Welcome to Bodegga Box Office.

It's a podcast about rap movies.

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Rap movies?

Movies that areritten by broduce by director buyers, sng Rapper and the Rap Game Day Sherman Out of the Rap Game?

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We watched Kylie Minogue in a movie?

You?

This is what happens when I travel and I don't have time to investigate your impetuous decision.

I knew, I knew you were gonna hate this.

It's actually fantastic.

I'm not sure if it's good fodder for the pod, but at the very least, like any movie that I didn't suggest, I tried to knock the music out.

Of the Yeah, well you did, and I think you you'll probably make me pay for this on the you know, on the back end by watching what the Dirtiest rap movie of All time?

Next?

I've been on a Kylie Minogue kick for forever basically, but like but lately especially, and my first suggestion was Biodome, which you roundly rejected.

Said no, thank you.

Why do you hate biodome, Anthony?

No?

I thought that I just didn't understand the point of doing a whole movie about a cameo, particularly if it's not a rapper.

And then it didn't occur.

To me too.

I was like, oh, she's fourth in this, and it didn't occur to me to be like, well, she's fourth, but it's all like scene by scene.

How were we supposed to know?

You know, like this one.

I thought she was way more involved in this movie, also just a soup the same assumption you made she was.

Signing dificant in the plot.

I will grant you that.

I around the hour twenty mark, I just started fuming, thinking we could be watching Street Fight of the movie incredible rap soundtrack, we could be watching an episode of Neighbors that's on YouTube, and I could be talking fucking soap opera deep lore like why this?

And then at the very least I was like, well, at least she's like the second most significant character.

Yeah, we watched Holy Motors from the year is it twenty twelve?

Yes?

Probably, this is probably the most credible movie we've ever watched.

Maybe for this podcast, like critically like acclaimed, which means we have no business talking about it, like whatsoever.

This couldn't be farther from our thesis statement.

I think yeah, it's yeah, Leo Cracks.

I don't even know how to say his fucking name, right, so you know, Leo's Leo whatever.

This was on like the top of like everyone's list year.

It came out twenty twelve.

It's like best film of the year, Palm door.

It can uh did pretty well.

It's in French and Anthony watched it.

I just I did get I'd got a lot of mileage out of like thinking about you watching it.

It was great.

I if I was not traveling, I probably would have shut it down.

But also if I was not traveling and didn't shoot it down, I would have watched it five times and found a new fascinating angle every single time.

Instead, I got about one and a half viewings in and then eight thirty came around.

Are Yeah, I limped into one viewing, like barely.

I fell asleep the first time I watched it because we've been dealing with fussy baby, and and then I finished it right before dinner tonight.

Nice.

I mean I did really like it, like, oh it was splendid, Yeah, really fucking cool.

I mean, should we tell people what it's about?

Maybe not what it's about, maybe what happens it is might be good.

It's an art film about what if Hogan the limo driver was a sexy French grandma.

No, not Hogan.

Oh damn, that's a good man.

Hogan was a guy.

I don't know how we got Hogan.

You and Clint I think needed a ride back to Queens in like two thousand and seven, because before I lived here, I had heard of Hogan.

Yeah, we had Hogan.

He was That's what it was.

He was just kind of sitting in front of a limo and.

We like a beat up like an old spiel limo, like a limo from a two short video.

Yeah, and they're like, hey, you give us ride back to Queens.

He said, yep.

It was fifty bucks and there was like seven of us.

Even then we like that was fine, you know, we didn't have any money, but they were like, all right, this is great.

And he would drive us all back to Queens.

Let us hit the bodega, buy like beers, and he had a tambourine that he shook while he drove, and he would play like I just remember Peter Gabriel sledgehammer.

Yeah, so goddamn loud.

I heard jungle Boogie once and it turned out to be a family of brothers that shared this business and they didn't all care for each other.

I don't remember that part.

They had beef.

Well, because we asked, like the third or fourth time that I did it with you, we asked about a previous installment, and he's like, that wasn't me.

That must have been Tomahogan.

That was Bill Hogan.

That guy's a fuck eerl.

Oh fucking.

That's like the bat the like Russian Turkish baths in East Village, the two that has two owners and they hate each other.

Yeah, so they alternate weeks where like one week you have a totally different way of paying the other week.

And there's a website that literally said is it a Boris Week or a Pall Week?

And it's just like this big big bowl, like single color.

It just says Boris, so you know, like who to pay this week.

It's so funny.

I will say Billy Mark's West might have had two feuding brothers running it, but at least they operated at the bar the same.

Way, Billy and Mark.

Which one was the deviant horrible one?

Oh, I believe it was Billy, Okay, I believe it was Billy.

He was probably working the night that guy got stabbed to death?

Is that why it's shut down or.

Is it shut down like eight months after the stabbing.

But the stabbing certainly didn't didn't help.

Didn't help?

What a what an awful bar?

Like, you know you're in good hands when they like every beer is a is a bottle because this is they're just like taps.

Oh you got a clean nose?

Oh no, it's great.

Anyway, Yeah, Hogan, what a time?

Yeah, Okay.

The actual plot is essentially a guy who appears to be some sort of an actor and like an ardy dystopian future, is overworked and you watch him go on like nine different acting gigs, but a few of them are very hazy as to whether they're acting gigs or his personal life, or whether the personal life blurs into the acting gigs.

Yeah, so there's more questions than answers, even for a smarter person who watches it multiple times.

And it suggested that there's like other actors like out doing the same thing.

Yeah, and you're actually like, your Hogan thing is kind of apt because I read a little bit about like what inspired this, and big Leo was like, man, limos are funny, Basically, he's like, limos are a funny thing that like, we it's funny that we still use them because they used to be this like futurist aspirational thing, but they're they're almost like kind of a relic when things were big for no reason.

And then he started thinking, Wow, there's even a line in the movie where he's like, the cameras used to be bigger and heavier than us.

Now everybody has a camera, and now you can't see the camera.

So he was like, that's what he that's what he got inspired by it, like he saw he saw Hogan.

Basically, I was like, look at that guy.

That's funny.

That was like fifteen years ago, so now we look like.

I saw a Limo randomly in the West Village a month ago, and it was like seeing a Dodo walking around.

It was like, holy shit, a fucking weird, like minor stretch like it had like it was twice as long as a regular car.

It's just like who is this for?

So it wasn't even like a full stretch.

It's like kind of like, wow, that car looks a little long.

Yeah.

I think I've probably seen five stretch Hommers since the last time I saw a regular limo.

Yeah, fucking stretch hommer with such a weird flex.

I think.

I I feel like somebody I don't know wasn't my group, but somebody I know took one to Promus.

Of course you take one to prom Did you go to prom did not?

Did not?

You were or are you doing?

Just making your people?

Didn't steal the sturgeon eggs or whatever.

No, just general deviance and alcoholism and re for smoking, you know.

Yeah, yeah, a tale as old as time.

I was wearing a cumber bund.

Though comically I do have friends visiting this weekend, and part of their itinerary farther here is like, you gotta go see the weird sturgeon park because nobody in New York knows what a sturgeon is, but we have protected them with walk.

The Sacred Order of Sturgeon Protectors.

Yeah, it's like when two cops see each other and give each other the nod thank you for your service.

Two GEP owners.

Is that really a thing?

There's a sturgeon park.

Yeah, it's called the Science Playground.

For those who do not ever go to the West Side of Manhattan, there's this weird land grab.

