[SPEAKER_14]: Hi, I'm Matt Leib, and I'm Vince Mancini, and this is Matt, you're so cool man.

[SPEAKER_14]: Hey, Matt, man podcast, we're Vince Mancini, and I go through every single episode of the Mad Nans, and talk.

[SPEAKER_14]: about it.

[SPEAKER_14]: Oh, thank you so much for listening to another killer episode of your favorite show that's impossible to find on the internet.

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[SPEAKER_14]: Yes, yeah, you know, I'm just trying to add a little bit of like glitch flair to this podcast Yeah, give us five stars in a review help other people find it because this show is actually called pod yourself a rewatch podcast And well, I've actually believe it's pod yourself a god a rewatch podcast and then and then and So season man yourself a man.

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[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, we're like a speakeasy in the side streets of like, if you can find it, you're pretty cool.

[SPEAKER_06]: Exactly.

[SPEAKER_06]: You shouldn't be here.

[SPEAKER_14]: We're like, uh, when poly people or no swingers, I think, which is different different than poly, but similar, I think, uh, where, uh, pineapples on their shirts to let people know that they, uh, what upside down pineapples specifically?

[SPEAKER_14]: I don't know what kind of pineapples, but all I know is it means fuck my wife.

[SPEAKER_14]: Fuck my life.

[SPEAKER_13]: It's actually a picture.

[SPEAKER_13]: It's a pineapple and someone's having sex with the pineapple Who's who it's talking who is that breaking the rules?

[SPEAKER_14]: But I do want to hear more about that.

[SPEAKER_14]: Anyways, give us five stars in review and leave comments and all that stuff I mean this week we got a fuck we got this great comment from someone who said who said [SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, okay, so I picked out a random clip because I forgot to do this, but yeah, that wasn't wasn't great this lights out at a 15.

[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, I had make sense.

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[SPEAKER_14]: Five stars in review.

[SPEAKER_14]: Okay, today we're talking about from season three of madman episode two love among the runes and we have a great.

[SPEAKER_14]: What, whoa, whoa, did you say runes?

[SPEAKER_06]: There's a love among the ruins, like you just pronounced half of the words in the title weirdly for no reason.

[SPEAKER_14]: I was reading them phonetically.

[SPEAKER_14]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_14]: And I also called the show Mad Man.

[SPEAKER_14]: So, why don't you leave me alone, you know what I mean?

[SPEAKER_14]: That's right.

[SPEAKER_14]: And our wonderful guest to talk about season three episode, to love among the room.

[SPEAKER_14]: We have a great hilarious returning champion.

[SPEAKER_14]: He is a comedian.

[SPEAKER_14]: He has a new comedy album out right now, both on vinyl and digital.

[SPEAKER_14]: It's called Ran Through Click the Link in the description.

[SPEAKER_14]: If you would like to purchase it, [SPEAKER_14]: say madman's good to be here, good to see y'all good to see you too thanks for having thanks for having me always enjoy yeah well I always love having you on and as I we started talking about the whole swingers thing I was like I don't know why I thought and maybe there's a reason why I thought but I was like I bet Allen knows what fruit is on the swingers person's shirt is it is it upside down [SPEAKER_13]: That's what I've heard.

[SPEAKER_13]: I mean, I didn't, and I just know that from like fucking my wife.

[SPEAKER_13]: You have a list.

[SPEAKER_13]: Fucking other meant to me.

[SPEAKER_13]: Your wife told, yeah, yeah, some wife told me that.

[SPEAKER_13]: You want my wife?

[SPEAKER_14]: You want my wife?

[SPEAKER_14]: Um, yeah, no, it's like, I've heard about people talk about the pineapples on shirts.

[SPEAKER_14]: Like, all this is, that's a signal.

[SPEAKER_14]: And ever since having a baby, [SPEAKER_14]: I realized like she's got quite a few pineapples on her baby stuff you know it's like all she got watermelons she got different fruits she got lots of ice cream cone clothing and now I'm like looking at that pineapple one and I'm like I don't like [SPEAKER_13]: Why is it have to be that fruit has had a pretty bad reputation since the beginning of time if you're true.

[SPEAKER_13]: Yes.

[SPEAKER_06]: Yes.

[SPEAKER_13]: Pineapples.

[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_06]: Thank you.

[SPEAKER_06]: You're women around fruit.

[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_06]: That's what happened.

[SPEAKER_06]: As soon as.

[SPEAKER_06]: Targeting.

[SPEAKER_14]: We've been eating fruit.

[SPEAKER_14]: That way.

[SPEAKER_14]: But also though.

[SPEAKER_14]: That is there an eve connection to the pineapple thing because it's like, if you think about it like, [SPEAKER_14]: The Lucifer, the snake, was like the first guy who was ever like trying to get someone to cheat, you know, if it's a pine apple, you know, it's right there.

[SPEAKER_06]: No, I got that.

[SPEAKER_13]: But I have the Lucifer is also like the first, um, first like Costco sample person too.

[SPEAKER_13]: Oh, yeah, that's true.

[SPEAKER_14]: Just try it.

[SPEAKER_14]: Just try it.

[SPEAKER_14]: I would love it if Satan hit himself as a Costco employee.

[SPEAKER_14]: Just try it.

[SPEAKER_14]: It's just like try it.

[SPEAKER_14]: It's open.

[SPEAKER_14]: The fruit of knowledge all along.

[SPEAKER_14]: Now you are punished by being kicked out of every Costco.

[SPEAKER_14]: Exiting the garden of [SPEAKER_14]: You know, the power, do you like Madman?

[SPEAKER_13]: I love Madman, guys.

[SPEAKER_13]: I can't even explain to you.

[SPEAKER_13]: You hit me up at the right time because a friend of mine just started watching.

[SPEAKER_13]: And I'm like, God, I love this show so much because like, she could tell me like, one little thing that happened.

[SPEAKER_13]: I'm like, I know exactly what scene that is.

[SPEAKER_13]: Do they say this line already?

[SPEAKER_13]: Oh, wow.

[SPEAKER_13]: Oh, wow, wow.

[SPEAKER_13]: So this was really fun to get back into.

[SPEAKER_13]: And it was great because [SPEAKER_13]: season three specifically I think is where the show really like and it's good for it's good from job it's good from job but I think is where it just becomes what it is and what we love about the most and it season three when I do a rewatch and I've done [SPEAKER_13]: I've watched this one episode of television like I watched this episode two times before the podcast Oh damn I actually two point five times because I started watching this second time and I was like I actually do want to take notes So then I would back and watch the first one [SPEAKER_13]: I've just, I've seen this so many times.

[SPEAKER_13]: It's such a layered show.

[SPEAKER_13]: There's so many things I've never seen that I realized that I didn't realize upon previous watches, but yeah.

[SPEAKER_13]: Season three, whatever I do, we watch.

[SPEAKER_13]: I start with season three and then watch all the way through and then I have like one and two as a little like dessert.

[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, yeah, just for funsies.

[SPEAKER_13]: But yeah, that's how thank you.

[SPEAKER_06]: Don't you think it'll be better if they showed the Dix going in?

[SPEAKER_06]: Uh-huh.

[SPEAKER_06]: Allen.

[SPEAKER_14]: Wait, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're [SPEAKER_13]: I want to see it go in and Allen what's your favorite advertisement you don't know I'm going to say that this is going to be a weird answer but I saw this this ad coming under heat recently oh no I kind of wanted to feed I kind of wanted to defend it and little on orthodox this is an ad that plays in front of a movie okay okay so this is the Coca-Cola [SPEAKER_13]: couple where they, it's like, plays right after the Nicole Kidman thing.

[SPEAKER_13]: Yes, it's like they have that they're in the, the concessions and then they're dancing and then they're driving cars and then they're sitting and watching the movie.

[SPEAKER_13]: This is different than the, this is different than the Nicole Kidman thing.

[SPEAKER_13]: Or this is, yeah, it's usually right after it.

[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, man.

[SPEAKER_13]: Or maybe right before it, or I can't remember, but basically like one of the last things you see after the trailers and, um, [SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, people just I saw on X on Twitter recently, people are just getting up on and saying, oh, they're the same.

[SPEAKER_13]: We can't have both the Nicole Kimment and that.

[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, I'm saying, I'm saying it's time to collectively [SPEAKER_13]: Let Nicole Kidman go.

[SPEAKER_14]: Yes.

[SPEAKER_13]: I'm, I'm, I'm just, I agree.

[SPEAKER_13]: It's with me.

[SPEAKER_13]: It's not a mark on her character or her body of work.

[SPEAKER_13]: No, of course not.

[SPEAKER_13]: It's simply time.

[SPEAKER_13]: It's time.

[SPEAKER_06]: It's just, you have to understand that if she doesn't, if she's not shooting a movie or TV show right now, she will die.

[SPEAKER_06]: She's like a shark.

[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, so keep going on.

[SPEAKER_13]: No, and I don't even meet other projects fine.

[SPEAKER_13]: I just mean in this.

[SPEAKER_13]: I don't need to see our DMC anymore.

[SPEAKER_13]: Sure.

[SPEAKER_13]: I definitely don't need to hear people clap or respond to it in any way.

[SPEAKER_06]: No, that's how you know you live in like a city with like hips.

[SPEAKER_06]: I don't I don't have that problem in Fresno, but we also don't have an AMC theater.

[SPEAKER_06]: And I feel like all the complaints about [SPEAKER_02]: What theater do you have?

[SPEAKER_02]: You don't have any impressions?

[SPEAKER_06]: We have a regal as our major chain, which is bar none, probably the worst theater chain ever.

[SPEAKER_06]: They finally stopped doing it, but they had the like movie quotes intro, where it's just people quoting random stuff and like Danny Traho's there.

[SPEAKER_06]: I think for some reason, that one is awful, way worse than the Nicole Kidman one.

[SPEAKER_06]: And we have like one non-regal theater here that I go to, exclusive.

[SPEAKER_13]: that regal theater, they only play that movie where the train comes out of the audience in process.

[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_06]: That's the only movie.

[SPEAKER_06]: We got it in a voting and it's well hit for people running away thinking the train's going to hit him.

[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_06]: It slows him down like a truck, a runaway truck ramp.

[SPEAKER_13]: I'll just imagine that that Don me where he's pensively watching the movies, so I could have said the train going at it, he's just pensively smoking watching the one where the moon, all of a sudden, get something on his eye.

[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_14]: That was a crazy one.

[SPEAKER_14]: Oh no, the cowboy shooting at me, but this isn't a podcast about a cowboy shooting at you.

[SPEAKER_14]: No, this is a madman podcast and we of course cannot start the podcast without first playing the theme song.

[SPEAKER_05]: Mad, you're a self-man.

[SPEAKER_05]: Mad, man.

[SPEAKER_05]: Drunk.

[SPEAKER_04]: You advertise.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Mad, you're a self-man.

[SPEAKER_04]: Mad, you're a self-man.

[SPEAKER_14]: All right, ladies and gentlemen and everyone else, welcome to this podcast, we're going to be talking about from season three episode two of Madman Love Among the Rons and we have it's a bit, what are you doing?

[SPEAKER_14]: No, you fucked me up, okay, you ruined my life.

[SPEAKER_14]: Hmm, you know, I was fine saying it wrong accidentally and then you made me do it into bit.

