[SPEAKER_10]: Hi, I'm Matt Leave and I'm Vince Mancini and this is Mancini yourself Mancini Mancini Mancini Mancini Mancini Mancini Mancini Mancini Mancini Mancini Mancini Mancini Mancini Mancini Mancini Mancini Mancini Mancini Mancini [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, where you do it like, yeah, you make it ethnic so people know.

[SPEAKER_10]: I love that.

[SPEAKER_10]: It's one of the Hi, this is six o'clock news, and I'm Elizabeth Ramirez.

[SPEAKER_10]: I love it's like one of the great things about Listening to like L.A.

local radio is you'll hear someone who's just like I don't know non [SPEAKER_10]: Um, weird way to say this, but like, you'll listen to NPR and I'll be like, everyone sounds Jewish.

[SPEAKER_10]: And then, and by that I mean, you know, it's like, the NPR voice I feel like is an, it was like, it was like, it was like, it was like, it was like, it was like, it was like, it was like, it was like, it was like, it was like, it was like, it was like, it was like, it was like, it was like, it was like, it was like, it was like, it was like, it was like, it was like, it was like, it was like, it was like, it was like, it was like, it was like, it was like, it was like, it was like, it was like, it was like, it was like, it was like, it was like, it was like, it was like, it was like, it was like, it was like, it was [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, it's like a some sort of archetype that was created by, you know, other Jewish hosts, like, you know, your eyewer glasses and whatnot and the right stuff.

[SPEAKER_02]: Have you ever had the right stuff?

[SPEAKER_02]: No, so it talks about how like Chuck Yager was sort of the bow ideal of a pilot and he's like has this sort of slight West Virginia twang and basically every pilot from the for the next 50 years sort of adopted this Chuck Yager like like That's what that West Virginia twang when they were talking to the cabin, so I feel like it's relevant And this is your captain's be like that guy?

[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, yeah, wow [SPEAKER_10]: Well, so anyways, what I'm saying is that they all, it all, you know, sounds like everyone's doing a version of I reclass and then you'll hear someone say Ramirez and you're like, oh shit, okay.

[SPEAKER_10]: Hell yeah, like you never know.

[SPEAKER_10]: Anyways, this manman podcast is very good and we hope that everyone is enjoying listening to it [SPEAKER_10]: And thank you for giving us five stars in review and subscribing and telling your friends about it.

[SPEAKER_10]: You know, we have a great episode coming up just happening now.

[SPEAKER_10]: You're listening to it.

[SPEAKER_10]: And it's a good segue.

[SPEAKER_10]: So much.

[SPEAKER_10]: happens in this episode.

[SPEAKER_10]: You know, there was even a, there was a Nick Mullin, a young Nick Mullin is in this episode.

[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, yeah, Nick Mullin is actually in this episode as a kid.

[SPEAKER_07]: Here's a little clip from him.

[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, that's him, Nick Moan, talking about the driver's Chinese.

[SPEAKER_10]: Anyways, wait, was Nick Moan the one who called the Francesca, uh, she gets all his attention.

[SPEAKER_10]: Rachel told us on you, that's right.

[SPEAKER_10]: Listen, I'm not a fan, obviously.

[SPEAKER_10]: But I do, I do, I do.

[SPEAKER_10]: I do.

[SPEAKER_02]: I can laugh at that because I'm Italian.

[SPEAKER_10]: That's right, but also that a racer Chinese identity, she was Chinese and how there he, he's a crypto fascist and all that, but I do respect the meme and the meme is anytime someone says Chinese in a funny way, Nick Mullins said it.

[SPEAKER_10]: So we're going to be talking about from season three of Mad Men.

[SPEAKER_10]: with that man podcast episode 10 the color blue and boy howdy do we have a great guest today Vince who is it oh thank you for asking he is a standup comedian he is the host of the roundball rock podcast and he is of course a returning champion everybody ladies and gentlemen everyone I was [SPEAKER_10]: Oh, the boy is back in town, just one boy.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I had a really great idea for how I was going to introduce myself, but I fell asleep on the couch drinking whiskey from a bottle and I didn't write it down.

[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I have to do that.

[SPEAKER_03]: I had to yell at a janitor and it didn't help.

[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, I'll tell him how.

[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, it turns out that you got to write your ideas down, folks.

[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, what's my name?

[SPEAKER_10]: Do you all come in here and move things?

[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, you have a tendency to do that, Lois.

[SPEAKER_10]: So Sean, we're so happy you're back.

[SPEAKER_10]: We're going to be talking about this episode.

[SPEAKER_10]: But first, we're talking to you, and I'd like to know What's your favorite advertisement?

[SPEAKER_03]: my favorite advertisement.

[SPEAKER_03]: Um, I mean, obviously I can't choose Budweiser frogs because that's that's been retired.

[SPEAKER_03]: I think in the very first episode, uh, that was, that was named the greatest out of all time.

[SPEAKER_10]: I imagine that was the first one we ever got for the very first season of the show.

[SPEAKER_10]: But we've gotten a few different Budweiser.

[SPEAKER_10]: We had the was up guys.

[SPEAKER_10]: We had the frogs.

[SPEAKER_10]: I believe we even had the the horrors.

[SPEAKER_10]: Did we have the side stales?

[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, but no, what is Sean?

[SPEAKER_10]: Outside of those.

[SPEAKER_06]: What do you want to remember?

[SPEAKER_03]: What I I really like There's a very particular [SPEAKER_03]: Golden State Warriors promo commercial in 1999, 2000 season, which was a lockout shortened.

[SPEAKER_03]: I believe they won.

[SPEAKER_03]: They won very few games.

[SPEAKER_03]: They were not a good team.

[SPEAKER_03]: And the theme they went with is they decided it was a great time out.

[SPEAKER_03]: And then that was a good basketball pun even though a timeout means you Don't have to watch the Warriors play anymore.

[SPEAKER_03]: Also it doesn't it just remind people of losing Chris Weber who like yes Yes, I'm absolutely Like no one no one was thinking about anything.

[SPEAKER_02]: Hey remember when you drove out the best player you had in order to keep a coach who stayed for like a more months That was awesome [SPEAKER_03]: They have like a mongo version of the song there are like steel drums.

[SPEAKER_03]: It is it is very much like a point In the cultural landscape when the only time you would hear steel drums on television was this Golden State Warriors promotion and a girls gun wild ad That's incredible [SPEAKER_07]: I don't hear any steel drums.

[SPEAKER_02]: I only hear like the little song.

[SPEAKER_03]: I guess you're right in this steel drum, you're right.

[SPEAKER_03]: It was the, I, I misremember it.

[SPEAKER_03]: I apologize.

[SPEAKER_03]: I apologize.

[SPEAKER_10]: To Joe Francis and you, I'm, it was, uh, a ethnic rhythm section.

[SPEAKER_10]: I think it was what you were trying to say.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, the people dancing.

[SPEAKER_03]: It's Antoine Jamison.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, the outside of the white center, Tim Young.

[SPEAKER_03]: I think he played like 15 games in his only NBA season that year.

[SPEAKER_03]: And it was, it was like most people were not willing to show up for the commercial.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, what that really means.

[SPEAKER_03]: But it's like mook, I think Muggsy Boaks isn't that.

[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, wow.

[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't even remember he was a warrior.

[SPEAKER_03]: Antoine Jamison, at one point they had, I believe mooky playlock and Muggsy Boaks at the same time.

[SPEAKER_03]: I'm sorry, they're the same time but they also had vantigo comings at the same time as they had munchy bugs which is [SPEAKER_02]: maybe that's what you're thinking of the dream stuff that you just that's what place in my head every time I hear the name of my dog I mean it still drums are definitely like powerfully Pavlovia where I'm like yeah well I'm in a good mood and uh possibly drinking room every time I can't think of steel drums without thinking of uh the sequel we can at Bernie's too oh yeah I don't know if [SPEAKER_03]: I feel like it's been a while.

[SPEAKER_03]: I saw that movie with my friend on the day before he was moving like six hours away.

[SPEAKER_03]: And I remember just leaving the theater and we looked at each other and we were like, well, bye.

[SPEAKER_03]: I guess we're never going to see each other again.

[SPEAKER_08]: We just watched.

[SPEAKER_02]: I like one of the hardest things to figure out is that cultural moment.

[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like it comes at this weird cultural moment where it's like 1989 or something and it's like, it's that awkward, like we didn't know what pop culture was going to be.

[SPEAKER_02]: The 80s were like clearly over and the 90s had not quite started yet and like going back to watch.

[SPEAKER_02]: Weekend at Bernie's it looks like it costs set even the first one I don't even tell you what's equal it looks like it costs seven dollars most of it is really bad Like most of the people in it like aren't famous anymore.

[SPEAKER_02]: We really and And then at one point like an Italian girl fucks a corpse and you're like okay, and this was like the comedy smash it all the years And then they were like we need to make a sequel [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, to a film where one of the characters is dead and they decide to be extremely culturally sensitive and make the corpse of Bernie vulnerable to a voodoo spell that made him walk around like a zombie but only when appropriately ethnic music was playing.

[SPEAKER_03]: And that was the plot.

[SPEAKER_03]: that was what the movie hinged on was that feature right so basically they went to not that we can did Bernie's one is grounded in journalism.

[SPEAKER_03]: Sure, but they definitely took a real leap into the supernatural.

[SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely.

[SPEAKER_03]: Like every Bernie's body is still subject to like the laws of physics.

[SPEAKER_10]: Yep.

[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_03]: Anyway, it's it's a weird moment for the Caribbean and pop culture.

[SPEAKER_02]: I was going to say so.

[SPEAKER_03]: I feel like I've been seeing all that era.

[SPEAKER_02]: I always think I associate that particular era.

[SPEAKER_02]: Do you remember ugly kid Joe yeah, where it's like it's a [SPEAKER_02]: I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I [SPEAKER_02]: And if you want to get ugly kid Joe and and week the weekend at Bernie's movies are part of like that same weird cultural moment where people didn't really know what was going to happen yet.

[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_10]: Um, uh, also for me, just we can at Bernie's to is the only week in at Bernie's that I had seen.

[SPEAKER_10]: four years ago.

[SPEAKER_10]: So I thought the whole franchise was about Voodoo.

[SPEAKER_10]: Of course.

[SPEAKER_10]: And I saw like the first one finally and I was like, oh, this is a much more normal idea for a movie.

[SPEAKER_10]: Like, it was so strange to me that Voodoo didn't enter into the first one.

[SPEAKER_10]: that I had to ground myself like wait a second no actually it makes way more sense for this movie it's crazy that you're saying we can at Bernie's like made sense as an idea because like [SPEAKER_10]: Everything about that movie is still so insanely co-cattle like you like everybody involved in this was doing a ton of blow Well, it kind of makes me respect the second one because it's like, you know, it it's so co-cattle That makes you think the first one is like, oh, this is like back to the future like, you know, it's like very simple story [SPEAKER_03]: And I, for sure, had not seen weekend at Bernie's like all the way through when I saw two.

[SPEAKER_03]: But it was just like, I had no agency at that time.

[SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, well, this is the movie that's playing at the Capri Theatre.

[SPEAKER_10]: And it's playing at the right time before my friend leaves for everyone.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and my mom's gonna just pick him up from the mini van.

[SPEAKER_03]: Outside the Capri Theatre and I'm I'm gonna actually walk to the mall and catch the bus home Oh, that's so funny.

[SPEAKER_10]: I love that as you're the lat well.

[SPEAKER_03]: That's it We also I'm probably still holding the the giant popcorn I bought and learn about a refill out of the theater So I'm just sadly like walking along a six-lane road in the suburbs [SPEAKER_03]: So just like a couple of dust it's leaving.

[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, we'll go to soon a bomb.

[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, I hope someone with steel drums and he walks all the way back here.

