Unknown: If I were Emily, I wouldn't have mentioned it, or I would have been mad at her and made it about something else.

But Emily clearly wanted to use it as a storyline, because she's the one putting it all out there.

What our source told us is that from this situation goes Katie falling out with all of the women, including Jen, who we know she was very close with Katie being asked by production not to go on the Amsterdam trip.

It was not her choice, but we hear she will be at the reunion in October, unless I guess she chickens out.

You foreign Welcome to cocktails and gossip, the podcast where we drink cocktails, but you better believe we're going to spill the tape.

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I'm Bee and I'm Amanda.

Let's get into this week's tea.

What's up?

Cocktail ers.

Hello, Amanda.

Hi.

Bea.

Hi.

Cocktails So, bee, how was the rest of your trip?

It was great.

We are back home.

I am trying to get my life organized.

What else is new?

But it's good.

It is hot.

Yeah, it's hot here too, but, yeah, it's it's a break from, like, the demands of school work for the kids and like, they, they still do have some, like, sports training, but it's not as pressure.

It's like, if you could make it, you go, if you can't, you don't you know, that's good, yes, how about you?

It's good.

Yeah, my, my kids have not told me they're bored yet.

So yeah, they win, because they know too.

If I say I'm like, Well, you have summer homework.

Yeah, it's here it is.

Both of you have a lot of books that you need to read this summer.

So, no, it's been, it's been a really great summer.

My only thinking of you want to know what I did was very typical, and nobody is going to be surprised by this.

So my son's school sent, like, a very long list, and it's not required, but they obviously want you to read a couple of them.

Yeah.

So I'm like, Okay, here's the list.

Read it over.

So he picked the help, which I thought was really sweet, because, you know, he's never seen the movie.

I actually read the help and loved it.

I'm like, I love that.

Yeah.

And then he picked the blind side, which is, like, you know, typical boy, it's about football.

And, yeah, right.

Cool.

Order.

It comes to the house, the help book, The Blind Side, DVD.

And of course, he's like, perfect.

I don't even have to read it.

I'm like, this is being returned and reordered, dear.

So I had to go drop it off at, you know, the ups, and I reordered the actual book.

But we were all laughing.

My husband's like, of course, you didn't realize you were ordering, like, story of my life.

That's so funny.

I don't even know if we have a DVD player anymore.

We I do not.

So it was a useless DVD.

Yeah.

Oh, that's too funny.

Yeah.

Before we get into this week's tea, which, by the way, you guys, we do have, we have a really good piece of tea that we got today, but we have been getting so much in coming into the send us tea inbox and then, obviously, through DMS.

So I just wanted to remind you guys that now is a great time to join cocktail party.

You can join for the first month for only $5 using B's code my treat, m, y, t, R, E, A, T.

And the other thing that some people don't know is you can listen to all of the past bonus episodes, you can read all of the past tea all of it, honestly, if you want to join and just join for a month, catch up on all the stuff and then leave like that's totally cool.

But the other cool thing about what we do with cocktail party is our community.

So we've been getting quite a few new people on Discord, which is such a fun place to discuss, just during a show, or if an article pops up, people put it in the links.

I want to try to do, you know what?

So it's Thursday, and OC comes out tonight.

I may try to and I'll put a post.

I'm going to wait till later in the day, because you know how days go, right?

I sometimes we like to live chat in the discord where, like, we're all watching the show, and then on commercials we comment.

So that's always fun.

And we do a monthly oom, which I swear it's worth in my opinion, if I were a cocktail or that would be worth it, because the stuff that people come on and they're like, Hey, I'm Jesse Solomon's ex girlfriend, like, just as an example, and we're like, wait what?

And they're like, Okay, B, you can never post this.

We do not record the Zooms because really crazy stuff has been said that I cannot repeat, yeah, anywhere but those cocktails.

And I would just want to say another thing, we have the most incredible retention rate.

Very rarely do people join, quit and not come back.

I.

We have had people, and this is, like, so true.

I know a lot of my friends, like Amanda and I watch everything.

We're Bravo fanatics, fine.

But we have some people who are, like, only into certain shows, and then we'll cancel cocktail but they always come back.

Yeah, we could run the numbers on that.

Yeah, we absolutely could.

And you know what's so funny, too.

I was just thinking about it because, like, because of, specifically because of our ooms.

I know some things about, for example, some Bravo stars who are generous lovers, yes, like things like that.

You can only find out on the Zoom and we would never repeat.

I also want to say something else, because we took a lot of flack when Nini was not on the cast for traders, because we had said that she was going to be on, and we said that in cocktail party, and then we made it public, and then the source who told me was like, b I don't know what happened, but she's not on.

And I was like, Are you kidding me?

So imagine my relief when I heard her on Cynthia Bailey and Crystal Minkoff podcast saying I was supposed to be on traders four, but at the last minute, I had to pull out because her son and we send her son all the prayers and well wishes had health complications and was in the hospital.

So as any mom would, she decided it was not a good time for her to leave.

Yeah, yeah.

I was like, Okay, I'm not crazy, because we had heard that from different sources, and our Trader source is a lock, so I'm like, what is happening?

Yeah?

Yeah, absolutely.

The other thing too, we both want to send our love and support to all the people in Texas who have been affected by the floods.

It's an absolutely, especially as a mom like it's an unthinkable tragedy, and I have been praying for them every day and praying for miracles, and we're thinking of you guys, what, uh, I can't I even wrap my head around it all of our love and prayers.

