimatums, but definitely like clues and codes of just like this is kind of what I want and I want you to give it back to me.

Like really leading the horse to water.

She really led the horse to water.

And you're no, and he's not doing it.

He will not be.

For not that interested, which is so fucked And I feel bad for her because they were genuine moves.

I all think she was being no.

She likes him.

She likes him, she's open.

She's like, I'm willing to move to California to be for him, Like this is the first most realistic because a lot of the older contestants are like, I have a full and the daughters like, go, we want you to go.

That was sweet that they were supporting.

Yeah, they were like, we want you to go.

And they were like, guess guess who mommy talked about.

Guess who mommy talked about, Like Paula Abduel.

She's like yeah, but I was like, now they knew mommy loves Paula Abdul.

Imagine if your mom.

That is very.

Like, who do you most want to see?

Paula Abdul, who also like you just must like American almost have been just incredible for three.

Years, you know what I mean.

It's like, well, I never thought i'd see.

Her again, and now she's every week.

And then she goes, she goes, I felt like I took a step back in time, and and then I you know, she starts crying.

She goes.

You know, it's like I've always just been a mom or a friend, and and she goes.

She's telling her daughters who are smoke shows.

Her daughters are all all engaged to these guys who look like thrilled to be there, and I'm yeah, so then so then she goes, well it makes me feel so safe, so secure.

She's like, these feelings are big.

I have to move to California.

It's like, no, you don't, honey, he's gonna ditch you immediately.

They're like, we want you to go.

Mel goes, I'm not looking for perfect, but is she gonna be open to me?

Watching college football every Saturday all day every day and they're like, you're gonna be out matched by college football, and he's like, fuck I thought that was gonna get them off my tip of my dick, Like.

He's like a great Now she's more perfect.

Yes, And then they're like she'll know more than news, like, fuck you, I don't want a woman, no more than me.

That's how dare you a masking that?

Ma?

I'm a man?

And he goes, I like your mom a lot.

I don't know what will unfold, and she's and then they're like, you're not giving a straight answer.

The daughter didn't like him.

And then she's like, I don't know if he's like in it for you, and and they were not into it, and they're like and she said, you know, I final, like I finally am back to my old self.

I'm putting myself back together again.

And it might be the big L love I my big L love love him, but I need him to say it first.

Smart, Yes, protect yourself.

So she's like, do you want to see my condo?

It's my jewel box.

It was lovely gorgeous in Austin.

That's expensive.

Oh yeah, that's an expensive apartments.

That was good for her.

She goes, she goes, I know I feel the big al the big AL for Mel.

She and then she's like, but I'm not going to say the big L unless you are the big L for me.

There's like a whole game, right, And then so she wants to know how he feels.

She goes, I'm falling for Mel.

I know I'm falling for Mel.

This was to the camera, like I look up at the stars and I think of the telescope date, and I think, is Mel thinking me?

I'm like, no, he's jerking off to your daughter's right.

Yes, he's drunk, and and and so she goes, and she goes, I I do like you.

He goes, that's why we're here.

He's like, you know, I'm just not there yet.

I'm not very at.

He's so far from being anywhere near.

There considering there.

This is not even a thought in his head.

He hasn't thought about any of that.

I was thinking about this when I was watching.

I was like, I don't think there's been a single time he's asked one question this entire season.

Like when you watch him like sitting with them, yeah, just they just talk at him, yes, and he goes, oh interesting, and that's it.

He never will tell me about how this was tell me about your childhood.

They never have it back and forth.

They sell themselves to him and he kind of downloads it and goes and then a response like for Carol, it was like, I want to see the more like you know, skinny dip side of.

You tell me more about those pools you know.

Oh, I'm sorry that happened to you.

It's it's just always like a one or two word response, but never back and forth, almost like he's just kind of buying times exactly interesting.

Great, yeah, that was his answer, he said, great Katie, she said, what do you think about how do you think about my mom?

Great?

Well, then she said, what do you like about her energy?

And it's alive?

He said, it's a lot.

Yeah, it's a lie.

He couldn't.

He couldn't have at all times pulse.

And I was talking to just about this.

I was like, isn't he a lawyer?

Like don't lawyers have a little.

But maybe he knows because maybe.

Because lawyer it's copyright.

Because he's a lawyer.

He knows.

I didn't say, and you can't get I didn't.

