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Hello and welcome back inside the part for me for podcast number nine hundred and sixty eight, this is Todd nod a k A negative canber.

You know what we do on race weekends.

We watched one, then we talk about it, then we watch one, then we talk about it.

Come on, it seems logical to me.

Why wouldn't we do that?

You know, and it was the last race of the season, so we're going to talk about that.

Before doing that, you know what I gotta do.

I gotta go find professional race coach River, the sporting manager of the Heart of Racing as Mart and Racing Team.

Here in Imsa from out of the way.

It's beautiful, he's crazy.

It's hello everybody.

This is pul Charles, the International.

It's the International.

Oh Paul, I didn't think we'd be starting this podcast so soon and suggesting that in reality, we've got to we got to talk about the helmet, and I guess this is all we got to say.

Good bye, good luck and good ridden.

There you go, So who knew?

Who kneww Yeah, I don't think we should talk about the race.

I have prepared an hour and twenty minute full life history of helmet Marco for us to dig deep.

But no, I haven't done that.

I haven't done that.

Everyone's already switched off.

I know everybody's like, oh wait a minute, stop the podcast.

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I mean a ton a ton Yeah, I agree, I agree.

Yes.

And for those of you aren't Patron supporters, what better time give it as a gift to your loved ones.

It's the holiday.

Season, yeah, hang hanging under the tree?

Yeah you know?

Yeah?

Do you have any pop from at I don't have an ornament Christmas old?

Maybe I should.

Maybe I should quickly make an ornament that would be good.

I could put like park for me logo on one side and then like a picture Lando on the other or something like that.

Yeah, yeah, why not.

You know what Lando would say, maybe just Lando's Yeah that's what he would say.

Yeah, I said, maybe just Lando's girlfriend, who's a model, by the way, just wanting to point that out, no kidding.

Yeah, yeah, as is all of them.

Mostly.

I was looking at o'conn's garage and there's this incredibly beautiful woman and I was like, oh, it's like his significant other and everything.

Oh well, she's a very pretty girl and flovvy flobby brav or something like that.

I was like, I don't even know who she is.

So I went and looked at up was like, you know, an insta influencer or whatever you do.

You that's good?

Yeah.

Not many plumbers, No, there's not not many chartered accountants either.

You know.

That's my girlfriend.

She's a she works at Taco Bell.

Yeah.

Yeah, she can't stay the whole race.

She's got to shift.

She's got a shift.

She's a second shift manager.

So that's right, that chaloupah bringing back that chalupah.

Yeah, I agree.

So Hey, this weekend was the last race of the season.

It was at a track that is known historically for producing incredibly exciting No, it's not, it's Abu Dhabi, It's not.

It was.

It all came down to this pole.

It had three drivers with a possibility, so I better than others of winning.

And if you were thinking Landa looked good on all three practice sessions, so was I.

I thought it look great.

I have no idea where Max's quality lab came from.

You know, they were sand bagging on that.

Bad boy, so amazing.

That was an amazing quality lab.

But can I be honest, I really don't like this track poll And it's a shame that all these Middle East investments.

You know, I get it, money's money, and you know that's kind of got F one locked up and definishing their seasons, these big high profile season and the races, and I get it.

And who wouldn't want that, you know, season ending race on their calendar as a as a promoter and I get all that, but it's a shame because you know, if F one was really into entertainment, they wouldn't pick this track as the final track.

They'd want a track that typically produces really exciting racing.

Right, how is SPA at this time?

Yea Chili maybe I don't know, it could be just a wee pitch.

It might be, but that se that'd be the fun cold tires.

You know, George would be really complaining.

They Yeah, so you know, why not mix it up a little bit.

But yeah, this track, it tries hard to produce, but the good news is the best.

The best track for the finale has always been Australia.

Yeah, that was very best.

That was That was one, and then it was Brazil for the right Brazil.

Yeah, you know that was always kind of exciting.

But you know, what are you gonna do?

I you know, I don't run F one.

Maybe I should.

No, they don't.

They don't even pick up UPOL No.

I know, it's isn't that weird?

Yeah?

Yeah, you know it's calling stuff now.

The other day and he was like and you know he hit it, you know, canceled because it went immediately to voicemail.

So yeah, let's talk about the season ending race and cover what we think about the season ending race.

Uh, We're going to start, as we always do, right at the very sharp end of the of the grid.

He is getting the hang of this ball.

We're going to talk about Max Bull, Max Bull.

Yeah, I might as well just name the team Max Bull.

Max Bull.

It is a new flavor, Max Bull.

It's like twice the caffeine maybe or twice the touring.

Yeah right, a little heat, right, So you got that going, Let's start with Red Bull.

We'll start at the right top, heading into the final or the finale.

Red Bull trailed McLaren in the driver's title, and so strategy was really mainly the talking point and sending this weekend.

You know what could Red Bull do?

You know, strategy wise, how could they use Yuki who had qualified top ten?

Was that a possibility most people?

You know, a natural knock on was really kind of as we saw Lewis did with Nico a few years ago.

You know, back will he back Lando and McLaren an oscar, back up into traffic.

Let everybody have a good bite at him.

You know what will Max do?

We all know he's this evil genius is rumored on socials and this is all prior to us finding out that helmet mark Mark was leaving.

But anyway, ver Stopping finished first in the race, won the race.

A fantastic drive, fantastic qualifying really, Verstopping made a clean start, stretch, his legs out, controlled the race, did the one stop strategy.

His pace was really you know great.

They you know, Red Bull could have considered that second stop for a little gamemanship, but they ended up choosing to secure the dominant win, capped that whole late season charge.

And you know, what a turnaround it was.

Right as as noted, the top three drivers, all three of them had ups this year and downs this year.

You know, they had peaks and valleys, right, and it's all about peaking at the right time, which Orlando and Max did, and certainly Max in that what he won six of the last nine Grand Prix.

What a turnaround that team did.

They all should be very very proud.

And Max said that over the radio.

I'm not disappointed.

I mean what we did to turn everything around was amazing.

I'm happy.

Yeah, yeah, so he was.

He was, you know, very magnanimous to Lando and and uh, he was fine.

It was unlucky to do a temper table even though you know, oh, there isn't a fiber in his body that's happy with losing the championship.

That's not how he's wired.

But he was, he was very magnanimous in congratulating that and congratulating the team and et cetera.

But a terrific race for Max.

Yeah, I mean, I know you say deep dip some valleys.

I don't think the dip or valley for Max was Max.

It was always the fall, yeah, right, I think with the other two they had dip some valleys in their performance and choices.