[SPEAKER_03]: And then he then he came back like a year later because his dad's new.

[SPEAKER_03]: It was not sustainable to be like a small town lawyer.

[SPEAKER_03]: Sure, sure.

[SPEAKER_10]: a lot of good not a lot of people sue each other this month and not enough we got a we start making that happen but there's not a podcast about uh we can at Bernie's although shouldn't it be no this is a podcast about madmen and of course we cannot start the podcast without first playing the themes all [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_07]: Madman.

[SPEAKER_07]: Yes.

[SPEAKER_07]: Drunk.

[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_07]: You advertise.

[SPEAKER_07]: Podcasts.

[SPEAKER_07]: You won't be here.

[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_07]: Madman.

[SPEAKER_07]: Madman.

[SPEAKER_07]: Madman.

[SPEAKER_10]: Oh right ladies and gentlemen everyone else once again talking about season 3 episode 10 of Madman the color blue Vince can you break us off a little piece of that synopsis?

[SPEAKER_02]: As Sterling Cooper prepares for its 40th anniversary party, the bosses in London drop a bomb shell to lane.

[SPEAKER_02]: Elsewhere, Miss Farrell's troubled brother pays a visit to her and on, and Betty stumbles onto her husband's secrets.

[SPEAKER_11]: Oh, a secret.

[SPEAKER_10]: Oh, no, a secret that matters, um, and events, uh, what was happening at the time that this episode was set in.

[SPEAKER_02]: Hmm, that's right.

[SPEAKER_02]: We cannot evaluate a period piece divorced from its period context.

[SPEAKER_02]: My birthday.

[SPEAKER_02]: And we have to put some of that context back in with a little something that we call the news machine.

[SPEAKER_00]: I like my ass with Wall Street Journal.

[SPEAKER_00]: There is no big lie.

[SPEAKER_00]: There's no system.

[SPEAKER_00]: The universe is indifferent.

[SPEAKER_02]: Last news, isn't it?

[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, we're going all the way back to October 18th, 1963.

[SPEAKER_02]: Considering this episode appeared, sorry, premiered October 18th, 2009.

[SPEAKER_02]: But it's also said in 1963, that's why we're going there.

[SPEAKER_02]: You get it.

[SPEAKER_02]: From the Pueblo Chief did, I don't know why newspapers.com chose Pueblo Colorado's newspaper to choose as it's first One of the quirks of the randomizing algorithms.

[SPEAKER_02]: I got to love that.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, headline is Nixon come back in offing.

[SPEAKER_02]: Is Nixon calm could Richard Ebb M Nixon come up with a 1964 Republican presidential nomination Most Republican strategists say they don't think it could happen, but in almost the same breath They add that the way things are going in their party the improbable is at least possible [SPEAKER_02]: Republic and congressional leaders have been told by the former vice president who lost to Kennedy by a hairline margin in 1960 and was defeated for Governor of California in 1962 that who will not become a candidate again under any circumstances.

[SPEAKER_02]: They're inclined to accept it face value in Xen's recent news conference statement.

[SPEAKER_02]: I am not a candidate and I will not be.

[SPEAKER_02]: There will be no dark horse nominate at this convention.

[SPEAKER_02]: That rules out myself and any others who are not now working for the nomination.

[SPEAKER_11]: And any other dark horses.

[SPEAKER_13]: Dark horses only want one thing.

[SPEAKER_13]: So loose hooves and uh...

[SPEAKER_11]: Dark piles of hay.

[SPEAKER_11]: I won't have Nixon to kick around anymore.

[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, these dark horses can't kick Nixon around Just a like a special like Quaker slur that we don't know We don't know which end the group it's for [SPEAKER_02]: That seemed to narrow the field to Senator Barry Goldwater, Arizona, and New York Governor Nelson A.

Rockefeller.

[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, that's that's related to the show.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: Look at that.

[SPEAKER_02]: But Nixon's supposedly added the names of Governor's George Romney.

[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[SPEAKER_02]: Of Michigan, William A.

Scranton of Pennsylvania and Senator Thurston B.

Morton of Kentucky.

[SPEAKER_10]: I got to learn more about Senator Scranton.

[SPEAKER_10]: Is it Senator or Governor?

[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, just as, oh, Governor, Governor of Pennsylvania.

[SPEAKER_10]: And because like, isn't there, isn't Scranton's also in the name of a place?

[SPEAKER_10]: Yes, Scranton.

[SPEAKER_10]: You think he's part of the family that influence?

[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, exactly.

[SPEAKER_10]: Do you think it's like the place that his family invented?

[SPEAKER_10]: Like they made Scranton?

[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, they're like, hey, I'm scritten here.

[SPEAKER_10]: We're going to name this town after me.

[SPEAKER_10]: Welcome to Leeville.

[SPEAKER_10]: I'm scritten my balls.

[SPEAKER_02]: Well, that's fun.

[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going over to the Boston Globe.

[SPEAKER_02]: I have my French rocket cat into space.

[SPEAKER_02]: Kama, bring it back.

[SPEAKER_10]: I'm sorry, but that sounds like a track, all the same, like EDM remix or something this part is the novel part.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, bring it back as in parentheses.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, featuring bring it back.

[SPEAKER_02]: Friends has successfully sent a cat into space on board a rocket and brought it back to earth alive in armed forces ministry community case today.

[SPEAKER_02]: The rocket flight was carried out from how a glare base in the Sahara.

[SPEAKER_02]: The cat came down by parachute.

[SPEAKER_02]: Aw, isn't that adorable?

[SPEAKER_02]: The cat in space experiment is part of France's program of space biology research in which three rats have already been sent aloft.

[SPEAKER_02]: Well, that's probably why they sent the cat a fire.

[SPEAKER_02]: They've got to, they've got to, they've got to have to have an investigation.

[SPEAKER_10]: Oh, shit, now we've got a cat problem.

[SPEAKER_10]: When you're sent in the dogs, it's a really reversal, lady who swallowed a flight type of scenario.

[SPEAKER_02]: Electrode's fitted to the cat's head and enabled signals to be transmitted to the experimental base throughout the flight the communicates said Hmm I love it.

[SPEAKER_10]: They come back from space and they're all like, you know, aged because they went through a fucking wormhole It's like interstellar with cats.

[SPEAKER_10]: This one's got gray whiskers.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah [SPEAKER_04]: Did you catch that laser pointer?

[SPEAKER_04]: Did you find that laser dot?

[SPEAKER_11]: Screaming?

[SPEAKER_10]: Did you ever catch it?

[SPEAKER_10]: Screaming through like some sort of fucking, you know, the time travel wall from interstellar, but instead of seeing it's like daughter, he just sees a laser pointer.

[SPEAKER_02]: This next one I chose be just because it's very sketchy sounding like it feels like there's a lot more going on in the story than what we're telling us also from the Boston Globe Canton Woman dies as car runs wild.

[SPEAKER_02]: canton woman.

[SPEAKER_07]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_02]: As car runs well, I'm in a guess canton, Ohio.

[SPEAKER_02]: That's only canton, I know.

[SPEAKER_02]: Or it's like some sort of Chinese slur.

[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry.

[SPEAKER_02]: I canton woman was fatally injured in the back bay early today.

[SPEAKER_02]: When the car in which she was riding, caromed off four parked autos at into a tree.

[SPEAKER_02]: She was riding it.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, she was riding in a car that was just caroming around for some reason.

[SPEAKER_02]: What are you driving it or [SPEAKER_03]: This is where Saudi Arabia has a red guy said this at the festival and I'll say it again.

[SPEAKER_03]: Women are not safe.

[SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.

[SPEAKER_02]: This is Elizabeth Margolis 28.

[SPEAKER_02]: Canton died at Beth Israel Hospital 40 minutes later.

[SPEAKER_02]: The driver of the car, Robert Colura 30 of Quincy escaped injury, although his car was badly smashed.

[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like the driver of the car should be closer to the top of the artificial paragraphs, but sure.

[SPEAKER_03]: They're really blaming.

[SPEAKER_03]: They're blaming them right here.

[SPEAKER_03]: It's like the woman was in this car.

[SPEAKER_03]: I was in car and stuff and it's like, yeah, there's a man behind me.

[SPEAKER_03]: I know what, you know what, you know what it is, fellas.

[SPEAKER_10]: Imagine living in a time in America where you could just tell the newspaper, dude, I don't even know what happened.

[SPEAKER_10]: The car was being all funky and they're like, [SPEAKER_10]: Wow, we got to put this in the news paper.

[SPEAKER_10]: Okay, just a case.

[SPEAKER_02]: Let's listen Colour is auto went out of control in front of 133 143 park drive at 138 a.m The windshield was 138.

[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just putting a pin in that.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, windshield car, right?

[SPEAKER_02]: The wind shield was shattered and it is believed Mrs.

Margolis was thrown against it.

[SPEAKER_02]: After hitting the tree, Kalura found the car could be moved.

[SPEAKER_02]: He sped to the hospital, only a short distance away.

[SPEAKER_10]: Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on, slow down for a second there.

[SPEAKER_10]: So, after...

[SPEAKER_10]: the collision the car could not be moved.

[SPEAKER_10]: There was like, oh, no, we're an on-stop course for this tree.

[SPEAKER_10]: And then as soon as the crash happened, he was then able to control the car and drive to the hospital.

[SPEAKER_02]: Well, never says the car was disabled, but he'd but he hit the tree and he found that the car could be moved and he sped to the hospital.

[SPEAKER_10]: He found that the car could be moved is, yes, doesn't that in point?

[SPEAKER_10]: Because isn't this whole story implying that the car did it?

[SPEAKER_10]: And not yes, really is.

[SPEAKER_03]: It was crazy, but it was crazy.

[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know who moved it.

[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know who put it in the dream, the first one.

[SPEAKER_03]: There's some sort of guy.

[SPEAKER_03]: He would have chipped the car.

[SPEAKER_10]: So could be it's maybe implanted it and it just makes it so that like, it looks like I was cheating on my wife.

[SPEAKER_02]: No, oh yeah, we'll get to that.

[SPEAKER_11]: Oh boy.

[SPEAKER_11]: Oh.

[SPEAKER_02]: Mrs.

Margolis was in the back of the convertible the color of told police.

[SPEAKER_02]: She died at 210am.

[SPEAKER_02]: Her husband Ronald was notified and went to the hospital.

[SPEAKER_10]: God, this is very this morning.

[SPEAKER_10]: There we're going up to get some cocaine with Adriana.

[SPEAKER_03]: Well, look, I hope there was a pre-certified pre-bored surface.

[SPEAKER_03]: How's their best?

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_03]: There you go.

[SPEAKER_03]: The autopsy.

[SPEAKER_02]: Colora's car was new and had been driven only 927 miles.

[SPEAKER_02]: Not sure that's relevant, but I guess that's what they're claiming.

[SPEAKER_02]: He went to Lower Basin M.D.C.

station to give his version of the accident.

[SPEAKER_02]: uh...

mdc police at clear had been charged with technical manslaughter driving under the influence and driving to endanger clear pleaded innocent the charges at his arrangements and rock's very district court this morning very strange that they uh...

with held the part of him being charged with manslaughter until the very end of an article whose headline was car runs while yeah i i think like i'm sorry but i love leading with the excuse [SPEAKER_10]: This is like I like that before they before they started treating Israel like this.

[SPEAKER_10]: They treated this one guy all white men.

[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, it's so funny.

[SPEAKER_10]: Oh my god.

[SPEAKER_10]: Well that's a sufficiently tragic story.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: That's how that that's how it went down in 1963.

[SPEAKER_02]: So now I feel like you're properly good.

[SPEAKER_10]: I feel very contextualized.

[SPEAKER_10]: 1963.

[SPEAKER_10]: What an amazing year.