I It's unthinkable.

It's unthinkable.

As a mom whose kids go to camp, it's very, very, very, as any human now you don't have to be, yeah, to be completely disturbed by Absolutely So moving on to our usual BS.

So I know you started watching McBee Dynasty, which actually premiered last year on peacocks.

So it's like, kind of like a Yellowstone, but reality Yellowstone season two is now on Bravo, and this family is embroiled with some legal drama.

So apparently that dad, Steven, Sr, Steve senior, is going to jail.

So you told me I should watch the show.

So I happened to catch the first episode of the second season, and I was like, Okay, this is insanity.

Let me go back and start the first season.

So I'm not done yet, because I binged my way through the Gilded Age, which I know I keep saying it, but it's so freaking good.

You guys have to watch it.

And now I'm trying to pace myself, because when I like a show, then you're sad when there's no more.

So, like you said, it's like Yellowstone meets Bravo.

But there's also something about it that's very old school reality show.

Like, remember the Hogan?

Like Hogan and his family had it.

It's just something about it is not produced.

These people are unprepared for television, which makes it a really fun watch the oldest son, Steven, who is beautiful.

Steven Jr, very handsome.

He was on Joe millionaire for richer or poorer.

I didn't even know that was still out in 2022 it's where he met his met his current girlfriend on the show.

Who knows their boyfriend, girlfriend off on.

Lots of drama.

Yeah, so lots of drama.

He's got three brothers.

They all have girlfriends, all the drama between all the girlfriends, to say nothing of the fact that his father, his father, left his mother for a woman who ended up running his business.

She was like the COO very sharp, bright woman.

She brought around.

She's from Russia.

She brought around her friend who looks like her, but 20 years younger.

Well, wouldn't you know that their dad left Galina for the younger model, Masha, all behind her back.

But the other weird thing about it is, even in first season, although she runs the business and lives in his house, he's very open about the fact that they're not exclusive, even though she seems to think they are.

And he's got another girlfriend first season named Brooke, so the whole thing is an absolute and then second season, Galina is telling one of the son's girlfriends, and I would never do that to a woman, but it's like you did it to their mom, who he had four kids with So, yeah, oh, so that that was the one part.

I wasn't sure, because I am the same I it was funny because I also just happened to catch some of the first episode.

I was like, oh, I should go back to season one and start at the beginning, because it was wild.

But I didn't realize that Steve Sr.

Left his wife of 28 years.

Well, Lena, so I don't know, I don't they have all says, Yeah, girlfriend.

Kala says you, you would never do that, but you did it with Steve.

But he's also very open.

I think he was like a serial cheater.

So maybe galena was the last straw for the wife.

Maybe because she worked for the company, I don't know, but it's because of what Carla said.

But yeah, well, and so Steve senior grew up poor, got married at 20, started buying more and more land, and then it turned into this multi million dollar farm and ranching operation.

We know he's he is now divorced after a 28 year marriage, and he said he made, quote, unquote, made a lot of mistakes, and told himself he would never lie to a woman again.

And he definitely, like feels himself, because he's like, Well, I've told Galina, don't if you don't want to know the answer, don't ask.

Meaning, you know, don't ask me about these other women the family also, I guess, started a bunch of car washes to kind of hedge their bets, because farming is becoming so tough.

So yeah, so he's Oh, he also says, I do not want to be in a relationship.

But like you said, Galina, the CFO of their whole company, stays over multiple times a week, and her daughter and, like Steve, have a relationship, which I found strange, given that Steve is seeing all these other women.

And like you said, there's four boys.

So Steven Jr, the CEO, who you just mentioned, Cole, who is expecting a baby with his girlfriend, Casey on season two, Jesse, who will be getting married to his 11 year girlfriend, ally on season two, and then now Braden.

I don't think he seems to have a girlfriend season two, but it also season two.

I don't think Dad filmed because of his legal issues, yeah, but I know that we're gonna end up meeting their mom, who wasn't on Season One.

Interesting, so I imagine the funny thing is, she looks like Galena, like they all look, oh my gosh, all the women, although the one girl from Brooke didn't because she had dark hair, but yeah, the other three could be interchangeable, just different ages.

So Steve senior, we led with that, that he's got legal drama.

So I read up on it.

He pled guilty to multi million dollar crop insurance fraud in November of 2024 he admitted that he falsified documents to get over $3 million in insurance benefits in 2018 that is a Class B felony in Missouri.

And as part of Steve's plea agreement, he agreed that the court will not allow parole, so it's looking like he's facing up to 30 years, and the sentencing is in September.

Yikes, yeah, yeah, that's scary.

And in second season, we see that Steve Jr is very stressed about finances, and they're very leveraged, and they have huge tax bills, probably because they didn't pay tax for a long time.

Pay your taxes, especially when you go on television.

I mean, if I have learned anything, it is that seriously.

So, yeah, hoping you guys will pick it up and start watching with us, because we want to talk about it.

Yeah, and it's just something a little bit different.

I different, I know, yeah, beggie and I were talking about it before we got on the on the pod, and it, it does, it does feel kind of like old school reality TV, where it's not overly produced.

And, you know, these people, they're not like Sheena, just who, for a scene, is bringing a tray of drinks to it.

I mean, they are actually working on this farm, sometimes pulling all nighters.

It's a hard, hard business, so I think it's just, it is, it's, it's kind of a breath of fresh air for Bravo, yes.