He knows not to get himself in trouble.

I'm going to say.

Nothing would say you did say that you were following.

I never said that.

I said nothing.

I said that, he said nothing exactly.

She's got a pulse.

He's been taken to court by a woman recently.

He knows very right.

He's like, I know your gig.

You're not going to catch me in this one.

You're setting me up women.

Wow wow Okay.

So then there's the rose ceremony peg is uh.

They're all rocking, the lettos.

I know, looking, they're sweet to one another, I know they are.

They're all They're all gorgeous, stunning.

They like the amount of gowns they make these women buy, like a gown nobody wears.

I've never worn a gown, not even to a wedding.

Have I ever worn a gown.

Where so many gowns windsor w did you do?

Pat?

No?

No, But for like prom and stuff.

If I want to go on the Bachelor, be like I'm going to windsor because I'm gonna get a little bit of a gown for a steal.

Otherwise, dollars no evolves, Evolve has a lot of revolve.

You can get a two hundred dollar gown.

Gown I'm looking for like a like a forty five dollars gap.

It's a gown for a night.

It's pretty cute nightly gown.

I went a pretty cute gown to the because I went on Kiano Fest last week where I did a double kiano a kiano piano, where I went to the kiano premiere and then I went to a piano and waiting for goodo oh.

And I wore a Zara dress to that premiere and it was a sixty dollars dress and I feel like it was almost a gown which I might wear to my birthday party.

Here look at and you.

Just said you didn't wear a gown, so we would have caught you already.

This is why, mel here's why gown.

Here's my Zara dress, and here's and then look at the back way, look at the bat wait, here's I have a fun back of the Look at that.

My god, that's my gown.

That was a seventy No, I had to have it altered.

I had to have it altered.

I spent probably seventy on the alteration.

Sure, but you know, instead of three.

The door, if you don't buy it exactly exactly exactly and butter yellow is still the color of the season.

I'm debating what I'm debating wearing that gown, which you know what, you caught me in a line.

I'm I don't wear that.

I wear that gown to my birthday party.

Why because you've you've already looked beautiful and fantastic draft you're gonna want to I knew, and I don't know if that's Scott as much spin.

Thank you, you're right.

I need to dance, thank you.

I need to show off my gams.

You got to show off them games.

I got to show off them gams.

Birthday party.

I know what's going on.

You're dancing.

I'm dancing, and I'm disgusting.

No, no, are you kidding?

It's amazing.

Bert Kreischer told me that if I wasn't an actor, I could be a stripper.

But the night before but I was so flattered because I'd never actually been to a strip club until I had gone the night before to a birthday party I went to.

I went to Jumbo's clown Room for a birthday party.

The night before my birthday party last year.

I'd never been to edit Right Strap Cut Right.

It was so fun, the talent dancers possess.

I wanted to be up there so badly.

That's why there's a there's a drawing.

There was a birthday present the next night of the bat.

The birthday girl drew me a picture of me if I was Jumbo's clown dancer, clacking my high heeled boots, like because they'll go click, yes, because they get their money together, get their money, they click them together.

I didn't know to wake them up.

I got to wake them up, and so I was like, I want to be a Jumbo's clown dancer.

Listen, you know out of your birthday, we'll see where the night takes us to work.

I need to keep doing my dance.

But I was flattered when birds that I could do it.

You have like a jump back, like a jump bet definitely, I mean like a bb like.

The thank you.

It's kind of a mal compliment.

Thank you.

Yeah, Yeah, you're you're alive.

Yeah for this whole career you have, yes, But.

What if you needed me to give you money?

What if you needed me to save you from this other career?

Wow?

Where you have a steam in your own home?

What if I need to save you and you can send you support your dental school that you're going to go okay.

So then he picked Peg.

First.

Were you surprised, Yes, I wish too.

Why are we surprised?

Did you think she was getting cut?

Well, I thought she was getting I thought she was gonna get cut because I thought I was gonna be Debbie and Cindy.

But then, like we were talking about with the whole Debbie energy of kind of a small town backyard barbecue, like put that put two and two together.

I didn't do that.

I thought Debbie was gonna win.

I thought was gonna win.

He was horneous for her.

I think he's definitely horny for Peg.

But I said, I thought Dakota was like I thought, I don't want to deal.

Agreed, But I don't think he's planning on picking Peg.

