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I understand Tyler, you and moje on the call of fossil Ridge and Regis.
Speaker 3Right, Yeah, we had a good time, man.
I mean it was a blowout of a game, but always fun and that was homecoming for Regis.
They got a quarterback, man, they got a quarterback.
Pretty dang special, six foot four cannon of an arm, runs like the wind Rubley TJ.
Rubley's son, by the way.
Okay, well yeah, Luke, good but good looking prospect.
Speaker 2All right, Well, the high school football season goes quick and coacher against Rasse Valley.
Are you are.
I don't know what schedule is like who's doing what games as as time goes on, but we'll have the game for you on Friday night right here on Altitude Sports Radio.
As we'll have the Lions and the Ravens tonight kicking off around six fifteen or so, So look forward to that.
All right, a rally house football Monday.
Here is Sean Pinge getting a little snippy.
You gotta understand he was asked multiple times about bo Nicks and the bad throws, and he's he's really insistent that's not that big of an issue.
Speaker 3We all bring different things, you know, so hopefully.
Speaker 2You know, I tell you there's the obvious.
Speaker 3Things that I bring.
You know, work ethic and who love the game.
Speaker 2Dan, he'll be out there.
That is definitely that.
Speaker 3Does not sound like Sean.
Speaker 2More like that was on bow either No No, no, cut four from Sean Payin from today, Dan, if you get that, Okay, so we just got to a lot of seconds.
Just get that out of get that cut four.
Yeah, it's a good setup.
I mean I was rolling right there.
Speaker 3We go.
Speaker 4About the deep ball again, yes, meaning the conversations relative with the que would be would not be those those two deep balls on third and like twenty three or third and eleven, but there were three.
Speaker 5The conversation would be, oh, throughout the game, relative to plays we're getting in and out of location throws third down.
I mean, but uh, a lot's been made.
I think of the of the two long balls, and I'll be honest with you, and that that again drive in this morning.
That'd be like fifty fiftieth on my to do list item.
Speaker 3But would you have like won the football game if you connected on one of three not two?
Yes, three?
Speaker 2Just to be clear, it's fiftieth on his list.
Speaker 6Yeah, Well, the fifty those list is trying to tell us that you're stupid.
Speaker 3That just means you're stupid.
I mean, listen, I don't expect a quarterback to connect on everyd ball.
There's a reason why they're tough.
There's a reason why you only throw them three, three or four times a game.
If that so, I get it, man.
I mean you you you airbail one, no big deal, but you get three cracks at it.
Shoot, I'd like to think you make one out of three free throw Scott, or maybe maybe one out of three threes, right, I mean one out of three three pointers for a big guy.
Well, back in the day.
Speaker 6You can, but right now I can make one out of three free throws for sure.
It'd be easy.
Speaker 2Easier to make.
Speaker 3Dream last night, really a air balled at three pointer.
It was like it was like it was like a childhood like nightmare dream.
Yeah, I don't know, I was.
I think so.
I think I was in high school and I like shot put it that thing.
It just it didn't go well.
It didn't go well.
Speaker 2Yeah, I still have anxiety about taking tests.
Speaker 3You guys.
Are you guys ever have like a recream sports nightmare dream?
I had one with baseball.
I had one with baseball, and I'd always I just smoke one.
I'd smoke a liner, you know, right down the left field line.
You're around in first base, and all of a sudden, my feet would get like stuck in the mud and I literally couldn't run, and I'd be like just trying to get to second base.
Should being easy, I should be getting the third really easily, but it just couldn't get the third because my feet got stuck in the mud.
It was terrible.
Speaker 2That's weird.
Yeah, you know I played no no no, No, I know, I know you did.
It's just weird that that's the sport that gave you the most anxiety that.
Speaker 3Well, baseball is my first love.
I wanted to be a picture that was that was my first love.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 6I kept having a recurring dream that my brothers were swimming in the swimming pool and there were sharks in there and I was trying to get him to get get out of the pool and they wouldn't never get out of the pool.
Speaker 3Those sharks in those pools.
Speaker 2I don't know if I even believe you on that recur.
Speaker 6Well, that's true.
I used to have when I was younger.
I had that multiple times.
That's what I told you said.
It means that you're trying to take care of your brothers and you don't think you can.
Speaker 3I dreamt that things were gonna be different for the Broncos this year.
That didn't happen.
Speaker 2It's not over.
We got a long way to go here, long way to go.
But I'm trying to calm down a little because the more that you talk about it, THEO like more like unreasonably pissed off.
Speaker 3That's because you're missing overreaction.
Monday.
Speaker 6We can we can do those things I did a few weeks ago.
Your overreaction is this is going the absolutely wrong direction, and I don't know what stops it.
Speaker 2Two in one, you should have been two and one after three weeks, so you're you're behind the eight ball here.
Speaker 3Sorry, you should have.
Speaker 2You before the season started.
