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Hello everybody, this has done a in and welcome to my Hot White podcast.

Of course, I'm here with my wonderful husband Vince again again again, and this is gonna be a special show because we do have a very lovely couple here with us today and I'm going to introduce them.

It's Ellie and Sterling.

Little intro here.

Ellie is kind of new to the swinger world and she's been telling us about some of her exploits and they've been very hot.

Well oh no, not all of them.

So there's gonna be a lot more.

We're going to get into the where she's come from.

With actually, yes, the whole background, super vanilla life.

Yea to just starting to dabble.

So guys say, hello, you gotta speak up, hie.

Oh there you go.

That's what I was like, Yeah, that's great.

Yeah.

So Ellie, you know you're telling us a little bit about your background.

I think that's really uh, kind of intrigued you part for me, the world that you came from and then the world you're experiencing now.

So you came from a.

Very vanilla Oh my goodness, you can please tell us about everyone.

But yeah, unfortunately I'm my second very vanilla, boring marriages, and you know, I felt very unfulfilled and very unsatisfied of.

No no, no, no, no no, you meant the background, just the background.

Okay, we're doing background, right.

So yeah.

So I just it was very sad because I never went into my marriages thinking that I was going to have this experience.

But you know, over time, you just the pressures of life and having children, it just became this very sad existence, and I just wanted so much more, and I thought, I'm stuck.

What am I going to do?

Well?

You told us, I don't know it's the first husband or the second one that just you gave a You're going to give a blowjob?

He said, yeah, you don't need to do that anymore.

Said no man ever, except for apparently you're.

Okay, let me intervene.

Okay, okay, we got to, you know, take a experiment.

You have to have a control.

Volunteers, that's where that's where I'm going.

Get the microphone closer to you.

Yeah, yeah, I can volunteers control if we need a control for this.

Does she give a blowjob you could do without?

Simply amazing?

No, I cannot do with it.

You had more than one blow job in your life?

Yes?

I have, and there was definitely some talent there this young lady possesses that's been buried for you.

Okay, well your husband, what the whatever?

Don't give me a blowjob?

No, we can't have that.

Even a bad blow job is better than nobody.

There's teeth, a blow job, a bad no, that's.

Not true, bad orgasm better than Okay.

That's that.

I agree that there are some bad jobs.

You remember you said there was one go you're doing teeth when you're like funk that.

I don't touch my dick over.

Yes, no vampire blow jobs please.

So we're from upstate New York, not down south Carolina.

Okay, that makes a lot of sense.

Oh my god.

Anyway, so you're insane husbands didn't want blow jobs basically, Yeah, I'll paint the picture first.

Okay, one thing we have to back up.

Okay, back up.

I'm not going to talk about Sterling.

He's just not my kind.

Okay.

Ellie is a gorgeous woman, incredible body.

Yes, yes, yes you did.

I have long legs, only a little bit.

I think you should go more in depth with that.

I go as deep as I could go.

To them much but as close as I can get.

With that bear spray.

She carries the bear spray.

She doesn't use hair Sprayhy's bear spray.

Yeah, well, thank you.

I appreciate the compliment.

It's uh, it feels great to be described that way.

But yeah, so my unfortunately, my my relationship didn't allow me to do express the energy that I've always had since I was a teenager.

I've had this sexual energy, this libido ever since I could remember, and I just never met anybody that matched that energy.

God, So my two marriages were just probably by my own fault.

I just I it wasn't enough.

It was just never enough, and I decided to focus myself on my kids and my family and just that life and never having that in my life, and it was just it got to be horrible.

So anyways, maybe six years ago he moved out and I said, I was alone for a very long time.

And my one friend, her name will you know, she'll be remain She's like, you have to get back out there.

You have to get back out there, back on the saddle, get back in the saddle whatever.

My name is.

Saddle.

Yeah.

Hell, I met this wonderful man will call Sterling, and he has just matched every single level of every fantasy that I've ever met, I ever wanted.

And I'm so happy.

I'm so very happy.

It's just letting you know, you're not a freak, right, You're not.

It's not your lipidos high.

You have a certain energy and he needed the right person that could fulfill that energy.

And that's the biggest thing.