He's gonna pick Cindy.

I think he's gonna pick Cindy if he picks anyone.

But I think he maybe wants to do fantasy suits with Peg.

Agree to agree, okay, Evan Okay?

So then he picked Then he picked I stand before you humbled of I told you at the beginning of the season.

So he did another meakal bough idiot, idiot, And by the way, you've not gotten better you've got You've actually just doubled down what we all thought about.

You don't have to remind us we.

We've tolerated you because we have a contract with iHeartRadio.

I would be doing something else.

These his responses, his behavior, and all of these moments are so like chat gpt britten, Like this is what college professors are pulling their hair out about.

It's like, yes, you're saying the right things, You're on the right theme.

This is all sounds empathetic and warm, but there's zero emotion behind.

You're just being accurate.

You're not being heartfelt.

And it's so chilling.

This is why they made American Psycho because this behavior exists in male culture.

And yes, scary, Yes, are you guys going to hang out at my birthday party?

It's going to be a corner.

I'll be at the bar.

Yea alive.

Oh my god, I would love my guy.

I would love.

We just have like drunk people and you can walk over and later people walking over to the mic and my.

God, I'm recording it.

Can we set that up?

I thought, I'll.

Figure it out.

I'll figure it out.

No, no, no no, But I could figure out.

How single people could give you birthday messages and you know.

I like that.

Yeah, it could be about the dance moves.

I've started dating somebody and every year I get nervous about inviting them to my birthday party.

It's a lot, like it's kind of like meeting the family.

It's like it's a lot and it's it's an extravaganza, and I feel like a lot of guys can't Most guys can't handle it.

Every guy has not been able.

Is that a good test, though?

I don't know.

It's every single one of them can't hand What does that mean?

Can't handle it?

Katie?

You in a different light, because the way you were acting.

Is that it's just too much to like.

The last guy like seemed a little like threatened.

Yes, and you see he had his arm around you too tight all night, but he was like but then he also didn't like help clean up.

He laughed Burtley and hated him.

He like didn't talk to anybody any.

And he like wouldn't He just like left because I set the whole thing up and I cleaned the whole thing up, and he didn't help me.

He just laughed.

You shine a good test, though, I think it's a good test.

You need to have someone who you are the star and they can't handle They need to be able to handle that.

That's super weird to date you and not be like That's a big reason why I like her is her brightness.

It'd be weird to them you like, oh, and then don't be like you are so bright that like to not want you for the brightness is bizarre.

Ye, he can't handle like.

So first of all, they can't handle like like you being the center of attention at your own birthday party and they don't want to help set up or clean up.

Then they fucking saw.

Because the other person all there was the other person was threatened and also didn't want to help something like.

I think it's a good test, and I think if they can't handle it, then buy Or if.

You don't want them there because you're like, hey, I'm going to be distracted, then because it feels like.

But if he's like, you know, let me just pay for someone to come clean this up.

When it's early, that's that's hot.

That's hot.

It's it's it's like it's early, it's early days.

It's also like two months away.

It won't be by then interesting.

I mean it's like six weeks from now.

Okay, you have five weeks, like maybe invite them a week out if you're.

Feeling it, okay, because now it's early, I say like two weeks out.

Yeah, because it's a lot before you at my birthday party, it's a lot.

It's I mean, it's a great party.

There's zones to the to lose yourself in.

The great people here.

You want to hear the zones.

Front yard is a smoking section.

I buy packs of Marlboro lights.

I know the kids like American spirits.

I don't.

The house front front front room is the fireplace inside and the Christmas tree.

So it's like if you want to have a cozy fireside chat.

The front room is New England and people do.

Yeah.

Front room is New England.

But that's dining room is the taco bar, taco section.

This back living room is emptied out.

It's the dance floor.

This is the dessert hut.

Yeah yeah, there's not some music everywhere.

Then there's a fire pit where there's all sorts of like chairs around.

This is Lesbian Alley as self self proclaimed as they like.

Aaron Foley has claimed it, and there's like groups of girls that they've befronted each other here every year.

And then in the alley.

Yeah, yeah, no you could, you could visit, you can visit, you can visit, but this but quickly, so that's yes.

Yeah.

Then so then the bar is up in the patio where like you know, and that's where like you'll find Bert.

And then the guest house sometimes is open.