You were looking at the schedule, and I think most people would say, hey, two and one.
Speaker 3Charger, if you're talking preseason, sure season, based off health.
The game's unfolded, you should have been three and Oh.
Speaker 6I kind of had them one and two, one and three, So I'm actually good because I think and.
Speaker 2Two, well, as it turns out you catch a break because of Burrow.
Then yeah, Eagles on the road, All right, let's just say that's a loss.
So you're two and three.
They should beat the Jets in England hopefully.
The Giants appear to be a little bit of a mess, although entertaining, there's still a mess.
So theoretically there's four and three they Jets.
Speaker 3Is non gimme anymore, though, I mean.
Speaker 2I don't think any of these games are gimmes for the Broncos.
Speaker 3Jets played the Bucks real tough.
Speaker 2The Broncos had their gimme game.
They already had it against the Titans.
That was their gimme game, and that that was.
Speaker 3A lot more dramatic that Bengals feels like a gimme game.
Yeah, Bengals now feel like a gimme game.
Yeah now yeah, yeah, I hope.
Speaker 2So that'd be great.
I mean, I think it's like, you gotta have it.
They just last forty eight to no, I hate, I get it.
I mean, it's it's one of those you gotta have.
Like you don't have to beat the Eagles on the road, not really, but you gotta take this game against the Bengals, no doubt about it.
I make the argument you gotta take the game against the Jets and the Giants.
Speaker 3You're zero and two on the road, right, and you got to win at least four games on the road.
So where they coming pick them, right.
Speaker 2And it'd be tough.
Now, I mean Vegas, Jeff Jets.
Technically is Jacksonville a home game or road game?
That's a home game.
We don't have our schedule right here.
Speaker 3Well that's gonna be you know they pound at Houston, right.
Speaker 2Yeah, how about Houston kind of going down the toilet?
Speaker 3Huh, that's a road game, yeah, Jacksonville.
Speaker 6So there's three, right, But they're playing better.
I'm not a big believer in Lord.
Speaker 2And you know who's not good?
And they won last night and it was just annoying.
As the Kansas City Chiefs.
They ain't that good.
So how about picking that one up?
At least split with them more than that?
How about sweeping them, about taking them, about taking the Raiders?
You know, they're they're they're garbage there.
They ain't doing nothing.
That thing is going to implode.
I listen, there's a long way to go.
But here's here's the truth.
Here's the truth.
BO can't play like this.
He's got to be better.
The team is good enough, and you know what, Bo's good enough.
Bo's better than this, he really is, I don't know, but he got to prove it well.
I mean, does he have the ability to be better than this?
I would say yes, of course, but I would disagree with the premise that he's better than this because we have now seen two and a half worth, two and a half months worth of football that looks the exact same.
So I think this is just who he is.
Well, if this is it, then we got to rinse and repeat and draft a quarterback.
No, no, no, this was not good enough.
Speaker 3But what I mean by that is that's who he is today, right like, like, can can he improve?
Yeah?
Man, I mean who knows when the leap's gonna come.
And I think that still can't come.
But the immediate future does not look great because we've got two and a half months worth of evidence.
This is who he's been.
Speaker 2Okay, Well, like I told you guys, I want him drafted.
But if he ain't the guy, we can move on.
Speaker 3I don't know.
I mean, that's not what I'm saying.
I mean, if that's how you where you're at.
Speaker 2Right now, that is where that is exactly where I'm at.
Speaker 3Right Well, that's I mean, come on, man, I mean you're riding the wave a little bit too hard.
Speaker 2I mean, hey man, you don't have to twist my arm to put Sidham in there.
If that's what it's going to take.
I just you just can't have three games in a row where you're you got subpark quarterback play.
That sucks, man, Three games in a row after a very mediocre camp?
Yep, what are we doing here?
What are we doing here?
So fine?
Click in, let's see it.
Let's see it.
I got bow on the sideline.
I saw a video of him, you know, mouthing or you know, lip reading.
You know, we had so many chances, like, yeah, you did, you did?
You did have so many chances.
Speaker 3It's just I'm not acting like I'm malone here.
I'm sure every Broncos fan in the world felt the exact same way.
But I literally tweeted it out after after that third best opportunity, settle for three points.
Just tweet it out.
You just know, when you've got a chance to go up by two scores as many chances as they had, it's gonna come back to bite you, no doubt, no doubt.
And of course it came back to bite him.
Of course it did.
It's freaking justin herban.
Of course it did.
Speaker 2As soon as a man raise your hand, How should I do this?
When le Broncos punted with three minutes to go, didn't we all think the same thing?
Didn't we all sit there and be like, well, they're gonna field goal.
Speaker 3I still had hope.
Speaker 2You did, Yeah, you thought they were gonna stop the Chargers?
Speaker 3Then I did.
The defense had been playing pretty well.
I mean, I was nervous don't get me wrong, because I knew that they had their chance to go up by two scores, isn't it.
