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Guys.

We're in very bougie quarters right now, and I'm not talking about Ryan Rye Rush.

How you say my remodeled garage have been Answer.

Ryan Seacrest, I'm okay.

It feels like Ryan seacrests.

It feels very on air with Ryan.

I can smell a Seacrest.

I'm very on air with Ryan.

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My name is Artemarine, coming to you next to my f FA favorite banana and we're near Radio City Music Hall.

Don't talk to me unless I've had my seventeen minutes of sleep.

I wouldn't know who I was if I did this podcast well rested.

But here's the thing I am here.

I'm next to my banana and she is wearing a fruit sweatshirt.

You know her, Doctor.

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Welcome to the program, my physician, my financial advisor, and the wind beneath my wings.

Doctor Banana, tell me about your switch shirt.

I got it at a thrift store in Puerto Rico.

Hot when you went to see Bad Bunny.

It was actually another time I went, Okay, I love I love me pr.

I've never been to the pr ooh.

Quick flight from here.

Look, I I love it.

I my dad got kicked out of college because he took a quick flight to Puerto Rico and a dare.

Okay, it seems like a lot of his businesses on a day.

My dad was a real wild card and that accounts for you know what his blood is in me.

But then it was crafted by JJ.

They're that rip shout out JJ.

Pour one out for J.

And by that I mean a white wine spritzer, because she'll be up in your business if it's anything harder banana.

How are you?

I'm good.

Did you enjoy our sting Ray episode?

That was the funniest.

I was at the gym every.

Time, like if you don't listen to our Stingray episode and just keep going on it, like keep going on it.

One person got mad from the week before we got We got an angry review not from Stingrays, but about me, as if I was like pro pussy Possey.

They were mad that I was explaining the Pussy Posse and I kept calling them iconic, but it was also.

They are iconic because they regardab Why are these people so anti sex?

By the way, it was young men they were discussing, but it was a thousand years ago, and their nickname was the Pussy Posse.

But somebody pieced out we got like a one star review because of the pussy Pussy.

I'm sorry to break it to you, but that's called.

Culture, thank you, honey, that's called history.

Lessons in culture, and uh so dumb, so dumb.

Okay.

I know Lily Allen has that new song Pussy Palace, and people love it.

It's her number one song right now.

So I don't know what to tell you.

I mean, pussies are in.

Pussies are hot right now.

If you're gonna be in a trivia thing at the end of the year about what happened in twenty twenty five, Finally, pussies are popular.

Pussies are popular.

David Harber is apparently a bad person.

I've been listening to this album a.

Lot, Okay, I need to listen to the album, and I have to say, I'm I think I feel like I'm on Lily Allen's side because I because it seems like he was like.

He was doing all sorts of weird stuff.

Oh f here's my take and you can fill me in on this.

In my mind, she was like, we're on love for getting married.

He loves me, and he publicly was like, I love my wife.

And then he was like, what you're going off through quote I gotta get off.

I'll get to get my nuts off at the side that he talked, right, and then.

Yeah, there's a line she sings in the song that he said to her, if it has to happen, do you want to know?

Ew By the way, I've had people say, sorry, stranger things, is not that good to me?

Where do you get off where?

Well, apparently everywhere everything.

Thank you.

It's great to be back here.

We're at the iHeart Studios.

Okay.

To my left is a woman that, first of all, you were such a hit as our newest as our newest people's princess, the rookie rookie, the most pure person in America, and our friendship like a slow cooked meat is marinating.

Yeah, it really is, you know what I mean.

We've just been spending time first of this is my my writing partner.

We're gonna write.

We're gonna win Indie Spirit Awards, We're gonna win, We're gonna win Sundance at We're gonna win the Olympics were But I feel like we've now we've we've been late Night and you've seen so you we you just directed a movie that I did that I finished last night, and you saw you got to really meet late Night.

Matt Ronger used to.

Call it wolve Marina.

No, it's not for everyone, but people that love it amazing.

Okay, so you've traveled with me, you've seen it.

You've seen it.

It gets crazy.

It's just like it off lifts everyone, especially on a set when everyone's like the waning hours of the night so tired.

Arden is just like the best energy in the world.

I will say this for a second idea.

It was always like this quiet on the set.

You shut the fuck up, I said, okay, quite on the set, everybody kind of you shut the fuck You're an adult, You're.

The best hours are like midnight to three a.

Oh, midnight to four hundred peaky, because it gets even crazier from three to four sea.

I made Rob Benedict hang out with BBB was there, Rob Bennedict, Michael Longfellow was there.

Come on, and then we got I got crazy.

I played a woman named Laura, and from like two to four it was this, I'm Laura, I play Laura.

This is me walking to the sea.

I'm Laura.

I have a secret.

There rocks in my pocket anyway.

Okay, so yes, so, ladies and gentlemen, thank you.

Well, I had to see a dirty secret.

It was that I panished and killed a man at Rock and roll.

Rals is my secret, but it wasn't in the script, but I just played it that way.

So here we you know.

She's she's one of the directors and producers of the eck this hit, and we're also writing the future like everything winning Hooky Year.

Ladies and gentlemen, my friend and the rookie rookie Clara Neviz.

You're welcome.

And I'm gonna call you a Rhode Island accent because I like to call her and lap becus Laren.

I'm gonna call you Clara.

I love it.

Okay, how do you feel about that banana?

Can you do that?

Try it?

I want to try it, Clara, Clara great okay with us as a man?

Can I just say this man's commitment.

I've seen your ankle, and I'm not saying in a way that you're flirting with me and you're trying to like drop your handkerchief over a puddle, which was that too.

I've seen your ankle too.

This is a man who loves his birthday as much as I do.

And if anybody knows me, they know it's coming up.

A I don't know why you're so committed to your family and you know, just like ditch your responsibility, hop on a play and come dance all night with like Jerry O'Connell, because I know you've done it before and you could do it in my living room.

But here's what I want to say to you.

He has a comedy show coming up and I can say it, but he can't say it.

It's that the Chelsea Music Hall.

Correct me, yes, but they changing the name, that's right.

But the address is.

Four oh seven West fifteenth Street.

It's going to be next Tuesday.

Is coming Tuesday the eighteenth.

And it's is once a month.

It's this is the Thanksgiving show.

Oh my gosh.

So there's going to be people in Turkey outfits are you.

And he always has drop it.

You never know a show.

Jeff Ross showed up at the Halloween show.

Okay, I mean literally, this is my favorite stand up show in New York whenever I come here.

If you guys love live comedy, Clara, you gotta go.

I know it gets weird that she hasn't.

Yeah, you guys have you know, we really have a friendship.

I have a horrible tendency to over commit today.

Okay, I just love people so much and I can't say no because I could be in a million places at once.

Clara's dad is also my friend.

And she said to me that you said a very nice way about you, that you were funny and nice.

And my dad listened to the bod gossip.

He can't stop listening.

He loves it.

He loves it, and he loves that.

He looks you would be friends with my dad.

You would be.

Friends with him.

We're probably the same age.

Honestly, I think you're younger.

Yeah yeah, but he but he loved said that.

I want you to know that, mister Nevins, and he says, my name, Ate Janet is mister Nevins.

If you're nasty mister Nevers loves Seth and but but it was like, why do you guys?

You guys should have gone I know, I know.

Well my dad's in to on Tuesday, and.

Will are you gonna is there gonna be a turkey in a boot?

I will not be in the turkey off it.

Other people will be in.

The turkey off What are you dressed up as?

Oh?

I'll just wear something else.

But pilgrim house maybe something maybe, but what.

We traditionally do give traditionally, and we may change it this this year.

Yeah is I say at the the opening of the show, I say, who wants to drink.

For free tonight?

Okay I do?

And then someone raise their hands and bring them on stage and say, here's what you gotta do.

You wear this turkey outfit for the whole show.

Just sit on the side over here, yes, and you can get drinks brought to you all night.

And whenever any performer says turkey dance in the middle of their set, you got to do a thirty second dance and the keyboard player will play something that's fun.

And then every year the person the dances get longer and longer as the show goes on.

Getting drunker and drunk, and they get sillier and silly.

Fine, I come for the comedy, stay for the turkey.

Dancethough last year the girl was like a professional dancer and didn't know that was going to be the thing.

And she did these like insane.

Were they too were they too good?

It was good enough, too good the sense that the audience went nuts.

They were like cheering and clapping and going nuts the whole time.

And I was like, Oh, this isn't going to get drunkers is going to get better, Like she's just going to get more professional.

Yeah, we don't want, we don't want.

It worked fine, everyone's still loved want.

My mom with a four white wine sprinsters.

She like pop, locking and dropping.

It was more like ballet and jazz.

It's just really professional.

You know what we have found?

Yeah?

Yeah, it's like you're like a real deal dancer to.

The north of the Tonight shows.

Yeah, here I am.

That's right.

But you're also the People's Princess of New York City.

People's Princess people of New York City.

Branded that on the back on my back about my butt, Ye princess says PP this way, But I only know that because that's what David Harbor told me.

Yeah, I know you.

You're You're the final straw.

There are parts of her album where she starts naming people.