That's overwhelming when there's two because sometimes I feel like you need to contain the energy, right because sometimes that's more then like that's like we're a stoner.

That could be like people are smoking pot in the back.

Sure, that's like a side party.

Sometimes it's a whole second side party.

But I feel like sometimes it gets fractioned.

If there's have you been here when the guest house has been opened, and what did you think of it?

I have?

It seemed like you know, there's it's the least popping.

So it is if you want to like steal away for a quiet.

Bit of a green room.

Yeah, green rooms.

So is it fun to be able to find another building to explore or is it too many spots?

I don't think it's necessary to your party.

Okay, keep it, keep it tight, if.

If it's going to be open, then what's the theme of the other space?

You know what, I'm not going to do it because I do everything myself and it just adds more stress.

Yeah, you don't need it.

You've got so many great things to offer.

I have so many, I have so many and my little tiny.

House, your house is perfection.

Thank you.

I cannot wait.

But but it rises up and it feels like a mansion.

For one night, it feels like the biggest house in the world, even though it's like at the thousand square feet.

Well, if you need help getting it ready.

I do.

I will take you up a lot because I always do.

A boyfriend.

Oh my god, you'll be my boyfriend.

You'll be my birthday boyfriend.

Were you really?

Absolutely, that's the hottest thing anybody's ever seen.

I'm just I've been waiting for somebody to say to me, I'll be your birthday boyfriend because I've done it alone.

I've done it alone.

Well, it's about having a great time, and we're all your birthday.

Everybody comes my birthday, but you guys got my friend Rose.

Okay, okay, okay, okay, So here we go.

So then he cut Debbie cut Debbie obviously, and then she said I love you to to uh to care to peg peg and they said I love you to do each other.

She was so sweet and then and then Pig said, I'm sorry, I love you so sweet.

I hope they run off together.

Me too.

That's hot.

That can be a birthday boyfriend.

And then she goes, you touched my heart and she goes, well, another disappointment.

That's tough.

I mean, she would be like a bachelorette.

I'm not mad at that.

We were talking about that.

I feel like Debbie.

I would rather have Debbie than Carrol.

I think Debbie would be a great bachelorrette because I do like the idea that she's never had it.

But we were saying, we're like golden Bachelor's supposed to be about, like, like love doesn't go away just because you get older.

What about having somebody who hasn't had that type of relationship and has wanted that.

Yes, great, Yeah that's that's fair.

I like that.

I don't.

I don't think as a former reality television casting guy, I would not put her as the Golden Bachelor because she's kind of a drip and has been the entire time she's not that fun, like putting her the dates Like, I think she's a great woman, obviously a great mother.

She's more cool, but.

Not really fun enough to carry the franchise that's already in trouble.

You right, they need Carol.

They need someone that is bringing a little bit.

Do you want Carol?

I I think she's I want Peg.

Peg would be awesome, but PEG's about to win this thing.

Okay, then I'll take Cindy.

Cindy would be great.

I'll take I'll take Peg or Sinday.

I got crushes on both of them.

I do too.

I want to tell you, guys.

So I have this like horoscope app which I hate, which I canceled yesterday.

Look at what it is.

This is why I hate it.

Look at what it gave me yesterday, as I heard, because I only pulled this out to do the post of the week to do this with you.

Look at what it popped up yesterday on my phone.

Read that out loud.

This is my data glance.

What does it say?

You're a data glance?

You are?

You are a constellation of sadness.

Fuck off off.

But also I couldn't think of a different Yeah, I mean what you why would you text.

To someone times you put a hex on me?

For by the way, I was having a great day.

I have that pop up and say you are a constellation of said it like it like pops up to my lock screen.

You're a constellation.

Sadly hecks that app that that gives that app gives you negative things to to keep you on there.

Yes, it's probably owned by a palenteer, Like, get away from this app, a volunteer.

We're not going to get into Palenteer on your podcast, right, change the subject tell me after.

I don't know what it is, Okay, Yeah, I literally I was like, I don't I don't want like, by the way, what the whole thing is like, It's.

Just it is.

It's gear to keep you to like.

It's like it's like nagging you.

It's like I had that app in particular and it was always negative things.

I deleted.

I just okay, okay, here we go.

We're gonna take a quick break and we're gonna come back.

You're gonna tell me who wins, and then we're gonna take our guest for who's gonna be Bachelorette, and we're gonna do our post and tweeted the week.