I mean, I can't fault Max for the whole season.

Really we did.

And the you know, the team rallied around and gave him a car that you could fight with, absolutely, and he made the most of it.

So it was it was an amazing comeback, amazing company.

Yeah, it really was.

In a in a championship that's so tight even through the field, right, so you can make a two tenth game.

But you know, the team did a great job and Max just made the most of it.

And yeah, no one's going to forget my get his charge to give himself a shot win championship.

Getting into second was astounding.

Yeah, really yeah it was.

It was, Yeah, no doubt about it.

And it was a great race.

I thought he managed everything really well and you know, even when pressured by Oscar a little bit, you know, still had things in hand.

When when you kind of felt like maybe that McLaren on hards was a little quicker, but he had enough gap at that point, didn't really seem to be bothered too much at that point.

Interesting though, the one element I guess this of this race pole is you and I were texting during the time, and I think a lot of people were thinking that wants the McLaren's box Lando boxed again and the McLaren's box, that Max had a twenty four second gap, and that surely he would box again, put on softer tires and see if he couldn't, you know, do a little games and ship back the McLaren's up get Lando in trouble.

On one side of that, Poul, I'm thinking, you know, the reality of that probably is he could have.

But if he'd ha got him bunched up and Leclair got by Lando, more than likely McLaren would have radio at Oscar had him falled back a couple positions, and Lanta would have been on the podium irrespective right, And George was clearly not a threat at that point, so you could say, on one hand it probably wouldn't have mattered.

McLaren would have swapped him.

George wasn't a threat.

But wouldn't you just roll the dice anyway just to even put McLaren in the position of having to radio order Oscar to drop back a place or two get Lando up there.

Do you know anything can happen in those scenarios?

Oscar could say No, I don't think he would have, but you know what I'm saying, at least creates a chaos.

No, I was expecting it.

Yeah, with that gap, you know, you put him on soft tires.

He can back those guys up, even if if someone squeaks by him somehow while he's trying to back you up.

He's got so much more performance in the car with the soft tires and that he could get back by.

It's just like how far do you push the limit?

And I think other years, I'm pretty sure he would have been doing this, But we've discussed it in you know, before the podcast.

It's like, it's how these guys get along.

I'm not sure everyone is willing to do everything and not worry about what anyone thinks and sacrifice relationships and friendships and everything down the grid and alienate everyone down the grid.

Nobody wanted to go full multi twenty one.

Now there was a there was a there was another bullet left in the gun, and you know, they could have backed it up, could have you know, obviously we're expecting could Max have backed him up.

At the beginning, that became a bit tenuous because Oscar was on hards so he was on a different split strategy, so that had to keep Max honest and have to keep pushing.

Then.

But once that all kind of planned out and they made that at that other stop, Max did have a free stop while still should have been gaining the lead.

And if you really, really, you know, want to push everything, you'd back everybody up.

And who knows what would have happened.

I mean, I know you say that McLaren would have said, no Lando.

You know, if Charles got by Norris, let's say we you know, Oscar, we win, need you fall back to let Norris get p three.

But Oscar, what's he thinking?

Maybe he could get by Max and then he would win the race, and then who knows what's happening behind him with Lando.

I'm not so sure that's a guarantee that Oscar would have given up that spot, right And as you said, it's like if you don't try it, you don't know what's going to happen.

You unexpected can absolutely happen.

It has happened a lot of times in the season already, so I don't I don't think they used every every bullet in the gun there, and they decided just to kind of let the season roll out and they're hoping obviously that something Charles could catch Lando, but they would just kind of let it play out as it was, which is, as said, a bit of a difference.

If it was back in the Hamilton Max Fighting for Championship days, I think it would have been it would have played out a little bit different.

Yeah, even h Even Oscar asked Max whether they're waiting on land or come to the cool down room.

He so that he didn't want to back everybody up and Max and that much to say about that.

Even Oscar was like, yeah, yeah, I thought you would have you know.

Yeah, it was kind of interesting.

Was open probably, yeah, probably was something he didn't have anything at that point.

Yeah, he had to lose, right, Yeah, So I found that strange.

Brilliant race by Max.

I'm not taking Indian away from it.

It was a brilliant season, brilliant comeback, brilliant race, I just surprised that Red Bull didn't at least throw everything in the kitchen at him, right, A little strange.

I mean they threw Yuki so note at him.

They didn't even give him direction and said, go you could.

Go lemme alone.

I know what I'm gonna do.

I'm going to run him off the road.

WHOA, Okay, that's a that's a Nascar Yuki, not f one.

But anyway, you down fourteenth this final Red Bulls outing.

So what can we say from Yuki?

Good bye, good luck and good ridden.

Yeah, maybe he and he in helmet could spend a little quality of time together.

He is going to remain as driver.

But in his final outing as maxis teammates and started on the hard tires for Max tried to delay land On Norris tried to run him off track and after the mcclearen drivers early stopped, but he forced him wide, picked up a five second penalty that dropped him down, eventually finishing outside of the point.

So it wasn't really a factor in helping.

That was an interesting incident.

I'm not fully buying into the penalties.

Not give you think Lando should have been hammered?

Huh?

I think you should add a penalty.

I don't think.

I mean, I think Yuki there they were, they gave him a penalty.

I mean it was it was definitely biased on the championship implications and who was racing against two in which team was driving.

Nobody wanted to go Michael on this Paul nobody.

They didn't know.

They didn't want that.

But and so and so.

If you look at as they're supposed to look at it, cold situation, take all the we don't know who's winning the championship, we don't know who's driving this car.

You just look at the incidant, cold, hard thought pattern you would have to have given him.

I mean the penalty they gave Yuki was apparentty.

They hadn't really enforced.

I can see him getting a penalty though, because he definitely moved over enough that Lando had to move off the track.

But there's no people have done that all year long.

And if you still go off the track and you make that pass, it's still a penalty.

And then you know, I heard people say, oh, well he had the momentum.

Ah yeah, it wasn't like he was free wheeling down a hill without brakes.

I mean, you can either you can load that momentum, but you can lift off the gas.

That slows the momentum pretty big in a Formula one car, and so I think they kind of let that go.

You know, people argue right or wrong, but I think it was an absolute penalty because you do not pass offline, whether the person forced you off or not.

And so we've seen it a lot, right, We've maxis forwarded it.

You know, Oh, we forced me off into the gyp and he took the lead.

Well, that doesn't justify the pass.

You have to don't take the bait.

You have to back off the gas a little bit and allow the penalty to ensue.

And maybe that was Yuki's plan.