She'll be like, who's Madeline?

Could you imagine those?

Like yes, oh my god, the people's h tonight show?

Sweet because okay, wait, so I want to also say what you were saying about the two professional we've had sometimes when we do the bell House shows where we've had people come on stage, certainly not when people were competing to go on a date with me, but for jeekies that I felt like there were so some people who were like really wanted to be on stage.

The fellas that came up.

It was a different situation by the way icons and kings shout out.

But so, so you had very good dancers last time.

We want to make sure nobody's actually ever taken a dance lesson.

Right, But how do you know that?

You just don't use asked he wants to drink and then they come on stage and like the time before that, it was this woman from Google who was like.

Oh that's fun.

Team leader.

She was like ohack, and she had her whole office with her fine and they were just loving the fact that she was blackout drunk.

That's fun.

That's an HR crisis.

I don't know how I feel about it.

Got it was fun.

Everyone had fun.

Who was on that year?

Oh yeah, Colin Quinn was on and he called me the next day and was like, is she okay?

That's fine because she was blackout?

Okay, okay, you know what I want.

I don't know the venue.

I don't know what happened.

Isn't that in the Google Building?

She's like, never to be sate like that?

Well we what York Google Building.

Yeah, that's a lot of buff down, that's a lot about you know what, Chelsea Peer, Chelsea Pier.

I went and took trap Peas lessons there once in a wig and I'll be with you.

I went with my friend Rob Ryan Is who married who married Henry Winkler's daughter, and he wanted to do it, so we did it.

And it was quite windy and in order to have you ever done a trap peace lesson, it was I'm pretty I'm pretty brave.

It was frightening.

I'll go on any roller coaster, but I realized it's because I'm starting on the ground.

You know what, I mean, so the platform in order to not hit your head, the platform is so tiny and you have to really have trust and who's like holding you to reach out and get the thing so that you can like not hit your head when you come back.

It's it's quite along.

I didn't like it.

I didn't like it.

Okay, great, we give the things I don't like.

Mellow as you guys, Okay, God bless peg.

Can I just say they are so lucky.

They got the most gregarious warm, like just charming, authentic, camera friendly.

The gaslighting of Mellows, I mean good, first he hate the lawyer brain, I'm gonna say.

And we've had some terrible male leads and I'm talking about you.

Claytor.

Clayton Clayton, remember with Gabby, Oh my god.

Did he come out?

That was Colton alta bad Clayton was the one that like jumped the fence and then stalked it and then came out clay toor was in the Hillary Clinton suit coat and was like he had sex with all of them and then it was in the echo chamber.

He loved on the mall and they was in the echo chamber in Iceland and then Gabby was like, why did she left?

And then he made her come back and then it was.

Like came out as a bad damn on TikTok.

Yes, he could be you're drunk.

Oh yeah, I'd love to have Clayton on the show.

We all would, Okay, overall.

Rookie, rookie, you're a smart woman, you like yourself, You get you get one hundred and twenty seconds.

What do you what do you wanted to say to him?

Out?

What did you?

What did you wanted?

Yeah?

During his speech to Claire, I'm to Cindy.

Oh my god, the he was so it was so hurtful.

Everything he was, he kept blaming her, He.

Kept blaming her.

It's and I'm also like, I want to ask her clarification please.

The ring is sort of a promise ring, right.

The ring isn't supposed to be a proposal.

That she was his ring that he gave yes peg was not a no.

It was so generally historically, the conceit of the show is you're the bachelor and you're gonna get engaged.

Right, And he gas let her and acted like it was the fantasy.

You saw the lawyer brain come out.

It was so and he didn't back down.

He was just stuck stuck on sorry I cut.

It, No no, no, I yeah it was so he was stuck in a loop about it, and he made her gas, he gassled her, He made her second guess herself.

It seemed I the last episode I watched was the last episode that we had capped on the show, and it seemed like that Griffith Park moment between them and I know there's been more that's happened since then, was so contradictory to what we saw and thank you, and it just seems like was he spooked.

I don't understand why he spooked, because it's not like she was talking about marriage and what Yes talking about with Peg was very similar.

But why couldn't you have just been straight up?

It seemed like that was maybe a way of masking that he didn't actually like.

Her that much.

I think that Peg was just hearty enough to be like, I don't care, okay, Like I think we saw that.

And I'm not even saying this in a flip and way.

I'm sincerely asking because my dad did have dementia when he said up top when when they had the recap, and she goes, how do you feel about me, and he's like, like that ride was fun.

I'm like, is something off?

Yeah, points like last episode or the episode before where he's one of them is like it is definitely yes.

But he said someone said something like you know I really they said something that he responded with thank you, which didn't make any sense to the ques, like whatever the person said, and he said thank you, and I was like, this guy's fucking y.

I think he honestly when he would be like yeah, yeah.

Uh huh, yeah, he is the nightmare yeth.

I think there's also going on some kind of fundamental difference between him men and women think and react to things.

I really do believe that.

And I also believe that he's just not a guy who knows how to talk about his feelings and never when he was dig deep, he doesn't want to talk about it.

And the whole last few episodes are all about you talking about your emotions I feeling and he's like, can't do it.

And also maybe he was being honest in his own way, but like he just didn't want to go out with Cindy anymore and want to say it.

Yeah, she basically like wasn't go with the flow enough for him.

Yeah, and that was what he needed.

I mean, and to be real, at that point, you've had like two dates tops, and and when Cindy's like, I am in love with you, I do see if you're a sixty whatever, sixty five year old man, you're.

Like, the fuck are you talking about?

Making it?

Hung out with you twice?

Yeah, and maybe if we had gotten down in the fantasy suite, I feel different.

But he didn't you even want to do that, which was a weird to me.

So that put like a mental block in his head.

Yeahah, and he just felt like, I made my choice now, and how do I keep up the charade when I've already decided?

The stingrays were a turning point.

I do think.

Do you think if he'd gotten down with Cindy in the fantasy suite that he you said it was?

Now?

After seeing everything, I think he really couldn't handle the commitment level that Cindy wanted out.

Of the back that fast.

Yeah, Like, yeah, it seemed like she wanted to go fast, but she's also not wrong to be like, I don't want to be with anyone no matter how serious it is.

That does it?

What was a quote eighting yes, lighting struck, I.

Agree with you you want because he kept being like, yeah, I like you.

It's like, no, your time is so valuable and at sixty, at whatever age, you know what you want, and for him to not value that, she's totally in her right.

I liked that, and I felt like, I feel like even in certain friendships, like there's certain people that I've had in my life where I'm like, they've never asked me on a meal, even friends, or I'm like, I want every aspect every relationship I have to feel reciprocal, like.

Where and you always know when it doesn't have.

You start to be like even if you're crazy about somebody, Like even in a friendship where you're like, okay, I've now.

I've I'm making the plans.

Every time, and if I really am honest with myself, I don't know that they've ever set it up themselves and like, and it doesn't mean I don't enjoy them, but like.

You're like, Okay, I know where I stand in their head, and that's gives me information and I can see how I want it right.

But I've hit the point where it's it's got to be reciprocal, banana.

No, I agree, I've I've you do something I always say, like, you can't chase a grown man around the city.

I really can't.

No, I've said that to many mittens of face.

I'm like, they're like, well you didn't hear me out, and I'm like, I'm not chasing no grown as well.

I have a question, yes, sorry, questions for the group.

How do we feel about the statement if they wanted to, they would, meaning like if they wanted to land.

I agree with it, that's true.

I agree that I do.

I think I've had I've seen some friends desperately trying to make a relationship work and like dragging a guy to therapy, like dating them in the first year, and you're like, okay, like even if it hurts your feelings that they're not doing, like they're letting you know and like you might.

They might be two ounces of water and you might be an eight ounce glass.

You know what I mean.

It's like like what or or they may he does not like you enough.

And there will be somebody that does all those things that seeds the expectations.

Agree to agree, Yeah, well, here we are and we have.

By the way, the first fifty minutes, we're just a recap of last week.

It was confusing.

I was like, did I watch this already?

I felt like I literally kept clicking.

I was like, am I the wrong app?

So they just not get enough of them talking.

They have to fill two hours, so we're just going to repeat last hour as the first home.

I honestly think they got hat on their hands, the worst, most boring and resistantly they've ever had.

That wouldn't even Jesse kept being like, well, we do know that they're not, like he wouldn't play the reindeer games, And I think that they I'm sure if this was the best they could cut together and imagine.

By the way, it's also the first time when we saw the upcoming bachelorette we saw like she's all dressed up in a gown.

I was like, who's this woman in the fucking ski hat?

Like, sir, who's manipulating her exactly?

I'm like, there's like we're watching an episode of Unreal there's Sherry apple Bee and like just being like you, like Tony, don't you you know what I mean, Like, don't you want to cut Brad like fully?

Yeah?

He said from that interview, not feel like maybe they're encouraging her to be crazy.

They want to be crazy.

They're like, what isn't she a little crazy?

Oh yeah?

When he brought her that drink, I was like, don't bring her that drink.

As soon she started talking, I was like, what is going on with her?