But I'm just saying I didn't feel like the game was over when you punted it.
Speaker 2Well, surgical precision, Herbert, just ding dong dunk, ding dong, boo boop kick like it was nothing.
Here is it was nothing?
Speaker 6Listen, there's a whole lot.
Let me tell you, give you a little quick story, and then I we'll tell you why.
I'm telling a story.
When I was in high school, my senior year, me and my buddy took hole mick okay, because we had we had a class.
Speaker 2You had to take my senior year as an elective.
Speaker 6You took home as an elected because all the girls take home at Well, let me get the story.
We made a pumpkin pie.
A buddy died.
We were cooking partners.
This pumpkin pie had a crevass in the middle of it that looked like the Grand Canyon right just right down the middle of the thing.
Speaker 3What did we do?
Speaker 6Covered that sucker up whipped cream all over the top to hide the crevass.
Boom, hit it up good.
Last year they won ten games and got to the playoffs.
Was that the whipped cream?
The record?
Speaker 3The whipped cream that that is that hid the crevass that we're talking about now.
Speaker 2The cream made have been that Chiefs game at the end of the year.
Speaker 6Well for some, but they were still one and seven last year against teams with the winning record and two and six and one score games.
They are now with Bonnecks two and eight in one score game games and one in nine against teams above five.
Honey, that's the whip cream.
You still won ten games last year.
But if we're looking deeper and you and you said, I don't know he or Tyler, you know, not a good team or they're in that funky grouping in the middle.
Good teams beat other good teams, Bow and.
Speaker 3Sean, have you had to beat really good teams.
Speaker 6The one win and one and seven last year was the Chiefs when they played nobody Scott.
Speaker 3That was a phenomenal homech.
Speaker 2Thank you dude, that that Chiefs game was a varsity blues whip cream game.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 6So so listen, here's the real We're forgetting the big crack in the pumpkin pie.
Speaker 2Don't forget that.
Speaker 6And we've just covered a oh ten wins and got to the post how they doing that postseason game?
And by the way, that record ain't counting the Buffalo Bill game because that was postseason.
Speaker 2I got you.
Speaker 6We can make it one to ten now against teams above five.
Speaker 2The points of win games and win a championship would just be ok, what's the point around here?
Speaker 5What do we do?
Speaker 2So last year.
Speaker 3It was whin some games?
Get the postseason?
Speaker 2Yeah, last year, let's forget.
Speaker 6Forget we got the worst ranked quarterback in the league as far as throws over ten yards.
Speaker 3Forget that.
Speaker 6You know he led the league and passes below but behind the line of scrimage.
Forget all these things.
Put whipped cream on it.
Speaker 2That was That was last year.
Speaker 6Well whiped creams off And all of a sudden, you say, where's all my punkin pie?
Speaker 3In the middle of no.
Speaker 2Doubt about it, we need that pumpkin pie.
If it's just crevass, it could be either.
Speaker 3I think, So what do you say?
I definitely don't say crevass.
But that sounds so much better, doesn't it sound better?
Speaker 2It depends how big it is.
If it's big, it's.
Speaker 3A punkin pie.
Speaker 2Okay, it's PhD in ninety five.
Thank you to Rally House.
Had a great time there over the weekend.
Actually it was amazing.
Whatever money I made was going out the door.
By the way, it's like, oh look at this, look at that, my wife, my kid.
I'm like, okay, all right.
Speaker 3Did the sun come down in the Rally House?
Speaker 6Well?
Speaker 2Yeah, because he walked like a quarter mile down the street because he lives right there.
Speaker 3What you mean, just around the corner.
Speaker 2There you go, Scott, good one little I got, I got that one, I got that.
I think he walked around because he knew he was getting free gears.
Well, well, mom and dad come visit on parents' weekend.
You're an idiot if you don't do two things, go clothes shopping, go food shopping.
But you're just a moron kid if you don't do those two things when your parents visit for parents weekend.
Speaker 3So did you get you some new SU stuff?
Speaker 2He got some new CU stuff.
Speaker 3Well you didn't, dude.
Speaker 2You know when I saw what was bought, I was like, you know, in my head, the cash register was like, all right, let's stay in the net positive here this weekend.
So no, I got nothing for myself as usual.
Then that mean in his apartment.
He goes, yeah, our apartment's unbelievable.
Wait wait till you see because I'm just hanging out with them.
I'm like, okay, there's like twenty people that came through his apartment, including other moms and dads that they didn't know this.
They came with the girls, and the girls brought their moms and dads.
Speaker 6I'm like, I'm just in awe kind of So you got six or seven different parents.
Speaker 2No, I didn't talk for them.
I mean they like, the girls barely know my kid because they're being dragged along, you know what I'm saying.
Like one girl knows like one kid in my kid's apartment, and then she brings her four friends and they bring their three sets of parents, and it was like, what is going on here?