Yeah, And even with my best girlfriends who have had you know, for thirty five years, I would say something.

About like, oh my god, can you imagine doing this?

And they looked at me like, oh my god, I just want my husband to get on me and get off me and tell me when he's done.

I thought, Oh, I really am a fucking free age.

Not even close.

No, no, I mean it was terrible.

So Sterling has been amazing.

He's I've kind of coined our very short relationship as my awakening because now I feel like I'm with somebody that will never make me feel like it's wrong, never say no, never tell me that this is not a good idea, or you know, I couldn't do this or whatever, opening up.

New doors for you, new experiences, expressing your new sexual probably getting people.

Write into us.

Does you have a sister?

Sister?

But no, I don't.

So what kind of things to tell already is what kind of things have you been experiencing?

Like they know you've told us off air, but tell our listeners you know all the different little briefly a little esque page you've been to, like the.

The what the some of the newest boundaries boundaries okay, okay, that you have crossed?

Oh well, why don't you tell him about the first the first thing?

Had you never been to a nude beach?

Never, Never, in a million years would I ever have imagined taking my clothes off on a public beach.

It is so exhilarating.

So how long did it take you finally when you got to the beach to take your clothes off?

About thirty seconds seconds.

And she had a body that should never wear clothes.

I couldn't not agree more.

I mean, so she.

Took She walks into a clothes store and they go, sorry, man, you're not allowed in.

Here naked all the time.

I was extremely proud of her, and she clothes came off.

She looked around at her audience, your competition, Thank you.

I was very nervous.

I had never done that, and I.

Packed multiple bathing suits, thinking I could never do this.

I'm just gonna maybe be topless, but I would never be bottomless.

And then I walked out on the sand and I looked around and I said, I got this, and.

She certainly did.

Yes.

Came in a couple of days and a nude beach in New Jersey, and then from.

There on the beach in New Jersey.

I looked around and I said, you know what, nobody cares.

Nobody even cares.

Nobody cares.

I was off.

Yeah, after the first thirty seconds, like nobody's like gawking at you.

Natural?

How about it?

Was it freeing or not going into water?

So are you behind the dunes with binocular Yeah?

The only thing I had on was a belly chain.

That is she a belly change.

For the record, I find belly chains incredibly sexy on me or on her.

Of course, angle chains, ankle chains, and belly chains I find very very right.

Certainly was two toe rings on.

I don't have any piercings or tattoos, so I felt very bare.

I just felt like I had nothing on my belly chain.

Beach's kind of yeah.

Yeah, well, I was very proud of her, and she took it like a fish of water.

And lay on your stomach the whole time.

We actually played ring toss on the.

Actually, yeah, it was a problem for me to come out of the out of the water at certain points and times, and she mocked me.

But it's okay.

They used me as a buoy to try to rescue the drowning swimmers.

But so where do we go from there?

What we went from so then once I got my feet wet and.

He's literally, among other things, getting wet.

I needed that confidence booster.

We talked about maybe going to a mirror.

A little nude camp site, which seemed like a lot of fun, and I thought the boy Scouts must.

Never do that.

Of course, it was like, whoa this is?

So we went up to the Poconos.

And we camp.

We can a huge nude pool and uh, how about it?

It was hundreds of people run around naked.

Oh my goodness, no problem.

Trying to make the long shot.

It's weird just.

Coming out of your tent in the morning, like fud, you go brush your teeth and then you go, say, to the pool all day and have a couple of drinks.

And it was no big deal.

But she comes to this podcast fully closed.

Well it's getting chilly, is you know?

I can't tell?

Is you know so into that.

We had a lot of fun at both times and you actually became a convert, did you not?

Yeah, the naked lifestyle, Yeah, I mean.

It's still kind of new.

I mean there's a lot of terms and things that I'm not familiar with.

And I was trying to, you know, act like I didn't know what everyone was talking about.

But honestly, like, once you're in this, you're submerging.

You start to like, you gravitate to people that are like, I don't think you're a freak anymore, and you can talk about these things like, you know.

What, what plug you like?

Whatever?

You don't feel like you what's your favorite lube?

And oh that's different.