[SPEAKER_14]: Vince, what's this anopsis?

[SPEAKER_06]: I'm so glad you asked idiot.

[SPEAKER_06]: Dawn is brought in to save the day for a PR campaign, involving the building of a new Madison Square Garden only to have the rug pulled out from under him.

[SPEAKER_06]: At home, Betty argues with her brother over care for their sick father.

[SPEAKER_14]: Yes, yes, that is what happens, but what's more important is what is happening at the time that this episode was set in.

[SPEAKER_06]: That's right, it's a period piece.

[SPEAKER_06]: And we like to put some of that back in with a little something that we call the news machine.

[SPEAKER_09]: I want my ass with Wall Street Journal.

[SPEAKER_09]: There is no big lie.

[SPEAKER_09]: There is no system.

[SPEAKER_09]: The universe is indifferent.

[SPEAKER_06]: That's right, today we're going all the way back to August 23rd, 1963.

[SPEAKER_06]: What a time.

[SPEAKER_14]: What a time.

[SPEAKER_14]: Getting closer and closer to that whole November thing, if you know what I mean.

[SPEAKER_06]: Exactly, 67.

[SPEAKER_06]: I can't do math years ago, headline from the Miami-Herald X-15 pilot source to 66 miles.

[SPEAKER_06]: Edward's Air Force Base, pilot Joe Walker, highest and fastest flyer of winged aircraft, broke his own World Airplane altitude record Thursday by shooting the rocket ship 66 miles into space.

[SPEAKER_06]: His blazing climbs are past the World Altitude Mark he set only a few weeks ago when he gunned the bullet-shaped manned missile 65 miles high.

[SPEAKER_02]: All right, but he's flying into space.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, fly to the space.

[SPEAKER_02]: What do you mean?

[SPEAKER_06]: The four to two year old chief space agency Flyer America's number one test pilot was able to see the curvature of the earth and the outline of the Pacific Coast over a stretch of more than 1500 miles from Mexico.

[SPEAKER_02]: That's not space.

[SPEAKER_02]: That's not space.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, that's not space.

[SPEAKER_02]: He's 66 miles up in the air.

[SPEAKER_14]: What are you talking about?

[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, but he's not in space.

[SPEAKER_14]: He's still a he's still in the sky and can you let us know who's right here am I right in that plane is not in space or is Vince right 65 miles Yeah, yeah 66 miles 66 miles I mean that that seems [SPEAKER_13]: That seems pretty up up there.

[SPEAKER_14]: It's up there, but I mean, unless you are in on breaking orbit, is that I guess is not quite.

[SPEAKER_14]: I think I believe the question is, it's he on the moon.

[SPEAKER_06]: He's not on the moon.

[SPEAKER_14]: Well, then I was not in space.

[SPEAKER_13]: Is this farther than a satellite?

[SPEAKER_06]: Elon and Bezos have been that's kind of what I know or yeah, or if Shattner if William Shattner How far did he go?

[SPEAKER_06]: I think Shattner went up there and he was just like space is lonely I thought about my death.

[SPEAKER_06]: I didn't like it Yeah, that's why I never wanted to go space.

[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, no spaces bad people forget that about space [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, post script.

[SPEAKER_06]: Walker was killed June 8th, 1966 when his F-104 Starfighter Chase aircraft collided with the North American XB-70 Valkyrie at the altitude of about 25,000 feet.

[SPEAKER_06]: Walker's Starfighter was one of five aircraft in a tight formation for a general electric publicity photo when his F-104 was lifted into contact with the XB-70's right wing tip.

[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_14]: So he died doing advertising that's amazing and he was killed by the right wing Typical yeah [SPEAKER_14]: Sorry, we got a lot of other martyrs.

[SPEAKER_14]: We had a little political in this book.

[SPEAKER_13]: So crazy that all like back then we were just so space race.

[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, yeah, it's just like, what did what did a man do in a plane today?

[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, this man we're we're like, we're like, higher and higher.

[SPEAKER_06]: We got to go to the moon and we did it in 1969 and then we're like, All right, we're good.

[SPEAKER_06]: We don't have to do any more space stuff from now on.

[SPEAKER_14]: Well, we did a little more space stuff and we're like, well, we can't, we can't stop flying into space until we kill an elementary school teacher.

[SPEAKER_14]: And then finally, they were able to achieve that with the Columbia.

[SPEAKER_14]: Some say disaster, I say celebration, I say achievement, and then the Challenger.

[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, they're both, they both exploded.

[SPEAKER_06]: Wait, what happened to the Columbia?

[SPEAKER_06]: And that one exploded too, but the challenger had the first school teacher on board.

[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, the challenger.

[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_14]: Oh, I don't, I don't, I read a book about the challenger.

[SPEAKER_06]: Six months ago, I should remember this, but this is crazy.

[SPEAKER_13]: It was a Dodge Challenger.

[SPEAKER_06]: It was a C, okay.

[SPEAKER_06]: It was a Dodge Challenger.

[SPEAKER_06]: They shouldn't have let Tyrese Gibson drive that.

[SPEAKER_06]: What did the other guy was other rapper?

[SPEAKER_06]: That's when I was trying to remember.

[SPEAKER_06]: I'm a little surprised, right?

[SPEAKER_06]: A little crazy.

[SPEAKER_06]: A little crazy.

[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_06]: That was fun though.

[SPEAKER_06]: It's a nice stutter.

[SPEAKER_06]: I was trying to remember a little.

[SPEAKER_14]: No, it was fun though.

[SPEAKER_14]: It was fun.

[SPEAKER_14]: I knew what you meant because I was like, okay, he's got fast and furious confusion.

[SPEAKER_06]: But no, Tyreys was in the car as just a rank ludicrous was driving Yeah, yeah, remember actually they were both in the car together Anyway August 23rd, 1963 another headline minor's lifeline misses [SPEAKER_06]: A third try at drilling in escape hole for the three trapped miners was ordered Thursday after the second one failed just as it seemed certain to succeed Well certainly a fucking you know a janitor custodian will have the keys [SPEAKER_14]: to the mine.

[SPEAKER_06]: It's all mine or my, I thought you meant like trapped underage children.

[SPEAKER_06]: All right, Kendrick Lamar.

[SPEAKER_06]: I'm having undergrown.

[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, you are undontered rescue crews wield the giant drilling rig.

[SPEAKER_06]: As tall as a 10 story building into position for again, driving a 12-inch bit toward an underground pocket about 14 feet long and nine feet wide.

[SPEAKER_06]: I just know he will come out of this alive.

[SPEAKER_06]: Those were the words of Mrs.

Anna Fellen, whose husband David 58 has been trapped under more than 300 feet, underground with Henry Throne, 28, and Lewis Bova, 42 for 10 days.

[SPEAKER_06]: Do you have an update on?

[SPEAKER_14]: I do.

[SPEAKER_14]: I do.

[SPEAKER_14]: Okay, so just to be clear, wife said a bit you a million dollars.

[SPEAKER_14]: He he lives or something along those lines, right?

[SPEAKER_06]: She said yes.

[SPEAKER_06]: She said, she said, I just know he will, I just know he will come out of the saliva.

[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[SPEAKER_06]: Okay, she was, she was right.

[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, this is wife.

[SPEAKER_06]: This is about the Shepton mind disaster was one of the first rescues of trapped miners accomplished by raising them through holes board through solid rock and invent that grip the world's [SPEAKER_06]: August 1963.

[SPEAKER_14]: I'm sorry, what is like, what are the first rescues of mine?

[SPEAKER_14]: It's like, well, usually we just go, well, I'm sure And I run out of oxygen.

[SPEAKER_14]: Well, yeah on the bright side free grave Not toiously progressive employers the mining companies [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, the roof of the Shepton anthracite coal mine collapsed August 13 with three minors Inside trapped 300 feet below ground a small bore hole was drilled from the surface and an attempt to contact the minors After several days a bore hole successfully reached a mine [SPEAKER_06]: and revealed that two of the miners Henry Throne and David Fellan had survived in a small narrow chamber.

[SPEAKER_06]: Wow.

[SPEAKER_06]: Rescueers dropped provisions to the miners and subsequent larger bore holes.

[SPEAKER_06]: Matt's mom's ears are burning.

[SPEAKER_03]: Alright mate.

[SPEAKER_06]: Uh, until the final large hole bored with the existence.

[SPEAKER_06]: Billionaire Howard Hughes, and the two surviving boys got in there.

[SPEAKER_14]: Howard Hughes is in the mix.

[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_06]: Our Billionaire just called one of the guys who drilled them out of the pedophile.

[SPEAKER_06]: You just called them a pedophile.

[SPEAKER_06]: This time he actually helped.

[SPEAKER_06]: Anyway, one of the guys did died.

[SPEAKER_06]: guy with the ethnic name surprise surprise surprise surprise surprise surprise were they probably you know the two white guys were like well he can't live there is someone did write a song implying that they killed an eighth the other one apparently well really yeah in 1971 the buoys recorded a hit single Timothy about three minutes trapped underground due to a cave in with only two of them surviving in a strong strong implication they survived by cannibalizing the third [SPEAKER_14]: Damn, that's crazy.

[SPEAKER_14]: How do you just eat a raw guy?

[SPEAKER_14]: Well, you have to choke him out first.

[SPEAKER_06]: All right.

[SPEAKER_06]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_06]: Oh well, I guess so that's what the news now you got more news now we got a couple short ones Okay, these will really situate you in time will North represent JFK rights push Republican strategists are beginning to feel that northern reaction to President Kennedy's position on civil rights may cut deeply into his big city backing in the 1964 election [SPEAKER_06]: It's not something that he cared to discuss publicly, but these strategies said private white resentment against Negro demands for speedy equality on multiple fronts, including housing, may cost Kennedy votes in the areas where they credit him with a winning of the 1960 election.

[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, has never heard that one before, you know?

[SPEAKER_06]: Never heard it.

[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, no.

[SPEAKER_15]: It's going to be a backlash, it does the bulls.

[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, we can't.

[SPEAKER_14]: We got to be very careful about giving rights.

[SPEAKER_13]: It's a slippery slope as per a Cooper would say.

[SPEAKER_13]: That's right.

[SPEAKER_14]: It is a slippery slope read the fountain head Read Atlas shrugged Yeah, and finally how is hugged?

[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, you know what why don't we start hugging Atlas?

[SPEAKER_14]: All right, Iron Rand.

[SPEAKER_06]: You fucking try because Nail is right pussy Bitch So you know Ernestness is the new punk rocker think that's right.

[SPEAKER_06]: That's right No, Ernestness comes to jail [SPEAKER_06]: Ernest Nesco's to see BGVs.

[SPEAKER_06]: Finally, this is just a short bit about the Smiling Beauty, a 17-year-old Camille Bonano of Newark, who was chosen Miss Italian American from more than 70 contestants in a pageant at Palisades of Music Park in Cliffside Park, New Jersey.

[SPEAKER_06]: Miss Italian American yep 17-year-old from Newark Camila banana very specific but not a standard model 36 23 36 I know just want to win extra measure all the 17-year-olds [SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, that's uh, it's crazy that they didn't miss it out.

[SPEAKER_14]: What a dish.

[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, come up.