Oh my god, they did not.

No, they did not.

Oh yes they did.

Hm and we're back.

Okay, Paul Danky, Yes, who do you think is going Is he gonna sleep with both of them?

Is he gonna pick one?

Are they still together?

And who is going to be the bachelorette?

You first, I think he's gonna pick Peg.

I think he's gonna take Peg to Fantasy Suite.

Well, both of them are going to Fantasy see.

Well, I think is he gonna bone both of them?

He's gonna try.

He's not gonna bone either of them.

What do you mean?

I don't think either of them.

I don't think they're gonna have sex.

I don't think they're having sex yet.

Why.

I just I feel like Peg would do it.

Peg might.

Peg feels fun.

I feel like Cindy with the good field.

Cindy's a little while.

Oh yeah, if you're a good boy, wants to win this thing, and she'll she knows working yeah, bon always.

She's like, I'll move to l you know what I mean, Like she's yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah whatever.

Peg definitely feels a lot more like you have the winner over my personal thing.

Okay, so you Okay, So so you think so you think he's taking you think Peg is going to fantasy suits.

Now that I'm reflecting back on, like the teaser for next week, Peg gets really emotional, like PEG's feelings are being hurt.

Yes, so it's gonna win.

It's basically like who's going to create the least the least amount of friction for him in this final episode?

And I think they're both going to give him a fucking ton of friction.

And it's gonna.

Because Sindy's gonna want an engagement.

Yeah, so he's gonna pick Peg.

Because she's gonna be like, I'm not moving to California with that an engagement, right, nor should she?

Okay, And so you think he's gonna pick Peg, They're not.

Are they still together?

Yes?

And and who's gonna be the next bachelorette Carol Okay, Evan.

I think he goes with Cindy because I think Cindy's like, yeah, she wants to be told that she's gonna that he loves her.

But I think that at the end of the day, Sidy's just a lot more like she likes l a she wants to be in like she likes the.

Fanfare of Ye daughter say that she thought she was gonna get caught up in La La Land.

Marry l A.

Yeah, she wants the magazine cover.

She wants the magazine.

I think she'll she'll come to more sacrifices to be an l ship, to kind of.

Like be in people.

Magaz think that she's.

Really attracted to the idea of being with the bachelor.

I don't disagree with this.

I think she's into it.

Okay, I think that Peg is like I like, I also think that he's not gonna propose to anyone or do any sort of that.

I think it's going to be like, let's just be friends and see if this works out.

I don't think anyone's together at all.

Okay, that's thought.

But I think And who's the next bachelorette.

I kind of want dev I mean what I think versus I mean I kind of want Debbie.

I agree that she is chill, kind of not super entertaining, but I also think that she's super raw.

Yeah.

I feel like she could be the one that's like sobbing every episode.

Yeah, And I just feel like that he's going to boom and bod.

Which would be the opposite of mel so I feel like, okay, Jess Ambrose.

Okay, So I would say that I think because Peg says she wants a fireplace and Cindy wants fire works, that he's more into the physical firework energy.

He doesn't want to be someone's fireplace.

So I think at this final point that PEG's going to open up more and it's going to turn him off because I think he thinks like, oh, you're chill, you don't really get go there bloys yeaheah.

So I think that then he's like, well, Cindy keeps talking about that she wants like this really passionate, and he's been talking about that's what he wants is like physical passion, all of that.

So I think he'd go more for Cindy.

But I think he's not going to choose anyone because I think that he'll he'll lean to Cindy, Cindy will be like, I'm not leaving unless you were getting engaged, and then kind of have a bachelor exit because I think maybe Cindy might want to be the bachelorette.

But I don't think they're going to make Cindy the bachelorette.

Do you think it's going to be I think it'd be Peg.

Okay, Peg.

I think maybe Peg'd be great.

She'd be great.

She's the kind of person I would want to get it and they'd be like, she's great, but she's not Hollywood enough.

Yeah, but I think I totally agree with you and Andy are reasoning for picking Cindy A very good These are great points.

Okay, kat money who he's going to pick and who's going to be the bachelorette.

I mean I have trouble knowing without seeing the episode, but based on every hanging.

Yah're saying, I think he's gonna choose Cindy.

Wait, but it's Cindy and Peg.