All right, so Summer House last week, we were speculating on who the newbies could be, and, of course, this weekend, so Fourth of July weekend, during filming, our followers did not disappoint us.

So shout out to the cocktails who are lucky enough to be in the Hamptons and getting us all the scoop.

So let's walk through who the newbies are and how that tea came in as we exclusively shared it on our site and on Instagram.

So it started with a DM that we got on the morning of July 4.

So that would have been the night before that they were all hanging, and the DM said, Hey, b i met all the guys, all very nice and open to chatting.

One of them was a newbie who introduced himself as KJ, she said, trying to get instagram handles to confirm, like, exactly who he is.

The DMS kept flooding in because I don't know which one of them posted it, but, oh, Sheen, is that machine?

Yeah.

Oh, Sheen, who you guys will remember as the milkman from Southern.

Hospitality.

He was on one season he was very unliked.

All right.

They call him that.

He calls himself the milkman, you guys, because on his only fans, he poses nude or in his skivvies and pours milk all over himself.

Gallen guy, so very weird.

He was pictured in the Instagram stories with West and Jesse and this new guy, KJ and a couple of the new girls.

Now we had to figure out who the new girls were, but first I had to figure out, okay, is oshin gonna be making a cameo on summer house?

Because, remember, Amanda told us, it's somebody we know.

I have good news if you don't like oshin.

Maddie and Joe Bradley were also at the club, and they told a cocktail.

Or oh no, we're not here filming.

We're just here supporting oshin Because he's working at whatever club they were at, catchy Veatch or something.

But we think that the summer house cast may swing by to say, what's up?

But there was no it wasn't like a planned crossover by production.

As far as we know, we won't see them on summer house.

And if we do, it would be like, in the background, like, oh, you know what I mean?

Like, yeah, they're not going to be staying at the house like, Tom Schwartz, who comes for the weekend, right?

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You Oh, thank God, because when seeing all those pictures, I was like, Please, no milk man, that would not it just wouldn't feel right for our summer house.

But in those pictures, those newbies were pictured, and because we know they're filming, we now feel okay about sharing more information about who they are.

So we got this email last weekend that said, summer house newbies.

The two boy newbies are Wes Wilson's friend KJ Dillard and Kyle cook.

And Amanda betul is friend Ben Waddell.

He was on the Australian bachelor.

The two new girls are Levi sea, Bree and Bailey Taylor, not sure who, when they will be coming on the show, or who, like, who they're friends with, but the two girl newbies are already close friends.

So we suspected, and we said last week, although we went down the rabbit hole, oh, who could this be?

Because Amanda Petula said that we're gonna know this person.

So we're like, ooh, Brian Benny, Tom Schwartz, ooh.

Imagine it's still an Efron.

You and I both said we feel that it was a very good PR move on her part to get us all talking make it seem like it's somebody big.

I gotta tell you, I don't watch bachelor.

I especially don't watch bachelor Australian version.

I never heard of Ben, and I would guess the vast majority of our followers.

Have you heard of this guy?

Something about him looked familiar when I saw he is a he's a model.

He's a cutie.

He looks a little bit like he's 36 so he's not such a baby.

He looks a little bit like Lindsay's baby daddy, oh, crossed with, like a young Shep, like he's cute, yeah?

Curly hair, very good looking.

Yeah, but yeah, I don't I didn't know him.

I wasn't like, oh yeah, I totally know that guy.

I just was like, he looks familiar.

So I agree.

He also looks to be exactly Sierra's type.

He's got that look that she goes just cast purposely to just try to get and I forget.

If I checked how old KJ was, but KJ is like a recording artist.

He's a tall, incredibly fit guy.

I said, I don't care if he's younger, it actually makes it better.

I'd like to see Lindsay get her groove back with him, because I feel like that would be a fun hookup.

Yeah, I think that CI is going to be very unlikely to hook up with anyone in the house, but you never know.

Yeah, never know the two girls, Levi and I say you're right, Levi, Levi and Bailey.

A lot of you guys joked it sounded very much like Lexi and Bailey from last season.

The difference is they're actually friends.

Like looking at their Instagram, they've been hanging out for a long time.

We need people who are friends, and I don't think they necessarily need to be friends with the whole cast.

That's almost better if they're not, because they have their ally and ride or die.

Yeah, let's see the the one girl, Lexi has like an a social media, a Levi.

You hear me, it is.

She has something called it girl, and she interviews people on the street, and she's interviewed a lot of celebrities like Stella McCartney and other big names.

So she's kind of in the biz.

I like that.

That means that she's got something to promote too, which is good, yeah.

KJ is a recording artist, but so there is a little something, another piece of tea we have for you guys that's kind of wild.

We did post this in cocktail party from an anonymous I met Wes recently, and he said he was almost positive that production was going to cast his ex girlfriend.

He said they're on good terms.

I have no idea if either the new girls are his ex girlfriend, but based on what he said, It's possible.

So he posted this in cocktail, and I haven't heard anything else about it.

Sometimes, what I always hope for, what Amanda and I hope for, is that we post that and somebody DMS, and they're like, Wait, Levi's his ex girlfriend, or Bailey's his ex girlfriend.

But that didn't happen.

So we don't know if they actually ended up casting.

I think that would be juicy.

He has that x, right?

That was a Dallas Cowboy cheerleader or something, right?

Yes, but I think that was from like, high school or college, like, I don't think I think it was a more recent x, but I just think it would be very interesting, because I think just knowing Sierra's personality, I think it would automatically put her a little bit at odds with the two newbies.