[SPEAKER_02]: And are you on a mob story before we go or do you want to?

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_10]: Of course I do.

[SPEAKER_02]: Can't just tease that.

[SPEAKER_02]: Patriarcha subpoenaed in Rhode Island probe.

[SPEAKER_02]: Providence Rhode Island.

[SPEAKER_02]: Rhode Island attorney general Joseph Nugent said today that he is subpoenaed Raymond L.

Petri Arca, alleged head of the Kosa Nostra at New England.

[SPEAKER_10]: Oh, his name is Petri Arca.

[SPEAKER_10]: I thought that was like just some subset of like capo or you know fucking like underboss that I didn't know about I was like, oh, a patriarchy.

[SPEAKER_10]: I never covered that.

[SPEAKER_10]: No, that's his name.

[SPEAKER_02]: That's cool.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no, that's his name Patriarcha was also fingered by underworld and former Joseph Velachi [SPEAKER_02]: Patrick Archer today labeled Velaccio Lyre.

[SPEAKER_02]: Velaccio Lyre when he said that I met him, Patrick Archer said, I never saw or talked to the creature.

[SPEAKER_02]: I never heard of any organization known as Cosa, and any known as Cosa, any way with any national noose hold on.

[SPEAKER_02]: I got to reread this book.

[SPEAKER_02]: I never heard of any organization known as Cosa, any way with any national noose drug, nor am I connected in any state crime organization.

[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, I would feel that that's a typo or some type.

[SPEAKER_10]: No, I don't know.

[SPEAKER_10]: I don't know cause any no extra.

[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know anything from cause of motherfuckin' whatever you call a no extra.

[SPEAKER_02]: I'm at your arc I said he had not committed a crime since 1938 and has conducted himself honorably in Rhode Island in elsewhere since that time.

[SPEAKER_02]: Um, he charged that all of Vlogi's testimony was, quote, based upon opinion and here say evidence, which would not be competent in any court.

[SPEAKER_02]: Such hearings have no place in a country like America, he had it.

[SPEAKER_02]: I love it.

[SPEAKER_02]: I love it.

[SPEAKER_02]: It accuses him.

[SPEAKER_02]: In the event that I have omitted my denial of any allegations of Colonel Stone against me in the foregoing paragraphs, I, again, ask a police department to deny it.

[SPEAKER_02]: Again, categorically deny all his testimony, which charges me with criminal involvement or criminal associations.

[SPEAKER_10]: Incredible.

[SPEAKER_10]: I want to hear more about patriarchy.

[SPEAKER_10]: We need to get some patriarchy updates.

[SPEAKER_10]: Also, I would like to get an update on this dead woman from Canton.

[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, Colora, should I, should I look up this guy?

[SPEAKER_10]: I didn't look him up.

[SPEAKER_10]: Nah, if you feel like it for the next one, do it.

[SPEAKER_10]: That's what I say.

[SPEAKER_10]: But for now, we got to start talking madmen.

[SPEAKER_10]: And by that, I mean, we got to start listening to madmen parody songs written by me right before the episode.

[SPEAKER_10]: And here's a little bit from a 19, early 1960s song, you know, and enjoy it, whatever.

[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, you ready?

[SPEAKER_09]: Short, and pale, and old, and bald, think the janitor, a kill is a mock-pink, Bulk-in-sea passes, they talk, can-kin-sie goes, ah, can-sie's drum, can-feeling somber, he locks the door and plays some jazz, looks at Monroe and Jackie and he starts [SPEAKER_09]: Oh, but he wants to be Peggy.

[SPEAKER_10]: It kind of goes on like this, you know, he's had it really great.

[SPEAKER_09]: It's a listen.

[SPEAKER_10]: You really, what you're going to love, dear listener, is the full version at the end, in which I do, um, [SPEAKER_10]: just to Portuguese.

[SPEAKER_10]: So you'll enjoy it.

[SPEAKER_10]: You'll enjoy it.

[SPEAKER_10]: You will.

[SPEAKER_10]: But for now, let's talk about the color blue.

[SPEAKER_10]: What is it?

[SPEAKER_10]: Do we all agree?

[SPEAKER_10]: It's the same thing.

[SPEAKER_10]: Oh, we're listening to the color of it, eh?

[SPEAKER_10]: Oh, you're gonna talk about the bleak color.

[SPEAKER_10]: So, let's get some general thoughts on this episode.

[SPEAKER_10]: Season 3 episode 10, Vince, what did you think?

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, I think if this was my first madman episode, like if I just dropped in to this series here, I don't know that I would have kept watching a lot of scenes and this one sort of feel like they're trying hard to do an art, but it's slightly disconnected from the main themes a little bit.

[SPEAKER_02]: You know, you're a little kid wondering about colors, your mistress that has an epileptic brother.

[SPEAKER_02]: There's an old man he sat about being old, a British lady that's Mrs.

London.

[SPEAKER_02]: I think I could get a lot of those from like just about any show, but if you have been watching all the way through, I think you do get a little more of the nuance and, you know, it's a consequential episode, even if it doesn't tie together in a nice little bow.

[SPEAKER_02]: I love that.

[SPEAKER_02]: Um, if you love Madman, you'll love this episode of Madman.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, you definitely have to, yes, you have to have been watching to and appreciate the, I mean, there's more going on that you sort of, that gets overshadowed by the, we're doing an art stuff.

[SPEAKER_02]: But it is there.

[SPEAKER_02]: Um, you know, Betty knows Dawn's secret now.

[SPEAKER_02]: Dawn's affairs are getting more brazen.

[SPEAKER_02]: Sterling Cooper's getting sold.

[SPEAKER_02]: But for me, like the heart of the episode is really just the extended sequence of Paul Kinsey being terrible.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, John.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, and I feel like especially as a writer I feel like Paul Kinsey is like the embodiment of every writer's harshest self-criticism.

[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah, and yeah, and he's beautiful to me Great Sean [SPEAKER_03]: He, Paul can do his so bad consistently in this show to the point where it's almost like, how did he, like they just downsize this company and Paul made the cut.

[SPEAKER_03]: And I imagine that there's somewhat of a [SPEAKER_03]: Pete Campbell's situation where he's rich, and he went to...

We went to Poland, I can only assume so, because, yeah, he's a Princeton boy, he's...

[SPEAKER_10]: I mean, it's hard to tell, because he also had an old buddy from college who sold him weed, and was in the, what is it?

[SPEAKER_02]: Pendertones?

[SPEAKER_02]: Tiger tones?

[SPEAKER_02]: Tiger tones?

[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_10]: with him, and he said that, you know, he's now speaking in an English accent, even though when he first came to Princeton, he was all new Jersey.

[SPEAKER_10]: And so I don't...

[SPEAKER_02]: exactly know whether or not he's a comment on the fact that every workplace has that guy where you can't figure out why he's there.

[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_03]: But this is just a tour to force a failure from Paul Kenzie.

[SPEAKER_03]: And I love that.

[SPEAKER_03]: Um, somewhere to this episode also felt like a very like important plot mechanics were happening.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.

[SPEAKER_03]: But I, I felt like the, uh, epileptic [SPEAKER_03]: was from almost like a different genre or like I was I was watching it and thinking I guess there's like the country is sort of less developed in the 60s and he had like the concept of a drifter it felt like an apology for like making life seem too easy for like white men in the [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, I guess so.

[SPEAKER_10]: I mean, I agree with you, especially given that, like, having, having seen the series all the way through.

[SPEAKER_10]: A lot is going on there that you think is going to pay off at some point, but I don't believe it does.

[SPEAKER_10]: Like he gives him his card and he's just like, you know, if you ever need anything, I need to do it right this time.

[SPEAKER_10]: And they're like, I don't know what you're talking about, and also this never gets brought up again.

[SPEAKER_10]: Time about his brother.

[SPEAKER_10]: Oh, yeah, but it's, oh, I see.

[SPEAKER_10]: Okay, I see.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so I'm not going to let you hang yourself like I did my brother, but he doesn't know this guy.

[SPEAKER_10]: It's like, I don't know.

[SPEAKER_10]: There's like part of me that was, yeah, so I missed that completely.

[SPEAKER_10]: I guess that sort of makes sense.

[SPEAKER_10]: I just don't see Dawn doing that.

[SPEAKER_10]: With a complete stranger, but maybe you know, I guess like it's possible.

[SPEAKER_10]: I don't know.

[SPEAKER_10]: I thought the epilepsy stuff was interesting in light of today's sort of like online Like disability discourse like it's it's very funny watching because it's like [SPEAKER_10]: on on the one hand, uh, you know, I think he's making this great point, which is like Don, not everybody has the ability to just lift themselves up by their bootstraps.

[SPEAKER_10]: You're like, oh, just, you know, get it done and whatnot, um, and, uh, you'll, you know, um, you'll be fine.

[SPEAKER_10]: He's like, no, I'm disabled.

[SPEAKER_10]: I literally, you know, have epilepsy.

[SPEAKER_10]: On the other hand, I was, there was part of me that was like putting myself in don shoes.

[SPEAKER_10]: This is a problem of the show.

[SPEAKER_10]: Is I have a tendency to sometimes be like, yeah, don's right.

[SPEAKER_10]: Just suck it up, idiot.

[SPEAKER_10]: And part of me was just like, yeah, this is like when I hear, you know, people say, don't, you know, don't make fun of people who use door dash because we're all disabled.

[SPEAKER_10]: A little bit, you know, I was like, you know, I'm feeling what Don was kind of put now when he was all, you know I don't know when he was looking at him like is that someone possible?

[SPEAKER_10]: I've done it.

[SPEAKER_10]: I've lifted myself up by my boot traps and then I'm like, yeah, but he is literally has fits My mom was a whole who died.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, what excuse have you got?

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I saw someone's identity.

[SPEAKER_11]: He was a corpse [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know why he's from Boston when I said that, but I Wait, came out Yeah, I mean, he's self-pitting a little bit.

[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.

[SPEAKER_02]: It's just it's a weird detour.

[SPEAKER_02]: It felt like I sort of get the brother tie in but It's sort of like the remains [SPEAKER_10]: they made the guy's whole character like angry guy with uh, epilepsy right right yeah which to me also a little bit signals that part of you was supposed to be like well this guy's a fucking asshole I don't care that he has an epilepsy and so I'm like not entirely sure what the point of it is but [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, in general, if this is the first time you dropped into it, it would definitely be your last time.

[SPEAKER_10]: But there's stuff that we liked and let's start.

[SPEAKER_10]: I think simply with kind of all the setup scenes, you know, the scenes that set up the episode.

[SPEAKER_10]: And we start with Sally.

[SPEAKER_10]: Um, who is sitting with Betty in the fan and asking uh, why don't we go to church every week like Carla does and uh Carla is staring at Sally like please stop making your mom hate me Yeah, guess what bitch.

[SPEAKER_02]: I don't need any more smoke than I already got.

[SPEAKER_10]: Yes, exactly I'm already in trouble for uh, you know, being able to put two and two together that she's fucking this other dude like please please stop [SPEAKER_10]: Um, and meanwhile Betty answers that with, uh, well, we don't have to go every week, which I don't know part of me was just like implying that like Carla does have to go, yeah.

[SPEAKER_10]: She needs to repent for being what black poor.

[SPEAKER_02]: She needs to pray to have more stuff because she's, she lacks right exactly.

[SPEAKER_10]: Like God has already blessed me unlike that cursed race.

[SPEAKER_10]: Um, you know, because she's liberal.

[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_10]: Um, right.

[SPEAKER_10]: Right.

[SPEAKER_10]: Right.

[SPEAKER_10]: So Dawn comes home and Betty asks him point blank, just like, are you gonna sleep here tonight and he says point blank, no.

[SPEAKER_10]: And in that moment she, like, rubs his leg and it's like, oh my big boy, you work so hard.