So and then also we've met people it would talk about different places to go and where they liked and what clubs they liked, and it was just pretty interesting how it went from there just and for me myself, it's just a was enlightening as well.

So at this point, basically you've experienced the newest lifestyle.

Yes, correct, Okaye.

Being in public without clothes on is.

I highly recommend it.

I mean anybody that can should, even if you have kids or whatever, just find a place to do it, because it is for so many years of pushing that down and pushing that down and pushing that depressing of that feeling like I could even my best girlfriend, who I adore, I've known for god, we've been friends for forty years, said, oh God, nobody wants to see this body.

Why would you do that, and I was like meaning herself, but I was thinking about me, thinking I love it.

But now I feel even more like I can't talk about it.

So I had to find the people that accepted and wanted to be in that world with me.

And that's where I am.

And I'm very, very very new to this, but speaking.

For all straight men.

We appreciate.

Certain has been instrumental in my inducation induction world and has made me feel very safe, and we're just figuring it out.

I want you to feel empowered, beautiful body positivity.

You're working your ass off far as your crunches and fitness and taking care of yourself and looking fantastic, So I show off, enjoy.

I don't say this to every beautifu woman, but if you play your cards right, you can have.

Me with not too much of a fight.

Yeah, well he might, he might, you know a little bit.

Yeah, he loved that struggle.

It's exciting.

Do you want to want to do a background?

Yeah?

So from there?

What else did we have you done since there?

Oh?

My gosh, that might be for another podcast.

But anyway, we could just tease it at least because I know you're on living a time tonight.

Yeah.

So we went from camping to a really cool place in Pennsylvania.

That allowed not only not both.

People, but people that were swingers and people that were so it just coincided with something else we had to do that weekend.

And we went in and I was terrified.

And it was our first swing club.

It was our very first, and I was terrified.

I brought, you know, thirty seven outfits and maybe twenty pairs of shoes and I'm sweating.

We drove by it before we even had to be there, and it was like all these cool things, Like it's cool to me because it was new to me, but it was like, you can't get there before eight o'clock, you have to be in by eleven.

And then we locked the doors down and it was just like this cool vibe that I was with people that got it right right.

And how was it for you the first time?

I loved?

Okay, so you went into a swing club.

I'm going to have sex with my boyfriend in front of all these people.

Nobody's gonna care.

I mean, they're just going to think I'm one of them.

Can you get the mic closer?

Yeah, we don't want to miss out all the juicy stuff.

You might want to put it between your legs.

My name is Mike.

Put the mic between your legs.

Like absolutely.

At first, we didn't know what we did not know what to expect.

We first walked in there, and truth be told, you bring your booze.

There's no alcohol there that you bring the bruises and you check it in and I'm I'm taking in the room itself.

She's sitting next to me, and I'm like, don't.

Leave me, don't alone alive.

Ally white bathing suit, right, a white pearl collar on, wicked weasel.

A wicked weasel, mesh tugs full white.

I mean, these are triangles that are smaller than my palm, right, So they're like, I have nothing between me and the world that I'm about to delve into.

So I'm taking She's sitting there, looking beautiful, to the table, grab her first drink.

I'm just taking everything in, just just absorbing in this whole thing.

And all of a sudden, one hit of her drink, Miss Bubble here.

Is let's go.

Let's go for a tour.

So she was she was like again a fish to water.

She took right in.

We went for a tour of the different rooms, a little different platerooms.

I'll let you explain.

So that was cool.

So when you first get in there, and again this is my first, first, first, first, first time, and you get a tour guide.

Oh, he's gorgeous and his wife works there.

We met her too, and he takes us around to all these rooms and explains the rules, which I'm a rule followers, so I'm really good with rules.

I follow the rules.

And he said, you know, one knows no and when there's a chain, you don't go past the chain.

And we have this like crossrooms and one of those saints.

That's why I have so much experience with that.

But there's like a neon room, and there's a glow room, yes, loowroom, and.

There's a you know, Olympic size hot tub, and there's a huge bar and a dance floor and hot.

Tub and Olympic event.

And the Glory Whole Room and Glory Whole room.

So we got the full tour of the whole place.

And it was.

Really a sensory overload because you actually startling were more nervous than I was.

Yes, I was, There's no doubt about it.

