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12-29-25 Hour 1: Broncos clinch AFC West

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Speaker 1

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Speaker 2

Oh, what's up boys?

Gorgeous day man, Little Chili Tyler, what's good?

Hi gott he's setting up.

I see his hotel room.

I'm sure he'll be with us here in a second.

In Miami, Miami.

Speaker 3

Welcome to Miami.

Speaker 2

Welcome to Miami.

Speaker 4

I'm just laughing.

Speaker 2

And Sean Baydon, Man, that dude is a freaking hoot.

Speaker 4

That guy.

Speaker 2

He was having some fun today.

Man, he was having some fun today.

Was laughing with good old Zach Stevens.

And he's talking about the the hats and the T shirts.

This was this was awesome.

Speaker 5

It's a good question.

Look the equipment.

God, you know what says, text me, what do you want me to do?

And I said, just put them in the lockers.

We we actually didn't even talk about it.

And I don't know if that's something I should have or omitted.

Yeah, I haven't seen the hats of the shirts.

My understanding is they're pretty ugly and uh, and we just didn't We just didn't really talk about it.

We just we the focus was on this week's game and the Chargers and the seating ramifications, really trying to educate them relative to what's gonna be important here down the stretch.

Speaker 2

I need to stinking hats and T shirts.

Speaker 3

But it is really anti climatic, would you when you fall into a championship without playing a game?

Yeah, it's super anti clebatic, Like like, I actually don't even know what you would do with the hats and the T shirts.

Seriously, So they're in your locker, what are you gonna do?

You're gonna put them all on and take a group photo in the inside the locker room.

Speaker 2

I guess, Oh, that's what the Patriots inside of, like an air plane hanger or something.

Speaker 3

Well, but at least they were like together as a team where they got it.

Speaker 4

You know what I mean.

Speaker 2

Listen, bro, I don't have any problems with it whatsoever.

But you could I mean, if you wanted to like rally everybody to the field house or something, have tables set up, you know you could do that.

Speaker 3

No, it's a work day, man.

We got a number one seed to go after.

Speaker 2

Hey, Scott, Welcome to the show.

Scotty all right, Tyler, Well, hold on, Scott, you gotta take a peek of Tyler.

There's gotta be some sort of story going on here, because this is as low as I've seen you in a long time.

Speaker 3

Yeah, no story.

I don't know.

I was I was looking in the mirror.

I was I was doing a little bit of trimming, and I was like, you know what it's coming off?

Speaker 2

No story, Wow, this was something inflicted.

Well it was intentional, but I mean you did this.

Speaker 3

You didn't go to the barber.

No, I didn't go to the barber.

I just do that is I just decided, I was it was coming off.

Speaker 4

Wow.

Speaker 3

And the irony is I didn't even do it for I didn't even do it for like like family activities.

I got through all the activities and then I took it off.

Speaker 2

After Okay, Yeah, so just just just an impulse or just just as it's going it.

Speaker 3

Was it was it was time.

I just I was I was ready for another change.

Speaker 2

Huh Okay, yeah.

Speaker 4

Or he slipped Paul trim in it and like shaved that right side of the mustache completely off, which god dang it, and it had to do that.

Speaker 3

No, but every time I do it, I do regret it, like like instantaneously, I almost regret it.

Speaker 2

I got him in it.

It's low.

Oh yeah, it's not gone.

It's not gone gone.

Speaker 3

Yeah, but it's about as low as.

Speaker 4

You can go.

Speaker 2

It is about as low as you can go.

Speaker 4

So what's stop?

Put like a put a one guard on it or something.

Speaker 3

I think it was two.

Speaker 2

What stopped you from just taking it?

Speaker 4

Literally?

Speaker 3

Like, oh well I'm not insane?

Speaker 2

Okay, so there was a limit?

Speaker 3

Yeah?

Yeah, yeah, this is the women.

Speaker 2

Are you gonna go get it tidied up by the barber?

Or are you just gonna started to tidy up?

I mean you got some neck stuff.

I mean it's not like as sharp as it would be if you went into like a barber.

Speaker 3

No, no, I mean why didn't I didn't shave shave underneath?

I mean I suppose I could do that, but uh yeah I don't.

I don't.

I don't touch an actual razor very often.

Speaker 2

Okay, all right, all right, you're happy with it, you're good with it?

Or do you instant regret like I miss it already?

Speaker 4

No?

Speaker 3

I mean I do usually regret it the second I do it.

But okay, that's all right, you know it was.

It was just an impulse decision.

Decided to go for it.

I mean the good news is I look good no matter what.

Speaker 2

So hey, that's all I'm talking about, Scotty.

How's Miami, my friends?

How's your road trip going?

Speaker 4

Good?

Good?

Warm, warm?

And now we get after you know, leave tomorrow and head up to the coldest places in the country.

Right, You're going to Toronto, New York, Brooklyn, Boston, Cleveland.

Speaker 2

Yeah yeah, yeah, so enjoy while you killing is it isn't Miami like weather there are you getting?

Speaker 4

Uh yeah, yeah, yeah.

I actually shut out.

I didn't sit in the sun, but I set out by the pool about seventy five seventy six.

He read my book.

It was nice.

Speaker 2

The loss to Orlando was terrible.

That was awful, dude, that sucks.

And then you get the l M two report, at least THEBA yeah.

Speaker 4

Last two minutes report, which is stupid.

Speaker 2

But yeah, they do do that though, and uh yeah, Jamal Murray was filed and should have gone to the line for free throws on the inbound pass.

Speaker 4

I said it in the first minute of that fourth quarter that the referees lost control.