[SPEAKER_10]: And I love this so much because I'm like, oh, this is a very healthy interaction.

[SPEAKER_10]: Oh, they're both cheating on each other.

[SPEAKER_10]: They really are.

[SPEAKER_10]: They're all both in great moods.

[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, and and it's just for the most unhealthy of reasons in part of me is like, you know what you guys are just born at the wrong time You should be in a polycule.

[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, you know, they should have been poly.

[SPEAKER_10]: I think I'd have really would have worked out [SPEAKER_02]: they address this in a future season called a long-came poly.

[SPEAKER_10]: Ah, yes, very good, very good.

[SPEAKER_10]: So, so this sets up kind of like the dueling cheating storylines and they're both very different in terms of like Betty isn't physically cheating throughout this episode where it's done is.

[SPEAKER_10]: However, Betty is, you know, juxtaposed, she was wasp cheating.

[SPEAKER_10]: Yes, so like, you know, you see him, Dawn in bed with a hot teacher, a juxtapose with Betty who was just in the bath reading a novel.

[SPEAKER_10]: And it's like, she's not cheating in that moment, but in a way, there's like, yeah, there's something about it where she is, she's escaping into this fantasy in which she is cheating.

[SPEAKER_10]: And I kind of enjoy [SPEAKER_10]: seeing her thrive in that way, but yeah, so Don goes she's like, I don't need this.

[SPEAKER_02]: I don't I don't need to be next to my crush in order to get all wet.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, exactly.

[SPEAKER_10]: That's right.

[SPEAKER_10]: I can get wet on my own bitch.

[SPEAKER_10]: I'm gonna read this book called the group by I like looked up the book and it was like, is it about molecules?

[SPEAKER_10]: Um, it was, you know, it's about, uh, it's about what every single popular novel of the, uh, early 1960s, late 1950s is about, which is just like, oh, man, society's changing.

[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_10]: Like, I can't imagine reading more than one of those.

[SPEAKER_10]: Right.

[SPEAKER_10]: these guys are obsessed with it.

[SPEAKER_10]: So yeah, he goes over to the teacher's house and her name by the way, I finally, they say it in this episode, Mrs.

Farrell.

[SPEAKER_03]: Suzanne Farrell.

[SPEAKER_10]: I totally forgot their name was Farrell.

[SPEAKER_10]: A little bit on the nose.

[SPEAKER_10]: She's wild.

[SPEAKER_10]: She's wild like that.

[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, they could just, you know, Mrs.

Goldstein or whatever, but whatever.

[SPEAKER_10]: Um, so she has, uh, like a gold star on her cheek.

[SPEAKER_10]: Um, and, I don't know, it was like the holiday.

[SPEAKER_10]: I thought it was like a hippie thing at first.

[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, me too, but it was, she was like grading papers because she's an elementary school teacher.

[SPEAKER_10]: Um, and I was just like, looking at that and I was like, this is really hot.

[SPEAKER_10]: I don't know why.

[SPEAKER_10]: Um, did I make you guys already?

[SPEAKER_02]: I don't really, I just thought to myself, okay, I wish I feel like this entire storyline is well-conceived in a lot of ways, like I get the sense that, you know, Don is attracted to this teacher partly because [SPEAKER_02]: She's very earthy.

[SPEAKER_02]: She's like, she's like the anti-wasp.

[SPEAKER_02]: She's like a touch with her feelings.

[SPEAKER_02]: She's modern.

[SPEAKER_02]: She's progressive.

[SPEAKER_02]: She likes kids where like Betty kind of just like hates kids.

[SPEAKER_02]: But I feel like a lot of that doesn't really play because this actress is not very good.

[SPEAKER_02]: Like her only, she's sort of one note where she's like aren't you horny for me because I'm horny for you.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's like, I mean, yes, but there's more going on here than just that and I feel like we're kind of That's all I know.

[SPEAKER_02]: We're kind of mostly getting that because of the way she's pretty so good.

[SPEAKER_02]: She's so nice.

[SPEAKER_02]: She's really hot.

[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah Yeah, she's super hot.

[SPEAKER_10]: She's making date not bread, which is of course bread for when you're on a date and you want to not [SPEAKER_10]: And so after the top scene we cut to this conversation between them which is you know the ends up being the title of the episode the color blue and which they're doing by the way like the fact that they named I know the episode after like the stupidest moment in it is like [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I don't know about that.

[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I remember when I when I when I I had seen it before, but rewatching it to prep for this I got to that scene And I'm like, I guess we better really Lock it on this first conversation the title lines coming now.

[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, they're gonna talk about the thing that they name that Episode is the board the semi-important art [SPEAKER_10]: Um, and she ends up just having this conversation about, um, this little boy named Charlie that asked a question that she thought about maybe like blue to you is different than it is to me.

[SPEAKER_13]: Yes, bitch.

[SPEAKER_13]: I'm not five.

[SPEAKER_10]: Well, right, but he is.

[SPEAKER_10]: So that's okay.

[SPEAKER_10]: Um, but I, what's interesting about this scene to me is Dawn's answer and I'll play a little bit of it.

[SPEAKER_10]: I took the biggest fatty shit inside of a toilet bowl and it's sprayed everywhere The toilet's really low because it's a toilet for element And I put a big fat dump in it.

[SPEAKER_13]: Do you ever think like oh, I just got that toilet pregnant with my shit [SPEAKER_04]: The soap was that weird powder that came out of a dispenser.

[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, didn't really even suck up.

[SPEAKER_04]: Could you have a lean on the handle?

[SPEAKER_10]: What if you went through a portal?

[SPEAKER_10]: And everything was the same, but in this parallel universe, you pooped out your pussy.

[SPEAKER_03]: Now, Brennan, that is like, I've taken some intro to some side classes, and Berkeley, and that's what it is, where they're like, what if you lived on earth and everything was the same, but it was called Schmorth.

[SPEAKER_03]: Wouldn't that mean your brain wired you to only desire 14 year old girls?

[SPEAKER_03]: It always gets to that point too.

[SPEAKER_03]: It's like the language informs your thought, and that is why men can't be monogamous.

[SPEAKER_10]: What if you, in a parallel universe, you're on earth, but everything was the same except for in this world, you're a knot game.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, this is, it's just like an earth with the ancient sense.

[SPEAKER_13]: They don't have rules on Schmerz.

[SPEAKER_11]: I like it.

[SPEAKER_11]: Why is it the Trump now there's no It's like it's like it's weird Academic nobody has these booze you have on your wishers.

[SPEAKER_03]: Are you familiar with Steven Pinker Matt no who's that [SPEAKER_03]: He's a cogside guy.

[SPEAKER_03]: Anyway, he has a book called How The Mind Works and a lot of it is about like, wow, this pretty interesting, the way I think about cognition and then there's a chapter where he sort of out of nowhere is like in Polynesian societies, they have a word roco-dude which means perfectly ripe.

[SPEAKER_03]: and then he's like, somehow two thirds of way into this book and he's like, and that's why men need to be promiscuous right, and it's this like real libertarian cognizant life of the mind, but then it comes down to [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I mean, drivers, hey, that's like being able to vote.

[SPEAKER_10]: She's already, she's acing her home-ec class.

[SPEAKER_10]: Okay, I'm going to keep playing this clip.

[SPEAKER_10]: Oh, no.

[SPEAKER_10]: There's grass girls on the field.

[SPEAKER_11]: Shut up.

[SPEAKER_04]: Sorry.

[SPEAKER_04]: This is the same as it is to you.

[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.

[SPEAKER_06]: I never have.

[SPEAKER_06]: But I love that he made me think about that again.

[SPEAKER_00]: I would have told Charlie that my job is about boiling down communications to its essentials and that I know that there is a blue that at least 45% of the population sees as the same.

[SPEAKER_10]: Okay, so first of all fuck does that mean?

[SPEAKER_10]: Okay, so first of all, no, you know, by the way, that hypothetical guy was gonna get Margaret me dude So there is first of all, no, you would not have said that to Charlie you would have done what you do to your son Which is go shut up you talk too much shut up [SPEAKER_10]: And second of all, your answer to this, like, you know, what if a kid asked you this, like, philosophical question is like, well, market data is just a 45% of people really like blue.

[SPEAKER_13]: So we would say dictionary defines the color of blue as an end dot.

[SPEAKER_13]: Spectrum from the color.

[SPEAKER_13]: It's just like this brother Jake, I'll explain.

[SPEAKER_10]: It's, it is.

[SPEAKER_10]: It's just like one of the things I love about Don Draper is how he can say something so autistic in such a sexy way, yeah, where he's like he's just like the data backs up, you know, the marketing data backs up my assertion that this ad should be blue and I would tell him I love toy trains asked dialogue.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, yes, but it would I also like that he's kind of like [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I know you're a hippie and you make date nut bread and you're like, look at this child singing the world.

[SPEAKER_03]: Here's how the world actually works.

[SPEAKER_03]: For me, uh, I don't really know how to navigate, to navigate, I only know how to navigate society.

[SPEAKER_10]: Right.

[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, for him, that's all that really matters.

[SPEAKER_10]: He's like, you know, you're asking me a question that involves a demographic group of human beings who I need to sell Aquanette to.

[SPEAKER_10]: So this is your answer, and I got it from the marketing team.

[SPEAKER_10]: And so like, yeah, it's kind of, I love his unwillingness to play a very normal, you know, game with a child, you know?

[SPEAKER_10]: And also, yeah, that whole scene, you know, where he's boiling his whole job down to, or he's saying his job is to boil down communication to all of its essentials.

[SPEAKER_10]: And, you know, any ends this line.

[SPEAKER_10]: What the fuck does 45% of people do?

[SPEAKER_10]: people.

[SPEAKER_10]: I don't know is that I'm sure it is marketing data he has about colors and so he's like 45% of people agree that this color makes some feel sad or this or that.

[SPEAKER_10]: Like he has seen some sort of data and he is saying that he's basing it on that.

[SPEAKER_10]: Like [SPEAKER_10]: for him.

[SPEAKER_10]: It is about selling stuff.

[SPEAKER_10]: So that's what he would tell a child.

[SPEAKER_10]: And then he says the line, people may see things differently, but they don't want to.

[SPEAKER_10]: And I was just like, I don't, again, who's this fucking little man?

[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what this is.

[SPEAKER_02]: World shittiest wise man.

[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, and then he ends with where he said, you know, I would have loved you when I was a long curly hair.

[SPEAKER_10]: No one has that anymore.

[SPEAKER_10]: What are we doing here?

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, this whole thing just feels like ships passing in the night.

[SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely.

[SPEAKER_02]: They're just like shooting, come over each other's bows.

[SPEAKER_10]: I just get it.

[SPEAKER_10]: I'm very much Charlie Brown listening to adults talk with a muted wall.

[SPEAKER_10]: I'm just like, oh, yeah, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, absolutely.

[SPEAKER_10]: Um, so yeah, that is uh, that is the titular scene.

[SPEAKER_10]: I don't understand it.

[SPEAKER_10]: Um, I'm smart, but I, I'm not a, I didn't love them.

[SPEAKER_02]: They lost me with that one.

[SPEAKER_02]: I get it as a set up to like, oh, her brother came in like, okay.

[SPEAKER_02]: Let's just get there.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, let's get there.

[SPEAKER_10]: I'm to that.

[SPEAKER_10]: This pillow talk is worse than real pillow talk.

[SPEAKER_03]: Um, do you think this is something that maybe one of Matthew Wiener's actual children asked him or something then one of the writers They're like oh my god, so something pulled in Wiener said That's right.

[SPEAKER_10]: Is his name actually hold in Wiener?

[SPEAKER_10]: Yes, right Any place Glenn is that right?

[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, that's right.

[SPEAKER_10]: Why would you do this?