Tell us about give us mormon Mormon.

She she's a Mormon TikTok.

Star she Apparently the swinging wasn't that they hooked.

It wasn't that they like, Okay, if you guys are a couple of Clara and I are a couple, right, it's not that I'm with you and it's like we're just side by side in the same room.

So that's still sweeting.

I thought they were still soft swinging though, but I like, it's like they're not having sex, but they're like making out with each other.

But second, the same room.

Based on my understanding, I.

Heard it was not even but it was still just like but then the husband wife husband wife was the same room.

The scandal was that she then took it too far with another husband.

So she actually did hook up with another husband, yes.

And that was what destroyed mom talk to begin with.

Oh as opposed to mom talk, which is Summerhouse, Kyle Kyle Neighborhood, Kyle Whitney's at Bravo kon right now.

Jealous obviously.

Okay, So she keeps saying that Carl's outfits are insane.

Here we are guys.

Were like leather pants with like cowboy boots that are like calf skin.

It's like, that's trust, that's what seth.

He's gonna wear a butt and tell the listeners about your ankle.

Our king is in pain.

It's hard to be a princesses, especially the princess and the peak.

So I was jogging to a cab on Saturday night that stopped too far from me, and there was like a vape cartridge on the ground that was like oval.

Shaped rock.

Was yours?

It is last so mad?

And I rossed my ankle.

It's like yeah, and I rocked my ankle so violently, I like cracked the bone.

That's sild.

Yes, a babe cartridge took out.

No, I'm sorry, anti babes, that's true.

Anti babes now, oh my god.

And I still went to the party.

It's killing.

Where was the party?

It was forty third and six.

Was it fun?

Yeah, it was super fun.

I'm got.

I went Who's party?

It was the SNL post party when they had a nikki and everyone there.

Oh yeah, okay, great worth it has fun.

Yeah, okay, great, okay, so so so Peg and Mel we see them after their fantasy suites and we see the same thing I saw your story.

I had to on my story.

I'm obsessed with that.

I'm obsessed with how she says vulnerable.

She goes, I wrote that I've been I'm really opened up.

First of all, I love Peg, She's an icon.

Yes, I wish she was going to be the female lead, but I'm happy that they seem happy.

She goes, I've don't work feeling vulnerable.

You try saying, how do you think she says?

She says it vilnernable or something like that.

How do you think she says it vulnerable?

How do you think.

It's a dialectble novada accent.

I'm really hard.

I mean she was saying valuable something as a combination.

It's like the brandolina of vulnerable variable.

And then we.

Sud they say like vols vulnerable they kind of will say like vul So this is a new take on vulnerable.

Well, pussies are in this year.

Pussies are in.

Thank you David Harber, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, Leo, Thank you Leo, Thank you Leo.

Pussy Party, praise be Watch why Slice like preach preach under his watchfuly so.

Then we have okay, so Cindy again rewatching.

Both of them were like, he doesn't ask me any questions.

You don't want to be a person that The main thing they have on camera to edit about you you're the lead, is that you're the least curious person.

You don't ask anyone any question.

Terrible dating, dude.

I've been on a lot of dates like that, no questions.

You're like, and they have a great time.

It's like, yeah, because I'm fun, I'm fine, and I know how to keep a conversation.

I could, I could keep a conversation.

Going with them.

I just great, thank you.

Yes, yes, I mean and they because usually they protect their lead.

I mean this guy, Yeah, this guy.

They definitely edited him the best they could and he still came off like someone has no idea how to talk to anybody.

Then we have in the audience Gary is it now is Teresa?

They're stuck with the other, and they stuck with the other women, and they didn't even introduce.

Her that he's engaged to.

He's already engaged toget he's he's got a hand and teeth.

He had like on like a fun mock turtleneck.

Dude, he's the old he's the old goal to be.

He fooled He did he fool you like he fooled me?

I guess.

I mean I had no problem with Gary except the fact that I knew he was kind of like a horn dog.

But we knew that anyway.

But he spells it Gary.

Yeah, it's with a G.

It's right.

Yeah, pronounces it Jerry.

No, he pronounces it Gary r wy.

It's Gary, but it looks Jerry.

It's crazy.

That's Joan and.

Chalk and then and then weird a commercial.

Does he have a sleep apnea?

Chalk is out here influencing for old people.

Oh, he's loving it.

He's got spond con.

Yeah, he has a sleep apnea commercial?

What yeah?

Have you seen it?

I have seen it?

Wow?

What is the air during this show?

This show?

Right?

Okay, okay, and then he's they're like, this year has been a whirlwind, Like okay, like it just was it was just it is what it is.

I also hate when Jesse calls the couple and be like, what's the latest, Like, what do you expect us to say?

I have HPV?

Yeah, I broke my ankle.

Yes, then we also have uh, Joan and Chalk.

I don't have HPV.

Okay anyway, So then Gary with Leanna Jessin Spencer, she's moving to Dallas.

Good luck girl, good walk.

What did you think of Justin Spencer?

I had forgotten who they were, but then as soon as they showed up, I remembered, Oh them, they're from the Paradise.

Me too.

I also for I flush it out so fast.

I thought he I remember him.

As soon as they put him on, I was like, oh, he was like a dufust ye, a lovable dufist.

And they were really in love as far as cute.

Yeah, they were like involved from the day one.

I wish them well.

I hope it works out.

I think it will.

They seemed really into each other.

Okay, So then here we are Cindy is Cindy's concerned and she's like, okay, you know, She's like, I know that you're torn between two people, but I want to remind you that I have an overwhelming amount of feelings for you, goodwill for you, my heart, in my heart, I like you a lot.

And he's like, yeah, I like you too.

You're nice.

You're not someone I hate.

Yeah, dude, and she's like and then he's like and she's like, okay, Well, She's like, look, I'm not here just to explore options.

I'm looking for a life partner, you know.

And he's like, look, I don't know, I don't know.

I can't give you that.

He just is.

This is when he tells he goes, my heart tells me, I like you, yes, So you're not speaking for me.

I'm just speaking for my heart says, which is not me.

It's a totally different entity, dude.

This coming.

And then she kept trying to be like She's like, okay, well, you know, I came here because I wanted a future husband.

If I wanted to date, I could have just stayed in Austin.

But this is the whole premise of the show.

But I want my guys to feel like he's struck by lightning.

Clara rookie rookie, I mean, And then they were like, is he going to go after her?

And he didn't.

He didn't totally tells you everything.

It tells you everything.

If he wanted to do he would, and he didn't.

Do you, how do you feel about it?

If he wanted to, he would.

I think it's so true.

I think I deal with it a lot with my friends when they're like, a guy is a bad texter, and I really think that it's a You could have a conversation about it and just be like, this isn't our medium of talking, Like we're not going to text all day.

But if that is something that is important to one side of the relationship, the other one can totally change their behavior.

And I think that's very true on you know, a lot of everyone's kind of non negotiables.

Okay, so you have some friends who are like they text a lot and.

Yeah, or just they want a guy to reply back to them and they don't.

And you're like, Okay, well, if he really liked you and he knew that was important to you, I think he would do that.

Yeah, if he was a good person.

Yeah right.

Although there are some women who will literally even though they're at a job's supposed to be working, or like sending messages all day.

Yeah.

I mean, I don't like my boyfriend and I don't text at all all day because I also think it's so much.

Better to them talking personally.

Yeah, yeah, I'm not.

I don't like.

Texting that much, so I don't know if that's a good example, But yes.

Are you a text for banana?

It really depends.

I don't like to be bothered, though.

If someone texting me a lot during that, I have to be like, I am working.

Yeah, I like a text.

I like it fun If you're a funny text, you got to be a funny it's got.

To be like, there's got to be something good happening.

But if they're just like h, I make exceptions.

For Arden is the best text in the entire world.

And sometimes you get a voice memo, you get a long.

Text, so the voice to text is lyricous.

Sometimes it comes out so cuckoo and you're like, sorry, what are you trying to?

Siria doesn't understand me and I can't see it.

I give me your own Siri just for you.

You will get that eventually.

AI is going to have doesn't understand me and I can't see so I don't double.

Check it's funny.

And I've said some crazy I've said some things that I really shouldn't be fine airing off and I people that I really don't know professional things that like I really should have a glass an editor.

I shouldn't be voiced to text.

The punctuation is nuts.

It will also look like I don't know the difference between your and you are or whatever, or like your friends.

It's fine because we're all just like, Okay, I have a feeling what she's trying to say about were.

Laughing about this week.

Brian was also saying about what a bad texture I am, and so was Rob at the because they were in the movie and they were saying that, Like when I was dating son Yum and he Brian texted me, how are things with going with son Yam?

And it texted me how are things with Santa ma'am?

And I don't know.

It was crazy what you called Santa or that I make him call me ma'am?

How are things?

How are things with Santa ma'am?

I think there's like a comma after excuse me, ma'am.

That's mam.

Punctuation is really important.

How are they to Santa?

Ma'am?

Are you are you a texter?

I do?

I do?

I sometimes I have relationships with also certain friends and other past girlfriends who are just like, it's all day, all day, and I have to train them by only responding to certain ones, okay, and that trains and being like, I'm not responding all these Okay, I'll respond to the ones I think are important.