And all the parents are getting liquored up in my son's apartment, And I'm like, what is happening here?
Speaker 3College?
Speaker 2And I'm realizing college is the greatest thing of all time.
Speaker 3Now you're thinking, why didn't I pick Saturday?
A set of Friday?
Speaker 2It was?
It was it was a man, see you so far is so great?
We see you.
It's been an awesome experience.
And I know you guys, are you know Ceeu, see you, Dad, see you?
Of course, So I'm late to the party here.
But it's it's awesome, it's really cool.
Then you saw Ralphie running out there.
Speaker 3Ralphie was sick, man, Ralphie that that legitimately got my blood pupping.
The second run was even better than the first run of the first.
Rud was fantastic.
Speaker 2Yeah, and the turf no problem for this, Ralphie, no big deal.
Atmosphere seemed to be great.
We didn't go to the game the game that the tickets were like.
It wasn't overly expensive, but the starting time to me was rough.
I can't go to week Tyler's going to it.
I can't even believe you're going to that one.
Speaker 3Yeah, you know, I try to go to at least a handful of games per year.
That's just happened to be one that worked on the schedule.
Speaker 2Well, it's gonna be an interesting one BYU's undefeated.
See you wins thirty seven to twenty.
So they did they were supposed to do.
Prime Prime was in prime mode defending Patch.
Shermer, here we go, You're ready here, Prime defend Patch.
Here we go.
Speaker 7Ain't nobody's talking about pat tonight, you know, and that where where that went?
Speaker 3Anybody?
Anybody give it a week?
Oh, it's gone for a week, for at least a week, right.
Speaker 7Oh, but when we execute it's a beautiful thing.
When we don't, it's gonna be blame assessed.
So and I understand that life.
I've been in this sports world for a long time.
But I'm thankful that you got to see some wonderful plays that he's capable of making.
You got to see some wonderful calls that was made from the top.
You got to see some wonderful execution that was was uh im mint by the offensive line as well as the backs.
They ran their butts off, and I'm proud of them.
Speaker 3I was happy for Kaden salter Man.
Yeah, I mean the game.
You know, Prime's taking a victory lap right there, the score of zero to zero pretty much then of the like, I wasn't looking so hot there for a quick minute.
I had a gal I had to be at the way.
I didn't get out until nine o'clock and I'm checking the score at like nine fifteen and it's zero to zero.
I'm like, what is going on?
Yeah, how have they not scored a single point against Wyoming and then it did explode.
And I mean they they they took control over the game, as they should.
They they won by more than the uh spread was.
The spread was thirteen and a half.
I was so they handled their business.
But uh, maybe let's not take a victory lap after beating Wyoming.
Maybe maybe let's let's take the victory lap after beating BYU.
Speaker 2When when you guys are talking about Shermer, nobody nobody talking about Shumber today.
Huh huh huh.
That is you see, I want Prime to be the coach I do.
That's annoying.
Speaker 3But you hate everybody, the talks and oppressor.
Yeah, you even turned on bow Nick today.
Speaker 2I turn on bow Nicks as he deserved to be turned on.
I'm not turning on Sean Payton.
You don't hear me rip ripping on Sean Payton today.
I thought Sean Payton called good game.
Speaker 3The end.
Speaker 2I don't know what else is.
Speaker 3Sae did rip on his press earlier.
Speaker 2No, he was ripping on like he just got pissed off at like, you know, nine questions about deep balls being thrown and what are you gonna do?
Yeah, I'm not ripping on him.
You know, he can be upset about it.
No, in his decision to kick on that five minutes ago makes sense.
It's a weird one.
Speaker 3Dude.
If you go for it there and you don't get it, you don't get it.
That's a fireball offense.
Speaker 2You're right, you are corrector no doubt about it.
It's just one of them.
Hindsight is twenty twenty sort of moments.
No, I like Sean, I like the game plan.
Speaker 3Hey, you know what killed the Broncos like they all killed him?
Gosh, how much time is on the clock when you had the ball in like the four or five yard line?
It was in the fourth quarter, you know?
Was that the right at the very beginning of the fourth quarter?
Speaker 6Yeah, yeah, like when they were like nine to eleven, Yeah, something like that.
Speaker 3You got a cord made a nice first time.
I mean, it's one thing to miss an overthrow, it's another thing to miss two or three overthrow.
But when you got the ball inside the five yard line, all you got to do is punch this sucker in and you can't pull that off.
That's a defeating feelings as an offense.
Speaker 2I'm looking are you talking about the first the fourth quarter.
Speaker 6Yeah, but they got their last field goal, wasn't it.
Yeah, yeah, we had the ball inside the five.
Speaker 2Yeah, I'm looking at it.
It's yeah yeah, one yard run first and goal at the five right, ten yard penalty.
Yep, that's what happened.
And that was do you know what it was?
It was for pass interference.
Speaker 3On Okay, okay, I remember, okay, Now I remember the series better.