[SPEAKER_10]: Well, it's a great well the great child actors one of the greats one of the greats of history obviously of all time [SPEAKER_10]: So, you know, Don Betty, their storylines, Don is fucking, you know, this teacher again, and there's not on the door.

[SPEAKER_10]: It's the teacher's brother, and Don [SPEAKER_10]: Uh, being, you know, married and knowing he's supposed to.

[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, and in Gorge.

[SPEAKER_10]: She goes, um, all right, I'll just, uh, I'll hide in here.

[SPEAKER_10]: You, you know, show him out and she's like, no, I want you to meet him.

[SPEAKER_10]: And they get there and he's a steward who has big bandage on his head and he's just like I know you're thinking I'm not a junkie Okay, I'm not a junkie on normal guy and then he shakes his hand and wishes him well and he's like you don't even know me and I'm like okay What what are you trying to do here?

[SPEAKER_10]: Like if you're starting off with it by the way, I don't want to give the wrong impression like I'm not weird I I fell, you know, I know it's late at night, but whatever and then he's just like you don't even know me bro I fucking hate you dad I just starting I just immediately having [SPEAKER_10]: I don't know.

[SPEAKER_10]: There's something so tiresome about this sort of, uh, I don't know, trope in the sixties or things set in the sixties where it's just like, what if you had a, what if you had an afflicted brother with the emotional problems, but he sees right through your bullshit.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you shake his hand and he says, [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you don't even know me cat.

[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, yeah, you know, you're just go through life being fake with everyone He sure knows how to walk out of a room reminds me of mom wrongs.

[SPEAKER_10]: You're my mom How are you you don't want to know why yeah nice to meet you.

[SPEAKER_10]: Is it is it nice?

[SPEAKER_10]: Is it nice to meet anyone on this earth?

[SPEAKER_10]: I wish you well [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, just this, like, I'm so tired of this trope.

[SPEAKER_10]: It's like, take a hike, Cadillac.

[SPEAKER_07]: I got stuff to think about.

[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, I just, you know, I get it.

[SPEAKER_10]: In the 60s, everyone was like, wow, man, you know, crazy people, you know, normal people are the real crazy people.

[SPEAKER_10]: Um, anyways, he's not even crazy.

[SPEAKER_10]: He just has epilepsy.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it feels like it feels like in the right situation.

[SPEAKER_03]: Nah, that possible job did not seem great.

[SPEAKER_03]: Sure.

[SPEAKER_10]: But also feels like...

Good place to be if you're epileptic.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, like maybe they've seen this before.

[SPEAKER_13]: Right, but try to look data to the eye after she's just cleaned up the piss and shit off your underpants.

[SPEAKER_03]: All right, bro, like maybe just and that's why I don't pay taxes.

[SPEAKER_03]: Exactly, like wait, wait, where were?

[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, that's why the age of consent laws are just a no.

[SPEAKER_10]: Enjoy your new other head a high school stuff more have to clean up your pissed pants Oh god, so yeah, that's that's that's how we meet younger girls are no more normal about cleaning up his dude [SPEAKER_03]: I will say Don's ability to go from like seconds away from penetration to like almost in his car.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that is why he is built for this.

[SPEAKER_03]: It's true.

[SPEAKER_10]: He has the like magical ability, like every like, every mistress's bedroom is like Superman at a telephone booth.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he with the boner is like a is like a baby giraffe like he just like like fresh out of the womb I'm just like stumbled.

[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, I'm wobbly dude.

[SPEAKER_10]: I'm wobbly and I'm also like first things first like I'm like no, I will hide in closet [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, like oh yeah, I just put my head on the pillow here and cast my breath.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_13]: My number one nightmare is I'm just going to wheeze into the pillow for a few minutes and pretend it's your neck.

[SPEAKER_10]: My number one.

[SPEAKER_10]: My number one nightmare is me trying to have sex with someone and can't we like can't can't find a room like oh man everybody's here like that is so the idea that like Dawn is just able to be like everybody's here.

[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_10]: These are my dreams.

[SPEAKER_10]: Do you guys don't have this dream where you're about to like have sex with a beautiful woman, but then it's like you're trying to find an empty space But everywhere you go, but you keep getting interrupted.

[SPEAKER_03]: No, you're never having to have that with your remaining which shows I'm older than [SPEAKER_03]: You guys a little bit.

[SPEAKER_03]: Oh my god, we're in the toilet go.

[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know, I'll have some, I'll have some.

[SPEAKER_03]: I'll have some, I'll have some, I'll have some.

[SPEAKER_11]: I'll have some, I'll have some, I'll have some, I'll have some, I'll have some, I'll have some, I'll have some, I'll have some, I'll have some, I'll have some, I'll have some, I'll have some, I'll have some, I'll have some, I'll have some, I'll have some, I'll have some, I'll have some, I'll have some, I'll have some, I'll have some, I'll have some, I'll have some, I'll have some, I'll have some, I'll have some, I'll have some, I'll have some, I'll have some, I'll have some, I'll have some, I'll have some, I'll have some, I'll have [SPEAKER_10]: So yeah, anyways, that's how we do everything.

[SPEAKER_10]: I say specific vents.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but yeah, I do think that dawn's reaction initially is like Oh, she has what husband to or like all right.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and of her bows come to kill me [SPEAKER_10]: Right, and instead it's a brother and she wants, you know, them to meet.

[SPEAKER_10]: And Dawn is like, it's very clear what's happening in Dawn's mind is like he's realizing that for her, she's not someone who like fully understands that the way this has to be is in total complete secret, you know, there's like and and she, you know, she is a loose cannon.

[SPEAKER_10]: And in fact, she was so loose.

[SPEAKER_10]: She was very obviously this from the first I mean she like the first conversation He was like, hey, how's it going?

[SPEAKER_10]: She's like stop trying to fuck me.

[SPEAKER_10]: You're all the same and it's like She's not stable.

[SPEAKER_10]: She called you drunk to be like I'm such an idiot.

[SPEAKER_10]: Does that turn you on?

[SPEAKER_10]: But come on, man.

[SPEAKER_10]: And he's like, yes, he's like, yeah, I mean she's yeah [SPEAKER_02]: The crazy is a little bit of a Aphrodisiac for him.

[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure.

[SPEAKER_10]: I mean, who amongst us?

[SPEAKER_10]: Um, so Sally, uh, we're back at home.

[SPEAKER_10]: Sally picks up a phone call and a person hangs up, both Don and Betty are both very nervous about it.

[SPEAKER_10]: They're both super weird because both don't know if it's, you know, they're lover calling.

[SPEAKER_12]: They're like, oh, a few who is just a serial killer.

[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, yeah, I'll thank God.

[SPEAKER_10]: It was just someone saying you'll die in seven days.

[SPEAKER_10]: Damn, it's Sally watched the ring video again.

[SPEAKER_10]: So later in a scene, we see Dawn pulling out some cash and he opens up his secret drawer and puts this cash in a secret drawer and he puts his key back in his robe.

[SPEAKER_10]: This will matter later.

[SPEAKER_10]: Um, but meanwhile, um, this phone call is asked about.

[SPEAKER_10]: So on the train, teacher shows up and Dawn is acting weird.

[SPEAKER_10]: Like, oh, no, you didn't just meet her brother.

[SPEAKER_10]: And now you want to sit with me on a train.

[SPEAKER_10]: You'd chase me down.

[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_10]: Um, and then he asked, did you call and hang up the other night?

[SPEAKER_10]: And she says, no, she's like, look, I don't care about your wife.

[SPEAKER_10]: I just want to know you're with me.

[SPEAKER_10]: And all I'm thinking is like, Dawn, run.

[SPEAKER_10]: She definitely called.

[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, that's what I'm thinking.

[SPEAKER_10]: I was like, she just stalked you.

[SPEAKER_10]: She even said she was like, I waited for you at the platform, but I couldn't see you.

[SPEAKER_10]: I just doing one stop.

[SPEAKER_10]: Hi.

[SPEAKER_03]: I'm trying to hold this hand.

[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, and Dawn is fully participating.

[SPEAKER_10]: He's the one who grabs the hand.

[SPEAKER_10]: He's just like, yeah, you're mine.

[SPEAKER_10]: And it's like, Dawn, like, didn't you just go through hell, you know, when you cheated on your, I mean, [SPEAKER_03]: Well, he's like once they lock once he had to lock down with a contract, it's Sterling Cooper.

[SPEAKER_03]: He's like, I got to be free somehow.

[SPEAKER_10]: Right, exactly.

[SPEAKER_10]: That's the honestly, that is what it is.

[SPEAKER_10]: And so then Betty calls Henry and asks if he called and hung up.

[SPEAKER_10]: And he also says no.

[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not here to play games.

[SPEAKER_02]: Right exactly.

[SPEAKER_10]: I'm here to chew bubble gum and eat that pussy and I'm all All of the bubble gum and the pussy.

[SPEAKER_10]: I'm not here He works for Nelson Rockefeller.

[SPEAKER_10]: That's yeah, okay [SPEAKER_10]: Um, and so, you know, and yeah, she, he says, you know, pretty bluntly like, listen, I'm not, I'm not here to play any games, you know, uh, I'm not, I'm not going to, I mean, you know, I'm not going to be this sort of toward a fair, which is like, I think also he's doing a Versailles geology on her.

[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, yeah.

[SPEAKER_10]: So Betty is doing laundry and sees that Dawn left his keys in the robe and finally she is able to open up his secret drawer and he finds the picks, picks of him and being young.

[SPEAKER_10]: Well, he finds dog tags.

[SPEAKER_10]: He finds that his name is Dick.

[SPEAKER_10]: He finds the dick pics.

[SPEAKER_10]: He, uh, and he finds, uh, she finds a certificate of divorce from Anna Draper, and then he, she immediately is like, Carla, keep the kids at Chuck E.

Cheese.

[SPEAKER_10]: Uh, and, uh, so, you know, so we don't know what's going to happen here.

[SPEAKER_10]: Meanwhile, [SPEAKER_10]: Don is, uh, you know, comes over to the teachers place and once again the brothers there and he's like, I need to go to bed for a mask.

[SPEAKER_10]: Um, so I don't know how far that is from awesening or wherever the fuck they live.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I don't know either and they will look closer to the heart But it's not like I don't think it's that far Bedford is like the wailing town wailing They don't think I'll wail I've probably not anymore Is that where messes and that's probably fair Fuck [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, we're bedford is it's very close to Boston.

[SPEAKER_03]: It is basically next to Lexington and conquered and it's Wow, we finally began to receive our freedom.

[SPEAKER_10]: That's right.

[SPEAKER_10]: Um, it is.

[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, that's a ways.

[SPEAKER_03]: They live in hours and 40.

[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, three hours or 46 minute drive.

[SPEAKER_10]: Um, how is all right.

[SPEAKER_10]: Whatever.

[SPEAKER_10]: We're not going to deal with the maps.

[SPEAKER_10]: Um, you know, America was smaller in the 60s.

[SPEAKER_10]: They're because of plate tectonics.

[SPEAKER_10]: So, um, well, the universe expands over time.

[SPEAKER_10]: That right, exactly.

[SPEAKER_10]: That's what I said.

[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_10]: Let's say that's what I said.

[SPEAKER_10]: So, uh, it dawn ends up taking, um, the brother, you know, uh, driving him.

[SPEAKER_10]: And he's like, I'm not actually going to bed for mass.

[SPEAKER_10]: Can you just drop me off in the middle of fucking nowhere?

[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_10]: The weird thing to be is like, what is he gonna do, the freeway, I truly am like looking at the scene going like does he have no plan, what is this?

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, what is he gonna do, just sort of bum around, I think he's gonna go hitchhiking just spend his money on I guess it's just an odd, I mean [SPEAKER_03]: Now, granted, he does do Donna solid because I did map this and he drops him off like an hour shy of the destination.