So I think, listen, we need some drama.

We do need some drama.

We saw.

Oh, so I was gonna see what you think about I have a theory.

Gabby also shared a story of, like, looked like a salad, it was a salad.

And wrote, like, summer nutrition with Lindsay or something, and tagged Lindsay Hubbard, so I think we'll see Gabby.

People want to know if Lindsay is in the house.

So last year, we know she didn't always stay the full weekend.

I'm sure she's not staying the full weekend this year, or she's in her own house down the road with Gemma.

Do you think Gabby is staying there, or she's staying in the regular house.

Amanda, you and I said when we were before we knew whether Lindsey would be back, but we were both convinced that she would be.

We were like, put her in her own house, throw Gabby in the house, let the girls walk over and hang with her in the mornings and do breakfast.

I don't know that that's true, but I think it would absolutely make sense.

But even if we don't see it filmed that way, I think there's a possibility that Lindsay has a rental out there, and maybe she'll even look like she's staying over, or maybe she will sometimes stay over if the baby daddy goes out, you know what I'm saying?

Like, yeah, that's it makes sense for her to have a home base in the Hampton, so she doesn't have to run back to the city every Sunday, right?

And I'm sure the guys spend time in the Hampton so I'm sure he can come out and stay in the you know what I mean, like all that kind of stuff.

So, yeah, that's how I'm I'm picturing her having her own home base in the Hamptons.

Whether or not we see her stay in the house to be determined.

Yeah, I feel like we're already missing Paige.

Okay, no, no, I am, have definitely been following her Instagram posts because her Capri trip that I think she does every year with her family, looks incredible.

She actually copied one of the White Lotus looks from Chloe.

So if you guys remember the girlfriend who is like French Canadian who is Greg's young girlfriend, super hot.

It was this, like, pink one piece bathing suit with this beautiful sheer pink skirt worn, like, super low so like, you can see the tops of her thighs over the skirt, kind of worn, but it she wore it just like Chloe did.

And it looks amazing.

And the hot too.

She had the hot, oh, it was so good.

I loved following along on her vacation as well.

I love Italy.

She shows the food, the fashions, the views, which she didn't show was her rumored boyfriend, Joe demilio, who dumois says she received a picture of them holding hands in Capri but she was asked not to show it.

You.

I mean, we have no reason to not believe that we actually got something interesting yesterday, a follower, I don't know what I just did with the site.

That's weird.

A follower DMed me, and they were like, B A friend of mine, this.

I have it browsing layouts, which I have no idea why.

I'm just trying to look at a post, but I'm gonna get it.

Guys, don't worry, there it is.

So I didn't wanna, okay, so I wrote, I personally don't think this sounds like her type.

And also, she was spotted with her boyfriend in Italy, but a friend of a friend says Paige has been texting with this guy.

This guy's from a big family.

We actually mentioned one of his brothers as a summer house possibility, but we don't.

I don't think that worked out.

One of the brothers was on a reality show.

Farmer Wants a Wife.

One of his sisters dated the country star Riley Green, so she's texting with him.

And I said to the person, are we sure it's romantic?

And the cocktail was like, I don't know the guy owns a clothing brand with his brothers, so I said to them, I wouldn't be surprised if it were something professional.

But again, we don't know that she's exclusive with Joe.

Like, if they are dating, it may just be dating.

It's only been a few months.

So is it possible that she's texting with somebody?

All things are possible.

The person is going to speak with their friend and give us the tea.

So stay tuned.

That is in cocktail party.

Yeah, but we miss you, Paige.

I know we'll see her again on our screens.

I have to say she was saying on giggling squad what their family does.

And it sounds like the perfect vacation.

They go to the pool or they go to the beach club and they go to dinner, and then they do it all over again the next day.

I'm like, That sounds lovely.

That's what I do when I do an island like, it's just the unique sometimes you just need up.

Yeah, some people are very adventurous as you are, but even adventurous people need a couple of days to just, Oh, for sure.

I like a mix.

And I did a trip to Italy actually a few years ago that was perfect, because we started in Capri had those few days to just do that, essentially, like, sit by the pool, eat amazing food.

I mean, the food's amazing everywhere, yes.

And then we went and did all the like, you know, Rome.

And we did Tuscany and like so it was so nice to have both.

Have both.

Yeah, I agree.

Okay, so today is Thursday.

Tonight is the Real Housewives of Orange County premiere.

But hopefully you guys have seen the trailer too, and we do, of course, have some tea on what happens with Katie Janella.

So we learned from the clip that it has something to do with Katie contacting a podcast or Bravo bloggers.

I think a podcast more than and then like, think she was in contact with like Bravo account, not us, not us.

I don't have any interest in anything like that, by the way.

I just give you the tea and keep it moving, like bloggers.

And then somehow got in touch with the podcast because so she essentially encouraged the previous nanny of Emily.

So you'll remember Emily's sons, according to Katie's daughter, said that Heather duro was mean, and so then Katie, I guess, encouraged this nanny who corroborated that story to go on the podcast.

And so we hear, was it Shannon?

Is it Shannon telling her, like, oh, you know, like, probably not the best move.

And so listen, the odd part to me, if I'm Emily, is that none of us heard this podcast.

This was not a thing, obviously, very few people listened.

Okay, I'm not sure.

I'm not being snarky.