I just just wasn't quite sure of everything, but she exuded.

Such a confidence and such an energy she put off.

It was just incredible.

And well, you made me feel confident and safe and that's my whole thing.

You pretty I said, I got this.

And then we just went on our tour.

We watched the people, we watched.

What was going on.

More of a voyeur for at first.

Yeah, I'm a total voyeur.

So I was like, I'm all about why there was.

One room that was a glow room, was very cool, black light room.

Oh yeah, yeah, with.

Her her suit, it just it just resonated.

It was amazing how it looks.

So the way it works is there's seven rooms, it's three floors.

They put on a full dinner.

We didn't even go into the dining room, but anyway, you get the full dinner with it.

And they said, uh so the rule is.

Again I'm very new to this, but when you you get to a room, or you have an opportunity to get to a room, you have sex in that room, you have to pull the sheets back and then they come in and change the sheets.

Quick and then comes another available room.

So that new to me.

Oh yeah, you don't want to be dancing someone else's for a.

Room to become available.

So we get a room.

We're in a room that has all these windows and this open door, and we have the chain across we're going around, and so.

I think I was going down on you and keep hard.

Somebody wanted to take care of the problem.

We were just feeling like giving, giving.

Giving, and she was very enthusiastic a boy helping out to solve the problem, which was and.

You remember, like I didn't have that in my life, so willing to get my you know, freak.

On flag high.

I see that.

It's great.

We're on the bed and I'm like his He's like on the bed like a typical and I'm so all of a sudden, he whispers in my ear, like all these people are lined up at the door watching us, and I went I was like in the Cindy Brady mode, like I can't do this anymore.

And he's like, it's good, it's good.

They like it.

I was like, okay, good if they didn't, they're not going to say that, which is cool because I was looking at him and we were exactly got this.

We got like.

This doll of thumbs up to the people.

Watching on the window, watching the people in the door watching and that hair, that blonde hair was bobbing up and down.

So my question is were you wearing like a thong or anything at this point as is facing the crowd.

So I had hot pants on.

I had white hot pants on, which looked really cool with the blue light that was.

In there, look hotter.

I had high heels on, so my heels were facing them.

And then I think I had the white bikini at that time, which was just and I just.

Had the pearl necklace on I.

Came about to get.

Exactly.

So what was weird was there was like either pictures or mirrors in the room that I could look and see them looking at us, which made it even hotter because I didn't have to actually face them.

I was just seeing his face and seeing him look at them, which was really cool because.

It was like it was very cool.

So I guess we finished up in there, and then we were walking around.

And got a drink.

We got went back to the bar and.

We should bring your own stuff, and then it.

Was perfunctatory wardrobe change, like you're walking.

Me to the bathroom.

I am not going to the bathroom by myself.

So I think we had another wardrobe change.

For outfits with us.

Yes, So we waited outside the bathroom and then I got this like black, beautiful thing he bought me.

I don't even know what it is.

It's like very tight black dress and then different change of heels, and we went to another room.

We tried to get in another room, so ultimately I could go on and on, but we ended up in the.

The third wardrobe.

Tell me the third wardrobe, the third ward drobe change.

Why you had the choker on?

Oh yeah, so that was the third one.

It was another black outfit.

Right.

So it's a really pretty thing that Sterling bought me.

So it's like a basically like open a halter maybe with a collar, and there's a clip from the collar to the bra.

It's just like just like a little short I.

Think there's a sheer this sheer dress, like a little.

Shorty dress and this like there's it's not even a bra, there's nothing.

It's just like an open and then so she's basically naked in the cloth.

Okay, so you have a little you have a little skirt, but it has a little like Shane goes down.

In the middle.

Don't know if it's it's like velvet.

Or okay in the middle little okay, so boops are exposed.

Yeah, this sheer thing no ties.

Another planet.

You're wearing like an apron with a string that goes into your neck.

It so how much do you spend for that?

Didn't matter.

It made it to the buffet.

I'll tell you that.

Other story.

We wanted to go into two rooms.

There were seven rooms.

We want to get the glow room.

I wanted to get the glow room.

Never, they was like booked all night.

Oh no, she changed, changed, change, never made in there.