[SPEAKER_14]: Also, a banana, that's one of the crime families, isn't it?

[SPEAKER_14]: Of course, yeah, it's one of the five, they probably had the fixin.

[SPEAKER_06]: It's one of the five families, the one of the five boroughs of New York.

[SPEAKER_06]: They're like the five fingers.

[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, the Bronx, Manhattan, Staten Island, Brooklyn and Queens, and I can close them and they make a fist.

[SPEAKER_06]: What is it that John Travolta says in the gotty movie?

[SPEAKER_14]: That's basically what it is.

[SPEAKER_14]: What do you got when you put them together?

[SPEAKER_14]: That's a fist.

[SPEAKER_14]: And what do you got when you got a fist?

[SPEAKER_14]: Something to put in Vince's mom's ass.

[SPEAKER_14]: And what do you got when you got Vince's mom's a pig?

[SPEAKER_14]: When you do with a pig, you eat it.

[SPEAKER_14]: All right.

[SPEAKER_14]: Well, so that's...

[SPEAKER_14]: So that's what he said up and wrestle it to the ground.

[SPEAKER_14]: You make it bore a hole and save some mine as speaking of mine as my 17 year old daughter sexy So that is then she's gonna 36 inch bust pretty standard for as far as models go.

[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, she got median titties [SPEAKER_14]: So, we are talking about this episode, and I have a little bit of a Draper D story that I'll play for you, and it won't be much, and I'm just gonna find a spot in the middle to play it, so just hear a little bit of it.

[SPEAKER_14]: I had to molest me, and now my brother's taking him back to my house to figure shit out.

[SPEAKER_14]: My daddy's back, can he's coming with my brother?

[SPEAKER_14]: He's all right, he's all right, he's all right, he's all right, he's all right, he's all right, he's all right, he's all right, he's all right, he's all right, he's all right, he's all right, he's all right, he's all right, he's all right, he's all right, he's all right, he's all right, he's all right, he's all right, he's all right, he's all right, he's all right, he's all right, he's all right, he's all right, he's all right, he's all right, he's all right, he's all right, he's all right, he's all right, he's all right, he's all right, he's all right, he's all right, he's all right, he's all right, he's all right, he's all right, he's all right, he's all [SPEAKER_14]: You can hear the whole song at the end, that is from 1963 and of course that's why I chose it and It took a long time to record it.

[SPEAKER_14]: So let's let you guys listen to that at the end, but now let's talk about this episode Vince [SPEAKER_06]: uh general thoughts tell me about love among the ruins um uh this is a downer asset episode in which Betty's increasingly seen now father becomes a metaphor for mid-century America's increasingly feckless ruling class.

[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, Sean and Betty see that the masters of the universe, they work so hard to emulate, have turned into saddled men, paralleling dawns disillusionment with Roger Sterling, paralleling Peggy's disillusionment with Dawn further underpinned with a subplot about tearing down Penn Station in the name of progress.

[SPEAKER_06]: the episode is definitely doing an art.

[SPEAKER_06]: I kind of got caught up in the confusing family dynamics between Betty and her brother and in the downerness of dementia plots in general.

[SPEAKER_06]: I was much more interested in the Madison Square Garden guys and Peggy becoming the throat goat of Brooklyn.

[SPEAKER_14]: All right, fair enough.

[SPEAKER_14]: Allen, general thoughts on this episode.

[SPEAKER_14]: You know, [SPEAKER_13]: Um, yeah, I guess I don't, I've tried, I took like sort of line by line notes, but I, you know, this, this to me kind of had the perfect mix of everything it had, it had the office stuff and the, um, [SPEAKER_13]: Oh, and then the maple.

[SPEAKER_13]: I mean, it was fun to watch Don, like this is a great Don episode because he's he's he's not completely out of control yet like like his [SPEAKER_13]: he's kind of holding it together this time.

[SPEAKER_06]: He's just pissed off the whole time.

[SPEAKER_13]: He's just mad at the whole time, but he's like, and it could have, there's like this one hinge point where like he goes and hangs his coat bag down or he just keeps it in the room.

[SPEAKER_13]: Where if he leaves that room with Betty, he's never coming back in the, yeah, for the episode and if he stays, he stays.

[SPEAKER_13]: But yeah, I was just pretty, and I always like watching these two [SPEAKER_13]: I love Kinsey.

[SPEAKER_13]: Kinsey is such a great character.

[SPEAKER_13]: And especially the longer that I work in this, like, you know, it's not exactly what they do, but we're working in this sort of world.

[SPEAKER_13]: It's like, oh my god, the Kinsey's of this world, they're so funny.

[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_06]: But I always say, it's like, yes, I go ahead.

[SPEAKER_13]: And this is also, I'm like a huge Pete fan, and this is a real like Pete starting to kind of figure out how things work and lock things together.

[SPEAKER_13]: And just a lot of like, as someone that sees it and know where it's all going to, there's the obvious big nod to like, [SPEAKER_13]: of doomed things to come, giving the wedding date for Roger for what's your name.

[SPEAKER_13]: But then there's a lot of such a wedding date.

[SPEAKER_14]: Margaret's getting married and she doesn't want Jane.

[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, even the actual date of the date of the year.

[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_13]: It was the 23rd.

[SPEAKER_13]: It's when it was the JFK assassin.

[SPEAKER_06]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_06]: So yeah.

[SPEAKER_13]: That's right.

[SPEAKER_13]: Not a ruined episode.

[SPEAKER_13]: You're going to have a couple.

[SPEAKER_14]: There's no spoilers on the show because there's no such thing as spoiling a show because the show's been out for 20 years.

[SPEAKER_14]: Jeff Kagan shot.

[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, but there are just all these little things that it's like, I mean, God, like, just sell and just seeing like, seeing the lane price of it all and the fact they're still under the British companies, Matt Mantle, just so many, I just every time I watch this show, I'm just like, and this episode specifically is just like, what a layered, dense, [SPEAKER_13]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_13]: He saw work.

[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, he's like the Paul Kinsey's and Pete's kind of inherited the world like like there's other two main types of like management that we have in a way.

[SPEAKER_14]: I guess it's like Paul Kinsey though it's it's harder to say because of like Paul Kinsey feels like a man [SPEAKER_14]: Before his time a type of guy.

[SPEAKER_14]: I mean, I'm sure he's a 60's guy.

[SPEAKER_14]: That's like this is the archetype of a of a whiny 60's guy who's who's living with this like oh I I'm starting to develop these sort of like grand principles, but I also I really like job [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, so I feel like the Paul Kinsey's of the world became middle managers and the elite, the peats beat like you have your e-lons and baselesses who are basically Pete were there like not cool and they will never stop punishing the world for not admitting that they're cool and then you have your like middle management types like [SPEAKER_06]: Kinsey who sort of, they have, they have principles or claim to, but then as soon as push comes to shove, it's like, no, I will, I will lick the boot.

[SPEAKER_06]: Yes, they check, yeah.

[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, it's just, Kinsey just doesn't, like there's that just one exchange when what our pizza is like, do you even listen to yourself?

[SPEAKER_13]: It's like, yeah.

[SPEAKER_13]: He just doesn't get what he does and how it all works.

[SPEAKER_13]: And there's some of that with Peggy too.

[SPEAKER_13]: I mean, Dawn and Peggy have that combo later, but um, [SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, I feel like Paul is in a lot of ways similar to Pete in that they both kind of look at Dawn and idolize his abilities but do not understand how to emulate them and like Pete almost doesn't even try he like in a way understands that like what his skill set is is being a blue blood [SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, like he understands that what he brings to the table is like, you know, I know you're comfortable working with a white man, you know, like, oh, a wasp who has family connections or whatever, where is Paul looks at [SPEAKER_14]: like Don and thinks he can do what Don does but he doesn't know what Don does and so his attempts at trying it like the scene with Madison Square Garden is like genius because he is [SPEAKER_14]: Clearly, in his feelings about working with these guys who are trying to destroy New York, in his mind.

[SPEAKER_06]: Well, they both make the mistake of thinking that Don's persona is him being comfortable with himself and not just an act that he does.

[SPEAKER_14]: Right, yes, yes, yes, what they're it's like when people attempt to do stand up because they watched like Louis C.

K when there was like, you know, like the early in like the 2011's right or the 2010's people would watch Louis and they'd be like, oh, I see what stand up is this when you're just talking [SPEAKER_14]: and they wouldn't understand the like no he's like those are all written jokes you just can't tell like they don't see the act uh and then of course Louis would later go on a masturbating front of people but this is a point from before then don't masturbate in front people point being that like they see dawn and let's see [SPEAKER_14]: force you to at gunpoint right exactly and then you have to and that's why I smoked crack because someone put a gun to my yeah kill my family yeah so yeah I feel like they see dawn and they they instead of understanding what he's doing they're falling for his act in the same way that they think that he's uh [SPEAKER_14]: he's it's expressing some inner conviction right as I put into some high or higher principle and now just being the embodiment of whatever the client wants to hear right he's a he's just uh he's a human stem cell and he understands how to like uh manipulate people by you know he can be next to anyone and immediately kind of like [SPEAKER_14]: Uh, be like, hey, you've known me your whole life.

[SPEAKER_14]: That's the whole thing.

[SPEAKER_13]: Well, it's kind of funny too, because like, Don and Kenzie, like, they start, like, at the same point, basically, with like, when they're talking to the guy, well, he gives him more of the formal boxing, but it's just like, where they wind up, it's like, okay, that's why Don's Don and that's like, yes, it's like, it's like, Kenzie starts off trying to neg a girl because he saw Don do it.

[SPEAKER_06]: Right.

[SPEAKER_06]: Instead of like, instead of it working, he just starts crying and calling [SPEAKER_14]: Exactly, you want to leave me stupid bitch.

[SPEAKER_06]: So I have I had the Pete and Paul so before we get to that Okay, can we talk about the very first scene it opens and I've seen this episode two or three times now And every time I saw him done it every time I see this episode it makes me want to go back and watch the movie Bye-bye birdie.

[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, yeah, it was like in my head.

[SPEAKER_06]: I'm like there's no way this movie can be as terrible as what this scene looks Right, yes, because it's like as far as I can tell [SPEAKER_06]: by by birdie was a movie that you went to because you were really fucking horny and you might see like and Margaret's like nipples through or shirt and otherwise seems to have no redeeming qualities it's just one of those like one of the sixties pop culture that is so aggressively corny and does not translate it's one of those classic like [SPEAKER_13]: This is back in the day where I mean, we've always been recycling IP.

[SPEAKER_13]: It was just right.

[SPEAKER_13]: Sure.

[SPEAKER_13]: That was a huge Broadway hit.

[SPEAKER_13]: So yeah, all right.

[SPEAKER_13]: Let's put it on the movies.

[SPEAKER_14]: Right.

[SPEAKER_14]: Right.

[SPEAKER_14]: The weird thing about by by birdie to me is always been that the music is is terrible.

[SPEAKER_14]: It's like, and I, I am not like, [SPEAKER_14]: by any stretch like a huge musical theater fan.

[SPEAKER_14]: I wouldn't say that, but I like, but I like, no, but I like musical work.

[SPEAKER_14]: No, listen, listen, I actually have seen a lot of musical theater and do enjoy quite a lot of it compared to like, you know, let's say Vince.