I've seen the thousand times, all of a sudden, you start calling a little too many fouls.

Yeah, and then you got to even up.

And in the first minute and ten seconds of the fourth quarter between both teams, there have been six foul calls.

Six And I told Marlow at that time, I said, Chris, we're in for a quarter, a whole bunch of free throw shooting quarter.

And and you know, Adaman called it in that post game the longest fourth quarter he's ever been in because I think I think they shot seventeen free throws and we shot nine or two in something like that.

So it was, it was.

It was a poorly officiate game.

The NBA has got a refereeing problem.

Speaker 3

They just they all got a referee problem, all of them.

Speaker 4

Although, yeah, the NFL's had a whole bunch of miscues lately, too, haven't they.

Speaker 2

The NFL, anything in particular stand out to you.

Speaker 3

Not often's a pass interference, not having ingram was pretty garbage.

Speaker 4

Anything else they went back.

Did you see the video?

Did you see the video of the passing afferance they called on on certain in that game against Kansas City.

Yeah, that was kind of BSc I just like they guessed a few things.

Speaker 2

Let me bring you up to speed on Jamal to make him a as I've seen post.

I think d NBR had it the Jamal star, gonna be rough, gonna be tough man.

Fourteenth in fan voting, fourteenth got le man behind a bunch of dudes that he's having a better year then, But golly man, I don't even know one of these dudes at all.

This is my dad talk to me, and I'm sorry, I don't I should if he's actually got the seventh most votes Denny adjige vaga adjug adviland's having an unbelievable year.

God, I have not paid attention.

Is it better than Jamal.

Speaker 4

Uh first Israeli born player.

Yeah, he's helping keep Portland even he's in.

Yeah, he's very he's very, very good.

But but you know, and I wrote you back, he was never going to win the popular vote.

He wasn't going to get voted in as an All Star.

They only take the top five, uh from the fan voting.

It's the other fourteen.

I guess it would be right, the other fourteen that will be selected by coaches.

So he wasn't never going to get in that way.

I didn't think that buying the vote, So that doesn't surprise me at all.

Speaker 2

Uh to any other stories from the road that we should be aware of after that kind of rough loss, and uh, I don't know how spirits are or how they're they're fair, and there any reports about CB or AG anything we should know about those dudes.

Speaker 4

Well, both of them worked out hard before that Orlando game and are on this road trip.

And I said before we left, I think I think you'll see at least one of them before the end of the road trip.

I think they're gonna be awful cautious on on Aaron Gordon because of the soft tissue.

You know, you won't see Cam because they didn't even bring Cam on the road trip.

Speaker 2

Right, well we I mean cam here Cam we know is wow.

I mean four to six weeks and the look at it, so that could easily be two months, which which everybody is kind.

Speaker 4

Of with Denver, it'll be two months.

Speaker 2

Well probably, right, I mean, if history serves correct.

Speaker 4

Yeah, I was.

Speaker 2

I was disappointed with Orlando.

You can't hold a lead.

Speaker 4

Listen.

Speaker 2

I think any win at this point is gonna be rough.

Jokers doing joker things.

People are, you know, finally closing around on joker, which is a riot that I'm oh, it's.

Speaker 4

Crazy, like people if you get on the on the social media, it's like people.

Speaker 2

Oh my gosh, just got it's unbelievable.

Speaker 4

We've been trying to tell you this the the Here's what I thought.

There were landa games they didn't play horrible, that the turnovers and points off turnovers killed them.

But but I thought what really struggled and if you go back and look like like their starters are all plus sixteen, plus ten, plus fourteen, and I think combined your your your bench was like a minus forty five in a one point game.

And the problem is it's the benches bench that is having to play right now, right and you know, all this depth we talked about the beginning of the season, which helped them or win games because there wasn't such a drop off between starters and the bench come coming in.

Now we're back to last year.

Now we're back to starters go out and then you hold and then uh, you know.

Valence Unis hasn't played great in the last two or three games.

I was told last night that he's been sick, but no one new.

Speaker 2

Okay, but he.

Speaker 4

Also didn't he's not getting to play with Tim Hardaway and Brucen, those guys in combination, and now he's playing with you know, Zeke Nausey and Jalen Pickett.

Speaker 2

Okay, all right, well hang on for your life, you know what I'm saying.

So tonight it's Nuggets at the heat five o'clock right here on ninety two five.

Meanwhile, Avs hosting the Kings Blackwood and Net has a Burgundy pass, some new Burgundy pass.

Speaker 4

Tonight.

Speaker 2

The Avs won an unbelievable game over the weekend, which was crazy, winning a shootout they want to shootout?

How about that they actually want to shootout.

Nate mckaitna, who was shooting fourth out there fourth, but he sort.

Speaker 3

A start make a shootout.

Speaker 2

It was a sick goal man.

He's going full speed, puts on the brakes, doesn't stop, picks a spot, got it done.

Beat Vegas six to five.

They were down three times, they trailed three different times.

Twice they trailed by two goals and they came back to tie it up and then win and a shootout.

So they're just don't you think.

Speaker 4

Don't you think to me?

The gold Knights and they knocked Hi out of the playoffs what three four years ago?

But they're just in that same rivalry and fear factor as Dallas, Like they're right there.

Yeah, I think the Knights and Avalanche would have a hell of a series.

I'm actually I'm like, I got to watch the the Lway on the on the flight out to right.

Yeah, it's really really good in uh, but I felt like John's mom, you know, if you have to play Dallas in the playoffs again, do we really have to to?

You know?

Do do we really have to go down that road in that path one more time?