I think you're right that if he doesn't want someone that's going to open up that's gonna have an emotional attachment because he's not gonna end up with this woman.

So and then I hope it's Debbie because she deserves a happy end.

Me too, Okay, nothing says happy ending like franchise A.

Hopefully, I know what.

I know what you're saying.

Before the cast people slided at the DMS.

Please, I think it's gonna be Cindy because I feel like the edit of this last episode was she seemed to have the least successful, which sometimes makes you it's like a switcher roo.

And and I feel like since they were making out in her little cheerleader outfit, I think of all of them, he's hornious for her.

And I think, if you're a good boy, I think she's going to put on a show at Sandals or wherever they are.

And I think she is going.

And I think she wrote in her profile that she thought it was like her destiny.

She was the one that like really was like, this is my destiny for Bellow and this is the guy.

And I agree with you about the Hollywood stuff.

I hope they make PEG it.

I'm gonna just vision board it that is peg that we have a standback, stand back and they maybe do it like they'll do a little ABC makeover because she's because she's gorgeous, and they'll make her a little more l a and she'll just come be like she works hard, plays hard.

She could throw football and she's got a boom and look like I think.

That that they needed her.

She could they could dial on her lip color and I think it.

Was, Yeah, I don't know if.

It's kind of her whole face is kind of the same color, and I think that it really would benefit from a little bit.

Of just for cameras camera professional level to the lips he worked on Bridezilla's I did.

I was gonna say, I'm like, I didn't know of like that we had professional You didn't know.

You don't know that you were with I'm gonna knock on.

I'm gonna go do the door and still one to two million people A star A star one did two million paintings to go door to door.

I'm gonna go door to door and I'm gonna sell one to two million paintings.

I can't believe you didn't chime in and go, I'm sorry.

I ever heard you saying tell two million paintings?

Can you tell me?

Can I see?

She kept going back to.

She didn't keep going back to.

I had a neighbor and I've thought about him every day since we had a connection.

I'm gonna find him.

I've thought about him.

You know, we want that.

I heard that.

I'm like, and then if she figured out that I've been on television, she would figure out where I lived, and she would be like, because I keep finding Bengal cats.

She would be the new Bengal cat that I found out here.

I just knew I would be too exciting if I was like, wow, tell me more about your neighbor that.

She could triangulate and figure out when your birthday party would be?

Yeah right, yeah, yeah, yeah, all of it.

She would be here.

She would be here exactly.

So many paintings itself.

Okay, okay, so here we are.

We're gonna give away a sleep crown.

O good to the post of the week winter.

How's your sleep crown?

It's keeping my face nestled on the.

Nightly I bring.

I brought it with me to New York.

I have a brand new one.

You got the body pillow.

I also have the I have the mini body pillo.

It's incredible.

Do you want to feel it later?

Yes, you can feel.

It's incredible.

I want to feel.

So it's so great.

And I brought it and I have a hard time sleeping, and I slept in New York amazing.

And I forgot my body pillow at doctor Banana's apartment and she brought it to Waiting for for Good.

Oh and I so I had like my would be watching Bill and Ted do Waiting for Good, which is incredible, iconic, and I was clutching, clutching a fucking tree crown watching Keanu Reeves.

Do you Beckett?

Oh?

Peak?

My my life cycle is complete.

I've I've fulfilled my destiny.

I can I wasn't there, but I can see it so vividly.

Yeah, doctor Bana, you're crazy for bringing that.

Oh my god, she's a star.

She's crazy like a fox.

Okay, here we go.

We're gonna narrow it down to two and then uh and then and then the winner is gonna win.

This is from Shannon Muddler.

This might be their first post.

Oh welcome Shannon.

Mel.

I've enjoyed my entire day with PEG's family except for the godfather style pounding I endured from her urchin of a daughter and godfather style pounding.

That's very good, Pretty good.

Here's another one from I think in newcomer Melissa Raven eighty five.

Is it just me?

Or is mel giving fuck boy vibes?

During this conversation with PEG's daughter?

Also true you Yes, this is Rachel Rachel Delan twenty.

PEG's daughter heard those comments.

PEG's daughter came with questions.

PEG's daughter does not like mel that is she heard that fucking podcast.

Okay, So then we have Oh, this is from air RecA.

At air RecA, I think this is from last week.

Question for Katie since she's the official boner patrol of the pod.