It's comparable to like Golden Gate Park in San Francisco, where Mayor Bloomberg, as part of his weird like real estate development on the West Side plan, just basically bought up a bunch of land for like a public private partnership where they use private security guards and all this shit.

But in theory it's public until they decide it's not.

They've already started making a couple buildings private, and one of the things that they're really into is having already playgrounds.

So because sturgeon are one of the natural fish that occur in the Hudson River, they made this huge pair of sturgeon.

They're like, I don't know, one hundred and fifty feet long or something, and the slide goes out of the asshole and then you can like climb all the way up into the mouth.

And it's like super dangerous because they didn't think about like how children play, or like the fact that kids could just jump off the top of like a thirty five foot sturgeon onto like safety surface.

So all you see is like kids walking around like bumped and bruised and crying and confused.

Park claims another victim.

Yeah, and they opened it right next to an existing park that already didn't really have enough bathroom infrastructure, and now this is just where all to like European tourists and like dads who have the kid for one hour Saturday morning, I'll go.

So it's always feast or famine and there's like no shade or anything.

So it's just hot as balls.

It's weird, and your buddy's coming.

And that was like on his list.

No, that was on my list.

I was like, you came to three different installments of Anthony's New York and each one has been wildly different.

And now they've opened up a weird sturgeon playground and everyone that I know has heard this story about the sturgeon, to the point where my poor wife just wanders away and it's like, tell your weird fish smoking weed story.

So I was like, yeah, you got kids, I know they have to be as dangerous as their father is.

Let's take them to the fucking sturgeon playground.

We got Sturgeon Playground and then Staten Island on the itinerary.

Yeah, what a friend you are?

What what else are you going to take them to?

Do?

You know, like, let's go drive to New Jersey.

Is that like, now we're going to do the fucking the what's the Transit Museum in Brooklyn?

The best cheap interesting that's closing.

That would not surprise me because it's technically paid for by the MTA.

Uh And there's nothing a neoliberal governor likes more than taking money from transit, giving it to cops and ski lodges.

And got a cut corner somewhere.

Yeah, then after that we may do Coney Island.

The other thing they want to do the Intrepid.

Oh too bad.

So yeah, actually the kids will love that ship.

Also, it's annoying to get to, but we're on the west side, so it's like pretty sure.

Yeah.

So when I was working for Nike, I saw them play a soccer tournament on the deck of the Intrepid.

Interesting, it was cool looking, Yeah.

You know, made for some nice photos.

All right, Well, that sounds not as bad as I thought it would.

So Holy motors, Holy motors, Holy motors.

Yeah, I really liked it.

Let's say, let's just keep saying that.

Yeah.

Yeah, I didn't get my I mean I didn't get any notes down.

I just didn't.

Well those are the options you can take.

No notes or you can take two hundred notes that now look like nonsense.

Yeah, his wallpaper becomes more of a forest when he closely examines it.

What the fuck does that mean?

That was a good note?

A much larger dog walks down the aisle below.

Another dog trails closely behind, just out of focus.

Mikhail Gorbachev might be there.

I just a guy with a weinstain?

Sorry?

Does that does that mean to the people with win stains?

There's like another guy with one, and I just did you.

I didn't actually know that are called port Weinstein until I looked at the Wikipedia page for port Weinstein.

Oh yeah, Oh so you were also googling during.

This, Yes, yeah, that's actually how I found out that this was a movie about an actor.

I thought the first like three scenes were like a Gladio kind of thing.

What's a Gladio operation?

So that's going around Twitter now like abundance this word.

Everybody decided they like know now and like now Gladio.

Is that Gladio has been a thing.

Yeah, but it's like it's in the conversation now because I've seen it a couple of times.

So Operation Gladio was basically the pre NATO thing where after World War Two, the Nazis that didn't go to America or to Argentina sat around and basically said, like, we are now de notified as much as anyone can be, and we are going to work with the United States and England to sort of suppress leftism and also destabilized society and weird ways that makes people believe that we need more security.

So there was like an assassination of an Italian politician.

There was a series of murders in Brussels.

There's some really good BBC documentaries about it from like the nineties that the American government sued the BBC and this director over h Yeah, but it's basically the long and short of it.

Oh was it our guy from Biggie and Tupac.

No, it's more like a hypernormalization kind of thing.

Yeah, that's something I've heard of and I understand kind of.

Yeah, you should watch Hypernormalization.

It's a who I know, I know, there's a lot of things I should be doing.

And here we are talking sturgeon assholes.

Yeah, so much better.

But I think that there's something may the movie stands up to that kind of reading.

Yeah, No, I made it to like the like up through the part where the guy's like eating the flowers and kidnaps the uh the I was like, oh, yeah, no, this is totally Gladio.

And then I literally opened it up to like search and actor or something, and then I see, like, oh, I've totally misunderstood with this movie.

I don't think you did.

I think I think you that's I think that's because I had a similar thought that like like it was not like a government you know, you know whatever the stabilization thought it was, but it was more like, yeah, there's always something in need of, like a push is kind of what I how I took it is that like there's there's always something stagnating, and like this guy is there to sort of like kick the dam open and like cause chaos in a way to like unstuck, unstick the world or whatever.

And that doesn't also really hold up, but like there's some moments that like you imagine that maybe even Mendez got something out of her experience with him, or that like Kylie Minogue's character was stuck before spoilers for Holy Holy Motors before, like he got her unstuck with that getting her unstuck meant meant that she killed herself, Like I don't know, that's That's kind of where I was taking it, was that like he's there too to push society.

This is a very strange movie to talk about because you're always at risk of like being one of those dufses that has like a Twin Peaks podcast where you just like air high five because you know who the log lady is or whatever.

Yeah, I think Sean said is like professional noticers, you know, like and like, damn, that's a that's a brutal read.

But like, yeah, I mean, of course, but what are we gonna do.

We're we watched a French movie for our podcas shit, god damn it.

Ava Mendez I met, had a nice, nice lunch with her.

Not I was at a luncheon that she.

Was at the same luncheon or like adjacent lunches.

No.

When I worked at at Atlantic, Uh, this woman who would we would buy advertising still like print ads in Rolling Stone and US Weekly.

And Rolling Stone and US Weekly shared an office and they would invite us down for these luncheons where celebrities have come through.

It's how I met ludicrous and horrified him.

Anyway, the Ava Mendez one was like definitely a lesser one, but she was really nice.

And then soon after she left the public eye because of I think it was exhaustion and amphetamine overuse.

H yeah, anyway, but she's okay now, yeah, so Mende is in this.

That character is a reprise of a character from Tokyo, Yes, an anthology movie which I actually did see.

So I kind of was like, had this vague, hazy like IFC channel in like two thousand and four Stoned I think at two sixteen eight.

Oh wow, yeah, where I was like I kind of recognize this man like crawling out of a man hole.

Yeah, anyway, so you know there's that it's part of a shit extended universe.

Yeah, because it was like this guy what is it Carrocks and then uh, Michelle Gondry and somebody else presumably right.

Oh yeah, and then I think it was like the Cohen's.

Okay, I was gonna say, they never do one of those, but just two, Like you can make four rooms, you can't make two rooms.

Yeah, and then one of them has to be bad, like that's the rule.

Yes, yeah, all be good.

They're never all good.

If you do know of an anthology where every single instance, is good from the hood.

Oh that's true.

Yeah, and actually no, Cosmic Slap is mostly bad, except for the one where all the aliens Aliens come to Earth and they say, we'll fix all your problems if you give us all your black people, and the one black dude in like the President's cabinet, the whole cabinet's like, yeah, obviously we're going to do this, and the one black dude in the cabinet is like, well, hold on a minute.