What I'm saying is Emily didn't need to bring this to the camera in such detail, I knew nothing about it.

None of my followers sent it to me.

So like Amanda, if it's under our radar and like we literally seek these things out to share, right?

That's literally we're, we're always, we are always online, right?

Even more than me and like anything that comes up, just because we don't talk about it doesn't mean we don't know about it, but in this case, we did not know about this.

So it's not like it was Heather McDonald or two teas in a pod, like whatever.

If I were Emily, I wouldn't have mentioned it, or I would have been mad at her and made it about something else, but Emily clearly wanted to use it as a storyline, because she's the one putting it all out there.

What our source told us is that from this situation goes, Katie falling out with all of the women, including Jen, who we know, she was very close with Katie being asked by production not to go on the Amsterdam trip.

It was not her choice, but.

We hear she will be at the reunion in October, unless, I guess, she chickens out she needs to make that check, right?

And we all know, guys that you don't get your final, your final payment, unless you go through union.

Also from the preview.

I know people are kind of over the lie detector thing, but I actually really love it.

And I really love it when the housewives get chances to ask each other shady questions, like, I don't know whose voice it was, but somebody asks Heather Dubrow on the lie detector if she would rather be on the Housewives of Beverly Hills.

Hysterical.

So funny, I guess with Katie, I'm kind of disappointed, but not surprised.

You guys might remember, we found a lot of interesting things about her divorce and custody before her, her first season started.

I had a really open mind about her, despite having some doubts based on the the tea that we we found I liked her at first, but I know if, even if, it is Emily, I just not cool with bringing up something that two small children said on a reality TV show, whether or not it's true, like having them be a part of a storyline in that way, I don't like it.

I also think it's very stupid, because Emily is not a new housewife.

Viewers of OC, either like Emily, don't like Emily, feel indifferent about Emily, but having a nanny who may or may not be disgruntled, go on a podcast, who may or may not be looking for 15 minutes of fame and say that Emily was a mean employer doesn't change my opinion on Emily, whether I like her or not.

One way, it doesn't it change my opinion in any way?

Because who the hell is this nanny?

Why should I consider them credible?

Like, yeah, also, Emily is an attorney.

You mean to tell me that you were the nanny and you didn't sign an NDA?

Like, I just the whole thing seems very stupid, I guess is the word I'm looking for.

I'm hoping there's more to Katie being a con artist than just this one podcast thing, I would imagine it spirals into other things, which is why all of the women fell out with her, because if even Jen fell out with her, I'm guessing it has to be more so, yeah, I'm not very interested in having a season talking about housewives contacting bloggers.

They all do it.

They all try to get their narrative across, whether it's an anonymous email in our inbox, whether it's a DM from them, sometimes sometimes from made up accounts, they're all getting their narrative out there, every one of them on every show.

They're a one who doesn't so right?

I think it still looks like it's going to be a good show, because don't forget, we have Tamara versus Gretchen.

We have Tamara quitting the show during the New Orleans cast trip.

And I don't know if you saw this, but Gina just put out a hilarious video on Instagram listing the things that she does not apologize for, including wearing the same hoodie multiple times, carrying the same purse the entire she's like, I just don't have time to change my purse all the time, not caring about her confessional look.

I just find her very refreshing.

I think she will be a bright spot this season again.

Yeah, and I, we also see that she moves into a new home like I Gina is doing what we wish other housewives did.

Gina is living within her means.

Yes, we know she gets a big check from Beverly Hills.

We know that she's having success with her real estate career, and with that, she isn't buying a million aviator nation hoodies.

She's buying one, and then she's putting her money away.

And now she's living in a larger home with her children and her boyfriend, Travis.

These are things we should be encouraging.

And I get that housewives started as aspirational, but there is something very inspiring about a woman who, when we met her, was a stay at home mom with a successful husband and didn't work and the bottom fell out of her marriage, and she had to pull herself up, get a career and buy her own home.

And I think that's inspiring.

And, yeah, she is should never have to apologize for using the same bag.

Yeah, I find it very refreshing.

But somebody told us, the source told us that on Beverly Hills, we're hearing that it's going to be Rachel Zoe's season on Beverly Hills.

So the tea said she's fully at the center of the show.

Dorit thought she would continue to be at the center, but Rachel is an actual star.

So you can you guys, we can all imagine how well that's going over with three and I guess all the girls love Rachel.

She's bringing a couture level of fashion to the show, which makes so much sense, because she's had her own line.

She's She was a very, very high fashion stylist to all the red carpet stars.

And somebody noticed that Rachel Zoe is following everybody.

But Dorit, so sounds like there could be a little fashion face off brewing, and I'm here for it.

You know, initially I compared her and said, Oh, I hope she's not like Becky Minkoff, who fell flat.

But that was silly of me, because Rachel is an OG reality star.

She had her own show on Bravo.

She knows how reality television works, so the idea that she comes in strong actually makes more sense than her sucking as a housewife.

Yeah, I'm excited.

I love that she's going toe to toe with dorit.

I can totally picture dorit being pissed that the spotlight is not on her.

Bring it all.

I love it.

Let's go.

I'm interested to see how she interacts with Sutton too, because I can kind of see it going, like, one or the other way.

Yeah.

I hope Jennifer Tilly is on again.

Yeah, we haven't confirmed.

And a lot of times with the friends, um, on Beverly Hills, it seems very loosey goosey where, like, sometimes they just end up popping up.