Yeah, wait, maybe that was Red Bulls plan, is to force force Norris into a mistake.

But but it's a really bad place to try and hold somebody up on the straight It's it's so obvious, all the eyes are on.

It could have done it in this corners, in the Mickey Mouse bits around the hotel and.

The Mickey Mouse section, just over slow, over slow, over slow.

That's way more.

Powerful than just trying to jink around and serpentine down down the straight away.

So I think it was a misplaced.

Desire or execution there, I said, coming down the straight, everyone can see what the hell is going on, but they you definitely can't be penalized for going too slow in a corner, you know, there's no ruling on that, so but there definitely is a ruling for going off off the off the tracks.

So yeah, so I think it was a penalty, but they let it go.

You know, you can have your opinion whether that's right or wrong.

Tampion implications with a little skullduggery on the on Yuki side, you know, yeah, absolutely, But does that give you the right to break the rules, whether you think the rules right or not.

Yeah, anyway, I would say it's a penalty, Okay, I say no, But no, And why do you say no?

Uh?

Because I don't want to Michael Massey this damn thing, Paul.

Yeah, well yeah, but that's what I'm saying.

It's it's like just because of the implicate it's the implications, doesn't mean you can not be right.

Yeah, I don't know.

You know, I felt like it was barginal.

It w wasn't like he you know, went off Cuttash Cane drove through it or anything like that.

I think he ran him wide, ran over.

You know, he had a left wheel in the grass, the right ones just you know, that far off the line trying to get around.

He's pretty you know whether Yeah, I agree with you on the momentum thing.

I think he was just committed to getting around, knew he had to get around quick, and he was trying to make that move.

But and you know, I think all's fair in love and war and Yuki.

But I think at the end of the day, I don't know, it was pretty tough because once he got buy then how do you remedy that?

You say, Okay, well, you know, is it a five second I guess you could have given a five second penalty or seated.

The position back to Yuki.

Yeah, which would have, like you said, had a dire impact on that.

Would if I was in the steward's office, I would hate to have to give that power.

Yeah.

Yeah, I'm not saying.

I'm not saying I would have strung him up and that was an outrageous thing to do.

I would have hated to do it, but that's how the rule is written.

Yeah, well, there you go.

So let me let us know what you guys think.

You think it's a penalty.

I'll tell you what.

Laura Meckey said, he thanked Yuki for his team play so cold, and I said, Rebel could not have done anything more.

Really, it's about the only help he could give Red Bull is being a freaking jam car.

I was actually surprising qualifying that they didn't let him actually go for a lap.

They basically used him as a tone pick for a toe for both of Max's laps.

So I was kind of surprised because if he had been able to call a maybe he could have done something else.

But history probably shows you he's not really much in the race.

Yeah, at this part of the season, with the announcement that he doesn't have a ride, could could he be any more utilitarian to the team at that point?

I mean, you know, if they asked him to park in the middle of the turn, he probably.

Would have, you know, just probably whatever at this point.

But yeah, tough tough race, a tough season, and a tough F one career for Uki, So there you go.

Yeah, and they really need, you know, they really needed that second call to be competitive.

Would done Would Liam Lawson have done any worse?

Absolutely No, I don't think so.

I mean the you know, they made that switch and they just had to way too early.

You know, they've done it so many times, they've never really improved matter.

And it's like Jack doing they made that switch way too early, way too Yeah.

Yeah, all that stuff, but we'll get into that on the season review.

Right yeah, all right.

Let's talk about Uh, shall we talk about McLaren.

Let's do I think we should Jesus shouldn't we?

Okay?

So McLaren, uh, Oscar Piastre P two and Lando nors P three.

McLaren arrived at the points cushion twelve points, opted for the split strategy, and my thinking that caught Red Bull a little off guard, and even Lauren macke's admitted to that later after the race.

Let's start with Oscar.

Interesting here he started on the hard tires.

Yeah, he passed Norris on lap one, forced for stopping to push his mediums a little bit through most of the first stent.

I believe that was always the plan.

Uh.

He stayed out long on his first stint and then read joined ahead of his teammate after his pit stop.

Uh.

He was unable to make to match Red Bull's pace at that point, and he settled for a second, ensuring that McLaren had you know, one two, you know, had second place and then the driver championship.

Yeah, I feel like they they did that.

They planned all of that out.

I thought it was funny when he came back out and says, Okay, so what are we gonna do with Max?

Yeah, you're gonna not a second and a half a lap?

Wait, not much?

Yeah, come on, go get him Oscar, you can do it, buddy.

They kept him out too long.

You got to give him enough time to make use of the tie to make the difference.

Absolutely, the absolutely I think old credit to McLaren.

They nailed the strategy on this one.

The split strategy Oscar on Hard's galvanized.

The situation made it very difficult for Red Bull to react or or have the flexibility to do so.

It gave McLaren the most flexibility in their race strategy.

They ended up running him really long, but I think they they did that immediately swapped him, had Oscar trying to push Max hard to get that graining going.

I think probably in their mind's eye they were hoping they could finish one two Oscar win in the race, Lando the championship I think that's probably how they wanted.

But Max was super fast after that second, after that stop, I.

Mean, he was flying.

So I don't know that then as the as the realization as we look we're not going to get the win here at this point, leave him out long and then bring him back in to to in front of Lando, just provide buffer if we need to swap or something like that.

And they kind of let maximum that race.

But but you know, no matter how you measure, I just think it was a great strategy.

I think they read the tea leaves on that Oscar did a great job, you know, look good.

The entire race, didn't put a foot wrong, you know, was quick pretty much.

You know, a lot of people talking about Papaya rules and all that, and I think I think Oscar pretty much resigned himself before the race started that this is kind of where it is and barring some craziness or whatever, this is kind of where we are.

And I think he drove a good race on an alternate strategy.

And it wasn't a strategy.

I've seen some people well, you screwed Oscar.

You put him on hard tires.

The hard tires were the preferred tire.

The hard tires operated incredibly well around this track, so that wasn't a liability for Oscar.

I think that that that plan gave Oscar the most flexibility.

But unfortunately for him, Lando, you know, wasn't a million miles away and Max was leading, and so it just unfolded the way it did.

But I think he drove a great race, great strategy.

Yeah though, I think the strategy worked out, but good in two ways.

One to kind of new to Max a little bit.

Also to put the race in both drivers hands and give them I mean they gave They basically gave a strategy that gave Oscar a chance.

They did right, They said, okay, you'll put you in hards.

You know, we'll let Lando lake Land will let you go and go attack Max.