But it's played like seriously, it's really funny, like the yeah, George Clinton's anthology movie Cosmic Slap.

So.

Yeah, but I guess what the movie is really trying to tell you is that this guy is an actor and that he is showing up two different gigs.

Yeah, it's the simplest read of.

It, and it's got sort of that like David Foster Wallace like what is entertainment?

How does one consume.

It in the future, Like like there's a lot of Is that what he's about?

That his thing?

Well?

Did you it's I mean, I read White Guy Discusses David Foster Wallace is a podcast ground that has any.

Everyone stopped listen, like, don't.

Worry yeah, no, he basically invented like Netflix, but in a book he wrote in like nineteen ninety six.

Okay, yeah, everybody says that about what's his name, old technomancer, fucking guy William Gibson, Oh word, yeah, yeah, same thing, snow crashed old boy too from Minnesota Stevenson.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, that checks out.

I mean I guess that that's a little bit more boring, is that, like he's an actor doing acting things like that doesn't really do anything for me.

I do like the idea of like we're talking about the idea of the way that we change ourselves all the time depending on where we're going and what we're doing and who we're doing it with, which is something that you wouldn't understand, Anthony.

Because I don't do anything.

You don't do well because you don't change yourself.

You show up as yourself everywhere you go.

Yeah.

I stuck the landing perfect on day one, right.

Perfect is what some would say, some many are saying.

Everybody's saying it.

It's perfect.

Much like our protagonist, I do all of my own clothing, can make up.

Yeah, you like smoke a jay, crush a little sushi.

But that is like that is sort of One of the aspects of this that I thought was interesting is it is vaguely dystopian, even though they don't really touch on it.

And the idea that you're inside this like weird cavernous limo, but you've got like a nineteen forties Broadway makeup mirror and you're kind of like rubber makeup to look like a weird flower hungry streeter chin.

Like that was like it's an interesting angle of like what all these people do with their day, Like Selene's job seems fucking exhausting, like propping up this pathetic acting guy that can't even get invited back to the forest for fock's sake.

Oh you really wanted to go to the forest, it's all he wants to see forest work.

Yeah.

I did think it was really funny that he put on his like urchin nails and then had dinner, yes, like eating with his weird fingers.

Uh yeah, and I guess uh Selene's driver.

There's a lot of also, Like another reason we're ill equipped to talk about this is that there's tons of references to like other shit in this besides the ones we know, like Godzilla, but like there's like other French films, I guess, or eyes without a Face.

I guess.

I don't know.

If I don't know, if you outside of Billy Idol's reference, that's the Celene the driver and that's why she puts on that mask, I guess that's an eyes without a face thing.

But I haven't seen it.

Anthony hasn't seen it.

What are we even talking about.

But it's supposed to like, it's supposed to stimulate your you know, stimulate you in a lot of different ways as opposed to just like a straight ahead like plot.

And while I only watched seventy percent of it on the second viewing, I will say that it felt like a good movie based on the fact that once you understand the framework within which this movie operates, certain mysteries like slap yourself on the head, like oh shit, I totally get it now, and nothing seemed bullshit right, okay, there's no I mean like, there's certain movies like this.

For the first time you're like, oh, it was just zany and unpredictable enough to surprise you, and then the second time you're like, aah, but what about this and what about this?

Where instead like the beginning seeming really strange, like where he wakes up when he's part of that theater or whatever, and you're like, oh, well, like there's all sorts of statements being made about art consumption and shit like that, like it was.

It's not just arbitrary, as I guess the way to phrase it.

Yeah, yeah, that's a good that's a good way to put it.

Is this not just like silly goose business for silly goose business sake?

Yeah?

I always talk about that, Like I I don't I like to think that I'm a smart guy movie watcher, but I'm actually really dumb.

But I do get annoyed by shit that holds my hand too much, and it shit that knows that I'm dumb and treats me like dumb, like I'm dumb.

I don't like that.

Like I think I'm smart, Yeah, but if it's too abstract, I get lost and then I get angry.

So I like things that walk that line like this and like Lost Highway to David Lynch, I think like walks that line like really, well, uh, it just it appeals to like, hey, let me figure it out my own fucking self, but also give me a little something you know, like yeah, and this I kind of also thought like this is such a would be like maybe a little bit too high flutin, but like getting high with the boys, and you know, like let's put on the weird movie.

And if I met your boys and I don't think they're ready for this movie.

I'm thinking about your boys too.

I'm like our roommates, you know, like you pull like Nate Schultz aside and be like check this.

Out, man's fair.

I'm gonna get real freaky with this French thing.

I don't know, I don't know if it's there yet, but I did kind of have that thought.

Yeah, those.

Hot lines, Well, should we talking about that kylie of it all?

Yes?

Okay, oh wait, I want to know fuck that.

We'll get there.

But I want to talk to you about Sparks.

Sparks.

There's a Sparks song in this movie.

There is, And that's the only other Leo Korak's experience I have is made.

In the Sparks movie.

Yeah, they wrote all the the Sparks, wrote the movie, and Leo directed it.

I highly recommend it.

It's called Annette, and it is exactly what you'd expect from a movie written by the Sparks guys and directed by this guy.

It's got Adam Driver and what's her name?

Shit, well girl from Dark Knight Rises.

Anyway, it's great, Like great, the songs are crazy, but I think that I don't know are us Sparks Enjoyer?

I don't.

I know I'm supposed to have them on my raidar, but I also know that you can't possibly have everything on your radar that's supposed to be on your radar.

So I am Sparks agnostic.

I was for so long.

Yeah, they were like you're supposed to know them if you like like aready eighties pop.

But that's also the sales pitch when the movie comes out, Like I feel like, if you don't already know them, my policy, as always, I need to let the body cool for five years before even attempt Sparks.

Now, right, you mean if you watch the documentary about them or if you watch a net.

Either, aren't they both relatively recent?

Yeah?

They came out around the same time.

Yeah, like this will spare me from having to talk to somebody about it at like a party or something that the only frame of reference they have is like I watched the movie about the thing.

Brother, if you end up talking to somebody at a party in the year twenty twenty five about Sparks.

You're at an okay party, you're doing okay.

You could be doing worse if that ever happens, call me and.

I'll pull up.

I'd like to tag in a guy with lower standards and you sit in the waiting room for a second stranger.

Yeah, this straw man that you invented of like some idiot that you hate for talking about Sparks.

Yeah, sure, I'll take that one for you, no problem.

God damn it.

What's wrong with you?

I didn't know any Sparks guys though, Like you were like an Elvis Costello guy.

That was your pastiche guy.

Yeah, I'm I've always been an Elvis Costello fan.

Yeah, and I'm too dumb for him.

So so you needed to do the movie and the end of the spectrum no, but anyway, yeah, so yeah, definitely watching Net for sure, like and that has like that has a plot you know, in like.

A way that like is very obvious anyway, It's not like this where it's like open to interpretation, not saying one is better than the other, but it's and then Kylie shows up, she sings, she's really cool.

The way she shows up is fascinating.

That's when you start to realize there's more going on with the limos too.

Is there's like a really funny limo accident.

Yeah, it's like the American driver, right, like her driver's American.

He's screaming, and then Denny's driver is obviously Selene.

It's such a French meet cute.

Is like you're incompetent servants, have a dust up and then you bump into somebody you have, like a a romance with twenty years ago that ended when you lost a child.