[SPEAKER_14]: Sometimes not Jewish.

[SPEAKER_14]: Right.

[SPEAKER_14]: Exactly, well, it's like, I mean, all listen, all Jews are born with the extra bone and our body that really loves when people sing and we can jump really high and do our taxes good.

[SPEAKER_14]: But like it is, it's, it's just a bad musical.

[SPEAKER_14]: Like the music is is horrible.

[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, that's what I'm getting from scene.

[SPEAKER_06]: I was like, what is this song?

[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, it's just it's weird watching a room full of people enjoy and I credit to the acting in this When they play the opening scene first at the beginning, you know, of the show, they play the opening scene to buy my birdie and everyone's watching it and like taking it in [SPEAKER_14]: and then there's a scene where Dawn is watching it as well and he has like feelings about it and and it's just one of those things where it's like you gotta give credit because I'm watching it going like [SPEAKER_14]: How do you not watch this and go?

[SPEAKER_14]: Oh my god the sucks.

[SPEAKER_06]: No, I think I think that's what Peggy is there for it's it's kind of there to show you that yes You have to be dangerously horny otherwise We're not appreciated this and if you're a Sorry if you're Peggy she's just like yeah, it's like a 25 real woman acting 14.

[SPEAKER_06]: It's very strange [SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, I think I think the big problem with it is the title.

[SPEAKER_13]: I don't think it should be cut by by Bertie.

[SPEAKER_13]: I think should be called Hello and Margaret.

[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_14]: Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, [SPEAKER_14]: and Margaret, there's something there.

[SPEAKER_13]: So that kind when it goes to Don and he's crying watching it later in the show, that made me laugh big, huge, every time I watch it.

[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, it's so funny.

[SPEAKER_14]: So yeah, that opening scene is great and we'll start there because it's where the show starts.

[SPEAKER_14]: As soon as it's done, my favorite part is you hear Salgo.

[SPEAKER_14]: Aww.

[SPEAKER_14]: because that wants to keep watching it.

[SPEAKER_14]: And so we find out that there's this pitch that they're all getting ready for.

[SPEAKER_14]: Pepsi wants this scene frame for frame for a commercial for their new [SPEAKER_14]: Ladies weight loss drink.

[SPEAKER_14]: It's a diet soda called patio and they're all talking about it and want to like the major themes of the like Betty Ark in this is she's doing the thing where she is [SPEAKER_14]: annoyed that products that are marketed for women are, you know, like, almost geared towards men in some way.

[SPEAKER_06]: I think what it comes down to is that she is still laboring under the delusion that an advertising pitch is meant for the customer and not for the client.

[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, totally.

[SPEAKER_14]: And they, they have this really.

[SPEAKER_14]: So it's a great scene where immediately Harry Crane, who is now, you know, just immediately starting in season three, he's like full on gross boy.

[SPEAKER_06]: And he wants to go to the casting and, you know, he's another, he's another Elon type, you know, he rose to the top and immediately it was like, you know, had this false sense of cool.

[SPEAKER_14]: Yes, and I have that scene, I love it.

[SPEAKER_08]: I understand why.

[SPEAKER_08]: You like this, but it's not for you.

[SPEAKER_08]: I'm the one who'd be buying patio.

[SPEAKER_09]: You're not fat anymore.

[SPEAKER_08]: Thank you.

[SPEAKER_08]: Is it just a knockoff?

[SPEAKER_08]: Are we allowed to make fun of it at least?

[SPEAKER_09]: She's fun and sexy, don't be approved.

[SPEAKER_08]: Would you say that to me?

[SPEAKER_00]: It's sexy and it's what they want.

[SPEAKER_06]: Can you explain to me that you say that to me like I've ruined it four times I still don't know what she's talking about.

[SPEAKER_13]: I don't.

[SPEAKER_13]: It's got to be the first part.

[SPEAKER_14]: Right, would you would you say it sexy whatever she sexy and yeah, it's she's on fun fun and sexy full of calm whatever and then what does that mean would you say that to me she just did say that to her.

[SPEAKER_06]: I think it it.

[SPEAKER_14]: what you say that about me am i those things uh...

like uh...

i i can't see it's pretty nerve-self in the and that makes sense but if you would just change the word to about out of known what the fuck she was talking about [SPEAKER_14]: Well, she's a dizzy-day.

[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, exactly.

[SPEAKER_14]: And it kind of falls in, period.

[SPEAKER_14]: Oh, right.

[SPEAKER_14]: It falls in with the theme, the theme that Peggy is dealing with throughout, which is like she feels disconnected from the youth, because she is young, [SPEAKER_14]: And yet she feels old.

[SPEAKER_14]: She feels like she's not a part of this like young girl culture like Like she's not like other girls.

[SPEAKER_14]: She's not like other girls.

[SPEAKER_14]: She's not like other girls.

[SPEAKER_14]: She milly Bobby Brown herself Yeah, I don't know what you mean, but yeah, she's texting Drake.

[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, she's texting Drake too much I just saw a picture over today and she looks she's like 21 but she's somehow looks like at 37 year old woman [SPEAKER_06]: Well, you know, maybe because she's like, you know, bad looking or whatever.

[SPEAKER_06]: It's just that's all like styling choices.

[SPEAKER_14]: Sure.

[SPEAKER_14]: Sure.

[SPEAKER_14]: I think it's like with Peggy, she's grown up a lot.

[SPEAKER_14]: Uh, and she's carrying a lot of like baggage.

[SPEAKER_14]: So like for her, she doesn't have a carefree young feeling to her.

[SPEAKER_14]: And so she's like spends this episode kind of, uh, [SPEAKER_14]: you know uh feeling resentment and you know a kind of covetous of the way that people are able to kind of use their sexuality and it's not something she has fully really done yet um and uh so i think part of this was just her looking at Anne Margaret you know acting 14 and being yeah.

[SPEAKER_14]: And kind of like this is what you want yeah being mad like, you know, you know So this is what guys want some girl who is who's never had an abortion Some girls never had to give up their child like for her.

[SPEAKER_14]: This is, you know, she feels what she's trapped between [SPEAKER_06]: she can't be in the boy's club of the other copywriters and I can't really be like the girl the girl.

[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, not without like being a secretary, you know, so she's she's stuck.

[SPEAKER_06]: She had to turn into a boy in order to, you know, she had to be get them to treat her like a man in order to get her job this.

[SPEAKER_06]: Right.

[SPEAKER_14]: And now she's treated like a man, but not really.

[SPEAKER_14]: She's treated like a girl [SPEAKER_13]: And what what you don't hear on that clip though is Sal's look after you're not fat anymore.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_13]: He has such a look of like, like he like he he's like registering it.

[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_13]: And then what I I also love after that, what Peggy says is clients don't always know what's best.

[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_13]: And that is like that is the nicest version of that sentiment I've ever heard [SPEAKER_14]: it's true I mean you know clients are our fucking idiots and you see in the show countless examples of that clients truly not knowing like going to pay you know thousands of pounds thousands of dollars for experts opinions on this and yet ignoring that advice and being like well here's my idea it's like well you don't have an idea that's why you're paying money for it [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I mean, I I've said it before, but I watched that there was like a brief uh reality show called the pitch where it was like two ad agencies putting together a pitch for a product and I think I watched like three episodes of it and then I stopped after I realized that the client picks like by far the worst pitch and [SPEAKER_06]: every single time.

[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, and you just go crazy.

[SPEAKER_14]: And it's funny because Betty is, sorry, Betty.

[SPEAKER_14]: Peggy is like, she's right about a lot of the things that she is saying, save for the stuff about like not understanding how advertising works, but like things like, [SPEAKER_14]: Guys this product is it's never gonna work out.

[SPEAKER_14]: It's called patio It's a shit man.

[SPEAKER_06]: And it dawns like yeah, but they're stupid and we take their money like that's right exactly You're forgetting what I like the way he says that which is that like leave some tools in your toolbox like Yeah, this doesn't need to be good.

[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, and yeah, that that is a really great scene in which Dawn kind of just tells her [SPEAKER_14]: Like, how it is, it's really great here.

[SPEAKER_09]: I'm young and excited and desperate for a man.

[SPEAKER_08]: I don't mind fantasies, but shouldn't it be a female one?

[SPEAKER_09]: Peggy, I know you understand how this works.

[SPEAKER_09]: Men want her, women want to be her.

[SPEAKER_08]: Even if that's true.

[SPEAKER_09]: It is, sorry if that makes you uncomfortable.

[SPEAKER_08]: Well, you know if we were making a movie or a play, we'd be embarrassed to do this.

[SPEAKER_08]: It's funny.

[SPEAKER_09]: You're not an artist, Peggy.

[SPEAKER_09]: You saw the problems, at least some tools in your toolbox.

[SPEAKER_06]: I think this is this is also Matthew Weeners this is soprano's lineage is showing here because I feel like a lot of the third season is like a corrective just in case that you thought [SPEAKER_06]: Don Draper was actually like super cool admin right like we're gonna remind you Every so often that like the ad business does not run on Genius it doesn't you know you're not making actual magic you were just baby sitting a client [SPEAKER_13]: yes oh yeah i mean and when when dawn reveals his most true self you know later on it's like the worst thing he ever did you know you know so he fucked everybody but um yeah that yeah that's um oh fuck i was gonna say something but i i can't remember anyway [SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, I mean, like he is telling her something that I think a lot of people, you know, with jobs in creative industries, it's always like you're always looking for like, well, what's something that is like partially creative that also pays, you know, so that I'm not like just [SPEAKER_14]: doing data entry and like you know I want to I want to create a job and he is kind of like taking I don't know he's making her see the reality in the situation which because she's like well if this were a play and he's like it's not a play it's a fucking we're writing a pitch for an ad for a product that we know is not going to work out but we hope to manipulate them [SPEAKER_13]: like it's also it's like it's it's all in service of getting Pepsi like they even have it they have a sort of what you would call in the ferris or ulterior I guess most yes but in that moment that that is interesting it's like Don it that you know he wildly vacilates with Peggy between [SPEAKER_13]: being a truly like, um, benevolent mentor and like he I mean literally plucked her up and out like you know that's that's amazing and then this is more of a like he's not being then he'll be like a total total jerk like a mean and not constructive anything.

[SPEAKER_13]: This is like pretty squarely in the middle of like harsh truth delivered in a pretty like all right way and it seemed like she absorbed it.

[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, well, she says her boss is a, I guess he has to absorb it, but she has a brief pushback where she like she says he's a jerk, but you know deep down.

[SPEAKER_06]: She knows that he's kind of right.

[SPEAKER_06]: Just a trivia note.

[SPEAKER_06]: You guys want to know the flavors of patio that.

[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, my god.

[SPEAKER_13]: Yes, it's like an orange one, right?

[SPEAKER_06]: So patio came out in 1963, just like they show the became diepepsie in 1964, the variants were root beer, orange, imitation grape, imitation strawberry.

[SPEAKER_06]: I like that nobody feels the need to say imitation anymore.

[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, wait.

[SPEAKER_14]: Well why imitation though is but orange.

[SPEAKER_06]: No, not imitation or orange.

[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, that is interesting.

[SPEAKER_06]: Dry ginger ale, dry club soda, dry tonic water, diet, cola and red cherry.