And that's all he can ask for is a chance to attack for the for the race win.

As you said he can you know, he can't affect everything behind him.

All he can do is try and win the race.

And whatever happens behind him happens, right, Especially you're not going to do anything to your teammates.

So and with with Lando, the team was conservative because they just knew, they knew, we just had to finish third, and so I think it played great.

It gave both their driver's motivation to to just throw it out there.

It wasn't it wasn't like but after like I think once they really pushed Oscar to go along.

I think at that point they were like, well, you know, there's only so far we can go with giving Oscar the chance, and now we're just going to use all skitz to keep Lando in play and and and you know, give him that podium spot.

Yeah, you know, without any threat.

Yeah right, yeah, yeah, yeah, I totally agree with you.

And to that point, you know, kudos I thought.

You know, at the end of the season, either Zach and Andres have a lot of egg on their face over Papyr rules that they wouldn't and you know they really don't.

So kudos to Zach and Andrea.

You know, I think I think there were some rocky moments, but I think they ended up managing it to the end.

A lot of the reason they probably managed it to the end required a lot on the compliance of both drivers, and they did.

They did comply, So kudos to them.

Let's talk about Lando finish in P three.

As you mentioned, that's all he had to do to win the win the championship with ever win the title.

Uh, he was nursing his meetings and open and opening lap Norris.

Uh, you know, really mirrored.

Charles Leclair's two stop strategy.

He was the entire race that was really his target.

It wasn't Max right and what an oscar.

It was absolutely mirroring and covering a very fast charl Leclair and a Ferrari.

He recovered from that brief drop in traffic and clinched his third place which he needed to become the champion.

An absolute landmark moment for McLaren.

Hasn't happened in Drivers' Championship since two thousand and eight.

And I think, as guy said, there's what thirty five different drivers have won the FN World Championship in Paul.

Yeah, slightly over thirty percent of those thirty five drivers are all British drivers.

So I don't know if it's in the water.

I think it may be like a secret underground factory and slough where you guys make these drivers.

I don't know what it is, but what a great, great something it is.

What a great thing, you know.

Look, I know it's hard to move on from Lewis Hamilton seriously, seven time champion.

You know, he's a magnetic person.

I get it.

And the British fans embraced him and loved him, and it's hard to move on from that, and I fully understand, but you only had to wait for short seasons to get a British champion bring the trophy back home to the Motherland.

And Lando did it in his own style.

You know, he went punting everybody off the race.

He was in bad mouthing, you know, he did it.

He's a quirky character and he did it in his own way and I think it was I think it was great.

And Paul of the top three, he had to work absolutely the hardest of anyone during this race.

He came out in traffic and he had to pass Antonelli signs Stroll and Loss, and I know everybody passed Stroll and Lawson.

But anything can happen.

And look at the names I'm talking about.

Rookie Antonelli's signs.

He can get a little, he can get his elbows out.

He's been known to stroll.

You don't know what's going to go on there.

And loss, and I mean that's his middle name is you know, punt punt him off.

You know, he's he's you know, he got a penalty for erradic driving, so you never know what's gonna happen, and you've got to be nervous all that pressure trying to and then he had to get around Yuki who was dive bombing him off the track.

So Lando didn't cruise to third, and just you know, phone this in, folks.

He worked his butt off to get up to third.

Had any of those not worked, he probably wouldn't be the champion.

Yeah, he did, and I think his personality kind of helps that charge all.

So you know, he doesn't make many enemies on pit lane, right, And you know, buddies of science and all this kind of stuff.

I mean, there's no doubt people like Charles and everyone and science and they're trying to get the maximum for the team.

That's their job, yep.

But they're not going to needlessly interact with a guy running for his world championship when they know that's not the fight they're in.

And I think, well, two of them are respects and the friendships right of that, two of them are red bulls though right lost in a race bull.

Right, that's true.

Yeah, yeah, Lasson's a bit.

Yeah, you could probably turn him pretty quick and get get make some agro out there.

But I think he was unsuspect, unsuspecting as he was every time.

He was so focused on stroll.

They're waving everyone by.

But yeah, yeah, true, true.

But I think you know, it is a different era in form of one where there's not so much bitter rivalries and basically you know, hatred between teams and drivers.

They do seem to get along.

They they obviously fight hard winter out there, but they don't get go above and beyond and over the limit in that respect.

So it's it's it's it's good.

And I think you know, when you're a driver, as I said, like before, when Max he makes moves on the track in practice, you know, to make people understand what he's going to do when he comes up behind you, and people not necessarily respect it, but they understand what he's going to do and they maybe race him a little bit different.

The same thing works.

If you respect the other driver and they play nice with you, you'll play nice with them when it comes to these crucial situations.

So I think you know he had to earn it.

Absolutely, They don't give it to you.

But I think the mutual respect was pretty evident in this race.

Yeah, I think so too.

And after the race man in the in the media pen, Lando just went on a long, you know, soliloquy about Oscar and just wax poetic about what an honor it was to race with him, how he's only been in three years.

But Lando learned a tremendous amount from Oscar.

You know, there's a lot of platitudes that Oscar had to say.

I mean that Lando had to say about Oscar incredibly, a lot of praise for Oscar.

So yeah, it was nice.

I mean, yeah, you could say, well, you know when he Oscar get upset, so everybody's you know, giving him making over him because he didn't win and all that.

But you know, I.

Don't think it's in Lando's nature to blow smoke up anyone skirt.

I think he's he's I think he genuinely means it.

So a great champion, a worthy champion.

I think there's a lot of fans out there that were kind of like anyone, but Max, you know, you know, fair enough, Oh.

This is a dom and as it was so.

Boring, and you know, Schuemarcher won five titles in a row.

But yeah, I think I think Lando absolutely worthy champion.

You know a lot of people we're talking about well Oscar and Papy rules and all that, but you know, on the other side of it, maybe I'm being too practical about it, but the reality is, you know, Lando was kind of hot property and he could have went to other teams, and I'm sure people were after him, and he chose to stay at McLaren.

And when he was young and he first was joined as.

A reserve or whatever it was, there was that interview.

With him saying, you know, well, my goal is to to get McLaren back to winning ways, and hopefully I'll be part of that.

You know, he has been all in for McLaren, he really has, and he's never waivered, and not that Oscar hasn't either, but he's gone on nine years of unyielding loyalty to that team.

And if I'm Zach, I'm thinking, you know what, this kid, he deserves it.

You know, he was with us when you know, Fernando wasn't.

He was with us when Carlos was.