Speaker 2

Well, sadly we do, and then sadly it has to be in the second round because of the stupid way the NHL is set up.

Speaker 4

Do you know another one of my experts, so you know why they're the playoff rules are like that.

Speaker 2

No, I don't really.

Speaker 4

Because because can and it could never be represented a season when you started doing it the other way, and so they screw around with the stings and hope to get Canadian teams into the postseason.

Speaker 2

It's a way to get Canadian teams deeper.

Correct, you're right about that?

Forgot about that one.

Yeah, let's Jimmy jam things for Canada I appreciate it.

Speaker 4

All right.

Speaker 2

Listen, let's get into the Broncos in the seating, in the scenarios, and Sean was a who today of talking about ugly.

The hats are ugly.

Have you seen the hats I have?

Speaker 3

They are ugly.

He's not wrong, he is not wrong.

Speaker 4

They are.

Speaker 2

That is the thing about Sean Man.

He says things that tick people off, but very rarely is he just like wrong about those things.

You know, you had a feeling Bonix was special or whatever.

It turns out pretty good, had a feeling that this was a super Bowl worthy team.

Okay, turns out he was right.

Uh, says the hats are ugly.

All right, He's not wrong.

They're ugly.

They are ugly.

So we'll show it to you.

We'll describe them to you, and let's go over what we expect to happen with the seating and how this is going to play out, and what what Harbaugh is likely or not likely to do now that we know where everything stands.

That's coming up next.

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Speaker 5

Yeah, I mean I was watching it probably like everyone else, and it ended up being a close game, hard put game.

And then I think the immediate focus shifts towards Monday, Monday meeting, which we just had relative to our approach this week, normal schedule, Sunday twelve twenty five or two twenty five start time, and this game is very much like a playoff team.

Speaker 4

All right.

Speaker 2

That's Sean Payton earlier today about what lays ahead in front of the Broncos and what to expect.

What was your action just watching the games yesterday and how everything unfolding.

Speaker 3

Well, we got to help the treat to finish out the day, didn't we.

I mean, my gosh, that uh that forty nine Ers Bears game, Game of the year.

That that was unbelievable start.

They just couldn't stop scoring.

Every single drive somebody is scoring and it comes down to the wire.

Dude, that was a blast.

What else?

Uh, Sunday's games were kind of bad.

Bills sucked all of a sudden.

You're not so afraid of the Bills anymore.

I mean I've been I've been been trying to be honest about the Bills all year long, and yet at the same time, be like, do you still want to face Josh Allen in the playoffs.

I don't know.

I'm just starting to get the feeling the Bills are just not a very good football team.

Okay, what else?

Speaker 2

How do you think things sorted out for the Broncos with the Chargers losing?

Speaker 3

Well?

Feels a little bit anti climatic to be honest.

You you get the AFC West Championship and you wake up to some hats in your locker room and you know, all in week seventeen means a lot to you, but it means nothing to them.

Speaker 2

So let's start there.

Doesn't mean nothing to them?

Speaker 3

Well more or less.

Speaker 2

Yeah, doesn't matter.

Speaker 4

They can go for they can go for five to seven.

It depends on who's in your seating the way you think you can do well.

Speaker 2

Yeah, that is the big question, Like how do you think Jim Harbaugh will treat it?

Speaker 4

Like?

Speaker 2

You know, the reward of beating the Broncos is likely if things play out the way they're favored to, you just end up playing the Broncos again the next week in Denver.

That is the most likely scenario.

If you beat the Broncos, the Broncos be a three, you'd be the six.

The Bills would be the seven and Houston would be the five.

If and the spreads are crazy with all the games that are like, Jacksonville is twelve and a half favored over Tennessee, Houston is favored by ten over Indie.

Denver Frankly is favored by seven and a half.

But I mean, just for the sake of the argument, let's assume the Broncos actually lose this one.

The Patriots are favored by eleven and a half over Miami.

You see where I'm going here, Even the well the Ravens and Steelers that actually doesn't matter, but everything that could impact you if you're the Chargers, there's no it's not a reasonable concept that you're gonna go up to five, not really.

You know, you're you're probably gonna be if you win exactly where you are and you'd be facing the Broncos.

Now, if things go shock, if all the favorites also win, the next bet for the for the Chargers is they're the seven and they're playing in New England.

So what would you prefer if you're Jim Harbaugh?

I mean, how and I would too, by the way, But to what degree?

I guess I would ask you guys that like, what degree would you put your guys out to just try to play Denver again?

Speaker 3

Uh, it's weird, man, because here here's like you got to think about it game plan wise, there's a lot of different angles.

I'm not even sure that Denver is that great of an option either, because if you played the Broncos, you just go through a full game plan.

Did you play your guys or not?

If you do play your guys, well, you do show some of your stuff, you show what you you you think the Broncos are good at, what they're not good at.

Then you got to play them again and it's like, all right, well now we got to come up with a radically new game plan when we already used our best stuff.

So I don't think uh, for multiple for multiple reasons, I do not think they'll play their starters, even if they wanted to play Denver.

It's just like they're not gonna want to show what their game plan is going to be anyways.

Speaker 4

Scott, Yeah, that's that's the the dichotomy of it.

You know, you play out to win it boom and boom, and you win or lose whatever it is, and then you got to come back the following week.

There's no no, there's no hitting agenda, but there is a confidence gain from doing it once.

Listen, I think Jim Harball, you know we talked about last week.

I don't think he's a sane man anyway.

I think he's just coming to here, guns and Blazer are going to try to do it.

Win the game.

Speaker 3

Well, you're you're you might be dead on Scott.