That's a meat cute a French art movie.

Yeah, that is true Frenchman French movies.

I'm always ready for some painful shit to happen, like out of nowhere, just always waiting.

Just like when he puts on a ski mask made of barbed wire and like shoots a banker, I was like not surprised at all.

Yeah, that just all checks out.

Yeah, Kylie's good.

She's a fucking good actor in this at least she's really good.

Yeah.

All right, hot lines, damn son.

I have none, so oh hit me, okay, oh I've got a couple.

It's my favorite.

Oh three twelve shit, that's the count in when the band is playing during the intermission and they do like a group pause and then they jump back into action.

That accordion interlude was fucking sick, so great.

I had a great time with that.

Yeah.

I was giving a little uh go gole bordello kind of yeah, man, man, maybe.

I also really liked the car accident between the two limos when Selene screams ecdoplasmon wheels the other driver really rude.

Yeah, yeah, I don't even know what that means, but it's fantastic.

He's slimer driving a limo.

That's a thing that happened in either of the first two.

Ghostbusters eating hot dogs and.

Wow, Like I feel like that's a scene I faintly recall.

He does drive a cab, he drives, steals a cab.

Yeah, he puts on even puts on a little hat.

Oh my gosh.

When Uh, the protagonist uh jumps out and attackts the banker and one of the banker's security guards screams aim for the crotch.

I thought it was him when he was getting shot, telling them to shoot him in the dick shoot him in the dick.

Which either one is great because that was fantastic.

Either way, shoot him in the dick.

It's like, what is it, RoboCop, there's a dick exactly?

Yeah, goddamn have you seen that edit, like which just he's just shooting dicks over and over again.

Somebody made an edit where like it's just like guys keep coming and they keep getting shot in the actual dick.

Oh, it's so funny.

That's good.

Quick TAXI follow that pigeon.

Yeah, yeah, he's.

Needed to laugh.

Yeah, they need to laugh before midnight.

So and also it's it's like that weird I forget what it's called.

It's like ethical labor or emotional labor where he's like just watched his previous love fall to her death and he's had this long, weird, shitty day and he's drunk and he's like, we're gonna have to laugh, and she like rolls her eyes.

It's like flirting with a bartender or something like it's pathetic.

Yeah, she's like, I don't know, maybe we'll laugh.

Who gives a fuck.

And then they nearly crashed the limo and he like says something mildly funny and she laughs to humor him, but then she like chuckles a little more after, like, yeah, this is actually sort of funny.

Yeah, this is pretty good.

Follow that pigeon.

Oh my gosh, he's there and you'd love to laugh.

You know, we've already discussed Uh, no appointment in the forest this week.

Too bad, I missed forests.

Uh, the whole bit with the motion capture suits.

Not a hot line, just really fucking cool.

Oh.

The other hot line is when it may be the protagonist.

It might just be one of the scenes he's acting in, but his daughter pretends to have fun at a party because otherwise her smug father is gonna give her shit about it, and she's word, she's gonna get in trouble.

And then he's like, your punishment, dar Angela, is that you have to be you?

Yeah?

Just thing tort Yeah, brutal see.

And now I'm like anytime there's like father daughter stuff, now I'm like, fucking it hits me in a weird way.

Yeah, someday you get to say something that condescends God.

I'm gonna say some such stupid shit to my years.

Of required therapy.

Oh God, I didn't want to think about it.

Fucking insane, fucked that scene.

That scene actually was like the probably the scariest part of the whole movie for me, was that just like how vicious of a read he was giving her the whole time, and like he was happier, Like she even says it, like we'd be happier if I was lying to you.

Yeah, brutal.

Yeah.

No, there's a lot of like weird, dark shit about that whole like just this sort of implicit divorce aspect and shit like that.

Yeah, yeah, he was so obviously a divorced guy.

Oh I do have one more hotline.

Actually when the motion cap like the motion capture scene is really great because he is very clearly in incredible shape and an incredible athlete, but he's also like a man in his mid fifties that smokes cigarettes and since in a limo all day and drinks bourbon by the fucking glass.

And they turn up the uh treadmill that he's on as he's running like full tilt, and he falls off and gets like slightly hurt and slightly embarrassed, and he just looks him and goes a breather and then we'll carry on.

Yeah, yeah, it is like he he is an acrobat like Denny Levante, you know, like he's fucking sick.

Like the shit he does is just unbelievable.

And now I think it's cool if they set that up right away, Like it's one of the first things you see is him being like kind of a badass physical performer.

And then I don't know, I was just so much more attuned to his like body much in the way I wasn' when we watched Gerard Butler and Den of Thebes, but for different reasons.

Just like after that, You're like, you're just so much more aware of his physicality.

Yeah, but also his size.

He's like a small guy, Like the scene with the motion capture when they finally pair him up with like this amazonium like off, there's a number of scenes where they go out of their way to do the opposite of paper soldiers to this poor man, just make him look like five to three perfect.

To pair him with Kylie, who is a tiny person.

Mm hmm.

She's the jj Berea of this little job Job, Little job Job, My man.

Any more hot lines.

I don't have hot lines.

Do you have any notes from the movie of anything that like stood out, like, for instance, the first appointment he has where he plays a weird old woman asking for change.

But like, even on a second viewing, I'm still trying to parse whether everyone in that is an actor or whether he's just acting and who he's acting for.

And it reminded me.

I think it's called The Man with the Twisted Lip, where it's like the Sherlock Holmes story where a guy goes disappears every day and his wife is like, where the fuck is my husband going?

Is he like cheating on me?

Is he like in debt?

YadA, YadA YadA.

But he just decides to like dress up like a street person and panhandle all day because it makes him feel alive.

Oh yeah, he.

Like goes through an opium den and then like goes out their weird alley doors.

So Sherlock Holmes, who has like an opiate addiction, has to like follow him and then like he's sort of is fucked up Too's then half the work has to be done by Watson, and at the end they just have like a gentleman's agreement that's like, Uh, this is weird and I can't keep come back to an opium den.

So can we just like agree that you fucking quit doing this weird shit.

So that's a great way to end it.

Damn.

Yeah, it's no.

I did think about like some videos I've seen that are like Panhandler Exposed, you know, like they follow a woman and it's like, turns out she has money.

That's it's like a stolen valor or the whole time I'm rooting for the person that's supposed to be the villain.

Yeah, it's weird.

Yeah, I do come around on those who I'm like, this person doesn't deserve to be have content inflicted upon the worst fate.

Yeah, being the star of a YouTube video you're not doing the editing on is like the most dystopian position to find oneself.

Oh my god, unless you're Haley whatever.

And then you get to joel osmant uh no Hawk the old Hawk toua Oh yes, yeah, who did a rug pull with her a little meme coin and that's good ship right there.

Yeah uh yeah.

I mean there wasn't like what else I noticed that.

I mean the smoking.

We love the smoking, we love smoking.

Yeah, I did notice a lot of smoking the car.

I've been watching a lot of top Gear and Grand Tour, which.

Which toured like a top Gear competitor.

Well after top Gear got canceled because Jeremy Clarkson had said a bunch of insane, horrible shit a couple of times on the show, and BBC was like, that's fine, you can be racist towards Filipinos, and then they can't.

They drew the line when he punched a producer, and they can canceled top Gear, and then it came back on Amazon Prime as Grand Tour, the same exact show, same exact people.

And I'm watching all of the films, the like long form specials that they've done.

I fucking love them.

I think they're great, even though he's problematic as hell.

I guess get it.