And then the last one.

And there was a lot of people milling around at this point because what I didn't say is that, so you have to be in there by eleven yours closed, no more people in.

Oh wow, And you can party in any room you want to until two.

Or three am, three in the morning.

Three in the morning.

Oh dear god.

So I go to bed at home at like nine o'clock ten, do this till three o'clock in the morning, but then after three you can sleep overnight.

We were like, you take one of the rooms there.

So we decided like.

That, let's go back to the hotel.

So anyway, right, so we get to the.

Room that we wanted to get in, and we walk in and it's like black and red and lots of chains, and there's things hanging down from the ceiling gopher, and there's this giant cross and seeing anything like this in my life, so of course we're like, but I will say, from a sexual standpoint, it's not very convenient.

It was kind of high up, so you have to be like, it almost would be better if it was tilted a.

Little because I could lay on him or he could lay on me.

But it was like, straight up.

It is straight up.

It is straight up.

So I get the restraint thing.

And I just saw something online recently that when you're restrained, and I'm.

A nurse, so like, I get this.

It's when you feel like you can't fight back that fight or flight thing, that all.

Your senses become even heightened.

So it was almost like being blindfolded, like you're ready to punch the fuck out of anybody that comes near you because you can't see anything.

But if you can't, like if you're restrained, like all your senses become.

That's yeah, I love being restrained, and I love that whole that thing about struggling to touch or do something to somebody else.

But I can't, and I find it more titilating because I can't do it.

That's why.

Yeah, your releases is what makes it so sexually heightened.

So that so this room here, we did not have the door open.

They didn't there's no chain.

It was either open all the way or closed.

But Ellie did volunteer said, hey, we're here, why not.

I want to feel it in So.

We put her in the Saint Andrew's cross, strapped up.

So it's like arms up over your head collar and.

Your legs were spread wide open.

But then I was trying to kiss him and I'm like, I can't get to.

Bondage.

Cool.

It was kind of cool, Like I if I tell you, I have ever been in that situation.

Ever, that's what she's telling me, now, yeh yeah, that's what she's telling me.

You're back, You're back.

Her name card for a good time call.

She walked in there like Ellie, yeah, yeah, there's notes all over the place.

Somebody else that looks like.

Yeah, yeah, that was pretty amazing.

And so then we took her out of the cross and she strapped me in across.

That was is pretty cool.

So I was being filated on the cross.

Oh, yes, something, we're up an animal.

Yeah, I'm going to filate this.

Having Okay, So at this point you have only been an exhibitionist, just in an exhibition, a.

Very private exhibitionist like I was never allowed to express that in But I'm.

Saying you've progressed to this point.

Okay, So you haven't actually put your foot in the pond yet of swinger.

Never.

Never.

We went to a party in North Jersey about two months ago, and just after a couple of tequila shots, somebody said kiss.

Her, and I kissed her.

And that was the extent of my you know, my boundary that I always felt suffocated in that I would never have dreamed of kissing a girl, never in a million years.

And it was like, you know, I wasn't attracted to her, but it happened and I did it, and I was like, wow, I didn't die.

It was kind of nice, and I think everybody that was watching enjoyed it, like it was just like, oh my god, I could actually talk about this and it was cool.

Okay, it was cool.

So you've never had inclinations to be with a woman before.

Never, that's wrong with that I will say me and watch of women have had no inclination to be with me.

Well, and then they change used their mind.

What I've converted more girls of lesbianism.

You know, I think it's just the suppression, you know, like I I've had.

Like I said at the beginning of this, is that I've had this libido.

I was even had a libido sixteen eighteen, whatever it was, and I never dreamed of kissing a girl.

I lived in a very neighborhood, My parents are, my friends are very conservative, and I thought I wouldn't dream of kissing a girl.

They think I was okay, and like that's that's a bad thing.

It just wasn't for me, and or at least I didn't think it was.

And it's more now, Yeah, we don't hear all the hot stuff.

Oh sorry, So yeah, I feel like it's I'm not ruling it out.

But at the same time, I felt like I want to.

Be with Sterling, but I feel like if that would give him some joy, I would enjoy watching that.

Thank you.

So I have a boyeur.

I'm first and foremost the boyer.