Yeah, thank you.
So that definitely was a pick.
You can't actually block the guy.
He tried to actually block the guy, right, But then that ball was not designed to go to Troy because it was designed to go to Courtland, who he was setting the pick for.
Bo actually did a really good job on that play of reading it through right, Like he knew the pick was sep for Cortland.
He saw both guys taking me, He's all right, well, I guess I'll throw it to Troy.
Troy didn't even think that he was going to be an option on the route.
That's what happened there.
He literally didn't think he was an option to have the ball thrown to him.
Speaker 2Yeah, and but that screwed you up for the rest of the drive.
Then both scrambled for a six yard run and then it's third and goal from the eight yard line.
I mean, not impossible.
And it was an incomplete pass to Troy Franklin.
And you're, yeah, I see what you're I mean, first and goal at the five.
Yeah, Like, let's this is not complicated.
We're gonna run the ball like two three times and get a touchdown or whatever, something easy.
We're getting offensive pass interference calls when the ball's in the five down.
Well, they did run the ball on first down and they only got a yard, so the the the the the pass interference was second in goal at the four.
But still you get an offensive pass interference call second and four from the four.
That's not a run.
I'll give you that.
How about that.
That's a little Sean sort of moment there, like, hey, we're overthinking things here.
Speaker 3How would you grade the offensive lineup without going back here?
No, I'm going to do the film tonight, so I'll break down the all twenty two so I've only watched it in real time, but this definitely felt like the worst performance of the season from no line.
I did see Mike mcglinch he got beat a couple times in pass protection, but there were some lanes of the running game there were they didn't run the ball all too often.
I don't think it was a disastrous performance, but I would say it was probably the worst of the season.
I'll break it down tonight, though I'll give you a better breakdown tomorrow.
Speaker 2How do I just not root against Prime because I don't want to root against the bus but he bugs me with some of the stuff he says.
How do I manage that?
Speaker 3Except that he's Deion Sanders.
Speaker 2And just be shrug your shoulders and just don't even worry about it.
Don't listen to it.
It's not that hard, all right, I got a couple more things.
Speaker 6Well listen, Yeah, well, they say you can't change the leopard spots.
Speaker 3I mean, he's a lie.
Speaker 2I know I should just there's somebody up there and Boulder like, are you glad he's the coach?
And I'm like, yes, I'm glad he's the coach because he bugs me.
But yes, I'm glad he's the coach because look at look at what's going on with CU.
For the it's been awesome.
It really has been awesome.
It's awesome.
But but just like bo here in his second year, like with prime in the third year.
We we do expect the bar to be raised for all this stuff, right like you know.
Speaker 3I don't know about raised, but I mean you expected this year.
My expectation for this year was just make a bowl game.
And that's pretty scary.
Speaker 2Right now, you gotta figure out four more.
Yeah, I'm gonna be tough this weekend.
I'll tell you that I know, and then after that, what it?
How's my memory?
TCU?
They're all kind of hard.
Speaker 3Let's text to Tech on your schedule.
They're all sudden surprised.
Speaker 2About Tech had a big win this weekend Atah and you got Utah.
I think you got Tech and Utah and Arizona State they beat Baylor in a walk off.
Speaker 3I don't know.
Speaker 2Maybe Arizona sucks.
Who knows we did?
Speaker 3We've got Tech on it.
Speaker 2I think so, oh, we don't know.
My bad?
We got TCU, Sorry my bad.
Okay, Iowa State, that's what it is.
Iowa States ranked.
Utah is not ranked, but they're always to You.
Speaker 3Got three straight ranked opponents coming up.
You got BYU, you got TCU that you got ioways tape.
Speaker 2Look at that, oh boy, and then you got that.
Speaker 3Utah who you know it's it's still Utah.
They were ranked last week, right, look at that being ranked and not ranked.
Speaker 2This is a scary ass schedule coming.
Speaker 3Up for you got a month straight of brutal football.
Speaker 2Brutal and then I don't know is there.
I don't even know how Arizona is this year West Virginia in West Virginia.
That's no, that's not gonna be easy.
Speaker 3Him forty one to ten at at West Virginia, didn't they?
Speaker 2Oh?
Is that right?
Speaker 3All right?
Speaker 2Well good, yes, Arizona State's not going to be easy, and I don't know none of these games are going to be easy.
Well, what what is the what's where are your four wins?
Tyler?
Speaker 3I mean I just told you I was scared, didn't I?
Yeah?
Speaker 2Where are they?
Speaker 3I just told you I was scared.
Speaker 6So look at that schedule.
What do you put the over and I'll put the over and under four?
What are you taking four when it's totals?
Speaker 3Oh?
Speaker 2Oh on the whole year?
Speaker 3Yeah?
Speaker 2Where are your two wins?
Speaker 3I'm just saying, I don't know.
Speaker 2I don't know, bro, Like, where are your two wins on that schedule?