I do R Kelly karaoke on occasion, like we're all fucking evil, man.

I thought about that.

I did.

I went by the for the record, not any song that could be about a child, just Gotham City.

I don't think there's a possibility that the song Gotham City is about.

You're like, these are he R Kelly couldn't write the rules.

It's pretty wise of you to be like he's in the rules of the DC universe.

It's kind of yeah, yeah, no, that's a totally different thing.

Speaking of of of you know, deeving behavior and whatever criminals that are canceled, guys that are canceled.

I walked past the Diddy trial when I was picking up Nadia from work.

For really, Yeah, I was crazy, man, way crazier than I thought it would be.

So many fucking people outside of that.

Weren't there a lot of like weird, depressing, like ADOS influencers outside that were like rooting for him to be let go in the hope that it got the more Instagram followers And shit.

What's an ADOS?

Uh?

It is?

According to me, UH send all our hate posts at podegga box office dot com.

It is basically, it's an acronym that stands for American Descendant of slavery, and occasionally good points are made about the fact that, like everyone's diaspora journey through their familial and cultural lines are different, but it's usually used in a way that reeks of like conservative psyop as a way to try to like split the left whenever anybody's really mad at like, I don't know, American colonial patriarchy shit.

Like anytime people talk about UH reparation, they're always there to be like but just for like people that can prove it, Like, we don't want anybody who had the privilege of living in the Congo in the fifties to accidentally get a theoretical check that America's never going to get cut.

Like the whole thing reeks of like I don't know, something created in a lab to make sure nothing ever gets done.

But do they have like shirts and a website.

It's mainly something you see in people's Twitter handles.

It's like, you know when somebody talks about like freeing Ukrainians and you're like, oh, you're just a weird NATO pervert, you're secretly conservative.

This is like the black Twitter version of seeing a Ukrainian flag in someone's profile.

Okay, where in theory.

There could be a noble version of the argument being made, but ninety nine times out of one hundred, it's like, oh, you're just a grifter.

Yeah, well that's depressing.

But there was a lot.

There's a lot down.

There's just it was all media.

Like it was everybody either like trying to be media or you were like mainstream media, like all surrounding that courthouse.

It was almost it was like semi permanent too.

It was like a tense city of like because they're out there every single fucking day, so like they had to sort of like set up pop up tents and have power and like it was like weirdly built up, you know what I mean.

Yeah, it was almost like you walked into like like a runway set up outside of like a theater for like a premiere or something, but it's like for a fucking trial of a monster.

Anyway.

Uh, yes, I don't know why we were talking about.

That, but oh I found another hot line.

Okay, the do you know Diane Arbus For example, she took photos of a dwarf giants, you know, people that are really air quotes human and he bites her fingers off so good.

That was so fucking It's really funny.

There's like a lot of and also in that same scene, the fact that when the photographer is photographed the model, he just keeps going beauty, beauty, and then the urchin somebody's just like weird.

I love it.

No, that was like my favorite character that did nothing was his name was like Billy t Bone or something.

Yeah, yeah, I was like, is that fucking t Bone burnette?

Like that's a.

Guy, right, and t Bone Burnett is a guy.

Yeah, produced King of America by Elvis Costello.

We've brought it full circle.

I hate there we go.

We brought it full circle, like so many times, we're like we're in overal boros at this point.

Uh well, okay, is this the point in the show in which we talk about some music.

Oh my gosh, potentially let me just skim these Yeah.

What else you got?

Yeah?

Oh yeah, we were talking about random ship we noticed, and that's how I ended up talking about.

Yeah.

I love a good forklift factory scene.

I have worked in factories before, and is like something that's pleasing to me about like the stacks in the right angles and shit, yeah it says more about me than the film almost invariably, But yeah, I just I get a kick out of a forklift factory scene.

Now that that seemed did jump out of me because it had the sense of like it felt like we're just gonna shoot this wherever we can, and they found something that is like without even trying, it looks interesting, you know, like they didn't have to do anything to it's that seemed like a real place, you know.

Yeah, So are you do you have your forklift license.

Is that what I'm getting from this.

I do not have my forklift license, but I could have.

It just didn't seem uh, I don't know.

I could have.

I just didn't feel like it.

Well, it'd be weird to be like, I'm gonna spend a week of a summer job getting a forklift license when you can just use what's called a pallet jack.

If they're the pallet jack, yes, yes, yeah, pallet jack is the poor man's forklift for those of you.

Or less.

I can home so you can still move like palettes and large, large heavy objects.

You can just move less of them and it's more of like I don't know, I wouldn't call it a muscle thing because there's like hydraulics, So pushing down with like twenty pounds of force can lift something that's like two hundred pounds.

And it's not like it gets that high up off the ground.

Yeah, it gets like maybe like ten inches off the ground or something.

Dude, have you ever seen the video this is a scissor jack, you know what that is?

Where it's like it's like a lift that just goes up.

It's like an elevator just goes up.

You know who knows a little hydraulic things of a dude at where he's working at Lows and he's taking a scissor jack up to get like a microwave down from one of the high high shelves, but he can't lift it and it kind of falls on him, but it mostly just like it's just sort of pinning him awkwardly.

He's not really in any danger, but he starts panicking.

He's got to be like twenty three, and he starts panicking and shaking and screaming, and the old dude who's obviously like training him spotting him, is like the kids screaming like, may have me, just lift it up?

What are you doing?

It's so fucking good.

Oh god, it's great anyway, that's you.

Yeah, yeah, no, let me burn the rest of my notes here.

I got some on the second viewing.

First off, when he is being the old Lady character in the beginning, and that's his real voice, not that of the old Lady, Like he's basically just like, oh it's so hard, I'm so old.

Everything is such shit, and you think it's the old Lady, and then the second time you're like, oh no, it's like this guy just acting for a paycheck.

That's good.

It's sort of like how in the scene where he's the street urchin, I should probably that seems like a phrase you're not supposed to say.

Yeah either, but whatever.

Yeah, it's like such an old, fucking old old word.

It's I think that's what they say in the Sherlock Holmes that's take it out on Uh yeah, the guy's names, but we'll put it in post.

Yeah, the sewer people that he walks by, those aren't actors.

They're just saying regular people in the sewer.

I mean that's what I gathered.

I forgot about that.

He has to like emerge in this part where there's like the fashion shoot being done and there they never reappear, and most of those sorts of scenes in the rest of the movie are just him getting to the place where his role starts.

So I think that's just one of those weird like nods to the fact that everything fucking sucks in this universe.

It's like those people are just going on like really long death marches in the sewers.

That's cool, that's uh.

I mean, Paris, do we have in tunnels?

Yeah, because it reminds me of that movie, which I don't know if you've seen it's fucking Songs from the second Floor.

I think it's called No.

There's a lot of that stuff where like there's just these big tableaus of just like really sad, insane shit happening with like tons of people just like like a yeah, like it'd be normal for a scene to just all of a sudden have a really long death march just like passed through it.

It's cool.

It's really cool.

Actually, I think you did.

I think it's like a Swiss film or Strangish Austrian, I don't know.

Anyway, Yeah, I got that from it when I saw it and Nadia I watched it with her.

She really liked it too.

She was like, oh, I can't wait for them to never explain those people, so she clocked it.

Also, she also had a really good insight that she's like, this guy's a great actor because he's playing a great actor, you know.

What I mean, Like, yeah, that's true.

He's doing acting and then as an acting role always hard to do.

That's why the Godzilla theme hits when he emerges in his weird green outfit to eat fingers and flowers.