I like a lot of text.

I like it.

At some point, I'm like, I have other stuff I have to do.

I mean, we all do.

That's why you don't.

That's why you multitext and just fire off crazy ship, you don't, you know what I mean.

Look, Lauren Lopkus and I text all day every day.

I love that.

That's that's important.

And we also we have we have it going on the text and the Instagram DM.

We have the the buy.

That's a very oda.

We have the double.

We sometimetimes it will send something on the DM, but then we don't want an immediate reply there and then we'll go to like well, then we'll text and we'll comment and the well sometimes crossbone.

That's such an Internet thing, yeah, just like your different like play spaces, yeah.

Yeah, and what do you talk about?

Well, sometimes when it's when it's something that like that, we would have to get walk into the sea if something it depends.

Do you do that for Instagram or for do you say walking into the sea for Instagram?

Well she's a pretty bold swing, okay, so when she walks into this sea, I'm like, don't damn.

I know, I do have a little fear.

Sometimes you should get my phone.

No you should.

No, That's why I try to like delete as we go.

It's like it's nothing interesting, but there's also a lot of like, like my most recent obsession is the uh Bradley Cooper is a transformation to Barry Manilow is seventy three percent complete, like like photos like that, Yeah, and then she'll be like upper bluff, you know what I mean, stuff like that.

That's fun.

That's fun.

But we'll see it so the but like we'll send stuff like that and then we'll guess like what was done?

You know, things like that that's fun.

And then or like or if we think someone's like cheating on their wife or something, we'll send like a post that It'll be like when when they'll do like an overly lovely post like on the wife's birthday, it'd be like, oh did you see Like it's like when we know they're probably off being like do you really want to know David harboring it?

You know what I mean?

We're like, okay, oh, there's a very big birthday post for so and so for somebody that were like, right, okay, bro.

So sometimes we'll shield send the post and then we'll text and be like check your DMS and then But but it makes me all.

That's funny.

You don't do you guys, you don't do that follow a lot of people.

I know, but I but I could go, I don't follow.

You follow people that just to make fun of them.

No, but I might.

I might search somebody that's hurt my feelings in the past and then be like, look at this, it's not my most attractive quality.

But late at night.

Yeah, sometimes we all have our late at night or somebody that you like.

It's like, you know, our lizard brain.

We all have our person late at night.

You're like, whatever happened is so is so, And no matter what, whatever.

Level of my lizard brain is the point where I want to know.

But I forgot their name.

Oh that's happens.

What happened to this lovely person whose name I can't even Yes, what's your.

Lizard brain, Like who do you at your worst moment, you know, when you'll like keep digging in the internet until you find something bad that will make you feel bad.

Like you're like it's like you're chasing the dragon of like a piece of candy.

What mine right now?

It's with Ali?

Okay, is we have a friend who's a stylist.

Yes, I know I really shouldn't even say this, but I hear it.

Yeah, they won't hear it.

God, there's such a bad stylist.

Yeah.

We can just back and forth, like the way, by the way I like celebrities.

Yeah, well kind of around there.

Yeah yeah, hi, yeah, you know, we just go back and forth.

Be like like the outfits are.

Just really bad.

They're just so boring.

It'd be like being like you guys together this turtleneck, like you don't even like I finally.

Hilo, you know exactly, or like yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, but it's not you know, like I want to I almost like want to say something to be like come on and you gotta pick it up.

I need to see some something.

What kind of lizard brain do you have, Clara, Clara, what kind of Okay?

Two things.

One is I feel like I have such a sweet tooth I love.

Yeah, I'm like, oh, like I love a sweet tree all the time.

Yeah, like all of my friends like I actually have an Instagram account, there is not so active today where I'm with one of my best friends.

We rate snacks like a big like I love a snack, I love a crunchy thing.

I love So Lauren, Lauren, I need to meet.

No, you will at my birthday party?

Okay, no, you both so Clara did craft service.

And don't let me loosen to Costco.

It's bad, dude, this snat you're curating because I mean you really you you curated?

May I please swear you curated the fuck finally?

Can I finally swear finally you curated the fuck out of that long island, that long island?

Costco?

How are you even approached the aisles?

Like, how did you know?

Did you off road?

Did you know about those weird protein bars?

Because those were good?

Were good.

I had a sense I looked at the ingredients.

I think I do a good job prioritizing, like a balance of healthy and not healthy.

Dude, can we give a shout out towards what we want to be?

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Yeah, it sounds like sounds like a rapper.

Drizzlicious.

Are these little many rice cakes that have like drizzles of flavoring on them.

Like the birthday cakes tastes like fun fetti.

The sugar.

Yeah, but it's just the right amount of calories.

Get bag or big.

It's gonna it's gonna scratch if you want, like the world, it's going to scratch the itch of like the peebee fit.

It's you kind of need to have like a lot of them.

You kind of like not a lot in the bag.

It appeals to my twenty five year old disordered eating disordered.

It appeals to like it doesn't scratch the fully of a it's more like a lunchtime yesner, if you have.

Ever had disordered eating in your life, and I'm not and I'm not encouraging that, and if you're not, I'm not encouraging that.

But let's be real, who hasn't Who hasn't We all have to live here.

It's like from my it's not.

Part of my disordered eating over the years has been how do I beat the system.

How do I get to eat fifteen Magnolia cupcakes but still keep it toy?

This is how it's kind of like I want to I want to beat the man.

And I will say that we had those and we also had brownieasing you.

No, that's great, agree about it.

It's not purely but like it appeals to like the side of you back in the day.

If you ever had like a carbol light frozen yoga, it's probably you're probably gonna have malatol in your's going to get mad by the end of the day.

So look, you might not have ever struggled with that, but I don't.

That's how much I've struggled with.

Oh that's okay, Okay, great hot.

I like that.

By the way, Yeah, that's the kind you earn.

You don't just hand that out like type one to you.

Earn that respect.

Look my I mean, come on, my dad had a cookie hammer.

So let's well the story for a different day.

So okay, we're going to take a break and we're gonna come back and we're gonna get back on the road.

Yeah, oh, bone zone.

Time for the bone zone.

Let's give you.

I was gonna say one of the greatest moments I think I've seen in a Bachelor episode was how they split up.

They're like, we're not doing this anymore.

I'm leaving you sitting in different places in the fireworks.

Is incredible, dramatic and dramatic at the Okay, so let's talk a Cindy.

Cindy goes out, She's like, she was lovely beautiful.

I felt like she kept her I feel like I she kept her poised while being gasolic completely and she was like, let me make it clear, I want you to be happy.

But and what like, no, there's no I am not going to chase a man to make him love me.

And it felt she think it.

Was a classic.

She was elect struggle that a lot of women have gone with, like I love this guy, I want him to let meet the place where I'm at, and he's not going to do it.

Do I settle for that or not?

I mean, it's them, It's like the classic story.

Everyone goes a lot of people probably do and she did not.

You should not.

It's never, uh, you just should not.

Absolutely no, thank you, thank you so that and then.

Even if he did love her a lot, he didn't show it.

She needed someone to show him.

I would need somebody to show it.

I wouldn't I wouldn't be able to handle like, well you know, like, well I need to hear it.

Yeah, I alrea need to feel it, either actions or words, if you're not gonna do one or the other.

Or maybe I don't know if he wanted to or didn't know how, or just he had just decided and didn't want to fake it.

He just kept be like, I like you.

I think he was like the lawyer of music.

I just it's almost like he's never actually read the breakdown of what the show is.

Yeah, we've had one lunch.

He didn't want to keep up the charade of what.

The show is.

And even Jesse was struggling with trying to I don't know what's happening.

Even Jesse is mean, this is this.

Even Jesse was struggling with trying to get him to like, I'm gonna move my papers over here.

Okay, here we go.

So uh, when she came out in her revenge dress, spray tan, cleavage, shine down, the clean like change, she was swinging hard to be Golden Bad a bachelor.

I think she did it, Yes, I think so oh yeah, especially when Jesse was like, I just want to say you're a class act all the way, yes, which was almost an insult to mel It was like a subtle dig It should have been.

It should have been and her her daughters holding hands in the front row, you know, as if like just something terrible, you know.

I think the audience really turned on him.

They should have.

He was he gas let her and he kept be like, no, I'm sorry you tapped out.

You didn't go all the way.

And again I was in it and you weren't in it.

And football and now you started using football analogy.

Jesse Mann a man it.

Because yeah, he should have said.

I thought he was gonna say, I want to penetrate the hole in the end zone.

Yes, and I would have like, oh, I get what you mean.

But he didn't say that.

How was he chosen?

Like, I could not see this.

I'm sure there's so many interviews that he must do, yeah, to get chosen.

How in the world know how they found him?

I don't either.

I literally think they're like, here's him, tall, handsome, handsome, he had a successful football career and he's a lawyer.

He must he's in Orange County.

He must have known someone.

Yeah, if that works at ABC, he must be like Golf Bros.

Its former football So maybe Jesse.