Home against Arizona?
Okay, there's one.
I'll give you that.
What's your next one, baby, West Virginia.
Speaker 3I mean, I think you've got four games the end of the year.
You'll win a couple of those you got, I'd be put the bottom.
Mindes, if you want to be a bowl team, you're gonna have to beat a ranked team or two.
You're gonna have to be by U, TCU, Iowa State or Utah.
Just win your home games b B YU and Iowa State.
Speaker 2But hey, Pat Shermer, nobody's talking about Pat Simmer this week right.
See this is where I get my prime thing here is about Saltz getting a wake up call.
Speaker 8You were looking for consistency and leadership out of that position.
Did he almost kind of need the wake up call the last couple of weeks to get it together.
Speaker 7Well, I'm not gonna say what a man needs.
I'm all i'm gonna say is everybody in that locker room, including me, we're accountable to one another, and sometimes you gotta hold people accountable.
Boy was transparing.
You know you guys aren't in there.
Man, You guys don't you do a good job reporting.
I'm not I'm not underestimating that, but sometimes you just don't know what's going on.
Speaker 2Oh man, and all right, I'll leave it there.
So Salt Salter is doing stuff behind the scenes that Prime didn't like.
He must have been screwing up doing something.
Speaker 3Well, I think what he's saying is he probably just didn't know the offense as well as he needed to.
Speaker 2There you go, he wasn't prepared.
Speaker 3I didn't necessarily hear it like he's doing something naughty, like he's he's not showing up to meetings or something like that.
Speaker 2He something the code for there, Assalter wasn't prepared is the way he should be, one way or the other.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 2I'm not saying there's anything nefarious going on, but he was and ready he wasn't.
Maybe he was taking things for granted, who knows.
All right, I have one last Prime thing and that'll be it.
He's with the Kelsey brothers.
You ready to hear the explanation why they turned down the Ravens.
And it wasn't just the Ravens.
He broke news the Eagles apparently were interested in Shader.
Yeah, but here here is Prime explaining why he didn't go to the Ravens.
Speaker 8Have you been keeping up with shitor in Cleveland.
What's the best piece of advice you've given him as a dad and as a coach.
Speaker 7Be patient and be ready.
You got to be ready when it's tap.
But when it's time, you gonna know.
And it's coming up.
Speaker 3There we go.
Speaker 7You know, I got a prediction.
Speaker 3Ain't no better.
Speaker 7I got a feeling when it's gonna go down.
Speaker 8But it's it's gonna happen, all right.
Speaker 3Yeah, he can get a shot.
Speaker 8And that's all you can ask for, is a player.
All you can ask for is the opportunity.
Right it is because this is all over the media.
Because I know y'all keep it a buck.
That's my love, y'all to life.
Yes, they made a big deal out of Philly called us on draft day.
Speaker 3Okay, they didn't mention that.
I just let it get out of the bag.
I didn't know that.
Speaker 9Yeah, okay, who was it?
Baltimore in the Browns?
They forget I know I played for Baltimore, So me and Izia cool.
So he understood that whole conversation, and he wanted to talk to Shador as well as you want to talk.
Speaker 7To me, and I put you on the phone in your door.
I don't want to say how it went.
But how in the world can somebody fault him for saying or thinking?
Why in the world would I go back up Lamar.
Speaker 3For ten more years?
Speaker 7For sure, I've never said on the bench and said, well I learned a lot today.
Speaker 2All right.
I'll laugh at that too, because I actually believe that.
I don't believe in learning by osmosis.
I think you gotta play.
I just think you know.
Speaker 3Tough for cruity pitch though, when you're head coaching at a college like, hey, come here, I'm gonna said you because it said your best interest ju Ju Lewis is gonna pull that quote up here.
Speaker 2Yeah, that's that's a good point.
And I'd make the argument ten years.
I mean, you'd stay there and do the best you can and see if you can't move on or you never know what's gonna happen.
Speaker 3I you know, I'm on an island on this one.
But hey, if you've got the ability to still control your destiny in the fifth round, which is an insane thought, I think they did the right thing.
I do.
Now, now you can make the argument, who wants to go to the Browns?
Right and right?
You know it's an unstable situation.
But I firmly do agree that if I had the ability, in the belief in myself, which I probably would not if I made it to the fifth rounder.
But if I still had that type of belief in myself that I was worthy of being a starter, I'd rather be in a situation I could start.
Speaker 2Also, all right, maybe it's just you know, listen, I get it.
Prime was a first round guy.
He was an all everything guy.
Maybe he just doesn't understand, like in the fifth round, the odds are so crazily stacked against you, you know they He probably thought he was gonna go there and easily beat out Dylan Gabriel.
At worst be the backup to Joe Flacco, who is gonna melt down and not be around.
Yeah, and Prime things, that's still gonna hap up in this year.
Speaker 3Or you go to Baltimore or you go to the Eagles, and it's guaranteed your backup for the next four years, guaranteed.