[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, I mean, all those flavors are bomb.

[SPEAKER_06]: So it is interesting that Red Cherry and Orange get the genuine treatment, but Great been strawberry.

[SPEAKER_06]: I guess people were too familiar with grapes and strawberries.

[SPEAKER_13]: It's weird now that the only time you do hear a mutation is with crab.

[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, that's the only time you hear it.

[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, it's not is weird.

[SPEAKER_14]: I mean, yeah, I guess because now if it's not imitation cheese, it's vegan cheese, you know?

[SPEAKER_13]: Matthew, we interstit right to show about that.

[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, you know what?

[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, you could call it sad men because we want to choose.

[SPEAKER_06]: I would love to see like a modern update of Madman that explains how we got an actual mouth.

[SPEAKER_06]: Have you guys seen mouth in the store?

[SPEAKER_06]: the fuck is malk it's like a oat milk or something like that it's like a it's a non-dairy milk and okay i'm pretty sure they took it straight from that simpsons episode oh my god they actually called it malk yeah they called it malk good for them you know interesting they understand that kids these days like the simpsons oh shit fuck [SPEAKER_14]: Hey, Brent.

[SPEAKER_10]: Hey, it's me, one of those kids who lives the Simpsons.

[SPEAKER_10]: Hey, cool.

[SPEAKER_10]: Hey, I think we have any more guys.

[SPEAKER_10]: I am two for yourself.

[SPEAKER_10]: I'm show young.

[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_10]: And that's why I love ads, very impressionable.

[SPEAKER_10]: And that's why I'm breaking in here to insist that we play some ads.

[SPEAKER_14]: All right, right.

[SPEAKER_14]: You're the man.

[SPEAKER_14]: I Karamba.

[SPEAKER_14]: It's time for us to eat our shorts, man, and listen to some ads Fuck, I can't think of another Simpsons under Tever and proud of it.

[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, that's it.

[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, we'll be right back [SPEAKER_06]: and we're back as matters of a man here with guest Ellen Strickland will you what's up dog why's that good at yeah so pick one of the best bits and demolition man by the way is that everything's a Taco Bell that's great everybody acknowledges that okay another great bit is that when you play the oldy station on the radio it's just old commercial jingles [SPEAKER_14]: Oh, that's hilarious.

[SPEAKER_14]: I don't even remember that.

[SPEAKER_06]: I love that.

[SPEAKER_06]: It's like, yeah, they sing oldies and it's like, I'm Oscar, Oscar Meyer, Weiner, and stuff.

[SPEAKER_14]: Oh, that's awesome.

[SPEAKER_14]: I feel like that's, um, that's almost like an idiocracy bit.

[SPEAKER_06]: It is, it's Jen X's idiocracy.

[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_06]: It's very, yeah.

[SPEAKER_14]: That's I like that um I feel like Gen X is a critique of capitalism only went so far as What commercial stupid right yeah they didn't they didn't think about the fact that everything was ad yeah they they they they they they they they they're only problem with capitalism is it was it was it was to push you in fact the ads were too infantly it was two in your face yeah yeah yeah [SPEAKER_14]: So if you're going to manipulate me, at least do it, you know, like with some ripped jeans on with some ripped jeans.

[SPEAKER_14]: Um, but yeah, continuing on with what's happening with Peggy throughout this episode.

[SPEAKER_14]: Um, she, yeah, she's feeling, she's feeling bad that, you know, she is not one of the fun girls.

[SPEAKER_14]: She's watching Joan at one point.

[SPEAKER_14]: She goes up to like Joan in the, like, as they're waiting for the elevator.

[SPEAKER_14]: Um, and I feel like Joan is just not interested in, like, I think Peggy just wants to talk some shit.

[SPEAKER_14]: Do you guys remember that scene?

[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_14]: And for some reason, Joan is not giving her the time of day and yeah, so then like at some point Peggy sees Joan just like talking to a bunch of clients who are there for whatever reason and she's watching from afar and feeling just like kind of jealous at watching her being able to kind of like.

[SPEAKER_14]: um, use ditsy sexiness in order to like charm them.

[SPEAKER_14]: And so later you watch her go out, um, you know, to, well, first you see her in brushing her hair in the mirror.

[SPEAKER_14]: And she starts singing the bye-bye birdie song.

[SPEAKER_14]: And it's one of the, it's kind of sweet.

[SPEAKER_14]: Like I, I forget, you know, like, [SPEAKER_14]: It's, I don't know, there's something about Peggy's character that you're like, oh, you know, she just feels like she's so hopeless that you just love her, you know what I mean?

[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, I just wrote, I typed out Peggy was so real for doing.

[SPEAKER_06]: So Mike confusion about this part is she goes out, you know, she goes out to the bar She goes to a bar on a whim, which is called by the way.

[SPEAKER_13]: Oh, I don't know.

[SPEAKER_13]: That's sort of shut.

[SPEAKER_13]: Call calls is downtown LA famous sandwich.

[SPEAKER_13]: Oh, really?

[SPEAKER_13]: Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, [SPEAKER_13]: No, I'm pretty sure I'm having a shot in LA.

[SPEAKER_13]: Oh, yeah, that sucks.

[SPEAKER_13]: That sucks.

[SPEAKER_13]: That sucks.

[SPEAKER_15]: The water.

[SPEAKER_15]: Is he walking here?

[SPEAKER_15]: Yeah, good thing.

[SPEAKER_15]: Good.

[SPEAKER_15]: And bagels.

[SPEAKER_06]: But so Peggy takes this guy home.

[SPEAKER_06]: This college dumbass takes a bite of his burger.

[SPEAKER_06]: And he's like, wow, this chick fucked.

[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_06]: She goes home with them and so my confusion was like we saw Peggy getting on the pill earlier in the show, right?

[SPEAKER_06]: Like what what happened between then and now?

[SPEAKER_14]: You mean why didn't she want to do raw doggy?

[SPEAKER_14]: Why didn't she put why didn't she give it up for this?

[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, yeah, it's 1963 dude.

[SPEAKER_06]: This is like free.

[SPEAKER_06]: This is pre-aids.

[SPEAKER_06]: I don't think like [SPEAKER_13]: I don't think that's really what she was looking for when she went out that night.

[SPEAKER_13]: I think maybe it was what she was looking for, but when it came to it, because she clearly was not having a good time.

[SPEAKER_13]: Even when she was pretending to have a good time at the bar.

[SPEAKER_13]: Sure.

[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_06]: I don't know.

[SPEAKER_06]: I feel like she, I thought she kind of did do the sex just for...

[SPEAKER_06]: I think it was to prove something to herself.

[SPEAKER_06]: Yes, sure.

[SPEAKER_06]: So why she didn't just do the whole thing there because I thought her- I thought her concern was- I like pregnant again.

[SPEAKER_14]: I like her, you're mad.

[SPEAKER_14]: You're like- I mean, she's already on the pill.

[SPEAKER_14]: What the fuck?

[SPEAKER_06]: I don't know, I didn't- I didn't- I don't mean she already took this guy home.

[SPEAKER_13]: And- Yeah, I'm already here!

[SPEAKER_13]: Clearly from the way she's acting the whole episode, she's probably on her period.

[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, it's probably on the other side.

[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_06]: No, I mean, because I feel like she's like, we can do other stuff, but I feel like in 1963, that would have been like, oh, you mean other stuff that's like way crazy or than having regular sex?

[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, what is other stuff in 1963?

[SPEAKER_14]: It's like, second, I just think the guy was such a debt, like I'm sure.

[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, I think that when he said he didn't have a condom, [SPEAKER_14]: She a Trojan.

[SPEAKER_14]: She called the Trojan that she realized, yeah, I think she just didn't want to Like do you have a Trojan?

[SPEAKER_14]: He's like, what am I a sailor?

[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, what am I a Greek?

[SPEAKER_13]: I did that did definitely would have been into AI if he lived now.

[SPEAKER_13]: Oh, I did.

[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_14]: He talks about he's like, uh, you know, I mean, like machines.

[SPEAKER_14]: He has like robots are going to take our jobs anyway.

[SPEAKER_14]: He's might as well build the robots.

[SPEAKER_14]: And I was just like, you deserve for someone to go back and time and kill you.

[SPEAKER_14]: But, uh, yeah, like, [SPEAKER_14]: I, I think she just wasn't interested in having sex with him and she, but she did want to, you know, do some stuff.

[SPEAKER_14]: Taste is come.

[SPEAKER_14]: I can't imagine she would do too much hand stuff with him because his hand was filled with burger.

[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_14]: Everything about him says dirty.

[SPEAKER_14]: But I do love that he has the best friends in the world.

[SPEAKER_06]: The wingman shit on is like a was like one of the moments in this episode I thought that was like a little on the nose and I would have scared Scared a girl who wasn't Peggy away, but she was like no I am looking for a one.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so that's when the Peggy was looking for so it was perfect, but I have that wingman And I work for a jerk Really, you got cancer We talking about a living around the corner.

[SPEAKER_14]: Oh, that's right.

[SPEAKER_14]: He does [SPEAKER_14]: I love you, I love that guy.

[SPEAKER_14]: That's good friends.

[SPEAKER_13]: So did he swap a promise?

[SPEAKER_13]: It's one of the friends.

[SPEAKER_06]: No, he was he was saying like you could just go home with this guy.

[SPEAKER_06]: It's right there.

[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, yeah.

[SPEAKER_14]: He was getting him to say out loud.

[SPEAKER_14]: Oh, he lives just around the corner.

[SPEAKER_14]: by the way, they're setting them up, they're setting them up to get some fucky, so we knock them down that, yeah yummy yummy, and so they eat the burger, they eat the burger, oh they eat the burger, oh they eat the burger, oh they eat the burger, oh they eat the burger, yeah, give me that big man, [SPEAKER_07]: It doesn't get all over the place.

[SPEAKER_07]: It doesn't belong in your face.

[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, shit.

[SPEAKER_07]: That's an ad.

[SPEAKER_07]: Fuck you.

[SPEAKER_07]: I'm eating.

[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah So I don't actually remember the actual slogan.

[SPEAKER_06]: I remember the idiot.

[SPEAKER_13]: So father me.

[SPEAKER_06]: That's it.

[SPEAKER_06]: That's it.

[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah That was for like eating your children are starving.

[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, your children You'll be placing the custody of Carl's Jr.

[SPEAKER_14]: Carl's Jr.

[SPEAKER_14]: Fuck you.

[SPEAKER_14]: I'm eating [SPEAKER_14]: Um, so yeah, she gets to, uh, she gets to have some, you know, some fun sex.

[SPEAKER_14]: Or she basically gets to prove to herself that she is an attractive carefree girl.

[SPEAKER_14]: Um, and I'm sure that goes great.

[SPEAKER_14]: and then she leaves in the middle of the night because she's like I've proved that by anyways other things happening we talked a little bit about what's going on in Madison Square Garden with regards to you know like Sterling Cooper like they are trying to get this contract [SPEAKER_14]: To do ads for it and the scene that we talked about earlier.

[SPEAKER_14]: I have it's Pete and Paul talking to the Madison Square Garden people and Paul having no idea how to do a Dawn Draper here it is [SPEAKER_11]: Do you know where the greatest Roman ruins are?