I don't know, right, I mean, I mean also when the boys, his sons were talking about women as like sixty five women.

They're like, how are the girls?

I'm like, that's who you're raising.

Like they're calling sixty five year old women the girls.

Was like, again his sons were chiller than I thought they would be.

Agree, I love a little more than the other.

I love that they kept over using that phrase.

They're like, what kind of woman's looking for?

Just a mellow just a chill out girl, just like no naggy, just like you to go with whatever, just fully mellow.

Yeah no, actually never like never setting a boundary to someone that don't say anything the whole time.

I don't have any needs.

Just go with the metal.

Someone really chill, because like mom wasn't chill and you saw all that ending.

There's been been a flare up recently, hasn't there what happened this week with her?

Wasn't there something?

Yeah?

I don't know, I didn't see anything.

I felt like there was something.

She was sure she was probably talking.

He owes her like a million dollars.

She goes.

She goes, this is not what I want.

She goes, I am sick to my she was also the person that but she can't.

I'm always confused by women of any age that have the princess fantasy, that are like, I came in and this is my prince and we're gonna have the happily of her at We're like, what, yeah, that princess say I feel five dude, dude, it's such like what the princess fantasy?

But Peg didn't have that.

Pegs like, I don't need your help.

Yeah, I'm signing a prenuppy piece of shit.

I love everything she said, also about like how much you can tell about somebody by meeting their kids.

Oh, Pegg is just Peig is iconic.

Okay, so the fireworks alone, she goes, She's like, I am so disappointed.

I really believed he was the one.

And Mel's like, I'm shocked.

Our date was perfect the fire world and he's like, Jesse goes, hey man, sorry man, and then she goes over.

She's like, I'm looking for my husband.

I'm not looking and he's like, and he kept going, you want a leap of faith.

That's like, that's what the show.

This is the show.

He's like, I'm not on leap of faith.

Guys, like, you guys picked the wrong male aid.

Yeah, I've done that so many times.

Yeah.

They never got and she kept going, I don't.

He's like, I'm not necessarily saying I want to be getting married, but I want to believe that this is going somewhere.

He's like, you weren't following the rules.

We weren't in the end game.

You know, if you're going to play, you keep playing until the play is over.

Doesn't mean you got to win.

You need to be you know, this is tough.

It's tough.

She left, so she came out.

She's got a boobs out or spray tan.

She's like, I just didn't hear it from it, and he didn't seem to come find me.

Uh And what if he had just said, you know, I just had decided that I was going to pick PEG and I just couldn't keep up the schrade.

What if he had said that with the audience.

I don't buy that, really, do you?

No?

I don't know.

I think he wanted to get at it with both of them.

And maybe he was mad that she didn't or maybe to talk to.

Her about him being scared off by her wanting to connection.

Yeah.

Yeah, she was like, what's going on here, Let's have that talk and man hate them.

She's like, we need to have a talk.

And even if you're sixty five, you don't want.

Saying that just.

Leaps in her throat.

I was saying that.

At my mom's.

You know, there was a woman who shall be name hermin nameless, who kept peg.

She kept going Cindy.

She kept going to my brother and going like this, like really hot on his neck and in his ear clothes and we barely know her.

I got it.

I got to talk to you.

It was like at things, aren't what they see talking?

Like what are you talking?

I was like, you think everybody in this town soon or like our mom just like it was, so I gotta talk.

Is just like the town drunk, like what is happening?

I'll tell you after.

I'll tell you after.

You find out what her problem was.

We have some theories.

Oh you never talked to her?

Oh no, we did, but I don't want to say it on air because you know, it's a small town.

I know, like, well you got oh, I gotta talk to you.

Things on what that's like?

What you know you find out that it's like and then it turns out they didn't die of natural clauses.

They were murdered.

That's what we were like, what are you saying?

What is your Yeah?

Why we're like our mom just up saying this.

Okay, so then there's uh so then you know I would have been with him.

I was in it.

She was auditioning hard till the end.

I would have been with him till the end of time.

Clara, Clara, at the end of time for her is like what a year and a half?

Yeah, yeah, a year and a half year, a year and a half.

What did you think?

Did you believe it that that she really loved him?

I think she was trying to convince herself and I think she's going to get over this so quick and she.

Wants to be the bachelor.

Yeah, why do you say that?

I just think that she I do think she wants love and she really wants it.

She's trying to convince herself that it's with a certain person.

But she thought he was attractive, yeah, and.

That she like she was just forcing it.

And I hope that now with the distance and the clarity of how he responded.

She'll be like, what was I thinking there's someone that I him?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, but.

She was someone that had like the fantasy going in so maybe so maybe she had sometimes I know, like the guy I dated in high school, I completely constructed him in my brain.

I was like, he's shy.

I was like, he's boring.

He wasn't shy.

He was like you, this guy's just he's quiet because he's I was like, no, there's no there there.

I mean, he was terrible, so I can I can speak really trying Chris.

Okay.

So then there was uh and she goes, there's a gold ring in our logo we all expected.

I mean, I don't think I need to convince a man to love me, which is a great line, and the audience was like yeah, and he goes.

He goes, well, you didn't finish the game.

She goes, finish the game.

I was in the wrong stadium.

That was trilling.

That's what she got.

That's when she got.

That was so good iconic.

Do you think do you think that that was improvised or somebody gave her like that she knew and she goes, he wanted She goes you didn't read the book.

He wanted a comic book, something short and light and no commitment.

She had a lot of good lines.

She did, and then she had better lines than Peg.

I love Peg, but PEG's lines no.

No.

And then she was like a wait for everyone, Tom, I'm going.

To clip that to you, saying he doesn't have integrity.

Exactly exactly, that's it.

And then she goes, we put a lot of all of us put a lot of stuff into getting all the gowns.

I can date somebody back in getting all the gowns.

I caught break the fourth wall.

Also, I mean I look at like sometimes I'll do like shop your TV just out of curiosity.

I'm like, they have to get like gowns in a manner that even going to prom nod he buys these gowns.

You have to buy all these like tue lands like evening gowns.

No, No, the contestant has to buy them.

Yes, they provide the final two.

That's crazy.

They have to they have to.

Pay the final two episodes.

They provide if.

You make it to the fine like the final like if you're choosing between the two like the.

Red gown, only if you make it to the last episode.

You make it the last episode.

Then do they have to say over what you're wearing.

Yes, I think there's a silence that's.

So crazy that they make you pay for it.

Well all everything else.

You just have to get two suitcases, you have to.

Bring everything, you have to jam and you can't eat it normally.

Although he was backing jokes, but ate a lot of.

Beforehand because they don't say that you're not just like shoving your queuing or.

Continuity can eat it.

It's not like I don't think you're supposed.

To, Like, it's not about the fact that no one ever ate except mel In everything but Ari tied out.

I think it's like.

Foods that's been sitting.

It's under like to it's set food.

Don't want to eat it.

And then she goes, mel I have always had the best intention.

I really thought it was you.

When did you know that you were I like that she kept shading him, even though she knows that he was with Peg, like like, yeah, right, you guys are When did you know you weren't ready for something with any of us?

It's like, well they are still together.

You know.

She's pissed he's and uh he blamed her.

And then and then Jesse was like, would you move to there?

She's like, yeah, I would have moved there.

And she said the thing about her daughter living, and.

He's like, that wasn't what I was looking for.

He sucks.

Mel sucks, and then he goes, you know, dead old saying, first comes love, then comes marriage, then comes the babies.

Well you just want first love and marriage.

It's a leap of faith.

We just weren't aligned.

So he's like, she he goes, no, you just didn't exercise the option to go off camera.

He sucks.

He sucks's imagining imagine being married to him.

What's so?

What was his argument that, like they didn't hang out enough in another three hours would have changed his mind?

Yes, that was his argument.

And then he goes and she goes, there was a greater price to pay to get me into the fantasy suite, Like basically, son, you're not going to get to bone me after like one hot dog, you know, like and then and she goes, I learned enough.

I was in it for the like the long haul, and and she's like, you could have proven it before and and he goes, no, you just didn't take the extra time and then she goes, I think it's very straightforward.

I liked him.

I'm a very wise woman.

And then he goes, you're speaking, there's two different women.

You speak for yourself.

He was just awful.

It was awful.

Yeah, and then that was it.

That was the end of any final thoughts on Cindy.

She handled herself well.

I think she handled herself very well, and I think she made her case pretty well.

Yeah, you know, Banana, I think she she's got the bachelorette role.

Yeah, what's the worst you've ever been?

Gaslet?

In which direction?

I mean, how does it happen to it?

You know, you know how it happened to me?

Yeah, let's hear it.

How does it happen?

I don't want to be too you know, confessional, please, but I will say things to my wife about where she's like way off, like this is what's really going on.

She's like, you're trying to gaslight me.

It's like, no, no, this is the reality.

And she's always con saying that.

I'm trying to convince her that it's not real when it's like, no, this is the world we live in and you're not understanding it, but you're confusing me, you're accusing me of telling you.

Did she ever come around and go you were right?

Even she thought I'd never say.

Okay, okay, are you comfortable saying a gas lit that it doesn't be your worst any gaslight?