He was with us when Danny Rick wasn't, you know, and I don't mean that as a pejorative against those drivers.

I'm just saying he hung in there, and he fought the good fight.

And now eureupsa rewards and I say, good on McLaren, Good on all the men and women that work their tails off, and Lando deserves it.

Yeah.

It was close though, as the fly rules, I mean, one decision here all there, in this whole season, it came down to two points, right, any one decision or not could have switched it around very very easily.

Yeah, a lot of people immediately were jumping on you know, el see that's two points Max lost by and if he hadn't banged Wills with uh uh, which George Russell, you know, because of the red mist, you know, and got that penalty, he'd had it.

And it's kind of like, okay, well that's one instance, but what about Hungary?

What about Austria?

You know when yeah, I mean every drive you can dissect so many, I mean, we do it in him.

So if it wasn't for Laguna's sake, we would have won the championship.

But you know, it happened and we did it, and you and that's the result you get, So.

It is it is, and and it just brings to mind Paul that it is just a reminder that it's not just you know, him banging wheels of George and Spend.

It's every single point counts, and it's it.

Used to be.

We get kind of getting season, you know, get our sea legs, the other car, and then mid season we'll start to put the hammer down and man, it is it is all systems go for the first race.

Every session.

You have got to be there, you know, and it's every point matters, and so leaving points on the table at at Zanbort, leaving points on the table in Canada for Lando, all of that.

Hurts, you know.

Yeah, I just think of the sprint races.

Yeah, I love them, well, I hate them that with the championships closed as it was, they that was a crucial you know.

Yeah, it's a great point.

You know, that's a whole points generating element over there.

Yeah, that's kind of new ish, right, and you know you got to take those serious.

Now, so yeah you do.

Yeah, it was interesting.

Let's see, Ferrari began the weekend chasing, chasing really a distant constructor's target, trying to to claw their way back up.

But they looked kind of out the lunch.

For most of the practice sessions they were really struggling.

Yeah, you're right, But then the race kind of something a little different.

You know, their race pace was quite a bit different than what we were seeing in practice.

Charles Leclaire Leclair finning fourth, Lewis and Hamilton clong Is his way all the way back up to eighth from sixteenth.

We'll start with Charles.

He jumped George at the start and then really pressured Norris throughout the opening stent.

He opted for that aggressive two stop strategy that McLaren had to cover that kept everybody on their toes.

But you know, he had to go at him in that second stint and it just at that point kind of ran out of tires and fell back and settled for fourth.

But there for a little while he was making things a little uncomfortable for McLaren.

Yeah, definitely the first ten laps of every stint on the new tire, Yeah, he was, you.

Know, able to attack Orlando.

But off of those ten laps the pace definitely fell off, and obviously he fell like five six seconds a drift by the end of the race.

In the end, but yeah, quite a turnaround for Ferrari.

It looks hopeless for him, but I think charles qualifying pace kind of showed you that he had the card potential.

Yeah.

Obviously Lewis was out early, really.

Early, crazyly early, yeah, Q one and in qualifying, and so Charles, I think that kind of gave him some hope.

And I think that pace that he showed in qualifying wasn't a single that place.

It maybe was half a stint pace that the Ferrari was able to really be competitive, but ultimately over a long race distance and long stint, it would just kind of fall off in the end.

Yeah.

Yeah, And I think the two stop worked pretty well for Lewis, you know, in retrospect, you know, watching that fold, he started down sixteenth on safts, ducked in early, got off those safts, then he climbed through the midfield and that two stop strategy finishing an eighth.

I kind of thought for a moment he was going to really kind of get up there and hassle seventh, possibly six, but he seemed to kind of stall out right there.

He said that the strategy worked well.

Lamented the season, of course, but you know, but a good recovery drive from Lewis.

Nonetheless.

No, it was actually a really good run and a good strategy from Ferrari to actually give him a chance to do that.

As we always say, it's you have to have a good strategy, but you have to have execution, and Lewis definitely did that.

Yeah, So I was.

I was actually really impressed by his run.

Yeah, considering where he came from, I thought it was really good actually, and it didn't look great at the beginning but pitted early, But yeah, he did.

He did the work and got the points and he.

Was attacking knock On, Yeah, but then couldn't get by him for some reason.

Obviously the TV wasn't really focused on that battle, so ye tell what was going on there?

Yeah, I thought, you know, either way, you know, Lewis looked very racy out there, like Charles did.

And if that was the case, I didn't really get to see much of it.

That means that Okon did a real yeoman's job holding off Lewis.

The only clip I saw is he got really close to oor cone and then got in dirty air and lost the car a little bit, and maybe that just took took the edge off.

Yeah, may have may have Mercedes.

Mercedes really focused, you know at this point beating Ferrari uh for then the constructors, but you know, they they did, like a lot of teams kind of seemed to kind of struggle getting on top of the tire management throughout the weekend.

Kind of curious how that was going to happen going into the race or the start of George.

He finished in fifth, a lot of wheels spent off the start bowl, which wasn't really good and kind of it's not very characteristic of George, if I'm honest.

Isn't that the second Yeah, yeah, I'm wondering if they're they're struggling with you know, either the tire compound and the clutch bite points and yeah, I'm not quite sure what's going on there because it's not typically indicative of George.

But anyway, Yeah, he dropped behind Leclair and Fernandolns at the start, so we had a lot to make up.

He tried an early undercut but really just didn't have the pace of the front runners and wasn't a real threat.

As I mentioned earlier, you know, which probably had a role to play and whether Red bull Box laid or you know, McLaren's feelings about it.

I don't think George was ever a threat.

I think it was always a clear but it was enough secure Pecha in the Construction Championship for Mercedes Toto was you know, pretty negative about the race and that kind of thing, and fair enough, you know, it's his team, but look they finished second in the Constructors and and that's millions and tens of millions of dollars, So yeah, it was a good It was a good result for George nonetheless, but I think he had a handful all weekend.

Yeah, it was.

It was a ho hum race for them, Yeah, really, I mean kind of petering out at the end of the season.

Did I don't know what the struggles were at the stop.

But we stopped development.

He didn't seem to have pace to be able to recover either for a bad stop and had some Ellie didn't really have a lot to do, No, had had lot to play with to make a big comeback either.

But for them to come second in the Constructors I think was overachieving.

Oh by far, and largely down to George.

Yeah, du it's George and to Yuki, so they should give you Ki, you know, some some big Pois Christmas present because the Red Bull ultimately was the second best car on the grid and I but but you know they they didn't do it and Mercedes, Yeah got the second constructions and that that's that's I said.