I mean, I had this problem watching Godzilla minus one, also, like can you not say get the fuck up?

Like it's impossible, right, Like, once that shit hits you, you have to say it.

Yeah, it was very uh, I don't know.

I wasn't gonna say fortuitous, but I was listening to Tweed Cadillac, the rapper who was one half of DJ Quick affiliates the Penthouse Players Click, and I randomly heard the Godzilla theme in a beat of his after I had been like, I don't know, decided that that wasn't the audio.

It was just notable that that was like a different spin on the same thing that Pherahmont obviously crushed.

But then I listened to Tweed Cadillac the whole next day and it was really funny because it meant that I got to hear my five year old just go Tweed cadillact baby.

He thought he was alone in our room.

That's great, and like, no, I'm always monitoring you, just for times when you say things like Tweed Cadillac baby, or yell Sauce waka random.

Or TV dough.

Yeah exactly.

You're ruining that child.

If he only talks like Spanish David Lee Roth or Tweed Cadillac.

I think that, Uh, he'll be just fucking fine.

Man, like, got you got guests over, like come on, okay, come on out here and do your little thing, do your little uh your Spanish davidly Roth bitch.

And no one has any idea what I'm talking about.

Ever, seven beers in just like I do the thing.

Yeah, it's funny.

Uh yeah that but yeah, like that that gods all the theme just it hits every time.

Yeah.

Remember when we saw him in Bedsady.

Oh my god, that was so cool.

It was the uh Internal Affairs ten year anniversary, if I remember correctly.

That's right.

Yeah, there's a fight when you started playing, Simon says, everybody started fighting.

Yeah, it felt dangerous, it felt it definitely felt like a dangerous thing when that song comes on and people are that hyped and hammered.

That was awesome.

Yeah, it was him, and I think the DJ was it was either J Period or DJ Spina, Like it was some cool fucking like East Coast DJ who had done a bunch of fucking work.

What a weird menu.

Sputnik Yeah, Sputnik existed for like three months or something.

Yeah, just in the basement of like a loft in bedstide.

Yeah, oh my last two notes One Selene suppressing laughter when she sees the protagonist wearing a motion capture suit.

I didn't see it the first time, but the second time, once I sort of knew the framework of the movie, she definitely is like snickering, like, get a load of this fucking knob.

That's great.

He does like a little like shamed.

Yea, yeah, he's got to go, like writhe around on the floor so that way somebody can turn him into like a sexy dragon later just clown shit.

Yeah.

And then also, this movie is one hundred percent correct about your aging car being a fucking prison.

Yeah that's true.

Yeah, like you mean the car's talking.

No, just the idea of, like the extension of what this movie is about, like the idea of having like an obsolete limousine that's like has outlived its purpose and like it's going to eventually just be useless, but you sort of had find something to do with it.

And if you don't, the next person does and it's a fucking nightmare.

And like he's trapped in this fucking car putting on like rubber makeup and shit, like yeah, no, it makes sense that a society that regularly like sets cars on fire would understand the automobile far more than the mayor filmmaker.

That's why they ride moped's over there exactly.

We could be free to smoke a cigarettes swell right.

One of the funniest things I think you ever said was when you impersonated Tony Parker, also French, and he said I like it a poose.

I think that was about him sleeping with Brent Barry's wife.

Yes, that's exactly what it was.

But just the idea of him, not even in a French accent, just saying I like it a poosa.

Yeah, hearing it now, it sounds a lot more like Cheech Marin and from the dust Still Dawn.

Yeah, it was more like that than anything.

Oh but it's more like a I a stinker.

I like it.

That's just funny.

Okay, So let's listen to this, mainly because I didn't listen to all of it yet, but let's start with this bus driver song.

Oh it's so good, isn't it.

This is a sample from Impossible Princess.

Is that what I'm getting?

Okay?

So, no, Shastakovich is like a fucking composer and a lot of the music, especially in the back half of the movie that like is like really weighty emotional string quartet shit, like after Kylie Minogue and that dude like plummet to their death.

Potentially, but also maybe just because they're actors.

Who gives a fuck?

Yeah, Like that's the music.

It's Shastakovich and the particular Dimitri Shastakovich quartet that that's from, Like the particular movement has never been sampled, but a different piece from that sweet or whatever.

I'm very bad with my classical music jargon.

This is great for the French fucking art movie episode.

Hell yeah, yeah, the Soviet Russian composer.

Yeah, they basically they sampled a different, uh part of the same thing, and it was like, you know, I don't know what I'm fucking in for here.

We're not gonna just use three different klibanog songs, all of which are going to get like d m c A copyright strikes.

So we're going to talk fucking weird, good life southern California rap music as a throwback to our Oh what movie was that that we watched?

This is the life, This is the life which I think we also looped in with Wrinkle and Time.

Yeah, yeah, Ava du Vern, which you saw and I didn't.

Yes, but I only saw it because I wanted to hear the shot a song over the credit.

Which was good.

Yeah, it's cool to be listening to bus Driver again.

Didn't somebody didn't?

Didn't bus bus Driver get canceled for something?

Sean says, bus driver has been canceled.

That sounds about right.

But he also told us about it while also it was like the epilogue to him doing a hot five minutes about the time that bus Driver was on like an online dating or was on like a dating show.

Oh yeah, he was on blind date.

Yeah, he was on blind date.

And we all talked about it, and then at the end he was just like, oh yeah, Also he's a sex pest or whatever.

But I don't recall whether not to get back into be saying binary we always do.

I don't remember if he is like someone who has like I don't know, like felonies, or if it's more like a creepy Asi's Ansari thing, neither of which is Okay, keep yourdicting your pants, gentlemen.

But yeah, I keep your shit together.

Our boy in the movie does not keep his penis in his pants.

We see his fully erect penis.

I think we just need to note that.

Oh that's interesting because I watched this for free on YouTube, but not in the normal VHS ripway, but in the it's for free on YouTube as like Google movies or whatever, and they pixelated his wang.

Oh yeah, yeah, he sees wang interesting.

It might have been a prosthetic, but I mean, I don't know, like it'd be so hard to like get a boner and keep it and then do multiple takes like what Yeah, I was thinking blue Choo maybe Blue Choo.

Anyway, This song is called Map Your Psyche featuring who Oh It's.

La Cool, who's like a project blowed guy.

Sometimes he calls himself the Rifleman, and then also Abstract Rude, who sometimes is a beastly rapper and sometimes does sort of like Umi says, uh, I don't know, like lighting candles, wrap r and b shit.

So yeah, total legends and they all rap well, but La Cool fucking bent and lead Off just eats the fucking track alive, like he completely bodies it.

It's unbelievable, all right, and we'll be back.

I'll just driving the record.

It's clean, it's real clean, like my conscious are.

You're gonna break my chops, don't trouble you guys like you're come in and break my chops all the time.

If you're gonna break my chops, you can take it on the arches right now.

You understand?

Sorry what I mean that?

Yeah?

I didn't bring him before you.

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I get aboard the porces the words because I'm Tory.

Suports the worst.

It's the worse thing U smorcus border would a war divorce.

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With his final town.

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When you wind?

Man?

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And that then we hit my fuck because there's.

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All right, Kylie Mino man, you did you ever Okay?

The place where Kylie would have best served us in the last ten years is in our DJ gigs at the bars.

Yes, did you ever whip out any Kylie?

When you were at the the old whatever the fuck hatch?

Yeah?

I played?

Uh, I can't catch you out of my head uh amount.