I mean, he literally might not have it in him to rest the start.

Speaker 2

I was gonna ask, what do you think Harball would do?

Like where where do you think his head's at?

Speaker 4

I have a feeling he's gonna he's gonna come in agains of blazing.

Speaker 3

Okay, that feels like the Harbaugh thing to do, But when you really think about it, logically, it just doesn't make sense to play your guys.

It doesn't.

It doesn't, especially if you're gonna play Denver again.

Speaker 2

Right, that's the reward likely likely?

I mean, you know, you'd have to have some major upsets, like is Houston gonna lose to the Colts knowing what's on them?

Speaker 4

If the Chargers win it, they're gonna be back here next week?

Right?

Likely?

Likely?

Well, in Harball's are your tea, he's looking.

Do I want to go all the way to New England and play New England?

Right?

Uh?

Chances of cold weather?

In fact, we'll be there in a week, right, and the weather's all nasty, that big snowstorms all that.

Do we want to go out as California boys, go all the way out there?

Or go to Denver where it's a chance of being about fifty five sonny and nice and a softer team to beat?

I think that's what do you want to do?

Speaker 2

Oh, a softer team to beat?

Really, Broncos there a softer team in New England?

Speaker 4

Yeah?

Why because it can't score?

Speaker 3

Okay, well play you score twenty.

Speaker 4

Four, You score twenty four in Denver, you're liable to win.

Yeah, that's true and false.

It's true.

Speaker 3

And I mean I like Bownicks.

I like where he's at right now, but he's not Drake Bay.

Drake May is a legitimate MVP candidate still today.

Uh, there was a little window in there where it looked like he was backing off, and it looks like Matthew Stafford is gonna run away with it.

Statistically, I think Stafford's got six or seven more touchdow owns the Drake Bay Drake Blay is playing stupid good, stupid good.

Speaker 2

Okay, listen, I gotta agree with I would think the Chargers would prefer their odds by just coming back to Denver.

That to me seems a it's in the division.

The weather's been ridiculous out here.

Frankly, it's been great.

You know, who knows what it's going to be like in Foxborough.

Speaker 3

But here's the thing.

If you're the Chargers, I'm not really I don't really care enough either way that I'm trying to influence things.

I'm just doing what I think is the best best situation for my team in the health of my football team.

Speaker 2

Well, and then I'm not playing or not.

Speaker 3

Playing my starters based off of trying to get either Denver or New England.

Speaker 2

Okay, because they gave up five sacks to Houston.

They gave up five sacks to Houston.

Their offensive line has been beat to shreds this year.

They're hanging on Herbert's got that hand injury that he's wearing a Hamburger helper gloves still, you know, I.

Speaker 4

Mean that they are.

Speaker 2

They are going into this game a super healthy team, and they did just give up five sacks to the Texans and le Broncos defense sort of, you know, profile similar to the Texans.

And I don't think the Chargers are gonna play a wonky offense or defense like the Chiefs did.

They're just gonna be who they are.

So you run a lot of risks if you're Harbaugh and you just, you know, do what you need to do to actually beat Denver in Denver, you do, you run a lot of risks in that.

And what are the benefits of just getting a weak rest and treating this like a bye week that you're not gonna get anyway?

Speaker 4

This is it.

Speaker 2

This is your only chance to get a bye week going into the playoffs if you're the Charger.

Speaker 3

I think it honestly gives you the best chance to succeed in the playoffs.

By sitting down some guys against some brass, making sure Herbert doesn't get killed, make sure that he's alive, all those sorts of things, he gives you your best chance whether you play Denver or New England.

Speaker 2

Hey, they're gonna if you're the Chargers, you're playing a wildcard game on the road one way or the other.

Right, how do we want to go into that game.

Speaker 4

Do you want a five hour flight or a two hour flight?

Speaker 2

Wealth Then you can make that argument, Scott, You're right, you can make you can make I think it's a really interesting.

Speaker 4

One one time zone or three time zone changes.

Speaker 2

You're right about that too.

And I would think that the weather the chances.

Now it's Colorado, so anything can happen right in two weeks.

Who knows, but I think the odds of better weather are actually here in Colorado than in New England.

You saw what Buffalo was like, what a miserable set of I mean rain Sideways wins.

They don't trust their kicker.

I guess that's why they win for two.

I think I'm really not understanding what the logic of going for two except for trying to win the game.

What do you mean, Well, the kicker had a extra point blocked, and I don't know if they really trust him.

Speaker 3

He's been I wasn't on the kicker though.

Speaker 2

Okay, whatever their operation got the kick blocked.

They didn't trust their operation.

Don't you have a chance to win?

Speaker 3

Fun that's true, but I mean they're in the game, they got a chance to win it.

They'd suck the entire game.

They hadn't been able to move to the football all day long.

Here's a chance, one playway you win.

Speaker 2

Yeah, well they had to play and it was the play work play.

Speaker 4

It was.

Speaker 3

It was a tough throw, but it's a throw that Josh Allen makes a lot.

Speaker 4

Yeah.

Speaker 2

So these are the compelling questions going into this.

I don't think the questions for the Broncos are all that complicated.

There's just too much on the line and too much to benefit.

Speaker 3

Oh, there is nothing to debate.

I mean, you got to win the football game.

Even if even if the Chargers came out and you saw the the pregame report and they had seventeen in actives from their matter, it doesn't change anything that you're doing.

You're not sitting down Patcher Tay and you're not sitting down anybody.

You're just going out there to win a game.

Uh.

Speaker 2

Here is a little Sean Payne from earlier today.