Yeah, she was another bright spot from last year, but this week, we hear that Denise Richards and her husband Aaron fibers are divorcing.

So According to People Magazine, Aaron pfeiffers Has the has filed for divorce from his wife Denise Richards after six years of marriage.

Per court documents obtained by people papers listed the date of separation as July 4, and cited irreconcilable differences as a reason for their split.

The actress first met fibers at his healing center in Malibu.

They began dating in June 2017 and tied the knot in September of 2018 per the documents, fibers, requested spousal support from Richards, who is 54 and also asked to keep their assets and debts as separate property, including his power tools.

Like like Denise wants the power tools.

That's what she's gonna hang on to.

Power Tools.

How about get your parents the fuck out of her townhouse?

How about that.

It was power tools, motorcycle and sports car.

The couple share no minor children, although Richards previously shared that fibers was in the process of adopting her daughter, Eloise, who is 14.

It is unclear if it was ever made official.

That's the saddest part to me, is that they were raising Eloise together, if they'd been together since 2017 she was about six years old.

He clearly was her father figure.

We're not sure if the adoption was official, but clearly to Eloise, that is her father, and I hope he continues to play a role in her life.

We also know that Aaron is embroiled with legal issues.

He's being sued because of his healing center.

A lot of people said, maybe this is just for financial reasons to separate their assets.

But why would he be asking for spousal support?

If that were the case?

Yeah, I was thinking, maybe let's try to get the show greenlit for a second season, because we know that it wasn't picked up.

Oh, I wasn't.

I did was that, oh, sometimes they do these, like, little spin offs.

I don't know if it was ever intended to, you know, I don't know, but it wasn't, I mean, and TMZ just posted today that they haven't heard that it's going to be now that she's splitting.

Listen, I love Denise.

She's kooky and quirky and fun.

We wish her the best for her sake, if she's happy with this guy, who I've never really I find his personality from boring to just weird power tools and all.

You know, he's cute, but he's a weird dude.

We also, like, I had people like, sources say that he's like a honey hopper.

He goes from one famous, wealthy woman to the next.

I think he's married to Nicolet Sheridan, so he doesn't have any money, maybe he feels he can do better financially looking for his next meal ticket.

That's just my opinion.

I don't know that I said because I had heard that the second season like they weren't picked up.

I was like, Beverly Hills is filming.

Throw Denise a check and have her meet a couple of the ladies for lunch and let's hear what's going on.

Yeah, I would love that.

And I agree with you, there was something always a little off about that dude.

Also, this week, pictures came out of Erica Jane, so maybe there's finally something to talk about regarding her love life.

So the man in the picture holding hands with her.

His name is he goes by Shrek.

Is his nickname.

He is the godfather to Heidi and Spencer Pratts kids.

He does security for Heidi, big time for an ex military guy, where it gets juicier the This sighting comes just as Erica's divorce from Tom Girardi might be getting tossed out of court, which what a nightmare.

A judge in LA reportedly scheduled a hearing for August 1 because no judgment has been entered and Tom didn't even send legal representation to the last one.

One of Erica's lawyers already said back in April that the divorce probably won't go anywhere, because Tom is not.

Competent to defend it.

He has been in a senior care facility since 2021 and was diagnosed with Alzheimer's, although I if I remember right, he was judged competent to stand trial.

That's what I was thinking when I read this.

So how that interesting?

While her marriage may technically still be intact, I mean, she's clearly moved on.

What a nightmare, though, can you imagine not being able to get divorced because your ex is ink?

Like there's gotta be some and we don't get a law to protect her in that situation.

We don't know how long Erica and this guy they call Shrek have been together, but we do know that she recently, and I'm trying to remember where it was Coachella, or I don't know that wasn't Coachella, but there was some festival where Erica, Jane was there and Heidi was performing.

So I don't know what came first.

Yeah, in London, I don't know what, what came first, the chicken or the egg.

Did she meet him?

There?

Were they already seeing each other?

Erica doesn't strike me as somebody who's like, dying to get remarried, but to just have to be legally, I don't know, because if he's competent enough to have to go to jail, then he has to be competent enough to be able to get divorced, like the two go hand in hand.

So hopefully she'll be able to get a divorce.

I mean, can't make somebody be stay married until what the man passes.

I That seems ridiculous.

And then legally, would she still be on the hook for repayment for, oh, geez, victims, if she's still married to him, I wonder, I don't know, this is where we need our our legal cocktail ers to weigh in on this situation, because I would think there's got to be some kind of law that would protect her, the competent person, you Know, Like the in a situation where one person is no longer competent and can't, can't go through with the divorce, one would think, you would think, yeah, so let us know.

Cocktails.

And then we woke up to a very interesting email.

We had heard nothing about this, but the subject title, keeping up with Kyle.

The umanskys are filming a pilot for NBC Universal.

It will feature the entire family, including Kyle and Mauricio.

Alex Baskin is producing.

Kyle has a vanity credit billed as Modern Family meets Keeping Up With The Kardashians.

I googled what is a vanity credit?

Basically, if you say that Kyle's a producer, but really it's just like, I don't know.

Well, I wonder if she's gonna get if it's gonna be set up the same way the Kardashians have had their show where they have ultimate editing say, which is, I think was genius on Chris's part, because we've even heard says a production credit given to an individual who has little or no actual involvement in the creation of the show.

It's essentially an honorary title often used to boost an actor's or other individual status or to fulfill a contractual obligation rather than reflecting substantial production work.

That's like, slam, yeah.