And then there was some single that was really similar to that the Chemo Yek a year later might have been called Fever or something I don't really recall.

There was something else that had a similar bpm and it was just a chum for the waters.

I've always enjoyed that Kylie Minogue exists, but like I never spend a lot of time jumping in, so like listening to like Disco an Impossible Princess today and over the last few days was like more work than I have done in the Kylie Minogue ecosystem since living with you during a period of time where you listened to Can't Get You out of My Head ten times a day.

Yeah, that was a moment when I did that.

Also, Slow on Body Language, I listened to that fucking song like so many times, like.

A Chemical Brothers remix of something.

Yeah, the Chemical Ro remix is so fucking good.

Dude.

Oh my god.

She when she does live shows now, she basically does the remix when she plays slow Okay.

Yeah, she's very much in her like you know, her Vegus residency, like Queen Era, you know, like she's just like but she's really got her shit together.

And she's so fucking focused.

Yeah, like and I mean she's just never stopped.

She reminds me of.

If Janet Jackson were putting out a new album every like one to two years.

Yeah, yeah, that's kind of it.

And then she's just like now she's kind of done with experimentation.

It seems like I'm just sort of leaning into like what people want is how I'm sort of I.

Was bummed by the one thing I heard that I didn't like was I saw that she did like a country album allegedly, and then I went to hear it and I was like, this is not a country album.

This is just an album recorded in Nashville that is all like sort of like it sounds like the new bad Casey Musgraves that I don't like as opposed to the good obilly Casey Muskgraves.

Shit, yeah that's stripes.

Which one Stripes is Brandy Clark, Casey musk Graves did pageant material is the Jam?

Oh yeah?

But yeah.

The first two Casey Musgraves albums are just straight country, and then the third one is like half country half sort of spins on timber.

But they all are bonkers and all really good and then after that then she was like famous and they would call things country because she is like from Texas or something.

But yeah, it never really hit the same way.

Yeah, gold Golden is.

I'm actually like, nothing turns me off more than like a pop artist like going to Nashville and doing that.

I'm like, never into that.

I don't mind if they're going out there and doing like I don't know, sort of the equivalent of like a guy in Singapore singing my way karaoke, like I want to see the seams and I want it to be absurd, and I wanted to lean into like an old school country And I think that's what's it is when they say something is country, and what they mean is it's like, I don't know, they just took ed M and made it like the EDM songs that like a vig had a fiddle player on.

Or whatever brought out Alo Black or that one song or yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm not I haven't really gotten to Golden in my like revisiting of her catalog.

Yeah.

I think the other thing about Kylie is that we in the States get to like pick and choose when to engage with her a little bit more like if we were in the UK, like she's just like mega saturated.

Oh yeah, like we just inescapable, and that also means we don't have to deal with like the bullshit weird UK tabloid stuff.

Yeah, so like I do like that about my like Kylie experience is just kind of like up to me, which I don't take for granted.

I think that's kind of kind of cool.

The Pitchfork Sunday review of Impossible Princess, Did you read that?

I did?

Actually pretty good?

Pretty good multiple swipes at the Manic Street Preachers, which I don't know that get whales, get them, go get whales.

Why are we swiping at the man be That doesn't make any sense?

Yeah, No, it was a little odd, but it was cool that they did it, and like it is significant.

I also think I like when Americans have to engage with that British version of celebrity.

Like did you see Better Man the Robbie Williams Monkey Movie.

No, No, but I've read a lot about it.

It's a hoot.

Like it's not art or anything, but like the idea of taking the celebrity biopic, which is like the lowest form of trash, and then like having a guy who's like a self obsessed like turn Flinger, and he's like, but here, here's the angle.

We're gonna use a CGI monkey, someone who would actually fling turns to get attention.

It's funny.

I don't know.

I I watched in three different very high installments at odd hours, and all three of them were pleasant.

But I also think if I had to watch two hours and ten minutes of the Robulumes Monkey movie consecutively, that would be hard.

Well, you you also are somebody who would have known who he is.

Like, the biggest like criticism levied against that movie is that American audiences don't know who the fuck he is.

But like you're a you know, you're an Anglo file.

Yeah, I remember take that attempting to cross over here.

I think Back for Good was the single here.

Wow look at you?

Yeah, I mean I remember rock DJ.

You know that that's a rough song.

That's the low point of that movie.

Actually it's the Rock dejar A.

Lot of people say it's the high point that performance, really right, Yeah, it's funny.

They're fucking wrong, isn't.

That when like all the monkeys start like fighting each other and shit.

Yeah, it's like a I forget what it's called a flash mob or whatever, and they pluck the entire song and like, yeah, no's it's something that the record label is like, this song is our bread and butter, like, yeah, this is the one that's gonna like sell a bunch of bullshit after they leave the theater.

And no, not at all is Kylie in it?

Do they have the Kylie Kids moment?

I don't recall Kylie being in it.

They spend a lot of time with his relationship with one of the women from All Saints.

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, was it Black Coffee or what was the song?

The well here never ever was the big one.

Right, But then they had their follow up, tried to make it here or something of the States, another band that was like yeah, if you weren't really paying attention, you wouldn't really realize, Oh, they're actually fucking huge over there.

Yeah yeah, no, it was.

Yeah, But that that part was really interesting actually, because it's very much like the She's the one that got away.

She understands how celebrity works, and I was a cocaine addict with a terrible impulse control.

And when she briefly see more faans missed than me.

I lost my fucking mind.

Ah, I think that was the two nice.

If you're going to see a bio pick, you're like, oh, this is all a lie.

But Robbie Williams does not care whether he gets good attention or bad attention, so he made a bio pick about himself where he is played by a monkey and where he looks like an asshole.

Yea, which is very different than your average shitty biopick.

Yeah, it's no Straight out of Compton where doctor dra comes out of it looking like a fucking superhero.

Yeah.

Did you see the Dylan one?

No?

No, I did not.

I'll probably well at some point, but.

That wouldn't make your ears bleed.

I really like, what the fuck is the Todd Haynes.

I'm not there?

Yeah, I know you.

You definitely told me to watch that when it came out and I never did.

Yeah.

It's like he's played by like Kate Blanchette and like a nine year old black boy and like various other strange.

See that sounds cool.

Yeah, that sounds like interesting.

And it was like the other thing is too.

It's like this movie where for like eight minutes you're bored.

You're like well, there's gonna be another eight minutes that's completely different coming up.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, that movie is the shit.

Todd Haynes is cool.

We should really do Superstar of the Karen Carpenter movie at some point.

Yeah, we've taught.

We've talked about it many times.

Actually, it's come up over ten years, I think fifteen times.

I think we should too.

But yeah, the Shallo may one.

The best thing I can say about is that, like, it's cool to sit and listen.

It's got a lot of songs in it, so it's like it's cool to like sit and listen to Bob Dylan.

Is it like actually licensed or is it covers the way I'm not there, it's covers.

It's like it's him singing these songs and they actually sound all right, which is also kind of weird.

That's weird, Yeah, because.

You're a fan, so you'd hate it.

It sounds like a nightmare.

Yeah, but I liked it because I'm like, oh yeah, I just like you don't.

Actually, my biggest complaint about biopics is that there's not enough music sometimes, and like there's actually like maybe even too much music and it's like overcorrect, which is just such a weird thing for a biopick to do is just to have so much fucking music.

Yeah, because I'm Not There has like an all star band that plays with like two thirds of the musicians.