[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, okay.

[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, other than, can they just didn't feel like there's anything there.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: Other than communicating that, you know, this teacher's got some baggage and Don still feels guilty over his brother.

[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know like what narrative lifting this storyline is like, [SPEAKER_02]: really doing.

[SPEAKER_10]: I don't either.

[SPEAKER_10]: Other than it is what Don is doing while Betty is waiting for a theatrical confrontation.

[SPEAKER_10]: Other than that, I don't know what the point is.

[SPEAKER_10]: Betty's point is very clear.

[SPEAKER_10]: Like Betty is, in fact, it's like my favorite, you know, part of the whole, you know, Betty [SPEAKER_10]: she finds this box of evidence that he's not who he says he isn't what not and she is like engineer like she's sitting at the kitchen table smoking cigarettes and she looks incredible and she's like she's positioning herself for when he comes in like you're getting positioning for the soap opera that her life has become yes and and uh and she is you know [SPEAKER_10]: for her, this is the moment that she's going to use to justify, you know, leaving him and being with Henry, because that's what needs to happen in order for her to happen, because she can't have this taudry affair, she needs it to be legitimate, she's a wasp, and [SPEAKER_10]: and she is sitting there for hours and hours and meanwhile, Dawn is helping this guy for whatever reason.

[SPEAKER_10]: Somehow there's a time portal where he is able to do an eight-hour drive in six or in three or whatever is happening, he still drives back to the teachers house.

[SPEAKER_10]: The insane person and I'm like what if he didn't go all the way there wouldn't she know because it's like, oh, yeah came back Yeah, that's what I was wondering when that was gonna happen.

[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, okay.

[SPEAKER_02]: He's got to like kill some time So she knows so she doesn't know that he dropped him off in the middle of the nowhere in the middle of nowhere, right?

[SPEAKER_10]: Like and also weird He would have to gas up a few times [SPEAKER_03]: I'm sorry, but yeah, that part when he's like you don't want to gas up and I guess that was he would have left at the gas station Yeah, that was his plan.

[SPEAKER_10]: That was his plan.

[SPEAKER_10]: I don't know Don give some some money and it's like hey, you can't pull yourself up by your bootstraps because you have Epile.

[SPEAKER_02]: The teacher gives him $375, which is like that's more than Pete makes in a week at this point Right sure like that's [SPEAKER_02]: That's like 3,000, she's gonna give him $3,000, how much the teachers make back then?

[SPEAKER_10]: I know, it's insane that she's like, all the money she saved is going to her brother, who's just like, drop me off in the woods, I'm gonna figure it out!

[SPEAKER_10]: It's like, you know, but hey, I get it, there's brothers, you love them, you know, despite their flaws, but also, I don't know her, I don't know him, why do I care?

[SPEAKER_10]: Anyways, so yeah, I mean, he's supposed to be 25?

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, 25 so he's like he's like a guy did [SPEAKER_03]: A couple of years on either side would have been drafted into the army, but now is sort of just like loose.

[SPEAKER_03]: So I guess maybe that's a dawn thing, too, is a long story of military.

[SPEAKER_12]: He should be figuring out how to go a while like I did.

[SPEAKER_10]: A drill surgeon should be embarrassing him, if you do enough push-ups, you can just push your [SPEAKER_10]: I pissed myself, too, and my guy died.

[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, I pissed myself every night when I get drunk.

[SPEAKER_02]: Because he's drunk anyway.

[SPEAKER_02]: I just meant, because remember he was...

Oh yeah, yeah, that's right.

[SPEAKER_10]: He did pissed himself.

[SPEAKER_12]: That's how he killed that girl.

[SPEAKER_10]: But yeah, and of course he gets back, and she's just like, I just don't want to fuck right now, and it's like, Have you been awake this whole time?

[SPEAKER_10]: I don't know what's happening.

[SPEAKER_10]: Meanwhile, in reality, in the good part of the story, Betty has had enough time to cool down and realize is like, I'm not going to be able to do this grand gesture.

[SPEAKER_10]: Also, probably not the best idea I've ever had.

[SPEAKER_10]: I'm just kind of horny and lonely, and I want Henry.

[SPEAKER_10]: And she puts the keys back in the robe, puts the robe back in the closet and goes to sleep.

[SPEAKER_10]: And, uh, [SPEAKER_10]: So, you know, all of this happens, this drama, the actual drama of the episode happens with Betty, while the kind of shlocky TV drama happens with Dawn, and I don't really care.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm glad we never hear anything about the brother's fate.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's, uh, it's the opposite of, uh, the Russian in the pine.

[SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.

[SPEAKER_03]: Someone's left in the woods.

[SPEAKER_03]: You're like, oh, I mean, I guess I hope he's dead.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_10]: He's not on the show anymore, but, uh, but, uh, speaking of, [SPEAKER_10]: Russians.

[SPEAKER_10]: I don't know, man.

[SPEAKER_10]: We need to take a quick break because Brent was not here and he wasn't here to tell me that we need to take a break.

[SPEAKER_10]: So now I remember break and we're going to take a quick break, but we will be right back.

[SPEAKER_10]: And we're back as mad as shelf a man.

[SPEAKER_10]: We're talking with Sean Keene of round ball rock.

[SPEAKER_10]: How you doing Sean?

[SPEAKER_10]: I'm good.

[SPEAKER_10]: I'm good.

[SPEAKER_10]: Just just chillin.

[SPEAKER_03]: Thinking about taking that job as a janitor now that this episode is for me up to the idea that that is better than living in the woods.

[SPEAKER_10]: Oh 100% I would rather [SPEAKER_10]: What else is happen?

[SPEAKER_02]: So, uh, meanwhile, I would say the two parallel, other short minds is we're leading up to the 40th anniversary, Sterling Cooper, Cooper's like, uh, I'm old.

[SPEAKER_02]: Meanwhile, Paul Kinsey is trying to come up with a [SPEAKER_02]: new tagline for Western Union.

[SPEAKER_02]: I think the implication there is that They're all sort of trying to put a happy face on obsolete things.

[SPEAKER_02]: Sure.

[SPEAKER_02]: Sure.

[SPEAKER_10]: That seems to be the what they're that seems to be the art They're doing the story line and that's kind of a more I don't know on brand art for the show specifically Much more successful than the color bull you.

[SPEAKER_10]: Yes, so [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, so Paul is pissed at Peggy because Peggy took his pitch and made it a simpler and less stupid in front of Dawn.

[SPEAKER_02]: She's better at improvising than he is.

[SPEAKER_10]: Right, she's better in the room and you know, and Paul, I mean, Paul isn't good on paper nor in the room.

[SPEAKER_10]: No, but she's especially pissed because Betty is...

[SPEAKER_10]: He's best in another room, in fact.

[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[SPEAKER_10]: Get out of wait, what room?

[SPEAKER_10]: Just any one that I'm not here.

[SPEAKER_02]: Right, right, that's what I thought you meant.

[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, it's good.

[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, you're best in that other room, away from me.

[SPEAKER_10]: So Paul gets really mad at Peggy and yells at her and it is, it is just really fun seeing Paul angry.

[SPEAKER_10]: Here you go.

[SPEAKER_10]: I don't need you to put your little swirl on top of my idea.

[SPEAKER_05]: No, it's keeping score.

[SPEAKER_01]: I am.

[SPEAKER_01]: And every time we work together, it looks like you carried the load because you're spontaneous in your girl and you're as favorite and you use aquenette.

[SPEAKER_04]: You nuts, he hates me.

[SPEAKER_01]: That's rich.

[SPEAKER_01]: Wearing a dress isn't going to help you with Western Union.

[SPEAKER_01]: You do your work?

[SPEAKER_01]: I'll do mine.

[SPEAKER_01]: Let the chips fall where they may.

[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, so that sounds like a good idea in theory, Paul, but what actually happens is that late night in the office, we get these competing creative process scenes, and it's interesting because Peggy does the thing that, um, that, [SPEAKER_10]: Don says to teacher about what they do.

[SPEAKER_10]: It's like we boil down communication to its essentials Like that's what she did with Paul's idea was like yeah, how do I make this like Real simple and stupid, you know?

[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, and and just couldn't have to be elegant and So you see kind of like [SPEAKER_10]: both of their competing processes.

[SPEAKER_10]: Paul is drunk.

[SPEAKER_10]: And he is drawing a picture of an old man who says, what's that?

[SPEAKER_03]: That's Sunday.

[SPEAKER_03]: Oh my God.

[SPEAKER_03]: I'm on the jump cut between, I believe we have Sally Draper hilariously saying geez Louise.

[SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[SPEAKER_03]: To perform on one of two incredible [SPEAKER_03]: And then it goes to, yeah, it's an old man with like a cone, a megaphone on his ear, right?

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_03]: What's that, sunny?

[SPEAKER_02]: Well, you're forgetting that you're forgetting an important aspect of this scene, which is that Paul Kinsey is lovingly staring at the art for his failed Marilyn or Jackie campaign, which is like the one successful thing that he ever did that didn't get used in the actual [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, and the best part about that is that, um, well, so you see also what is Peggy doing at the exact same time talking into a recorder just trying to come up with ideas, which is like sure that she preserved.

[SPEAKER_10]: She's, you know, she, she burps at one point.

[SPEAKER_10]: She says, you know, sorry to her, you know, whoever she's going to take down her dictation.

[SPEAKER_10]: And, and you see she's drinking like a soda.

[SPEAKER_10]: She's drinking like a coke.

[SPEAKER_10]: And because she is just trying to get the work done and like fucking.

[SPEAKER_10]: Fucking Paul is such like you so obsessed with looking like an artist and doing as artists do that he's like Okay, step one get shit face step two cry about some old work that never got done my best idea ever that was ruined because You know JFK killed Marilyn or whatever and then you cut to him [SPEAKER_10]: Blocking off the door with this couch turning up the jazz music pulling at you see the Like the Marilyn and Jackie poster on his desk he pulls out a com rag Unbuckled this band Like fuck yeah, Paul.

[SPEAKER_03]: This is a real great self right Jackie off to his own art basically.

[SPEAKER_10]: Yes.

[SPEAKER_10]: Yes.

[SPEAKER_10]: I mean it is so brilliant and fucking funny [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he's also really rude to all of the staff where as Peggy, well, she burps his very polite about it.

[SPEAKER_10]: Yes, yes.

[SPEAKER_10]: Well, yeah, because he's like a fucking, he's a fucking asshole.

[SPEAKER_10]: He's just like, he thinks he's better than everyone, but he's actually just not good.

[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_10]: So he, [SPEAKER_10]: is hungry, Peggy has left when he, she hears the jazz music and is like, oh, he must be hard at work.

[SPEAKER_10]: And he's just like, jack and off to his own art.

[SPEAKER_10]: And so he goes into the kitchen and we meet Achilles, a janitor, and Paul asks him about his name.

[SPEAKER_10]: He's like, hey, you know, that's, are you Greek and he's like, no, but every one of my families named Achilles, we've been named it for generations.

[SPEAKER_10]: You know, when people call out a kill, he's everyone turns their heads.

[SPEAKER_10]: It reminds me of this one Christmas, and then he says, stop.

[SPEAKER_10]: Hush, he says.

[SPEAKER_10]: And then he's like, oh, you've just given me a marvelous idea.

[SPEAKER_10]: And I shall sleep the sleep of a parrot.

[SPEAKER_10]: Exactly.

[SPEAKER_10]: Thank you, dear Achilles.

[SPEAKER_10]: And [SPEAKER_10]: Of course, we know in the next scene with him, he is hung over and he has forgotten this idea completely.

[SPEAKER_10]: He is searching man.

[SPEAKER_10]: I don't think he ever had it in the first place.