Listen, we have no reason to believe this isn't true, although we know that anonymous emails can be sent in from anywhere, the fact that they actually name Alex Baskin as the producer, leads me to believe this is based in truth.

Yeah.

And I think people would tune in, yeah.

I mean, I think I'll, I'll check it out for sure.

And so what cocktails are saying is, does she come out with her relationship with Morgan, which we don't even know if she's still with Morgan.

They have with Morgan.

They haven't been spotted together.

But do we think maybe she's holding out for her own show to do that, or we're never getting that stop?

It would make sense.

It makes sense.

Do you want to talk a little bit about the valley?

Should we save that for cocktail and talk about Atlanta?

Yeah, let's do it.

This is the current word on the street.

Okay, guys, it's basically stayed the same.

So NeNe Leakes, this is what we've been hearing.

Portia, Angela Oakley, Faith Shamia.

We're hearing Ken.

You're more likely a friend of Cynthia, likely a friend of and I had heard Kelly full time and Drew's name wasn't on the email.

Now, the most recent thing I received said Drew and Kelly, one will be a friend of one will be full time.

That sounds like a lot of people, because you got Nini, Portia, Angela, Phaedra, Shamia, that's five full time.

Yeah.

And then can your friend of Cynthia, friend of So Drew and Kelly would be nine ladies total.

I'm holding out hope that our original email, which didn't have Drew's name on it, is true.

And I like Kelly, and I think Kelly, whether she's a friend of her full time, is not important to me, but I think that it's important that she's on the cast.

Yeah, I like I really like Kelly, too.

I think Angela and Nini together, it could only be that they're gonna be thick as thieves, or that they can't stand each other, and either way, it would make great television.

100% do we feel bad that they keep just knocking Cynthia to friend of and then, like I felt like this season, Cynthia was a friend of but then when everything went down, when Brit was a bust, when Kenya had to stop filming, I feel like they leaned on.

Cynthia so much, and she really carried it, and she was a great thread.

And, yeah, I feel as a result of that, that should earn her full time status.

And I'm gonna be kind of bold here, what has Portia done that's so wonderful.

I also hear she's gonna be on love hotel too, and we know she has that overarching NBC Universal contract, so she's making big money from NBC Universal, so they're gonna throw her on these different shows.

But like, what has Phaedra done more so than what Cynthia has done?

I don't know.

Phaedra brings the funny, shady takes.

She comes up with great nicknames.

Honestly, I really I like having her on.

I think I do.

But do you think she's worth more than Cynthia?

I think Cynthia actually really excels in the friend of role, and maybe she likes it that way.

She doesn't want to get into the drama too much.

I do feel she never really was 100% comfortable with the drama.

So maybe you're right.

I don't know.

I just I get the feeling, because then she can still have the flexibility as a friend of to do all the other stuff that she does.

She's so great, by the way, on the two cheese podcast, I love her.

Dolores is great on it too.

Yeah, Dolores is really great.

Speaking of Dolores, you know, I would say it was a couple of months ago where you and I shared a rumor about Dolores filming for Rhode Island, and everyone and their brother told us we didn't know what we were talking about, and we had fake tea, whoa, we had a video sent to us of our girl, dolo, filming with the cast of Rhode Island on Block Island in Rhode Island.

Yeah, I didn't even believe it.

At first, I should be fair.

I didn't either.

But then, okay, I didn't, but then I started to, because it made sense when they were saying that her soon to be daughter in law is friends with the injector, who's on the show.

I keep getting pictures of the Rhode Island women filming together, but it's kind of like, we don't know them yet.

Yeah, are you with me on that?

Like, when you don't know somebody yet, it's, it's interesting, it's we have to post it, because then we go back to it and, right, that's true.

And, you know, like, so we have to share it, but we don't know them yet.

I'm just dying to find out more about which one is the one that's in the throuple.

I'm also dying to find out, like, there's a lot of connections to the mafia, which, like, brings the Mob Wives in it, and it's a terrible stereotype, but it's also, there's a reason why we all watch the Godfather and Goodfellas and all those movies, because it's the same reason a lot of women love true crime.

Speaking of friends up, oh yeah.

What were you gonna say?

I was just gonna say, speaking of throuples, are you watching and just like that, I am.

Why did I miss a throuple so I'm not, I'm not caught up.

It's so bad is AI writing the script?

I you know, I am.

I watched, I caught up.

I want to say all up until, like, maybe the last episode last weekend.

And I don't hate it.

What I'm not loving is, like, I think they're drawing the story lines out much longer, whereas, on the original Sex in the City, it was kind of great, because, like, each hour had its own little story, and then it also had part of the longer story, right, like Carrie and big but then Miranda was dating the guy who had to shower every time after sex, like, you know what I mean, like, and it was just like, there were, like, little vignettes, but then there were longer stories and And that is happening to a certain extent.

But Charlotte's daughter, the older daughter, is dating a guy, oh, right, who is also dating a guy, so he has a boyfriend and a girlfriend.

And this is Charlotte's daughter, who is presumably 17 or 18, because she's starting to get ready to apply to college.

What?

What the heck.

I don't like that storyline, because I don't like, how about this regardless?

Okay, of if the boyfriend has two girlfriends or one girlfriend of one boyfriend, what parent?

Never mind Charlotte, right?

Because we know that she's, I think she's, like, less buttoned up.

They always like, overplay that.

But in any event, that's like, but what it would be like me being, like, with my daughter.