The ice bath portion of the date happened before or after the tantric yoga.

Okay, Okay, great, okay question, Okay, exactly, that's a solid question.

And then my final, our final uh post of the week, Cindy Uh this is from Shannon Muddler.

Cindy, meet my daughter's mel and with Ie popping, I'm gonna tear it down to two.

I'm gonnaw it down to that one and Urchin do you guys feel good about that?

I feel good about that?

Okay.

So it's either Shannon Mudler mel I've enjoyed my entire day with PEG's family except for the godfather sell Pounding I endured from her urchin of a daughter, or also from Shannon Muddler.

So she's gonna win regardless.

Cindy, meet my daughter's mel Ouga shing ouga or Urchin Pounding.

I'm going.

Yeah, that was the first thing I thought when I saw the daughter's pull up.

I was like, he's in he did.

Okay, okay, okay, she hadn't a mother.

It is unanimous.

You want send me me and my daughter smell uga stream boy.

You want yourself, you want yourself a sleep Crown and shout out to Julie who's been sending sleepgrownds to everybody.

So send us your million at Rose podcast at gmail dot com.

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The code got out, so the code doesn't work anymore.

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And she's an icon, she will honor that.

Can I just say that's why we love our queen.

Do you know what I'm saying?

Do you get it?

Sleep Crowns?

We love our swing.

Okay, okay, you know what?

Okay, we didn't get any new reviews this week.

How about that.

There's gonna be no books given out.

We got emails.

But if you want to even throw your if you want to even throw your hattering, you gotta review us.

Guys, gotta review us, Gotta review us.

God, Okay, here we go.

I'm gonna give this to this person.

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Test way, do you see the photos of this guy?

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Okay, Paul, what would you like to promote?

Uh?

Do you check out my new EP?

It's up everywhere.

You could buy the finyl of it, and you can listen to my stand up albums and of course you can follow me on social media where.

Paul d A n k E.

Jess Evan what would you guys like to promote.

Check out your mom and Dad podcast.

It's so good.

You can find it everywhere also on YouTube and yeah, your mom and Dad podcast on Instagram.

You guys are so charming.

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Listen, I just want to knock on your door.

I'm gonna have one to two million panties gaded.

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It's really good.

Also another movie I think they're all up on like Amazon whatever, Year of the Fox.

And also incredible Gempstones.

So that was one of my favorite shows too, So seeing you on there was Yeah.

Thank you Evan.

Can I just say thank you so much that I was more excited about that because I'm a huge Gemstones fan.

I think last time we were here you were about to fly back and forth and it was very excited about that.

It was.

Can I just say Danny McBride did not disappoint.

He's as warm, he says, female friendly.

The cast was super welcoming.

I had the time of my life.

It was probably my favorite working experience I've ever.

You could tell because you were incredible.

You're so good and We.

Love our stiffler shout out Shoan William Scott.

A little beautiful angel bbe shy shy as the day is long.

We love our little shy by bees.

So cute, kt money, what would you like to promote?

As always, please go to your local shelter and adopt or foster a pet, especially in LA.

It's super full.

Yes, they really needed.

Also, there is an election coming.

Elections coming up across the country, but if you live in California, please make sure to vote in this election.

It's just one little thing.

Yes, it doesn't take a lot of time.

Oh that cat is This is the cat?

Okay wait wait here, go.

To a ballot box.

Drop off your ballot in a ballot box.

I would not really trust them right now, so maybe do that.

Look at the cat.

Look at the cat.

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Cat cool?

Are they cute?

I like a black cat.

Go adopt the cat, Go adopt a dog, foster adopt a black animal and be kind to that.

Adopt, adopt the animals, and on your way go vote and the same day.

You guys, what a good time.

Until next time, My name is Arte Marine.

I we probably only have like two we have.

Two more episodes, and yeah, the last one is I looked at us Fantasy finale.

Yeah no, it's you know it's it's at the finale is the sixth November.

It's women till all next week in the finale the week.

After, because I was like, how is there only two left?

I'm excited for women?

Tell all, I really.

Am you want to come back?

Come back and to be salty.

The resulting that one who said we were prettier than last season, she really was gunning.

She felt like somebody that was walked door to door and try to solve it.

I'm the twin, okay, and so next time my name is.

Oh yeah, we're gonna get all up and you tonight.

It feels so good.

I just got one little question where.

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