[SPEAKER_10]: Well, this is a question I have.

[SPEAKER_10]: Well, if he had an idea, what was the idea?

[SPEAKER_10]: What do you think he got in that conversation with Achilles?

[SPEAKER_10]: Because all I got was that Achilles was like, all of the men have been named Achilles for generations.

[SPEAKER_03]: So I think he went purely to like, [SPEAKER_03]: Greeks Roman Empire, like the Western Union represents, like, it's a scroll of Pirates.

[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, he's like a Roman Empire guy for sure.

[SPEAKER_10]: Interesting.

[SPEAKER_10]: I, where I went with it was that, [SPEAKER_10]: He was thinking about generations of families, all named Achilles.

[SPEAKER_10]: So sending Western Union telegrams through time, where he's just like, you know, one Achilles is this one kid.

[SPEAKER_10]: And then this one adult.

[SPEAKER_10]: And then it's like, oh, now we're in the Gilded Age.

[SPEAKER_10]: And oh, now we're in the roaring 20s.

[SPEAKER_10]: Oh, now we're in the fucking, you know, the depression, now we're in the war.

[SPEAKER_10]: Now we're here in the future and everyone is still named Achilles.

[SPEAKER_10]: The two things that have remained the same, Western Union and the name Achilles.

[SPEAKER_10]: Something like that.

[SPEAKER_10]: That's what I do.

[SPEAKER_10]: Too much story.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, it's a bad idea, get rid of a character from the bus and just drive him into the woods and leave him and you can finally, yes, orgasm.

[SPEAKER_02]: I think this is, uh, I think Kinsey's whole thing is that he wants the trappings and the facade of being an artist, but he doesn't actually necessarily enjoy the work of it.

[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[SPEAKER_02]: And so he's, now that he's drunk, I think he's doing the thing that you do when you're, [SPEAKER_02]: when you're dreaming where you kind of skip steps in a dream and it's just like you remember the feeling because the feeling is all there is so I feel like he got the feeling of having a good idea and since he was drunk he never had to like do the other part of articulating it for me.

[SPEAKER_02]: I think he just like imagined what it'd be like to have a good idea and never actually had the idea.

[SPEAKER_10]: It's a very relatable thing, I think we have all gotten a fix of adrenaline from something we were like, I'm going to do this or a fix of dopamine rather and then you know, you keep trying to give yourself that same dopamine, not by actually doing the thing but by convincing yourself this time you mean it.

[SPEAKER_03]: or explaining to someone the outline of your idea that would be developed and then you're like I felt like I did it.

[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, I kind of already feel like uh, I don't know, successful.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, good for me.

[SPEAKER_03]: I don't need a glass of whiskey.

[SPEAKER_03]: I want to drink this whole bottle here in the town.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I also I also like the contrast between [SPEAKER_03]: he thinks he's like sleeping in this very noble way to where like I have triumphed and they're going to come in and see that I was so dedicated I had to sleep on the couch in my house.

[SPEAKER_03]: When everyone's response is really just like [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, so you got to drunk and passed out here, it's nine o'clock in your dirty.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_10]: And he's, I love the scene where he's searching for it and he's yelling at Lois because Lois is like, Paul's mean to all of his subordinates, but also Lois deserves it.

[SPEAKER_10]: And he was like three episodes away from her.

[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, sorry.

[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, okay.

[SPEAKER_01]: Here we go.

[SPEAKER_01]: Touched anything.

[SPEAKER_05]: No.

[SPEAKER_01]: You do that sometimes.

[SPEAKER_05]: What was it?

[SPEAKER_01]: Does it look like I know?

[SPEAKER_01]: I don't look like it.

[SPEAKER_10]: I don't look like it.

[SPEAKER_07]: I know what I wrote it down.

[SPEAKER_07]: Did you find it?

[SPEAKER_07]: Did you find it?

[SPEAKER_10]: He's good.

[SPEAKER_10]: What is?

[SPEAKER_10]: What are you thinking?

[SPEAKER_10]: He's like, so frantically searching through papers.

[SPEAKER_10]: You got?

[SPEAKER_05]: You find it?

[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, I didn't ask.

[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, look.

[SPEAKER_05]: My mother always said to retrace yourself to give off something.

[SPEAKER_11]: I love it, so mean, she deserves it though.

[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, just her saying it's always the last place you look thinking it will be helpful is beautiful.

[SPEAKER_10]: Oh yeah, I mean, and also like trying to give like down home advice, yeah.

[SPEAKER_03]: My mother always says, well, and you also have to really, I was thinking about it like, [SPEAKER_03]: Man, it did not start getting better after she mode off that guy's foot, huh?

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah.

[SPEAKER_03]: Like she's still striking it out.

[SPEAKER_10]: It's crazy that she's doing her best.

[SPEAKER_10]: She's still got a job.

[SPEAKER_10]: Like it's like one of those wonderful things about the show is they were like, we're gonna fire Sal for being gay in the show and literally never see him again.

[SPEAKER_10]: And he was just like, what the fuck?

[SPEAKER_02]: Also, we're gonna fire the guy who got his foot run over, but not the girl who has foot run right.

[SPEAKER_03]: And I like, everybody gets drunk.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah.

[SPEAKER_03]: I can't play golf.

[SPEAKER_10]: I just, I love that there were like, well, we can't get real low.

[SPEAKER_10]: She's too awesome.

[SPEAKER_10]: Like to me, that's a writer's room decision.

[SPEAKER_10]: We're like, nah, nah, nah.

[SPEAKER_10]: She's too cool.

[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_03]: It also kind of feels realistic where they'd be like, Yeah, it didn't mean to do.

[SPEAKER_03]: Right, it's a sagant, women drivers.

[SPEAKER_03]: That's another thing we learned from the news.

[SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.

[SPEAKER_03]: Women, they're like an out-of-control, long, but actually that story would have been like stupid woman.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was just a control of Moor.

[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, stupid woman distracts man while writing a package of Moor.

[SPEAKER_12]: Find him to crash and run her over with it.

[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, colon execution considered.

[SPEAKER_10]: Um, so Paul tells Peggy that he forgot to write down his idea and he lamented it in the most fucking kinsy way possible It's like you know the Chinese have an old proverb and it's like [SPEAKER_10]: Shut up, um, but that led to the great idea.

[SPEAKER_10]: Yes, in this one case, him being a fucking, you know, like just, uh, what's the word I'm looking for?

[SPEAKER_10]: What is he pretentious?

[SPEAKER_10]: Yes, him being a pretentious con actually helps him out and it still makes him feel small.

[SPEAKER_10]: So he says, um, you know, the Chinese say the faintest sink is better than the best memory.

[SPEAKER_10]: And Peggy makes him explain himself to Don say is like let's tell him what happened and he's like I had a great idea And then I forgot it and Don is like surprisingly understanding you super sympathetic you just like a bin there dog That sucks, you know, but this is like I also like to sit in my [SPEAKER_03]: room in drink lots of whiskey while just thinking about ideas not writing things down, but I don't masturbate.

[SPEAKER_03]: I have mistresses.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I thought women gay lord But this explains why Kinsey still has a job because he has the dumb luck of catching Don when he's in a good mood [SPEAKER_02]: as opposed to Peggy being incredibly good at her job, but like pitching things.

[SPEAKER_03]: And even earlier in the episode, Ken Konsgraff makes a very innocuous suggestion and dawn's like, that's idiotic.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, what is he say like, it's like, I always love receiving telegrams, yeah.

[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, there was so many of them and he is like, how does that help?

[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, I love that.

[SPEAKER_02]: it's so good.

[SPEAKER_03]: And it's really just like what happened to Dawn a couple hours.

[SPEAKER_03]: That's all it comes in that reaction.

[SPEAKER_10]: And we've decided that, you know, in the previous episode, that's also what happened, you know, with Sal, is that I think, [SPEAKER_10]: Sal might have had his job say it if if you know dog had been so tired Been tired.

[SPEAKER_10]: He was in a terrible mood because he kept having to wake up in the fucking middle of the night and go talk to you know Conrad Hilton about a Hilton on the moon So yeah, so Peggy Well, I'm gonna baby welcome up to and that's almost even worse.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, your own baby.

[SPEAKER_03]: What do we have here?

[SPEAKER_03]: The difference between Dolan catching Sal's, sleeping with a bell boy, but he just got laid by a flight attendant himself.

[SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[SPEAKER_03]: And so he's like...

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he's like, yeah, it's just people are different.

[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, just keep it a secret, you know?

[SPEAKER_03]: Another next time he's kind of mad, sound is actually wrong, and he's like, you know?

[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, but like, so Peggy, you know, so Dawn is understanding and, you know, I think it's also he's endeared himself to Dawn by being humble for the first time ever.

[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, I'm being vulnerable.

[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, I was like, yeah, I was being vulnerable and so Don, you know, gives him a break.

[SPEAKER_10]: And then Peggy is like, hey, remember that ancient Chinese proverb you were talking about and then they riff on that and they're like great idea and fucking [SPEAKER_10]: Paul has to sit there watching as Peggy not only saves her ass, saves his ass, and also sort of gives him credit for the idea.

[SPEAKER_10]: Yes.

[SPEAKER_10]: Um, but he has to sit there just being totally dominated in the scene where like he has to sit back and watch them riff and come up with an actual idea.

[SPEAKER_10]: Right.

[SPEAKER_10]: And it's like, oh, I just love, I love how low he is pulled by the end of this episode.

[SPEAKER_10]: Like at the top, he thinks he's low when she kind of puts a twist on his other awkward ideas.

[SPEAKER_10]: But it's like, you don't know the depths of shit that you're about to deal with.

[SPEAKER_10]: And I love it.

[SPEAKER_10]: Um, final storyline.

[SPEAKER_10]: Here it is.

[SPEAKER_10]: It's all the bullshit that happens in the office.

[SPEAKER_10]: In general, this is just kind of like this is designed for the ending scene in which Don gets to give a speech and get applause.

[SPEAKER_10]: Um, but there is some, you know, movement of plot of like overarching plots.

[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I like, I like the lane plot.

[SPEAKER_02]: I like that lane has adopted, uh, New York way.

[SPEAKER_02]: Or has adopted like certain, he, he likes America for certain reasons.

[SPEAKER_02]: And like the phone call, I feel like they'd really drive home.

[SPEAKER_02]: The, the differences and why he likes it.

[SPEAKER_02]: And the phone call gets from, um, the home office.

[SPEAKER_10]: Right.

[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_10]: Um, because he, I do have that clip.

[SPEAKER_10]: Oh, no, I don't.

[SPEAKER_02]: Sorry, because they're being like they're being very British where they're talking around the thing and he's like, I'm sorry.

[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what you're talking about.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: He's like, were you okay?

[SPEAKER_02]: Are you in a fog?

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: What's the fight for you?

[SPEAKER_02]: We've already hinted at it three or four times.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you may, you may say something explicit.

[SPEAKER_03]: Good job, man.

[SPEAKER_10]: Good job.

[SPEAKER_10]: You must be American now.

[SPEAKER_10]: You don't understand the British art of never saying exactly what you mean.

[SPEAKER_10]: And it's horrible, horrible news.

[SPEAKER_03]: Well, and also her, his wife is having such a disparate New York experience.

[SPEAKER_03]: My favorite moment was that she blew her money on a total of $2,000.

[SPEAKER_03]: Was it $2,000 and $5,000?

[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, $2,000 for $2,000.

[SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[SPEAKER_03]: She's almost like, hey, you're already uncomfortable with New York City.

[SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's lady.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_03]: You want to ramp that thing up a little further?

[SPEAKER_10]: And well, so I think what ends up happening in that is that she is being or she thinks she's being scammed by the cab driver.