[SPEAKER_11]: They're in Greece.

[SPEAKER_11]: Spain.

[SPEAKER_11]: Because the Romans tore theirs all down.

[SPEAKER_11]: They took apart the Coliseum to build their outhouses.

[SPEAKER_11]: Do you have a problem, buddy?

[SPEAKER_11]: He's looking for an angle.

[SPEAKER_12]: Well, I got a mailbox full of death threats from Beat McSly, Cam, and we'd rather live in a T.P.

[SPEAKER_12]: This is the greatest city in the world.

[SPEAKER_12]: If you don't like it, leave.

[SPEAKER_12]: I'm going to have to talk to Don about this.

[SPEAKER_12]: Don't do that.

[SPEAKER_12]: Look.

[SPEAKER_11]: Now, they'll trust me more.

[SPEAKER_11]: Do you ever listen to yourself?

[SPEAKER_11]: Love it.

[SPEAKER_14]: Now they'll trust me more when I help them It's so I love I love Paul because he is he is clueless as to how He should be and then you see again that is like the That is the future middle management Yeah, relation to capitalism is they will now they'll trust me more when I help them [SPEAKER_13]: Yes, and then he's just it's just so fine that he's a beaten egg and really he just that's just he's a JD van Yes, yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a beard.

[SPEAKER_14]: Okay, and and you see like compared to Don I mean Don's version of this is is Don and it's so perfect comparatively and and he says a line in here, you know that I think is is so [SPEAKER_14]: Poignant that, uh, it's kind of like, it's like stuck with me for a long time.

[SPEAKER_14]: It's like if you don't like what's being said change the conversation is True, it's true.

[SPEAKER_14]: True words have never been spoken.

[SPEAKER_13]: So here's the episode for that.

[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, here's that.

[SPEAKER_12]: Why do you people insist on making us sound like villains?

[SPEAKER_09]: You're concerned over public opinion shows a guilty conscience.

[SPEAKER_12]: So let's say I don't have a guilty conscience.

[SPEAKER_09]: Good.

[SPEAKER_09]: And let's also say that change is neither good or bad.

[SPEAKER_09]: It simply is.

[SPEAKER_09]: PR people understand this, but they can never execute it.

[SPEAKER_09]: If you don't like what is being said, change a conversation.

[SPEAKER_14]: So, look, I don't mean to always bring every conversation back to Israel, but I feel like this conversation is something, I mean, this advice is something that I have seen implemented or at least attempts to be implemented by like, [SPEAKER_14]: propagandists it's it's a thing you see a lot where it's just like, you know, a half of the PR people in, you know, Israel or in, you know, any kind of pro Israel media are like, you know, we need to constantly react to all the war crimes allegations and the other half is like, no, no, no, no, no.

[SPEAKER_14]: The guilty conscience does not serve us, just change the conversation, remember Hamas.

[SPEAKER_14]: And it's like the same thing here.

[SPEAKER_14]: And even says, like, PR guys understand this, but they don't know how to execute it.

[SPEAKER_06]: And yeah, yeah.

[SPEAKER_06]: I also think there's like, I mean, this reminded me if that press conference were like Trump, they brought up Epstein files and he's like, Epstein, Epstein, people, why are people still talking about this guy?

[SPEAKER_06]: Who keeps bringing him up, it's like forever ago, and it's like, well, you brought him up, like, six minutes ago.

[SPEAKER_06]: But sure, sure.

[SPEAKER_06]: It's funny when people try to implement that, um, if you don't like what people are saying, change the conversation, and it's very, like, transparent with the right.

[SPEAKER_14]: Right.

[SPEAKER_14]: And that's why what you need is, you know, dawn draper.

[SPEAKER_14]: to you need him to market it and you see even in just him like sweet talking the Madison Square Garden people the difference between you know someone like him and someone like Paul which is that like he is able to sell them on the idea that he can sell [SPEAKER_14]: ship to other people.

[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, yeah.

[SPEAKER_13]: Where's he like he's basically modifying the guy.

[SPEAKER_13]: He's not there's not really an idea there.

[SPEAKER_13]: No, no, it's actually so it's just like I'll hold your hand.

[SPEAKER_13]: I'll get you to where you need to be.

[SPEAKER_13]: So you don't care that these people, yeah, as he say in the meeting, she's a lot.

[SPEAKER_13]: She's an angry angry woman with a big mouth.

[SPEAKER_13]: He's right.

[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_13]: So you don't worry about these angry women with big mouths and you'll just make your little [SPEAKER_14]: Yes, yeah.

[SPEAKER_14]: And he's able to, like, yeah, he's able to basically sell them without having pitched a single idea.

[SPEAKER_14]: What he's selling them is that I have the ability to change the conversation.

[SPEAKER_14]: So people will not be talking about the things that it's wrong with you or it or, you know, and all these writers, they're not going to be talking about this.

[SPEAKER_14]: You're going to be talking about something else.

[SPEAKER_06]: Do you have, um, do you have Roger Sterling's, uh, will end as Joe [SPEAKER_06]: I'd so like this is like a full belly.

[SPEAKER_14]: Yes, this is right when the medicine square garden people, a little person comes to meet with them.

[SPEAKER_14]: Rogers also there and he has this little quit.

[SPEAKER_00]: I understand one of our copywriters took a yet a willendusized misstep.

[SPEAKER_00]: The girl, the tight rope walker, they got her off the side walk with a hose last week.

[SPEAKER_14]: Just fucking, so dark, and it was like, so just Pacific reference that I had to look it up.

[SPEAKER_14]: I was like, what is this?

[SPEAKER_14]: Oh yeah, flying will end his bro.

[SPEAKER_14]: See, I'd never heard of this, so according to Wikipedia, [SPEAKER_14]: fell 50 feet to her death in 1963 after fainting during her act and the flying will end is Wikipedia page is just tragedies it's all well i mean their whole deal was like walking on tightrobes without a rope without a net that's kind of a right yeah only the falling will end yeah i mean they're flying for a little bit feel that ground made some you know what i mean [SPEAKER_14]: Uh, then they die, but yeah, um, it is, it's interesting seeing what Dawn said to Peggy, uh, in that, in that scene that I played earlier, which is like, you're not an artist, you're here to fix problems, and see how Dawn implements that throughout this episode with everything.

[SPEAKER_14]: Dawn spends the entire [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, and it's great.

[SPEAKER_06]: And I like this because you see Rogers approach, which is like, really, there's nothing to it other than like, Oh, let's just get drunk and be dudes.

[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_06]: Like that, you know, and he needs dawn there to actually close the deal with that doesn't work.

[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_13]: You know what's great in that scene, too, is the way that [SPEAKER_13]: When he realizes the guy is going to stay there, Roger Orders, the iceberg, wedge, um, the analogy with the blue cheese and the bacon, and the ad guy, the mass described guy, looks at him with such disdain, and I'm pretty sure like the messages, fuck this guy for knowing exactly who I am, knowing what I do want to have to eat right now.

[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, yeah, how do you know my order?

[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, it is great, but yeah, Dawn is dealing with like problems coming, you know, at every angle for him, whether it's like this Madison Square Garden issue or his wife, you know, having some issues.

[SPEAKER_06]: He goes out to, it's funny like his attitude when he fixes all of these problems, but he seems very unhappy about it the whole time.

[SPEAKER_06]: Like in the past, [SPEAKER_06]: seasons.

[SPEAKER_06]: I don't think like Don would get some pleasure out of solving this.

[SPEAKER_06]: Well, Robert's, but now it just sort of feeds his internal misanthropy.

[SPEAKER_14]: Well, I think that the only problems that he likes solving are how to like get the client.

[SPEAKER_14]: He likes the chase.

[SPEAKER_14]: And it's why when he is able to like sweet talk, [SPEAKER_14]: Madison Square Garden people in that meeting, it's why he's so angry when Lane comes in later and says we lost Madison Square Garden not because of them but because of our you know owners in the UK think there's a conflict.

[SPEAKER_14]: and he's explaining to Lane that this is like it's not just about medicine square garden it's about like 30 years of business this is our into the world fair this is our into this that and the other and it's kind of like the same thing with the patio stuff where it's like he is it's not about the [SPEAKER_14]: art for him.

[SPEAKER_14]: It's not about the, you know, fucking like it's about the chasing bigger and bigger game.

[SPEAKER_14]: It's about like strategizing how to win the biggest fucking, you know.

[SPEAKER_06]: Yes, but he's also another version of Peggy where he can feel like he, he's, he's become really good at his job, but without realizing that, you know, at a certain point, like if you have dumb enough management, [SPEAKER_06]: It doesn't matter that what you did is really good for the business because they don't know what's good for the business and they will just make dumb decisions because that's who they are and they don't care about you [SPEAKER_13]: But also, eventually, it's like who gives a fuck about the world's fair anymore.

[SPEAKER_13]: Well, right.

[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_14]: He was wrong there.

[SPEAKER_14]: The world's fair.

[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_14]: It's funny.

[SPEAKER_06]: It was probably a pretty big deal for like another eight years there.

[SPEAKER_14]: Do it back in the day, the world's fair.

[SPEAKER_14]: Like my dad talks about the world's fair.

[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_14]: Before like the internet.

[SPEAKER_14]: He said, okay, so and I've never googled this.

[SPEAKER_14]: I got to see if this is real.

[SPEAKER_14]: He said he went to the world's fair in 64, and he saw a guy pull his eyeballs out and swing him around by the stocks.

[SPEAKER_13]: That's why mine that because that's like why is this happening?

[SPEAKER_14]: Why is this having another trade show?

[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_14]: This is my dad has told me this story countless times.

[SPEAKER_14]: I sure didn't go to the county fair.

[SPEAKER_14]: You can see that's what it like part of me was like, I guess I don't know what the world's fair is.

[SPEAKER_14]: I don't think fair.

[SPEAKER_06]: I don't think it had evolved that much further than like freak shows inside shows at that point.

[SPEAKER_06]: Okay, so it was a freak show.

[SPEAKER_06]: I feel like it was, it probably, you know, that wasn't the, that wasn't the pitch, but it probably was on some level because they hadn't evolved.

[SPEAKER_14]: Right.

[SPEAKER_14]: It was like, look at the first color television and then look at guy who's going to pull his eyeballs out and sweep it by the optic nerve.

[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_14]: Someone Google it.

[SPEAKER_14]: I don't know how to do it.

[SPEAKER_06]: It's like conventions now where they have booth babes.

[SPEAKER_06]: It's like, yeah, we're going to like have some Not like it's going to revolutionize whatever, but also there's going to be like a busty babe with the t-shirt of the company logo on it.

[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, yeah, you're right.

[SPEAKER_14]: It's like Nvidia, but a guy's doing his eyeballs around.

[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, except their titties.

[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, I mean either way.

[SPEAKER_14]: Um, so Lane, I'm looking either way I'd look in and you know what so is he with them eyeballs at the stocks.

[SPEAKER_14]: Okay, so Lane is he's doing the thing throughout where he's like, you know Telling people about all the clients or losing stuff like that.

[SPEAKER_14]: I really love Roger at one point as there's finding out that they lost Campbell suit Roger just looks at the suit of armor.

[SPEAKER_14]: in his office and goes here we get three sheets of the wind and try that thing on that's all of Rodgers don't give a fuck attitude is just one of my favorites um...