Sure, I don't want to share him with anybody ever, but if he got some joy out of that, or you know, sexual pleasure out of that.

I would be okay with that.

I just don't.

Necessarily if he said he wanted to see you as somebody.

We talked about that too.

I mean, I I I'm still I mean, I'm so new with this.

It would have to be in the moment, it would have to be the right people.

I just you know, I'm very we're.

Right now.

It's very, very new.

But I love the opportunity to think about that for sure.

So here's a fifty dollars question.

So you know you've been stifled most of your life.

What are what is your sexual fantasy that you would love to fulfill?

And don't don't say be with me.

We'll take that default.

It's obvious that's there.

But geez gosh, that's really put me on the spot here.

I think we had a interaction recently that was we were on vacation, and you.

Know, we love to tell each other in each other's ears about, like, you know, the hottest moment that we would want to do.

But I think I think maybe it would be us being together and then you having other men come in the room and just either talk to me or touch me or be close enough to me that they could feel our heat.

And that's like for me, that's hot.

I don't necessarily need to be with another man, at least that's how I feel right now.

I just but that would be cool to have people watch, and that's that's my thing.

I mean answer, yeah, just so, we did just go back on vacation and we stayed at a beautiful resort then in Saint Martin, and we wound up it was a clothing optional facility and there was only seven rooms.

Yes, well you would think you would think suitcases down with one suitcase.

Go home with five.

But the interesting part, the interesting part was only a couple of couples there one only one couple that was really staying there.

The other couples were on the road.

We wound up having sex in the pool where they were having sex in the pool, and it was.

Just a pretty wild experience.

That was the first time that.

That was cool, having sex in the ocean, having sex on the beach, wild sex and the outphants.

Yes, it was very I highly recommend it, by the way, but it was a pretty off the charts time away together.

So definitely dipping our toes in the water a little further and taking one step at a time.

Again, there's no agenda, no race, that's just a it's all part of the awakening, and we're having a lot of fun doing it.

So that's why I named it the Awakening of e and Sterling, because that's how it has felt, you know, for for him as well, you know, unsatisfying relationships and feeling like you know, I always say, this is not a dress rehearsal.

You know, we don't have much time on the earth.

And why why would anyone say no?

And what was your answer when I it would ask you to try something or do something?

Why not?

Why not?

Why not?

Why not?

What I mean?

When Don and I first got together, it was weird.

When for her it was weird, like you know, I was a stripper and I've always been in a sexual environment.

When we started, you know, swinging and seeing him with somebody else and you know where me with somebody else, it was a little weird.

It was a little weird, and they the woman felt that way too, But it was a whole other story.

Hunh, that's a whole other story.

Not the glass of wine.

There's still there's still up there, but.

Once once you got like through that and realized that, oh, if he has if he's gonna, you know, be messing around with somebody else, that doesn't mean he loves her.

Yeah, there's a separation between.

You know, sex and love, and you can love somebody without having sex.

You get sex with somebody and I love them so.

And there's a very fine line I think between that division.

Because but I think that's what I struggle with is that, you know, I I said to him the other night, I said, I.

Would feel like I was cheating on you.

We'll be chating if you didn't tell him.

If you do it together, you can't possibly cheat.

You then says, I want to see you fucking big black eye, and I'll be like, okay, would I be cheating?

No, he's one, he's one to set it up.

She can't deliver this delicately.

She just like, you know, here's a tomic bomb.

I don't want to see the big, big dick, big you know, the bigger the dicks.

I'm with you like that told me that yes you have.

Okay, I want to see a little needle dick.

I want to see you so unsatisfied, that so hot.

I want to see a guy, I want him to come in his pants before he gets here.

Then can't get hard, and he has like a half inch cock.

Come on, let's think about this anyway.

It's like I wanted a guy with like rotting teeth breath so much part of care you could crash a plane into it.

You have to sort through the puper hair to find his little dick.

That'd be so hot.

Onna, we went to that party that was terrible.

I'm sure you guys have stories, That's why podcast so many stories, But like because I find it arousing.

Like one of the things I asked her that she does sometimes, like like when she was on a hot date, send me pictures during throughout the date in the fucking tease me.