[SPEAKER_10]: The cat driver is taking wrong turns and she thinks deliberately to run up the meter and And then she talks about, you know, taking this tour of of Harlem Meaning that you know took took her uptown instead of down Yeah, I don't think it was a little sore [SPEAKER_10]: That would be really funny if a British woman from the 60's was just like, what is this Harlem I've heard about, but he was running up her fair on purpose, wasn't he?

[SPEAKER_10]: I mean, he could have been, but is that not what everyone thinks every time they get into a cab and they notice exactly where they're going?

[SPEAKER_03]: What's especially when they're driver's Chinese?

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, exactly.

[SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.

[SPEAKER_02]: Later.

[SPEAKER_02]: He's fine.

[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like the New York, New York was characterized by people scamming you.

[SPEAKER_10]: Of course.

[SPEAKER_10]: Of course.

[SPEAKER_10]: And I think for her, it's not just New York.

[SPEAKER_10]: It's like a, it's a, um, [SPEAKER_10]: It's a statement on all of America.

[SPEAKER_10]: America is just a place where people are trying to get over on you and, you know, she's complaining about that.

[SPEAKER_10]: They care about money instead of what school you went to.

[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[SPEAKER_10]: Right.

[SPEAKER_10]: And my favorite part about this scene is when we see the assistant, Mr.

Hooker with them.

[SPEAKER_10]: And they just, I love this little, yeah, I got to play it.

[SPEAKER_10]: There you go.

[SPEAKER_10]: And that's his prize, your water.

[SPEAKER_05]: Thank you ever so much, John.

[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, he's such a turnt.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, he is.

[SPEAKER_10]: Oh, I'm just so mad.

[SPEAKER_10]: Yes, he is.

[SPEAKER_10]: Anyways, why are you here?

[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, you're just so funny to me that he's a guest.

[SPEAKER_10]: Yes, I know he's disgusting So yeah, yeah, she doesn't like New York.

[SPEAKER_10]: He does Roger and Burke Cooper are looking at old photo mostly dead people and they're gonna have this 40th anniversary thing that Neither them want to do nor did either of them plan it.

[SPEAKER_10]: It is something that the you know the British home office people are doing [SPEAKER_02]: I didn't want to know like what the what the story that they weren't telling about that secretary they hold up a picture of the secretary.

[SPEAKER_10]: I mean I think they'll remember her.

[SPEAKER_10]: It was clear there was one like super-fucky secretary and I in fact I think that may go around but I don't know we'll find out.

[SPEAKER_10]: I know that there's a very old secretary that exists in this.

[SPEAKER_10]: uh, in like later seasons and um, and uh, I think, I think she was, uh, she was a real, loose cannon in her time.

[SPEAKER_10]: So, sure.

[SPEAKER_10]: Um, anyways, Burke doesn't want to go to the, uh, 40th anniversary thing.

[SPEAKER_10]: Lane gets a call from corporate saying we're selling the company, um, and also Burke has to come and then Lane tells, uh, Burke Cooper that he must attend the [SPEAKER_10]: And then the party happens everyone gets dressed and Dawn gives a speech, and that's the end of the episode.

[SPEAKER_03]: It really gets stuck in traffic.

[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's stuck in traffic.

[SPEAKER_02]: It's a cliffhanger ending because it's like, what is Dawn about to do?

[SPEAKER_02]: He looks like he might be like about to cry.

[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.

[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_10]: It's very, yeah, it's like I don't know what's happening with Don and that scene.

[SPEAKER_10]: I didn't notice that him about to cry for me until it was ambiguous, like maybe maybe that's where it's going.

[SPEAKER_10]: What he's about to cry what when he's giving the speech.

[SPEAKER_03]: And that's when Rogers introduced, yes, it's right before he gets.

[SPEAKER_10]: Oh, okay.

[SPEAKER_10]: Well, for me, my eye is drawn completely to Betty at this point because everything after that night where she was, you know, planning to like confront him.

[SPEAKER_10]: is great because she like gets a call from Don and Don is like make sure you look super pretty.

[SPEAKER_10]: I'm showing you off tonight and she's like I don't want to go and he's like what's wrong asking her what's wrong and given been here in 72 hours.

[SPEAKER_10]: What's wrong?

[SPEAKER_10]: It's like you had no idea where to fucking begin with what's wrong.

[SPEAKER_10]: I was literally I did my makeup to break up with you [SPEAKER_10]: You have no idea of the fucking bullet you dodged because you decided to like, you know, stay out fucking another woman and and driving her fucking brother or to whatever the fuck.

[SPEAKER_10]: So anyways.

[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_10]: So she's looking and she's she's staring at him given a speech and she is just she is really torn She doesn't know what to do but I think as an audience member you know this the beginning of the end Favorite scene or at least favorite scene or something we didn't talk about Vince [SPEAKER_10]: Um, you have 30 seconds.

[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, I mean, my favorite scene was, uh, Kinsey telling lowest could God.

[SPEAKER_02]: Well, you shut up.

[SPEAKER_02]: Great scene.

[SPEAKER_02]: Um, but, uh, [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's that we'll call it that we'll call it that shunt That's that Sorry, good.

[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, you know that and Dawn shutting down can cause grove.

[SPEAKER_02]: I think Dawn doesn't like Kenny cuz Kenny just never struggles or like right He's just too healthy of a guy happy guy [SPEAKER_02]: How was that supposed to help after his like dumbass story?

[SPEAKER_10]: The whole series is essentially about the destruction of Kenny Cosgroves.

[SPEAKER_10]: You go.

[SPEAKER_10]: Sean, uh, favorite scene Lee's favorite scene or something we didn't talk about.

[SPEAKER_10]: You have 30 seconds.

[SPEAKER_03]: Um, I can't decide if I...

[SPEAKER_03]: just like the first scene with the brother or the scene about the color blue.

[SPEAKER_03]: Even though I enjoyed Dawn's answer, I was kind of like, yeah, I don't know.

[SPEAKER_03]: It's just, uh, I thought Sally Draper was incredible, obviously.

[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, always, she's like a Tony Gwyn figure in the show, just always, always [SPEAKER_10]: her.

[SPEAKER_03]: I really enjoyed my favorite my favorite one.

[SPEAKER_03]: 10 seconds.

[SPEAKER_03]: Lane Price talking to Berk Cooper and like Britishing him in like five different directions before landing on the thing that made him get his way.

[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, that was good.

[SPEAKER_10]: That was good.

[SPEAKER_10]: He figured it out.

[SPEAKER_10]: His his his Achilles heel.

[SPEAKER_10]: So to speak.

[SPEAKER_07]: You gotta get it.

[SPEAKER_10]: Goods it in the other.

[SPEAKER_10]: And if you had to give this episode a letter grade, and I do, what would you give it me?

[SPEAKER_10]: I think I'd give it a P plus.

[SPEAKER_10]: Vince, what would you give this episode a P plus?

[SPEAKER_10]: Oh, I'm just gonna copy you and call it a solid B plus.

[SPEAKER_10]: Oh my god, Sean, if you had to give this episode a letter grade, and you do, what would you give this episode?

[SPEAKER_10]: What letter grade?

[SPEAKER_03]: I You have 30 seconds My blood type.

[SPEAKER_10]: Oh nice.

[SPEAKER_03]: Is that a blood type?

[SPEAKER_03]: I don't it'll be positive.

[SPEAKER_03]: That's right.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it is, but it's yeah [SPEAKER_03]: You know, there's going to be a, that's my, that's my, that's my fear is that I'm injured in an accident when a car goes completely out of control wire and hit seven or eight trees and park cars and I'm in the driver's seat, but the car is out of control and on the scene, they have to do a blood transfusion.

[SPEAKER_03]: There's a fraught castlessness like I remember.

[SPEAKER_10]: uh...

i remember from mad yourself a man he's what the positive and that i die i love that your greatest fear is never going to be realized because the amount of listeners would have to have an order for that to happen is we're so far from [SPEAKER_10]: But it's a solid B plus episode of Mad Men and it's a solid A plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, [SPEAKER_03]: uh...

you can find me at shawn keen on and i'm more on blue sky than twitter these days of rambal rock i don't call yourself a moron and then i'm writing about basketball at yard burger and golden state of mine matter you happy that the lebron era is about to end oh so happy did you watch the the decision [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, because it was, it was my daughter's birthday and also the two year anniversary of the most attack and I was just like, I love that LeBron was like, yeah, October 7th.

[SPEAKER_10]: Good not all I go at all the day.

[SPEAKER_03]: And I hadn't seen kind of screwed him because he was like, oh, there's going to be a noon announcement and then he had to see like some interns like an hour and a half early and so LeBron just had to retweet something that had already been out [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's what I told you about, um, noon, uh, yeah, the other thing that I imagine this will be on a regular broadcast episode, but the NBA's new gambling scandal is hilarious.

[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I love it.

[SPEAKER_03]: It involves, it's like, [SPEAKER_03]: It's sports betting, but it was actually just a bunch of NBA Hall of Famers trying to rig poker games.

[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, that's...

And the other thing I wanted to share, it is involved with the Mafia, and I found out during the episode.

[SPEAKER_03]: The Patriarch of Crime Family.

[SPEAKER_03]: It's still in existence.

[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, hell yeah.

[SPEAKER_10]: Oh, hell yeah.

[SPEAKER_03]: Unfortunately, about five weeks ago, the family head passed away.

[SPEAKER_03]: So RIP, Carmen, the cheeseman, Danonzio.

[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, great.

[SPEAKER_03]: I love the patriarchal crime family.

[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know who the head of it is now.

[SPEAKER_10]: All right.

[SPEAKER_10]: Well, RIP to the G's man and we hope your first replacement be a masculine replacement.

[SPEAKER_10]: Sean Keane, thank you so much for coming on.

[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, thank you.

[SPEAKER_10]: Patreon.com slash fracass eight dollars here gets you a shout out Vince we have one name this week All right, are we letting Shawn go or are we doing it right?

[SPEAKER_10]: I figure we have one name he's here.

[SPEAKER_10]: Let's do it John right you can sit in and watch great.

[SPEAKER_10]: I love it [SPEAKER_10]: So we're gonna give a prep school name to our boy, Justin, Covington, Justin Covington.

[SPEAKER_02]: Wow, what is this guy?

[SPEAKER_02]: Quilt, I'm calling him.

[SPEAKER_10]: Dubey, oh my god, all right, good, I like it.

[SPEAKER_10]: Oh, get the, if you're tired of, [SPEAKER_10]: Uh, uh, see, also Sean, what I try to do is come up with like a, uh, an ad slogan for whatever thing he names the prep school name.

[SPEAKER_10]: It's really an added bonus no one wants.

[SPEAKER_10]: But I'm going to do it.

[SPEAKER_10]: Duvae, well, Dustin, I can't do the one, but that $8 tier is not paying for itself.

[SPEAKER_10]: And we thank you so much for doing that.

[SPEAKER_10]: And also, we only had one name this week.

[SPEAKER_10]: Is that because of the quality of the thing that I contribute?

[SPEAKER_10]: I hope not, because Vince does a great job with prep school names.

[SPEAKER_10]: So if you, [SPEAKER_10]: Haven't heard your name and you paid for the $8 here.

[SPEAKER_10]: Let us know or if you've never done it and you're like Oh, sure would be fun to watch them struggle.

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[SPEAKER_10]: Thanks again so much for listening and until next time.

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[SPEAKER_09]: They talk can can see goes [SPEAKER_09]: Can Seas Trump can feel him somewhere he locks the door and plays some jazz looks at Monroe and Jackie and Heath starts Jack and goes, ah, oh, but he wants to be Peggy.

[SPEAKER_09]: Day right above her [SPEAKER_09]: But that night when he talks to a key, he gives Paul Kimsey an idea, short and pale and drunk and chubby, Paul Kimsey's memory is muddy, he's forgotten his whole super good idea.

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