I mean like living with my dad was like one big gaslight, but from like a I was seeing, I mean, oh god, I feel like, yes, there happened, but I can't think of one specific Okay, one off the top of my head right now.

You don't want to say I'm a specific one.

Okay, this is like I'm not gonna give too many specifics.

But I was dating somebody and my a really close friend of mine had also dated him and years ago, and like we were way more serious than they ever were.

And then I told him that I had like jokingly set her up with someone else, and he got so upset at me for setting her up with someone and telling him about it, and I was like, Okay, you still have feelings for her, but he just made me feel like I did something so wrong and he's like, you were the worst person in the world.

Happened that we ended up breaking up over and I felt very gaslit from that.

Yes, I did nothing wrong.

I was dating a guy, and I remember there was like a like a like a sexy baby that was there, like and I remember I I had to go do some work, and like this person went off with like a woman and like a crop top arching her bath back that they were all a group of a friend they were all going to another party.

This person then had a couple was overserved and then was like I don't know if we kissed, And I was like what, and then and I was like what.

He was like, I just don't know.

And then I was like wait, and then I was like we did you?

And then he was like, you know, I have anxiety?

How dare you make me feel bad?

I'm like, but you're the one who's telling me you probably cheat.

And you also went off with the one person that I've ever felt had a funny feeling about watching and you're telling me that this person is also a sugar baby.

This person is a sugar baby, and you're going off with them, And then you tell me you're not sure what happened.

Why are you also do why don't you remember?

He's like, you know, I I was like, that should have been it for me?

How dare you question me?

About maybe getch I brought it up.

Yes, isn't that crazy?

That was a while ago.

Anyway, Okay, so that was the end.

Well, I feel like she's sent the she's going.

To be the new Yeah.

I think she's gonna she's I.

Hope so I think so too.

Unless they picked on like an older Mormon wife.

Oh you know, unless I think she's Oh my god, it does feel like the franchise.

I mean, do you watch every iteration of the franchise style of Bachelor.

Yeah, okay, but it does feel like it feels like they're panicking and trying to make it more like Love Island or like Love is Blind.

Not on this season.

But I'm like, they really didn't have much wiggle room to fuck up the lead like they.

Did just now, right right, I see what you mean, because they're they're trying to keep.

Because because the boat is sinking, and I think they panicked and they made the wrong decision because people have hot they're they're on Love Island, They're on Love is Blind.

Yeah.

Okay, let's take a quick break and when we right back and we'll talk about peg.

Yeah.

Oh my god, No, they did not, No, they did not.

Oh yes, they did, and we're back.

Okay, so it's go time Peg.

He goes to see Peg.

There's a knock on the door.

She's journaling, and he's like, I want you to know, don't freak out.

I don't want this to change it.

I still care about you, but so oddo in a kind of insulting ways, like Cindy left.

I don't want you to feel like Yesterday's good left over, the only one left.

He set it up, but he was going to break break up, break up, but he set up like this is I need to talk to you.

This is very serious, and she was getting ready to get dumped, and then she was like, oh, I'm the only one left.

She has a lot of poise and like a good sense of self and self esteem that she could roll with this.

And she seems kind.

She seems like she has patients and a sense of humor about his quirks that she can handle.

That he's not the best communicator that I think that she is.

I think she would like him to be more effusive, but she seems to have a light touch.

Excepting that this is not who they don't do the feels, as they said afterwards, but she kind of did like she was pretty articulate throughout, but he wasn't going to give it back.

But I do think her light touch with him has allowed him to come towards her.

And they did seem sincerely like they.

Liked each other, at least for today.

Yeah, and then they she met his sons and his lawyer friend.

That was weird.

Yeah, Diah school friend Dianeah.

They went to you Michigan Go Blue.

Yeah yeah, just like went to law school together.

I was like, how close are we?

Like, he has no female friends probably, and they're like, hey, Diane from college, Hey Diane.

You remember like who Diane?

Was a delight.

I mean I if Diane was given up he actually liked I thought.

Diane was like.

Yeah, it made yeah like him more.

That's his friend.

I was like, okay, sons did not make me like him more.

I like to be surprised when meeting someone's kids.

You came from me, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

And I was like, oh, you definitely can.

Yes, when he was like let's go buckle up, Like what are you talking to she was your dad.

She was such a cutie pie though, and she.

Can't she's talking to them.

My guy found like who wouldn't want her to come in You're going to be stepmom.

So easy, so confident, and she's like.

The first person that he's dated.

And she comes in and she's like, you know what, I'm a mom first, your dad did what I did.

I put my heart and now here I am.

I want to get to know you boys.

Let's play a game, right, And she's like, and he can't even do a cannon ball.

What a loss.

She's roasting in a like a not unkind way the way to do it.

That's she was like a nice army.

Yeah, you can tell she was fine.

She was so warm and you actually, I will say, looking back on the season, every time he did talk about her or have a date with her, he did seem to perk up.

Like and from the beginning he liked her, you could tell.

And maybe he and this is a guy that on paper could be threatened by such a powerful woman, but he seems really proud of the fact of.

What she said.

There was one I forget who was describing it.

Maybe it was Jesse.

There was like a moment where it was like, Okay, he's this pro football player, lawyer, and she's like equally as hard ass gritty.

He liked that.

Yeah, And it's just like they seem like matches in that way, and they're both like got grit.

They're kind of actually well suited.

Like once I saw them together, I actually thought they might actually get married in Baca.

Yeah, and he did seem of all the women that were not you know, everybody's over forty, which you know, he was disgusted by, he seems the horniest for her.

Yes, like he did.

He was like, she's looking I'm smart.

Like, I also like she has a kind of not to talk about women's bodies, but she does have like a normal like strongrong.

Yeah, she's strong and also like as a curly girl myself, Like, yeah, love love her hair.

Like I just think she is a really beautiful way.

She's beautiful inside.

And I love that She's like, look, I don't need a man to come in and take care of me.

I take care of myself for the last twenty years.

I was like, good for you, peg, I like, she's you could tell the daughter still doesn't like him.

Oh, yeah, she hasn't.

The daughter hasn't turned.

I don't blame her.

Yeah, she's like her high standards for Yeah, it's great.

Great mom.

She was also like, well, I can see that my mom's happy.

Yeah, you know, did you notice that.

I was like, well she seems happy, so I'll shut the fuck up.

But okay, yeah, she's happy fine, yeah, yeah, and she does look happy.

Yeah, coming out in her red sequin gown.

Yeah.

Good, she looked beautiful and they look she seemed like the kind that she's fun enough that he seemed like happy to be around her.

Well, she, I think lifts a lot of the weight of that relationship.

Like she's the show.

She just like talking, she's making jokes, and he's just watching her.

Ye, yes, you know, which I think is what he needs.

He needs someone who's the show and not him.

And yes, and I think that he's not.

Again, on paper, he could have been threatened by bomb Squad five like traditionally historically more like tough guy things.

That is, it's not there's no trad wife like she deferences his bomb as a fire works in the fire department like that.

He's He's very proud.

He couldn't wait to tell his sons.

That's one of the qualities I likedn't No.

Yeah, I mean, she's just fun and I think that's what he needed.

How much do we love seeing the outtakes with Diane not being able to read the cards and getting scolded in a very short manner.

But it's so funny.

She's like, no, why do they treat them like they're like literally of dementia?

Yeah, they were car Yeah, they were so condescending.

And it's like, okay, well she doesn't see the show.

She just I'm also like, who cares?

Yeah, it's fine.

It was a very bitchy and guess.

What, I zone out in that moment anyway, I'm.

Not exactly So she was a yeah, they were very cute.

I felt like the sons were sweet and they were even the like, so what are you hoping for a partner for your dad?

You know what I mean?

Like this, I love that question.

Yeah, right, it was.

And she felt almost like, look, I'm here with an open.

Heart and it's a hard thing to do.

I have a lot of like respect for going into like a tight knit family, and she was natural and easy and poised and yeah.

And it felt like I'm here to get to know you and I'm not and I like your dad and if I'm not for you, guys, I hope you find somebody.

But talking down to them very much their level and not trying to.

Be like, well, Dakota and I are going to come in and take over for your dad, you know what I mean, Like dude, nightmare nightmare.

Absolutely not.

But like so then and then they came out and I liked her saying he said I found the one go blue, my god, I told you everything, okay, And then and then she said he doesn't have integrity, he is integrity.

The audience did not get crazy.

But then she goes, I feel safe with him, and he said I am.

I fell in love with her.

Yeah, and they cheered for that.

I believed them.

I actually I was happy for both of that.

I was a little worried for a second because Peg didn't say it.

I know, I kind of kind of liked that.

I liked it too.

I kind of liked she deserves that.

She's like he got to keep fighting.

For she deserves she deserves the pause, and then I love Neil Lane looking I had to throw that in there.

He gets younger and younger he is.

Were they just tighten his cheeks?

You know?

The corpse of Neilane is just fucking keeping it Christ.

He went to Chris Jenner looking incredible, incredible.

Honestly, every year he looks better.

He has literally gotten younger.