Like, oh, he has two girlfriends, but you like him, okay?

Like, it doesn't matter that one of his partners is a guy.

It more matters that.

Why?

Well, because I don't know exactly my point.

Like, exactly my point, Polly, like, what is like?

You can't give something a name, and I hope I don't offend anyone.

You can't give something a name, and then make it okay to cheat on somebody.

There are people that are bisexual when they're in a relationship with a woman or with a man, they're expected to be with just that person, unless they have an open relationship.

And what 17 year old girl wants an open relationship, particularly when it's only open on the partner side and not theirs.

It just feels, yes, like I'm like, it just feels like a self worth thing and that that she's, she's like, I'll take him, even if I can't have all of them.

I don't like it.

I don't like it.

For a 1718, year old, I think if you're an adult and you've had much experience.

And you say you have a really busy career, and you don't want to have, you know, somebody that is fully committed to you because of yours.

That's a little bit different of a thing.

But in a 17 year old, I'm like, I don't like it.

I don't like it.

Icky to me.

The other thing that I find very odd is the character who plays Lisa Todd Wexley.

Season One, she talks about her dad dying.

Season two, I believe her dad was at dinner, and now her dad died again.

So it's happening, and why am I seeing shout out to Kiki, the talk of shame, because she posted that, and when she posted it, I was like, Wait, yeah, he did die for a season, so I think it was her step so Quincy Jones, I think was her stepdad.

So maybe her stepdad pass, and then now her I don't know, I don't know something.

I think it's something like that, but I agree, just a lazy storytelling, if, because, if they didn't realize that they had already done that, or if they did realize, then they would have clarified it a little bit more on the show, like that was my stepdad.

Now, I've lost my real dad.

I've lost them both.

Like that would be an easy way to fix it.

So it just felt a little bit lazy.

Because my other thing with the show is, okay, we've got Miranda dating her British girlfriend.

We've got, but she seems very interested in Carrie's downstairs neighbor, who is the author.

We have the hot gardener who Seema also seems very interested in.

And we have, can I ask you a question?

Yeah.

And I know there's a lot of chatter online how people have always said, like, Carrie's bitch, whatever.

I never agreed.

But Carrie being such a bitch with Miranda being in her house kind of bothers me a lot.

I mean, I don't know that she's necessarily being that bitchy, because, like, it would drive me crazy if my guests didn't run by the grocery I mean, there's a there's a bodega on every corner in New York.

Like you're eating the last year, you're drinking the last coke I get it, but that's like, she just got there.

Maybe if she, like, overstays her I don't know.

I feel like, at first, you'd be a little gracious, and like, yeah, I don't know if I had a friend come stay with me and they ate my last yogurt, I wouldn't say anything.

I would get more yogurts.

And then, if, like, they're still with me for two, three weeks and they're not purchasing anything, then I would maybe be like, Hey, listen, what's the deal with groceries?

Because I never have any yogurt and I never have bananas, like, I don't know she I think I will show up empty handed somebody's house either.

That's true.

And I also thought it was messed up.

Carrie was clearly so excited for that big dining room table, and then she had, like, all her stuff all over it.

That was inconsiderate.

Yeah, yeah, that's true.

I agree with that.

But it's, you know, it's, but also, why is she?

Why is Miranda living with Carrie?

She is a successful woman.

Rent an apartment.

Why are you Airbnb, right?

Yeah, I sell the house in Brooklyn, split the proceeds with Steve and buy a condo.

Most divorced people do, yeah, and where's Steve?

They're there, and I'm in a wheelchair.

Now, they made him a geriatric, and now we don't even see him.

But then he was, like, also getting all pumped up, like last season, and like, doing chin ups in the doorway.

Yes, yes.

It's the whole thing.

Lazy, Lazy writing.

I still watch it too.

I can't put it, but I'm starting to get mad, yeah, and then wearing the high heels all day inside your own Oh, like, that's not a thing.

It's not a thing.

I literally carry them to, like, all the way down stairs to right by my garage, and then I put them on before I get in the car.

There's no way you're like, so unpopular opinion.

I never liked Aiden for Carrie, and I fucking hate it now, I think it is ridiculous that he's in Virginia, and I'm not quite up to date, but I did see a clip where I believe he banged his ex wife, or he banged somebody because he was like, I was I was disloyal to you, and she's like, why?

Because you slept with someone else.

We didn't promise monogamy.

I just promised that I'd wait for you when you came back.

Like, what?

Oh, I haven't seen that clip.

You're damn near 60.

What are you waiting for?

Well, like, you're either gonna be with him or you're not.

And why would you be with him?

I mean, I respect that he's putting his son first.

And, like, Carrie even says it in the show.

She's like, I didn't really believe that you needed to be here for him, for Wyatt, but now I do after seeing this, because he, like, has this flip out.

He breaks a window and, like, acts like a total right?

But why is Carrie waiting for him that might not ever resolve, yeah, or if she feels so inclined, move to freaking Virginia, like, what?

What you're not do, that you're not in college to have a long distance, I don't know.

I found the whole thing and, like, what's the spark between them?

What?

I don't know.

I mean, it is really cute when he picks her up and, like, carries her into the bedroom.

I always like to see that, you know, young Aiden, maybe, but this version of Aiden I can't get behind, yeah, he's coming off a little like, a weenie.

Yeah, a weenie.

And.

That jerking off scene did him no favors, like Stop it.

I mean, this writing is all right.

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