N Then I get a picture like.

Oh this is really hard for dinner.

Yeah, oh look here, I am out my car.

I'm leaving.

Wh I fucked them already.

It's like, oh, yeah, that was hot.

Okay, we are not there yet.

So how about the Friday night?

What happened Friday night?

Oh my goodness, So I came over.

You know, I have my kids over the weekend.

So I came over and we had plans to go to dinner, and we were getting ready for another event the next day, and he brings me this amazing place.

We have a wonderful dinner and we're talking and about a million things, and we were kind of getting revved up.

And now I'm porny as hell because I haven't seen them all week and.

We're I feel I haven't seen him in weeks.

He's so horny.

So there's this great band and they're local.

I won't say who they are but unless you want me to, but I so, I'm like, come on, let's go dance, let's go stand up, you know.

So I have a dress, like a little sun dress dress on, no bra, no wonderwear.

I don't think I even own a bra or underwear, but I love to be in heills.

So we're standing there and he's behind me and I feel his hand go like up the back of my thigh to my butt, and I'm like, because I can, like, we have not even had sex.

Yet, so I was like, oh my god, I can't wait to get him home.

And I'm feeling your bare ass sliding my hand around your chest behind you.

You take your your hand on top of mind and pulled to you.

I'm like, okay.

So now he's grabbing my breast and I'm like, okay, when is massaging.

That's not that's just scared.

Breast massages are so nice.

If you didn't know that, I'm sure you do.

So now the band's amazing.

We listened to like four more songs.

We're walking out to the truck and he's such a gentleman.

He always opens my door.

Did he lift you up?

So he opens my door.

And I try to get my butt up into the seat, literally pulls my dress off and goes down on me.

And I was like, oh my god, we're gonna do this right here.

There's all these people, the band's going on.

I'm sure there's cameras everywhere.

It was the hottest thing.

Oh.

She goes, wait what, I guess we're doing this?

And then what happened?

He is at least shoves me in the car.

He goes around to the other side.

My dress is already off, my shoes.

I don't even know where they went, and I just know that my butt was on the console and I was holding my hands up on the you know the things that you lift.

To get into the car.

She was levitating across the front seat while I was going down on That.

Went on for a while, and then you know, I think we just came.

To you were riding, you know, you were riding in front.

You forgot, She forgets that.

No, I wasn't forgetting.

I was just probably delirious from what I was trying to get the blood back in my head.

And I did, as a matter of fact.

So straddled you in the driver's seat.

That was amazing.

And then I don't know, so I don't even know how it was.

What were you wearing on the way home?

Nothing?

Nothing, literally nothing, And I'm like, if we get stopped, this is going to be a problem.

Get out of a ticket where my dresses or my shoes.

It's hanging on the antenna.

Probably blow your shoes.

So we get home and we've around some more.

At home.

Oh well, you came in the house totally naked.

Got out of there.

I mean, his daughters live in town.

So I'm thinking, oh my gosh, okay, wait all right, let's get inside.

We know we were in bed and I said, oh my gosh, Jolie, I can't find my shoe.

There's only one shoe, and that it's like a little cowboy boot shoe.

I can't find my shoe.

Like, it's okay, in the morning, we'll go back and get your shoes.

So we go back to the bar in the morning.

They're like, you left without your shoe, and like, we left without my shoe.

Did you find it?

And they're like, no, we didn't find it.

So anyways, we end up finding it.

But it was just hysterical because it.

Was like it was like like all the clothes came off.

We drove home naked.

It was just it was so.

I think naked.

There was no clothes on for me either.

Oh my god, in for a penny, in for a pound, and shoes in for a pounding.

So grab I kept telling this and automatically I think it's just.

Driving head towards over second.

But anyways, all is well.

The shoe was found.

It was like in the back of the can.

In the moment, and it was.

You probably found guys along the way as well.

Oh yeah, yeah, he takes care of me.

Sure, So the beginning of.

The awakening of Oh my god, that's funny, that's all.

I'm just happy to have a good day at work.

Oh yeah, it's only gotten better.

I mean, oh my god, it's journals.

Yeah, oh, you absolutely journal because all of this is so great.

It's a shame that you didn't get a chance to experience experiences like earlier.