I'll say this I've been watching the show foundation on Apple which stars Jared Harris and it's this fight oh yeah sci-fi [SPEAKER_13]: intergalactic space and time folding.

[SPEAKER_13]: He plays a hologram and a real version of himself.

[SPEAKER_13]: And the whole time I watched, I'm just like, what has Lane Price got himself?

[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_14]: What are you doing now, Lane?

[SPEAKER_14]: During this is interesting because like I have this is the second sci-fi show that he has been on as far as I know because he was also in the Expanse and I was just like oh look Lane is doing sci-fi and he's doing like this weird accent the whole time I was I loved him.

[SPEAKER_06]: I thought he was in Chernobyl.

[SPEAKER_06]: Oh man Lane is in some hot water with the Russians now.

[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, man [SPEAKER_14]: What he's just always lame, right?

[SPEAKER_13]: The suicide was a false fight.

[SPEAKER_14]: It was a false flag, so that he could go to space and lead a Belter rebellion.

[SPEAKER_14]: And it's like they're really normal.

[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, they're really, um, they're really laying the groundwork for what eventually happens to him here.

[SPEAKER_06]: He just seems like this sad guy that, like, he has a shitty life.

[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, he can't win.

[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, because he's got, you know, they say happy, white, happy life.

[SPEAKER_14]: uh...

shitty wife shitty life if you think about it because they go at the dinner beddy and don go at the dinner with uh...

lane and uh...

and his wife and like his wife is just a fucking just a fucking asshole like she said what she says is one thing where uh...

she has where they're living in lanes wife says near the u.n.

[SPEAKER_14]: so there's plenty of Africans [SPEAKER_14]: I have like what I have no idea what kind of racism this is.

[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I like to arcane for me I'm like, is that good?

[SPEAKER_14]: Yes, that good is it cuz like are you from South Africa?

[SPEAKER_14]: I don't know.

[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, is it like being at the zoo where you're like, oh my god You can like get them.

[SPEAKER_14]: I don't know what we're going for here I'm just don't know how racist she is, but I do know it's [SPEAKER_14]: most likely racist.

[SPEAKER_14]: And then she also says she misses what what we lost in London.

[SPEAKER_14]: We gained in insects.

[SPEAKER_14]: Which is like Jesus Christ.

[SPEAKER_14]: So yeah, so Dawn is dealing with Betty who has just been in a fucking shitty mood this whole time.

[SPEAKER_14]: The first scene was better.

[SPEAKER_06]: Insects, didn't she say should they live in the city?

[SPEAKER_06]: The insects in the city?

[SPEAKER_06]: That many insects in the city?

[SPEAKER_14]: I think she's talking about, I think she's talking about people.

[SPEAKER_14]: Oh, I think she's been even more racist, um, but add a nugs.

[SPEAKER_14]: She could be just talking.

[SPEAKER_14]: I mean, New York's filled with with roaches.

[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, so I probably talk about roaches.

[SPEAKER_14]: Um, Betty's in a shitty mood.

[SPEAKER_14]: We finally find out why it's because her dad who has recently had a stroke.

[SPEAKER_14]: Uh, now Gloria has left.

[SPEAKER_14]: Um, Gene and Gloria of course was, uh, Betty's aunt and is, you know, also kind of now her step mom, uh, but she let's aunt.

[SPEAKER_14]: Oh, she.

[SPEAKER_14]: Oh, I didn't realize that was her aunt too.

[SPEAKER_06]: I thought it was step mom.

[SPEAKER_14]: I thought it was, yeah, I'm pretty sure it was it was her mother's sister.

[SPEAKER_14]: Oh, I didn't catch that.

[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, and so she's worried about him and she says, you know, her brother is going to bring dad over and this was some confusing confusing shit to me because like, I didn't realize that her goal was to have her dad come live with her because in my mind, I'm like, oh man, my dad comes to live with, I don't know, I'm going to have to get divorced.

[SPEAKER_06]: What was that the ultimate goal though?

[SPEAKER_06]: I guess I mean that's what I can figure out.

[SPEAKER_06]: It seemed like it was or maybe she was torn between like she didn't want to give her brother the satisfaction of thinking that he was going to get the house and the car.

[SPEAKER_06]: Oh yeah.

[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, I know that was part of it and then they didn't want to pay for putting him in a home, I guess.

[SPEAKER_06]: I couldn't figure out.

[SPEAKER_06]: It was just her misplaced sense of like familiar or responsibility that she didn't want to put him in the home.

[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, I mean, I also like based on what William said where she and that one shot of him talking to what's the what's the duty or duty him talking to Judy and they're in the bunk beds and they're like all the toys are I'll just like a beautiful stage shot.

[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, but he says like oh like she always forgets that they're always fighting right Betty Betty more than anyone [SPEAKER_13]: Not even more than anywhere on the show, but Benny is just the closet type of person that it's like revisionist history Yes, like let's check like that not it not a not acknowledging the way it really was and trying to like Rinch the reality into her like ideas version.

[SPEAKER_06]: She's like the wasp final boss in that Yeah, and you know [SPEAKER_14]: So, William shows up with Grandpa Jean and his wife and kids, and it's really like, it's really sad because, you know, you see, I'm show up, he seems fine, and then he mentions that he also got Gloria Sandwich, and, like, William, Betty's brother William is such a dickhead, it was so good, it was such a funny age.

[SPEAKER_06]: Here, I always had to deal with this guy's shit, and he's like, doesn't care anymore.

[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, and here's that scene.

[SPEAKER_14]: We went to Pat Stakes.

[SPEAKER_14]: I got you a half.

[SPEAKER_08]: Have you all already eaten?

[SPEAKER_08]: No, we waited.

[SPEAKER_05]: Haven't got Gloria Chicken Farmer's ya.

[SPEAKER_01]: Well, great.

[SPEAKER_01]: Well, male-actual.

[SPEAKER_01]: She's in bulk with reton.

[SPEAKER_01]: She's not coming back.

[SPEAKER_14]: like it's timing is so funny and it's just so mean because you know he's he's doing the thing which I think is also like very uh waspy uh where his theory is that he's just faking it like yeah he's just playing it up and and I kind of didn't like that like when he says that because [SPEAKER_06]: like the way he reacts to his dad before that is like a relatable thing when you're dealing with like a dementia adult family member because like you start off you know trying to do like the most sensitive thing and then at a certain stage of their illness you realize it kind of doesn't fucking matter because they're going to remember it anyway right um and that's felt that [SPEAKER_13]: And also, it's like, so we're just talking about how Betty's sort of like not really except in reality and trying to change it, gene literally is, you know, starting on said dementia.

[SPEAKER_13]: And then William is just as diluted because in that one scene, he says something like, family's important to me, and then literally the next statement is, I don't want to live with the guy or something like, I don't want to live with my dad, I don't work him with those bad enough.

[SPEAKER_13]: So it's like, there's just, now that we're talking about it, it's like, it is very [SPEAKER_13]: It is very Washington, all these layers of of self-divided appearances and self-divided and trying to turn it towards the best version of itself and also it's like, guys, where are we talking about?

[SPEAKER_13]: We got this free chicken parm.

[SPEAKER_13]: I want to go to, I want to go to, I want to go to, I want to go to, I want to go to, [SPEAKER_13]: I don't patch stakes so bad.

[SPEAKER_13]: I looked up patch stakes.

[SPEAKER_13]: Oh, man.

[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, yeah, I want to But any pores all the booze out and you're like, oh, man.

[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, it's like how much?

[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, how much How much money worth of liquor to deport down the drain?

[SPEAKER_14]: That's sort of the punchline of this entire storyline to me is is the fact that like dawn He's [SPEAKER_14]: 100% takes charge of this whole thing after Betty like won't shut up and like he like He's sick of these fucking wasps like yes, you know self denying Yeah, where they can't even talk to each other anymore right exactly and he's just like, you know Fuck it, you know, he'll live here, you know, how bad could it be and for him There's a thousand other things that could have happened for the how bad could it be?

[SPEAKER_14]: But him pouring out the booze [SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, because he he here's a siren in the distance wakes up thinks it's prohibition era Training it down the drain.

[SPEAKER_14]: He's like the heat is on like Don's face is like, oh No [SPEAKER_14]: It is so funny.

[SPEAKER_06]: Well, that was fake.

[SPEAKER_06]: It's like during that whole sequence for me I'm like does don't not realize what it's gonna be like living with a like dementia Addle the old man because fuck that is not gonna be well, and he he's just trying to like He's just looking for a win too because he just like yeah, just had the firing blanks with the mass and square garden Thanks, so it's like [SPEAKER_14]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_13]: All right.

[SPEAKER_13]: Here's what's going to happen.

[SPEAKER_13]: We're going to do this.

[SPEAKER_13]: It's going to make my wife happy.

[SPEAKER_13]: And I'm not here anyway.

[SPEAKER_13]: Then it's like, well, Dan, even when I am here, I'm not going to have some to drink now.

[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_14]: It sucks for him.

[SPEAKER_14]: And I love his attitude is as soon as he gets home, because he's just, you know, lost.

[SPEAKER_14]: I think the Madison Square Garden thing.

[SPEAKER_14]: He's already just like, oh, fuck.

[SPEAKER_14]: And then he [SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, and actually they never explained that.

[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, we clogged this thing and he's like, don't worry about it It's taking care of and then Betty is like, oh, I'm a horrible daughter.

[SPEAKER_14]: Oh, I deserve to die And so finally he's like fuck it.

[SPEAKER_14]: He has the conversation and he [SPEAKER_14]: tells him how it's going to be.

[SPEAKER_14]: He says, you know, he's going to live here and fucking, you know, you guys are going to pay for everything.

[SPEAKER_14]: And insult to injury goes, also you're taking the train home other fuckers.

[SPEAKER_14]: You're not getting the Lincoln.

[SPEAKER_14]: And I love that.

[SPEAKER_14]: I love that he's take charge kind of guy, you know?

[SPEAKER_06]: Well, I also like that there.

[SPEAKER_06]: He's like, yeah, look, he's dementia adult.

[SPEAKER_06]: He needs round the clock care and God damn it.

[SPEAKER_06]: He's going to need to be able to drive an automobile so that he doesn't annoy me too much.

[SPEAKER_14]: Right.

[SPEAKER_14]: Yes.

[SPEAKER_14]: So he can just kind of wander.

[SPEAKER_14]: And then the final scenes in this are happened at Field Day and after.

[SPEAKER_14]: So Field Day.

[SPEAKER_14]: uh...

they all of the families watches their children do some sort of pagan maple dance uh...

with a hot teacher who is you know there it's like a renewal of springtime and she is there it's very German coded whatever it is it's uh...

it means uh...

like a hot young woman bear foot uh...

in the grass and the other [SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, and Donzard's watching the teacher and realizing that he wants to do fucky sake and he just starts like finger fucking the grass No, he's he's doing literal touch grass.

[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, oh, she's whole episode.

[SPEAKER_06]: He needed to touch grass.

[SPEAKER_06]: He finally got the chance to do the fuck grass [SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, exactly, but in salt burn style, but yeah, he's like just, he's like looking at her feet and he's like touching the grass and he's like this grass is the same grass that has touched those touches.