I think that's above what was probably expected.

Yeah, at the beginning of the season for them.

Yeah, yeah, it was Keemi down fifteenth, opted to start on the hard tire, struggled with car balance, couldn't recover into the points, spent most of the race in a DRS train towards the back.

It's a shame because had he scored a few points, Paul, he'd have beaten Lewis to p six in the driver's title.

So yeah, that would have been That would have been great.

Face would be great for him.

He's he have a little up and down, but I think the call just wasn't there, and so where he started he just couldn't didn't have it, didn't didn't have an advantage of the other calls, so he just had to kind of sit around the blessed Drestra.

Yeah, I know, he was aston Martin team targeted solid points.

They needed it, folks, because they were going head to head with has Right very close battle the constructors Fernando, Alonzo and six Lance and tenth.

Starting off with Alonzo, made a good start, overtook Russell and then you know, I was a little surprised.

He put a lot of pressure on Leclaire too.

He kept the midfield at Bay claimed sixth, which was good enough to secure seventh in the in the in the driver standing for him or no?

Was he top ten seventh constructors?

I guess constructions.

Yeah, yeah, so actually a good race for Fernando all things considered, finishing up in six good points, secured seventh.

Again, that's tens of bit millions of dollars had they lost spot to has So a good result for him.

Yeah, No, it's they've had a crazy season.

But yeah, he was definitely on the upside.

He'd have liked to had this car at every race this year at least to be able to fight people.

Right, Yeah, good start, he was definitely attacking the clock at the beginning.

That gradually fizzled out, but to still get that good result was very important, as we know, as you say, millions of dollars between constructors, you know, finishes so really important to that team, especially since they had kind of written off their car for progression a long long time ago, so I guess they're still engineering pretty good down there to try and get everything they could out of it.

Yeah.

I agree, Lance, he ran that long first stint on hearts and then overtook several cars and mediums, had some good passing and they're getting back up into the point.

Penalty for changing direction too many times dropped him down to ple and then olie Berman got a penalty and that promoted him back into tenth.

So it's a dual points finished for the team and that capped Hoss from stealing p seven in the Constructors So not not a horrible race, not a fantastic race, but not a horrible one.

Yep.

I mean Lances hasn't seen the points much this year, so.

Well nor yeah.

Come on, yeah, everybody else is in a different category, Paul.

Yeah, So for him again into points is good, good for the team.

Yeah.

And that said, he hasn't been.

A big support for Alonso or the team for points, so it's a decent way to finish.

Hopefully they come out with this magic coffin next year where he'll we'll really get to see something.

Okay, yes, okay, yes, I can hear you, Clem Fandango, I can hear you pull all right, huss uh.

They were really targeting Piece seven constructors.

It's a shame, you know, I like, I like as Mart a lot in the program of Fernando obviously and all that, so I don't you know, I'm glad they got P seven, but I was really hoping that Has could pull that off, get the cars and there you know, they needed both cars and the points, and it's a shame.

Okon finished seventh pole qualified inside the top ten.

Great weekend for Esteban.

You know, he's been down a little bit.

You know, Ali's been, you know, really shining like a bright star, and Esmend's you know, kind of been put out to back Pasture lately, and he really fought hard to keep Alonso back, kept him honest throughout.

Also did a great job of holding Hamilton off for for P seven and that's anyone will tell you that's not easy.

It's his best result since Monaco, and wow, yeah, I know, I know, but because Olie wasn't in the points, it wasn't enough to beat Aston Martin in the standings.

But you can't blame Astemon.

I think he had a really good race.

Yeah, no, it did.

Yeah, competitive race.

It's I can't believe it's been some Monaco because you know, we've seen the Hoss being very competitive, but it's been in another driver's hands, so we kind of used to him fighting for the top ten.

But I guess a Steban's as you say, he's been kind of in the background there for a while.

So good for him to have a good, good race.

Yeah, not like who was the previous driver?

Goodiers who was who was the previous driver?

You and I were in Austin.

He was just standing there by myself at that.

Oh yeah, it has another rest of all.

Yeah, he wasn't in the background like that Astevon, but.

Looming looming uncomfortably so lurking, like making passers by a little nervous, like the clown and the gutter uh.

So Oli Bearman twelfth.

Barman hovered on the friends of the points, but received five second penalty from moving too many times in his battle with Stroll.

The penalty dropped him out of the top ten.

And it's a shame because they were close to beating aston Mart for p.

Seven.

It's unfortunate that they didn't get there.

So anyway, but but I think I think Ali was driving well you know, it's probably on him weaving too much and it's unfortunate.

Yeah, we'll have to see how this weaving penalty because that's kind of yeah, just kind of came up at the lost race, and only I think because the UK penalty kind of started it.

And they're like, well.

Other people, and yeah, we're gonna be cool with a pents down, are you?

Everyone gets a penalty kind of like Oprah.

You know, you get a call, you get a penalty, you get a penalty, you get a penalty.

Are you usingesting that the stewards obfuscated their error by throwing out multiple weaving penalties.

Yes, yes I do.

I love him fall right for the juggular.

I like it.

You're like a Jack Russell terrier where there is cool, cold, sad day Saturday.

The last race for Salva.

Yeah, I know he was, and I know you and I rate Peter Salber very highly.

Absolutely, Peter was just had an astounding career.

Yes, what a legend Peter is.

Is so glad to see him there.

That was great last race before coming OUTI so they wanted a strong fair, well they got one I think Nico, Holkenberg and p nine started eighteenth on softime?

Was it eighteenth or nineteenth?

Back there somewhere I think Lewis was Lewis don't get me, you know, I'm not a numbers guy man.

Yeah, details details, who needs them?

I just want to talk about Nico.

So anyway, pitted early carved through the feet old game positions after Storlespinalle.

He finished ninth, scoring valuable points as his farewell drive for Salver and as hello drive to Audi.

Right, so, uh uh, you know, Peter's there.

Great to see sal getting the points.

You know, the car has not been the great car, and it was a great way to say goodbye to Salur, I think in the end, and and that's exactly what Holkenberg said.

Uh, Borleto finished in eleventh, But I think, uh, you know, ninth place, good result and kind of caps a nice podium this year for Nico.

You know, maybe it wasn't a banner year for him, but I think all in all is a good.

Good race for him.

Yeah.

I think as far as they can show both drive, they've at least put calls out that have given both drivers a chance to shine at some point and this this was a good, good run for him.

He had really a similar race to Hamilton.

He did, yeah, back, similar strategy, so, I mean, you know it was it was a heck of a drive and getting the points is great for that team.