Speaker 4

Chargers.

Speaker 5

Yeah, there were two third down calls, which was unusual, good calls by Houston.

I don't know that there were any great adjustments made.

I think they dropped coverage on one and then there was a pretty good design on the other, and then I think, look it became at that point.

Uh it became a battle of field position.

You know, surprisingly, you know, probably one of the best kickers that we've seen in the last twenty years, mister field goal and a pat uh in rarely fairly benign conditions.

You know, that's something that you know, no one would have counted on.

But two good defenses playing it felt it felt like a playoff game.

Speaker 2

Yeah, and the and the Chargers just kind of wilted.

Speaker 4

Man.

Speaker 2

I don't know, man, you're at home.

You have a chance if you win this game to play for the AFC West the next next week and home field and all that sort of stuff.

And it just came up.

Oh man, the whole Charger is going to charge your thing, all right, boys, So how do you think it's set that for the Broncos for the playoffs?

Speaker 4

What do you think.

Speaker 3

To be beautiful?

I mean, you're you're one freaking win away.

You're one way away for getting everything that you could have ever asked for and being in a beautiful position to go fight for a championship.

Look, the Chiefs game was if if if you are a custom to this style of football, I guess you walk away from it and you're like, okay, cool, you did a lot of good things.

You had four good drives offensively strung together, fourteen to fifteen plays.

But if you're a worry wart, you're walking away from that thing like, oh god, thank god, where you got a good chance in this number one seed.

Because you don't get that number one seed, you don't have a fighting chance going on the road.

Speaker 4

Hi, I worry.

Nice to meet you, mister Whard, if you want.

I thought that was a borying game, but I you know, I haven't talking to us, so sure.

Yeah.

Defensively, I thought they played pretty good, though, Tyler, they were fine.

I mean, it was bounce back defensive game from what they had I guess.

Speaker 3

I mean, I'm a little bit reluctant to call it a bounce back game when you got a quarterback that nobody even knows where he went to school.

Speaker 4

But they also to that last drive had fifty six yards through the air, So what like, they weren't doing what they were supposed to do, And I think ten of their thirteen points were because of short fields.

Denver gave him right the interception in a long return.

Speaker 3

Defensively, my only concern is what's happened to Jonathan Cooper and Nick Bonito, where are these two dudes, because they have been missing in action.

Speaker 2

We found out today sacks don't matter.

Speaker 3

Well, I've been telling you that for a long time.

The pressures are more important than sacks.

Speaker 2

Well, here you go with your boy Chontayne on that same thing.

Speaker 3

Yeah, Sean, Nick Benito after a hot start hasn't had quite as many sacks here, Hard Lenni lately and not worried.

Speaker 5

About the sacks.

Not worried about the sacks, worried about caging the quarterback, rushing them properly.

So we're not focused on the sack numbers.

Those can actually be numbers that help a quarterback climb up in the pocket.

So a lot of it maybe has to do with who we've been playing relative to the quarterback position.

But I'm not interested in the sack numbers.

Speaker 2

Okay.

Speaker 3

Well, so what he's saying there, specifically in regards to the last week's game against the Chiefs, is there's only one way that quarterback is going to hurt you, and he's going to hurt you with his feet.

So their sacker fight seeing the ability to rush the passer because they want to box rush to this guy and then want to make sure that nobody is giving up any alleys for him to sneak out.

So that's what he's saying based off the quarterback that you're playing.

I mean, if you rush high, if you try to run the hoop, then you do give a big you vacate a big hole for him to try to sneak out of.

That being said, I thought you were leading towards the line of pressures are more important than sacks, and I would agree with that.

But when we're not getting pressures or sacks and those two guys, it's a little bit concerning.

Speaker 4

Well, then they have five sacks on the Lawrence the week before and still kind of got beatn that game and a couple of times that they didn't have as what is Shawn just called a box rush and they let him get out of the pocket.

Then he heard him with the legs two or three plays also, so maybe there is more of a focus on you know, let's get pressure, but let's make sure we're saying our lanes to these quarterbacks.

As Tyler just saying, I ain't getting out and beating us with their feet.

Well, Herbert is key for if you play Herbert this Sunday.

Speaker 2

Yeah, he's not quite as mobile as as Lawrence.

I mean he can run around a little bit, but he ain't like Trevor Lawrence.

Yeah, he can move, I mean sort of.

You know, he's another one of these big dudes that you know, you can scramble for five, six, seven, eight yards if you have to.

Lawrence, I think is more of a just a threat Perier.

Plus you know Herbert, they're trying to probably protect a little bit because his hand is hurt.

If let me, let me just run this past you guys.

If all the favorites win, okay, and everybody's like a heavy favorite, Broncos seven and a half, Patriots ten, Jacksonville like twelve.

Houston's a big favorite, and Buffalo's a big favorite too.

So if everybody just wins, that means and who do you like?

Do you like Baltimore or Pittsburgh?

You tell me who do you like?

Speaker 3

Probably Baltimore right now?

Speaker 2

You like Baltimore, Scott, you like Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh, you like Pittsburgh.

We can run both scenarios.

Speaker 3

You see that performance from Derrick Henry, Oh my gosh, dude, that was an epic all time performance.

Speaker 2

All right, Texans against Pittsburgh.

Who do you like?

Speaker 3

Texans?

Speaker 4

Scott?

Speaker 2

It's in Houston, right, Nope, it'd be in Pittsburgh.

Speaker 4

Uh sho, Houston, Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh.

Speaker 3

All right, he's a Pittsburgh guy.

Speaker 2

Pitts Texans against uh Baltimoreans.