It was one year that I was like, the ten years we've been doing this, booby, his whole face is different.

That he disappeared.

They're like, Neil's not going to be here for four months, and then he came back looking.

Niel Laye the dueling before and after Kneelane before and after anyways goes high.

I'm Niel Lane and he's iconic.

Oh yeah, and Jerry trainor who does our show?

Wow, he's still I mean after the before and after, I mean look at look at that.

Wow, he's looking good at all age like that.

So he was a very expensive bill to Beverly Hill somewhere.

He also so Jerry Train already for he he didn't know that Niliane was a man.

He thought Neilane was where you go to get engaged.

You take a knee on Neil Lane.

Sincerely, sincerely, I would believe that if I didn't know, it was ship feeling.

Okay, So then we see Joan and Chalk, and Chalk goes welcome to the Bachelor of franchise.

You know, we are.

I'm going to just call it right now, they're gonna get married.

I can see it.

It's like, well, you guys aren't married, what's happening with you?

Yeah?

Yeah, I mean that's the thing.

I feel like people just come up with stuff to say because Jesse puts him on the spot.

Well, we're going to Vegas this weekend.

I'm like, that's the plan.

Like what that's okay, So that's till Monday.

Yeah, we're just trying for sixteen figure it out question.

Yeah, that's true.

I love that he gave her like a promise ring, like this is a ring, but to say that we're gonna get engaged.

This is that we're not gonna get engaged, but we're gonna think about maybe getting engaged another day.

Yes, it's literally like they're they're like seventeen year old.

Like yeah, he goes, chastity ring, it represents.

A commitment to our love and she goes, I agree, and he goes, I got the perfect gal.

He doesn't want to get married.

She goes, I am dang short, I'm not ready for ever, and she goes, oh I loved her going I'm not for everybody.

He's not for everybody, but we are for each other.

That's very sweet, inaccurate, and you can say that about anybody.

I don't believe me.

That's what I was saying.

That's why I say, Yeah, he talks at three in the morning.

I know I'm not for everybody, But if I'm your cup of tea at three in the morning, you're never gonna have a better time if you're If you're an early bird, it might be a lot.

Yeah, but if you're not, you're down to clown.

Yeah, you're never gonna have more fun than with this fucking un tech.

It's true, true clown.

If you're down to clown in conclusion, you know, then Oh.

I also loved when she walked up to meet the family.

She had flowers.

He goes flowers to me.

She's like, hell no, sweet, Yeah, she was fine.

He goes and then the boys said, I think you're the perfect gal for my dad.

Gal.

Sorry, that was fine, Gal.

That don't be that age boy.

Don't ever men referring to girls as girls and chicks.

I can't.

Oh my god, I know I can't.

Specific person that think about.

This.

Broad is a perfect Yeah, you're right, no, agree to agree.

Chicks is crazy, especially like, don't say that in front of a group of people.

Dude, Like the I wrote a movie that is I'm making into a We had funding for it and it's it has sort of a feminist bent.

And I remember this very entitled composer came in.

It was like these chicks were I was like front of.

It was a female producer.

I wrote it.

The director.

She was like this chick.

I'm like, dude, all right.

So and then we saw Gary Tan once again.

It just hayan.

He's like, good luck, just love them, love each other.

Gary has really lost me.

Banana.

You say like you don't need any advice.

You're doing great all about yourself.

You're like, no ship.

You got married for like two weeks.

He tried to read that.

He tried to murder Teresa and the shed.

He made a drink about like this, I'm gonna murder you and bury the body and nobody's gonna find you.

And then he wouldn't.

She tried to make him sign a prenup and then he freaked out.

It feels like a wedding video where if people who don't know the couple that well, but they're they're asked to be interviewed.

You know, what do you think of the couple?

I just think they're doing great.

Yeah, and I just hope the future is great for them.

My friend made me do like like as like they made me at their wedding go like do a fun video.

I did not want to do this, but I did it.

And like the.

Age responses of like how much attention do you need, I'm like none, I don't.

I don't want to be the person on TV coming like the people were.

Was it shown at the the wed No, No.

We did it at the reception and they were going to be like a gift that they edit and gave to them, so they they I really didn't want to do it, was a request.

I did it, and like people who are weird if you've been on TV and you're like in a town like how much a child, I was like, I didn't request to do this.

I'm I really could.

I would.

I would rather be bar attending right now, like this is brutal.

Yeah, you had to do that.

One of my early jobs in LA I was working as a videographer and I had to do that for the baby Shower of Crystal from Crystal Kung Min cough and Rob Minkoff.

Wow, from the director of The Lion King and hurt?

How did that to be real housewife?

I had to do it for their baby, like people doing like best wishes for their baby.

And I mean, he was like, I didn't even know who they were.

So I was like just sitting in a room like interviewing people.

Yeah, and they would ask me questions and I'd be like, you're here at the baby shower?

Yeah, do you not know those people?

Because what am I supposed to tell you?

People?

So how do you know the bride?

It's like I lived with her until she cheated on it, you know, Okay, it was like a bomb I at fucking Minefield.

Yeah.

I was like, I don't fucking know.

Well that we're closing out our season.

Before we we're going to take a quick break.

We're going to come back.

We're going to guess who's going to be the Golden Bachelorette, and we're going to read our post of the week and our review of the week.

The Eagle is landed, and we are back Banana.

How do you feel about the upcoming bachelorette and do we know when it will be?

He said March twenty six, so we have like six MONTHSLF I guess four.

Minutes less than that, which is terrifying because it's December.

It's December, so it's three months off.

So next up is that?

The next thing up?

I guess they're skipping Bachelor, Yeah, Street Bachelor, but they haven't okay, okay, I mean should be interesting.

I'm curious how it's going to go for her because she's bananas.

Yeah, I think it's gonna be holious.

Also, there's something there.

I don't know if I expect her to a fine.

Love or I thought that she's never dated other people, like, that's gonna be fascinating.

She's like, never had experience.

Anything where she's like, I'm not used to it.

I was like, well, get ready girl.

Yeah, that's it's going to be like finding an alien and putting them on the show, which they did.

She's weird what I'm saying.

There's talk of her from years ago that I remember watching where she's like, shows you how she washes her hair, and it was the craziest thing I've ever seen in my life.

It doesn't take a full shit.

What does she do?

Crazy?

What does she do?

She does to take a shower?

She just like dips her head in a bathtub.

Does she have extensions?

Well, her hair was really long for a very long time.

As a person who's the new Mermaid of self like, but she like it's like she dips.

Her head in a bathroom and then she just like sways it and mean.

Like, I gotta tell you, I was just fucking destroyed and I was god damn shower after.

After I'm only allowed to take one bath a week.

Yes, well, put your head just It's like she was like mixing like a like cauldron with her head.

It was crazy.

It feels like a lot of waste of water to fill up a whole tub.

Just just get in the tub.

I agree, it was weird.

Oh my god, somebody got mad at me.

I didn't hate on Jared Freed.

I didn't.

I didn't say anything against Jared Freed.

Somebody else did.

Cares when he's doing fine, he's on the show perfectly, Okay, thought he wrote funny things.

I thought he was kind of mean to that.

Poor the influencer mom kept ripping into her.

She was also like the issue was also that the season was so bad that it wasn't about him.

I was like, why is this person coming and getting so much time?

Like, why don't they have more content from the season.

I think because their lead wasn't talking.

Yeah, I thought he did a good job.

I actually didn't know who he was.

I thought he was funny.

Jared, he's funny, Jared is He's funny, but also who cares?

Yeah, he might not be everyone's cup of tea that we.

Got three stars have loved your podcast for a few years.

They didn't like that Jared free day.

Jared is a comedian like Arden, and dissing on him is unnecessary and rude.

Okay, I mean I thought, I'm surprised you guys haven't had him on here.

Does he watch The Bachelor?

Yead?

I listened to him.

His half his brand is talking about the Bachelors.

I mean, I found him funny, and I think it was more a commentary that they literally don't have enough content so they had to bring him on.

He does these videos on Instagram where he breaks down every every single show and it's really funny.

And then he broke down the show he was on and I wrote him.

I was like, I was like, dude, this is the most meta thing.

Did he what did he say?

About breaking.

He was just talking.

He was very like self de appreciating about how stupid he looked and how like embarrassing and how awkward it was, and that it was great he was.

He was really funny.

I enjoy listening to his his bachelor breakdowns when I do, hear them every once in a while.

Here Jared, it's gonna be just fine.

He is a great career and you know what, he is funny.

It's fun.

He doesn't have to be everyone's cup of tea pep.

I had no actually, I thought he was funny.

It was more like, why why you mean to that one poor woman?

I don't even remember that.

He just kept ripping into the influencer mom and I was like, Okay, look, I know she's a goofball, but just liver.

I thought he was funny.

I thought it was literally, why, why where?

Where's the show?

Just rip into mel You don't need to rip into the women.

I thought he wrote good jokes with the gals.

Okay, funny, Okay, So here we go.

Who's going to win the trifecta of something of Avenue A, uh Anne, of Avenue and of Avenue A.

There's gonna be all all three books of You're gonna win for our final post of the week.

