Episode Transcript
I saw like, I've done so much promotion for only fans.
I've always done the right thing.
I've been around for years and years and years.
How can you treat me like this?
And I, I still have, I haven't done anything wrong.
So I just thought like, you know what?
Yeah, obviously you don't want to talk about the that whole beef or anything, right?
Oh no, I'm happy to talk about it.
Oh good, then talk about it.
Yeah, 'cause.
Like you're like, like.
So the juicy facts, 'cause that's like, yeah, 'cause once I, I started reading that shit, I was reading all the fucking articles.
I was like, oh, this is fucking like, that's the greatest promotion you can fucking get.
Beefing with the CEO of Only Fans, right?
But before that, like, you know, like you built yourself, like you sang doing, you know, doing your PR, building your only fans and everything, and you built your only fans to a really fucking high level.
Yeah, yeah.
And it was at that point, like I was probably, you know, at my peak when I just randomly one day and only fans did this.
I know now to thousands of girls center.
I don't know if it was a glitch, but basically it was like if you get one more in infringement, we're removing your profile.
And I was like, what?
Because I'm very, I'm a businesswoman.
I am very, very careful.
Only fans has rules.
I abide by them to the T because I don't want to be the platform to lose my income.
That's stupid.
So I sent all these support tickets and I was like, what have I done?
Please explain it to me so I can make sure I never get any more infringements.
Like I'm, I'm not risking this.
This is my income.
Let's tell me what I've done so I'll make sure it never happens again.
And they're like, oh, we don't really know, but if your account goes down just whatsoever, e-mail us and we'll we'll review it.
But I was like, I've got kids, I've got mortgages.
Like I can't just risk that.
Like, if you are going to remove my account, maybe I can appeal it.
So I just went back and forth with support and I was like, no, fuck this.
So I messaged the CEO and I was like, Keely, what is going on?
Like I was like, yeah, you're a mum, you've got your kids that have disabilities, and so do I I really got personal.
I was like, I need this income.
Like I'm not trying to do anything wrong.
You need to tell me what I'm doing so I can abide by it and do the right thing by you.
And still she was like, yeah, disappeal it if it goes down.
I think she said at one stage she was like, oh, you shouldn't be selling your Snapchat code.
And I was like, here's the script.
I submitted this to Only Fans before.
I said, is this OK?
And I was told it's OK.
I'm that careful.
I double check everything I do.
Here's the screenshots of you of Only Fans telling me it's OK.
And she was like, we'll just see what happens.
If it goes down, it goes down like I'm paraphrasing, but it was like that.
And I was like, how can you sit there as Aceo?
Like, I'm coming to you like single mom to single mom and being like, let me do the right thing.
And you were just so dismissive.
And I saw like, I've done so much promotion for only fans.
I've always done the right thing.
I've been around for years and years and years.
How can you treat me like this?
And I I still have, I haven't done anything wrong.
So I just thought like, you know what?
Like this is the way they treat their creators is so gross.
Like, why couldn't they just come back to me and be like, sorry, it's a glitch.
We'll keep you or you did this wrong.
Don't do it again.
And I would have been like, cool, like, why?
Why am I being sent into all this panic?
And it just became very clear to me that this is not a reliable source of income, which is, I mean, there's a whole nother conversation about how, like, I'm very passionate now about helping Only Fans creators diversify their income and being like, OK, you're on Only Fans, That's great.
Let's leverage that to bring you in something else.
But at that stage, I did sort of, sort of have all my eggs in one basket.
So yeah, I just threw the towel in and I was like, no, I'm not making you any more money.
I'm gonna go do something for myself.
As Wu Tang says, diversify your portfolio, bitches.
Because that yes.
Right.
I mean, you have to.
Exactly.
There's been so many instances with early fans like I, I wasn't the only one who received that message about like one more infringement and you're down.
There's thousands, but nobody got taken down.
So I'm like, why?
Why 'cause all this mass paddock.
And then there was the instance in what was it 2020 I believe, where they said no more adult content and then reverse the content after the decision after 48 hours.
There was girls that were suicidal.
There was only girls that were like pulled out of college because they're like, I'm not going to be able to afford my tuition anymore and I couldn't get back in.
Like it caused so much mass panic.
So that it just goes to show that the care factor towards their creators is is non existent as they're all they're adult creators anyway.
Yeah, 'cause that's fucking I, I can't even imagine.
I mean, that had to be fucking scary, right 'cause did you like at that point, like, you know, like when you're having those conversations and shit, were you diversified at that point?
Or was it all All your eggs were in Only fans?
I did have a fans Lee as well, but I never really focused on it.
So I knew that I could transfer my audience across, but it never it's never I can't if I've got hypothetically, say I've got 100 subscribers on only fans, maybe I'd get 30 across to fans.
So you're never going to get that full conversion.
So I'd been building it for years and years and years.
So it was full of content, but I never really promoted it.
So I, I was, I guess in a sense that when I started million billion, I was like, right, who, who's my existing audience?
I've got these men who follow me because they think I'm a babe.
And then I've got a lot of women that follow me, a lot of other creators that follow me because they want to, you know, learn from me and do what I've done.
So who am I going to appeal to?
What, what are my next steps?
That what audience am I going to leverage?
And I really wanted to work with creators that that's, that's my community, that's my network, that's my, if I remove myself from this community, I don't really have any friends left.
So I wanted to stay in it.
And it was a very obvious transition for me to do million billion because it's, it was, I feel like I was the only person that could really step into starting APR marketing company in this industry because I've, I've done it and I've got business experience.
And yeah, it was a very obvious transition to me.
So even though I didn't really diversify, I did look at what I had and I was like, OK, what's what makes sense for me next?
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