Speaker 4

Texans?

Speaker 2

All right, Tyler?

Speaker 3

Yeah, I'd say Texans.

Speaker 2

Okay, I'd say Texans for everything.

But that's that's fine.

You like uh Bills at Patriots?

Speaker 4

Who do you like?

Speaker 3

Patriots?

Speaker 4

Landslide Scott Bills?

Speaker 3

Oh?

Okay, you're just being contrarian.

Today's that what you're doing?

Speaker 4

All right?

Speaker 3

You hold on?

Hold on.

I gotta challenge you on that one a little bit way.

Where are you getting Bills over the Patriots right now?

Break that one down for me?

Uh?

Speaker 4

Well, it's it's three weeks away.

And the reason I'm saying that, I think once the regular season is over, the real, the real season begins, and this is new for the Patriots and new for the quarterback, and I think it's a chance for the Bills to kind of reset.

I felt like the Bills and I'm not sure they're as good as they they've been in years past, but I just felt like the Bills were playing to just get to the postseason.

Well, you got what you wish for, all right, let me make it.

Speaker 2

Let me make an adjustment on that, because I got a little head, I got a little over my skis on that, because if the Chargers losing the Bills when the Bills are favorite is let me do this again.

Although that's an interesting take.

Chargers against the Patriots.

Speaker 4

Who do you like?

Patriots in Sandy in the New England?

Speaker 2

Yes, New England, okay, fine, Bills against the Jaguars in Jacksonville.

Speaker 3

Jaggs.

Speaker 4

Bills, Okay.

Speaker 3

Scott's gonna stick with the four minutes without being able to get first down yesterday.

Speaker 2

That's fine, That's fine.

Fifty four minutes, all right in Scott scenario.

In Tyler scenario, it's the Broncos against the Texans at home.

In Scott scenario, it's the Broncos against the Bills in Denver.

Who do you like in that one?

Tyler?

I'll go, I'll go with you.

Broncos are Texas.

Speaker 3

I actually think that's a decent matchup for the Broncos.

I mean, it's a very similar football team because it's a deft'sive oriented team, but at least it's not a team that offensively is gonna put up a million points.

So I'll take the Broncos at home.

Speaker 2

Okay, Scott, you like the Broncos or the Bills.

Speaker 3

We'll go on the Bills, though, Well, that's okay.

Speaker 2

That's Scott scenario.

If he's got the Bills beating the Jaguars, they're the lowest seated team, and if the if the Broncos are number one, you'd be hosting the Bills.

I favored the Texan scenario, but I'll play along with Scott here.

So who do you like?

Bills are or Broncos?

Speaker 4

You like Bill?

Speaker 2

Okay?

Speaker 4

Fine?

Speaker 2

Under your scenario, Tyler, the Broncos just beat the Texans.

So Scott scenario, we're kind of done.

Scott's got the Broncos losing to the Bills at home and the season's over.

Okay, it was fun.

Under your scenario, you just beat the Texans.

You have the winner of Jacksonville the Patriots.

Who do you like, Tyler?

And Jacksonville would have to go to New England?

Who do you like in that one?

Speaker 4

Hmmm?

Speaker 3

Probably the Patriots, but I'm really tempted to take the Jags really tempted.

Speaker 2

Yes, I want to.

Speaker 4

See the Jags.

I still want to see their record.

They haven't played a lot of cold weather games.

I want to see.

And I think that that's been real for a lot of years.

I think they struggle in New England.

I'll take New England.

Speaker 2

Okay, fine, so ultimately I'll just give you.

Speaker 3

But I've got to come down to what everybody thought would come down to anyways, And I think it's gonna be a lot of fun.

I mean, Broncos against Broncos gets an old rival the Patriots.

Let's go.

I mean that what's old is do again?

You get to face off gets PATRIOTSFC championship game.

You got an old rivalry, it feels like a new rivalry.

You got two new young quarterbacks.

It would be a dream come true just from a fan perspective.

Speaker 2

And you got winning.

Speaker 3

Oh man, why why do you gotta put me on the spot there already?

Speaker 2

Because that's where.

Speaker 4

Before while he's saying about finishing up my who's in the ANFC Championship?

Speaker 2

From my thing, you already got the Bills beating the Broncos.

Speaker 4

You got no we could we could we could get an AFC representative for the super Bowl.

Speaker 2

And we don't care.

After that, Scott, We're on to like who the Nuggets?

Speaker 4

God, well, let me play the stupid courd.

Speaker 2

You got the Broncos eliminated by the Bills.

We're moving on, man, lifelike.

It was a good scene.

Speaker 6

Who would the Bills play?

In my scenario, the Bills would be playing the Bills would be playing the lower Uh, the Patriots.

The Bills would be playing the Patriots.

Speaker 4

I thought they beat them in the first row.

Speaker 2

Uh no, it's uh, there'd be the Chargers losing the Patriots.

The Bills would be beating Jacksonville in your scenario, so they'd be playing the Patriots.

In your scenario, you got the Bills going to the super Bowl.

There you go, all right, Tyler Broncos.

Speaker 3

I'm not gonna be a buzzkill right now.

Put me on the spot in a couple of weeks and maybe I'll give you proper analysis on it.

But yeah, let's go Broncos in the super Bowl.

Speaker 2

I think the progress are going to the super Bowl.

I think I agree with you.

Look at at all this, and I'm trying not to be a homer here, but I think all the fevers.

Speaker 3

I worry a lot about that Patriots game.

I mean, that's a that's a damn good quarterback, and unfortunately Josh but Daniels is a dang good offensive coordinator and our defense has been slipping.