Speaker 2Better to be a backup than the third string guy.
That's an interesting but.
Speaker 3That's not how you're looking at it.
I mean, you don't go to the Browns because you think you're gonna be third Now, I get it.
Hindsight twenty twenty.
Right, But at the time you're looking at it like, which is gonna give me a better chance to get on the field.
I know for a fact I've had zero chance in Baltimore with the Eagles.
Well, I think what you just said is right.
I think he looks at it up.
I'll beat out Gabriel.
Speaker 6Right, And even if Flacke gets the start, he dankle the last year, and if he does, he ain't back next year.
Speaker 2I'm the guy, right.
Speaker 3It's not bad location, Their defense is nice.
Speaker 2It's just a little naive to think that you're gonna just easily beat out a guy they took in the third round.
The guy in the third round is just gonna be giving more allowance than you because where he was drafted.
But hey, you're betting on yourself.
I can't hate on a guy who's betting on himself to you know, beat out Dylan Gabriel.
But how about the win the Browns got yesterday?
Speaker 3Right?
Speaker 2Like, who would have ever seen that coming?
And Joe Flacco what were his numbers?
What do you think his numbers were?
For good old Joe Flacco?
Uh?
Nothing special?
Twenty one of thirty six for one hundred and forty two yards three point nine per row, no touchdowns and interception, a quarterback rating of fifty five point six a QBR forty point five.
That's about as mediocre as you can get.
Speaker 3Well, it's also kind of funny Dion saying, you know, I know what's gonna happen.
I've got a prediction.
In other words, I know how bad my son's team's gonna be.
I've looked at the skeedule like folks, and I've broken it down.
Flacco's gonna lose six games by this point.
Right, you're you're right, That's what I'm saying.
Yeah, Brown suck Kelsey brothers, But.
Speaker 2What do you what do you think they're gonna do?
In a way, we go, all right, no dumb questions three or three, five of four ninety two five it's PhD on ninety two five.
All right, I got one for you guys to kick it off, and then we'll have audio of Michael Malone that's just coming out.
That's kind of interesting as soon as you get that, Dan, you didn't even do that.
No dumb questions.
First one here, how did you feel about Gabe Landeskog getting in a fight yesterday.
Speaker 7Ain't nobody's talking about pet No Lipkin has it stolen away by magne Hill, work it across center ice and now we got a fight.
Speaker 2Lipkin going with Landiscock.
Speaker 10Landiscock says, don't you dare hit the best defenseman on planet Earth?
Speaker 2The Norse got of hockey.
Speaker 10Landiscock in a tussle with Lipkin, right by Landiskock, quite by Landiskock.
Wonder cut by Landiskock down to the ice, Cog Lipkin liftgen Sack coming from a mile away.
And when you see a Swedish great train and you're tied to the tracks, you know what the end story is gonna be.
Speaker 2Oh, Connor, it's great to have hockey back on ninety two five.
And graduation to our buddy Raj for being part of that broadcast.
I haven't heard news about his kid yet, but we wish him the best.
My question those centers are preseason hockey and fights.
First of all, I didn't like the elbow to cal McCart and I do think there had to be an answer for that.
I actually agree with that, and I have no problems with the fights, and I have no problems with gay fighting.
Here's My problem this is all happening in preseason and in a relatively meaningless afternoon of hockey where the Utah playing because they were traveling that day was late and the game got pushed back early in the afternoon and impacted just the whole flow of everything yesterday.
So my beef isn't with gay fighting or fighting or anything like that.
My beef is what are we doing here in preseason that any of this is happening.
So my my real feeling, I guess it is just get rid of all right?
My question is should they get rid of preseason games in basketball the NHL?
What's the point?
Then?
Speaker 3You gotta play a little bit?
Speaker 4You do?
Speaker 3Did you not just say just literally.
Speaker 2Right?
Speaker 6I always say you can't give it ain't better unless you play good brand to play play in the preseason.
Speaker 3They gotta play.
Speaker 2You can scrimmage against yourself and you can get in shape and just play hockey.
You gotta play games, maloney, do you think any of these people should do or get better?
Not just football?
Football is different?
Speaker 3Oh god?
What why?
Speaker 2Because in football you literally don't play, and hockey not only does everybody play that's on the team, but they've got a minor league system.
So if you're not on the team, you're in grand so what you're at least playing not a grand Rabbit right now.
No, No, My point is there's always a place to play in hockey and basketball, not in football.
Speaker 3Listen, preseason is a blink of an eye.
It's literally a blink of an eye.
I don't think that they're gonna die for playing a little bit of preseason.
I don't they need to play ten games or eight games.
Speaker 6No, do they need to play, Yes, especially game Landskog.
I think Gave wants to get out there.
And one of the things that's been missing.
Here's my biggest takeaway on the biggest thing that was missing from this team and Dan listened from the AVS team last year, was we're gonna take shots in my car and there ain't no retribution.