But then like sometimes it's a straight cover and sometimes it's like sort of a any over the top cover, and sometimes it's totally different, like Los Lobos do like Billy from Pat Garrity and Billy the Kid, or there's like a really cool cat Power version of Stuck Inside a Mobile with the Memphis Blues Again.

Uh yeah, It's like there's like thirty five songs on the double disc I'm Not There soundtrack, and most of them aren't even in the movie, with just a bunch of people being like Todd Haynes is fucking cool.

Velvet gold Mine made me want to become a rock star.

Sure you can have my weird Dylan cover for free.

Cool take it?

Hell yeah, Yeah, it's super fucking.

Cool, so k impossible, Princess the Yeah, the pitchfork right up, My you said.

The Manx part of it, which like that's actually my least fairite about the album is the like rock songs.

Yeah, I think the trip hop kind of massive attack.

Shit, it's like amazing.

And I that's what sort of like set me on this most recent rest, not re listen but just checking out Kylie again m h.

And it's like it's almost a little disappointing that, like the ship she's been doing for like the last five albums is like it's not her trying to you know, be weird again, which you know was I guess that's what impossible for Princess was.

But the ship's all good, Like it's all just like solid pop bangers.

It's what I liked about the review was I don't like deluxe editions of albums, like it's there should have to at the very least like put the bonus tracks on like an italic font or something so on, because like if you don't.

Oh I hate it on my on my device, yeah yeah, And like I use.

You two music.

So you can't delete in vigil songs from an album, so it's difficult and usually I just get in the habit of deleting all that shit, unless it's an album I listened to relentlessly and finding out that like she had songs she wanted to make the cut, but then the label had songs they want like it made me more interested in the detritus than yeah, yeah, yeah I normally would be.

So like it sold me on wanting to go back to that record because that was, like, I think one of the few that I had ever just downloaded on my own, like fifteen years ago or something.

Yeah, one of the actual pieces of research that I did listening to a podcast with Steve Anderson, who was one of the like writers.

He's still Kylie's music director, I think, OK, but he he came on during that phase into her career and like he worked on him.

He wrote the songs on Impossible Princess with her and produced them with his partner.

I forgot they're like they have a name anyway, but yeah, he goes through all of the demos that are like left on the cutting room floor, and like they were doing some weird shit.

It sounds like there's one where they like he said they pretty much sat down and tried to make hyperballad with like the York song, and like that never made the album.

There's also one that Nick Cave wrote that never made the album.

So like the demos that aren't even out are like kind of interesting.

For that one.

He said that Nick Cave one might actually be somewhere to be able to find it, which sounds really cool because I do like that Nick Cave and Kylie do it.

What the fuck is it called?

God damn it?

That was that was around this time, Yeah, ninety five Nick Cave, Kylie Minogue call Me the Wild Where the Wild Roses Grow.

That song is cool as shit.

There's a performance there's The other weird thing is that like they went on top of the Pops and performed this song that is essentially like a murder ballad where she's singing the part of the murdered woman.

It's just nuts that, like this was like what the American or like the UK public was like looking for in their pop music.

Anyway.

Those kind of things just like make her more and more fascinating to me, the kind of like diversions and left turns and odd kind of one offs.

And then like I think where she's at now, like she's earned it.

Good, good for her.

Fuck yeah, like I would just like to see her do some more weird shit again.

Yeah, but goes fucking hard though.

That song rules, and uh, like if she keeps having hits like that, it's like that's a fucking huge hit, but I'm not even really aware of how big.

It is.

Unbelievably massive, and like, if she keeps cranking those out, she's just gonna, you know, no more massive attack style albums for us.

But we can go back to one of the weirder little experiments.

It's cool.

Yeah, this is cool.

This was around the same era too, as Impossible Princess.

I think it's yeah, kicked off a little bit of like her experimental phase, and I think it's maybe the most experimental she's ever gotten on Wax.

Maybe I don't know.

Yeah, Kyle Minogan toa Ta is a song GBI German bold Italic tell.

Me, yeah, it's toe te, possibly butchering the pronunciation.

He is from Delight, Oh.

She loves Delight.

I do know this about Kylie.

I didn't know that he was a dlight guy.

So he did all like not all, but he was a very important cog in the Delight machine.

And then he had put out an album called Future Listening that was sort of a lot of this shit is sort of like Handsome Boy Modeling School without the skits or the plot, where it's just like bringing in weird people that he thinks are cool and trying a bunch of weird like niche genre exercises, all of which are danceable.

So like the Sound Museum as an album has like Kylie Minogue, but it also it's like biz Marquis and Bahamadia like sick.

It's all really interesting, and then this song is like the most aggressive electronic music of all of it, but she's basically singing from the standpoint of being the typeface German bold It talent and like, I'm not even sure whether it's like like I think it's just random lyrics, but part of me also thinks that it might be like the weird instructional text they like attach to the file when you download, like a new font or whatever.

Like it's really interesting and it's tragic because the video is also super cool, but in order to make the video work, the video is only available like low res shitty clips anyway.

But they also edit like the eight minute song.

Down and they take out a lot of the verses, so it's like less fun where I don't know, in a perfect world, someone would just edit this all together and like double up some of the footage and make the audio all fucking like four K or whatever, if.

It wouldn't be that hard to do.

I didn't know that.

I didn't know it was like an edit because the video makes it seem like a little bit like a meme video, you know.

Yeah, because like a big part of is that Kylie's dressed up in this like elaborate, like outfit, and you can clearly tell she's enjoying the fact that no one knows who she is in this outfit because she's like trolling people on the street in the financial district.

But I didn't realize that this.

Yeah, it's it's longer.

I'm stoked to check out the long Oh my god.

It sounds so fucking great and like the whole album's cool.

And the only times the album gets any criticism at all is from people who are like, the first album you did, like this was the most perfect thing ever, and then you waited three years and released something very similar, which is like a kind of criticism I rarely get behind.

So yeah, yeah, it's a complete fucking banger.

And it again gets down to the fact that Kylie Minogue is fucking uh yeah, willing to take interesting risks, even if she's not going to like make a bunch of money on it, She's just like, fuck yeah, Delight is cool.

Yeah, and he covers Private Eyes with Bee Hilbert though on it.

Yeah, that's fucking cool.

Yeah, it's a fun album.

I would recommend this and Future Listening as well.

I don't think we just we got we had had it so good in like the late nineties with this kind of album.

I even know what you'd call this, like, yeah, the handsome boy modeling school, like hey, let's throw a bunch of weird shit Teddy Bears.

The were fucking teddy Bears.

That was early odd.

Yeah, yeah, this shit's kind of fun where it's like some of the songs are bound to be crap, but like se are probably really fucking sweet.

Yeah.

No.

I listened to like the whole record the other night.

I was just like, how have I never How did I download Future Listening, enjoy it five times, completely forget about it, and then never follow up with the second one until I panicked when you're like, hey, let's do a Kylie Minogue episode.

You're too good to me.

This is our anti Dark Backward episode.

The Dark Backward episode had the most scintillating movie discourse ever.

And then I was just like, here's two songs about garbage men that both of you are going to hate, and this is like the opposite, just total bangers.

After we stumble through the French art discourse.

You know, I did come around on that fucking Doja Cat song after making that fan cam for Bill Paxton, Like that unlocked a lot of things for me.

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But let's play the song.

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Would you have never seen before?

I can call you so well, especially in yet extremely great maybe in.

You you like my sense of style.

You will like my sense of style.

You will like my sense of style.

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FAA, my name.

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