Speaker 4

Well.

Speaker 2

I have the Jags beating the Patriots, though I have the Jags coming back here.

Speaker 3

Oh god, I think I'd rather play the Patriots and the Jags.

Speaker 4

Yeah, I agree with that.

Speaker 3

I'm hoping the Patriots beat the Jaguars.

Speaker 2

I agree with you on that too.

Speaker 3

But you got to beat in the Jags either way.

Speaker 2

Yeah, because and stan Liam Cohen and that's great analysis.

Well, that's that's.

Speaker 4

Where not we're not being Homer.

It sucks.

Speaker 3

Exactly.

Speaker 4

I'm not to me at kIPS.

Speaker 2

Perfect perfect, That's where I'm at.

All right, Well, that's that's what it boils down to, and we'll see how it plays out.

But it's not there's no bias.

Broncos, you know, take care.

They they they they they Broncos destroyed the Jaguars.

You know what that means.

They went by like you know, three.

So that's the Broncos kicking ass.

It's PhD here on ninety two five.

I'm looking at the text line, it is funny this time of year, you do get the the guy could always be following falling sort of vibe.

You know, remember the Mark Brunell game.

The Broncos team was five times this one.

Remember that game?

Yeah that was a nightmare.

Yeah yeah, Well.

Speaker 4

The interference call against Denver that would that would have turned out to like a pick six.

It said they went back and called interference and the guy who ran through the receiver intercept to the ball changed the game went down.

Heel from there.

Speaker 3

Was it at Homer on the road?

Speaker 4

Oh?

Home home?

Speaker 2

Oh that's a Scott was on the call that one.

That was a legendary.

Speaker 3

That was just the giant.

Speaker 2

What game was it was a ninety seven Jacksonville Mark Burnell, Yeah, Scott, that was it probably did take the Jags a little too lightly.

What was what was the.

Speaker 4

John Elway talked about it.

John Elway said it was the worst loss of his career.

Speaker 2

Yeah, let me ask you a big question on that one though.

I was always told that because of that loss, not only were the Broncos motivated and went on to win the Super Bowl the next year, but it really propelled them to to Super bowls because of that.

Do you believe that?

Do you think that loss actually was a little bit of a fire starter for them to win two in row after that?

Speaker 4

I think it was a fire start.

I don't know about two, but I think the second one was they were just I mean, they were in a groove, man.

They were in a groove that year.

If you remember, they won the first thirteen games in the season and then got bet on kind of a flukey, played against the Giants, blown out by Miami, and then won their last game to win fourteen.

But Ed McCaffrey told me after that game on a Sunday, he sat around just blues all evening and Monday he finally said, I'm going to go into the facility and work out.

On Tuesday said, I went in there and there's probably forty or fifty of my teammates.

Speaker 2

That's crazy.

Speaker 4

And he said, that's when I knew we'd be okay because guys were just as pee old as he was.

And the work started basically thirty hours after that loss.

They were getting back in the weight room ready to go.

So, yeah, I think I'm motivated for the next year.

Speaker 2

Sure, here's a little Sean Payton.

Now, did you catch Sean being funny on Twitter over the weekend.

Speaker 3

Yeah, that was kind of interesting, and I was trying to figure out why he was involving himself in that one.

A couple there were.

Speaker 2

Two things there.

There was the NFC South thing where it was like, hey, it was like it was about an article about how great the Rams were, and he did.

Speaker 3

Like anal perspective.

Speaker 2

Yes, he did an upsound, upside down smiley face to that post because of course he goes to the you know, pass interference in the Saints and the Rams and all all that.

That goes back a little bit.

But there was another post too, Zach Stevens from d NVR, Sean Payton and the Broncos achieved their first goal.

A lot being made about the goals, the first goal of winning the AFC West, and so Sean gave that a smiley face because Zach was, you know, going above and beyond to talk about the first goal.

So today Zach asked a question coach.

Speaker 7

First off, congratulations on winning the division, but you mentioned you have your eyes set on the next goal of getting the best seed possible.

Speaker 5

How important goal the second one?

Speaker 7

Yes, yes, the second one?

How important is it to uh?

To get that home field advantage and potential number one seed.

Speaker 5

Well, look, I just historically speaking, it's extremely important.

You know, every every study would show you, and there's a number of reasons for that.

You know, these games are three hours long the first time.

Speaker 2

And then he goes on why it's we all know why it's important to be the number one seed.

That was Sean kind of you know, that's lighthearted.

Speaker 3

Sean Shawn had time to kill this week.

Speaker 2

Sean was sitting around on the couch like all of us, just sort of watching games, looking at Twitter.

It's kind of like he's, you know, one of us, sort of moment from Sean Payne.

Guys like that.

Speaker 4

You like, yeah, I'm sure he was just like a whole lot of people that day.

Geez, I bet I bet he was blanch Bring me the victors plan.

Speaker 2

However, you enjoy your day off, Scott.

You know, who are we to judge how somebody has a I.

Speaker 4

Have no judgment in that.

I'm just you know, you don't think that was maybe a motivation.

Speaker 2

You think that's what was going on.

I think he's just like a Twitter.

Speaker 3

I actually couldn't figure out until you just explained it to me.

Why he was giving that upside down face because I thought he was giving an upside down face like to the Falcons, like good luck becoming the Rams.

I didn't realize it was about the passenger fear.

Speaker 2

Oh yeah, yeah, that's what it was about.

Speaker 4

You know.

Speaker 2

Today in the conference call too, he made a reference to the Broncos and he said, they like in the past, you know, like they they.