Speaker 3Lando Scott Landis Scott was doing that when he was healthy.
He came back.
Speaker 6So I don't care if it's preseason.
You're gonna hit my All Star, my All World, my Calder Cup winner or whatever the best defenseman trophy is, you're gonna hit him.
I'm popping in the mouth, and not only when I'm popping in the mouth.
I'm gonna send you to the ice.
I absolutely love it.
No, there don't need to be ten games, but they need to play and basketball.
I'm telling you, I've been a thousand I've been in a thousand practices.
It's never the same.
Everybody in practice knows what you're gonna do.
You go at the speed to get by, and then the games happen.
And you know what you do when you don't play in preseason, You start the season eleven and ten and then then you lose.
Speaker 3All right, that's what I say.
Speaker 2Hey, Oh, the Nuggets had preseason games last year and still started eleven and ten.
If that's where you're.
Speaker 6They also went to Dubai or wherever they went.
Speaker 3I forget where they were.
Where did they go?
Yeah, yeah, they went on a vacation and erupted everything.
Speaker 2I mean, so you're you're you're cool.
That's some sort of dude that who knows if will ever really play in the NHL is on the eyes with cal mccarr throwing elbows at his face because the only situation that would happen is a preseason game.
Speaker 3Oh you can't help dirty.
Speaker 2That's a great moment right there.
I mean, I I agree, gave somebody had to fight the dude, No doubt you can't do that.
The guy threw a cheap shot of kill, and so you know, game took care of business.
Speaker 3Hockey guys are good to hockey guy.
I like it.
Speaker 2Yeah, I don't have a problem with it either.
I just have a problem with being in preseason is all.
That's all.
The rest of it's, you know whatever, it's hockey.
Speaker 3I want you know what.
Speaker 6Someone told me a long time ago about coaching.
Better to start hard and get softer than to start soft.
Speaker 3And try to get hard.
Speaker 6And I think that's I think that's with playing pro sports.
Better to come out big, strong, physical, nasty, hard, then to come out and be missed it for that.
Speaker 2Do I hear the Malone stuff or do you want to wait on that?
Are you curious about the alone stuff?
Speaker 3Yeah?
Speaker 2All right, here's Michael Malone saying he wants his pound of flesh.
Speaker 1All right, Mike, do you have a chance here to become a big star in TV?
Speaker 2Would that be okay for you?
Or are you thinking at some point you'd like to get back into coaching.
Speaker 11In my heart, Frank, I'm a coach.
I'm the son of a coach.
It's kept me something I'd love to get back in.
I still have a bad face in my mouth with how things ended in Denver, and I'd love to go out of my own terms.
With that being said, what I've learned over my many years in this league is how important it is to go to work every day with people you care about, you trust, your respect, and that are all pulling in the same direction.
So when I have a chance to go back into the NBA, I just want to make sure I'm working with a group of people that are like minded and here a common vision and are willing to do whatever it takes to make that vision become a reality.
And if that situation pops up, I would love to get back on that sideline.
I'm a competitor, I'm a teacher, and I am a coach first and foremost TV star second.
Speaker 3So that felt awfully generalized, Like like it felt, it felt really big a group of people that were going to be on the same page.
But I mean, was he really not just talking about one guy?
Was he really not just talking about Calvin?
He was talking about Calvin and his minions?
Speaker 2Okay, well, hey, the guy got fired.
He's gonna have some beefs, no doubt about it.
Anybody.
Speaker 3Yes, he had a toxic situation.
It was I mean whether it was on Blow's fall or whether it was Calvin's fault, I don't know.
I mean probably on both of them, right, But that was not a He's actually not wrong.
Could Calvin say the same exact thing, same things if they oh.
Speaker 2They weren't going in the same direction.
Speaker 3Don't you think it matters who was there first?
Like I think it does.
I think the fact that Calvin got their second means you were more or less.
I'm not saying you worked for Michael Malone, but you were there to support Michael Malone.
Now, if the GM hires the coach, maybe it's a little bit different.
But I think the way it was here, Calvin should have been there to support Michael Malone's vision.
That's the way I well, I think that's what he thought.
And but there's different ways to do it.
Speaker 6You do it through communication and talk and conversation, you know, professional disagreement if you can, but it's got to stay in that way and obviously a toxic and these guys are in human conversation.
That wasn't a professional disagreements.
I mean, wouldn't that be your interpretation?
The denler say, well, I really don't like I don't know.
Man, Well let's get back because I still like time.
But here's why I don't think that I go.
Speaker 2This is my stance.
Speaker 3This is my stance, and the OK Corral was in the middle.
Speaker 6The problem was there was a gatling gun in the middle of the OK Corral and they both got I both got knocked out.
Speaker 2And we come back.
The big question of the day is a no dumb question, and we have not talked about it with the Broncos game.
We'll get to it next