Here we go, We're gonna say a few We're gonna narrow it down.

What so oh no, yes, this is it for This is the review of the week.

One hundred stars.

Thank you, I mean already, thank you.

Garrett.

Episodes are platinum level.

Uh.

Jerry Traynor also good, the two of them together, pure perfection.

PS you all.

Eating the hot chocolates was the best commercial.

Thinktive ass.

I'm ordering every Christmas gifts for family cross the country.

I gotta tell you, Oh, I got to put in my order.

I want to get.

I can't wait for your dessert.

I mean I think I'm gonna get.

I want at least three dozen of just the the buck Eyes there, just the plain buck Eyes, dark chocolate, milk chocolate.

You're about to have a Buckeye tower in there.

I want a Buckeye tower.

I gonna come early and set it up.

The buck Eye.

Yeah yeah, I need a buck Eye.

Let's see how many make it to the tower exactly.

I mean, dude, just like, where's all the chocolate?

I'm like, my whole face is okay.

It's so fund and the other one Blessings to the whatever I can't read, all THEO from Marzipan, nineteen five stars, Dear Arden, Sheen Marine, The Treviary and all fifty sting Rays and Fleff Shoots.

How dare anyone come for my gorgeous favorite baby Champion podcast, The Treviary and all off roading is the absolute favorite part of my driving, heavy work week, especially a tiring job working in hospice healthcare.

Every time I see that there's a new podcast, I get a stupid little smile on my face, and Arden and guests never ever disappoint even in person.

At the bro Diego Live show, those guests get down.

Please never let anyone dim your sparkle and keep bringing back your special spark of fun and silly laughter to all of us boring people out here.

Much left from San Diego.

That's a good one.

That same really good one.

Here's another one.

Five stars, Bring Joy and Champion art Ship.

Kenny G.

This is my favorite punchast.

It's probably because it's my favorite type of podcast where the kind of feels like you're hanging out with your friends and talking about the as you love or sometimes you think like you hate.

Like mel I've watched the Bachelor franchise for years of my wife.

I'm just about ready to throw in the towel when I discovered on this podcast I heard art on love Doug Loves Movies.

I know some people complain the art in our rotating panel of guests get off track, but that's what I'm here for.

It makes it more personal and ultimately more fun.

There's been tragedy and triumphs.

I laugh, I cry.

I feel like a better person for listening to the podcast has helped me through some tough times in my life because the energy is so pure and good.

It's truly amazing.

I love you all, Thanks for all this deillar work you do.

Those are three great reviews, and there's more that we will be reading these we oh, here's I mean, there's so many, there's so many, there's so many good ones.

I mean, I'm going to read them on the next season because they were great reviews.

I feel like we know who's gonna win.

Hospice gotta you gotta oh yeah, it's gotta be the hot.

That's an amazing thing to do.

I'm an incredible thing to do.

Okay, guess what Marzipan nineteen.

Of that name.

Five stars.

I tolerated.

I'm here for the same part of me that likes the birthday cake.

I'm the same, same same.

Okay, so you here's one yourself.

Three.

Thank you for your beautiful review.

Thank you to everybody reviewed.

Do you just get yourself the tr Okay, here's our final thing.

You're gonna get a sleep crown sleep pillow.

I travel with mine.

You do?

Do you well my travel one?

Yes?

I put in my back.

Do you have sleep issues?

No?

I'm pretty good sleeper.

I'm lucky, lucky, you lucky.

I'm a light sleeper.

Okay, pretty good.

Okay, seth, you get sleeper.

I am a very good sleeper.

I could sleep anywhere.

I might fall asleep right here, I respect.

Okay, here we go.

We're gonna now, we're gonna do like five or six or now down to two.

We're gonna win, and somebody's gonna win.

That'll be that, okay, Air Recca.

Has anyone ever predicted the lead would be the villain of the season, that's okay, Steven Smith, Neil Lane has got to be on the substance.

Yes, that's good.

That's good.

Gretchen Schrader mel gave peg a promise ring like he's a seventeen year old of evangelical kid who wants to get laid.

Okay, oh so this one you might not get, but everybody else will get.

Rachel Rachel Delon, Jean, what's the update with Joe?

Sorry, Joan, what's the update with you?

And chalk?

Well?

I've seen at least three hawks a day?

Remember she kept saying hawks reminder of John.

Okay, Yeah, here's another one from Rachel delonn Cindy.

I just don't know what's holding him back.

Mel about twenty years Okay, he likes him young, okay, and then final one young, Yeah for sure.

Air RecA is Joan patient zero for vocal fry.

Okay, I'm gonna narrow it down.

Is taking this substance Okay, okay.

Okay, we're gonna do all right, we're gonna do.

I also like evangelical.

Yeahs those three okay, akright, we're now down to two, so we'll do evangelical and villain or substance substance substance okay.

Stephen Smith, Neil Lane has got to be on the substance or Gretchen Schrader.

Mel gave peg a promise ring like he's a seventeen year old evangelical kid who wants to get laid.

Substance.

Yeah, substance same.

Okay, so I think it's actually based in truth.

Okay, you want your email as your mailing address, A roadsepodcast at gmail dot com.

Neil Lane has got to be on the substance if you want your own uh sleep crown.

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Okay, thank you.

First of all, thank you to our listeners.

Thank you to everybody, Thank you all.

Thank you.

Rookie, Rookie.

What would you like to promote?

Okay, yeah, the Ick movie.

Everyone should follow at submit your ick on Instagram.

Seth is also eventually going to be in an episode.

Jordan Carlos did.

Carlos is in such a good one.

Everyone who's in is amazing.

But we're about to release this movie probably around December eighth, ninth time, on my birthday in stars In and is so amazing, Rob it is Soffi and Michael Longfella, we've all been on the podcast, an amazing cast, and it's going to be really great.

It's really too last night at four am.

And honestly, and Clara directed it and she helped write it and and you guys, it was so impressive.

You pulled it together so fast.

You were wonderful on set.

Thank you.

You are going places.

You are a born leader, and you're a wonderful director.

And I can't wait to see what you make.

Oh, thank you, Arden, It's true, Thank you, Thank you.

Okay, Tuesday night, Tuesday Night, Sweet Sweet Gravest Musical, which is I can't say that.

I can't say that it's the address.

It's four oh seven West fifteen.

But if you put in and he's not saying this.

I have you put it in that still tell you where to get.

That's where you'll get underneath.

That's not what.

It is anymore.

No, the stand bought it the stand body.

So it's the Stand Chelsea.

Now, okay, okay and Banana we're behind.

Yeah, we're very behind on our Patreon, but we will get back on it.

And we'll pause it.

We'll pause it so we're not going to charge you.

We got back on it, but we'll pause it so you're not going to get charged.

And then we were doing the Mormon wives thing.

We'll get back down with summer houses back or like we're or like Southern charm.

Yeah something something good, something a Bravo thing.

Yeah, okay, great until next time, Banana.

So fun to see you.

How are you.

I'm good, I'm glad I got to do the final thoughts.

You know, people really miss you in person.

Very vulnerable.

Are you feeling vulnerable right now?

You're very vulnerable.

I'm feeling very vulnerable right now too.

I'm not I miss that gathline.

I would have been crying.

Dude, don't even kid yourself.

Somebody try and go on the rowing machine while listening to that.

It's ruining me.

Hey listen, if we're not in season my new show, as the first time, I'm going to be the leading lady.

Honey, I'm playing Bert Chryscher.

It's so excited.

I've never playing I'm playing Kser.

Is your shirt off?

The whole time?

My shirts off.

I have my bellies out, shirts off, and it's going to be called free Bert.

Put in your eye calor your calendar, whatever your Google, whatever you do, your hard copy January twenty second, it comes out the entire show.

It's very important that you and all of your relatives set your.

You have to think.

You need to help people.

I think people are going to watch this.

But you have to watch it.

You have to binge it.

You have to binge it all the first weekend, like to help us get the pick up.

It's important that they care about the binch.

Have to watch all of them the first yes weekends.

Yes, so you may even be able to go back in time, but just set your just watch it, like, just set it to go through the first night.

Even if you go back and watch it again, you're it clacks.

It doesn't count like it has to be binged.

So just like put it.

They have to watch one episode.

It has to be they have to be finished.

The episode has to be complete.

It doesn't count unless it's a finished episode.

Yes, so if you start it and don't finish it, you.

Have to if you don't have the retention and they know who and it's and they really track who who binges things?

So just press play, have your non a press play.

Go to everybody's computer.

Over there there you know what pray midnight?

Yes, Yes, praise Daddy, Ted, thank you, daddy, thank you, daddy.

Check selling sunset in twenty minutes.

You fucking sich fuck.

You're sick fuck.

And I'll be doing all sorts of press for in January.

So yeah, you'll be back.

I'll be back until next time.

My name is Art Borne.

Think you so much?

Bye?

Oh yeah, you're gonna get all up in your tonight.

It feels so good.

I just got one lit up question.

Bringer where you're except this roll?

Will you except this rolls?

Listen to your word?

Who your except this rolls?

Into your world?

Will you accept this?

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