Speaker 4

Did this, they did that.

Speaker 3

I think that's pretty normal.

Speaker 2

Yeah, it's still three years in and he's still it's not a it's not a you know, no.

Speaker 3

You separate yourself from from your regime versus previous regime.

Speaker 4

There's spate from previous regimes.

You just don't separate yourself from your past regime with in another city.

Speaker 2

No, he doesn't lot to do that either, So he carries that and he separates from the Broncos then and now.

I don't know, listen, I think it's these are all just characteristics of Sean.

It's not a negative.

The guy is a damn good coach.

And you know, how about the fact that it's what is it him and Parcels five times with thirteen or more wins in a season.

Only two coaches who've ever done that NFL history.

I mean, that is who this dude is.

But he's also the same guy who says, do you say that.

Speaker 5

There's the hats of the shirts?

My understanding is they're pretty ugly.

Speaker 2

I mean it's that guy too.

It's that guy who did no celebration.

He didn't even mention it in the team meeting today.

Speaker 3

I think that was the right move.

I honestly do what what are we gonna do?

We're gonna go go pops of balloons because we got some AFC West.

Speaker 2

What do you do?

Speaker 3

Nothing?

Speaker 4

Nothing?

Speaker 3

Nothing.

I mean it's one thing.

Would you win a game, but all of a sudden they hand you the hat on the field and everybody's celebrated.

You put that thing on, but it's like you just fall into it over the weekend.

What are you gonna do?

Throw it after the party, after the fact party.

Speaker 4

I look at it.

Yeah, it is what it is when you know, they kind of got to back into it this way.

Great, Okay, the funny thing of him making fun of them being ugly and everything else.

I guess he just now pissed off one more branch of the NFL league officers than now, like you know, but.

Speaker 3

They really are ugly.

They are really like, I wouldn't buy that hat.

If I had money to waste, I would.

Speaker 4

I bought hats that were championship hats and stuff like that, and they're all a waste anyway.

Speaker 2

Thirty eight bucks for that ugly hat.

Speaker 3

No, I've still got like eight brand new, unworn AFC West Championship hats probably, like I don't even know.

I don't even know what to do with them.

They just they've been sitting in my closet for ten years.

Speaker 2

Facebook Marketplace, dude.

Speaker 4

Say save one, put it in plastic and donate the others.

Speaker 2

Fake all sorts of pain manning autographs on them, and just you know, there you go.

Things left and right.

The Patriots had a different tone in their celebration.

But the Patriots were together.

Speaker 3

Way different because they were actually watching the game together.

They celebrated it together.

Speaker 2

Yeah, And then Vrabel got them all like I don't know where the buses were going, some sort of hanger or something before they got on a plane, I think, and they they took a picture and they all put the shirts on.

Speaker 8

They seemed happy.

Speaker 2

That's different.

They're all together, right, you know.

In Rabel Game of rah rah, and they're all, you know, getting on a plane and you know whatever.

I'm sure the Broncos would have done something like that, but it was.

Speaker 3

Probably it was probably worthy of like a a passing and mentioned mentioned in passing in the team meeting, like hey, congrats win in THEFCUS Championship, but we're moving on, you know, even something like that, because though man.

Speaker 2

One other coach in the league would rip on the fashion stylings of the hat and team.

Speaker 3

Well, he ripped on the Broncos.

Uh when when they had to wear the.

Speaker 2

Blues right right right, right right right, he's he's he's fashion forward that Sean Page.

Speaker 5

I haven't seen the hats of the shirts.

My understanding is they're pretty ugly.

Speaker 4

All right.

Speaker 2

Do you guys like that the Broncos didn't celebrate at all?

Speaker 3

I mean at all, like nothing I do.

Speaker 4

You can celebrate Sunday?

So you so you like it?

Oh?

So yeah?

Speaker 2

You you like that they didn't do anything today?

Speaker 4

Yeah?

I liked that they did nothing nothing.

Go go go win that game Sunday and celebrate this exactly?

Who cares about?

Yeah, have a block party out in the guy's parking lot.

Speaker 3

I assumed we won the AFC West about four weeks ago.

Speaker 2

Alright, cool, like, we've been there, We've been here before.

This ain't no big deal.

We're not going to celebrate this.

Speaker 3

No, do you do?

Speaker 2

You celebrate the number one scene you went Sunday?

Something there you.

Speaker 3

Do that's worthy of celebration, for sure?

Speaker 2

Something there?

Speaker 4

Right.

Speaker 2

I gotta admit I started laughing out loud when I heard Sean say that today it was a riot.

Speaker 4

I actually think.

Speaker 2

It's kind of cool.

Speaker 3

If we're baseball, we'd have goggles on a random Monday.

Speaker 2

Oh god, oh my god, it'd be ridiculous.

All right, well, let's get to where everything lays and let's catch out with the Nuggets to see what's give you an update with the Avalanches.

Speaker 4

They just everybody one quick a note that history continues one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirty five.

Do you realize this is the fifteenth straight year that that either Kansas City or Denver has won the AFC West.

Speaker 2

That's crazy.

Speaker 4

Fifteen years that's either be in Denver or Denver had an ice run, or it's in Kansas City.

I mean fifteen years.

Speaker 2

We'll get into the other games this week.

But did you guys catch how the raiders just lay down to the giants too?

Speaker 4

Oh my god, it didn't you expect it?

Speaker 3

Isn't that?

I mean you should be advocating for it.

Speaker 4

I yeah, I think about Cleveland too.

We need to talk about that today.

Speaker 2

We'll get into all of it coming up.

It's PhD On ninety two five.

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