[SPEAKER_14]: let me let me let him and he's like super horny and stuff and uh yeah it is it's just an interesting like human moment with him where he's been dealing with all these problems he's taken charge in every single situation in this in this episode um he's just been a fixer and finally he's like you know sitting watching this hot how girl and he's just like you know [SPEAKER_14]: I missed a simple times when I was just cheating on my wife a lot.

[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, like, and it's kind of, yeah, it's kind of beautiful because like, for him, he's like, oh, man, I really need to take a break and have it a fair education is so important.

[SPEAKER_14]: And then Final Seen Dawn comes back in the office that looks for Peggy or looks at Peggy who is working and then she wants to talk about pamper and then you see them in the office.

[SPEAKER_14]: He's lighting up a cigarette, she's looking through a file and then cut to black and that's the episode.

[SPEAKER_13]: He's like finally the one relationship in my life that makes sense.

[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_14]: just me smoking while she nervously, you know, flips through some pages and tries to do shitty art.

[SPEAKER_14]: Favorite scene, least favorite scene or something we didn't talk about.

[SPEAKER_14]: Vince.

[SPEAKER_06]: I was actually just looking at my notes and I, um, I had written down, cut it out.

[SPEAKER_06]: I know that was somebody's line at some point, but I'm like, trying to, I feel like that was a laugh line at some point, but now I'm like, not remember.

[SPEAKER_13]: Oh, yeah, it's, it's, it's when, uh, Don yells to the kids.

[SPEAKER_13]: Right?

[SPEAKER_06]: Yes, yes, he comes in the room.

[SPEAKER_06]: It was just like that 60s parenting moment.

[SPEAKER_06]: We're now.

[SPEAKER_06]: It's like we have to be so sensitive and like, you know, talk to our kids and like inside voices and say, please, and thank you and be really polite.

[SPEAKER_06]: Here's the kids in the other room.

[SPEAKER_06]: And he just opens the door and he's like, cut it out and closes the door.

[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_06]: That was great.

[SPEAKER_13]: Betty had a line too.

[SPEAKER_13]: Like that.

[SPEAKER_13]: Where is just like, what are you doing?

[SPEAKER_06]: Yes, and that was the button of the scene.

[SPEAKER_06]: That's why I love that so much where it's just the, they have like the serious, uh, thematically, uh, relevant conversation.

[SPEAKER_06]: And then she's just like, what are you doing?

[SPEAKER_06]: And then cut to the cut.

[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[SPEAKER_14]: Um, yeah, that was a great, uh, Alan, uh, favorite scene at least for every scene or something we didn't talk about.

[SPEAKER_13]: I'll say two things that I caught watching this that I, that I never noticed before.

[SPEAKER_13]: So after the scene where, um, Paul is doing the, uh, sort of run through of the headlines and this is, uh, [SPEAKER_13]: the uh...

he benches the rape on thirty four street vet right after that is when we see jone uh...

uh...

uh...

uh...

better yeah better than the office better is pregnant jones there for a minute and they're talking about [SPEAKER_13]: Jones, like, oh, you're pregnant and then I think Betty says something along the lines of like when are you going to do all this?

[SPEAKER_13]: Paul Ross.

[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_13]: And she says Greg says that when he's on leave or whatever, that I better watch out.

[SPEAKER_13]: It was just like such a chilling like not I mean, I don't know if they knew where it was going Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, that is such a like layer thing and then the other thing.

[SPEAKER_06]: Well, he's already that I like raped her at this Oh, this is that already happened.

[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[SPEAKER_13]: Okay, so that okay, so it's not to I didn't know in the timeline if that had happened here not [SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[SPEAKER_13]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_13]: So that's clearly is a nod to that.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_13]: And then there's also so I just kind of really okay Roger is now with Jane.

[SPEAKER_13]: He had an affair with Joan and Mona intentionally calls her June.

[SPEAKER_13]: Oh, so it's like Mona kind of like merge Joan and Jane into one.

[SPEAKER_13]: Oh, that's crazy.

[SPEAKER_14]: And when I didn't even notice that.

[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_14]: I didn't even notice that at all, but that is incredible.

[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, yeah, for me like the one thing we didn't talk about is kind of Roger storyline here because it you get more of it later, but it's like he He's essentially he's mad because Margaret his daughter doesn't want his his new wife to come to the wedding and like He says the dawn later is just like, you know, I don't even really care.

[SPEAKER_14]: I just I just want to win [SPEAKER_14]: like he just wants to destroy his now x-wife is so funny um yeah and if I had to give this episode a letter grade and I do you know what I think I'm gonna give it a B-plus friends what do you have this episode yet to give it a little tough tough [SPEAKER_06]: You know, I'm tabulating this episode.

[SPEAKER_06]: It's kind of a downer for me.

[SPEAKER_06]: Didn't really like it.

[SPEAKER_06]: But very thematically, the appropriate and streamlined for there's all of the Mad Men's signature themes.

[SPEAKER_14]: I'm going to have to go with, this is tough.

[SPEAKER_06]: I'm going to be blessed.

[SPEAKER_14]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_14]: Thank you.

[SPEAKER_14]: Wow.

[SPEAKER_14]: It's surprising.

[SPEAKER_14]: And Alan Strickland Williams, what would you give this episode if you had to give it a letter.

[SPEAKER_13]: I think because of the line from Don about patio everyone wants a drink that sounds like a floor Gotta be plus all right all right, you know what you know what that is solid be plus is [SPEAKER_14]: all around for this episode, and you know what?

[SPEAKER_14]: A solid A plus episode of Mad Yourself, a man, Alan Strickland Williams.

[SPEAKER_14]: Thank you so much for coming on and talking to Mad Men with us.

[SPEAKER_14]: Thanks for having me.

[SPEAKER_14]: So fun.

[SPEAKER_14]: Thanks guys.

[SPEAKER_14]: Absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_13]: I've got a podcast, I use a not great Bob drop every once in a while.

[SPEAKER_13]: Hell yeah.

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[SPEAKER_14]: Allen, named it after your mom.

[SPEAKER_03]: Fuck you.

[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, oh, oh, oh.

[SPEAKER_14]: Allen.

[SPEAKER_14]: Thank you so much for coming out.

[SPEAKER_13]: Thanks, y'all.

[SPEAKER_14]: patreon.com slash fructus the eight dollar tier gets you a shout out that's right you get a prep school name and if I can do it I'll just some sort of ad slogan you can do it I believe in you.

[SPEAKER_14]: I might be able to, so I burped.

[SPEAKER_14]: Vince, we have four names this week, and surprise, surprise, they are all men.

[SPEAKER_06]: I'm putting on my giant Johnny Carson Turbin to, oh yeah, that's my prep school giving hat.

[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, what is it Zoltan?

[SPEAKER_14]: Is that his like that?

[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_14]: Um, okay, so here they are first is Chris Quigley.

[SPEAKER_06]: Chris Quigley, we're going to call this guy Celic because he is Quigley down under.

[SPEAKER_14]: Oh, yeah, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, [SPEAKER_14]: Yep, okay.

[SPEAKER_14]: Let's do uh...

fucking uh...

So like, I just mad at Karate next one.

[SPEAKER_14]: I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

[SPEAKER_14]: I just, that one is particularly hard.

[SPEAKER_14]: I think everyone listening will agree.

[SPEAKER_14]: Next one is Matt Phillips.

[SPEAKER_14]: We're gonna call this guy Papa cuz he's in the Philips family the Mama's and the Papa's there having sex with their children Yes, that's right cuz he is not just California dreaming, but he's also California cream and Cream and all California cream and all I like it [SPEAKER_14]: Alright, we're getting better.

[SPEAKER_14]: Now we're cooking with cream and the third name is William Irvine.

[SPEAKER_06]: Irvine!

[SPEAKER_06]: And we're going to call this guy IKEA after the famous landmark of Irvine, California, which is the IKEA.

[SPEAKER_06]: I think that's true.

[SPEAKER_06]: I'm going to go with it.

[SPEAKER_14]: Oh man, you know, there's someone must have put some sugar on them because they call them Swedish meatballs.

[SPEAKER_06]: I don't like that we both lose our minds.

[SPEAKER_14]: Sweet, sweet-ish meatballs.

[SPEAKER_06]: I don't actually 100% know that there's a IKEA and Irvine, but it seems like when I think of a place that would have an IKEA.

[SPEAKER_14]: Irvine, yeah.

[SPEAKER_14]: Irvine does seem like a place, yeah.

[SPEAKER_14]: For sure somewhere in Orange County, but that's obvious.

[SPEAKER_14]: But Irvine, yeah.

[SPEAKER_14]: Like the most historic building in Irvine is the IKEA.

[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, it's like the original IKEA.

[SPEAKER_14]: I can't even know.

[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_14]: And finally, last but not least, Adam Edgecom.

[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, we're going to call this guy Goon because he's always edging and not combing.

[SPEAKER_14]: Oh, yeah, you know, that's what Goon is right, I don't remember.

[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, it's well, it's like edging.

[SPEAKER_14]: It's like edging.

[SPEAKER_14]: It's like a long masturbation session, but I think you can come more than once I don't know let us know in the comment section if you can come more than once during gooning or if it's all edging We call this guy goon Bigger baby baby baby.

[SPEAKER_15]: That's all folks gloony goons [SPEAKER_15]: I was like, wait, I was like, late.

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[SPEAKER_14]: 415275-0030.

[SPEAKER_14]: Alright everyone, thanks again so much for listening and until next time, I don't think about you at all.

[SPEAKER_14]: Grandpa Jean had a stroke and then tried to molest me and now my brothers taking him back to my house To figure shit out My daddy's back and he's coming with my brother People and a sin which for my abs and peace that father [SPEAKER_14]: He's my mother will once the house and the link in He loves He loves He's very fudgy and he's showing some dimensions and comes He loves He's a tool He's having trouble thinking [SPEAKER_14]: Prohibition, will wants us to put him in a nursing home Hell yeah, I've been so guilty I've been watching my body set cause he will be alone Hell I've been so guilty I don't want to tell his will he I'm the way it's gonna be Hell I've been so guilty Don't you realize that he's been moving with us Take your wife and kids and leave Hell I've been so guilty [SPEAKER_15]: Bro, my grandpa, Jean will be back in my life Oh, yeah, bitch, oh, it will be good when you don't like to use me or his dad, why?

[SPEAKER_14]: Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh [SPEAKER_14]: I love my lips that now, you gotta stretch it with your hands like a gold seed type of thing, you gotta hide things in there, like a piece for Vince's mom's dick, you know what, good enough, that took too long for what this was.

[SPEAKER_14]: Hi, I'm Matt Leib, and I'm Vince Mancini, and this is Matt, your self, uh, man, what's happening?

[SPEAKER_14]: What's happening?

[SPEAKER_06]: What's happening?

[SPEAKER_06]: I was distracted than I thought.

[SPEAKER_14]: I could tell you were distracted.

[SPEAKER_14]: You were like, you're moving shit on the side of your, I'm shaking stuff.

[SPEAKER_14]: You fucking idiot fucking.

[SPEAKER_14]: You.

[SPEAKER_14]: Oh, wow.

[SPEAKER_14]: I just start crying.

[SPEAKER_14]: All right.