Doesn't really affect where they are in the standing.

No, but it's a good point, Paul, because he finished it had same strategy as Hamilton, started the back like Hamilton to finished right behind him.

Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Yeah, so very very powerful, very good.

We know that guy can do the job.

Yeah, no doubt about it.

Gabby ran on the top ten early on, struggling with bouncing.

After his fit stop faded to eleventh.

He admitted they didn't maximize the car and was a little disappointed that he missed out on the points.

But but again, you know it's a P eleven for seriously think about it, P eleven for for sober really Yeah.

Yeah, before we were like which one which one of them is going to finish last?

Which one's going to be last?

Right?

Yeah?

So yeah, good race for Soalbern, A great way to say goodbye to the name foremost said, very sad we got williams Uh fifth in the championship.

They had that locked up heading in there, trying to do the best they can for the race.

Coming off a couple of good results for Carlos, signs really kind of hitting us strike here late in the season.

He finished thirteenth, had that one stop strategy left him stuck in the DRS train, though Paul could do little more than bring the car home in thirteen, just pace wasn't quite there, you know.

Here he had great results in the last race, and you know, I'm sure he was hoping to nip into the points for him, but not a bad race for him.

All things considered, it wasn't great.

Yeah, it's not great.

I mean, considering whether they're behind the hours.

Past few races, I mean, it's it wasn't great for Williams at all.

Really well, I'm trying to be nice.

You are you are?

It was a great season for him, but it wasn't a great race.

I'm surprised.

I would have thought this track would have suited them better, but it just didn't.

They just kind of fizzled out there, which is not something to remember the season by, hopefully, But they got lots of other high points that they can't take with him.

Right Alex hell.

You know, it took a little incoming for me saying that the shines kind of rubbed off on Alex the last handful of races and everybody.

They got upset.

But I'm I'm serious, you know, I'm sticking with it.

He started near the back on sauce, opted for the two stop strategy, had a five second penalty for speeding the pit lane.

Wouldn't not necessarily a penalty you'd think Alex would do U.

I said, it was a tricky race and he was stuck without a tire advantage, and I don't know, Carlos is coming on song while Alex is really struggling of late.

Yeah, I mean, obviously they both struggled in this race, but he definitely didn't didn't make any inroads onto Callis's pace.

Yeah, he didn't.

It's unfortunate.

Uh, you know, I think there's a simple solution.

They just do better, Alex.

Easy to say, yeah, just try faster.

Yeah yeah, it's easy just to go to try.

I think that's all it takes.

Let's break more throttle, Yeah, just more effort.

Yeah, there you go.

So well, everyone needs that's it.

Racing bules ined race defending six in the constructors.

Isaac hadger piece seventeen started inside the points, and I was a little curious why he fell back after his cat stop, and I'm quite sure what happened there, really lacked the pieces to recover.

Nonetheless, you know, it was a great journey for him to, you know, to get back up to seventeen secure piece six.

Overall the team.

He's going to be Maxi's teammate next next year.

We'll talk about that in another podcast.

But I think I know we've lost and he had the penalty and all that, but I'm not I'm just not quite sure what happened to Isaac and only had a lot of graining or what was going on there.

Yeah, I don't know.

It was if they fell off a cliff, that's for sure.

I mean we used to this team and drive us to be right there fighting for the points every weekend, and they initially, yes, looked like it, but then just disappeared down the time sheets, and yeah, I've got no explanation for it.

Yeah, they really did.

Quite I was gonna while you were waxing poetic there, Paul, I was going to try to look up.

Why they there's any explanation for them, Well, whether there is or not.

I mean, but Lawson was fighting with Stroll.

Yeah, obviously Stroll got in the points, but that didn't work out for him.

Well, yeah, penalty.

So that's that's what I was, a little visa cash app.

Here we go, Here we go, Paul, I'm doing this in real time.

Let's see finish.

This is where the magic happens people.

Yeah, it's exactly right.

Tough us seeing tough on Sunday.

We haven't had enough pace the whole weekend to fight for our usual positions, and yesterday it was surprised for me to put the car in P.

Nine.

We started in the points, but we knew it would have been difficult for us to maintain that place.

Looking at the positives and reflecting that.

I don't care about your first season, Isaac.

I really don't.

There you go, that's whoa Well, No, I mean I do, but I'll get into that season review.

That's what I meant, folks, I'll review his glorious first season in a season review.

I don't want to do it.

So I guess, I guess the qualifying was flattening.

That was the fluke.

Yes, so the qualifying was the fluke the race was the reality.

So there's your answer.

See I told you, Liam, did you see the erratic driving?

I didn't.

It just doesn't really care.

I do.

I do care, Isaac it suck.

I do care, Isaac, I do.

Did you see Liam's erratic driving?

I missed it.

I did not see it.

Okay, all right, sorry, Liam, I'd like to be able.

I think they started making erratic driving.

All right, he's moving too many terms and passing.

He's in.

Yeah, he's going left and right, left and right in the chicage people.

We need to move the left.

You need to give sixty percent of the crowd, the drivers a penalty to make Yuki look like he wasn't pegging down.

I agree, But so I didn't.

I didn't see it.

He noted that he was noted for a radick driving, got the penalty that dropped into the back.

Finished behind his teammate though uh.

Our friend Alan Permian, though, was saying, the team worked really hard, but if you think about it, consolidated six in the championship.

That's the only second time that team's finished that high.

Yeah, it's a great result for them, very very impressive year for that.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, just not an impressive, not an impressive.

No impressive weekend for sure, and then we get down to not impressive.

We really talk about not impressive.

Uh, it's a healthy ost.

Gars started at the back, lacked the pace, climb into the points at this point, boy has the track not for not friendly, not friendly.

I'm just telling you, not friendly at all.

Pierre Gasley nineteen had two stopped, beat his teammate despite serving five it's embarrassing a five second track limit penalty and still beat his teammate.

Summed up the race.

It really is not a great race.

To end the season.

End quote.

But there you go.

I agree with Pierre, that was not good.

No no, So they're ditching the GP two engine the next year, so hopefully they they can blossom out of this.

I mean, Ghastly has been done some amazing things that he shouldn't have been doing any call it for didn't really want to be anywhere but the back row, So for sure, he's definitely extracted something out of them that they did have some highlights in the season.

But this kind of pretty much summed up this season, right run trun link at the back, not competitive, not really doing anything special.

So they I agree it definitely got a lot of wishes on the Christmas tree for the.

Just not good enough Paul, it's just not all right.

Let's let's give away some awards show.