But you guys to experience.

It now at all.

Yeah, that's sometimes people.

Go through life like I always wanted to do X, and they never do it because of you know, family friends and they're a freak, or there's this you.

Shouldn't do that.

That's not how But sure adults behave you.

Know, can you imagine not having oral for twenty years?

No, that was my life.

No, I would, I would.

I've given orgasms to women who've never had an organsic.

Yeah, I remember that, a woman who was married for twenty plus years and she had never had an orgasm that she hadn't given to herself.

And oh that's you too.

Huh.

No, there was no toys.

I never had a vibrator till I was braided.

Oh my god, I have a little arsenal.

Yeah, I have battle kid, Battle kid.

Sure, I was discouraged.

I was never trailer behind.

Now with us, you never vibrators and everything.

Truckle of toys.

And I used to bounce down this bachelor party we.

Had a double bag.

Yeah, I'd be caring the thing one would go.

It was like, damn.

Well.

Here's the funny part was we had an office that we were working out of at the time.

We're doing uh the websites, and we had done a show the night before, so all her vibrators and dodos were in this kitchenette we had drying.

In the dish rack.

Happened to stop.

Kitchen I have some of the same ones.

I was like, oh, that's fine.

I'd rather that response than be like, oh my god.

Actually, when she was non pleasant, didn't even phase or She's like about a couple of them, No big.

Deal, that's all.

It wasn't like she said I had a bigger wine.

But I was so embarrassed.

I was like, you know, you have.

A model, you're going to try to s.

I put them in the in the in the dish drying rats.

There are all these donors.

Well well yeah, that was That was something that.

Was so our adventures continuing is still in process and progress, and.

That's how it feels.

I mean, I you're.

Open to new adventures.

Yeah, okay, all right, let's bring out the trapeze.

She's still young.

I just have to safety equipment.

Yeah, the trampoline.

Yeah, my safety net is Sterling.

That's making me feel safe.

Take care of one step at a time.

I mean, I'm very new at this, so it's just been fun and I love the adventure so far, travel planned and we're we're on our way.

Great.

I love it.

I love it.

That's great.

Do you foresee potentially swinging stuff happening in.

Your future baby steps?

Yeah?

Potentially, Yeah, I mean I guess.

I mean, Sterling.

Would you are you in the same nature that I am with what's your name?

Yeah?

Where my name is Donna?

I guess.

Great pleasure in seeing her give and received?

Oh absolutely, I could not agree more.

It gives me great pleasure to see and make sure you're pleasured.

But I believe Ellie knows that.

Yeah, one of the things, and Donna is here to confirm it.

Like when she plays with somebody else afterwards we go after she de whouses else.

Typically.

Yeah, he actually to the you know, the top of the car and drives membership unlimited wash.

Yeah, he lay with your legs spread.

Why but now we play.

It actually is added to our relationship.

It's even made it more erotic.

Yeah, telling me what she enjoyed, and I tell her how erotic was watching whatever?

And it's you know, it's strengthened and made.

Our Yeah, it has.

It has definitely made.

Some people would say that might be.

It's like, how ca you love someone and just let them have sex with anybody else?

Again, they're separating.

They can't separate love and sex.

That's that's usually the sticking point that they are so attached to sex means love and that's it.

It's like, no, I can have sex with somebody and they are a fun playmate.

I like them, I mean, but for me to have a relationship with them, not so much.

They're fun the fuck.

Let me tell you, they're find the fuck.

They're a lot of fun.

But it's like, nope, nope, nope.

At sixty five, do you want to have relationship is a twenty two year old?

No, no, fuck, he's find the fuck.

You know?

No, No, that was.

So check back with us one.

Yeah, we'll have to have you guys on again for sure and see where this is so much fun?

Thank you for having yes, thank you very excited to share the next chapter of where this goes?

Absolutely ye can go between her thighs such a she's not even like opening hers to share.

Yeah, she's like, oh well, I mean, if you had your handerchief my thighs, I'd open up.

So they get I see, I know you're just a giving kind of guy.

Then just try I try.

You know, he's just like, here, just fondle my balls.

I got arrested for that a few times.

They said you can't do that at the bus stop.

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