We always do that.

First one is really the one we kind of like to talk about is move the race, and we like moving the race.

Yes, seriously, move the race.

I think we had the same thing here, Paul.

We did.

We did.

We had the McLaren's split strategy, did we not.

Yeah, yes, we did.

It was.

Finally it came out perfectly for the strategy in the race and for the drivers.

I think it was as best a call as you can make.

Yeah, totally get to this race.

Yeah, they did a great job the team on that one, for sure.

The next word we really like it's Donkey of the Race.

We'll do it a lot, Yes we will, all right, Paul.

We have the same here.

Agreed on this one.

We were.

We do tell them about it.

The surprise it's the red ball team.

And why do team the one the race?

Yea, why we.

Picked them because they didn't go use every trick in the book to try and win that championship.

They pulled back just a little bit, and I think you know whether that's you know, if you look at the sport and you say, well, it's very sporting of them to do that, to try every little trick and dirty trick perhaps in the book, but if you're trying to win a championship for your driver, I think if you're not throwing everything at it, then you should have a little slightly regret.

It was a very impressive come back in the season, so why why give up now?

Yeah?

Yeah, throw throw the kitchen sink at them.

Go.

Yeah, it was win or lose, right, win the championship.

Well, you don't win the championship if you finished fourth or whatever.

But there there was more tricks out there that they knew but they chose not to use.

I agree.

Uh.

Then finally drive of the Race, Oh yeah, yes, we do.

Drive of the Race, Paul, who'd you get?

I gave it to Max.

I mean, good show, what a weekend, Oh my gosh, qualifying, what a race, did everything everything he could do.

Right, you know, right, unbelieved it was great.

I gave it to Lando.

I think he had a fantastic weekend and he was just cuised to the dirt.

He worked his tail, no coasters, he worked his tail off, get past four cars that could easily gone bad and Yuki Sonoda that could have really bad and manage to get all the way back up there to make that strategy work.

And he deserves it.

He had a hell of a year.

And super happy for Lando.

I really have a great, deserving champion.

Super happy for all the men and women at McLaren's.

Great.

We do we have some We do have some mail bag.

You've got mailail bag?

Yeah.

Mister Drury sent us a course two questions.

It's a two for Paul.

Are you ready for this number one?

Yes, you're on the pitwall at Ferrari Leclaire's twenty two plus seconds ahead of Russell.

Would you have pitted him for sauces in case there was a late safety car?

I thought it was an obvious call, but alas, what say you, Paul?

I mean you could, But I feel like if there was a safety call, wouldn't everyone come into that moment more than likely?

I mean, it's worth with the roll with a role that no everyone's going to.

But if you've got the new tire on, then everyone knows your threat and they'd hold him out.

Take that pit stuff too.

They would neutralize the change, but yeah, why not do it?

Why not?

Yeah, don't roll the dice, right, yeah, And then he said second question or ponderance anyhow, he said, if it weren't for higher rules in Hungary where they forced Piastre to give up a ten second lead on Norris to swamp cars, Max would be world champion.

Again, Let's see what Max wouldn't have banged Wills with George Russell?

He would Oh yeah, yeah, that's true.

Yeah, there's so many and there's something you could have you could have done, chose to do something different that changed everything at the end.

Right, had Max done.

It better in one of those sprint races, yeah, had had Oscar not put it in the wall at Baku?

Yeah?

Right, So there's there's all these different permutations and it just goes to show you, as mister Drury's pointing out, and he's doing so with a I might add, he's saying that every point counts, and he's right, sure, absolutely right, all right, yes, all right, Well that does it for this podcast.

It also does it for this season.

Poll that is the final race.

We have what eighty nine ninety days until the twenty twenty sixth season, and I'm so excited because next year's cars are going to solve all of our problems and no more DRS, and we're going to have all these little extended zones to use whatever they're calling it, mom, they're calling it instead of push to pass.

But yeah, momentary something.

Manual very apprehensive about these new rules.

Well, so we will talk about it.

But yeah, I'm manual osteoporosis.

I can't remember anyway.

Yeah, I'm very I don't trust the DRS is going forever.

Yeah, either, because they threw that at me before.

I hope.

I am one hundred percent r about next year's cars.

But boy, it seems a little sketch to me.

But we'll see, we will see.

Well, you know, Paul, it's not like you're done until March.

We've got lots of things to have fun with in the off season.

That's the great news.

Everybody else rolls up the sidewalks.

We don't where's drive to survive weather in the studio editing, but you know, we don't stop.

We keep talking about Formula one and whatever else we want to talk about.

We've got to do a season review and all, Yeah, we got to do that.

We've got to do something fun around the holidays, either that or New Year's or whatever.

I got to think of something fun.

Everybody always loves when the three of us get on and we talk crap and and so we'll do over the We we promise we'll entertain you.

You still have to drive to work or listen to your workout or wherever you listen to us that we promise we'll keep the content coming.

You know.

It's not like you've got to go back and listen to old episodes.

I mean we can, but anyway, we keep going, and we will be back next with I wouldn't either, yeah, but anyway, we'll we'll go find Grace, we'll be back.

We'll get all of Grace's gloating about McLaren winning the championship.

Wait, and I'm happy to tell you that Paul didn't gloat that he beat Grace and I in our Fantasy GP.

Don't mind telling you.

I sunk like a soone.

I had a geriatric moment forgot to pick a race weekend.

Gone, I was.

A weekend last week that was awesome, awesome souh.

But I've already re upped with my friends over at Fantasy GP, and uh ready for next season.

Man, I'm I'm coming, Paul, I'm gonna, I'm gonna take I'm coming.

Still trying to figure out the two people that were first and second in al championship won the World championship.

Yeah, and are they do they just enter every championship?

Still trying to figure that one out.

Probably?

Probably are they listeners of the podcast?

I don't know the listeners don't.

I would like to know.

I would love to know.

If you won our lead championship, you also have to be the one, the one, the whole global one.

Let us know, reach out to us, let us know, please do if you listen or not, because then we're really big up if you're a listener.

Yeah.

So anyway, all right, Well until we come back next week and talk to Grace and you know, I think there'll be very limited Moto tip talk, but but a lot of McLaren, yes, a lot of McClaren to talk about until that time.

This is on AKA negative Canbra saying.

So long, let's it, man game over, Man, game over.

I feel improve it all.

I don't think.

I don't really want to prove anything.

I thought it an amateur.

I have no idea or no intention of actually kind of love Champion.

It was curious what.

Would lying for, try Monostadin.

So I keep it by the sad tide of Carn